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A Broken Greek PM Says He Is "Ready For An Honest Compromise"
Last Sunday, Greek citizens experienced a rare moment of elation when it seemed for a split second that the country was set to reclaim its future, albeit at the cost of short-term economic catastrophe.
Swept up in the referendum fever, 61% of the country voted "no" to further austerity, cementing Alexis Tsipras' hold on power and giving the PM carte blanche to tell Angela Merkel, Wolfgang Shchaeuble, and the rest of the Bundestag that Greece's days as a debt colony were officially over.
Only that's not what happened.
Instead, Tsipras promptly submitted a virtually identical proposal to that which Greeks rejected at the polls in an apparent attempt to rescue the country from the grip of capital controls and a banking crisis the severity of which the PM might have thought Greeks didn't fully understand.
Unfortunately, it appears as though Tsipras misjudged how determined the German finance ministry is to expel Greece and now, after Saturday's Eurogroup summit served only to harden Germany's position, Tsipras faces the worst case scenario: he sold out voters by proposing the very deal they shunned only to be told that the deal still wasn't good enough.
Now, heading into a meeting with euro area leaders, Tsipras is left with nothing but hollow rheotric - "hope" for lack of a better word.
- TSIPRAS: GREECE IS READY FOR AN HONORABLE COMPROMISE
- TSIPRAS: AGREEMENT CAN BE REACHED TONIGHT IF ALL WANT IT
Unfortunately for Tsipras, and even more unfortunately for the poor Greeks, "all" most certainly do not want it, which explains why the broken PM now has that sinking feeling...
And as for why Europe is stalling:
without a deal Greek capital controls to continue indefinitely. Banks said to run out of all cash in 24-48 hours
— zerohedge (@zerohedge) July 12, 2015
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leaked Greek celebration video: http://vimeo.com/132616261
...you can really see in their eyes how relieved and genuinely happy they are. My faith in humanity is resotred.
I’d love to see an actual fight breaking out between the EuroGroup finance ministers.
I betcha, there’d be a lot of squealing, crying, pinching, and spitting.
Dijsselbloem would pretend to be blind, with a cane.
Schauble would be wearing a Hannibal Lecter mask and making Harley Davidson noises.
The rest would be dressed as Black Kettles and Black Pots pointing their crooked fingers at each other. ;-)
Looney
This guy is fucking toast. Pile him on the dustbin of history.
Tsipras is done.
He had an opportunity to do the right thing -- he squandored it. Now he's gonna pay. Schäuble will make sure of it.
His future speaking fees shot through the roof last Sunday, and crashed this week. Who is going to want to listen to this guy after he leaves office in disgrace? I bet this sock puppet still thinks he's a rebel because he doesn't wear a tie. Tsipras is just another empty suit, without the suit.
Yep
Can somebody please beat the shit out of this useless tool? Not enough to cause permanent damage, but enough to send a message.
Where is Harry Reid's "exercise machine" when you need it?
Let's not be too hasty.
After the follies of the last six months, the incomprehensible post-referendum about face, and sacking of their most prestigious and and fearless warriour Varoufakis: permaent damage may be merited.
I give 50/50 chances that after the next six months/year of crisis buffoonery it will be Varoufakis that is PM.
Somebody is going to have to head the next 'leftist' coalition government and he knows the finances/sustainability/etc. and understands the views and processes of his/Greece and opponents/partners..
IMHO, in less than a year the PM will either be Varofakis or another GS installed technocrat/stooge.
GS stooge will = kick the can.
Varofakis will = kick in the balls.
That's the same look Obama has when he's just gotten his ass kicked. Its the look that says, "I'm a pussy and I have no idea what to do next." They have no idea what to do because there's not a principled bone in their body.
There's a word for that: Pragmatism.
Crapital controls bitches! Coming soon to a town near you.
Geez Tsipras, grow a pair..........
Does anyone realy think the European puppet states are going to go against their Master´s will and let the Greeks leave NATO and kick-out the US Navy from Naval Station Souda Bay Crete then give it to Russia? Not a chance folks, times like this are why the NSA spies on Merkel & Holand... German politicians are apparently fighting (or pretending to fight) for what´s best for the German taxpayer, but between the crooked banksters and the dirt the NSA is digging up from their spying on our allies, it wont take long before they bow down to the Master and lend Greece more money that will never be returned...
These killers play very hard ball...stakes were high: Grexit = bust out of NATO and EZ, leaving Europe's southern flank open? No way the US would allow that, and Russsian bases. Was main reason GS cooked the books to get Greece in. Consolation pize a bag of cookies from Vikki...and no horse head on the pillow, or 'tragic accident'..
Very sorry for the people of Greece...they'll not be the last either..
