Definitely not saying Trump is great but one thing I have noticed is that the amount of bad press coverage that a candidate gets is directly relational to the level of dislike/fear that the MSM and political establishment have for that candidate. It is very clear that the establishment does not want Trump to succeed. What is also clear is that there are many here that take what the MSM spews out as factual. A shame really. The fact is that the MSM, the political establishment and TPTB do not want anyone even near a powerful political office that they have not fully vetted. Hence we end up with establishment force fed choices like Hitlery and Bush, etc. This is also the reason we have had three two term Presidents in a row. 'Better the devil you know.....'. I wrote the following some time ago and it is still true:
by r101958 on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 11:24
I'll say it once (last year before the elections) and I'll say it again now:
"Current politics is best represented by a two headed dragon. Politicians pay lip service to opposing ideologies but both the Republican and Democratic parties are part of the same big government dragon body. The body is moving in one direction; bigger and more powerful government. More control over the electorate. Having the two parties serves a greater purpose though....it divides the populace (sheeple?) into two camps that are always at each others' throat. This tactic is called divide and conquer. Until we wake up and get away from the 'Repubs this....' or 'Dems that....' blame game then we will be slowly boiled...just like the frog in the frying pan...all while the dragon stands by watching and laughing."
You can be sure that Trump ius on top in that poll because the liberal MSM considers him to be unelectable. Therefore they want the rest of the sheeple conservatives to nominate him so that Hillary can crush him. The MSM is most concerned about Rand Pal and Ted Cruz. Why? Because they make sense and don't appear to be as "crazy" as "The Donald." This is why they ignored Ron Paul in '12.
This logic doesn't extend to Lindsey Graham. What a loser. The MSM can't vilify everybody by ignoring them.
THere is a lot to be said for Trump. If all he did was stop illegal immigration, it would be worth it.
I saw that the a*hole head of the Republican party telephoned Trump and asked him to be more sensitive to the needs of the criminal invaders. Said that the party had been working very hard to cultivate Hispanic votes and to be "inclusive." Sorry. Ann Coulter has it figured out. The Hispanics will never vote for the Pubs, so they are foolish to wate their breath on them. I am waiting for the pubs to play the race card in the form of....dare I say it...'at least one third of you blacks and one quarter of formerly middle class white are in your current predicament because of illegal immigrants.
Trump for president: Reminds me of the movies "Being There" and "Idiocracy".........I loved those films because there was so much truth in them that people can't accept.
I don't even think FOX has the audacity to run with the self made man meme on this one, the run the government like a business model propaganda that Dubya used has no legs. Remember Dubya "The Dick" Cheney and Rummy conducting the Iraqi invasion like a business with 40,000 troops and then standing around has chaos insued, because they had not thought thru the basic ramifications of the insuing power vacume. Or the soldier who was televised exposing the lack of basic protective gear for our troops, add the financial collapse and head in the sand, kicking the health care demographic, economic time bomb down the road, etc etc.
They can't re-use that meme again. Can they? Shit... What am I thinking FOX + the Ditto Heads..... Oh fuck, Oh Fuck, Oh FUCK!!!!
"Please For Gods sake Please" I beg FOX News Nation to come up with something better or we are going to be stuck with and by Hitlery
Oh God I am going to be sick again................
'W' couldn't run a lemonaide stand in the desert. Neither could his POS VP. Both are coward war-mongering chicken-hawks kissing the asses of the establishment. Woe to them both as the blood on their hands can only buy a ticket to HELL....
His father and uncle created a real estate empire of some 80,000 + rental apartments. Trump just cashed them in. I think he's a boorish clown. That being said, he is saying what no other Repub candidate is willing to say. And, all of his remarks on immigration are true. What a conumdrum! A buffoon saying the "right stuff".
President Trump may be marginally better than a military coup with (formal) suspension of Constitution.
At this point, there's not much to lose either way.
FWIW, and very anecdotally, the prospect of a US military coup comes up with some regularity within my son's social circle (30-something LEOs in the Intermountain West); the topic also comes up in my social circle (60-something haters of the USG).
He means "self made millionaire" in the sense that most people use it in this country; to describe somebody who was born with money, and got even more after going to Ivy school. Think Romney, Gates, Zuckerberg, etc., etc...
Self made on whose back? How many of his companies filed bankruptcy? Somewhere in the area of seven. The reason the banksters are flooding the field is to neutralize Rand and any moveent against the FED. He is the only one who comes close to knowing what is liberty.
