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Nigel Farage Destroys EU Group-Think: "There's A New Berlin Wall... And It's Called The Euro"

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Submitted by Simon Black via Sovereign Man blog,

Standing before the European Parliament yesterday, it took Nigel Farage just four minutes to completely destroy every argument supporting the Eurozone.

A few years back when he spoke at one of our Sovereign Man events in Santiago, he anticipated everything that we’re seeing right now.

Today it’s not nearly as controversial to say that the Eurozone experiment has failed. Anyone aware of what’s happening in Greece should say the same. But very few people really understand why.

As Nigel explains in the video below, right from the start, the system was never intended to help the Greek people.

Greece entering the euro was great for Goldman Sachs. But terrible for Greeks. It chained the country to a system in which it didn’t belong.

And what about all the bailout money that’s been thrown at Greece in the time since?

None of it actually went to the Greek people. It went to bail out the French, German, and Italian banks who own Greek debt.

Sure, social welfare drags an economy underwater. But corporate welfare is what really drowns it.

Since the crisis, the country’s debt to GDP has gone from 100% to 180%. Tensions have skyrocketed, and the Greek people are suffering.

(Last night Zerohedge published footage of Greek people on the island of Lesvos raiding a food truck. Shocking.)

They are the ones that now have to bear the burden of a stagnant economy, capital controls, and inflation.

None of these measures have worked. And just watch as Nigel destroys this dangerous euro groupthink in four minutes.

 

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Thu, 07/09/2015 - 08:36 | 6289304 mojojojo
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https://goo.gl/AgTCFE -  my blog. basically, Bernie Sanders isn't going to save America, for that matter, neither is Rand Paul, but I'm more willing to see Rand attempt his brand of change

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 08:48 | 6289376 WestVillageIdiot
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I think I would rather have Barry Sanders over Bernie Sanders.  I saw Bernie on a news show a couple months ago.  Bernie seemed as inherently dishonest as any politician out there. His vision is the same as the entire "liberal" movement, the destruction of the middle class. 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 08:29 | 6289305 B2u
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If I could I would give it a rating higher than 5.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:03 | 6289753 dizzyfingers
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Me too. More here: http://www.ukipmeps.org/

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 08:30 | 6289309 PhilofOz
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Wow, his speeches just get better and better! Gotta love this guy!

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 08:32 | 6289312 Free_Spirit
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Obliteration, utter total annihilation. I'm not a Farage fan, but what he says here is spot on.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 08:32 | 6289314 shovelhead
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Tsipras: "Nice speech, Nigel...

Can you loan us a few bucks?"

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 08:38 | 6289336 XAU XAG
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Sorry Tsipras.................UK has a worse debt problem than...............................Greece

 

"Sorry ol chap"

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 08:49 | 6289380 JustUsChickensHere
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And Farage is consistent in arguing for a similar solution for the UK.

Escape the unelected Brussels mob, and resume full soveriegnty.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:13 | 6289805 Ghordius
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"Escape the unelected Brussels mob"?

you do know that Nigel Farage is an elected Member of the European Parliament, don't you?

the only way for Britons to escape the EU is for themselves to decide to exit

and they will, finally, have a referendum. or so Cameron promised... if reelected

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 08:34 | 6289316 Smegley Wanxalot
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Tsipras is a caveman, and will do what cavemen do best: CAVE.

Not that I want him to, but he has "fucking europussy" written all over his blank face.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 08:42 | 6289357 willien1derland
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I can completely appreciate your sentiments & news artciles appeared that completely underscore your point - Tspiras hoped the referendum would have backfired & allowed him an out...but imagine what occurred behind the scenes - I wonder if even the mind of Wes Craven could have formulated such but he appears to be the man of this moment - hopefully, God sparing despite his appearance he can shake this world to its senses...

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:40 | 6289939 FireBrander
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He's a Communist ya know...How fucked up are things that we are hoping for a Communist to "shake this world to its senses"...:)

Tsparis is what you get when Capitalism eventually fails...exactly as Marx predicted.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 08:35 | 6289320 gwar5
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Nigel Farage is definitely still an extremist because he makes way too much sense.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 08:35 | 6289321 Noisy Angel
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subtitle @ 2:43
"mother bitch worked" :D

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 08:36 | 6289326 willien1derland
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Though I admire Farage's summary & do not disagree it gives great pause to watch the facial expressions of Tspiras...because as all know, including Farage, that though the Greeks have friends around the world they have also thrown down to the psychopathic status quo who will punish them in an attempt to manipulate the other Southern Periphery EU member states...If ever a country required prayers backed with material/vocal support it is the current souvereign nation of Greece.

God Bless Greece & May God turn the hearts of world leaders back to honorable endeavors.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:11 | 6289496 BringOnTheAsteroid
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God can't do anything, human free will cannot be altered, even by an infinite power. If it can, it isn't free will.

Humas are the masters of their own destiny (in effect we are god) and unfotunately our brains are built around a reptilian core. Now either the brain evolved that way through natural forces or was designed by an exceedingly dumb bastard.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:55 | 6289717 WTFUD
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With Goldman Sucks as the Disciples don't hold your fucking breath. As if any of those Eurotrash Politicians, Bankers and hanger-on Lobbyists believe in GOD.

GOD is for POOR DUMB FUCKERS.

Pacification for the MASSES.

