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The natives are pissed! Long pitch forks / short rich man's laws
Hopey McChange v2.0, The Great White Hope
We all know the dickhead that gets installed will sell his ass to the jew bankers on day 1.
Actually those zio's a;ready own the whols damn republican party and the Democrat one also.
I know Donald, have stayed at his home, and skied with him. He is a good guy, and not a bad choice for president, considering the field.
ex-girlfriend dealt with him (in a business sense). she said his favourite words are "i'll sue".
Compared to your last 20 presidents, he doesnt look all that bad. A self made man basicaly. Not a Trumped up moron (pardon the pun).
self-made? you mean apart from the inheritance, and being born into real estate development?
I think he means that Trump does his own hair and makeup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqg79bqEcfM
At this rate our next president will be Bernie Sanders accompanied by Pocahontas
At this rate ANY Democratic candidate could torture and dismember small kittens and children Live on prime time kiddies television and be elected by a land slide
I'm starting to convince myself that if we just had the Smithsonian sell the Hope Diamond, we would all be OK.
That's what it's gonna take.
Replace all politicians with open-source software.
Goldman Sachs would sue for theft of Intellectual Property
Both Rs and Ds are attacking him, which we like. We also like the fact that he can fund his own campaign. He is scaring the bejeezus out of some very prominent people and this makes us very happy.
But could you possibly imagine how much fun it would be to watch him drag bureaucrat after bureaucrat up in from of him and say “What do you do?.. oh…… You’re fired!” ?
Ok, he is an ass clown with a dyed Wombat pelt for hair. BUT, he did step out and say that unemployment is 20% not 5% and that ZIRP has caused a number of bubbles that is good for him and the wealthy but bad for the rest of us.
Don't expect the other flock of elitist fraternity scumbags to say anything like that. Ever.
Threat level orange-red! Someone sent us up the bomb.
Activate: Jesse Ventura GO! For greater justice...
Whoops... Make that the NOTA party.
Bernie Sanders will wipe that smile off Hillary's face real soon.
The popularity of Sanders and Trump is based on their status as spoilers. Anybody but another Bush or Clinton.
Trump has been for years a HUGE contributor to the Democrat party. Just saying- he plays both sides. He's a statist and he loves his government buddies as much as any large businessman. Yeah, he says truthy-sounding things, but I haven't met a politician yet who didn't know how to do that when they needed to, though rarely with his sharp tongue. The comment above about his first words in any situation being "I'll sue!" is spot-on as well.
This is bordering on hero worship with this guy and, frankly, I think that's dangerous. That's exactly how the Ds ended up shoving Obama down everyone's throat and look how lousy that turned out.
The act of voting is your explicit consent to keep this unconstitutional system in place.
I like Bush falling, and Paul rising.
Yeah Ron Paul. Last I heard Rand was off kissing the Wailing Wall.
Not as much as Jubio would appear.
(Full disclosure this is how New Yorkers actually COMMUNICATE
Who cares who becomes president now? All they are is glorified talking heads themselves now. I'm sure once they're elected they're dragged to a dark room and given a good "talking to" about what happens when you step out of line.
Fonestar,
Finally something we agree on.
No I don't agree.
The Presidency is an Institution.
I agree it might be a stupid Institution...but folks die defending the Guy.
Plus The Donald has never had his own 747.
He'll love that jobe....
I for one will be glad when "We The People" say, "You now what? FUCK THIS CIRCUS SHOW", but if you have to express your "Right" to act like your opinion or vote matters enough to start an argument with someone over which wolf you want to rule over the cowardly sheep who have obviously lost their gnads, then by all means, make a fool of yourselves...
If however you don't want to be relegated to mere scraps from the wealthy bags who obviously don't give a damn about you, your family, or your country one way or another, then please have a good read and wake the hell up already...
http://galeinnes.blogspot.com/2015/07/a-license-to-steal.html
But, if you think any of these wealthy bags will do anything other than what they have been doing for the many centuries, then you are obviously on the wrong forums all together. For those who lack an education, have a good watch here, it will tell you the real deal..
