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Serbian Prime Minister Narrowly Escapes "Assassination" Attempt
Just over a century ago last month, the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand in Sarajevo sparked The Great War (or the "not so Great War" if you were unfortunate enough to be sitting in the muddy trenches of Western Europe) that would in many ways shape the 20th century.
On Saturday, just 80 miles east of Sarajevo, Serbian Prime Minister Aleksandar Vucic survived an “assassination” attempt while making an appearance at a ceremony in Srebrenica to commemorate the massacre of some 8,000 Muslims by Serb soldiers in 1995.
As a refresher, here’s what happened in Srebrenica, via CNN:
Starting on July 11, 1995, for three days, the ethnic Serb forces gunned down Muslim boys and men in and around Srebrenica. The sight of their broken bodies dumped into mass graves, belongings lining roadsides, and carnage strewn across fields forced the world's eyes onto a broader campaign of ethnic cleansing.
Weeks after Srebrenica, NATO jets bombed Bosnian Serb positions for two weeks in Operation Deliberate Force. The Serbs surrendered, and months later both sides signed an accord worked out in Dayton, Ohio.
Vucic — a nationalist turned-pro-European moderate — attended the ceremony in what he thought would be perceived as a concilliatory gesture. That, apparently, was a miscalculation. Here's CBS:
As Vucic entered the cemetery to lay flowers, thousands booed and whistled. A group of women from Belgrade, Serbia, who for years are demanding Serbia to admit it's role in the slaughter, yelled "responsibility!" and "genocide!"
Someone threw a shoe at him, others threw water bottles and other objects. The crowd eventually chased Vucic away from the ceremony. A few people carried banners with his own wartime quote: "For every killed Serb, we will kill 100 Bosniaks."
The "masses broke the fences and turned against us," Vucic's associate, Suzana Vasiljevic told AP.
As CBS goes on to note, the issue has clear impications for modern geopolitics:
This week, Russia vetoed a proposed U.N. Security Council resolution condemning the Srebrenica crime on request of Serbia because it contained the word "genocide." In return, Srebrenica organizers withdrew an invitation to the Russian ambassador for Saturday's ceremony.
Following the Russian veto, the European Parliament and the U.S. House of Representatives recognized the crime as genocide and foreign dignitaries - including Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu and Jordan's Queen - repeated the word in their speeches.
President Barrack Obama said in a statement that "Only by holding the perpetrators of the genocide to account can we offer some measure of justice to help heal their loved ones. And only by calling evil by its name can we find the strength to overcome it."
Here are the visuals of Vucic's 'brush with death':
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Banksters, playing as Gangsters. Serbia must comply to the USSA by reconciling with Bosnia or gets the hose.
C'mon history, let's show some sense of originality.
tick tock boom http://vimeo.com/132616261
World War 3 draws nearer.
Don't ask me why but I love to see government assholes running in fear and ducking for cover....
This is ridiculous. The only place where this is described as an "assassination attempt" is in the Zero Hedge headline and article.
If it's that hard to get people to click on a ZH article without having to tart them up with sensationalist bullshit then just fold it up and walk away already.
Pathetic.
I am Chumbawamba.
At least one oldskool Tylers is still around, or we wouldn't see some of the good pieces that are still put out (becoming fewer?). Many new Tylers are just MSM-link Tylers - that was quite apparent with the ZH tabloid submodule addition a couple of years ago, probably around the same time that Mike Snyder and them started being featured here (and Snyder primarily links to ZH in his articles). This "assassination" shit is sourced from CNN and CBS lol. Coulda just turned on the teevee if I wanted to hear that noise.
Nope, I followed both links, searched the text, the word "assassination" does not appear anywhere in either. It is a complete ZH fabrication, and a sad ass one at that.
I realize ZH is just a click-generating money engine now but come on, do it with a minimal level of class at least.
-Chumblez.
People yelling at a politician constitutes an "assassination" attempt?
We don't know, we have no experience to guide us. No one is allowed to yell at Odumbo. Would love to try it on camera. Bet I'd be hauled off to Gitmo and waterboarded for that!
Interesting how Obozo always has a comment about holding those accountable for crimes against other people when it suits his political agenda, but when it doesn't, like when an illegal immigrant with rap sheet as long as my arm kills a young girl ina santuary city, he has absolutely no fucking comment. He's not about hope and change and he never has been, and h's not even a narciissist, he's way to cunning for that...he is the most ruthless pathological politician this country has seen in the office of the President. He always does what he needs to do to win the popluarity contest, that way he can keep control of his ignorant uninformed disciples. WIth that control he procedes to dismantle this country in a way that has never before been done at the pace it has been done. Barry's legacy may well be as the proponent of the next great war of attrition, because he certainly does a great job of dividing people and the natives are certainly getting restless.
We're quoting CNN? The Clinton News Network?
Imagine any American national-level politician getting that close to real people, not pre-screened.
Yeah. Like failing to mention that Srebrenice masacre only happened after Mujahideen from that "demilitarized" zone went on rampage, burning vilages, churches and killing 3500 Serbs, mostly elderly, women and children. "Serb forces" that commited the Srebrenica masacre were actually men from the area, akin to National Guard in USA, that just withnessed their houses gone in flames and their parents, wives, children and relatives killed. I'm not justifying the Srebrenica masacre, but puting a bit of context around it explains why it happened.
Also, the level of hypocricy exibited by the EU and USA oficials is revolting. “We must never let that happen again!” Yet, they have no problem letting even bigger number of people from North Africa and Middle East drown in Med every single month (after wrecking their countries on false flags).
Sickening!
Ironic:
Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu... repeated the word in their speeches.
Because, you know, the Turks would never stoop to such atrocities (Kurds, any one?).
Or Armenians? Or anyone unlucky to be their neighbour?
Hey! Drones don't count!
Just kidding; dark humor. I certainly didn't exclude one of the Earth's most hypocritical governments in my comment. I just didn't include them. I'm acutely aware of its past toward "them other folks." Being one of that country's neighbors, I keep a wary eye in that direction. That said, you've made a valid point: just about every country/culture has its skeletons. The road of history is long, paved more in blood than stone.
