I don't think it is likely he'll win. BUT - I would not take the risk I see people taking to mock him and speak about him in ways they wouldn't even the worst of fringe candidates. If the unlikely occured and he wins, he doesn't seem the sort to forget and forgive to me.
I predict Trump will be the next President, if there is one and he's not assassinated, etc. (but that's only common sense). Having transformed the debate on immigration, he's next going to transform it on Common Core. The GOP elite is wetting its pants. I hope he gets to the unconstitutional decisions being passed down by the Supreme Court.
I predict Trump will be the next President, if there is one and he's not assassinated, etc. (but that's only common sense). Having transformed the debate on immigration, he's next going to transform it on Common Core. The GOP elite is wetting its pants. I hope he gets to the unconstitutional decisions being passed down by the Supreme Court.
Trump is in there to fuck over Rand Paul by stealing his publicity. I predict that at the last minute Trump's hair blows off and then it's Jeb to the finish line.
the MAIN reason i'd like to see Sanders win is because i'd like to think that an independent winning the election would really send a message to the 2-party system and would send a message to TPTB that the population is finally sick of what's been rammed down our throats for the past 20-30 years.
Sanders' stand on banks, corporations, TBTF, TPP, mass surveillance are not that far off from a typical libertarian. my concern is how he would run the economy - but hell, can't be much worse than what we have now which has just been socialism for rich people no matter who's in office for the last 20-30 years...might be nice to have a guy in there that is for the average shmuck.
How can any democrat/liberal with a modicum of intellectual honesty vote for Hitlery? Wait. What am I saying? Democrat/liberal and honesty aren't in the same ballpark. They're not in the same league. Hell they are t even in the same sport.
And don't give me this "what about the republicans?" crap because they aren't republicans. They are just as progressive left as the progressives but pretend they care about Americans or America.
Term limits for all, cut their salaries and bennies to poverty levels, and anyone caught violating their oath to uphd, protect and defend the constitution gets impeached immediately. As for SCOTUS impeach all of them and they only get 10yrs and increase the number of them to 21. Non of this 5-4 crap.
Do something America otherwise someone else will do it for you.
The 'Good' Republicans have said through policy only that we should descend into an autocratically planned and controlled society more slowly, while the 'Bad' Republicans have sung in the Democrats Choir that the descent should be made immediately.
It recalls the scene from Ghostbusters.
Who gives a crap what will be the form of the Destroyer?????
It simply doesn't matter.
Our salvation lies in dissassembling this destructive power center, not feeding it!
But I like that Trump is saying what needs to be said about illegals and some other bullshit going on. He's putting it on the table in a way that's getting traction. But he'd also be self serving once he got in.
Trump is benefiting from frustration in the Repub base that Repubs supposedly control House and Senate but elected leaders that are falling over themselves to support Obama. They haven't done anything to repeal Obamacare and just granted Obama huge trade treaty powers.
Plus, the John Roberts court is turning out to be the most government-expansionist courts in many decades. Jeb's brother appointed Roberts.
More and more people in both parties are coming to realize that bankers and corporate interests control both parties. And they like people like Trump who are willing to denounce the parties for the shills that they are.
American's are sick of being offered, by the elites and banksters, the warmed over shit sandwiches of Clinton or Bush. How can Trump be any worse than the lying, pathetic Republican Congress, Senate or Obama?
How can Trump be any worse for America's image than the freak show option of Clinton or Bush? Please tell us all, how Obama or Bush didn't destroy America's image to the rest of the world, and attempt to make the rest of us to be ashamed of our great country? Are you not embarrassed by John Kerry as Secretariat of State? How about blaming Bengazi on a video? What, Corzine and friends just get a $6o+M fine instead of jail time? It's all just been incredible...just a freak show that never stops
Well you could start by actually getting a law that says money is not free speach and companies are not people. That would go a long way to making it possible to win without selling your soul to the fucking banker mafia.
All I know is that some one, some government, some country is trying to undermine and unglue this country and weaken us from within. Whoever it is, is doing a damn good job of it under the Obama Admin.
There are some really iffy people walking around lately, the kind that have no business around here but all the sudden are everywhere.
And they aint the type that strengthen the community either.
The current U.S. Goobermint is retarded. Either that or I'm retarded and cant tell the difference between leadership and submission.
I live in a tiny town in the mountains. We used to have one black family here and they were great. Very kind, respectful and I use to run into the ole man fishing all the time and have a great time.
But all of the sudden, man, there are 4 huge black guys living here with white chicks and they look like hell. Tatooed from feet to head, don't work, act like assholes and just saw one wearing a shirt that said, "I'M A MAGICAL MOTHER FUCKER" in 3" letters on it. WTH? You never saw stuff like that up here.
Other day I'm cutting my lawn when I see two good looking gals walking by, I think, this should be good. I check em out when they go by and they're walking arm and arm. WTH? In 40 years I never saw anything like that up here.
Someone is deliberately undermining this country, I'm telling you.
Trump is sticking a finger at the establishment, the elite, who, although he is rich, does not accept him. This makes him very popular with the T-Party and the working class. If that boring Ross Perot could be a viable third candiadate, certainly Trump could, er, trump his performance.
Two things dangerous about him, as far as the political establishment is concerned, are:
1) He is widely recognized and is popular in the mass media.
2) Even worse, he is independently wealthy and doesn't need the establishment cronies for financial support.
Will he be a good president? I have no idea. Although I do have a horse in this race, I cannot vote, being, like, Canadian eh?
Don't let him fool you, he is the establishment, the elite and anyone hoping for a savior in our already determined electoral process is brainwashed thoroughly. Your next dictator is already chosen. Your Vote does not count. Accept that and quit expending your energies on a useless cause.
Don't let him fool you, he is the establishment, the elite and anyone hoping for a savior in our already determined electoral process is brainwashed thoroughly. Your next dictator is already chosen. Your Vote does not count. Accept that and quit expending your energies on a useless cause.
Shows you how out of touch the Media and some corporations are with the Merikan people. How would you feel as CEO of a company that's been bashing Trump all week only to learn he's uber-popular?!
A few years ago, these last four qualities would have been fatal to any candidate for high office. Now, people are so pissed off that this might actually be good.