These are the people who call the shots, clearly...
https://youtu.be/J9DFZGQbw2A
So if your ass ain't blue blooded, your ass ain't getting elected, and yes Obummer is related to good ole Georgey the Slave Owner Washington...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&...
Cue "dr evil laugh...
the bush freaks are EXTREMELY powerful. the rest are not.
"The Donald" has an unfiltered brain to mouth connection. This is a good and a bad thing for him. Good because he says what many people are thinking, bad because it isn't always the truth or based in fact. His Hitler like Nationalistic retoric would push us that much closer to WW3, and I get the feeling that the Donald might have a quick trigger finger on the nuclear arsenal? I can picture the Donald behind his desk in the Oval Office saying "Nuke 'em" to the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Plus he is really not a big supporter of gun rights, he has said in the past he supports a nationwide "assault" weapons ban.
That said, I like the image of him saying "You're FIRED" to thousands of parasites in and around Washington D.C.
full speed ahead damn the torpedos. and remodel the white house, it looks like a section 8 family has lived there.
Hey so when asked what he thinks about the new negro class in America, Trump said "OH yea I love them, I almost got my daughter to marry one but she got the next best thing, a jew".
Anybody with two cents in their head can say the right shit. Trump is too much of an ego maniac to have that kind of power.
My brother is in the R.E. biz in Manhattan and has had dealing with Trump. Fucker screwed him out of several hundred thousans of commissions just because he could.
It seems behind every fabulously wealthy person is a string of raw dripping assholes! And yet so many worship them, here in the US.
EGOMANIAC!!
HELL YEAH!!!!
Sit in that chair and feel RIGHT AT HOME!
"The Trumpster or the a Dumpster" botch!
+100. Really surprised to see so many of the ZH crowd falling for this.
Me too, 12-15% of republican voters are idiots, thats what the chart says.
Sooo, anyways...
Makes me laugh actually.
Donald Trump is not a phoney...which is why he is surging in the polls.
Yeah...HE REALLY DID BUILD THAT YOU MORONS.
HE EARNED THAT EGO.
Now go vote for your "community organizer" who stands by and says nothing as the murder rate in the USA EXPLODES.
(No this is not an endorsement either.
I just love the guy because he is GENUINE. I think that is why folks love him here too.)
Trump filed for bankruptcy protection in 1991, 1992, 2004 and 2009. I have zero interest in putting him in charge of anything remotely connected to my prosperity or posterity.
But I will say this, with Hillary! the current frontrunner, fully 98% of democrats are insane ;-)
Witht that kind of experience, we should make him president of Puerto Rico.
What? The law says you cannot file for bankruptcy protection for 7 years. If this is true it was on non-personal corporate holdings.
It was corporate but if he's running for President on his experience as a successful business man he can't say "Look at me!" after his companies have filed Chapter 11 even once.
Unless of course he's going to bring America into bankruptcy proceedings, which may not be a bad idea ;-)
Trump is too much of an ego maniac to have that kind of power.
You mean like Obama?
as compared to the parasitic socialist fuck who currently resides in the presidential palace ?
i think i'd rather take my chance with someone who has actually done something useful in his life .
Parasitic fucks, yes. And pawns, yes. But socialist? How?
Redistributing crumbs from the capitalist economy to make sure the serfs don’t revolt doesn’t make you a socialist. Capitalism is defined by who owns the means of production – and not by how free the “markets” are, how big the government is or how regulated the economy is, but solely on who owns the shit-show. And it’s almost exclusively owned by a tiny minority (the 0,01%).
We’ve got fascism – the states of the western world have ben hijacked by the corporations/banks = corporatism = fascism. It’s still capitalism – just another version than the wet dream of ‘libertarians’.
And I will add: the version we see of capitalism right now is the natural/logical endgame of all capitalistic economies.
In a former thread someone defined capitalism as ‘a contest’ that would make sure the best got to the top. Yes, but what then? What happens after the ‘contest’ and the winner has it all and passes it on to the next generation? And the next? After centuries of capitalism you end up with everything owned by a tiny minority – voila, that’s what we got today.
