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Bacon-king still hungry...
How the fuck is Jeb Bush in second place? I suppose name recognition is paramount at this early stage.
Jeb WAS in first place, with a commanding lead. Was. Just like Hillary was the undisputed front-runner for the Democratic nomination, before Bernie Sanders showed up and started filling 10,000 seat halls for his speeches.
The good news is that Hillary no longer needs to look behind her to see where Bernie is doing in the polls. The bad news is that they're now neck and neck. Words do not describe the pleasure I'm experiencing watching Hillary's campaign having to twist itself into knots as they attempt to fend off the Sanders insurgency, particularly when he rails against our insane trade policies and treaties like NAFTA. My face hurts from smiling...
If we're gonna go communist, we may as well go all the way. Yeah Bernie
A vote for Bernie Sanders is a vote for Israel, for homosexual marriage with adoption rights, for open borders and unlimited immigration, and for gun control
Philip Weiss on May 1, 2015, wrote on Mondoweiss: “I’ve seen no one apart from Juan Cole, in this excellent summary of Sander’s Middle East views, point out his yeoman defense of Israel during its assault on Gaza last summer. In July Sanders formed part of the ‘unanimous consent’ to a resolution to support Israel in its attack, a resolution Salon’s David Palumbo-Liu said at the time ‘does more than confirm U.S. Senate support for Israel. It pushes that statement beyond any rational or ethical or moral framework imaginable.
“In a famous encounter at a town hall meeting in Vermont near the end of the onslaught, Sanders got so angry at pro-Palestinian constituents who were obviously deeply upset by an assault that had killed 500 Palestinian children that he told them to ‘shut up.’”
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/05/sanders-leftwing-economic
On the Issues reports Bernie Sanders Strongly Favors or Favors:
Same-sex domestic partnership benefits
More funding and stricter sentencing for hate crimes:
Rated 100% by the HRC, indicating a pro-gay-rights stance:
ENDA: prohibit employment discrimination for gays:
Repeal Don't-Ask-Don't-Tell, and reinstate discharged gays:
NO on banning gay adoptions in DC.
NO on Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage
NO on Constitutionally defining marriage as one-man-one-woman.
Rated 93% by the ACLU, indicating a pro-civil rights voting record. (Dec 2002)
Rated 97% by the NAACP, indicating a pro-affirmative-action stance. (Dec 2006)
Rated 7% by the Christian Coalition: an anti-family voting record. (Dec 2003
Rated F by the NRA, indicating a pro-gun control record. (Dec. 2003)
Bernie Sanders on Immigration:
http://www.ontheissues.org/house/Bernie_Sanders.htm
I do not know one supporter of Bush.
I don't believe these polls any more than I believe GDP, the unemployment rate, or the number of jobs created.
I am beginning to think their polls are only conducted on people with the last name Bush...
Then the results make just a bit more sense.
Go to Wal Mart and start asking people which Republican they want out of the possible choices. I guarantee that you'll meet some Bush supporters.
Go to Wal-Mart and ask 10 people to name either their congressman or one of their two senators. Chances are excellent you will go zero for ten.
Exactly. I don't know ANYONE who wants Jeb Bush to be the nominee.
I agree, name recognition is worth at least several points at this stage. How the hell does Huckabee rate anything except he had a TV show and ran before.
Huckabee should just go be a preacher or something.
So Graham voted for himself, but Pataki couldn't even find the stomach to self vote.
Politics has become a combination beauty contest and reality show and since Trump has done both makes him the leader......
"Politics has become a combination beauty contest and reality show and since Trump has done both makes him the leader......"
Yeah, but just wait until we get to vote for Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho for President!
http://www.buzzfeed.com/tabloidprodigy/meet-marijuana-pepsi-sawyer-2qd
Idiocracy = prophecy.
Idiocracy = Reality. It's always worse than you think...
WTF?
At least Rand Paul is 3rd.