I am going to repost what I said about "the Donald" on June 19th in response to your article about Carl Icahn because I think it is still relevant.
teutonicate June 19, 2015 ----------------------------
You know we all kid about Donald Trump because of his personal idiosyncrasies, his hair, his big ego, and his past business dealings. I also think it would be difficult for him to win the election.
However, objectively, he is the only candidate that has been verbally tough enough to call out the realities that:
- We need to restore our manufacturing base by establishing a tariff regime on foreign (especially Chinese) goods, because at present it is not a level playing field, and service-only economies never make it.
- We need to deport all illegal aliens, penalize employers that employ them, control our borders, and modify our immigration regime to protect our people and culture. He even has proposed that Mexico pay for a border fence - now that takes guts!
- We need to dramatically shrink entitlement programs and welfare, re-coupling them with employment or other productive activity
If you solve these economic problems, a lot of the other problems go away.
No other candidate has been prepared to verbalize a tough solution to these problems - because they continue to comply with the globalization doctrine of the cabal. The Donald has problems as a presidential candidate, but objectively you have to give him credit for this.
This said I believe that his true relationship with the cabal may be uncertain due to his past business dealings - and presents an unknown risk factor that would need to be evaluated.
If you look throughout history, some very strange things have happened at political inflection points in our society. There is a remote possibility that even if Donald Trump is not elected, his candidacy and participation in the debates could act as a catalyst for dramatic change in this country.
He is the only candidate who doesn't depend on big money donars and special interests to run. Every single last one of the others must sell their soul to run for POTUS ... not the Donald.
I think the money bags behind both the GOP and DNC are trying to figure out how to buy him ... or destroy him.
If nothing else, maybe Trump will get a few people to think about what kind of person we want in the White House (You know - character, integrity and all that kind of stuff.). The present occupier is a great example of the failure to do so, and if this simple test were applied to the Billary, she would be out of the race in a heartbeat. Methinks, though, this isn't going to make any difference in the end.
I know I'm not the first to point this out but.....
What is with the shit choices that always seem to make up the final vote choice? In 2008 it was either vote for bath house Barry and big mouth Biden or go with senile McCain and Palin. Sure one could vote for an independent party, but we all know how few people realize they can choose anything other than red team or blue team. They probably could not even name an independent candidate, they'd rather just write in Caitlyn or Kardashian or whatever.
Now we *could* be facing a choice of Trump vs. Clinton. OMFG that is horrible.
"...The mainstream press could not let such an opportune racist outburst go unnoticed. After all, it was perfect fodder for fueling the corporate media's never-ending spectacle of entertainment. Mouthed from one of America’s favorite billionaire buffoons, his racist and xenophobic statements have been defended as brave, dismissed as uncivil, or set aside as the colorful discourse of a cantankerous, rich eccentric. Such commentary collapses into the realm of the personal by privatizing racism. That is, it ignores the deep seated contours of systemic racism and xenophobia and the conditions that promote it, instead focusing on the individual who spouts such poisonous racist language. Rather than viewing Trump’s comments as a political virus that has deep roots in nativist apoplexy and a long legacy of racism and state violence, his despicable remarks are reduced to an uncivil rant by a bullying member of the billionaire class with no reference to the unmarked status of white privilege and its underlying logic of white supremacy. Such commentary at its core is superficial, duplicitous, and represents a flight from responsibility and a politics of denial.." From 'Trumping America' http://bit.ly/1CsXU1X
The day ZH'ers believe Trump to be the most potable of candidates, rock bottom has already been passed. Next sticky on the front page: Honey Boo Boo goes to Alabama state fair.
Sense when does anyone reading Zerohedge believe the People pick the Prez?
There is no way in hell, either Jeb or Hillary are the people's choice, and yet one of the two will be sitting in the white house soon - if Obama doesn't declair Marshal Law and call off the elections first!
They're both on the same team and the Oligarchs will see to it they're both on the ticket when the circus gets down to two.
Trump will not be prez, bet your retirement on it!
Are any of these clowns going to make 'things' better for the average American? Can we delude ourselves that badly? And this type of article is just hype to get everyone interested in a phoney charade called an election. At the end of the day it will be between Jeb and Hillary because the Oligarchs want it that way, not much of a choice imho. I would rather choose between Obey or Revolt and Revolt will get my vote every time.
Only boycott has any political weight or visible expression in this corrupt system. Let them be elected by 10% of population then we could claim that their illegitimacy to rule and demand their departure from political realm. And neither Trump nor well-mannered Greens make any difference if they run or not.
As Stalin once said. It is not important who's being elected or who votes for who.
What matters is who is counting the votes (Bush-Gore 2000,Bush-Kerry 2004). We should be counting votes if we want to win. We could have easily and cheaply electronic ALTERNATIVE election for alternative programs and ALTERNATIVE candidates (that never run for office and are unaffiliated with any political formation) who would commit to execute those political programs that can truly represent our political aspiration as a nation.
Such elections, followed all web practically no cost campaign on YouTube or elsewhere, protected via secure block chain technology guaranteeing accuracy since everyone would be able to check whether his/her vote was counted. At minimum it could be media event where Americans could voice their vision of America instead of contributing a sheeple fest.
The only choice we have for today is absolute boycott of elections as 150 millions of true American patriots are already doing and election after election vastly outnumbering electoral zombies of the American Oligarch Party in their inhumane march into poling/feeding stations to get their rotten meat and in the process to validate murder and mayhem done in our names.
For those who still think they can organize and win "their" election. Here is a gem. The fallacy of this sort of democracy is nowhere better illustrated than in case of Italy where for over 30 years after WWII Italian communist party alone or communist/socialist coalition WON EVERY SINGLE NATIONAL ELECTION and was never asked by president to form government resulting in 39 minority governments all under watchful eye of American protectors of democracy and US navy.
Do you know who we’re dealing with here” An autocratic system disguised as democratic chaos, fake uncertainty or illusion of chance and propaganda of opportunity for all. We might even win, one shot in a billion, in "their" elections but we would never get to rule without blood spilled in the streets.
The fact that the media is trying to assasinate Trump this early in the run indicates to me that he is their worst nightmare. That's enough for me! Go boy!
Trump actually has done something for himself and his family in the real world; the real world as you all know is harsh and unfair . Yes, he may come from a wealthy family, but most children from wealthy families never make it, they fuck up and are worthless; I've seen it myself. I don't know.