Adam Smith saw this coming, and argued for substantial taxes on inheritance – inheritance is anti-meritocracy. By the way, he also argued for regulation of the market otherwise monopolies/cartels would arise per design.
Hate to rain on the parade but the next election will be cancelled and we get more of you-guess-who. That really should be what we call him since we know squat about his past.
Unconstipational is a straw-man. Coercive is the problem. Coercion is what got us here. So let's just try more of it...yes?
As a businessman operating from NY, I would suggest if he did not support democrats, he would have hit a much greater resistance in his successes. Look at just the last two weeks. The blow back from the left wing is always severe. Remember, this is cronyism and if you want to win its the only way to play. Those who stand on principles alone will not get far. As such, everyone justifies the means to an end, but seldom do we find them redeemed when there time comes. Trump is saying the right things but we have every reason to be cynical. We have been fooled before and will be fooled again.
Thanks for sharing! Great insight!
SH
Despite all that, he is an asset for bringing to light the problems that TPTB want to hide.
Or very good controlled opposition?
I cringe when people say [Just saying]
just saying
The Switch
cringe away. i'm just saying. yk?
I hate it when people say "falling down" or " rising up".
Wtih Trump, at least you get to have a great cigarette after you get screwed. At least Ronald Regan made us feel good about ourselves. How awful is it to elect these psycho RINOs and within weeks watch them screw over the nation? Can anyone even stand to watch Boehner or McConnell without wanting to vomit?
Wrong. The popularity of Trump and Sanders is they are actually talking reality versus the papsmear crapola that comes out of the mouths of the corporate polititcians from both sides. They also actually have policies that appeal to the majority of the people in their respective parties. Most people oppose the crony trade deals that get signed that do nothing for the people yet enrich the CEO and the politician that passes the bill after they are out and get massive "speaking" fees. Not the corporatists such as Bush and Hillary - never met a trade deal favorable to corporations they didnt like. Quid, meet Pro and Quo.
Southpark said it best regarding voting and elections: But Stan, don't you know, it's always between a giant douche and a turd sandwich. Nearly every election since the beginning of time has been between some douche and some turd. They're the only people who suck up enough to make it that far in politics."
"Nearly every election since the beginning of time has been between some douche and some turd. They're the only people who suck up enough to make it that far in politics."
That's clever and all, but the result of people of principle not battling more for the soul of the US by serving in office, is that we're now pretty far down the path to a grinding police/MIC state. I suppose some small percentage of principled people actually do get elected - but even they almost always get beaten down into politicos who will tow the party line.
SHIT SANDWICH! SHIT SANDWICH!
If Bernie came out today and said the fake indian Warren would be his running mate, Hillary would be toast tomorrow.
Actually Jesse Ventura would be one of the few candidates that would bring me out of my voting exile. Wild ride but why not go for Alpha for a change?Had enough of beta boys.
Miffed;-)
Why not Jesse?
He would be the only one that would deserve a vote, now that Ron Paul is out of the picture.
Plus, it would fulfill the prophetic movie "Idiocracy."
What could be better than a gun wielding ex-professional wrestler as POTUS?
I, for one, would love to see it happen.
Jesse Ventura for President!
Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho for VP!
This is funny.
I remember during the campaign leading up to Jesse Venturas being elected for governor of Minnesota,
how much of a controversial guy he was, but some things he said hit home with the people.
Don't know if Trump can get enough momentum behind him, but this kind of thing has happened before.
Ventura got elected.
Obama got elected.
We are so fed up with who are being given to vote for,
Trump could get elected.
Trump is not a man of character.
Jesse Ventura is.
His defense of the 2nd amendment alone makes him the clear leader of the pack, this is a must watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxNenz7q_eY
He is running:
http://jesseventura2016.com/
Jesse Ventura is a man of low moral character and a true piece of human shit.
anyone who would sue the widow of another man to save face is worthy of nothing but contempt.
fuck that guy and anyone who idolizes him.