Scott Walker has authentic credentials, for solving problems in Wisconsin. Maybe we need a real politician who has led a statehouse and made reforms, compared to gasbags "promoting their brand".
George Herbert Walker Bush.
Scott Walker, John Ellis Bush is his cousin.
Yup. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CpnD-OfIlg&t=15m44s
Who gives a tinker's toss?
That list of names reads like the whos who of oligarchy douche bagedness
Presented with nothing but an open-mouthed 'no comment'...
And I thought ZH was going to surprise us with a not surprising picture of one of many visit's of the "Trumpster" with his pants around his ankles getting a hummer from a lovely pet at the Guccione mansion?...
anything is possible in the "Land of the idiots, and the home of the debt slave......"
I don't take part in such circuses, but, if Trump were to be nominated, I would make an exception and vote for the clown.
You know, for "teh lulz".
"I don't take part in such circuses, but, if Trump were to be nominated, I would make an exception and vote for the clown.
You know, for "teh lulz"."
Kahlieefornia tried that with Ahnold for Governator. It didn't work out so good.
But Ahnold had married into the Kennedy clan at that point in his life. (splains a lot, actually splains everything...)
All things considered, could he really be any worse than the last few occupants of the office? He's no more a conservative that the prior 4 presidents, and while he's giving a voice to what was once called the 'silent majority' (and we all know how well Nixon did in the office), should he win his current supporters would be greatly disappointed. As with Boehner, et al.
That said, I really wanted him to run for and win the presidency in 2012. It's not that I wanted him president, but it would have been worth it to see him get inagurated, turn to Obama and say "You;'re FIRED!"
Alas, that never happened.
Most qualified candidate to run a bankrupt organization eva.
The sheep are passing on Lindsey Graham for role as Our Dear Leader. I wonder why?
PAUL/WARREN ticket would be a winner.
For who?
Imagine putting a match to Trump's hair...
One small sweep of a comb, one giant leap for hairkind.
Everyone loves a clown, right?
Clowns creep me out.
And when you fall asleep Clowns will eat you...
The reason he's there is due to the fact that he speaks the truth. If that makes him a clown then let's get one in the White House.
Long Viagra and German gold-digging whores!
If Paul completely and literally severed all ties with AIPAC and Bibi I'd at least listen to him. Until then he's just a Cabal whore like the rest of them.
Amen. So many tools around here that apparently still confuse him with his father.
Right - Paul is just as likely to bomb and interveve as the rest? MORON.
And you're saying they are all captive. So you can take Hillary or Paul and get the same Israel policy................ and the rest of it? MORON.
You just set a course record for naivete.
I can't decide what's worse listening to him or listening to the kankleasorous over the course of the next eight years. This country has become such a sad joke.
I think Donald would be more fun
I'll take Trump without blinking. I bet every public school kid would have lunch again.
Must be the hair
You can never underestimate the intelligence of the American people while picking presidents - look at Obama.
im sure im in the minority and while im not huge fan of the donald, i still contest the RESULTS of a trump presidency would be a helluva lot better than most (if not all others)
1. the dude can't be bought
2. he aint gonna lie; gonna tell you exactly whats on his mind cuz he doesn't give a shit - he aint looking to be "liked" as most all other politicians are (ie. hilary)
3. the shitty deal negotiations would end. he knows we have the bones to be a strong nation. we've just been depleted by decades of shit deals. he's all but said he'd try to unwind NAFTA & piss on the TPP. he knows china, japan, and mexico are killing us. china, japan are more about currency manipulation while mexico was more about bill clinton's "do whatever it takes" to get globalization online.
4. immigration. while trump does hit the throttle a bit too hard on this issue, he is on the right side of the story. hell, i didn't even know what the fuck a sanctuary city was until that poor girl got killed out in SF. that should NEVER happen. 7 felonies & 5 deportations and the guy said he went back to SF because he knew they wouldn't deport him. nuts.
