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Someone Pull The Plug Or This Will End In War
Submitted by Raul Ilargi Meijer via The Automatic Earth blog,
I was going to write up on the uselessness of Angela Merkel, given that she said on this week that “giving in to Greece could ‘blow apart’ the euro”, and it’s the 180º other way around; it’s the consistent refusal to allow any leniency towards the Greeks that is blowing the currency union to smithereens.
Merkel’s been such an abject failure, the fullblown lack of leadership, the addiction to her right wing backbenchers, no opinion that seems to be remotely her own. But I don’t think the topic by itself makes much sense anymore for an article. It’s high time to take a step back and oversee the entire failing euro and EU system.
Greece is stuck in Germany’s own internal squabbles, and that more than anything illustrates how broken the system is. It was never supposed to be like that. No European leader in their right mind would ever have signed up for that.
Reading up on daily events, and perhaps on the verge of an actual Greece deal, increasingly I’m thinking this has got to stop, guys, there is no basis for this. It makes no sense and it is no use. The mold is broken. The EU as a concept, as a model, has failed and is already a thing of the past.
It’s over. And anything that’s done from here on in will only serve to make things worse. We should learn to recognize such transitions, and act on them. Instead of clinging on to what we think might have been long after it no longer is.
Whatever anyone does now, it’ll all come back again. That’s guaranteed. So just don’t do it. Or rather, do the one thing that still makes any sense: Call a halt to the whole charade.
As for Greece: Just stop playing the game. It’s the only way for you not to lose it.
There’s no reason why European countries couldn’t live together, work together, but the EU structure makes it impossible for them to do just that, to do the very thing it was supposed to be designed for.
Germany runs insane surpluses with the rest of the EU, and it sees that as a sign of how great a country it is. But in the present structure, if one country runs such surpluses, others will need to run equally insane deficits.
Cue Greece. And Italy, Spain et al. William Hague for once was right about something when he said this week that the euro could only possibly have ended up as a burning building with no exits. This is going to lead to war.
Simple as that. It may take a while, and the present ‘leadership’ may be gone by then, but it will. Unless more people wake up than just the OXI voters here in Greece.
And the only reason for it to happen is if the present flock of petty little minds in Berlin, Paris, London and Brussels try to make it last as long as they can, and call for even more integration and centralization and all that stuff. The leaders are useless, the structure is painfully faulty, and the outcome is fully predictable.
Europe has no leadership, it has a varied but eerily similar bunch of people who crave the power they’ve been given, but lack the moral sturctures to deal with that power. Sociopaths. That’s what Brussels selects for.
And Brussels is by no means the only place in Europe that does that. What about people like Schäuble and Dijsselbloem, who see the misery in Greece and loudly bang the drum for more misery? What does that say about a man? And what does it say about the structure that allows them to do it? At times I feel like the Grapes of Wrath is being replayed here.
It’s nice and all to claim you’re right about something, but if your being right produces utter misery for millions of others, you’re still wrong.
Greece is not an abstract exercise in some textbook, and it’s not a computer game either. Greece is about real people getting hurt. And if you refuse to act to alleviate that hurt, that defines you as a sociopath.
Germany now, and it took ‘only’ 5 months, says Greece needs debt relief but it also says, through Schäuble: “There cannot be a haircut because it would infringe the system of the European Union.” That’s exactly my point. That’s silly. And looking around me here in Athens for the past few weeks, it’s criminally silly. You acknowledge what needs to be done, and at the same time you acknowledge the system doesn’t allow for what needs to be done. Time to change that system then. Or blow it up.
I don’t care what people like Merkel and Schäuble think or say, once people in a union go hungry and have no healthcare, you have to change the system, not hammer it down their throats even more. If you refuse to stand together, you can be sure you’ll fall apart.
Get a life. Greece should just default on the whole thing, and let Merkel and Hollande figure out the alleged Greek debt with their own domestic banking sectors. They’re the ones who received all the money that Greece is now trying to figure out a payback schedule for.
Problem with that is of course that very banking sector. They call the shots. The vested interests have far too much power on all levels. That’s the crux. But that’s also the purpose for which a shoddy construct like the EU exists in the first place. The more centralized politics are, the easier the whole thing is to manipulate and control. The more loopholes and cracks in the system, the more power there is for vested interests.