Fri, 07/10/2015 - 01:12 | 6293824 TheReplacement
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"GOD is for POOR DUMB FUCKERS." ~ You

'It is easier to thread a camel through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to attain heaven.'  ~ Paraphrasing Jesus

Obviously you must believe in something more than earthly riches or you would be one of those elites. 

Since everything God created is natural it stands to reason that the above quotes are logical as the things the elites do are most unnatural.

Ponder

 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 08:36 | 6289327 markar
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Sums up the whole EU debacle in 4 minutes. Should be the shot heard round the world.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 08:38 | 6289334 buzzsaw99
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the UK were some smart mother fuckers to not join the euro

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 08:40 | 6289347 XAU XAG
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That was down to Mrs T

 

"The Iron Lady"

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:09 | 6289484 Motasaurus
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What's the song again?

Britains never, never, never shall be slaves.

London knew what they were doing when they financed the debarcle. They also knew what they were doing when they refused to join it.
"Follow the money" has never been more true, and what did Nigel work for before he took up politics? He was a commodities trader in London. 

The words he says are the words of London's banks. Just follow the money. 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:58 | 6289730 WTFUD
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THATCHER was a CUNT. May she rot in HELL.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:35 | 6289633 The Shodge
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Yeah, but those 'smart' motherfuckers joined the EU and suffer from mass immigration more than any other EU country. Glad they're on an island. We're all fucked in our own way.

 

 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:36 | 6289924 ross81
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only because the people were firmly opposed and it wouldve been political suicide domestically for whichever party went ahead & adopted it.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 11:15 | 6290179 TNTARG
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But the Bank of London owns around 15% of the ECB's capital, coming 2nd. after the Deutsche Bundesbank. Interesting, isn't it? 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 08:41 | 6289353 forgotten in th...
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The problem in this Euroland is that they dont ask the people about.

 

And in the few times that the people was asked to say their opinion -Danes, Swiss. Irish- they all said NO every single time!

 

Now that they asked the Greeks few days ago the answer again was No! But politicians now saying that No is Yes! Is it me or something going wrong here?

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 12:05 | 6290399 The Delicate Genius
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the people of europe dont want to be flooded with displacement level immigration - yet it happens, at levels far exceeding the reasonable, though people don't want it and it makes no economic sense given the people arriving.

So - cui bono?

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 08:43 | 6289361 Calculus99
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If you notice farange is one of the few politicians of any party that warns about the danger of the Elites. For that he must be respected even if you don't like the man. Personally I like him, a lot. 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:10 | 6289488 Motasaurus
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He warns about the dangers of rival elites. He's actively working for London.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 08:45 | 6289369 Irishcyclist
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Excellent speech by Nigel Farage. He's absolutely correct on practically all the points that he makes.

One issue though. If Greece leaves the €, she will regain her own economic sovereignty, but let no one be fooled she will be in a very difficult situation.

 

Whether she remains in the eurozone or if she decides to leave, Greece is going to be put through the wringer either way. I wish Greece well. 

 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 08:50 | 6289387 WestVillageIdiot
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Die on your feet, or live on your knees? 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 08:52 | 6289398 cwsuisse
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It is always assumed that introducing an own currency will be very painful. This conviction does not seem to be rooted in standard economic textbooks. Where does it come from?

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:08 | 6289780 shovelhead
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No Swiss cheese.

No anything from anywhere unless they want to trade those Drachmas for olive oil.

And Italian olive oil is far cheaper.

 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 08:53 | 6289402 HenryHall
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Greece will be helped by its friends all over the world.

All over the world outside the gnomes of the Eurozone that is.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:39 | 6289646 Irishcyclist
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Talk is cheap.

 

 

Look at how all the pledges made following a natural disaster - like the recent disaster in Nepal for example - are not honoured.

The international community talk a good fight but very rarely follow through on what they pledge to do. Sadly.

 

I wish the Greeks well with whatever choice is made.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 08:56 | 6289403 piratepiet2
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Pretty clear some Anglos want to keep Europe divided.

To compare the Euro to the Berlin wall is deceptive.

My view is that the Berlin wall and iron curtain were in part about creating a division, to keep Germany weak and divided in a divided Europe.  The Anglos were, I believe, instrumental in that (among others, of course).  

The Euro tries to accomplish the opposite.    We should therefore wear the contempt of Anglos like Farage with pride, without alienating those Anglos who want a strong and united Europe

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:19 | 6289538 shovelhead
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A strong and united Europe?

No problem.

Better cough up some more dough. Some Europeans ran amok with the credit cards and got a bit in "arrears".

Those rich Euros shouldn't mind too much. They're all into this group hug business anyway.

Cough up.  Chasing dreams ain't cheap.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:17 | 6289832 suteibu
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From your comments on a previous thread, you believe that bringing the US into the mix would help bring some cohesiveness to the situation.  Why would the American people want to get involved in this disaster?  The best chance you have of bringing in the US - except through onerous trade and security treaties - is to fix your mess first.  But, once fixed, why would you want the arrogant Americans?

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 11:14 | 6290177 libertysghost
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Your "view" is the same as mainstream history as that was pretty much the stated reason for dividing Germany at the time.  The Soviets staked a claim on E. Germany because they thought a unified Germany was dangerous given the recent history of Europe at the time...and you are right, the Anglos agreed for the most part...at the time.  And now Germany is unified...and Europe is falling apart again.  I don't blame the German people somuch as the elites who run them...as is the case with nation states today.  But of course, it's up to them to prove the world wrong also because who else can?  