5. the fed. the donald has been extremely outspoken about the bubbles we are blowing. im sure that shit would come to an end reagan/vocker style because trump wouldn't care about falling stock markets. he knows this is temporary until we hit the brick wall.
6. putin. i was stunned out how trump answered the russia question. while i expected him to be his brash self, he was thoughtful. said we HAVE TO re-establish our relationship with putin. i agree. our 2 countries need to find common ground. my take is no that putin is trying to walk the line of reaching out to us while still looking strong at home. i respect him for this because we have troops & tanks on his border & our navy near/in his waters. if russia had tanks in mexico/canada & destroyers off our coasts, it wouldn' (and shouldn't) sit well with american sentiment.
7. iraq/iran. trump on record in 2004 saying we should not go to war with iraq. said they served as a check to iran. they would fight for 5 years, stop for 5 years, rinse, repeat. doesn't wanna continue this endless carpet bombing campaign. doesn't believe in nation building.
Who cares more about money than someone who constantly brags about money? If he's not a whore for cash then nobody is.
I think your assertion that he can't be bought is way off base. Bragging about how much money he has is a sport for him. He even lies about how much money he has. His ego is his entire ethos and his wealth is directly connected to that ego.
^^^
JMO but the dude is worth somewhere $8billion-$10billion. again, i cud be dead wrong here but i think he knows he has more $$$ than he's ever gonna spend. i think he loves his country & just sees the direction we're going. like most ultra-wealthy, his biggest fear is the growing divide between rich & poor. he knows if we don't right the ship, its gonna turn into bain V batman in our streets. again, im not saying he doesn't like $$$, i just don't think he can be bought as a president. he must have known going into this thing A. he was a longshot to win and B. in saying what he was going to, that he was gonna piss off ALOT of people he does biz with (ie. univision, macy's). he's lost hundreds of millions of $$$ in deals and who know of future prospects he pissed off. all im saying is i think he knew that blow-back was coming and there was no guarantee he'd make president and get that $$$ back as a result.
Firstly, he does not have $8-$10bln. He struggled a few years back to prove having $1bln, but that didn't stop him from trying to make that claim very aggressively. That's my point, he overstates his wealth because he thinks it's important and he makes it clear that it's very important to him. Someone like that can be bought because they define themselves through how much money they have. And the more he gets, the better he feels about himself. It's not about spending, it's about bragging and how he compares himeself to other rich people.
Honestly, I don't care that much, the president doesn't matter, but I don't like him, mostly because I don't think he's very bright and has some serious hang-ups when it comes to his ego.
he says $9 billion, CNNMoney says $3.3 billion, Forbes i think has him $4.00-4.5 billion.
you are absolutely right about his ego. everytime he's on TV he's bragging about how much he has. as far as how bright he is, i see your vantage point. he is not thoughtful when speaking & just goes off the cuff. i think thats more about not wanting to seem scripted.
as for if he can be bought, IDK - i just don't see it. again, i see ur side of the arguement because to him, its not about the $$$, its about satisfying his ego and showing he has a bigger _____. i still do believe tho he'd want to do the right thing for the country and if some $$$ followed that, so-be-it. id have no problem with him making $$$ of it SO LONG AS it was the right decision unlike these other guys who make the decision based on the $$$. lets face it, any of these guys are going to make $$$ because of the office. IMO it comes down to is the result of the decision you made OR is it the reason you made your decision. i see trump as the former, hilary as the later. JMO.
Any president who tried to make meaningful changes would not last long.
I'd vote for Santorum because I believe he will pass the first ever chastity belt ammendment. Perhaps he will also require that he must be the one to inspect virgins for purity.
Trump seems like an absolutely absurd choice.
And he is.
But so are the other chumps.
Out with the chimp, in with the chump
Trump is a moron.
He really doesn't bother me at all, except he's being used as a tool by the GOP to fire up the base in time for the primaries, to nominate Jeb. Once he's hip to it he'll probably go Independent if he's serious.