Steve Keen just sent a link to an article at Australia’s MacroBusiness, that goes through the entire list of new proposals from the Syriza government, and ends like this:
Tsipras Has Just Destroyed Greece
This is basically the same proposal as that was just rejected by the Greek people in the referendum. There are some headlines floating around about proposed debt restructuring as well but I can’t find them. This makes absolutely no sense. The Tsipras Government has just:
• renegotiated itself into the same position it was in two months ago;
• set massively false expectations with the Greek public;
• destroyed the Greek banking system, and
• destroyed what was left of Greek political capital in EU.
If this deal gets through the Greek Parliament, and it could given everyone other than the ruling party and Golden Dawn are in favour of austerity, then Greece has just destroyed itself to no purpose. Markets are drawing comfort from the roll over but how Tsipras can return home without being lynched by a mob is beyond me. And that raises the prospect of any deal being held immediately hostage to violence.
Yes, it’s still entirely possible that Tsipras submitted this last set of proposals knowing full well they won’t be accepted. But he’s already gone way too far in his concessions. This is an exercise in futility.
It’s time to acknowledge this is a road to nowhere. From where I’m sitting, Yanis Varoufakis has been the sole sane voice in this whole 5 month long B-movie. I think Yanis also conceded that it was no use trying to negotiate anything with the troika, and that that’s to a large extent why he left.
Yanis will be badly, badly needed for Greece going forward. They need someone to figure out where to go from here.
Just like Europe needs someone to figure out how to deconstruct Brussels without the use of heavy explosives. Because there are just two options here: either the EU will -more or less- peacefully fall apart, or it will violently blow apart.
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blow apart? War between who and whom? Does Greece even have an army? Remember Europe is a US vassal, and that's coming from a European.
tsipras pull down his pant, greek people are furious...
expect riots and pro EU swap in gov and go ahead for another couple of years.
i hope greece tells em: 'pull my finger.'
World War 3, the final war of the old human specie.
World is perpetual war because, even if is bring destruction for many, is means for extraction of wealth by bankster class few.
Bankster class needs a new set of rules. Apparently there are no rules on lending money. As a Bank you can lend money to anyone..even if common sense says there is no way they can afford the loan. My simple proposal...if there are no rules on lending...there should be no rules on paying the loan back. This would make you a bit more careful on who you loaned money to. Simple to implement for a government and would balance this whole shit show out......real true free capitalism free for all.
Crime of bankster class is not lend money, but is lend money of other people and capture all interest and profit while is present only risk for depositor and general population. Pathological mind of bankster is only focus on control of wealth, not creation of wealth.
Pawns in the Game William Guy Carr
Just put gold back in money and the EU is dead, as is the Fed..
and the BIS.
Drachma to Euro is not reversible conversion, as same as gold/silver/copper to fiat note. Fractional reserve banking cannot unwind except through collapse and outright war. Clamore bellis!
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Let me get this straight. The people said NO. The govt is not doing what the people said in a supposed democracy. Thus the people are gathering so they can go into the offices of these traitors and kick them out, but the traitors call out the goon squads against the people. This is not a democracy. If it was these politicians would either willingly leave the offices if they disagree with the people, or be thrown out the windows.
It's ALL smoke and mirrors.
They can rig/manipulate elections, LIBOR, gold markets, stock markets......
They could make all debt "vanish" if they wanted. Math skills. Accounting tricks. Rehypothecation. Emperors new clothes.
Where's the debt. I don't know. It was here a minute ago.
Poof !!!
gone
Pull the plug and it Implant Chips for all...
http://galeinnes.blogspot.com/2015/07/economics-for-serfs.html
How many of him are there?
Volkodav - All this fucken sucks. I imagine you know how all of this behavior ends. It is predictable.
A shame we Americans missed a historic
opportunity with the Russian people. Your people have made some mistakes these last twenty years but we made serious blunders. Best of luck to you and yours. Hopefully, see you on the other side.
Banksters are tool users, government is the tool. If they aren't wielding it, some other group will be and they'll also be psychopaths.
Not quite Boris. Banks lend money THAT THEY CREATE FROM NOTHING UPON THE SIGNING OF THE DEBT NOTE/LOAN. They do not lend other people's money, THAT's the big lie that they want us to believe. BIG difference.