Oh, you said Armenians? I thought you said Americans. My bad.
Personally I like the term "ethnic Albanians". It sounds so much nicer than "Muslims".
Ethnic Albanians is actually very accurate. Yes they are muslim, but they are in Kosovo because they migrated there. From what I read Tito (the president of Yugoslavia) was a Croat and did not like Serbians very much. He was at least partially responsible for the Albanian migration into Kosovo, which is a ancient part of Serbia
Ethnic Albanians migrated in Kosovo?
I would like to smoke the same stuff as you are.
Albanians have been living in the aera for thousand and thousand of years even before the greeks appeared.
Slavs started arriving in the Balkans in 7th century AD only, so keep your propaganda BS.
And no, Albanians are not muslims, more than 50% are agnostics, the rest is muslim, roman catholic and christian orthodox by tradition.
Study the history of that region and learn the language because you are totally wrong. Your pathetic comment is an insult to the 12 million Serb victims that gave their life since 1878 to defend the lands were Serbs settled first!
Plus, the Serbs were oppressed by the damn Ottoman Empre from 1389 to 1912!
Your comment has absolutely no facts and hard evidence to back it up!!!
Ethnic Albanians migrated in Kosovo?
I would like to smoke the same stuff as you are.
Albanians have been living in the aera for thousand and thousand of years even before the greeks appeared.
Slavs started arriving in the Balkans in 7th century AD only, so keep your propaganda BS.
And no, Albanians are not muslims, more than 50% are agnostics, the rest is muslim, roman catholic and christian orthodox by tradition.
Serbia decries 'murder attempt' after PM chased from Srebrenica burial
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/07/11/uk-bosnia-srebrenica-idUKKCN0PL...
The term "assassination" is in the associated press write up that all the msm "journalists" plagiarize from. It is how the Serbian PM himself described the incident. Not exactly an unbiased source.
If you were the architect of a mass killing, probably best to stay home for the 20 year memorial.
This is an event so painstakingly documented, no amount of media spin or lies could hid.
Chumblz, I got the impression that Tyler forgot to include the /sarc tag.
On the flip side, it looks like the Balkans are getting Balkanized. Go figure.
"This is ridiculous. The only place where this is described as an "assassination attempt" is in the Zero Hedge headline and article."
Did you miss the quotes around the word assassination? Not to be taken literally.
Yeah, but they put the word assassination in quotes to kinda denote some ambiguity, also, you ever been hit in the head with a shoe or water bottle? He could've gotten dain bramage, or worse!!
Actually, I kind of like it when things get tarted up. I have always liked tarts. I had a girlfriend that accused me of wanting a tart in bed, once.
When she eventually dumped me I found a tart, no kidding. lol
She was pretty particular about bread crumbs in bed, and all, what can I say.
I am not Chumbawamba
:|
At the start of the video, there's a guy yelling "Let's go" in English with an american accent. It appears to be a security guy talking into into the microphone on his shirt. Seems our brown shirts are everywhere these days.
That is a very good catch.
The Balkans have long been a hotbed for Nationalism.
I know right? Like, caring about your Country and your people is such an icky, archaic mindset. Supranantional intellectuals know what's good for us!
If only we were working toward a new world order or something...
You guys sure Ferdinand getting shot is what started WW1???
If you take the time there is ample evidence that even with him getting shot the war was still avoidable. I save everything and have some interesting links. It would take a while to find them at the momment and if I post them here this will be a buried article in just two days so the links would be buried too. Typical search queries "was WWI avoidable? or "who really started WWI" would be a good start.
Remember the Lusitania! lol
http://www.threeworldwars.com/world-war-1/ww1-2.htm
The history isn't so much different for WWI as WWII. There were European motives to continue the war (it was just about over) except for Jewish intervention and Roosevelt baited Japan so the US would get involved in WWII. Germany sank the Lusitania after warning passengers in a NY Times add due to the fact it was carrying arms to Germany's enemies. Virtually all wars are preventable except for the motives of the oligarchs and their profit objectives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfEBupAeo4
Indeed.
Benjamin Freedman's speech on the topic back in 61:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY90MSkQtrE
International Zionist Jewry {a minority at the time of Jews} was a necessary but not sufficient reason for US entry into ww1, and certainly did what they could to advocate for war since the Ottomans would not agree to mass Jewish emigration to an area that was 95% Christian and Muslim and had been for 1500 years...
The quid pro quo of the Balfour Treaty to/for Zionist Jews has been all but memory-holed.
Anything that deviates from the narrative of Jews as Sacred, Eternal, Innocent Victim, in fact, is memory-holed ..
like how the Jews stole Palestine through terror and ethnic cleansing and how that was always the plan.
The Nakba: A Crime Watched, Ignored and Remembered
By Ilan Pappe
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article41864.htm
Israel’s Religious Hatred Is Branching Out
While most extremism with Jewish extremist roots targets the Palestinian and Muslim communities, a fire that recently burned through one of Israel’s most historic Catholic churches may be a sign that religious hatred is branching out.
http://www.mintpressnews.com/church-burning-and-racism-is-this-israels-n...
Yes, the lack of creativity bores me too.
Meh, more dildo helicopter attacks please.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU-ur7PL9Vk
Rough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VFCQNdgDHE
FOAD
Yeah, TD--that's some "assassination" attempt...fuck you!
Serbia is in the midst of an EU and USA power play right now. The leadership has taken a strong pro EU stance, which is counter to the majority of Serbs. The western media did an excellent job of portraying the Serbs as the only guilty party in the Yugoslav wars. It never mentioned the ethnic cleansing and killings by Kosovar Albanians, Croat forces and others. At one time Croats drove 1/2 a million serbs out of their homes with the aid of NATO, killing many in the process. Massacres were mutal, but media reported only Serbs crimes, never the NATO allies' crimes.
I am not so up on Serb politics to be able to say what this even really means. But I do know one thing, "The Serbs from Belgrade" who booed him and threw things at him were all brought out by western NGOs. They are a tiny minority, played to the hilt by Washington. I am going to research the issue, because I know this all sounds way to pro EU and way to fishy.