Europe divides Europe...and your implication that it is bad is what's the problem.  If you treat the history correctly, you will see that it is when elites try to unify it that the wars break out.  Nopoleon and Hitler are prime examples in a "political history" sense, but in the economic history sense, you can see that the emergence and force of private central banks had a major influence on starting expnading both WWI and WWII as well...and their goal in a nutshell, a "unified" Europe they could control economically.  Might the formation of the EU be seen as a more "up front" desire of elites in Europe both politically and in the banking/finance/industry sectors to "unify Europe" once again to centralize their control further and not deal with pesky elections and popular movements that might ACTUALLY influence the course of history?  I think so.  

This merger of the state's political elites with the economic elites is the ultimate manifestation of progressive corporatism...and another attempt to "unify Europe" so that the "smart people" can run things more efficiently (on their own terms and judgementof "efficiency"), which also happens to be for their own interests entirely.  

Another way to describe a "divided Europe" is to say a Europe full of sovereign peoples competing with each other in their own decentralized self-interests producing real "progress" in both human and economic terms...it doesn't sound quite so bad when those words are chosen instead.  

I'm all for a "divided world" even when in that context...when it's "unified" it's by elite design and you can bet that when elites agree on things it's not going to be in the best interests of the average person. 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 08:55 | 6289407 Invinciblehandaxe
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I wholeheartedly applaud you Mr. Farage and hope that Greeks do listen.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 08:56 | 6289414 racasan
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Nigel is another that follows zero hedge on twitter

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:03 | 6289449 Debugas
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the EU is collapsing

just take a look at how polish nationalist reacts to new attempts to create one EU mass transit ticketing system

 

Ein Reich, ein Volk, ein Ticket

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1xVRRYr93o

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:21 | 6289548 shovelhead
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Those crazy Polacks...

Always with the Hitler jokes.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:06 | 6289766 Ghordius
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LOL, good one, thanks

you see? this is the terrible, terrible EU boot on the neck of the Peoples of Europe. a single ticketing system! the horror! the horror!    /S

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:03 | 6289450 shovelhead
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Who would have thought that making simple rational observations would be enough to elevate someone to a heroic status.

Look at how far down the hole we've gone.

And no. No flurry of truth telling quotes. We know them all by now, ad nauseum.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:04 | 6289455 coast
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Nigel is to EU kinda same as Ron Paul is to U.S.   Except Nigel is a bit more articulate, vibrant, charismatic etc.   I would vote for Nigel. If there was such thing as voting anymore..

As far as Greece.  Seems as tho the EU will try and thrash Greece with everything they got. The EU doesnt want any more uppity countries wannting to default.  The world needs to rally around Greece.  Greece does have to start at least slowly calming down and changing their socialism ways tho.  Not so much austerity, but they have to begin a different direction. People are simply going to have to work a bit harder.  But the work is worth if it brings freedom from the EU. 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:23 | 6289563 BringOnTheAsteroid
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The world needs to rally around Greece ?????

What would you do personally to show support for Greece?

Like me, probably nothing.

It's all empty words and the majority of our potential activism is soaked up in internet forums.

There are no Bravehearts anymore.

There are no Martin Luther Kings anymore.

We are essentially a defeated and useless generation.

The system is vastly too huge for any of us to think for a second that anything we do will make the slightest difference.

The perfect world for the oligarch, sociopath, narcissist, meglomaniac.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:09 | 6289784 Ghordius
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"Nigel is to EU kinda same as Ron Paul is to U.S."

how so? Mr. Paul is an Austrian School economic scholar. Nigel Farage... isn't. And I could go on, endlessly. Really, please explain this meme

methinks this is really based on one monumental "the EU is like the US" mythological story

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 11:25 | 6290225 JohninMK
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Nigel also stood for the UK Parliament and did not win.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 12:20 | 6290474 The Delicate Genius
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how so?

Seriously?

If you can not summon a rejoinder to your own query, you understand neither the Ron Paul phenomena nor the UKIP one.

anti-war
anti-fiat
anti-police state
anti-mass immigration
anti-unsustainable entitlements

etc

I mean - for fuck's sake...

Fri, 07/10/2015 - 07:29 | 6294330 Ghordius
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yes, you are describing Dr. Paul, with this. and now go over to Nigel Farage, will you?

is he anti-fiat, for example?

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:17 | 6289834 libertysghost
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Kind of off topic, but it relates..."I think" ;-)  

The 1968 Tet Offensive.  Historians treat this in different ways but (as one myself) I tend to present it as a crossroads where the US government was forced to admit (to itself I guess) that a conventional "win" in Vietnam was impossible given that it would literally require complete obliteration of Vietnam.  That was not what they wanted to "win" and a completely destroyed Vietnam would soon pass from the memory of most peoples.  So on to plan "B"...which is, maybe, where the EU/ECD is today with Greece:

-The EU can't just leave Greece alone at this point and "cut its losses" because it would have at least an even odds chance of doing better over time and that's not the message the EU can afford to send to other struggling nations in the EU.  In essence, the more the other broker countries in the EU bring down the EURO value, the more Germany gains in real economic growth through exports.  The flip side was that the pooer countries would have more leverage to borrow inside the EURO as it inflated their previous currencies, but that had a finite end when you don't use the opportunity to make structural changes to pay off your previous debts more efficiently with these lower opportunity costs (think transferring a credit card balance to a 0% short term to pay it off...good if you do it...bad usually when you just add to your debts by maxing the old card out again and not paying off the transferred debt).