So, anybody else here think that every politician at every level needs to answer one simple question : Do you support the current monetary system of bankers creating money from nothing or do you support a return to honest money that no man or entity has any right to create from nothing and collect interest on every unit created?
All else totally agree with and always enjoy your posts Boris. me upvote u cuz u too funny!
Dear Mr. Boss,
Boris is disagree with respect - money is NOT wealth, but is instrument for conveyance of wealth. In greasy hand of bankster, money is vehicle for theft. When bank is lend from capital reserve, is use wealth of depositor, when is lend by fiat creation on check ledger, is use wealth of general population. So, bank is not create wealth, is only convey, tax, and steal wealth.
Sincerely,
Boris
Okboss, one further refinment,
banks, credit card companies etc. create "debt" out of thin air.
"THEY CREATE FROM NOTHING UPON THE SIGNING OF THE DEBT NOTE/LOAN."
Also not quite correct, as they need to respect certain ratios, not ?
Sometimes yes, sometimes no, and often those ratios are so small that they might as well not exist.
bank uses debt to double down---you sign--your purchase price goes from fractional reserves (from the FED) to vender as an asset in his account (deposit). Thats a bank deposit. Your debt (with interest) is an asset on the bank balance sheet. Bank keeps the money they payed your vender, plus have your IOU that most often has collateral attached(additional asset). Bank packages loans (debt) as investment vehicles and sells them to your employers pension fund. Bank uses all the above to use as collateral for margine loans to purchase assets in the market which are most likely bad debt which they mark to fantacy giving them additional assets to borrow against. Of course they pass the assets around (hypothication) so every bank can use the assets to borrow against. This works well bcause all the rating agencys say its all good. ---somthing like that--
. Crime of bankster class is not lend money, but is lend money out of thin air.
Fixed it for you Boris...
Boris you leave me speechless and laughing . .your insight with dialect .... superb.
Europe has no leadership, it has a varied but eerily similar bunch of people who crave the power they’ve been given, but lack the moral sturctures to deal with that power. Sociopaths. That’s what Brussels selects for.
But dont you see, those are their "leaders", those are the people who are always "leaders", and that is why we don't need "leaders". Because they're all motherfucking sociopaths.
The problem is that there is no 'good guy' in this story. Fuck all those banks and the feckless politicians that cater to them. But the Greeks and varofukis are, at the end of the day, socialists who are demanding more money that they don't have to spend on their glorious welfare state. They borrowed billions of dollars to fund all of this(which should never have been lent in Te first place) with criminals like Goldman enabling them, and now can barely afford to keep the lights on due to the interest payments eating up so much money. Their solution is to get the debt written off, but even then, with a 50% haircut on the debt, they STILL couldn't pay for all that shit without borrowing money again. I do feel a little bad for the average Greek who has very little say in any of this, but they have been voting for socialists like these current clowns for decades , and this is what socialist governments do.
These new politicians will not fix anything. Sound money and free markets are the only way to get back to an honest, sustainable economic future. I haven't heard one Greek or EU politician mention either of those things
I logged in for the sole purpose to upvote this completely correct anaylsis- and to explicitly state that this is precisely my perspective on the situation.
Agreed, except that I will disagree with the notion that people "voting" has much to do with the situation, in that I belive the entire process is rigged before voting has even begun. Even assuming the politician "voted" for makes it to office, they will quickly be "reminded" who is really in charge, and what the best course of action "really" is.
AMEN brother .. gald to seee someone thinking outside the old paradigm. Voting changes nothing or very little .. policies are not made by polticians they are made by various interests and politicians rubber stamp them .. in the case of Greece.. their ruling class SCREWED Them over regardless of which NITWIT was in Athens smiling for the cameras and saying they are the fearless leader... if we learn anything from all this .. we do not control anything .. except bare minimum of our lives.. others do the real moving and shaking . .at least for the last 102 years or so.
I think you are wrong about Varafoukis. He was the one pushing for debt write downs or outright forgiveness. Once he was forced out Tspiras was shown to be the weak sister willing to "play along" with this decades long charade.
Remember it was Tspiras who admitted he hoped the referendum would fail. Instead he is going against the people's vote and keeping Greece a slave to Germany and the bankster mafia. For this I hope he is hung from a lamp post.