I'm not a fan of Tsipras, because I don't believe in his ideology.
But at least he tried.
You try to do the right thing when you've got the whole freaking EU and the US on your back. He's a lot more of a man than all those other suits that call themselves politicians working for the good of the people. They frequently disgust me, hiding behind each other's back and howling like a pack of wolves.
This man has been perhaps perhaps disappointing at times, but he was never disgusting as far as I know.
Honest compromise? Really? I assume his last words will be "Why can't we all just get along?".....
This guy changes his mind
every time somebody threatens to KILL HIS FAMILY
Christ, Tsipras went from hero to zero in a week, what a fool he is. I'd stay away from Greece if I were him, there's a lamp post waiting for him.
And whhile they were all fighting, Tsipras would be in the cloakroom going through their pockets...
For a second there, I thought you were going to Rickroll us. But that would've been too cruel.
Greece, to Germany "Never gonna give you up...never gonna let you down..."
'Brokeback Mountain' EU style......
If all wanted a deal, we would have had one three weeks ago.
You mean 5 years ago
Yep
It's not too late. Greece can have a bailout RIGHT NOW! All they have to do is stop being a country and let Germany annex them as a slave state. See? Simple!
don't forget the PRIVATE companies behind the scene pulling the ropes (not strings) for the Greek Ports and the entire Greek Power Distribution system.
Moar Kabuki for the proles
Or complete surrender
Prime Minister Tsipras’ Bailout Reform Package: An Act of Treason against the Greek PeopleTsipras led the “NO” campaign while having already decided that in the wake of the Referendum, he would say YES to the creditors and cave in to their demands. This is tantamount to an Act of Treason.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/prime-minister-tsipras-bailout-reform-packa...BUT NOW THERE IS SOME DEBT RESTRUCTURING, OR NOT?
Nein
If they won't cut the debt, I would fuck um hard 100%. Hell, use the US dollar for money, just ditch the 300 Billion or whatever it is and move on, can't be all bad. The lenders have clearly fucked themselves and if they want to be 100% inflexible then Greece should do the same.
Move to a Drachma backed by whatever energy revenues come from a deal with Russia or perhaps pegged to those commodities. Guarantee pensions up to the poverty level for those that truly need it. Take all state assets that the EU has/wanted privatized (the electricity Grid, airports and sea ports) and sell them to Greek nationals only. The cloudy future of the Drachma should encourage many in the Greek Oligarchy to move into hard assets. For any Greeks that see pension reduction they get automatic stakes in the enterprises that arise from the sold assets. In place of the EU VAT and any income/corporate taxes, have a national sales tax to spur investment and fund social services. Greece would be a tourism and energy transfer hub without the disgusting tax complexity of the rest of the eurozone. They could keep a fairly high level of social services with honest and simple revenue from the sales tax.
While the majority of Greeks are stupidly trying to have it both ways by staying in the Euro and avoiding austerity, the problem seems to be the entrenched Greek political interests. They don't want an honest solution to the problem but unlike the Greek proles they actually wield the influence to keep this charade going. Tsipras isn't folding to the EU, he's folding to the Greeks who are doing just fine under the current system of can kicking and bullshit. Just like the Oligarchs in every other nation, they could give a fuck about "the people". Much like the supra-national corps their interests rarely converge with the "others" of their own nationality.
If Caribbean/Latin-American dictators have to flee to Europe to escape the mobs, does that mean Tsipras will be fleeing to America? Do you think a vice-president's position at the Fed can be created on such short notice?
he is just embarassing himself more, they do not want a deal.
The troika will just keep asking for more and more just to make sure no deal is attainable.
Indeed, the referendum forced EU to look into details of the deal just to acknowledge that it was not sustainable, so what was the point of kicking the can? Plus Germany refuses follow the push from US to continue supporting the greeks... it is another rebelion
Here comes the Red Army Mr President.
Shall they just stand there and die?
>>> TSIPRAS: AGREEMENT CAN BE REACHED TONIGHT IF ALL WANT IT
Finally he understands why there will be no deal.
Total sell-out and disgrace to the Greek people.
When everybody knows you wrapped a turd in the finest grape leaves everybody will opt for the souvlaki instead.
BUT IN THE PREREFERENDUM PROPOSAL THERE WERE NO DEBT RESTRUCTURING.
AND IN THE AFTER REFERENDUM GREEK PROPOSAL THERE IS SOME KIND OF DEBT RESTRUCTURING.
SO, THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE AND THE REASON WHY GERMANY WANTS A GREXIT NOW.
BUT IN THE PREREFERENDUM PROPOSAL THERE WERE NO DEBT RESTRUCTURING.