-So like the US strategy change in Vietnam, it is programmed pain and destruction as long as possible to "be a lesson" to the others not to challenge the global economic elite system as designed (in Vietnam it appeared to be largely the model to have Japan be the center of global elite control in SE Asia after WWII).  

 

So I think you're right...the EU will do everything it can to inflict as much pain on Greece as possible no matter what the outcome is because they have already "stood up" which in point alone is not acceptable to the model the global elites have for "European Union".  

But the course of centralization over the last 100+ years is waning naturally do to a number of factors pressuring decentralization...many of them just plain the impossible results of that centralization itself for too many humans on the planet.  Others are largely technological pressures challenging the legitimacy of the centralized systems and their inneficiient ways.

 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 11:42 | 6290320 The Delicate Genius
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"would literally require complete obliteration of Vietnam"

Well complete obliteration is basically the plan for Syria and Iraq.

I guess you have to ask yourself - is this because of pressing United States national security [to include energy] concerns, or is it because Israel and its agents have hijacked US foreign policy to carry out Likud's wet dreams using naught but goyish blood and treasure?

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_islam...

http://www.voltairenet.org/article186019.html

Recall what bin Laden said...and how it was completely *memory-holed* by the media...

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2009/11/16/shining-light-roots-terrorism

"Motive? Ramzi Yousef spelled out his motive in a letter to The New York Times after the bombing:

"We declare our responsibility for the explosion on the mentioned building. This action was done in response for the American political, economical, and military support to Israel, the state of terrorism, and to the rest of the dictator countries in the region."

Yousef was captured in Pakistan in 1995, imprisoned in New York City, and held there until his trial. On Nov. 12, 1997, he was convicted of "seditious conspiracy" and was sentenced the following January to life without parole. He is held at the high-security Supermax prison in Florence, Colorado.

Regarding the touchy Israel connection, the 9/11 Commission stepped up to the plate in the "Recommendations" section of its final report, which was issued on July 22, 2004, but then bunted:

"America's policy choices have consequences. Right or wrong, it is simply a fact that American policy regarding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and American actions in Iraq are dominant staples of popular commentary across the Arab and Muslim world. ... Neither Israel nor the new Iraq will be safer if worldwide Islamist terrorism grows stronger." (pp 376-377)

A more convincing swing at this issue was taken in an unclassified study published by the Pentagon-appointed U.S. Defense Science Board on Sept. 23, 2004, just two months later. The board stated:

"Muslims do not ‘hate our freedom,' but rather, they hate our policies. The overwhelming majority voice their objections to what they see as one-sided support in favor of Israel and against Palestinian rights, and the longstanding, even increasing support for what Muslims collectively see as tyrannies, most notably Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Pakistan, and the Gulf States.

"Thus, when American public diplomacy talks about bringing democracy to Islamic societies, this is seen as no more than self-serving hypocrisy.""

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:27 | 6289876 garcam123
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I've decided that I will support Greece. In a few months they will be settled down with their Drachama and things will be priced to move.  I'm planning on doing a tour through the area with my backpack and guitar and I hope to spread some money and DNA throughout the country.

I can just imagine it now....hot broke women, good hash and ozo.....what's to need?

 

Go Greece! If I can just get them to shave their moustashs off!

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:08 | 6289475 Pliskin
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Not a single mention of this in the U.K. MSM.

That Murdoch hasbara machine Sky News is headlining some U.S. singer who licked a doughnut.

God forbid the U.K. sheeple should get to see/hear a speech like Farage made...they might just wake up.

 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:09 | 6289483 Wild E Coyote
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It would be so nice if elections can be held without electronic fraud.
Nigel and Ukip would win more UK seats in every election.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 11:30 | 6290249 JohninMK
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We don't vote electronically, its still all done with bits of paper.

Doesn't stop fraud tho', especially postal, but it does make cooking the books much harder as piles of paper can be seem at counts, not invisible bits in a computer.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:13 | 6289501 geekz_rule
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the austerity project.. the result of Reagan / Thatcher - Ayn Rand Objectivist madness.. austerity for the people.. while the privatizers rape the country, privatize all of it, sell it off to themselves with the ill gotten loots of their pillage. its the machiavellian result of greenspan's time with darling Ayn, the sociopath. 

everything about euro is an obvious attack against the social programs of europe, because Plutocrats WANT all that money.

straight up kill anything that can be killed, starve off what can't be overtly killed. any means are acceptable. 

only the most psychotic, sociopathic amongst us are even interested in participating in this game of leadership, because it enables their dark selfish side...paedophelia, torture, death, and the most heinous atrocities one can imagine. usually born into their silver spoon splendor, indoctrinated in malicious agendas.

its happening everywhere, US included. empowered "titans of industry" = voodoo economics = rape everything, then snuff it out, wrangle over the carcass . de regulate everything. whether the field is mega transnational corporation evil, or government evil, its the same people, the same mindset.

we are witnessing the end game of a 1% "galt" wannabe collection of inbred elites, and their manifestation neo feudalism.

predictable , really.

the real threat to mankind was never the manufactured bogeyman of communism, socialism, blah blah blah. childish monsters under the bed. NO.

Monopolization. Of Everything. W Va Coal mine model. you are already owned, cradle to grave. everything you see, touch taste, smell - owned. and not by you.

for all the principled blather, like all other systems, including the us.. rest on a inference that is completely unachievable. people with power and access maintaining trustworthiness.

all people with power and access will go full retard corrupt. always have, always will, unless violent accountability is maintained. 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:16 | 6289521 Ghordius
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you are mixing up Reagan and Tatcher's "Voodo Economics" with Ayn Rand and all that...

but our eurozone "balanced budgets" movement has very little to do with all that

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:19 | 6289535 geekz_rule
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voodoo economics, I suggest is Ayn Randian.

it's another gesture to "empower the titans of industry" supply side...