They needed to push this to the limit with nationalization of the banks, new drachma and total debt repudiation. Varifoukis saw that his PM decided to cave and wisely resigned. Stay tuned to this station because eventually match dictates this MUST be the outcome.
Y'all's hero worship of this guy is a little bit ridiculous, IMO. He is a socialist finance minister looking for debt write offs. And then what? If they had ZERO debt they still couldn't find their bloated govt and their welfare state without borrowing money. What varafoulkis and his ilk are saying is that they need this debt written off so the economy can grow again, and they need an end to austerity as well. What does an end to austerity mean? SPENDING MOAR MONEY. deficit spending, higher taxes on the few Greeks in the public sector. Varafoukis is not a hero, he is a garden variety socialist offering noting new.
With people like him in charge you could reset the debt back to zero and they'd be right back in the same situation in a few years, borrowing as much as stupid, corrupt institutions are willing to lend them.
In fact it doesn't matter what they spent the money on. All that matters is the funamental, brutally obvious, unavoidable observation: Greeks were fine with becoming a democracy, with joining the EU, with establishing a welfare state, with producing nothing, with trying to emulate their wealthier northern neighbors, with accession to the eurozone through fraud, with adoption of the euro, with running deficits, expanding government liabilities, failing to service debts, electing status quo politicians and then technocrats and now Syriza simply because it had a feel-good message. They were fine with all of this up to the very second they individually stopped feeling wealthier, then, suddenly, it was all a vast Brussels/German/IMF capitalist conspiracy to enserf the poor Greeks who did nothing wrong whatsoever.
Where was the outrage when Greece was accepted into the eurozone? Or when euros began to circulate? When the government began to run deficits? When Greece first accepted a bailout? None, none, none. All they did was vote. The outcome was inevitable from the moment Greeks accepted (enthusiastically) the euro.
You cannot be rationally consistent if you demand and accept a welfare state but refuse to pay for it, and then refuse to pay the debts taken out to fund it. There is zero possibility of justified outrage when a population demands a service, completely refuses to directly and fully fund it, then ends up in debt for it.
No one invaded Greece and pointed loaded guns at everyone for every (or even a single) day of the past 3 decades. Greeks asked for everything and they got it. Now it is time to pay.
Greeks = consumers. IMF, Troika, political parties, Germany, ECB, et al = producers. Any attempt to blame supply for meeting demand will end in failure, supply will always meet demand. Greeks can either learn thrift and self-discipline, save rather than spend, invest rather than buy on credit, refuse handouts, refuse deficits, pay all debts immediately, reject political promises, refuse anything they can't afford, forcibly dissolve any government that cannot balance its budget every year, implement only programs that can pay their own way, etc. etc. etc. - all entirely common-sense notions, or they can be debt serfs to unaccountable powers forever. There is no viable third way. The only winning move is not to play the vendor-finance game.
But what will actually happen is, Greece will lose eurozone membership (Monday or in 5 years, no difference), learn nothing, admit no fault, continue merrily down the neverending road to serfdom. You can never run out of targets to blame.
Amen.
Kind of like the direction th U.S. Is headed in.
As a Bank you can lend money YOU DO NOT HAVE, to anyone
FIFY
US, Europe, GB, Aust, same banker cabal. No war in Europe unless it is with other banker cabals i.e. BRICS banker vassals.
Exactly, the war hasn't ended since 1910. There has not been a single year on record that the earth has not been at war or busy shitting in every corner. It is all they do and all they know how to do. There is no reason to intervene in a problem that will eventually escalate and finish everyone off. Much better idea to enjoy the time remaining before someone does something stupid.
I am beginning to think that specie is not the word you're looking for
World War 4 will be fought with rocks and sticks.
If there's anyone left to fight it. Tens of thousands of nuclear weapons destroying hundreds of nuclear power plants = nuclear winter x1,000. Nothing but rare strains of bacteria will survive.
"clamabunt vastitas et solve canes bellum"
All road is lead to war... cry havoc and release dog of war!
yeay, and I wont be in it.
U guys go ahead and kill each other over the fiat debt.
I'll take care of your gurls.
... "Tsipras Has Just Destroyed Greece "
... ... just a reminder ... the official name of Greece is "Hellenic Republic" ...