Trump is just a judas goat, who will lead the disgusted GOP rank and file down the path towards Jeb & Rand. Too early for Jeb to come out, wait until this time next year before Team Jeb gives it their all. Trump is just waking up the GOP base, blowing all the hot-button dog whistle issues.
It's already all planned. Don't vote. It only encourages them. Sitting this one out if it comes down to Hilarity vs. Jethro.
Edit: I don't dislike the guy, and I like his plan spoken manner and the issues he's bringing up, but he won't go far with Jeb in the running. And who's advising him? Probably the same guy who's going to jump into Team Jeb when Trump decides he's had enough of being a tool for the GOP and goes I-Independent. I don't think Trump realizes it yet, but he's just being used to rally the base for Jeb.
Dog whistle implies that its something you can't overtly hear. That is not what Trump is doing at all. For once, someone is saying exactly what they mean and cutting through all of the politically correct bullshit.
It's called an analogy. A dog whistle to a dog is something they can hear and will respond to, just like Trump's bringing up the ugly side of immigration is something the GOP base hears and will respond to. Sorry you missed that, I'll dumb it down a bit more next time, but not too much.
And while I can empathize with your sentiment, I can also see it's working on you. Just be aware that when the base is all fired up and ready to "do something", they'll swap Team Jethro (Jeb) via the GOP primary to water all that stuff down with empty promises. Doesn't matter who the next POTUS is, it's going to be amnesty for all. Thanks to your friendly neighborhood multicultural agenda at work in the Western hemisphere.
That is not what dog whistle means within our current political climate. Dog whistle refers to saying something that will supposedly be interpreted below the radar to mean something else by the intended audience. For example, Bill Maher claimed that Gingrich's continual references to Obama having a Kenyan colonial ideology was code word for nigger. The left believes any use of the word "thug" is also a dog whistle for nigger.
What you are saying as "bring something up that the base will respond to" is referred to as a "bull horn" or "red meat." Its not that you need to dumb it down more - you need to just think before you write. Words have meaning. You used dog whistle incorrectly. Just own up to it and don't be a defensive little bitch.
When you use a dog whistle the dog comes running. Trump speaks truth to illegal immigration and the GOP base comes running. It's called an analogy,
Taking your definitions of phrasing from the left and Bill Maher. I see the problem. Sorry, I'm not hip to the way they speak, and I'm fine with you being the defensive little bitch.
Alright, I'm going to try and break this down for you.
Bill Maher did not call it a dog whistle. I am citing his statement as an example of what is referred to our political discourse as a dog whistle.
Another example is when Hillary says that our immigration policy is not about breaking families apart - that is a dog whistle to the latino community that she will not deport people. That is not intended for the rest of the country to hear, hence the term dog whistle since only her intended audience actually understands it - just like only a dog actually hears the whistle.
Trump is not trying to disguise his comments with intent that they be interpreted in any other way. So your analogy is completely wrong. Again - words have meaning. Your use of the term "dog whistle" in this context is completely wrong.
You can break it down all you want, I made my own analogy using my own words to express my own ideas, despite whatever you would have as "our" political climate and the terms you accept as describing thus. Saul Alinsky would be proud of you hijacking the context of my statements over the use (or misuse, as you will!) of an adjective.
Put down "Rules for Radicals" and have a conversation about how the GOP will hang Trump up on a trident before they let him anywhere near winning the primary.
Or just vote for Hillaroid, your choice.
Bush should be just above that sellout Rubio, where they can suck eachothers vergas for illegal votes.
Clowns to the left of me, jokers to my right, Here we are stuck in the middle again.
Be sure to vote for your lesser of evil.
evil - that would be the hildabeast
I hate the thought of Hillary for president.
Perhaps Trump could help the US through bankruptcy. He has the experience. He will of course alienate most every world leader.
Population of 320,000,000 and this is the best they could come up with? I mean seriously, think about that for a minute.