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:55 | 6289718 shovelhead
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It's quite clear you have never read Rand. Swiping slogans from the unlettered does not make a coherent argument.

Try harder. Scholarship is it's own reward.

 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 12:16 | 6290453 The Delicate Genius
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Why, I'm genuinely asking, do you think it is clear he never read Ayn Rand?

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 14:21 | 6291150 Jugdish
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Why you ask ? Because hopefully Hillary will get in and sort this mess out. No fucking sarc / Hillary is the next fucking messiah and you are racist and hate women that drive cars. Let's focus on the real issues here guy.

Fri, 07/10/2015 - 01:37 | 6293867 TheReplacement
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While my response will be nothing compared to jugdish's, I hope to provide an answer for third parties who might actually be genuine in asking.

Perhaps it was because what he said about Rand was exactly the opposite of true. 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:13 | 6289502 TuPhat
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Simon gets it wrong and Nigel (great guy) doesn't get it either.  The 'bailouts' did go to the Greek people.  The so called bailouts were actually an increase in debt that the Greek people are on the hook for.  They were a bailout for the banks and more debt for the Greeks.  Every plan since then has been to increase the Greek public debt.  The problem as always is that people want something they didn't work for and that leaves them vulnerable to being screwed by the banks.  They are now worried that the banks will run out of cash even though the greeks are allowed to print euros.  That looks like another scam to me.  They won't run out of cash, they just don't want to give depositors their money.  They want to confiscate it and use it to pay back the lenders.  Same thing will eventually happen in the US.  It's all a game and the banksters make the rules.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:35 | 6289624 Wolf in the Wilds
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Actually, each bailout has been used to repay the loans that the Trioka lent them the first time.  Think of it as rolling the credit card bill and interest with a loan.  That is pretty much what Brussels  and the ECB has provided for Greece.  Each bailout is to cover the payments of the previous bailout.  

Of course the original position was already untenable to begin with but the bailouts were nothing more that kicking the can of the Euro problem, at the same time leeching economic health from Greece.  

Without the ability to adjust the competitiveness of the country via the currency and with Germany efficiency killing the periphery, the only way was to cut salary and cost, leading to economic stagnation and contraction.  

Nigel Farage is right.  The Euro is the wall between the North and the South.

 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:14 | 6289512 newsoutlet
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he he he - it was said by a man who: Nigel Farage resigns as Ukip leader after failure to win Westminster seat

Calls for electoral reform as party picks up 12% of vote and comes second in at least 90 seats, but fails to win targets such as South Thanet and loses Rochester

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/08/ukip-frustrated-share-vo...

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:47 | 6289679 lakecity55
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"But I coulda been a Contender!"
"You had to take the dive, Nigel. It was that or get shot."

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 11:33 | 6290272 JohninMK
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Ain't gonna happen.

We had a referendum on voting method only 3 or so years ago.

That's it for 20 years+ probably.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:15 | 6289516 me or you
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What a great speech!

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:15 | 6289519 anachronism
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I have watched several video clips conveying the views of various speakers at the parliamentary session. What is most telling are the troubled expressions on the face of the Prome Minister of greece. He is very worried -I might say "scared"- at the prospect of leaving the Eurozone. The Europeans in general -Germans in particular- see Grexit as their ultimate punishment for the Greeks. They seem determined to crush not just the Greek government, but also the the Greek people.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:20 | 6289543 Lady Jessica
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"They seem determined to crush not just the Greek government, but also the the Greek people."

 This is mere projection on your part.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:32 | 6289614 Element
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Yeah, discovering everyone else has a point of view that's just as valid or intense as your own, about the same subject, and nothing like the way you see it.

The clash of conflicting day-dreams.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:38 | 6289931 Ghordius
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I nevertheless disagree with "The Europeans in general -Germans in particular- see Grexit as their ultimate punishment for the Greeks. They seem determined to crush not just the Greek government, but also the the Greek people. "

they are still haggling, btw. haggling usually means they agree in principle on the deal, but not yet on the price

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 11:00 | 6290071 Element
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Not so sure G, they've pissed off everyone, I think it's over and they're discussing the divorce terms and alimony.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 11:12 | 6290159 Ghordius
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well, that is a price, too. we'll see. on principle, I prefer those european clubs to have doors. to exit, to enter, to exit and then re-enter, whatever. anything else is... yes, tyranny

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:44 | 6289665 lakecity55
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Well, shit, they're Germans.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:57 | 6289725 MarxFelix
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Greeks WANT to stay inside the euro-zone !! So, there are no other solutions; they MUST pay back their debt up to the last euro !! No more room for ignorance!!

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:16 | 6289818 forgotten in th...
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Listen to the news : 61% of Greeks DONT WANT 

 

 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:31 | 6289891 libertysghost
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But who is interested in facts when they conflict with their beliefs?  ;-)

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 11:06 | 6290118 J Jason Djfmam
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You are German. Right?

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:02 | 6289738 Gyges
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Leaks from the Greek government contain the words "Eurozone" "neofascist" "European" "dictatorship", so don't be so sure.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:20 | 6289542 mog
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4,000,000 of us including me voted for UKIP and Nigel Farage.