Hellina Basket Republic
TPTB know exactly what they are doing and as they are trying to control what the outcome will be...
Boris is never quite figure, is TPTB antithesis of TBTF, as like "too poor to bother"? Either way, TPTB is perpetually in lost state.
"When men as beasts be led into the field and cryed 'Havocke', let each man take his part."
"Illegitimati non carborundum!"
International Socialism must be destroyed
Only socialism is international socialism because local socialism is work but is too quick run out of money. Corrolary is socialism is not toleration of dissent - participation is never option. That is true evil of socialism, not sharing of wealth, or of work, but thin veil over absolute tyranny.
... but what is Boris know!?
Europe isn't socialist though in anyway shape or form. It is pure unadulterated fascism/corporatism just as it ever was in Europe
"we are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system"
-Adolf Hitler
“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power”
- Benito Mussolini
If it was socialism the people would own the businesses and banks that gain from the current EU situation. It was very clever of the media to depict Fascism 2.0 as socialism. Having high welfare bills in Europe isn't because the governments want to hand out money it because it allows big business to pay crap wages that are then topped up with government money. The only people who are benefitting from the European welfare states are the business that pay crap wages and the banks that fund the debt.
However, having said that whatever you want to call it it needs got rid of!
Political spectrum beween capitalism and socialism is false analog. Spectrum is better clear to evaluate individual freedom and control by state (status quo). Facism and Communism is then reveal to be same tyranny, different in name only.
... but what is Boris know!?
It's all divide and rule. Split the opposition and consolidate control. How else can you describe poor people arguing about left and right while the banks and government steal their money.
producer capitalism vs
finance capitalism
build vs steal
dbl post
sorrie...
Y'know Boris, for all of your twisted english language, you are a pretty smart guy.
Boris is attend technical school in many place include of Harbin, China.
Okay, is maybe only work as custodial engineer, but Boris is learn much by read chalk board before erasure.
Bender: No, I just want to know how one becomes a janitor. Because, you see, Brian here is very interested in pursuing a career in the custodial arts.
Carl: Oh really? You guys think I'm just some untouchable peasant? Serf? Peon? Well, maybe so. But following a broom around after shitheads like you for the last 8 years, I've learned a couple of things. I look through your letters. I look through your lockers. I listen to your conversations, you don't know that but I do. I am the eyes and ears of this institution, my friends.
I bet you got an 'A' in Pig Latin. You certainly have mastered both bull and bear English. Your Chinese needs more dragon, however.
p.s. I also noticed your resemblance to Matt Damon.
Whatever you want to call it, North Korea is one experiment among many, and has proven itself to be sustainable.
The world will not look like Mao's China, it will look like North Korea.
North Korea is prove to be sustainable, as much sustainable as 1953 armistiice. Calculation of human cost of mortality and freedom is of course different conversational topic.
You, of course, assume that the cost of mortality and freedom is a concern of our masters. No, there is no concern over these matters.
North Korea is the template for our future, until even that breaks down as humanity's DNA is completely destroyed by nuclear radiation.
This isn't a debate, it's a fact. The only question is how soon, and the pace is accelerating.
Now, if you believe in some kind of 'Hope and Change', by all means, enjoy yourself.
No hope, all change. Change is mechanism by which devil cheat citizenry of their soul.
Better check again, many North Koreans are dying of starvation.
And does anyone in a corporate boardroom care? No. And now with Obama signing away US sovereignty, and more countries in the process, these same corporations will now run things far more than they already do.
There are a thousand concentration camps across the US, and each one has a large cremation oven. Fully staffed, all ready to go.
And if you're not in the US, I suggest you look to see if they're being built in your country.
Yet they survive. Fascinating.
" Facism and Communism is then reveal to be same tyranny, different in name only."
If that was true, fascism (as in corporatism/corporate state rule a la Mussolini/banana republic/USA) wouldn't have fought communism so bitterly. It would have embraced it with both arms wide open and a big happy smile.
Communism is the fiercest enemy of corporate rule/fascism/capitalism - a bit too much, in my opinion. Since it is a natural human disposition based on the need of survival and the fear of tomorrow, silencing greed* is not a good way of getting rid of it. You want to rein it in instead.
*Capitalism is nothing else than institutionalized relentless greed.