If DT was elected he would soon figure out the truth about the FED. IMO, the days of central banking are numbered. And each individual involved with them knows he has a bulls-eye between his eyes!
Hedgeless, I like him ,but his stance on black rifles and wanting to ban them,doesnt sit real well with me
Here’s what he wrote about gun control:
It’s often argued that the American murder rate is high because guns are more available here than in other countries. After a tragedy like the massacre at Columbine High School, anyone could feel that it is too easy for Americans to get their hands on weapons. But nobody has a good solution. This is another issue where you see the extremes of the two existing major parties. Democrats want to confiscate all guns, which is a dumb idea because only the law-abiding citizens would turn in their guns and the bad guys would be the only ones left armed. The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions. I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I also support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With today’s Internet technology we should be able to tell within seventy-two hours if a potential gun owner has a record.
We've done two deals he was involved with. Both times he performed absolutely in the way he promised. He'll even bend to make a deal work for everyone. I'm sure as hell going to support him so long as he's in the race and he doesn't do something completely insane like stick his dick in the mashed potatoes on network TV.
Luciferian Oligarchs, own them. Real important torches and pitchforks head in the right direction when the time comes. We'll probably need shovels to dig them out of their bunkers too.
Calculate how much ZioJew money (including Goldman, JP Morgan, BlackRock, Defense Contractors, BigPharma, Credit Card companies, et al.) money is going to candidates.
Whoever collects most ZioJew $$$ will be nominated.
BlackRock's Larry Fink is more powerful than the POTUS, a shadow government & king unto himself:
Find the weakness in a person - a society even, then appropriate that person whole, with the lure of cheap money. The 'talent' has worked flawlessly for 5000+ years...
He's the one candidate that isn't owned or taking donations...I meant to say payoffs.
This country is on its last legs...why wouldn't you give him a fair shake? Because he doesn't have POLITICAL experience? News flash, it's all that hopey changy political experience and payoffs that got us to where we are.
Love this...non-establishment no bull talker gets the attention...just like Bernie Sanders on the left. People are tired of career politicians and their bulllshit politically correct behavior.
Totally agree, but his appeal is that he's anti establishment. I'm no Socialist or Bernie fan, but then I think Boehner and Mconnel are the same turds in different clothes.
Just think how pissed the media and the republican establishment are about this. They've been working overtime in herd fashion to demonize him and it's backfiring on the fuckers. I hope he continues to piss off just about every one of them. They are going as apoplectic over Trump as they are the confederate flag.
I think you misunderstand the meaning of voting for Trump in this context: most people can't stand Trump (even dumbass Republicans), 'cos they know he is a blow-hard, a joke, a bad toupee-wearing wannabe and serial failure.
Yet when given the choice between Trump and Jeb Bush (or any other R blowhard trying to look legit, like F'ing Rand Paul), people will pick Trump, just to show how much they despise the rest.
You might watch a speech or two before bloviating. There is one on utube before the SC Freedom Summit at which the other usual candidates spoke. I can say it's the first time in my life I've witnessed a presidential contender at a public event say things like "I don't give a shit about lobbyists" or calling the Washington press corps "sleazebags". That's the stuff that gets crowds going. It ain't because they are picking Trump because they've thought through Jeb Bush. Trump gave a very populist speech.
I admit that my interpretation was but one of many possible ones, especially given how fake these polls are, how easily gamed, and how easily influenced the general public is.
Regardless, I think that Trump has been widely regarded as a buffoon for a long time. It is hard to shake that kind of image, and one flowery speech alone certainly isn't going to do it.
Like most controlled opposition figures, he has no consistency and I never see any bite follow his bark - but no matter what, the mainstream image he has been given is that of a clown. His rare attempts to escape that role are not very convincing.
What this tells me is.....Jeb will be the Republican nominee.
Trump is a clown and a sideshow. The Republican MIC will not allow it.
Rand Paul is only for the red meat crowd. Once again the Republican MIC will not allow it.
Take out those two on this list and you have JEB.
Plus.....he has the hispanic vote locked in.....as much as a Republican can have it. Pro-Amnesty, Pro-Open Borders....which means....Pro-Big Crony Business.
Millions of blacks believed that a black president would make things better. The average black household is 30% less wealthy than when he took office, and cities like Detroit have turned into wastlands.
Now they've been led to believe that banning the Confederate Battle flag will end racism and make their lives better. I guarantee you than the opposite will be true. The Republicans need to work the meme that Obama hasn't been good for blacks or the middle class, only the banksters and large corporations.