I liked Perot, but who really wanted to vote for a little jugged eared guy that looked like a mouse? I think that this was my first election vote, and I wasted it on him.
Do we want another bumbling Bush, that can't even speak English?; or a another Clinton that is a confirmed lesbian with a middle eastern fetish?
This Clinton lesbian can also speak in tongues. whatever that means...
So if you all want a Bush or Clinton, don't vote for Mr. Trump.
Mr. Trump is nothing but a side show, distraction, vote borrower. It is an attempt (with which appears initially successful) to attract the mind numb dumb-masses to disregard all pragmatic logic and just say 'fuck it' - I'll vote for this guy because he 'truly has my best interset in mind'...
The USA is toasted and buttered, no easier way to put it.
Why vote anymore, I mean seriously - it makes no freekin difference. For example, my voice (and the majority) is heard and our vote counted, but the minority voice is heard and they somehow win... The entire politcal system/theatre is rigged, just like a casino or a 30 year mortgage!
Will I vote this next election - yes. But, I can assure it will be my last. My potential candidate will not win, he may not even be on the ballot - but I'm writing him in - my last attempt of feeling that "Your Vote Counts"...
I vote patriotism, accountability, hard work, self worth, morals, sound ethics, forgiveness, kindness, and logic. Unfortunately, my ideals are jurassaic - I am a dinosaur, destined for the extinction the main stream medium demands I deserve...
Who I am voting for... You figure it out.. Fuck off idiots!
notice ducklings, that although Jeb Bush and Rand Paul are exactly even, that Bush is placed ahead of Paul. this is how it works, now you look at the polls and say Bush is number 2, and Paul, well he is number 3. some smart ass is going to come now and tell me that is because Bush is 7.01% and Paul is 7% even, but do you think those small matters cannot be contrived to suit the interests of those who buy these elections with their purloined dollars from the federal reserve which issued them using taxpayer money? and they say you havent got a vote...
Merikans are pretty fed up with both Dems and Repugnicans looks like; they are begging for a real change and Trump may be their answer. Obviously many people are tired of Barry's not enforcing the immigration laws, rapid growth of the FSA, moar wars, etc. Since there's no diff between parties Dem and Rep, Trump offers a completely diff choice. He's not a far-left community organizer and not in the pockets of Wall Street. I'm sure he scares the heck out of them--the upper 1% and the FSA at th eother end.
I find it hard to believe the reaction MSM and so many companies have given him ... they obviously either don't care about thier middle class customers or are simply tryih too hard to be politically correct but it looks like it's going to backfire on them.
What if Ben Carson signed on to run as Vp before the convention. Would the repukelicans turn them out? Faster than you could close your eyes of you saw jeb and Hillary in the shower together. But how would they clear the general election with disenchanted trumpets and carsonites staying home rather than going with the pos jeb.
Reminds me of this Letter to the Editor, that in now way could have been written by Donald Trump. After all, everybody uses the English language like this, right?
I like Rand paul -but with the qualification that I belkeive he is gaming the establishment by espousing some positions that are not his true beliefs -that's politics. Trump is actually more favorable than any of the rest -though I despise him and would never vote for him in a general election where there will be several decent third party candidates.
I wasn't invited to the Council on Foreign Relations meeting, so I don't know who the elite have chosen for their next potus puppet, but I "think" it is Rand Paul. They need someone who can badmouth both the Republicans and the Democrats, the Bush and Clinton dynasties, and badmouth the Federal Reserve and the Government, so they can collapse them and bring in their global agenda. Rand Paul would be perfect for that, just like the idiot George Bush was perfect for 9-11, and Obama was perfect for trashing what was left of America.
If people here actually think the next anointed one, no matter who it is, will make a cunts hair worth of good difference in the world...............well, lets just say I guess I had this place figured all wrong.
along with numerous bankos and smelly deals ? I doubt the donald could actuallly build a dog house on his own ? but we all live in massive illusions that pass for reality ? look around they are everywhere.
Trump for President! Why the hell not? Speaking of running, why not elect the fastest runner in a 50 yard dash. Why not? Or how about we elect some Hollywood celebritard. A cartoon character? I vote for Homer Simpson. Random social security number? Or maybe we elect inanimate objects. I would vote for 44 magnum as President and a dildo for VP. "President Magnum how do you feel about gun control"? BOOM! That's how. And "Mr. Vice President can you tell us about some of your previous experiences"? Well, I've run into just about every asshole in town. I've been shit on, pissed on and bled on for most of my existence and now I can return the favor.
Or how about some brutal honesty. "Mr. President what will be your first action as President"? Well, all I can say is Billy Morgan my 5th grade bully is getting a cruise missile right about...now. Or "What do you plan to do about the uncontrollable national debt". Shit, we aint never going to pay that off and to all our bond holders I got a nuclear tipped cruise missile if you got a problem with that. Prez out!
We may as well elect a pro wrestler. Why the hell not. "Let me tell you something brother" Yeeeeeeaa Snap into a slim jim
We could go all nascar and have sponsors. The Prez and VP could have logos sewn onto their suits. "President Ford Lincoln Mercury brought to you by Toyota". Every press conference they would be surrounded by their endorsements. And every time the cam zoomed in they would take a sip of mountain spew or red turd. Why the fuck not.
"This bill signed into law by President Ford Lincoln Mercury brought to you by Vaseline...cause your going to need it".
Donald Trump's inheritance is estimated to have been between US$40 million and $200 million. His net worth, according to his financial disclosure earlier this month, is reportedly US$8,900 million. He has grown his inheritance 45 times over. The Donald gets no credit for that? It would be as if I had grown my inheritance to forty-five hundred bucks.
Having hundreds of millions to start with vs basic costs of living, his preferred costs of living at each income+savings bracket he was in for each year... entirely different.
The ascendancy of Trump is an indication of the dis-satisfacion the base feels towards the (so called) GOP "leaders". Boner, Mc Connell and Priebus have created the perfect storm and Trump has set his sails for it.
Perhaps some other candidates will set their sails to take advantage of the storm.