Quite a big army actually due to us buying from germany and france with the reason being turkey!
So yes... we got an army... im not so sure if we got enough people to operate it though!
So that's the real question ;p
I'll put forth the proposition that it is a good time to be a soldier of fortune that speaks Greek and German.
Or Arabic/Chechen and Ukrainian. Or English...
Greece has an army?
The dudes with the pom poms on their shoes & the funny hats?
Greece has enough equipment to defend itself against Turkey without EU support.
Off Topic, sorry...this just in: "Want to kill people? Join the Police"
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It was one of four fatal police shootings that occurred on Thursday — the others were in Chicago, Phoenix and Parowan, Utah.
The 500th fatal police shooting comes amid a particularly deadly stretch — at least two people have been shot and killed by police every single day so far this month. At least 31 people were shot and killed by police officers during the first week of July, making it the deadliest such week of the year so far. On Tuesday, officers across the country shot and killed eight people, the most police shootings that have occurred on any single day in 2015.
The number of people shot and killed so far this year tracked by The Post easily exceeds the figures reported by the FBI for any single year since 1976. The federal data, which officials acknowledge is incomplete, relies on voluntary reporting from just a sliver of the nation’s more than 13,000 state and local police departments. While the FBI has never recorded more than 460 fatal police shootings in an entire year, The Post identified 463 such shootings in just the first six months of 2015.
Getting ready.
I would not think being a member of the 'Thin Blue Line' is a good job opportunity right now.
I give them great respect for what they do overall, always have, but the shit they have to deal with on a daily basis - and what's coming - is terrible.
You see the Key and Peele sketch from the other night?
Of course, they're playing up the racial angle but still - funny as heck.
The EU is not a US vassal. The EU and the US are UN vassals under control of the banking families. This type propaganda just muddies the waters.
That Europe has no independence of its own is the main point, that we no doubt agree on.
My little toe's a twitchin' which indicates to me that a Color Revolution *cough* "by The People" demanding that Greece agree to EU/IMF terms is right around the corner.
As usual, this one will come straight from the playbook of Virginia Farmboys, LLC.
Greece has one of the greatest armies in Europe. They are a bastion against the Turks since the ottoman empire fell. Remember Turkey invaded cyprus, and still ocupies half of it. Something the EU-leaders do not talk about.
Greeks will throw olive pits at the Germans
Summary: Either it will end up bad or it won't
There is worse out there. Podemos is led by old school burn it all to the ground anarchists and if they get power they WILL get a war. The ECB doesn't want debt forgiveness since the knock on effects would be bad. However if Greece repudiates their debt the ECB would have to be heavily recapitalized and the EU countries don't have the money. The deal as it is right now would put off the inevitable and make Greece a slave state. There are no winners, only losers.....
Fuck, another moron invades ZH. They will QE to the moon, just like the fed and jap central bank. Or have you been asleep the past 7 years.
They could recapitalize the ECB via bank clawbacks . . . like that will ever happen.
EU QE expanding daily. Debt to the moon. Derivatives to beyond the far reaches of the galaxy.
There will be more than just a pound of flesh to pay
A Reading from the Book of Armaments, Chapter 4, Verses 16 to 20:
Then did he raise on high the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, saying, "Bless this, O Lord, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy." And the people did rejoice and did feast upon the lambs and toads and tree-sloths and fruit-bats and orangutans and breakfast cereals ... Now did the Lord say, "First thou pullest the Holy Pin. Then thou must count to three. Three shall be the number of the counting and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither shalt thou count two, excepting that thou then proceedeth to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the number of the counting, be reached, then lobbest thou the Holy Hand Grenade in the direction of thine foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.
Is apt demonstration of chiasmus in Hebrew and Old English literature, no?
There you are using the "chiasmus" word on ZH. Most Americans have never even heard of it. How did you learn of it?
Boris is not full of the stinky at all.
Maybe you are read Bible and then you are see chiasmus in word of Isaiah.
da da is overlap in real
Boris is apt in demonstration of chiasmus in Russian and English. Yes.
Chiasmus is a rhetorical device in which two or more clauses are balanced against each other by the reversal of their structures in order to produce an artistic effect.
“Never let a Fool Kiss You or a Kiss Fool You.”