Yeah, I winced as I wrote that, but Jesse is head and shoulders above Trump, and all the other candidates.
Thanks for reminding me why I don't vote.
I await Jesus Christ's return.
All the signs point to it.
"But He replied to them, "When it is evening, you say, 'It will be fair weather, for the sky is red.' "And in the morning, 'There will be a storm today, for the sky is red and threatening.' Do you know how to discern the appearance of the sky, but cannot discern the signs of the times? "An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign; and a sign will not be given it, except the sign of Jonah." And He left them and went away." - Matthew 16:2-4
JESSE VENTRUE WAS KILLED OFF IN THE FIRST FIVE MINUTES OF THE MOVIE PREDATOR FOR A REASON.
THE DONALD WAS NEVER FIRED FROM HIS TV SHOW.
Move along "Micro Muff Bio"...
Was thinking the same thing - and he'd have the balls to tell the spooks that threaten him to go f off
whereas we all know Trump's eyes will go big and he will "behave" when he gets threatened by them and is shown the actual plan of how they murdered JFK.
Hell yeah, and how about Trump as VP?!? Dims would have to raise the white flag as soon as this ticket was announced.
The Body and The Donald!
Body Hair
Miffed: I sure would like to meet you after all these years at the hedge. I am a lady libertarian just like you. I have not found a post that you have made that I disagree with. I too am in the health care field and see the runaway fraud and absolute mockery of justice that is our healthcare system. It brings me to my knees........ about once a week, pleading with God to just give me strength to go on doing good and not becoming a cynical asshole!
Anyway, if you would I could give you an alternate email address. It is just a thought.
So CHEERS to you MIffed. Love to read your posts........ and love your spore test there!
LOL
I have become that cynical asshole you have referenced lady libertarian. I would love to meet you dames because I love meeting dames. Well.... Off to the bar to meet some dames and bury my head in the sand before the meltdown. Cheers Babes !
A kindred spirit! Oh my goodness, I can't let that pass me by. So many in healthcare are still pugged into the Matrix it is so disheartening.
I would be most honored to meet you though I must confess I have crossed the line of cynical asshole awhile ago. As I feared, once crossed, the road returning is walled off. I must now journey on until I make a full circle. This has taken much longer than I had anticipated so beware! ;-)
I can't believe I can be so honored to get the respect of such long timers here considering I have very little knowledge of financial matters. I'm just a drone wage slave that punches a time clock everyday and tries to endure. Being a cynical asshole makes life in the modern healthcare corporate world just bloody hell for all involved. I'm sure they'd be happy to replace me with a robot but unfortunately, a sentient being is still needed in my field ( so far). It would be nice to connect with someone who gets it.
A bientot.
Miffed;-). Zhmiffed at gmail dot com
You have no chance to survive make your time
It’s a very good point, JRobby. The country isn’t what the media says it is. Otherwise, the people wouldn’t be voting for Trump. And people like Ann Coulter wouldn't be selling books like hotcakes and showing up as a preferred guest on Fox and other outlets. She says what the Republican base wants to hear:
On immigration, Coulter describes how both Republicans and Democrats are attempting to avoid the immigration problem, countering Chris Christie’s recent remarks that fences don’t work because humans can overcome them with the quip, “Of course fences work. That’s like saying buckets won’t work! Americans aren’t stupid — why doesn’t Christie tell that to Israel or China, because their fences work just fine.”
And one more thing: Coulter has become one of the hottest talk show guests lately because...she's praising Donald Trump!!
She's hot!
Good fences make for good neighbors
Anyone who would dare speak truth enough to inflame the leftist press will be destroyed by them. That is their job.