Yes, excellent take. The Republicans should make the case that Obama is too far to the right in helping big business and rich people (which is true)......and then what? Nominate someone even to the right of Obama? Walker, Bush, Kasich???
Yeah, I'm sure they'll all be a godsend to the middle class....haha haha
I have a feeling that the Donald is a tool for the D team. Sent him in to get the R team to fight amongst themselves. The Donald loves him some Clintons after all. I don't know just my opinion!
I just don't believe Jeb Bush will be the nominee. I understand it's possible and the meme here at ZH, but the sheep are a bit disgruntled and the old farts are dying off. Sanders may surprise as well. After all, Obamao came out of nowhere to upset her apple cart last time.
I'd like to believe he won't be, but the truth is the GOP and its base will all flock to Jeb when they see Hilarity taking root in the empty skin sacks of the democratic party.
Just like they did for McCain (AWFUL!)
Just like they did for Romney (THE GUY THAT LOST TO AWFUL!)
Third party. Rand/Trump. Turn Trump loose on the entrenched Agencies and let him negotiate treaties. Then stay away from hot tubes, windows and nailguns.
Staying home is just what they want! Then only the connected planners would vote., and get just what they want.
If bush gets the nomination,which I doubt, then I am 100% on board with a Rand Paul /Ben Carson/ Trump ticket-any combination, any order.
May Nikki haley also get her clock cleaned on Election Day as well -(didn't bother checking her spelling because she isn't worth It)
It's a sign of desperation from the people who still believe in the system. Him, and Sanders in the other team... It tells you a lot about the hidden stresses accumulated in our society. However, the simple fact that the old coot Lindsey Graham made the list is, beyond its wild entertainment value, the surest sign that we are FUBAR as a nation.
I'd be SHOCKED if 75% of the puppets in congress didn't regularly boink children or participate in even fouler stuff. And as for Lin-z Graham, if that guy isn't a homo child predator, I will literally eat my shoe.
Yep. And a big CHICKEN ASS PUSSY Chickenhawk who has no conscience to send someone else's kid to war. I say give the geezer a Gun, some ammo, a mess kit, and a tent and drop him in ISIS territory. Let him lead by example...
AoJ, everything about the End of Empire is embodied in the electoral dog-and-pony show currently getting under way: the vast sums of money pouring in as "campaign contributions," more rightly called "influence peddling;" the Hillary/Jeb matchup already assumed, with the election still seventeen months away; media outlets proclaiming their biases and supporting one side or the other, rather than defending the truth; and voters sick of the whole corrupt charade already.
And if it does come down to Jeb or Hillary, we will get to freely vote for (a) a family dynasty that used its great wealth to buy political power, or (b) a family dynasty that used its political power to acquire great wealth.
Have we all forgotten 2012 where every GOP running took his 20 minutes leading the polls (except for the one person who should have won, RP)? Only to land on Mitt!
Bush/Clinton and yes, we are all taking crazy pills.
Ok, he is an ass clown with a dyed Wombat pelt for hair. BUT, he did step out and say that unemployment is 20% not 5% and that ZIRP has caused a number of bubbles that is good for him and the wealthy but bad for the rest of us.
Don't expect the other flock of elitist fraternity scumbags to say anything like that. Ever.
Never thought much of the Trumpster, thought he was a pompous ass. Watching him call these idiots, idiots, giving it right back to these stupid reporters, calling out these illegals I got to say I like him. Could he turn out to be a total disaster? Sure but so would anyone else in the race. Phuck it, I vote Trump if I bother to vote which I probably won't.
look I will vote for him in the primary, 'cause he's of european stock, a white male ..gender and race do matter.
oh shit I forgot I am not a republican, well then I will sit home and think good things about him those huffer's here on ZH swung my vote to him with the idiot level comments haters I tell ya haters...lol
Are you guys going to completely ignore the entertainment value??
We need the diversions?
The direct and indirect costs of US political campaigning, as it is called, is probably 5% of Amurican GDP.
If the "campaigns" were six weeks long, several US TeeVee channels would have to shut down, and many children would go to bed hungry.