Notice that the second half of the above mentioned sentence is an inverted form of the first half both grammatically and logically.
Or in the vernacular of the street.
"It's ok to Prick Your Finger, but not Finger Your Prick"
You can pick friend, you can pick nose, but you are not can pick nose of friend. Boris try this when young and now is suffer traumatic rheumatoid in index joint.
Uncyc :D
Euro program was destined to fail but don't put blame on anyone who won't bet on a dead horse. Greece, and many others to come, have made their socialist decisions.
It may end in civil war in Greece.
Or more likely, a miltary takeover.
And the military coup requires sending in those nice Pakistani and Nigerian young men wearing the powder blue helmets. I'm sure it will all go swimmingly.
They did such a good job in Haiti.
They haven't had a military coup since 1967. Must be time
That's why Tspiras, quite wisely, assigned the defense ministry to right-wing nationalists rather than pushing for a coalition with the Communist Party. A military coup at the highest levels is unlikely although renegade generals could probably be bribed to do the deed.
How many ancient civilizations exist today?
Mankind has been forming civilizations for 5000 years and none of them has stood the test of time.
Looking at today's mess, I can only assume small, but powerful vested interests destroy them all.
Elites may tell you they know what they are doing, but 5000 years of evidence suggests that they don't.
Are things really different today?
2008 - How did that happen?
the last of them were brought down 1400 years ago bij Islam, the byzantine & persian. And now they are aiming at the west again. Just wait.
Japan has been gearing up for war the past 3 years, even amending thier constitution to allow for offensive weapons. Germany has started producing a lot of tanks. The US is going gangbusters as far as military hardware and has pushed NATO to weaponize eastern Poland.
China, ditto. Russia, ditto.
My money is still on China having to go to war for the Spratly's to galvanize the people at home. No fucking way they will allow a revolution in country.
Fuck, fuck fuck. Fuckers are not taking my kids to fight.
Nor mine as well.
The internet is the game changer. Too many people know more about history than what the history books of any idividual country present.
BandGap, can you cite where Germany is producing more tanks? I'm aware of Japan clearly beefing up their military capacity, but the suggestion about Germany is something that I have not heard.
My understanding is that the Germans boast a whopping 200 tanks in their entire inventory. For perspective, Poland claims more thank triple this figure.
And of course we all know Russia maintains a major tank superiority, though it is not exactly all in the headline figure. They have a lot of T-72s in storage that probably would only be of any use well after the front has been pushed deep into the Continent.
Up to this point, the EU has by and large depended on the US to be their means of protection. UK is sort of in a different category, and even France given that they maintain nuclear weapons and a much larger military than most rest of the EU.
But effectively speaking, if it were ever 'game on', were the US somehow unable to dominate through techno-weaponry, I have the sense that Russia would eventually mobilize and could sweep through. Sadly Europe is as mindnumbingly nutty as we are (apropos a nearly completely emasculated male populace and transsexualism/homoism being the leading cultural current of the day.)
Why would he be willing to look so weak , if he knows it will not be accepted. Make no sense. (At least to me)
He was threatened? He's stalling for more time? He's a little bitch?
When looking at any politician in any country, if you assume they are a little bitch you will be able to predict with some degree of accuracy what their response would be to a given event.
Tsipras for hope and change ? ? ?
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2015/02/21/the-assassinat...
What does aggregate trading surplus's or deficits have to do with anything? New York would probably have a trade surplus with Mississippi but nobody cares about that. the important thing is if the supplier is paid by buyer.
A federation or any cooperative group has to accept that there will be less productive individuals and regions which will always need support.
Never mind Greece - wait to the EU acting for the US gets its way and incorporates Ukraine!
Then you will see some big time support needed - and forever.
He is either a genius for knowing they won't accept or a traitor and a fool for grovelling back to them.
It is probably the later.
Either way it is going to end in tears for the EU dream.
The very concept of having all these unique and diverse countries under one umbrella never should have been implemented. Humans are social creatures but tend to stay with their 'own' and inherently distrust 'outsiders' - it's just human nature. When humans decide to grow up and act like we're actually at the top of the food chain - then and only then might something like the European Union work.
Human nature will kill the planet and its creatures long before we grow up. Once you accept it gets easier.