I like that be is successful through his own hard work, with me, the i icing on the cake would be if he were a combat veteran, one that saw action, like Ike and Kennedy. The saw what war does to young men. When it had to be though, they saw it end with us the victors and our enemies fully surrendered
Unfortunately, the good guys(gooder???) don't allways win, so you ought not paint with that broad a brush as regards combat service. The military is commanded by civilian leadership by design. You use the flag of the Army of Northern Virginia as your avatars. They didn't win. Nathan Bedford Forrest was a civilian who came up through the ranks. Jefferson Davis was a military man, yet he managed to leave the war in the west in the incompetent hands of Braxton Bragg!!! Sometimes ideology is very important and excellent leadership arises from where it is least expected. Keeping an open mind may be a better guide and don't sell Rand short.
Prediction on the Republican nomination process going on currently in the US:
- Hillary is the most corrupt candidate on the ballot
- Sanders is a pure socialist, which is the LAST thing the US needs right now, but at least he tries to be philosophically consistent
- Republicans actually have some decent candidates like Scott Walker who could feasibly win the nomination
- Enter Donald Trump, who CLEARLY is not qualified to be President, as is evident by his extreme level of immaturity
- Trump is most likely working with the establishment Republicans to distract the people off these decent non-establishment Republican candidates
- Once he finally steps down, the other guys will have used up their advertising budgets, and Jeb will win the nomination by default
Either way, the US ends up with a Clinton or a Bush, and the same old corrupt bullshit continues on as before. There will be no detour for the US as it makes its way down the "Road to Serfdom"
Trump is a Republican John Kennedy .... and Bobby Gindahl his Bobby Kennedy attack dog !
Trump takes another dump.
Gimme a Hell Yeah! He's so American.
I don't think it is likely he'll win. BUT - I would not take the risk I see people taking to mock him and speak about him in ways they wouldn't even the worst of fringe candidates. If the unlikely occured and he wins, he doesn't seem the sort to forget and forgive to me.
THIS IS WHAT WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY, PUTTING INCOMPETENT CRONIES INTO OFFICE FOR THE SAKE OF DIVERSITY. fuck this shit.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/tech/hack-opm-office-personnel-management...
bio
Archuleta is committed to building an innovative and inclusive workforce that reflects the diversity of America.
https://www.opm.gov/about-us/our-people-organization/senior-staff-bios/k...
You cant run an efficient government with people that are successful fuck ups.
AFTER HEARING PERRY THIS MORNING ON THE RADIO AND NOW THIS. . . . I"M PISSED. . . . . . .
I"M VOTING FOR MR T.
Jeb Bush has major problems ahead. So does Hillary. Trump want a "trump card?" He can start endorsing Lee Wanta ..
https://app.box.com/s/769a4o7oixga7au2iz0a7nnxouicngrq
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/11/06/roadmap-to-redressing-economic-t...
http://eagleonetowanta.com/
Trump, do you have $30 T, 20% compounded annually? Do you have 2000 metric tonnes of bullion on the side?
Why does the scene in "Home Alone 2" keep replaying in my head?
"Down the hall and to the left."
I think the national debt was $4 T back then .. (at least that is what Mustaine reported https://youtu.be/u0iRwPuRHPk)
"Swing to the symphony of destruction".
4T was the national debt number when Perot ran against Bush and Clinton.
Right, and it was less than $1T when Reagan took office.
Dave Mustaine? Now we are talking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, Trump would certainly shake things up in DC....
I predict Trump will be the next President, if there is one and he's not assassinated, etc. (but that's only common sense). Having transformed the debate on immigration, he's next going to transform it on Common Core. The GOP elite is wetting its pants. I hope he gets to the unconstitutional decisions being passed down by the Supreme Court.
I predict Trump will be the next President, if there is one and he's not assassinated, etc. (but that's only common sense). Having transformed the debate on immigration, he's next going to transform it on Common Core. The GOP elite is wetting its pants. I hope he gets to the unconstitutional decisions being passed down by the Supreme Court.
chump on the stump for trump
Hey hedgeless! You a got picture to post with Mr. Trump?
Trump is in there to fuck over Rand Paul by stealing his publicity. I predict that at the last minute Trump's hair blows off and then it's Jeb to the finish line.
the MAIN reason i'd like to see Sanders win is because i'd like to think that an independent winning the election would really send a message to the 2-party system and would send a message to TPTB that the population is finally sick of what's been rammed down our throats for the past 20-30 years.
Sanders' stand on banks, corporations, TBTF, TPP, mass surveillance are not that far off from a typical libertarian. my concern is how he would run the economy - but hell, can't be much worse than what we have now which has just been socialism for rich people no matter who's in office for the last 20-30 years...might be nice to have a guy in there that is for the average shmuck.
Except there isn't a single one of them in there for the average shmuck...
you want to dance with a socialist maniac, 5 x worse, in retoric, then the wacko in power now?
How can any democrat/liberal with a modicum of intellectual honesty vote for Hitlery? Wait. What am I saying? Democrat/liberal and honesty aren't in the same ballpark. They're not in the same league. Hell they are t even in the same sport.
And don't give me this "what about the republicans?" crap because they aren't republicans. They are just as progressive left as the progressives but pretend they care about Americans or America.
Term limits for all, cut their salaries and bennies to poverty levels, and anyone caught violating their oath to uphd, protect and defend the constitution gets impeached immediately. As for SCOTUS impeach all of them and they only get 10yrs and increase the number of them to 21. Non of this 5-4 crap.
Do something America otherwise someone else will do it for you.
Yeah. Let's DO Something!
Count de money: Sir the people are revolting!
King Louie: You said it. They stink on ice.
https://goo.gl/AgTCFE - Bernie Sanders isn't going to save America, for that matter, neither is Rand, but I'd take Rand's medicine over Bernie's
The 'Good' Republicans have said through policy only that we should descend into an autocratically planned and controlled society more slowly, while the 'Bad' Republicans have sung in the Democrats Choir that the descent should be made immediately.
It recalls the scene from Ghostbusters.
Who gives a crap what will be the form of the Destroyer?????
It simply doesn't matter.
Our salvation lies in dissassembling this destructive power center, not feeding it!
Hillary isn't laughing at the Donald, she's laughing at the idiot American voters.
and the rest of us are laughing at the sociopathic Hillary
Trump has name recognition.
But I like that Trump is saying what needs to be said about illegals and some other bullshit going on. He's putting it on the table in a way that's getting traction. But he'd also be self serving once he got in.