UK was pushing the resolution in UN just to justify NATO's bombings . Anglaosaxons afterall .
They were also trying to embarrass Russia by putting forth a resolution that neither Serbs or Russians could support. With the much hoped for Crimean Muslim 'uprising' fizzling (seriously, what Tartar in their right mind would want to be united with the Ukraine?) , they need something else to tarnish Russia as anti Muslim.
There is no fucking the before Ukraine.
Same as it is not:
the Russia
the France
the Germany
The Brasil
The Italy
Excelent comment Jack. Here are some hints for your research:
Countries that have introduced sanctions against Russia
The only European countries that didn't follow the suit are Belarus, Serbia, Bosnia (blocked by Serb entity) and Macedonia.
Putin guest of honour at Serbia military parade
Serbia Breaks Ranks With EU on Moscow Parade
Serbian army units to march on Moscow's Red Square at Victory Parade
Russian troops to hold drills in Serbia
As for strong pro EU stance of the leadership, keep in mind that Serbia is surrounded by NATO countries...and one of the biggest NATO bases in Europe (Camp Bondsteel) is right across the Serbian border.
Mostly accurate. One correction: Camp Bondsteel is on NATO occupied Serbian territory. Kosovo is recognized only by the US vasal states:
CountriesRecognizingKosovo.png
I.e Russia, India, China, Mexico, Brazil, even Israel and EU states like Spain, Greece, Cyprus, Romania and Slovakia do not recognize Kosovo as an independent state.
And it is being used like a transit point for Afghan opium and heroin you know. Organs harvested now from poor Albanians (since there are no Serbs except in a pocket in north Kosovo where they administrate themsleves (including policing)) also find their way to Bondsteel base, from where I guess they are being sent to Western market.
Bravo!!!
Excellent correction, Kosovo and Metohija (the full name of the province) is an integral part of Serbia, sadly currently under occupation!!!
Western media also never reported that the trouble in Kosovo was started by the ethnic Albanians (muslims).
The local police could not handle it and was actually in danger itself.
When the national government in Belgrade decided to do something about it, this is when the western narrative starts.
Thus Serbs are the bad guys.
That's akin to my neighbors beating up my kids, raping my daughter and wife and killing my brothers first. Then I snap and go Rambo on their asses and people say that I am the bad guy.
And you know, prior to 1999. Albanians (who came to Kosovo as refugees from Albania) hadn't been paying electricity, communal or administrative bills (like car registration).
do you get your news exclusivly from RT?
Serbia is a hotbed of nationalism and racial hatred living in denial.
Vucic is a die hard nationalist and should be procecuted for war crimes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU6t2XWFQD8
There is only one hatred in Serbia, Western scum -- and that one is toward you Western scum! We have no Negroes, Western scum, so where did you het that "racial hatred" part, you stupid lying piece of Western trash? And nationalism is heathly, that ensures our survival against you Western scum, Western scum!
in my humble opinion, ANY TIME there is an attempt to reduce an idiot in power, it's got to be a good thing.
WW1 was started by a serbian if my third grade history serves me right. of course now of days, the books have it being started by none other than georgy washington bush junior. gaf it & what the fuck ever. and the banksters loot while keeping the sheeple preoccupied in the center ring of the circus. popcorn anyone?
Sad histoy. No wander we are where we are.
Regarding the "Who started the WWI", let's put a test on your third grade history knowledge (and common sense):
The 1914 Europe is run by a few mayor emprires, which are in turn run by aristocratic dinasties that are all in close bood relation - to the point that they almost look the same physically (English King, German Kaiser and Russian Tzar). They have vaste administrative capacity, large armies and huge and well developed diplomatic and intelligence networks.
Sudenly war breaks between them.
Question:
1. Did the war start because of the conflcting strategic interests of major powers?
2. Did the war start because of the dirt-poor barelly literate 19 year old from Bosnia, disgruntled because he watched his five siblings die from malnutrition, who decided to kill the army comander in chief of the occupying opressor?
In an universe (which is surelly not the one we are inhabiting) where the second answer would be the correct one and the cause of all that folowed, my only comment would be: Good!
Bosnia is only one land of Western colony called Bosnia and Herzegovina, and nothing more! There are 3 constitutive nations which make that Western colony created by Western rape and against the will of both Christian nations there (Serbs and Croats) -- Serbs, Croats and Bosnians, and all 3 nations have their own belonging lands. There is no country called "Bosnia" but there is a land of Bosnain people called that, just like there is country of Serbian people (Republic of Serbska) and Croat people (Herzegovina). Croats and Bosnians live in federal state called Federation of Bosnian and Herzegovina, though I have to state, that Western construct was also created without the will of Croat people. Western colony called Bosnia and Herzegovina have a Western governor appointed by EU called "High Representative" which has the same authority and jurisdiction of the British colonial governors of old!
Nobody ever found the 8000 bodies. I think they must be buried at Clintons place in Arkansas. Our actions put a KLA snake pit in the middle of Europe. Great work.
Top down doesn't work.
War is just a shot away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yGFuX2KDQs
Was he on Obama's kill list? What is the CIA doing, where is that Nuland freak?
Maybe he pissed off his countrymen when he lied to them about something, broke their Constitution.
There will be a few more when this is over, USA and other countries want a war and it is obvious.
Fuck Obama and Vichy DC commit Genocide EVERY DAY!
serbia...serbia..... Oh. Isn't that one of those little countries where all the women have hairy backs?
Color me bored.
For a dead bird, you talk too much...
No, that would be Italy and Spain.
Serbian women are quite attractive.
They will get war any fucking way they can. They will push every button on the control panel. It has been decided and it is obvious to anyone who opens their eyes.
Who's they?
You'll find out when you are drafted to the front lines.
And, now that homo's and transgenders are accepted in the military I'm sure he'll fit right in.
Could as well have been Tsipras' "triumphal" return to Athens from the Eurogroup.