I hate to say it but that is the reason why dreamers dream of things like the UN, EU and other "new world order" structures. Because when it comes down to it, humans cannot control their nature to destroy each other and the world around them.
Unfortunately, sociopaths will always find a way to create tyranny no matter how societies are structured. There really is no way for humans to live peacefully and sustainably with nature.
Right. It would probably be better of leaders, academics , politicians, the clergy etc accepted this and publicly stated this a starting point to ordering society. As it is they all pretend to be saints in public while acting out devious strategies, knowing that the public will not figure it out.
The public by and large will be good dogs, following every law and rule, giving back their earnings to the state and every conniving enterprise that preys on them and sacrificing their children to preserve the life styles of their rulers.
Other than that I am placid and optimistic.
Vlad has a good question:
Putin: Where was EU when Greek crisis was evolving?http://rt.com/news/272962-putin-greece-european-commisssion/
F you and your backwoods flag you turd.
To quote a liberal: if it offends you, don't look.
Maybe he should have prefaced his comment with a "trigger warning" - for pussies like you.
SEXIST!
That's Vagino-American to you.
C'mon, Tylers. Some folks are very sensitive to microaggression.
@meister: No, maybe toothless pill poppers like yourself should understand that flaming racism is not cute nor should be tolerated; understood dckface? Smh
Lighten up, dude. But better you vent here than take your lack of impulse control out into the streets and start knocking out little old ladies.
Ordinary racism is somewhat tolerable but "flaming racism" is an outrage and a bridge too far!!
@vic : sorry abuot that, I'm straight now :-)
Regretfully I have only ONE down-vote to cast.
You're welcome.
I hope it pisses off all you yankee-doodles. Fuck you too.
inbred turd, you can't help yourself. People like you deserve to lose America
I'm not from the south, but I'm tempted to fly that flag with the specific intent of making people like you get butthurt.
If only we could ban the Confederate flag, our troubles would be solved. Squirrel!
Logged in just to down vote you for dissing the Southern Cross
@TeaClipper: the South was stomped on, sort of how you should be. Now go back to your pills and your loser country.
Are you black? even American?
He is likely a sexually frustrated Muslim that failed Islamic State's minimum recruit standards.
The important thing is that he IDENTIFIES as black American.
@JonNadler: I'm Kenyan BEAATCH ! So if I posted a swatika flag, would that be ok? Anyways, I'm over it now, until I see his flag posting pic again, not sure why people can't be about unity when there's so much divising us as Americans. peace out
Sound like a good little Nazi.
Shut the fuck up, Donnie.
Chunga - Putin is taking advantage of our empires leaders hubris and stupidity. Same we did to the Soviets leadership. Wisely, he is consolidating energy resources. If too far cornered the bear will hit the big red button and accept 30% tactical losses for breathing room. It is there culture.
Can't root for a guy that may cause my death even though a bit more blame may be placed at the feet of my own leadership at this moment...
Some study of Nash game theory can be useful. For a simple illustration it is still 'King of the Hill.' I do respect Putin's nationalism but it is easier when your no longer an empire. As for us we shouldnt have become one to begin with.
I think the condition that Raul describes across the EU/EZ towards Greece is "psychopathic cognitive dissonance".
Once a person gets into that mindset, the only cure is a length of rope and a nearby lamp post.
OT: Just to change subjects for the sake of sanity.
http://m.msnewsnow.com/msnewsnow/db_330626/contentdetail.htm?contentguid...
Yesterday, ZH posted a Flowchart of What Happens Next To Greece*
My question was, and is:
1. Where's the Flowchart path that shows (a) Tsipras Iscariot getting paid 30 pieces of Ag, and (b) Greece getting crucified?
2. Will V become Greek's "St. Petrus"? Go Varoufakis!
* http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-09/what-happens-next-greece-2-simp...
Yanis Varoufakis should go for president. He'd get elected.
"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."- Martin Luther King, Jr.
There won't be a shooting war in the EU because there are no viable EU militaries.
The USSA will be more than happy to pick a side and put the chief Droner to work.
That's why the US is bringing in ISIS/IS/ISIL. Do you think they'll just be used in Ukraine alongside the Nazis? Recruiting is through the roof, and they're getting well trained.
And for what the US is paying them, they'll wear blue helmets, too.
We're not even into the second act of this shitshow.