Definitely not saying Trump is great but one thing I have noticed is that the amount of bad press coverage that a candidate gets is directly relational to the level of dislike/fear that the MSM and political establishment have for that candidate. It is very clear that the establishment does not want Trump to succeed. What is also clear is that there are many here that take what the MSM spews out as factual. A shame really. The fact is that the MSM, the political establishment and TPTB do not want anyone even near a powerful political office that they have not fully vetted. Hence we end up with establishment force fed choices like Hitlery and Bush, etc. This is also the reason we have had three two term Presidents in a row. 'Better the devil you know.....'. I wrote the following some time ago and it is still true:
by r101958
on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 11:24
I'll say it once (last year before the elections) and I'll say it again now:
"Current politics is best represented by a two headed dragon. Politicians pay lip service to opposing ideologies but both the Republican and Democratic parties are part of the same big government dragon body. The body is moving in one direction; bigger and more powerful government. More control over the electorate. Having the two parties serves a greater purpose though....it divides the populace (sheeple?) into two camps that are always at each others' throat. This tactic is called divide and conquer. Until we wake up and get away from the 'Repubs this....' or 'Dems that....' blame game then we will be slowly boiled...just like the frog in the frying pan...all while the dragon stands by watching and laughing."
And .....the sheep continue bleating.
"The more the Media hates you the more Vox Popullii will love you."
Not a paid professional...have a friend who is though and he thinks he's a hopeless buffoon
Which goes to show you what paid political professionals are worth...
I hope you don't mind if I use this one.
+500
You can be sure that Trump ius on top in that poll because the liberal MSM considers him to be unelectable. Therefore they want the rest of the sheeple conservatives to nominate him so that Hillary can crush him. The MSM is most concerned about Rand Pal and Ted Cruz. Why? Because they make sense and don't appear to be as "crazy" as "The Donald." This is why they ignored Ron Paul in '12.
This logic doesn't extend to Lindsey Graham. What a loser. The MSM can't vilify everybody by ignoring them.
THere is a lot to be said for Trump. If all he did was stop illegal immigration, it would be worth it.
I saw that the a*hole head of the Republican party telephoned Trump and asked him to be more sensitive to the needs of the criminal invaders. Said that the party had been working very hard to cultivate Hispanic votes and to be "inclusive." Sorry. Ann Coulter has it figured out. The Hispanics will never vote for the Pubs, so they are foolish to wate their breath on them. I am waiting for the pubs to play the race card in the form of....dare I say it...'at least one third of you blacks and one quarter of formerly middle class white are in your current predicament because of illegal immigrants.
This is for you r101958
Tomorrow a stranger will say with masterly good sense precisely what we have thought and felt all the time.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson-
“Self reliance”
Bravo!!
But but... without the Rep/Dem dichotomy, what would we do with all that anger! I mean, I know there will be football. But is that enough???
Robert Pondiscio @rpondiscio
If you're 52 or younger, you've never voted in an election where a Bush or Clinton wasn't a candidate, running mate or in the Adminstration.
Trump for president: Reminds me of the movies "Being There" and "Idiocracy".........I loved those films because there was so much truth in them that people can't accept.
What idiots want another Bush or Clinton in office? What are ya, kiddin' me?
Fixed it
Most that inherit wind up losing it all. He hasn't. Just saying. Rand is my man in the race.
I don't even think FOX has the audacity to run with the self made man meme on this one, the run the government like a business model propaganda that Dubya used has no legs. Remember Dubya "The Dick" Cheney and Rummy conducting the Iraqi invasion like a business with 40,000 troops and then standing around has chaos insued, because they had not thought thru the basic ramifications of the insuing power vacume. Or the soldier who was televised exposing the lack of basic protective gear for our troops, add the financial collapse and head in the sand, kicking the health care demographic, economic time bomb down the road, etc etc.
They can't re-use that meme again. Can they? Shit... What am I thinking FOX + the Ditto Heads..... Oh fuck, Oh Fuck, Oh FUCK!!!!
"Please For Gods sake Please" I beg FOX News Nation to come up with something better or we are going to be stuck with and by Hitlery
Oh God I am going to be sick again................
'W' couldn't run a lemonaide stand in the desert. Neither could his POS VP. Both are coward war-mongering chicken-hawks kissing the asses of the establishment. Woe to them both as the blood on their hands can only buy a ticket to HELL....
Not true. There is almost zero downwards "mobility" from the top 1%.
We're living in a neofeudal world. Lords or serfs by birth.
His father and uncle created a real estate empire of some 80,000 + rental apartments. Trump just cashed them in. I think he's a boorish clown. That being said, he is saying what no other Repub candidate is willing to say. And, all of his remarks on immigration are true. What a conumdrum! A buffoon saying the "right stuff".
Your description is right on, BUT he may be the only one to man up to the Washington nonsense - we need some ugly!