"Operation Deliberate Force"
The guy who makes the good operation names must have been out that day.
Operation Deliberate Farce was already taken.
Operation Deliberately Fucked was considered, but it was decided to save that for another day.
Anyone want to provide the background story on Srebimica ? An educated guess : Let's see EU imports muslims into Bosnia who rape serb women, serbs retaliate, U.S. bombs them into submission and liberates Bosnia restraining the serbs and allowing the peaceful rape and theft to continue and all issues to be taken up at the UN court they setup run by theives and child molestors. Is that the narrative ?
The Muzzies were in Srebrenica for a long time.
Ottoman Turks took the firstborn sons of Serbs and raised them as Muzzies to oversee their occupied lands.
It was called the blood tax.
It's so much older and deeper than the EU's puny ability to affect, either positively or negatively.
The Serbs were and are Orthodox Christians. It is the Bosnians who are muslim. The Croats are Catholic...... and it is a lovely mixture.
The Bosnians were under the Ottoman empire. The Croats under Austia-Hungarian. Serbia was sort of split if I remember correctlly, but Serbians never convertend to Islam.
The Ottamans were not trying to convert people. They just wanted their taxes.... but if you were muslim you were better off in their empire than a non-muslim.
Edward Herman summarizes the background and mythology of Srebrenica here in this thoroughly footnoted piece:
http://musictravel.free.fr/political/political58.htm
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Big 10 $ Jugdish. We bombed the Orthodox for the muz
Probably offended some people with this "concilliatory gesture".
Many Serbs feel persecuted by the constant agenda to "westernize" their country.
Ancient tribal hatred and mistrust does not disappear quickly.
I'm afraid this war will continue for another thousand years.
search: Battle of Kosov Kosovska bitka
'Field of Backbirds'
Serbs defenders of Europe
saved Turk takover of rest of Europe
Serbians are good people
Good point... if it wasn't for the Serbs, western europe would be bowing to Allah. The EU via immigration is finishing the work of the Ottoman Empire.
'Field of Blackbirds' I should have spelled
mistaked.. sorrie
There is an excellent book written at the start of WW1. The author was an English colonel named R.G.D Laffan.
Book title is "The Serbs - The Guardians of the Gate".
It was written in 1917 so it does not have any of the modern political propaganda bullshit in it.
Serbs are indeed good people with and tough as steel.
Indeed Volk
All planned according to the Zionists with DC puppet help. Banksters foot-print eveerywhere.
Oh yea dumbass Israel did it.
As usual, nothing said in the MSM about the feckless morons who were assigned with the task of protecting the vicitms from slaughter.
WB7, you're way off base here. You need to do some reading. Start with Srdja Trifkovic's "The Sword of the Prophet."
Those feckless morons were the Muslim armed forces that abandoned their comrades and escaped to Tuzla.
"The Srebrenica events had a number of features that made it possible to claim 8,000 "men and boys" executed. One was the confusion and uncertainty about the fate of the fleeing Bosnian Muslim forces, some reaching Tuzla safely, some killed in the fighting, and some captured. The 8,000 figure was first provided by the Red Cross, based on their crude estimate that the BSA had captured 3,000 men and that 5,000 were reported "missing." It is well established that thousands of those "missing" had reached Tuzla or were killed in the fighting, but in an amazing transformation displaying the eagerness to find the Bosnian Serbs evil and the Muslims victims, the "reaching safety/killed-in-action" basis of being missing was ignored and the missing were taken as executed! This misleading conclusion was helped along by the Red Cross's reference to the 5,000 as having "simply disappeared," and its failure to correct this politically biased usage and claim despite its own recognition that "several thousand" refugees had reached Central Bosnia."
Edward Herman's well-footnoted piece from 2005:
http://musictravel.free.fr/political/political58.htm
I am a big fan of ZH but this time, I am very disappointed. There are mountains of evidence that the Army of Republika Srpska never killed a single Muslim civilian in and around Srebrenica between 11 and 19 July 1995. I speak Serbian and I collect history books about that people so I can understand what I read. Only 1.919 bodies have been found. All the Muslims killed were either soldiers of the terrorist BiH Army working for Alija Izetbegovic (who wrote in 1970 the Islamic Declaration, ISIS is simply an evolution of that policy!) or foreign mercenaries known as mujahedeen. The memorial in Potocari is a hoax built with foreign Arab money where the local warmongering Muslims put over 8.000 to rest but within that number there are Muslims killed all over Bosnia and even before July 1995 or Muslims who died of natural causes. Izetbegovic himself said in Parliament in August 1995 that "no more than 3.000 Muslims were killed in Srebrenica, the rest is propaganda". Since I have the hard facts and evidence of what I say because I collect books about those facts since 2002, I am very sad that ZH thought CNN in this case could be trusted to explain the events of July 1995 in Srebrenica. Disgraceful!!!
PS: In and around Srebrenica though in 1992 and 1993 those same Muslims terrorists headed by Naser Oric killed 3.287 Serbs, mostly civilians along with many soldiers of the Army of Republika Srpska. Those victims are all real and documented while the Muslims of Bosnia allowed 3.016 people supposedly killed in Srebrenica and buried at the memorial in Potocari to vote in the 1996 national elections, thanks to the complicity of the OSCE and thanks to the West, which supported Izetbegovic ever since 1989 (even though Izetbegovic had been arrested and sentenced in 1983 for what he had written in 1970 in "The Islamic Declaration"). Nobody has ever been jailed or sentenced to death for killing those 3.287 innocent Serbs instead!!!
Zerohedge should not write about history if it doesn't do it the way it writes about finance: by presenting only the hard facts and evidence, sorry!
The first casualty of war is always the truth.
The truth is coming out .... thank you .... I hope my praise .... being a somewhat dubious poster around here .... doesn't get in the way of the truth .... Jihad sucks pork penises !
dubious is an understatement.
You only have to look at the remit of the Yugoslav Tribunal to see what the game was.
Two examples
i) Hearsay evidence was allowed, and not disputable if rape was allleged.
ii) Trial in absentia was allowed, with no input from the defense.