Hilary has been self serving before she got in and she sure won't stop that if she gets in.
Virtually all politicians are self serving. Hard to find any among the current set of presidential aspirants who aren't.
However, were Trump to win, he doesn't need to use the presidency to get richer. His focus will be other things.
Hilary has been self serving I'm struggling for a Wimbledon metaphore here.
However, I agree his financial independence will his presidency less behoven to crony interests. No mopre Tesla! Bonus!
When he is elected, will he have the country renamed in his honor..? Have the gold-plated logo on the white house....
Suggestions..?
Trump Palatial Estates of America?
Trump is benefiting from frustration in the Repub base that Repubs supposedly control House and Senate but elected leaders that are falling over themselves to support Obama. They haven't done anything to repeal Obamacare and just granted Obama huge trade treaty powers.
Plus, the John Roberts court is turning out to be the most government-expansionist courts in many decades. Jeb's brother appointed Roberts.
More and more people in both parties are coming to realize that bankers and corporate interests control both parties. And they like people like Trump who are willing to denounce the parties for the shills that they are.
American's are sick of being offered, by the elites and banksters, the warmed over shit sandwiches of Clinton or Bush. How can Trump be any worse than the lying, pathetic Republican Congress, Senate or Obama?
It's conceivable that, if elected, and unless he finds the right hairdresser, he just might give America a bad name.
People around the world love and respect america. I'd hate to see him give america a bad name.
How can Trump be any worse for America's image than the freak show option of Clinton or Bush? Please tell us all, how Obama or Bush didn't destroy America's image to the rest of the world, and attempt to make the rest of us to be ashamed of our great country? Are you not embarrassed by John Kerry as Secretariat of State? How about blaming Bengazi on a video? What, Corzine and friends just get a $6o+M fine instead of jail time? It's all just been incredible...just a freak show that never stops
.... He can only be worse for the "establishment", Rand Paul and Donald. Can you say rock the boat baby?
Well you could start by actually getting a law that says money is not free speach and companies are not people. That would go a long way to making it possible to win without selling your soul to the fucking banker mafia.
You'd need a law for every nonsensical concept a court could approve later, and this was just one of them.
All I know is that some one, some government, some country is trying to undermine and unglue this country and weaken us from within. Whoever it is, is doing a damn good job of it under the Obama Admin.
There are some really iffy people walking around lately, the kind that have no business around here but all the sudden are everywhere.
And they aint the type that strengthen the community either.
Agreed. It is the current US government.
The current U.S. Goobermint is retarded. Either that or I'm retarded and cant tell the difference between leadership and submission.
I live in a tiny town in the mountains. We used to have one black family here and they were great. Very kind, respectful and I use to run into the ole man fishing all the time and have a great time.
But all of the sudden, man, there are 4 huge black guys living here with white chicks and they look like hell. Tatooed from feet to head, don't work, act like assholes and just saw one wearing a shirt that said, "I'M A MAGICAL MOTHER FUCKER" in 3" letters on it. WTH? You never saw stuff like that up here.
Other day I'm cutting my lawn when I see two good looking gals walking by, I think, this should be good. I check em out when they go by and they're walking arm and arm. WTH? In 40 years I never saw anything like that up here.
Someone is deliberately undermining this country, I'm telling you.
FUCK THIS ZIONIST FUCKIN PIECE OF SHIT
http://www.timesofisrael.com/donald-trump-endorses-netanyahu-for-pm/
Your brains are a piece of shit
Thanks for the heads up. Is there any candidate that is not in AIPAC's pocket?
508 comments so far. Trump sure can get people fired up!
Trump is sticking a finger at the establishment, the elite, who, although he is rich, does not accept him. This makes him very popular with the T-Party and the working class. If that boring Ross Perot could be a viable third candiadate, certainly Trump could, er, trump his performance.
Two things dangerous about him, as far as the political establishment is concerned, are:
1) He is widely recognized and is popular in the mass media.
2) Even worse, he is independently wealthy and doesn't need the establishment cronies for financial support.
Will he be a good president? I have no idea. Although I do have a horse in this race, I cannot vote, being, like, Canadian eh?
Don't let him fool you, he is the establishment, the elite and anyone hoping for a savior in our already determined electoral process is brainwashed thoroughly. Your next dictator is already chosen. Your Vote does not count. Accept that and quit expending your energies on a useless cause.
All I see is people fucking with pollsters.
I’d vote for him. We finally have someone willing to lead and to call a spade a spade!....
Damn spades!
Looks like ZHers are skewing heavily for The Donald too... is it time for Tylers first poll question?
Won't it funny to see that confused look on Tylers face?
Well, shyeeeit
I'd add Jon Corzine but first we must FREE JON CORZINE!
Trump! He is politically incorrect! He has my vote!!
Don't let him fool you, he is the establishment, the elite and anyone hoping for a savior in our already determined electoral process is brainwashed thoroughly. Your next dictator is already chosen. Your Vote does not count. Accept that and quit expending your energies on a useless cause.
Really?
Do you do horse racing, NFL games, and stock picking, too?
You must be fabuoulsy rich.
useless talkings
take your own advices, sit and watch deterioration there
No doubt TPTB have a special hack for the 2016 Diebold. It would be crazy to leave "gods work" to mere mortals/serfs.
Shows you how out of touch the Media and some corporations are with the Merikan people. How would you feel as CEO of a company that's been bashing Trump all week only to learn he's uber-popular?!
Love the Hils pic. God for an oldie that woman has sex appeal.
I rarely down arrow anyone, but it seems as if you actually mean what you say, as opposed to be sarcastic. So, one of my few down arrows in years.
Uh, yeah. Bill Cosby has more sex appeal.
Agreed. Second only to Helen Thomas.
What were Lindsay Graham and George Pataki thinking?
Do they ever talk to anyone?
It turns out that Linda Graham overestimated the number of gay republicans that she thought would be there for him.
Mrs. Trump: "He is passionate about the country"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxu7QM4BTCo
first I ever looked her, first interview I found
did not watch it all...
http://www.timesofisrael.com/ivanka-trump-happy-to-be-jewish/
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/clinton-foundation-keeps-donations...
We now have reach escape velocity for the crazies.
You're about 7 years late to the party.