Republicans live in absolute fear of the press. Even the hated Fox news has become so centrist in their primary analysis that they dare not speak in offensive tones. They want to interview Obama. They want to moderate democrat primary and general election debates. They crave acceptance by the left and will lick their boots to get it. They only care about holding power, and will lie to achieve it, simply telling us that while they "appear" to be capitulating, they are only forming another cunning plan to trick the democrats and Obama. The fuckers are simply cowards. They have refused to make anything more than an illusionary stand immediately before capitulating. Now they are even admitting they are delirious that Obama is siding with them on things like this "fuck us in the ass" trade bill. They are furious at the likes of Trump or Cruze for daring to speak the truth. They claim it is inflammatory and stifles the conversation about reform...something they know nothing about except to take a bad situation and make it worse.
These fucking republicans will sell our ass so far down the river we will never find our way back. They have a cunning plan of victory through retreat. They want us to believe if we give the progressives enough rope they will hang themselves, that people will see the foolishness of their ways and put a stop to it, but it won't. Just watching them twitch over the possibility that SCOTUS would kill Obamacare was enough to show their colors while also proving their theme incorrect. The subsidies that government is providing are already so sacrosanct that the republicans were in complete terror that they would be blamed for their loss. Progressives are addicting the public to dependency and every inch they gain in this will NEVER be turned back until the whole damned thing collapses. The "people" will never blame the left for their dependency, and will try to destroy anyone who tries to take the goodies away.
Trump and Cruze will make lots of noise but they can't win against this, and any "main stream" republican will only slow, but do nothing to stop, our acceleration towards the drain.
Oldwood, good post, as usual. Could not agree more.
Trump!
OR, drag Barry, Val, Holder, Hil, Bushes, etc., etc., in front of a military tribunal and say, "YOU'RE FIRING SQUADDED!!!"
I submit that should be an AND not an OR.
I like him .. my concern is that he will turn into a Jesse Ventura as Gov. of Minnesota was. NOT SO GOOD .. said a lot of right things. but did very little to change the system .. it was ALL ABOUT JESSE . my concern is that the Donald will be the same .. hope not . but it is a concern. I despise both parties but with a gun to my head and the choice was Jeb or Donald . Donald would get the vote.. if Jeb is the choice.. I will stay home or vote third party .. I may anyway . .stop feeding this dog and pony show every four years.. we end up going the the same horrible direction . you can NOT unelect thousands of DC bureaucrats . . that is they hang on like cockroaches no matter who is president . .
THIS DOES NOT
MEAN I AM CASTING MY VOTE...
just asking the question "can he OR she sit in that chair or not?"
Donald Trump is a yes.
So Bandar Bush the IVth...so is Hitlary, maybe Bernie.
Love to hear Rubio talk..."pleasing to the ear."
Probably won't vote anyways but is fun to watch.
Always glad for the down arrows too...
<---- The Donald
<---- Bernie Sanders
None of the above. In fact I will refuse to validate an invalid system and then delude myself that I had a choice in the matter.
write in rand no matter the furvor over trump or bernie.
Dont play the game
I've written in Mickey Mouse in every presidential election since 2004.
I admit I voted for Clinton in 96 and Nader in 00 - but after those pregnant chads, I woke up to the bullshit (and 9/11 cemented it).
You get in your car, wait in line, fill out the paperwork, just to write in mickey mouse? Take a que from George Carlin this next election. You will at least have something to show for it.
Actually, it's to vote for my local supervisors and town officials because they actually have something to do with my life.
But, your are too cute by half. And fuck you fucking fucker.
hey downvoters, its probably going to be bush/clinton anyway, what are you going to do then???
edit; if you think we are deciding who runs, your head is way too far up your ass, lol
Keep crawling, you are almost to daylight!
Yet another.reason for the Trump Surge IN MY OPINION.
Interesting to read and re-read this thread actually.
Not something I normally do.
I like what trump is saying and would vote for him, i just dont trust the whole thing.
Its so much bigger than trumps ego. The global mob will talk to him if he gets too close.
We'll see if its a bait and switch.
write in rand no matter the furvor over trump or bernie.
Dont play the game
Cruel Aid...Rand Paul threw his own father under the bus and is absolutely untrustworthy. There is no way in hell that I will vote for him.
His father actually will not throw his son to the wolves as Ron Paul is PRINCIPLED. He is LOYAL to his own offspring.