With Britain a disgrace to democracy - barely rating third world in practicing it - for our four million votes we managed to get 1 seat in the house of Commons.

Call that democracy?

It is a sham, a fraud, a farce.

The Scottish Nats got 1,500,000 votes and took 56 seats.

And Cameron's regime - and regime it is as it has no popular vote to back it up took 11,000,000 votes - just over a third of te total but grabbed 331 seats - more than half - and hijacked the British government on the back of it.

Half a million people petitioned the government for a fairer system - votes mean seats - 5 party leaders and two huge electoral organisations to bring in PR.

The Cameron regime has not just refused but told a blatant lie.

In 2011 Britain got to vote in a referendum on changing the voting to AV.

A terrible system that was righty rejected.

The regime is now claiming that that referendum was on PR not AV - a lie of constitutional significance  and are using that lie to stop further moves to bring in PR - a system used in most democracies across the planet but would stop the tories stealing power

Nigel Farage has put his actual head on the line.

He is a brave and amazing leader.
He is now the main target for islamic killers in Britain as he has denounced them.

Here is UKIP's deputy leader today.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/07/09/ukip-deputy-leader-the-west-i...

Cameron on the other hand wants a muslim he is promoting and grooming to succeed him as Prime Minister.

And wittered on that islam is the religion of peace as they returned home the slaughtered British victims of islamic terror in Tunisia. 30 of them.

A new poll on British muslims. we have millions here many trained jihadis shows half of them sypathetic to ISIS.

Only Farage and his followers have the guts to stand against them

Here is the Tory mayor of London.

Defending the flying of the IS flag in London.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/07/08/islamic-state-flag-should-not...

 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:30 | 6289605 shovelhead
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We could send him a few extra Confederate flags we aren't using.

They probably wouldn't have a qualm about banning them.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:43 | 6289653 lakecity55
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Now, talk about entrepreneurship; I have bought up every confederate zippo lighter and battle flag knife I can find. I sold the first knife yesterday for double what I paid for it. Then the first guy I sold to showed it to a couple of friends. Two more pen knives sold.

I found a store where the mgr had taken all his confederate zippo lighters off the shelf. I bought all of them yesterday.

The battle flag issue is a huge red herring, but I might as well make some fiats.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:38 | 6289643 lakecity55
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+1000

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:40 | 6289651 smacker
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Well said. +1

"Cameron on the other hand wants a muslim he is promoting and grooming to succeed him as Prime Minister."

Who is this?

Imagine that ...Cameron's muslim successor versus the jew Miliband.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 11:07 | 6290123 J Jason Djfmam
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Barak Hussein Obama

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 13:02 | 6290683 mog
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/business-secretary-sajid-j...

He is Pakistani

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26956184

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/11212217/I-want-t...

You think you have a problem - this is ours

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10930988/MPs-are-too-white-says...

Spare a minute to watch this video.

Too many white christian faces in Parliament

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHqRtLeI_pE

Even train the terrorists for ISIS

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4343531.stm

Believe this if you can.

https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/ministry-of-defence

This is going on right across Britain and Cameron does nothing.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/11704486/Brit...

They are increasing in numbers by at least a thousand a month plus.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 13:56 | 6290937 smacker
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Thanks for those links...Well, there are whole towns in England where the English language is the 2nd language, mostly Indian and Pakistani languages from the days of empire. I guess white traitors like Cameron - who live in secure gated country homes well away from immigrants - now want to add Arabic to that mix. Then it'll be Sharia law. And almost without exception, these people have a 1st loyalty to their faith, not Britain.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 11:26 | 6290231 XAU XAG
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@mog  +1000

 

Great post

 

I voted the same way as you....................

 

Perhaps we can make a bigger dent in 2017

 

 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:29 | 6289600 Duude
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IMHO, Nigel Farage was spot on.....well, except for misleading Greece into thinking leaving the EU will lead to only a few tough months. LOL!  The current Greek leadership are totally clueless about effectively running a country without EU taxpayers paying their way.  Assuming the Greek people don't push for elections immediately, should Greece actually leave the EU, I see the people pushing to out the Prime Minister within a year. 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:33 | 6289620 nightwish
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Thank god the u.s. debt to gdp is only at 107%. Good thing our debt to gdp has only increased 6% per year since 2008, or i'd really start worrying.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:41 | 6289654 Wolf in the Wilds
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You are kidding right or are you being sarcastic?  107%???  That doesn't include state debt, social security obiigations, GSE debt.. etc..

The truth is that Americans cannot handle the truth.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:53 | 6289708 Fed-up with bei...
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Well, we Americans are not that stupid, as you insinuate.  We People are offered choices between idiots and liars, as we love our Elections. I DO NOT VOTE, as my abstinance saves me time and money and effort.   We are offered something akin to complete and utter nonsense in our mainstream Media.  The nightly news is offensive at best and irritatingly low-yielding.   We are BROKE.  We wage war on EVERYONE and EVERYTHING;   our food and water is making us ill;   I used to believe in America, but now I know better.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:14 | 6289808 NoBillsOfCredit
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Fraud cancels any agreement based upon it. The Federal Reserve System is fraud and so are their "notes". Any debt from this system is null and void as a matter of law. But, who cares about the law any more?

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 11:10 | 6290144 headhunt
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The US is F'd up but where are you going to go; Greece?

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:34 | 6289622 yogibear
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Nigel Farage is in a whole different league than Obama.

No teleprompter.