Donald Trump:
1. has high name recogntion
2. too rich to be bought
3. poltiically incorrect
4. not seen as an establishment candidate
5. appears to say what he thinks.
A few years ago, these last four qualities would have been fatal to any candidate for high office. Now, people are so pissed off that this might actually be good.
Fuck you Hillary, you Sleestak.
I am going to repost what I said about "the Donald" on June 19th in response to your article about Carl Icahn because I think it is still relevant.
teutonicate June 19, 2015 ----------------------------
You know we all kid about Donald Trump because of his personal idiosyncrasies, his hair, his big ego, and his past business dealings. I also think it would be difficult for him to win the election.
However, objectively, he is the only candidate that has been verbally tough enough to call out the realities that:
- We need to restore our manufacturing base by establishing a tariff regime on foreign (especially Chinese) goods, because at present it is not a level playing field, and service-only economies never make it.
- We need to deport all illegal aliens, penalize employers that employ them, control our borders, and modify our immigration regime to protect our people and culture. He even has proposed that Mexico pay for a border fence - now that takes guts!
- We need to dramatically shrink entitlement programs and welfare, re-coupling them with employment or other productive activity
If you solve these economic problems, a lot of the other problems go away.
No other candidate has been prepared to verbalize a tough solution to these problems - because they continue to comply with the globalization doctrine of the cabal. The Donald has problems as a presidential candidate, but objectively you have to give him credit for this.
This said I believe that his true relationship with the cabal may be uncertain due to his past business dealings - and presents an unknown risk factor that would need to be evaluated.
If you look throughout history, some very strange things have happened at political inflection points in our society. There is a remote possibility that even if Donald Trump is not elected, his candidacy and participation in the debates could act as a catalyst for dramatic change in this country.
not that he is even remotely close to a Ron Paul..............but he's got about as much of a chance of winning........ZERO
Anyone but that pathetic hillary the hillbilly.
Love him or hate him, he has one unique quality.
He is the only candidate who doesn't depend on big money donars and special interests to run. Every single last one of the others must sell their soul to run for POTUS ... not the Donald.
I think the money bags behind both the GOP and DNC are trying to figure out how to buy him ... or destroy him.
The major parties are out of ideas and out of candidates.
If nothing else, maybe Trump will get a few people to think about what kind of person we want in the White House (You know - character, integrity and all that kind of stuff.). The present occupier is a great example of the failure to do so, and if this simple test were applied to the Billary, she would be out of the race in a heartbeat. Methinks, though, this isn't going to make any difference in the end.
wow a yougov.com poll........well that's something to be taken seriously.....
I know I'm not the first to point this out but.....
What is with the shit choices that always seem to make up the final vote choice? In 2008 it was either vote for bath house Barry and big mouth Biden or go with senile McCain and Palin. Sure one could vote for an independent party, but we all know how few people realize they can choose anything other than red team or blue team. They probably could not even name an independent candidate, they'd rather just write in Caitlyn or Kardashian or whatever.
Now we *could* be facing a choice of Trump vs. Clinton. OMFG that is horrible.
never....the Adelson/Koch wing of the party has to play out everyone to confuse the masses
"...The mainstream press could not let such an opportune racist outburst go unnoticed. After all, it was perfect fodder for fueling the corporate media's never-ending spectacle of entertainment. Mouthed from one of America’s favorite billionaire buffoons, his racist and xenophobic statements have been defended as brave, dismissed as uncivil, or set aside as the colorful discourse of a cantankerous, rich eccentric. Such commentary collapses into the realm of the personal by privatizing racism. That is, it ignores the deep seated contours of systemic racism and xenophobia and the conditions that promote it, instead focusing on the individual who spouts such poisonous racist language. Rather than viewing Trump’s comments as a political virus that has deep roots in nativist apoplexy and a long legacy of racism and state violence, his despicable remarks are reduced to an uncivil rant by a bullying member of the billionaire class with no reference to the unmarked status of white privilege and its underlying logic of white supremacy. Such commentary at its core is superficial, duplicitous, and represents a flight from responsibility and a politics of denial.." From 'Trumping America' http://bit.ly/1CsXU1X
The day ZH'ers believe Trump to be the most potable of candidates, rock bottom has already been passed. Next sticky on the front page: Honey Boo Boo goes to Alabama state fair.
Trump is Hillary's foil.
You fucking morons don't get it?
Trump IS NOT ELECTABLE/DOES NOT EVEN DESIRE TO BE ELECTED.
The 'enemy' (stupidity) is at this point a disease. The intoxicated on propaganda far right LOVES Trump.
The intoxicated on propaganda 'progressive' moronista's LOVE Bernie.
Guess who's gunna win?
WE ARE FUCKED.
Good thing we've got you to set us straight.
The Elite Tower says all I need to know about how the toupee liez.
The only thing I like about Trump is his daughter may just be the best looking woman in the world -
https://www.google.com/search?q=ivanka+trump&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&e...
He's already pissed off a voting block that Jeb (who I despise) probably has in his back pocket.
Eminem's daughter
jus' sayin'
dyaa-ummm
Double Post
just for fun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuP1e0RNF-0
A lot of clowns here still believe some fiscal conservative is going to somehow transform the 200 trillion liability into an asset?
The US is flat out broke
The debt is never being repaid
So why pretend some pompous arrogant know-nothing bigmouth like Trump is going to make anything better in four years
Bernie Sanders 2016- He's been consistent and ready to print for the people before the inevitable reset
FUCK this asinine "poll"
Who the fuck believes in these so-called fucking "polls" anyway?
Fucking MORONS...that's who.
Fucking erped up my dinner looking at a cackling Cankles....thanks Tylers....
LMAO
So true, Fricking Polls wise....
Sense when does anyone reading Zerohedge believe the People pick the Prez?
There is no way in hell, either Jeb or Hillary are the people's choice, and yet one of the two will be sitting in the white house soon - if Obama doesn't declair Marshal Law and call off the elections first!
They're both on the same team and the Oligarchs will see to it they're both on the ticket when the circus gets down to two.
Trump will not be prez, bet your retirement on it!
Are any of these clowns going to make 'things' better for the average American? Can we delude ourselves that badly? And this type of article is just hype to get everyone interested in a phoney charade called an election. At the end of the day it will be between Jeb and Hillary because the Oligarchs want it that way, not much of a choice imho. I would rather choose between Obey or Revolt and Revolt will get my vote every time.