But Rand Paul has NO LOYALTY and demonstrated that in 2012.
I will NOT validate an INVALID and ILLIGITAMITE SYSTEM. No way in hell will I ever vote again. I will just do my best to do everything in my power to bring the corruption and a fraud to a close.
Trajan's Column was easily to read than some of these "nested" (infected?) threads.
Usenet had a better commenting system in 1980. Gesù Cristo.
Its better Sanders than the GOP jokers who cheat their base by agreeing to everything the Dem president has to say.
Maybe if we elect a proud socialist who ADMITS hes going to rob everyone with a decent job blind, people might take notice and push back.
Not really. Everyone knows we poor folks don't pay any taxes. It's just the rich folks who pay. Politicians have told me this my whole life and they would never lie.
I'll vote straight up commie, rather than the lying, phony, traitor RINO's. Never again will I hold my nose and vote for a Republican moron such as Bob Dole, a Bush, McCain nor Romney.
The age of populism.
He probably promised each voter a free phone company…
ABH ......................Anybody But Hillary.
....[excluding Bush!]
...the choices...they're depressing, eh.
At this rate our next president will be Bernie Sanders accompanied by Pocahonta
I'll bet you Bernie Sanders is the most anti-bankster candidate in the field maybe even more than Rand Paul just because Bernie doesn't give a fuck apparently. If I remember he's not even that bad on taxes. As far as leveling the playing field and taking on the loopholes Buffet and his ilk enjoy anyway... He'd still have to deal with a GOP Congress on his most out there socialist policies.
I think I might have just talked myself into voting for Bernie Sanders :-/
GOP Congress with a skyrocketing approval rate. That won't last much longer. More importantly, it doesn't matter how long it lasts.
Lewis Black on the difference between Democrats and Republicans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqfDqDB8uzE
I still think I'm the most hilarious man alive but as far as paid performers go Lew really is Fun and Funny too...
Socialist always sound reasonable until you give them a little power. Look at Obama. A man of the people. And black.... being black he MUST empathize with working people, right?
If Bernie was elected he would go megalomaniac. He has been swatting at windmills for so long, if he thought he actually had power and a mandate, we might all be wearing Mao shirts in a month!
If you think Obama is a socialist by any definition, you haven't been paying attention. He's a straight up fascist who got into office masquerading as a socialist. Now that could prove true of Bernie Sanders in the unlikely event he held the office, but given his track record I doubt it. I'm pretty sure Bernie would veto TPP just for the fuck of it.
Beyond that a President can do far more to prevent things with vetos and EO than to implement them. I'd trade what legislation Bernie would Nuke for whatever piecemeal stuff he could get passed a GOP Congress. Take your victories where you can get them...
Hallelujah! Another ZH’er who knows there’s a difference between fascism and socialism. And that there is a tendency for the former to mimic the latter (without any ambitions to challenge the capitalistic status quo = pawns of the money masters masquerading as candidates for the people).
At this rate our next president will be Bernie Sanders accompanied by Pocahontas
hahahahahahahahahaha I can't stop laughing!!!!!
But just think . . . . who do we have NOW??
The Manchurian Candidate and Lana Wachowski
Refuse to participate...the only way to win in a rigged game is not to play,,,your vote acknowledges/approves/validates the system you're against
DON'T VOTE
Which is why I posted the Ventura piece - it has nothing to do with him running for president (it was in 2008). Ventura knew his election was useless - HE would have rather seen a NOTA choice than get elected as a protest vote. The Minnesota voters wanted Team Blue/Red to hear "YOU SUCK" loud and clear. Instead, it became the "Why MSM hates Jesse" story.
I WOULD actually vote if None Of The Above was a choice for every race, it was accurately counted and reported in the results. I would support it even if there was a candidate I did want to vote for (and presumably win) in the race. It will never, ever happen in my lifetime, though.
Bingo bruh.
America is gone.
Both the Rethuglican nomination and the US Presidency are Marco Rubio's to lose.