He's more like a modern day Winston Churchill.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:36 | 6289637 lakecity55
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I thought the same thing when he mentioned the iron curtain between N&S Europe.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:49 | 6289658 Monetas
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Has it ever been more clear .... these are not .... Plato's Greeks .... this riff raff from the Ottoman Caliphate !

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:58 | 6289732 Gyges
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Plato spent his entire life ranting about what a riff-raff his fellow Greeks were.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:44 | 6289663 q99x2
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Greece entering the euro was great for Goldman Sachs

Those bastards. What filth that has so little respect for existence that it would destroy the love and empathy between people, the only real measurable qualities that makes life worth living. Arrest Lloyd Blankfein and Jamie Dimon and prosecute them for treason. Everybody knows they have overstayed their welcome on this planet. Put an end to their destruction.


Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:50 | 6289688 localizer
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Absolute truth spoken by a politician - rare case indeed. And they say Farage is nuts...

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:24 | 6289866 Global Douche
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Indeed. Whenever Farage talks, this ZH'er listens intently. As the locals here say: "Mas huevos!" Because he possesses a true brass set which serve him well and shall vindicate him fully in the long term (more likely becoming the short term). He's among my favorite guests who occasionally appear on Max Keiser's report.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 11:42 | 6290317 localizer
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I've listened to some of his speeches and I must say this guy actually makes a lot of sense. At least what I've heard about Europe, the banks, the debt, austerity and all the economic issues at large. His views on immigration is something that is most likely projecting a negative image on his entire activity and I've not heard much from him about that anyhow, but what he said in this clip is absolutely spot on.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:50 | 6289689 pot_and_kettle
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I can not imagine what Nigel's life insurance premium is.

And if he included double payout in case of nail gun... oofah

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:55 | 6289714 Monetas
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The Greeks of today .... didn't build the Parthenon .... they are the "love children" of the Turkish Muslim soldiers .... who blew up the Parthenon .... just like they are blowing up the EU !

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 09:57 | 6289726 Gyges
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Greeks are hairy, the Turks are not. This one blew up in your hands.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:06 | 6289767 Monetas
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The got their hairy backs .... from their Albanian mothers ?

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:20 | 6289842 forgotten in th...
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What a racist you are! Besides about 15-20% of Germans are Turks because German women after WW2 couldnt find a man alive..

 

And so many Germans are children of the Russian infantry.

 

But so what?

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 11:08 | 6290132 headhunt
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"And so many Germans are children of the Russian infantry."

You mean rapists?

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 11:57 | 6290375 forgotten in th...
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No no no!

 

What I was trying to say to our friend is that 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQYob6dpTTk

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 12:30 | 6290513 The Delicate Genius
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sure - just like the Jews of today are not the Hebrews of the Bible.

Aw.. but *that* you don't like, I bet.

lol.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:01 | 6289743 Financial Paparazzi
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While politicians from the left and from the right are busy defending their narrow views of the world, Europe is falling apart. And when it finally collapses, nobody will take responsibility. War in Europe will become a real possibility.

There is a way to save Europe AND Greece at the same time, to the benefit of everyone:forget-about-reaching-a-deal-with-greece-europe-needs-a-deal-with-europe

Time to rise to the occasion.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:02 | 6289748 victorher
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This is the best Nigel, completely right. I love this chum. But he is too much british to undertand how Tsipras' brain works. Have you seen the expression of Tsipras?. Indeed he was not happy listening to Nigel,

I am afraid he is going to surrender Greece in exchange for 30 silver coins.

 

 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:04 | 6289760 HamRove
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The way he JOLTS his head forward when he is speaking, emphasizing a word in the sentence...is...just....mesmerizing! 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:05 | 6289763 Kina
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Nigel has the ability to put things quite clearly, without the padding, that cuts through.

Yeh he is exactly right, as all of them there know, but will never say because nobody cared if Greece and friends were basket cases at the begining, just getting them in was all that mattered.

It was always fucking stupid for Greece to adpt the Euro, they signed their own debt servitude with those shackles.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:09 | 6289783 NoBillsOfCredit
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Who exactly did the signing? I doubt the people did.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:11 | 6289791 Gyges
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Who else but Simitis? German-educated, like his accomplices.

EDIT: This photo should have been treated like a fucking omen.

Notice his lackey Lucas Papademos, who later became "technocrat PM" of the sort they want to replace Tsipras with.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 11:05 | 6290112 headhunt
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They all took the free shit and voted for the free-shit promises.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:12 | 6289802 Monetas
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Like a Ferguson nigger .... signing his student loan application .... without reading it !

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:31 | 6289894 Global Douche
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Just as our Congressmen who sign ObamaCare and secret treaties without reading them. No wonder the world is experiencing a massive "swirly" when instead we collectively need to stick some politician's heads in the loo and push the plunger repeatedly to flush the shit out.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 11:04 | 6290101 headhunt
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A lot of whites in that same boat.

 

More like - Like a leftist signing a mortgage... and complaining...  about not receiving enough of your paycheck... to pay for it.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 12:08 | 6290409 The Delicate Genius
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a racist Zionist??

No... can't be...

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:14 | 6289813 Proofreder
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The main take-away from Nigel's speech:

The EU Plan Has Failed!  It would be madness to continue ...

What about this, pray tell, do you not understand.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:19 | 6289816 Monetas
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Greeks cannot be blamed .... they are children .... wards of the state .... but, you can blame .... greedy socialist Greek politicians .... and their clients .... 800,000 civil servants .... look at the austerity .... with the Muslim invaders on Lesbos !