'A show trial by any other name'. Wm Stalinspeare
MM,
Dr. Srdja Trifkovic has written extensively about this, and about the kangaroo court that is the Hague in its blatantly pro-Muslim war crimes tribunals conducted after the fact, and based on the lies told by the Muslim side about Srebrenica.
I, too, am disappointed in ZH for parroting the MSM lies about this. The truth is that the USA supported the first Muslim invasion of Europe in over 300 years. Madeline Albright will roast in hell for it. Richard Holbrooke is already there.
Infact I also collect Dr. Trifkovic's books such as The Krajina Chronicles.
Very good point, thank you! :)
Zivela Srbija!!!
Albright, Holbrooke, Wesley Clark: the list of criminals from the West and from the rest of the world who deserve to burn in hell forever for their crimes against the Serbian people is very, very, very long!
The Serbs lost 12 million people since 1878 to free themselves from every invader and foreign occupier, first of all the Turks and in that case they succeeded only in 1912 after 523 years....I would love to know what people in the West would have done during a long and brutal occupation!
Yet since 1878, after rising up three times between 1804 and 1878 to defeat the Turks although not completely, the Serbs won Two Balkan Wars, won World War 1 (they got the first two wins for the Allies of the entire war!) and were the first to fight the Nazis thanks to General Dragoljub Mihailovic in World War 2.
I have all the hard facts and hard evidence very clear, I know what really happened, I have studied history for 30 years, I would anyone to challenge me by refuting those facts but people never back up their racist insults towards the Serbian people by using any hard facts or any hard evidence!
The only guy i liked was Major-General Lewis Wharton MacKenzie (Canada)
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He spoke of truth more than any other high ranking military official.
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CCCC
was waiting for someone to post that. as it is, the 'serbians massacred x number of muslims' is a mainstream media/state department/eu meme.
Same reason that the Grand Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini was not charged withwar crimes after WW2 along with the rest of the Nazis.
The Luciferians are alies of the moslems.
http://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/hitler-muslim-brotherhood.html
Well stated. It seems like there are precious few of us in this world, but we remember that Srebrenica was supposed to be a demilitarized "safe haven", but the Muslim side cynically violated this understanding and in fact used Srebrenica as a staging ground for attacks on Serb civilians living in the surrounding territory.
"Bosnian Muslim leaders had been struggling for several years to persuade the NATO powers to intervene more forcibly on their behalf, and there is strong evidence that they were prepared not only to lie but also to sacrifice their own citizens and soldiers to serve the end of inducing intervention Bosnian Muslim officials have claimed that their leader, Alija Izetbegovic, told them that Clinton had advised him that U.S. intervention would only occur if the Serbs killed at least 5,000 at Srebrenica. The abandonment of Srebrenica by a military force much larger than that of the attackers, and a retreat that made that larger force vulnerable and caused it to suffer heavy casualties in fighting and vengeance executions, helped produce numbers that would meet the Clinton criterion, by hook or by crook. There is other evidence that the retreat from Srebrenica was not based on any military necessity but was strategic, with the personnel losses incurred considered a necessary sacrifice for a larger purpose."
Edward Herman sums up the falsehoods surrounding Srebrenica here in this exhaustively footnoted piece: http://musictravel.free.fr/political/political58.htm
US allies can commit any number of atrocities with impunity. Current examples - i) the Ukrops and Nazis against east Ukraine and ii) ISIS.
"Yugoslavia
The "humanitarian war" against Libya drew on a model close to western liberal hearts, especially in the media. In 1999, Bill Clinton and Tony Blair sent Nato to bomb Serbia, because, they lied, the Serbs were committing "genocide" against ethnic Albanians in the secessionist province of Kosovo. David Scheffer, US ambassador-at-large for war crimes [sic], claimed that as many as "225,000 ethnic Albanian men aged between 14 and 59" might have been murdered. Both Clinton and Blair evoked the Holocaust and "the spirit of the Second World War". The West's heroic allies were the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), whose criminal record was set aside. The British Foreign Secretary, Robin Cook, told them to call him any time on his mobile phone.
With the Nato bombing over, and much of Serbia's infrastructure in ruins, along with schools, hospitals, monasteries and the national TV station, international forensic teams descended upon Kosovo to exhume evidence of the "holocaust". The FBI failed to find a single mass grave and went home.
The Spanish forensic team did the same, its leader angrily denouncing "a semantic pirouette by the war propaganda machines". A year later, a United Nations tribunal on Yugoslavia announced the final count of the dead in Kosovo: 2,788. This included combatants on both sides and Serbs and Roma murdered by the KLA. There was no genocide. The "holocaust" was a lie. The Nato attack had been fraudulent.
Behind the lie, there was serious purpose. Yugoslavia was a uniquely independent, multi-ethnic federation that had stood as a political and economic bridge in the Cold War. Most of its utilities and major manufacturing was publicly owned. This was not acceptable to the expanding European Community, especially newly united Germany, which had begun a drive east to capture its "natural market" in the Yugoslav provinces of Croatia and Slovenia. By the time the Europeans met at Maastricht in 1991 to lay their plans for the disastrous eurozone, a secret deal had been struck; Germany would recognise Croatia. Yugoslavia was doomed.
In Washington, the US saw that the struggling Yugoslav economy was denied World Bank loans. Nato, then an almost defunct Cold War relic, was reinvented as imperial enforcer. At a 1999 Kosovo "peace" conference in Rambouillet, in France, the Serbs were subjected to the enforcer's duplicitous tactics.
The Rambouillet accord included a secret Annex B, which the US delegation inserted on the last day. This demanded the military occupation of the whole of Yugoslavia - a country with bitter memories of the Nazi occupation - and the implementation of a "free-market economy" and the privatisation of all government assets. No sovereign state could sign this. Punishment followed swiftly; Nato bombs fell on a defenceless country. It was the precursor to the catastrophes in Afghanistan and Iraq, Syria and Libya, and Ukraine.