President Trump may be marginally better than a military coup with (formal) suspension of Constitution.
At this point, there's not much to lose either way.
FWIW, and very anecdotally, the prospect of a US military coup comes up with some regularity within my son's social circle (30-something LEOs in the Intermountain West); the topic also comes up in my social circle (60-something haters of the USG).
He means "self made millionaire" in the sense that most people use it in this country; to describe somebody who was born with money, and got even more after going to Ivy school. Think Romney, Gates, Zuckerberg, etc., etc...
Tell the Donald to avoid air travel, construction sites, hot tubs and balconies. On second thought, those are the only places he probably ever is!
The building tradesmen have a problem with Donald Trump?
News to me...
You gotta be fucking kidding me.
Nope -- it totally makes sense to me.
Another Made up pole by the Circus Masters. I have never met a Jeb supporter.
If I had to pick the R ticket I would guess it would be Romney (yes he will run) / Rubio
The D ticket will be O'Malley or Webb with a Minority / Female on the undercard.
I met a Jeb supporter out in Newberry. He said he liked him cause he was "moderate." His wife wore the pants.
"His wife wore the pants."
Such has been the case with the majority of men since the fall from grace in Eden.
"And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner." - 1 Timothy 2:14
Adam let Eve wear the pants.
Eve let Satan in her pants. That act was as low as if she had sex with the family dog.
The power of pussy? Bet he didn''t get much IMO...
The Jeb "supporters" are in the Diebold database!
Self made on whose back? How many of his companies filed bankruptcy? Somewhere in the area of seven. The reason the banksters are flooding the field is to neutralize Rand and any moveent against the FED. He is the only one who comes close to knowing what is liberty.
When you think about it, running companies into bankruptcy gives him a lot of experience in how we expect our presidents to govern.
If DT was elected he would soon figure out the truth about the FED. IMO, the days of central banking are numbered. And each individual involved with them knows he has a bulls-eye between his eyes!
Trump is a nutjob; he'll bow out eventually even if he's in the lead. Think Perot.
I don't necessarily see this as a bad thing if he goes after Federal employees...
I think you are mistaking that girlfriend for Trump's Japanese Jewish girlfriend. Her name was Sosumi.
Did you touch his hair?
Did it bite you?
Yes, yes and Jesus Christ my Hand is Missing
It will take a very talented sculptor to do justice to his hair-do on a presidential bust of President Trump.
Just wait till the primaries and the Trumpster plays his Ace in the hole and pulls Obama's birth certificate out from under that comb-over.
Sheriff Joe has it.
Will likely get him a chief of staff position.
(shut up you mind in the gutter slimers)
(Copy boy!!!!!! Need a rewrite!!!!!!!!)
I concur.
Were you sitting in the middle of the ski session? Who was the third man?
Hedgeless, I like him ,but his stance on black rifles and wanting to ban them,doesnt sit real well with me
Here’s what he wrote about gun control:
I'm all for a "War on Gun Ownership"!
But not until we win the "War on Drugs"...and the "Terror War" too!
Among other evils caused by being disarmed, it renders you contemptible:
The only war worth winning now is the war on the status quo. Once that war is won, things will naturally fall into place...
Any candidate clean enough to pass the smell test isn't qualified for the office.
A run off between Trump and Hillary turns into who has the least skeletons in their closet.
Hillary for Prison 2016
http://www.cafepress.com/+hillary_clinton_prison_2016_round_car_magnet,1...
We've done two deals he was involved with. Both times he performed absolutely in the way he promised. He'll even bend to make a deal work for everyone. I'm sure as hell going to support him so long as he's in the race and he doesn't do something completely insane like stick his dick in the mashed potatoes on network TV.
Insane? Pfffttt. You need to watch Japan television.
Skiing
serf alert
Luciferian Oligarchs, own them. Real important torches and pitchforks head in the right direction when the time comes. We'll probably need shovels to dig them out of their bunkers too.
Get the people on that list on a Malaysian Airline STAT!
Not saying much for those taking part in this poll, barring those who voted for RAND!
Amen brother!
It makes perfect sense for Trump to be CEO of US when it officially goes bankrupt.
Holy shit! Comment of the week right there.
Yep.
Then, when he writes his next book, he can start it at Chapter 11...
"I figured out mine...now it's time for you to figure out yours!"
Too true unfortunately.
"A Few Good Men" has failed. The guy actually knows what it means to spend a hundred million and ask a few questions first.
Still has most of his hair...
Enough with the Comb-overs.