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:33 | 6289897 Element
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There are plenty of real Greeks left, I personally know some of them.  The ones I know are sharper and better educated than anyone I've ever met. More generous and friendly too.  ;-)

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:20 | 6289849 Madcow
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So long as Gov-Co International can continue to buy financial assets today with "tax revenues from the future" - everything is going to be okay - 

 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:20 | 6289850 PrayingMantis
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... bravo Nigel ... the mark of a true leader is to say exactly what's on his mind straight from the heart without sugar-coating on behalf of the institution ... ... Grexit ...  "... with friends of Greece all over the world, you will recover" ...

 

... and as a reminder >>> ... "Greece and Spain helped postwar Germany recover" ...

... " Sixty years ago today, an agreement was reached in London to cancel half of postwar Germany's debt. That cancellation, and the way it was done, was vital to the reconstruction of Europe from war." >>> read the rest here >>> http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/feb/27/greece-spain-helped-germany-recover ...

 

... "... The strongest moment of solidarity in Modern European history was in 1953 when your country [Germany] came out of two World Wars and Europe showed at the London Conference in 1953 the greatest possible solidarity,” Tsipras said. Fifty percent of German debt was written off at the time. And that was the biggest extension of solidarity in modern European history,” Tsipras added. ..." >>> http://rt.com/news/272560-tsipras-debt-relief-germany/ 

 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:40 | 6289951 mog
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A pactical way to help Greece particularly their young unemployed.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/greek-crowdfund#/funders

And one struggling small business

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/small-greek-business-in-greece-of-cri...

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:29 | 6289870 Die Weiße Rose
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Nigel Farage ls a fucking Idiot  !

Margaret Thatcher in drag...

How do you keep coming up with more incompetent fools day after day ?

Is this some kind of ploy by brain-amputated insurgents and other zombie-like creatures to reactivate the once glorious british empire?

well, little wonder its all totally fucked up by now.

WR;)

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:39 | 6289946 The Magus
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You are the idiot.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 11:23 | 6290209 Caleb Abell
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Not an idiot, just a hun who resents having the NSA employee, and fellow hun, Merkel receiving the richly deserved insult Farage gave her.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:27 | 6289877 the grateful un...
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Jefferson County, MS

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:28 | 6289880 Bullshit Buster
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Nigel Farage is the only politician who tell the truth.... for now

If only politician could talk like this

http://www.bullionbullscanada.com/index.php/commentary/international-com...

 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:30 | 6289885 cn13
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I can't remember the last time I actually heard a politician tell the truth.

 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:58 | 6290054 J Jason Djfmam
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Probably Eisenhower.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 11:43 | 6290322 red_pill
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Kennedy.. look up his speech on secret societies

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 12:28 | 6290506 RiverRoad
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That's what got him killed by the way.

Fri, 07/10/2015 - 16:45 | 6296984 papaclop
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The central bankers had him killed because he was starting to go after the CB crooks.  Same with Lincoln, and they tried twice to get to Andrew Jackson.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 11:09 | 6290137 Pliskin
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Barrack Obama “with the additional steps I ordered last month, we’re speeding up training of ISIL forces.”

 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 11:40 | 6290304 red_pill
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I am not a politician, but I speak some truth on my gofundme campaign platform where I am trying to raise money to run for president. 

"

 

I am a meteorologist who has followed deep state politics for years, and is disgusted by our current crop of 'choices' for President.

 

I am running for President of the US because I can no longer 'hold my nose and vote for the lesser of two evils" 

Freedom is disappearing on so many fronts to list here and our foreign policy is making us the worst instigator of terrorism the world has ever seen. 

Platform:

1) work to create the business conditions to revitalize the small business sector of our economy, where most of the new jobs are created. End the destructive trade policies that got us into this economic mess from NAFTA to the more recently discussed (but not passed yet) TPP

2) suspend all aid to Israel, along with policy of selling them military hardware at deep (up to 75%) discounts.

3) End the Federal Reserve, and create a national banking system based on the Bank of North Dakota (look it up!)

4) close many miltary bases overseas, and stop trying the be the world's policeman.  End the policy of trying to force regime change on countries for the profit of large corporate interests. DEFEND The country, but don't act agressively.

5) Overturn Citizens United, so that corporate interests have less and not more say over which candidates can effectively run for office....right now, money is the only thing that matters, and the deep pocket donors like Soros, the Walton family and the Koch brothers have way more say than Joe sixpack.  

6) Label all GMO's and rein in Monsanto and other GM seed companies...There must be impartial testing and evaluating of all existing GM proucts and any new ones before they can be sold for animal or human consumption.

My VP would have to have these same ideas, so that when I am shut down or killed for implementing these reforms (Kennedy, anyone?) he or she could carry on."

http://www.gofundme.com/y7f4apa2

 

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:36 | 6289925 Eyeroller
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Tsipras looked like he was constipated...

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:41 | 6289967 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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The Euro is not a 'new Berlin Wall' it is a DEBT Ponzi scheme. Politicians don't know how to deal with DEBT Ponzi schemes so they opt to draw alternative analogies so that they can confuse the electorate, and prop up the Ponzi.

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:59 | 6290067 J Jason Djfmam
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This Ponzi guy is pretty popular!

Thu, 07/09/2015 - 10:46 | 6289990 stiler
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to me Tsipras looked like he agreed wholeheartedly with Farage, the Frog, but didn't want to look like it before that august body.

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