Anybody that thinks the immigration policy is not a disaster here in the states is either brain dead or a Mexican.
The biggest problems:
1) the Native people are not in control of immigration & are the only non-immigrants
2) the European immigrants seem to think they're native, except they know they're not
Only boycott has any political weight or visible expression in this corrupt system. Let them be elected by 10% of population then we could claim that their illegitimacy to rule and demand their departure from political realm. And neither Trump nor well-mannered Greens make any difference if they run or not.
As Stalin once said. It is not important who's being elected or
who votes for who.
What matters is who is counting the votes (Bush-Gore 2000,Bush-Kerry 2004). We should be counting votes if we want to win. We could have easily and cheaply electronic ALTERNATIVE election for alternative programs and ALTERNATIVE candidates (that never run for office and are unaffiliated with any political formation) who would commit to execute those political programs that can truly represent our political aspiration as a nation.
Such elections, followed all web practically no cost campaign on YouTube or elsewhere, protected via secure block chain technology guaranteeing accuracy since everyone would be able to check whether his/her vote was counted. At minimum it could be media event where Americans could voice their vision of America instead of contributing a sheeple fest.
The only choice we have for today is absolute boycott of elections as 150 millions of true American patriots are already doing and election after election vastly outnumbering electoral zombies of the American Oligarch Party in their inhumane march into poling/feeding stations to get their rotten meat and in the process to validate murder and mayhem done in our names.
For those who still think they can organize and win "their" election. Here is a gem. The fallacy of this sort of democracy is nowhere better illustrated than in case of Italy where for over 30 years after WWII Italian communist party alone or communist/socialist coalition WON EVERY SINGLE NATIONAL ELECTION and was never asked by president to form government resulting in 39 minority governments all under watchful eye of American protectors of democracy and US navy.
Do you know who we’re dealing with here” An autocratic system disguised as democratic chaos, fake uncertainty or illusion of chance and propaganda of opportunity for all. We might even win, one shot in a billion, in "their" elections but we would never get to rule without blood spilled in the streets.
The fact that the media is trying to assasinate Trump this early in the run indicates to me that he is their worst nightmare. That's enough for me! Go boy!
Trump actually has done something for himself and his family in the real world; the real world as you all know is harsh and unfair . Yes, he may come from a wealthy family, but most children from wealthy families never make it, they fuck up and are worthless; I've seen it myself. I don't know.
I liked Perot, but who really wanted to vote for a little jugged eared guy that looked like a mouse? I think that this was my first election vote, and I wasted it on him.
Do we want another bumbling Bush, that can't even speak English?; or a another Clinton that is a confirmed lesbian with a middle eastern fetish?
This Clinton lesbian can also speak in tongues. whatever that means...
So if you all want a Bush or Clinton, don't vote for Mr. Trump.
SH
Mr. Trump is nothing but a side show, distraction, vote borrower. It is an attempt (with which appears initially successful) to attract the mind numb dumb-masses to disregard all pragmatic logic and just say 'fuck it' - I'll vote for this guy because he 'truly has my best interset in mind'...
The USA is toasted and buttered, no easier way to put it.
Why vote anymore, I mean seriously - it makes no freekin difference. For example, my voice (and the majority) is heard and our vote counted, but the minority voice is heard and they somehow win... The entire politcal system/theatre is rigged, just like a casino or a 30 year mortgage!
Will I vote this next election - yes. But, I can assure it will be my last. My potential candidate will not win, he may not even be on the ballot - but I'm writing him in - my last attempt of feeling that "Your Vote Counts"...
I vote patriotism, accountability, hard work, self worth, morals, sound ethics, forgiveness, kindness, and logic. Unfortunately, my ideals are jurassaic - I am a dinosaur, destined for the extinction the main stream medium demands I deserve...
Who I am voting for... You figure it out.. Fuck off idiots!
To clarify - when I say 'f off' it is not directed toward ZH'ers (just to clarify - if needed).
Thanks for clarifying that, because I was getting ready to "f off"
3rd party
The Liberty Party
Dr. Mark Levin
This is not your fathers socialism
Trump's getting to be pretty unpopular in spanish speaking places.
http://lainfo.es/en/2015/07/09/mexican-congress-declared-persona-non-gra...
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article260537...
http://www.ctpost.com/entertainment/television/article/Hispanic-leaders-...
Jut like Syriza, sometimes your enemy's enemy's can become your friend.
Vote trump, asshole though he is, he is on the same side
JINDAL'S ALIVE????
He's not a Bilderberger. He's wasting his time.
solid name f16hoser!
notice ducklings, that although Jeb Bush and Rand Paul are exactly even, that Bush is placed ahead of Paul. this is how it works, now you look at the polls and say Bush is number 2, and Paul, well he is number 3. some smart ass is going to come now and tell me that is because Bush is 7.01% and Paul is 7% even, but do you think those small matters cannot be contrived to suit the interests of those who buy these elections with their purloined dollars from the federal reserve which issued them using taxpayer money? and they say you havent got a vote...
Well, at least people realize how terrible politicians are. I guess they don't realize Trump is a politician too (and one who just loves loopholes).
Merikans are pretty fed up with both Dems and Repugnicans looks like; they are begging for a real change and Trump may be their answer. Obviously many people are tired of Barry's not enforcing the immigration laws, rapid growth of the FSA, moar wars, etc. Since there's no diff between parties Dem and Rep, Trump offers a completely diff choice. He's not a far-left community organizer and not in the pockets of Wall Street. I'm sure he scares the heck out of them--the upper 1% and the FSA at th eother end.
I find it hard to believe the reaction MSM and so many companies have given him ... they obviously either don't care about thier middle class customers or are simply tryih too hard to be politically correct but it looks like it's going to backfire on them.
What if Ben Carson signed on to run as Vp before the convention. Would the repukelicans turn them out? Faster than you could close your eyes of you saw jeb and Hillary in the shower together. But how would they clear the general election with disenchanted trumpets and carsonites staying home rather than going with the pos jeb.
Reminds me of this Letter to the Editor, that in now way could have been written by Donald Trump. After all, everybody uses the English language like this, right?
http://lasvegassun.com/news/2015/apr/05/2016-year-donald-trump/
Trump I am ok with.