Since 1945, more than a third of the membership of the United Nations - 69 countries - have suffered some or all of the following at the hands of America's modern fascism. They have been invaded, their governments overthrown, their popular movements suppressed, their elections subverted, their people bombed and their economies stripped of all protection, their societies subjected to a crippling siege known as "sanctions". The British historian Mark Curtis estimates the death toll in the millions. In every case, a big lie was deployed."
- John Pilger: Why the rise of fascism is again the issue
In a major essay, John Pilger describes a 'Faustian Pact' that allows the suppression of a modern fascism in the West and its reliance on propaganda as news, and the beckoning of a war that rarely speaks its name
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/john-pilger-why-the-rise-of-fa...
@mm17101978.
You might be able to save everyone quite a bit of time here.
Is Vucic a Serb nationalist pretending to be a EU sell-out, or just an EU sell-out?
Who wanted him dead - CIA, MI6, Mossad, FSB, BND, etc., etc. and why?
Dear Afaerl, as always in that part of Europe the answer is complicated.
Aleksandar Vucic was standing up for the real, true interests of the Serbs when he was part of the SRS, the Radical Party which was until recently the only opposition party to the governments that since October 5, 2000 have been violently put in place by the West in Serbia.
Vucic, like the long-time head of the SRS, made quite a few strong statements in the '90s but the truth is that the SRS volunteers who fought first against the Croat terrorists and secessionists never killed 100 enemies for every Serb killed, the posture was always defensive first of all, to protect the Serb civilians who were attacked first in Croatia by Croat fascists, then in Bosnia and Herzegovina by Izetbegovic and his thugs and later in Kosovo and Metohija where the Albanian narco-Nazi terrorists repeated the same script.
Of course, in 2008 the West bought with tons of money both Vucic and Tomislav Nikolic (the top two figures of the Radical Party, since Prof. Dr. Vojislav Seselj, the party president, was on trial at the kangaroo court of The Hague for crimes he never committed and that nobody has ever given any hard evidence of!).
Result: Vucic, Nikolic and quite a few other top officials left the Radical Party instantly to form a new party right after Nikolic oddly and barely lost the 2008 presidential election to Boris "let me give you 100 euros offered by the West so you can vote for me and I will give you a job" Tadic (that bribe has been proven, I have friends in Serbia who took it and thankfully didn't vote for Tadic although it's a risky choice).
The Radical Party lost all seats in Parliament but Vucic (within his new SNS party) started to climb the ladder of power and became Prime Minister even though some people even in Boris Tadic's Democratic Party hate him for being too power hungry.
Since then, Vucic does whatever the West or the Arab states wants. Everything is for sale to those bastards in Serbia, as long as the bribes are paid to the right people.
Vucic badly wants to be in the EU.....hopefully Nikolic is starting instead to understand what the hoax is all about!
So no: Vucic is not a nationalist anymore and let's be blunt...nationalist in Serbia means standing up for what the Serbs really need, for a good life, a peaceful country, without any foreign invader or occupier so it is definitely a positive word no matter what people who don't know that part of Europe believe!
Vucic would sell out anything to the West and/or to the Arab states right now.
Who attacked him? I have two options in mind....either some of the Muslim fanatics from the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina, comprised of Muslims and Croats....or (sounds odd but not to the people who know the region) maybe it was a fanatical group of secessionist Muslims living in Serbia in a region called Raska (the medieval heartland of the Serbian kingdom ever since the 10th century) which today is full of very radical Muslims who have first or second homes in the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina or even Sarajevo itself.
In particular in that area, the main city of Novi Pazar is full of Muslim radicals who can do at any time what the Muslims headed by Naser Oric have done to the Serbs in the 1990s, starting a war and a genocide!
I can attest to that because in 2004 (very stupidly) I met a girl in that part of Serbia (she is Muslim) and so I visited the small city of Prijepolje (the town of birth of Vlade Divac, who turned into a traitor himself sadly because of all the Muslim money coming from either Novi Pazar, Sarajevo or the Albanians)....that city has 16.000 people including about 7.000 Serbs....I always spoke English in those 5 days but right after I left a the train station a Muslim killed a Serb because the latter didn't have a cigarette to offer to the former.... :(
When I say that ISIS is only an evolution of the Muslim terrorists and mujahedeen paid by the West who killed at least 31.000 Serbs in the civil war of the 1990s in Bosnia and Herzegovina, that's because believe me way back in 1970 the future head of Bosnia and Herzegovina Alija Izetbegovic wrote "The Islamic Declaration" and if you download it in English, you will see that he called for a unitary Muslim state from Asia to Europe adding that there can be no peaceful coexistence between Islam and others....yes, he totally hijacked that religion....he was even tried and convicted in 1983 but despite that sentence he was able to start a civil war thanks to tons of money and tons of weapons from the West and elsewhere....his thugs were the first to behead people and those people were Serbian civilians and that started way back in 1992!
As to why: because Vucic does not give (yet) to those terrorists everything they want (if my second guess is right then the request would be an "independent" Raska region headed by Muslims from Bosnia and Herzegovina!).
Hope to have been clear enough and detailed enough to provide all the answers you had asked me for.
I will guess that the triggerman is also Serbian.
Similar to Yitzak Rabin being assassinated for making too much peace for the more extremist segments of his population to tolerate.
Good guess @Ginsengbull. The others who understand the language confirm it. That's great news - no new war in the Balkans for now.
Except for Macedonia, perhaps...
Don't believe Madeline Allbright, Bill and Hillary .... Jihadists started the ethnic cleansing of isolated Serb villages .... I'm with Putin on this one .... Northern Nations United Against Islam !
Agreed. We all remember that Srebrenica was supposed to be a demilitarized "safe haven", but the Muslim side cynically violated this understanding and in fact used Srebrenica as a staging ground for attacks on Serb civilians living in the surrounding territory.
Justice that is one sided ceases to be justice. Edward Herman sums up the falsehoods surrounding Srebrenica here in this exhaustively footnoted piece: http://musictravel.free.fr/political/political58.htm
But how about uniting against Zionism, which has hijacked our government and media?