Well, they are not all awful. However, think how many people stay out of politics simply due to the nastiness of it all. That especially applies to how the press will seek to destroy the personal lives of any libertarian or constitutionalist who even contemplates running. Who wants to have their lives ruined?
The more I listen to Trump, the more I like him. Send him a link to ZH.
I'm sensing momentum going Pataki's way
care to short Pataki?
you doing pataki? - he's just another rino sellout
Dude, I couldn't have been more sarcastic. He doesn't even show up with numbers. Just in for the ego stroke.
But Melania Knauss-Trumpt would make a hot first lady.
It would be a serious improvement over the current one.
Understatement of the year!!
She is so fake she just looks weird. She is a human accessory for Trump. What a nightmare to be her.
Every time I see a picture of our current first lady, I reach for a vomit bag.
What a nightmare for our country.
da kinda some plastic..
but sure better than what you got now
realize that, please
this is first I ever looked at her after you comment
At least he didn't make his money SHORTING THE MARKET!
John Lennon co-wrote and performed on that song.
Santorum/ Lindsey cuz you know secretly Santorum wants to ride the hershey highway
Trump/Carson !!!
He has his own money so you could argue he would be the first President since maybe Ross Perot who can finance his own campaign and in theory be independent.
On the other hand he seems like a raving lunatic.
God Speed Republicans!
romney?
Jeb Bush says that if we all worked longer hours, we might get paid more.
Yes, that extra $16 for the 2 extra hours is going to make a huge difference.
People may even be able to afford McDonald's once a week now.
Bush is a twat
Most twats have a Bush.
clever
How many minutes per hour does he want US citoyens to work ? 8|
Probably somewhere around eight.
I understood he said need to work more...
but did he actually say anything about receiving any more pay?
Trump is just a way to put positions out that the other candidates can't really get behind - it puts the topic out there, everyone talks about it regardless of the context. Do Americans really want wide open borders? People on the fence, so to speak, may think "Trump is a nut, but I don't like seeing Mexican heroin here in the midwest"... Or the opposite, let him talk, then let a Repub point at him and say that he doesn't agree - kind of a win-win for those guys.
well then stop taking heroin
Kim Jong-Roves head just exploded.
Seriously....
Who would EVER, EVER want ANOTHER fucking BUSH in the White House??? Are you out of your fucking minds??!
You really have to ask that question? Not only did this country put a second Bush in the white house, they put Zero in twice, and a kankleasorous named Clinton is a serious contender on "the other side of the isle" for 2016. The country is fucking retarded.
god bless america
The List reads like a who's who of scrotumy.
HAHAHA! OMG! Donald, fire'em all, before they fire you!
I now always vote "other". Not voting doesn't help.
The guy who talks without politically-correct censorship will definitely score points. But let's just see how this roller coaster plays out.
Adjust the squelch and put his message in a different package . . .he is the most realistic candidate on either side. If Bernie Sanders was a billionaire and had a few TV reality shows, he would be the perfect enantiomer of Trump.
Trump has no Karl Rove or Huma Abedin or Sid Blumenthal pulling the strings. Imagine that.
His message is thus: We are getting weaker. The bad players are capitalizing on our weakness, and they are getting stronger. What are you going to do about it? I think this is a legitamate message.
That message is about as soft as the tale of Hansel and Gretel. Appeals to the willing dupes that lack the need for substance.
Just in case you missed it, one widely heard message is that hispanics in the US are criminals and rapists.
Between November 1, 2013 and October 31, 2014, there have been 4,317 charges of child sexual assault filed against illegal aliens in North Carolina. That is just one state.
Seems to me this Trump fella is on to something.
Got a link to that data? Just remember that here in Florida most immigrants of all types are not Mexicans.
LOL, don't be confusing people with facts now son. If it wasn't covered in the MSM it ain't real!
Bet ya didn't get that off Huffpo?
It may become a fact when a credible link is provided.. Otherwise it's bullshit.