Just go to a Bosely Clinic; and relocate a few thousan follicles!!!
It's so easy.
Calculate how much ZioJew money (including Goldman, JP Morgan, BlackRock, Defense Contractors, BigPharma, Credit Card companies, et al.) money is going to candidates.
Whoever collects most ZioJew $$$ will be nominated.
BlackRock's Larry Fink is more powerful than the POTUS, a shadow government & king unto himself:
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2010/04/fink-201004
Find the weakness in a person - a society even, then appropriate that person whole, with the lure of cheap money. The 'talent' has worked flawlessly for 5000+ years...
Wasn't Larry Fink one of the Three Stooges?
Larry Fine in fact.
protocol 6 - Appoint puppet leaders who can be controlled by blackmail
protocol 7 - Replace royal rule with socialist rule, then communism, then despotism
Well here's some truth.
So Jared Kushner married Trumps daughter, right. Total douche, right, yea I concur. But Jared Kushner owns NY Observer.
Is it such a stretch that Kushner own ZH too?
FUCK YOU JEW BOY!
"Hopey McChange v2.0, The Great White Hope"
He's the one candidate that isn't owned or taking donations...I meant to say payoffs.
This country is on its last legs...why wouldn't you give him a fair shake? Because he doesn't have POLITICAL experience? News flash, it's all that hopey changy political experience and payoffs that got us to where we are.
Well Yeah!! It's either that or be cast in Dealey Plaza II the sequel.
No kidding, also we can't have Hillary winning no matter what. I don't want that woman to be president no way in hell.
WTH They forgot my dog 'old shep'.
Jeb and Rubio are a piece of sh*t and Christies is marginally better.
The USSA does not have real elections anyway.
if you believe christie's marginally better, i have a bridge to sell you
Is that bridge in a usable condition? What's the ROI/IRR?
well, the ROI can't be that great, as the toll lanes are temporarily shut
Not when Christe is walking across it. It'll support his weight, but you can't get around him.
if they were truly that pissed, would Jeb still be number 2?
As of this poll, we have a TV Clown and another "Compassionate Conservative" as the leading candidates.
Talk about a dearth of talent.
Love this...non-establishment no bull talker gets the attention...just like Bernie Sanders on the left. People are tired of career politicians and their bulllshit politically correct behavior.
Bernie's not a career politician? Do tell?
Sanders Bullshit Meter Goes Off the Charts in Portland, Maine
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/07/07/sanders-bullshit-meter-goes-off-t...
Sanders is perhaps less of an iconoclast than his supporters suppose.
Promising more sunshine, puppy dogs, and free ice cream is no way to unfuck what decades of 2 party kleptocracy has fucked up.
Al Gore literally claimed the Democrats would cure cancer in his acceptance speech.
Totally agree, but his appeal is that he's anti establishment. I'm no Socialist or Bernie fan, but then I think Boehner and Mconnel are the same turds in different clothes.
Bernie "Never a worked a day in his life" Sanders
Bernie "Let's double up every social program" Sanders
Bernie "Free college credits for votes" Sanders
Bernie "Socialism just hasn't been done right yet" Sanders
Bernie "What difference does it make between me and Hillary" Sanders
Bernie "Urinal cake taster" Sanders
Bernie "Used underwear salesman" Sanders
Bernie "Vomit consistency tester" Sanders
Bernie "Have I been bought and paid for by a Vermont based hedge fund?" Sanders
Just think how pissed the media and the republican establishment are about this. They've been working overtime in herd fashion to demonize him and it's backfiring on the fuckers. I hope he continues to piss off just about every one of them. They are going as apoplectic over Trump as they are the confederate flag.
It is, the wake up is finally happening. Now we need to keep lighting those ["brush fires"] so that the speed of it intensifies.
I think you misunderstand the meaning of voting for Trump in this context: most people can't stand Trump (even dumbass Republicans), 'cos they know he is a blow-hard, a joke, a bad toupee-wearing wannabe and serial failure.
Yet when given the choice between Trump and Jeb Bush (or any other R blowhard trying to look legit, like F'ing Rand Paul), people will pick Trump, just to show how much they despise the rest.
You might watch a speech or two before bloviating. There is one on utube before the SC Freedom Summit at which the other usual candidates spoke. I can say it's the first time in my life I've witnessed a presidential contender at a public event say things like "I don't give a shit about lobbyists" or calling the Washington press corps "sleazebags". That's the stuff that gets crowds going. It ain't because they are picking Trump because they've thought through Jeb Bush. Trump gave a very populist speech.