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/rania-khalek/israels-extermination-...
http://www.palestine-studies.org/jps/fulltext/186669
Where are you on that issue?
Or are yoe just another hasbara cunt trying to convince us that 1.2 muslims are all bad while the religion that brought us Deuteronomy and Joshua is all about universal love?
lol.
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‘How to kill goyim and influence people’
http://mondoweiss.net/2010/08/how-to-kill-goyim-and-influence-people
Israel’s Religious Hatred Is Branching Out
http://www.mintpressnews.com/church-burning-and-racism-is-this-israels-n...
How Israel Covers Up Its Ugly Racial Holy War
http://www.alternet.org/world/how-israel-covers-its-ugly-racial-holy-war
Folks, don't walk into the trap of divide-and-conquer by up-voting Agent Monetas.
1) The statement “United Against Islam !” is pure racism and contradicts ZH policy as well as the norms of any decent civilization.
http://www.zerohedge.com/help/notice-racism
“Any user found to be discriminating against ANY race, religion, or affiliation, will be banned immediately, and have their comments removed from the system.”
2) “I'm with Putin on this one” is a well-documented technique to discredit someone by creating an (actually invalid) association with racism. In fact, Mr. Putin has gone out of his way to promote tolerance. As a result, he has earned the respect of muslims at home and abroad.
That takes a lot of chutzpa for the Turkish Prime Minister to use the word "genocide" to describe the alleged killing of 4,000 Muslems but to stonewall against any acknowledgement (let alone use of the word genocide) about the murder of 4,000,000 Christians by the Turks in the early 20th century.
It also takes a lot of chutzpa for U.S. leaders to bewail ethnic cleasning in the Balkans when they aid and abet Kiev's efforts to ethnically clease Eastern Ukraine of Russian-speakers.
The Muslims had it coming, they were blowing shit up, killing civilians pushing a caliph, they got their caliph BTW, all of the EU, the EU is an Islamic state.
ZioAmerica want to destabilize Eurasia as a pretext to war with Russia.
That's all folks.
US Department of State - 2 days ago
Civilized states would ban this war monger from entering their countries.
An American not controlled by Zionism would have her in the dock, not serving in a very high level in government, fomenting wars to benefit the Jewish elite, banks, and globalism.
But they love Nuland in Kiev
Edwin Wright - Zionist Jews Worked 'To Capture The U.S. Government
Edwin M. Wright was an intelligence agent and State Department employee in the 1940s and 1950s. Though an internationalist and an advocate of a plan for bringing refugee Jews to America, he saw clearly the danger posed by Zionism to the United States and to the world. His account of Jewish crimes and manipulations makes riveting reading.
http://www.rense.com/general57/edw.htm
It was a horrendous war crime but definetly not "genocide". Russians were 100% right to veto.
I am still waiting to see the evidence that it was a war crime by the Army of Republika Srpska since only soldiers/terrorists and mujahedeen (terrorists) were killed.
To me, they are both perfectly legitimate targets from a defensive point of view within a civil war....I encourage everyone to hand me hard evidence of the contrary and I will be waiting with great pleasure!
Mr. Nobel recipient for peace "Only by holding the perpetrators of the genocide to account can we offer some measure of justice to help heal their loved ones. And only by calling evil by its name can we find the strength to overcome it." - Hypocrisy! How do we call Iraq, Libya, Syria, Somalia, Vietnam, Nicaragua, Chile, Indonesia, Palestine, Ukraine.... If Srebrenica was a genocide, then we need to come up with a word for double-plus genocide.
Pro EU. Means I'm not buying what they are selling.
We all remember that Srebrenica was supposed to be a demilitarized "safe haven", but the Muslim side cynically violated this understanding and in fact used Srebrenica as a staging ground for attacks on Serb civilians living in the surrounding territory.
"The Srebrenica massacre has played a special role in the politics of Western treatment of the restructuring of the former-Yugoslavia and in Western interventionism more broadly, and it is receiving renewed attention and memorialization at its tenth anniversary in July 2005. It is regularly cited as proof of Serb evil and genocidal intent and helped justify a focus on punishing the Serbs and Milosevic and NATO's 1999 war on Serbia. It has also provided important moral support for the further Western wars of vengeance, power projection, and "liberation," having shown that there is evil that the West can and must deal with forcibly."
Edward Herman sums up the falsehoods surrounding Srebrenica here in this exhaustively footnoted piece: http://musictravel.free.fr/political/political58.htm
There were certainly crimes on both side, it was a civil war after all... But this constant MSM exploitation of this as a 'genocide' is disgusting. How will the noble UN explain to Armenians that 1,5 million of them massacred by Turks won't be recognised as genocide.
Then NATO to show how good they are, bombed Serbs to oblivion twice. A-10s sprinkled more than 15 tons of depleted uranium between other things. Made Serbia jump to first place in cancer lethality in all of Europe. It is said that only of that several thousand people die a year. The sick fucks even called it 'humanitarian bombing'.
Well stated. IMHO, the US promised and/or provided just enough support to the Muslim side to keep them fighting and to keep them from negotiating seriously with their Serb foes for an end to the conflict. Thereby prolonging the conflict and weakening all sides and increasing the debt that all sides would need to repay to foreign lenders after the end of the conflict.
Serbia, having issues with mulsims, is on Washington's Spring List.
History doesn't always repeat itself however it can rhyme:(
Monday gonna be chaotic
LTC John E. Sray, U.S. Army, wrote an excellent summary of the Bosnia situation in the autumn of 1995 that is well worth your time: http://fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/documents/bosnia2.htm
"During the debate on lifting the arms embargo against Bosnia, several U.S. lawmakers opined that this war involves standing up for morality. They may be correct. However, the suspicious inner circle running the Bosnian Muslim government should fall far short of meeting anyone's criteria for the moral highground. All of the warring factions stand equally guilty of heinous crimes. Their villainy reflects a matter of scale and dimension - not severity. The Serbs controlled more land and people and thus expelled more of their former neighbors, but their ethnic cleansing has been exaggerated while Muslim atrocities were overlooked.