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/12/nc-illegal-alien-pedophiles...
prove it incorrect
Here's where that comes from:
http://freenorthcarolina.blogspot.com/2014/12/nc-illegal-alien-pedophile...
I consider this as bullshit until the state or a law enforcement agency in NC come out with credible statistics. You need to prove it correct. The burden of proof is on you to prove an outrageous claim.
The burden of proof is on you to produce your green card.
All one needs ask oneself, is this... Is the country better off after all these years of unfettered illegal immigration?
http://www.ncfire.info
Take back with you to the HuffNPuff and share it with all your libtard buddies you scumbag
becoming apparent he is on to many somethings
that others won't touch
spread you lie ahole
OH yeah. If I'm a liar then what's this you idiot?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmIt2Abljyw
oh, fuck you.
I take it that you have never seen the rap sheets for members of congress.
Who are the bad players and when do we start carpetbombing 'em?
The real questions.
Karl Rove is out there attacking Trump hard.
there you go...look his enemies yours are same
Does it matter one bit who reads the teleprompter? I'd vote for trump in the hope that he goes off script occasionally and says something entertaining.
Or truthful....
Trump vs Jesse Ventura for all the marbles. I'd pay to see it.
then Trump/Ventura ticket
Shit,,, look at that list of losers... Re-enforces my decision not to vote.
Couple of years from now we'll be listening to how President [Enter Your Choice] is destroying Amerika,,, etc, etc, etc.
What's the fuss. The POTUS doesn't actually do anything. It's a mere puppet.
Ever hear of Executive Orders? The POTUS could order treasury issued (Not FRN's) money. See JFK. And yeah, I know what happened to him, but still...
Since Trump has been through bankruptcy at least four times, he may just be the right guy for the job seeing as the United States of DC, Inc. is insolvent and could use a guy with such experience.
Trump doesn't go through bankruptcy, his corporations do. Like all good 1%ers, the gains are his! the losses are some other chumps.
Kinda like Greece.
Wow Idiocracy and Back To The Future II all rolled into one.
Trump is the dystopic version of Biff Tannen, the version made godlike by a magical future sports-almanac.
1980s 4EVR bitches. Fucking Lamé everywhere!
At least in Idiocracy that guy got to sleep through all this crazy shit that got the world to where it was when he woke up.
F all the other lying shyster PC parasites
Trump has a lot of Skeletons in the closets, what with Unions and Women.. nice job you got there lady, if you don't want to loose it go out with me this Friday.
Hitlery has more skeletons, trust me on this. I've met certain people who've had their prison sentences commuted in exchange for their silence regarding the Clinton Crime Syndicate.
When you put Bush Senor' & Jr. in a blender and toss in a lump of PlayDoe <> you get Jeb Bush.
now talk about what the current liar in chief is made of - if you dare
HA!!
Someone representing Joe Citizen appears to be missing from that list of candidates.
Perhaps with the exception of Rand Paul.
The same guy who considers Bitch McConnell a close friend? Really?
Say what you want about Trump, but the facts remain.....He tells the truth and can't be bought (hopefully). His popularity is soaring because most Americans share his concerns about the border being wide open and most still believe in the rule of law (unlike OBomber) and the constitution.
What would get me on board with Trump is if he would vow to rid DC of lobbyists and put an end to crony capitalism. I don't see any of the others even coming close to that subject.
Hitlary would sell the statue of Liberty if someone gave a big enough donation to her foundation (personal slush fund).
Except for maybe Rand, all the others are just more of the same.
DemoCrooks and RepubliCONS.... vomit or diarrhea, take your pick and know that America still has the best politicians money can buy.
Bingo!
well said lost wages.
The Donald tells it like it is. How rare is that today?
Wouldnt it be great to hear Yellen say: "Hey I think we are fucked" but all you get is carefully worded innuendo. Same with all the Politicians have to carefully word everything.
Screw that!
I take Trump or Paul any day over those other puppets.