I admit that my interpretation was but one of many possible ones, especially given how fake these polls are, how easily gamed, and how easily influenced the general public is.
Regardless, I think that Trump has been widely regarded as a buffoon for a long time. It is hard to shake that kind of image, and one flowery speech alone certainly isn't going to do it.
Like most controlled opposition figures, he has no consistency and I never see any bite follow his bark - but no matter what, the mainstream image he has been given is that of a clown. His rare attempts to escape that role are not very convincing.
I think those numbers are the actual numbers of people asked.
What this tells me is.....Jeb will be the Republican nominee.
Trump is a clown and a sideshow. The Republican MIC will not allow it.
Rand Paul is only for the red meat crowd. Once again the Republican MIC will not allow it.
Take out those two on this list and you have JEB.
Plus.....he has the hispanic vote locked in.....as much as a Republican can have it. Pro-Amnesty, Pro-Open Borders....which means....Pro-Big Crony Business.
Yep.....it's Jeb vs. Hitlary
Millions of blacks believed that a black president would make things better. The average black household is 30% less wealthy than when he took office, and cities like Detroit have turned into wastlands.
Now they've been led to believe that banning the Confederate Battle flag will end racism and make their lives better. I guarantee you than the opposite will be true. The Republicans need to work the meme that Obama hasn't been good for blacks or the middle class, only the banksters and large corporations.
and the winner is Swamp Bush.
He plays a record amount of Golf and has a white mother.
Blank when he wants to be and Muslim when he needs to be.
I am not sure at all that they would believe things would be better under a republican, i don't.
Yes, excellent take. The Republicans should make the case that Obama is too far to the right in helping big business and rich people (which is true)......and then what? Nominate someone even to the right of Obama? Walker, Bush, Kasich???
Yeah, I'm sure they'll all be a godsend to the middle class....haha haha
Bernie 2016
"Yep.....it's Jeb vs. Hitlary"
downvotes on this PERFECT ZH comment?
For giving Hitler a bad name.
every single candidate will proudly put Israel's interests ahead of those of the United States.
Every.
Single.
One.
Make that Luciferian Oligarchs interests. Israel is just another Oligarch puppet state.
You are absolutely correct. Trump is just firing up the GOP base. Sanders is just firing up the DEM base. Don't vote, it only encourages them.
Don't vote, it only encourages them. Exactamundo
I have a feeling that the Donald is a tool for the D team. Sent him in to get the R team to fight amongst themselves. The Donald loves him some Clintons after all. I don't know just my opinion!
I just don't believe Jeb Bush will be the nominee. I understand it's possible and the meme here at ZH, but the sheep are a bit disgruntled and the old farts are dying off. Sanders may surprise as well. After all, Obamao came out of nowhere to upset her apple cart last time.
Perhaps they have Ronald Reagan's out of wedlock love-child daughter stashed away somewhere, just in case Jeb flops?
I'd like to believe he won't be, but the truth is the GOP and its base will all flock to Jeb when they see Hilarity taking root in the empty skin sacks of the democratic party.
Just like they did for McCain (AWFUL!)
Just like they did for Romney (THE GUY THAT LOST TO AWFUL!)
You're exactly right, I'm sure the Oligarchs already have a way to eliminate Trump. They're just waiting for the right time to use it.
Ah, life in a phony republic.
Third party. Rand/Trump. Turn Trump loose on the entrenched Agencies and let him negotiate treaties. Then stay away from hot tubes, windows and nailguns.
That's when I encourage people to vote for a 3rd Party just to stick it up their asses. Either that or everyone stay home.
Staying home is just what they want! Then only the connected planners would vote., and get just what they want.
If bush gets the nomination,which I doubt, then I am 100% on board with a Rand Paul /Ben Carson/ Trump ticket-any combination, any order.
May Nikki haley also get her clock cleaned on Election Day as well -(didn't bother checking her spelling because she isn't worth It)
I sense anger in this country, and change coming.
Even holding my nose I'll never vote for another bush.
IMO Jeb is a liberal POS from a LONG blood line of warmongering COWARDS. If he had a SOUL he would bow-out for Rand or Trump..
It's a sign of desperation from the people who still believe in the system. Him, and Sanders in the other team... It tells you a lot about the hidden stresses accumulated in our society. However, the simple fact that the old coot Lindsey Graham made the list is, beyond its wild entertainment value, the surest sign that we are FUBAR as a nation.