A simple analogy applies: We have three groups of murderer-rapists. Our first faction has killed nine and raped three; another has murdered five and raped two; the last has killed three and raped one. The three reprobates begin fighting among themselves. Are we therefore obligated to come to the aid of one of the two lesser miscreants because to date they have been less reprehensible? What kind of depraved moral code is that?"
I am still waiting to see the evidence that it was a war crime by the Army of Republika Srpska since only soldiers/terrorists and mujahedeen (terrorists) were killed.
Certainly, there was no ethnic cleansing by the Army of Republika Srpska especially since that Army always safely evacuated women and children, like in Srebrenica on 11 July 1995.
Sadly, even people from Western institutions like the US Armed Forces who served in Bosnia and Herzegovina stumble on that point by making a statement that they can't back up with any hard evidence!
To me, both those targets that I mentioned above were perfectly legitimate targets from a defensive point of view within a civil war....I encourage everyone to hand me hard evidence of the contrary and I will be waiting with great pleasure!
Ethnic Cleansing by All Means: The real Israeli ‘peace’ policy:
http://mondoweiss.net/2014/10/ethnic-cleansing-israeli
When Jews do it - it's because they are defending themselves from eeeevil muslims who just want to kill jews.
get it?
https://electronicintifada.net/content/we-must-never-forget-massacre-dei...
http://www.counterpunch.org/2004/05/13/the-deir-yassin-massacre/
Alia Izetbegovic, the Washngtone stoodge, was a nazi, who fought during the WWII in SS mohamedan divison, is (mainly) responsible for the hatred on Balkan.
But no problem, at least it shows the attitude of mohamedans to other people.
There will never be a concensus and reconcilliation between mohamedans and nonmohamedans. We have to send them to USA, their heir and master. Out of Europe, go all of them to US, to Clinton.
http://fbreporter.org/2015/07/09/the-real-srebrenica-genocide-not-report...
Alija Izetbegovic become islamist extremist and was arrested in Yugoslavia because of that extremism. He have conctact with muslim extremist groups in early 70s in XX century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Declaration
In Srebrenica in july 1995, Muslim sources from Sarajevo claims 5000-6000 dead. Baislcy all men who try to broke serbian position around Srebrenica, and partaly make it, to go to Tuzla(muslim territory). Of 6000 dead 1000-2000 was dead after surrender(Muslim claims and Hague tribunal claim(Hague tribula is unique story and i will back to that later)). All other mens, womans, old and children who surrender to Serbian froces in Srebrenic survive(around 20 000-25 000). Other dead in Srebrenica graveyard are not related with july 1995.
Serbian side not denied there was killing after they beccome prisoners and many people are in jailed because of this. Serbs offered several time apology before today but muslim not accpted because they want to destroy political serbian enthinty in Bosnia. And that is reason why they so push this. They have support of Arab countries, Saudi Arabia and Qatar first, with huge lobbying in USA and other westren countries. Hague tribunal are founded like that, with money from Saudi Arabia, and Serbs are convicted that on over 1000 years of jailed and bascily no other party in war(only Croats from Bosnia, which also fight Muslims in some period before they brcome allies against Serbs with help of USA). Also, muslim forces from Srebrnica attack Serbian popualtion around Srebrenica even if that area was alleged demilitarize without weapons under UN protection. One of great attacks on Serbs happend on Orthodox Christmas Day, 7 January 1993.
They raped and crucified woman there.
But that is not genocide, there is clear definiotn of genocide and that is not. If it is genocide that mean that all muslims where to be kill without exception, that is genocide. But west want to destroy serbian part od Bosnia and there is huge pressure on Serbs on that.
Historicly Bosnia and Herzagovina was Serbain and Croatian land, divided with religiuos line of west and east christnaity, but Turks infulence of several 100s years of rule and destruction od Christianity(Balkan is place where Christianity fist enter Eruope, like all western civilisation was born in Balkan) are changed things. And when UK several time save Turks from destruction of orthodox Christniy because UK fight Cold war with Russia in 19. century(Great game).
BTW, war in Bosnia started because Saudi Arabia want to find place to clean themselves because western(christian) troops use Saudi Arabia to attack Sadam in First Gulf war. And they do that with help of USA, claims by muslims in Bosnia. And also to west find place to counter position over Israel and Palestine.
Also , on 4. august is 20 years from muslim-crotian-Nato actions against Serbs in Croatia, when 200 000 Serbs was expepled, all people who sayed in homes killed. Basicly any western media will not mentioned that, just look. US company MPRI are sued in USA because they help in war crimes in that action.
Oh, Osama bin Laden was in Bosnia during 90s to fight Serbs, also in Kosovo, with mujahedens and from there they planed some actions against westn, including 9/11.
Serbia was on trial for Bosnia war and Serbia was cleared on court.
Clickbait. Such a shame to see on Zerohedge.
They missed getting the 8001 Muslim
He was hit by a rock. In the head. If you think it's just fine try doing that to Obama and see what happens...
A fucking rock?
Get real.
Must be Serbs fault again, right?
Did Tom Brady throw it?
Was the rock deflated?
if you understand and are fluent in serbian many were shouting "kill him" "kill him" and if anyone had a gun and was close he would have got it as the emotion run high in that part of the world, logic does not carry much clout in the balkans. as for Vucic, he is the perfect politician, as two faced as they come and a total idiot for going there. the west needs to learn that making a news/political drama of such a raw event was beyond stupid but then again in 1990 the powers forgot what ww2 was like and allowing and recognising the 1st breakaway state of yugoslavia to separate would lead to srebrenica and more. the west mostly madeup of the UK and USA have always taken advantage of old cultures and lessor pheasant minds to tantalize them into wars like the ukraine clowns.
as for ZH its just a spinmeister making a few bucks, if it was in print it would make mediocre asswipe
World War 3 is inevitable
the only question is when and what will trigger it
He had no business visiting, so he deserves no better.
Riiiight... Again, must be Serbs fault, nothing to do with EU and Bosnian Pederation asking him to go there. Like Serbs got to know Muslims just yesterday...