(FWIW I won't be voting)
Here ya go:
Hillary Lies About Legal Process, Gets Caught
Hillary really should be arrested. Like right now.
Grimaldus
Sorry.....laws are for little people. Hillary runs in the same pack as Bush, Cheney, Corzine, Dimon, Obama, Blankfein, Holder, Christie, Pelosi, Boehner, Romney, Schumer, Bloomberg, McCain, etc. All of which deserve their melons well and truly pickled.....yet continue to crush the lives of middle america for the chance to sip from the goblet of power (owned and kept full by the dark minions of the vampiric bankster families).
Don't be fooled....Gowdy, like Cruz, Paul Jr, Carson and the rest.......are all loyal 'opposition'. All these huff-n-puff 'congressional investigation panels' are nothing but clown-shows for the sheeple.
LMAO!
ILU nigel
Why can’t we find a good rich person to be our President?
sorry - wrong question. should be: why can't our system allow a not-so-rich person to become President?
Named, Cronie
HAHA, people still vote as if it really matters...
What's that noise sheep make again?
What idiots want another Bush in office? What are ya, kiddin' me?
Looks like the invasion from 30 million illegals has been noticed.
Jeb's money and name recognition may yet be liabilities.
Ok! Ok! I get it! You guys obviously prefer another Clinton or Bush. All I can say is...enjoy! (stupid fucking americans).
i think you'll find that the consensus candidate around these parts is rand paul
maybe.
But I'd go with Sanders over Paul.
Sanders may be the least hyper-interventionist and the most willing and able to resist Likud.
Rand has shown he is willing to absolutely sell his soul, even unto Sheldon Adelson, to get permission from the Zionist Power Matrix to be President.
Yeah, vote a communist in. Moron.
the other options are better, stupid fuck?
Still dwelling in your Mom's basement are you. Socialism is for losers.
Sanders aside, Rand Paul is an opportunistic sell-out. The only thing he got from his father is his last name.
I think Rand is closer to his father's philosophy (libertarian) than not. Check out who the donors to his campaign are - they are mostly grass root contributions. That's the way he won in Kentucky for senate against alot of big money going for his opponents in the republican primary and main election. I think he is trying not to piss off the RINOs to much but I think if he can could win he would really shake the shit up in Washington, probably as much has Sanders would if he won (which would be a real cluster fuck).
If he's such a grass root sorta guy, what's he doin on the end of that ziocock? He can fly straight to Israhell
Corprotism is for winners!!! YEAH!!!!!
"mom's basement" eh?
How original.
Social sure works in Scandinavia, but I guess you prefer Hillary or Jeb, and the status quo.
Stupid cunt.
Singapore and Hong Kong are much nicer than Cuba, Corporatism is much better than Communism, ask Vladimir and 87% of Russian voters, they've "been there done that" already.
It matters two shits what label you put on an economy. Socialism, Capitalism, Fascim, Communism... etc... What matters is how the pie is divided and is it getting bigger or smaller? It can happen under all of these "models". What matters is how the laws are set up, how the courts work (or dont), trust in the system and its "fairness" (or at least peoples belief that it is fair or rules based). All of these systems can be corrupted to deliver the fruits of an economy to a chosen few and screw the average person.
You’re right and you’re not.
It’s obvious that all economic systems can be abused.
However, it’s also a good idea to have a language to describe different economic systems.
We’re living in a CAPITALIST economy: “Capitalism is an economic system and a mode of production in which trade, industries, and the means of production are largely or entirely privately owned”.
You can have many different forms of capitalism. Free markets are NOT DEFINING of capitalism – some argue that free markets are more efficient (for the economy as a whole), but it’s not defining of whether or not it’s a capitalist economic system. The size of the state or the interference of government is likewise NOT DEFINING of capitalism. You can have a huge state and massive government interference and still have capitalism – like in fascist states.