But how the fuck does Jeb "You need to work harder" Bush top Rand Paul?
I like Rand paul -but with the qualification that I belkeive he is gaming the establishment by espousing some positions that are not his true beliefs -that's politics. Trump is actually more favorable than any of the rest -though I despise him and would never vote for him in a general election where there will be several decent third party candidates.
I wasn't invited to the Council on Foreign Relations meeting, so I don't know who the elite have chosen for their next potus puppet, but I "think" it is Rand Paul. They need someone who can badmouth both the Republicans and the Democrats, the Bush and Clinton dynasties, and badmouth the Federal Reserve and the Government, so they can collapse them and bring in their global agenda. Rand Paul would be perfect for that, just like the idiot George Bush was perfect for 9-11, and Obama was perfect for trashing what was left of America.
If people here actually think the next anointed one, no matter who it is, will make a cunts hair worth of good difference in the world...............well, lets just say I guess I had this place figured all wrong.
that's what they said about Russia...
along with numerous bankos and smelly deals ? I doubt the donald could actuallly build a dog house on his own ? but we all live in massive illusions that pass for reality ? look around they are everywhere.
I cringe saying this...but after the last few presidents...Trump looks pretty good. What is left for him to fuck up?
At least half of the names on the list are Democrats.
Trump for President! Why the hell not? Speaking of running, why not elect the fastest runner in a 50 yard dash. Why not? Or how about we elect some Hollywood celebritard. A cartoon character? I vote for Homer Simpson. Random social security number? Or maybe we elect inanimate objects. I would vote for 44 magnum as President and a dildo for VP. "President Magnum how do you feel about gun control"? BOOM! That's how. And "Mr. Vice President can you tell us about some of your previous experiences"? Well, I've run into just about every asshole in town. I've been shit on, pissed on and bled on for most of my existence and now I can return the favor.
Or how about some brutal honesty. "Mr. President what will be your first action as President"? Well, all I can say is Billy Morgan my 5th grade bully is getting a cruise missile right about...now. Or "What do you plan to do about the uncontrollable national debt". Shit, we aint never going to pay that off and to all our bond holders I got a nuclear tipped cruise missile if you got a problem with that. Prez out!
We may as well elect a pro wrestler. Why the hell not. "Let me tell you something brother" Yeeeeeeaa Snap into a slim jim
We could go all nascar and have sponsors. The Prez and VP could have logos sewn onto their suits. "President Ford Lincoln Mercury brought to you by Toyota". Every press conference they would be surrounded by their endorsements. And every time the cam zoomed in they would take a sip of mountain spew or red turd. Why the fuck not.
"This bill signed into law by President Ford Lincoln Mercury brought to you by Vaseline...cause your going to need it".
He's probably a sideshow, but the guy doesn't speak in weasel word political speak so he cuts through.
It's tough to cut Trump down in the media because he's already working from the position of "i'm right, fuck you" and doesn't need to play nice.
You 'Murricans are about to be shafted by the Ultimate Bimbo Eruption and should relax and enjoy it.
I hope Rand Paul wins
What's the site record for number of comments? This has to be getting close.
Oh, yeah, the topic! Let's see, um, uh, ok: It's July 9/10 (location depending) of 2015. Do I really have to start pretending to give a fuck already?
http://albainternazionale.blogspot.it/2015/07/wikipedia-made-in-langley....
CIA, Langley, Wikipedia FAKE ?
Donald Trump's inheritance is estimated to have been between US$40 million and $200 million. His net worth, according to his financial disclosure earlier this month, is reportedly US$8,900 million. He has grown his inheritance 45 times over. The Donald gets no credit for that? It would be as if I had grown my inheritance to forty-five hundred bucks.
Given how rigged investment systems work: no.
Having hundreds of millions to start with vs basic costs of living, his preferred costs of living at each income+savings bracket he was in for each year... entirely different.
If Lee Harvey Oswald had a son he would be in his mid 30s maybe now,, just sayin
I'm voting for this guy. Hillary will be popping pills on TV before it's over.
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/articulo/english/2015/07/9/donald-trump-ac...
The ascendancy of Trump is an indication of the dis-satisfacion the base feels towards the (so called) GOP "leaders". Boner, Mc Connell and Priebus have created the perfect storm and Trump has set his sails for it.
Perhaps some other candidates will set their sails to take advantage of the storm.
I like that be is successful through his own hard work, with me, the i icing on the cake would be if he were a combat veteran, one that saw action, like Ike and Kennedy. The saw what war does to young men. When it had to be though, they saw it end with us the victors and our enemies fully surrendered
Vietnam, surrender?
Umm no.
Unfortunately, the good guys(gooder???) don't allways win, so you ought not paint with that broad a brush as regards combat service. The military is commanded by civilian leadership by design. You use the flag of the Army of Northern Virginia as your avatars. They didn't win. Nathan Bedford Forrest was a civilian who came up through the ranks. Jefferson Davis was a military man, yet he managed to leave the war in the west in the incompetent hands of Braxton Bragg!!! Sometimes ideology is very important and excellent leadership arises from where it is least expected. Keeping an open mind may be a better guide and don't sell Rand short.
Rand Paul is my only pick.
Only Rand Paul has the ideas that can save us from ourselves.
"The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen".
https://www.randpaul.com/
And boom goes the dynamite!
Prediction on the Republican nomination process going on currently in the US:
- Hillary is the most corrupt candidate on the ballot
- Sanders is a pure socialist, which is the LAST thing the US needs right now, but at least he tries to be philosophically consistent
- Republicans actually have some decent candidates like Scott Walker who could feasibly win the nomination
- Enter Donald Trump, who CLEARLY is not qualified to be President, as is evident by his extreme level of immaturity
- Trump is most likely working with the establishment Republicans to distract the people off these decent non-establishment Republican candidates
- Once he finally steps down, the other guys will have used up their advertising budgets, and Jeb will win the nomination by default
Either way, the US ends up with a Clinton or a Bush, and the same old corrupt bullshit continues on as before. There will be no detour for the US as it makes its way down the "Road to Serfdom"
PDF of the condensed version of the book "Road to Serfdom" here: http://stewartglass.net/readings/the_road_to_serfdom_in_cart.pdf