I've said it before: Lindsey Graham just fucking looks like a pedophile. Not saying he is, but he gives off one creepy ass vibe.
I'd be SHOCKED if 75% of the puppets in congress didn't regularly boink children or participate in even fouler stuff. And as for Lin-z Graham, if that guy isn't a homo child predator, I will literally eat my shoe.
Yep. And a big CHICKEN ASS PUSSY Chickenhawk who has no conscience to send someone else's kid to war. I say give the geezer a Gun, some ammo, a mess kit, and a tent and drop him in ISIS territory. Let him lead by example...
Graham got one percent. C'mon.
Enough to become absolutely ludicrous...
AoJ, everything about the End of Empire is embodied in the electoral dog-and-pony show currently getting under way: the vast sums of money pouring in as "campaign contributions," more rightly called "influence peddling;" the Hillary/Jeb matchup already assumed, with the election still seventeen months away; media outlets proclaiming their biases and supporting one side or the other, rather than defending the truth; and voters sick of the whole corrupt charade already.
And if it does come down to Jeb or Hillary, we will get to freely vote for (a) a family dynasty that used its great wealth to buy political power, or (b) a family dynasty that used its political power to acquire great wealth.
Both families are frauds with blood on their hands that can ONLY buy you a ticket to HELL! JFK's legacy (hint, hint) will outlive both.
Have we all forgotten 2012 where every GOP running took his 20 minutes leading the polls (except for the one person who should have won, RP)? Only to land on Mitt!
Bush/Clinton and yes, we are all taking crazy pills.
Finally someone with balls
Ok, he is an ass clown with a dyed Wombat pelt for hair. BUT, he did step out and say that unemployment is 20% not 5% and that ZIRP has caused a number of bubbles that is good for him and the wealthy but bad for the rest of us.
Don't expect the other flock of elitist fraternity scumbags to say anything like that. Ever.
Never thought much of the Trumpster, thought he was a pompous ass. Watching him call these idiots, idiots, giving it right back to these stupid reporters, calling out these illegals I got to say I like him. Could he turn out to be a total disaster? Sure but so would anyone else in the race. Phuck it, I vote Trump if I bother to vote which I probably won't.
The dumbazz natives (who give a rip) will 'vote' in another version of 'hope & change . . . . . . absolutely Nuthin'
They beg for tablescraps from their 'masters' instead of going full Cujo on them
like good domestic animals
Cuomo suggests 'deporting' Trump
http://tinyurl.com/o66qx5u
Cuomo should be executed for fraudulently impersonating a human being...
Lots of up arrows and hardly any down arrows. Sheeple much?
President Comb Over at least has vast experience with bankruptcy. A competence his country needs.
LOL - he has no chance, he'll be JFK'd before Q2 2016...
JKD'd for what? (I'm asking as a European) - I mean, he's a silly sod, but other than that...
He won't be JFK'ed. More likely he will get a deal like Jesse Jackson did with the Dem. Millions to bow out of the race each time he ran.
By the Bush family?
F-me, just give Hitlary the keys already.
Better reconsider that. Hillary is the face of death for millions.
Grimaldus
You're Fired!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75SEy1qu71I
This is what our country's come down to....fuck
Visionary Leader or Death Rattle of a Dying Party? Time will tell...
I love this guy.
I really do.
He is everything I would be in a President..."not giving a fuck what comes out of my mouth because I'M RICH."
The "Political Classes" going aplopletic makes this even better.
The whole thing is a Circus and I LOVE it!
So sick and tired of all the God damned political correctness with nothing getting done.
You wanna say he stole all that money to get to the top?
GO RIGHT AHEAD FUCKERS!
OK He stole all that money, but is he at the top?
.Who better to preside over a bankrupt nation than a man who's made defaulting a business model ?
He's definitely transparent...unlike the DroneMaster-in-Chief.
They hired an actor 35 years ago ... it's been down hill ever since.
"I plan on taking my enemies here and burying them in a TRILLION TONS OF CONCRETE!
AND I CAN DO THAT TOO!
...
> This is what our country's come down to....fuck
"our country" as in our's? surely you can't be serious.
look I will vote for him in the primary, 'cause he's of european stock, a white male ..gender and race do matter.
oh shit I forgot I am not a republican, well then I will sit home and think good things about him those huffer's here on ZH swung my vote to him with the idiot level comments haters I tell ya haters...lol
Hmmm, if Bush and Paul had the same number of votes, why wasn't Paul put in second place? Oh, that's right, alphabetic order.
...nevermind.