Many on ZH – I guess mostly proponents of the US version of ‘libertarianism’ (I’m a Europe based libertarian = I’m a left-wing anarchist) – see all statism or all form of government as equal not capitalism (= socialism/communism/crony-capitalism etc.). That’s not true. Capitalism is basically just whether or not the economy is based on private ownership of the means of production or not. Since just about everything is owned by a small ‘elite’ the system fits perfect with the definition of capitalism. It might not be the version of capitalism that some are dreaming about but it’s still capitalism.
Everything the US state does is on behalf of it’s corporate (capitalist) masters.
And before some ZH-libertarian goes berserk in a Rand(t) about the impossibility of a left-wing libertarian: “Remember that the United States is out of the world on this type of thing. Britain is to a limited extent, but the United States is on Mars. So here, the term 'libertarian' means the opposite of what it always meant in history. 'Libertarian' throughout European history meant 'socialist-anarchist.' The worker's movement--the socialist movement--sort of broke into 2 branches, one statist, one anti-statist. The statist branch led to Bolshevism and Lenin and Trotsky and so on; the anti-statist branch, which included left-Marxists like Rosa Luxumberg, kind of merged with a big strain of anarchism into what was called 'libertarian socialism.' So 'libertarian' in Europe always meant 'socialist.' Here, it means ultra-Ayn Rand or Cato Institute or something like that. But that's a special US usage having to do with the--there are a lot of things special here."
- taken from "Conversations with History”, Noam Chomsky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ghoXQxdk6s&feature=related
And what do you call a 'system' where the production of 'capital' is by a select group tied to the gov't? You definition of 'Capitalism' is obsolete. What you have when central banks create capital' without any labor and distribute it unequally is not 'Capitalism'.
Maybe if you're part of the 0,1%: http://edition.cnn.com/2013/09/30/world/asia/hong-kong-poverty-line/ (I know, not the best source - but the reality is likely worse = more poor people).
Sounds perfect. We have a long line of assholes who have made it their goal to piss off every nation and religion (including former allies) in the world, and now we will elect someone who will insist the best defense against the rage is sticking our head in the sand and promising we will never do it again.
People better figure out we are fresh out of friends and regardless of our past, and especially of our past, we had best keep our knuckles fisted and ready. But this is not to say we should continue as we have, saving the world and intervening in other people's business. I want to waste tax money on national defense to protect OUR soil....just like I have wasted it on filling my safes with guns and ammo....hoping I will never be forced to use them, but never letting anyone think I will hesitate to use them. I sure as fuck won't extend my life span by walking around waving guns at everyone I see, but I neither want them to see me as weak. America currently looks still relatively strong militarily but stupid and clumsy. We are watching, as is the rest of the world, while we strip our military of its soldier leaders and replacing them with political stooges. We are fucking our vets at the VA, and firing another 10%, with no plans as far as I can tell for any real defensive strategy...other than to lead from behind...drone a few folks from time to time and try and bribe them with US dollars that are quickly losing their international appeal.
Nope. Things are fucked up enough without Bernie.
Ted Cruz seems to be the only one with a functioning brain.
But then there's his Goldman Sachs wife.
hmm, tell me more.
"She is currently taking leave from her position as head of the Southwest Region in the Investment Management Division of Goldman, Sachs & Co. and previously worked in the White House for Condoleezza Rice and in New York as an investment banker".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz#Personal_life
WTF? Cruz is a sellout lousy POS. Sad to see any ZHer thinking this guy has any honesty or integrity at all.
Come on...wake the fuck up.
Yeah, but do you think you guys can shorten your campaigning by about 18 months or so?
And I'm almost certain it wouldn't change the outcome anyway.
+1 Brits do a six week campaign for parliament! the US Presidential campaigns... well, soon we'll face the start of the 2028 before the start of the 2024, at this pace. but Element, money. it takes time to spend all that campaign money
Same here G, 4 weeks, maybe 5 weeks, 6 tops. Americans are fools for accepting this shit. 18 months of useless time-wasting annoying CRAP. What the hell for?! :D
What for?
i) Raising more money to be 'spent' during the selection process and ii) cheap entertainment for those that still believe there is a substantial difference between the Rs and the Ds.
Like I said, what for? :D