AND IN THE AFTER REFERENDUM GREEK PROPOSAL THERE IS SOME KIND OF DEBT RESTRUCTURING.
SO, THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE AND THE REASON WHY GERMANY WANTS A GREXIT NOW.
Bwhahahaha
The whole thing has been a set up since Day One.
We set some folks up, they mowed some folks down.
My guess is that the troika is going to push the hardest measures to get tsipras out of power and then dial back when a more aggreeable greek leader is in power.
Just like Ukraine.
I think Skeletor (Varofaukis) is going to get Tsipras' job.
But he did vote yes to this latest package of horse shit. He could have voted no.
Bullshit.
Political drama.
There will be NO GREXIT ever.
ALL the socialists and communists in Greece should be hunted down and hung on street poles.
hanged
Sold out. Too bad nobody's buying
This is the same way that Hitler used to beat up on foreign leaders. He kept raising his demands and would verbally brow beat them into submission while his troops were massing on the neighbor's border.
AND THEN THE. RUSSIANS ATTACKED!
Since his neighbors were benefitting from the monstrous Treaty of Versailles and were occupying historically Germanic lands and often mistreating the Germans therein, Hitler had the moral right to verbally browbeat them. As recent biographer RHS Stofi (of the US Navy) puts it, Hitler had the moral advantage over every foreign state he negotiated with, at least during 1933-1938.
The foreigners knew that they were in the wrong morally, and the fact that they only responded to a threat of force to do the right and just thing speaks volumes about what sort of people they were and what level of respect they should be treated with. Say what you will about Hitler as a leader and as a person, but his arguments were solid and he had iron-clad moral authority to impose his will on the usurpers surrounding Germany.
That moment when you realize your god, government, can't conjure up miracles...
How is default not their only option now?
its like a fart in church, it happened yet no one wants to admit that it happened.
Should have listened to Yanis
Some say Tsipras knew full well his austerity package was going to be rejected, but that he didn't want to take responsibility for a Grexit. Think coup or color revolution to understand why he'd rather be dumped by the eurozone than say "fuck the EU" and get his country out of that hyena pack circle.
You can stand up to bastards and risk your life, or you can fool them into making the decision you hope for.
Things may not be as simple as meets the eye.
After all, Varoufakis has repeatedly said that the Germans wanted Greece out regardless, forget austerity packages or whatever.
We'll see.
How is That family emergency of Varoufakis ????
A clear case of the blind leading the blind.
REDUX:
"
Even by the extravagant standards of Greek corruption, the scam uncovered by Stelios Bozikis is so brazen that it is hard to credit.
Nearly 600 people on the Ionian island of Zakynthos - of which Mr Bozikis was recently elected mayor - managed to have themselves falsely declared blind, entitling them to fat monthly cheques from the state.
They included taxi drivers, shopkeepers and restaurant owners, farmers tending the island's patchwork of vineyards and olive groves, and a few amateur hunters, whose purported disability did not stop them from spending their weekends shooting rabbits and birds in the rugged mountains of the interior.
Other "blind" locals have been seen cheerfully playing cards and backgammon in the tavernas and bars of the island. "Out of 650 registered blind people on the island, we estimate that at least 600 are fraudulent claims," the mayor told The Sunday Telegraph in his office overlooking the boats crowding the port of Zakynthos Town, the main settlement.
That represents nearly two per cent of the island's population of 35,000 - nearly 10 times the average rate of blindness in the rest of Europe, according to the World Health Organisation."
The solution to this problem is simple:
Make their fradulent claims factual.
Too funny.
"You want an Oedipus Complex eh? WELL HERE IT COMES!"
Idiot.
The Troika will strip them of all assets, then cause Grexit when Greece cannot be stripped anymore.
Better to Grexit now while Greece still has some of those assets the vultures want at pennies on the dollar.
The Troika are gangsters, parasites, they are not honorable, will never do the right thing towards their victims. They will suck blood until the host is dead.
Re-establish sovereignty, re-establish your drachma, otherwise you are finished.
He played his people like a fiddle, and still has the nerve to talk about honour. His epic betrayal is on par with Obama's handiwork. Disgusting specimens.
I wonder who this guy is going to throw under the bus next week? My guess,,,? The young.
Tsipras continues to promote the fantasy
that it would be "reasonable' and "honest"
for Greece to continue on with the EU, the TROIKA banksters, and NATO.
That it would be "reasonable' and "honest" for Greece
to accept the pending EU agreements for TISA and Obamatrade,
to make an indenture and privatization bargain with the TROIKA, and
to participate in NATO belligerence from the M.E. to Ukraine.
Endorsement of such false premises leads nowhere good.
LOL, sounds like a joke.
A politician goes into a room of politicians and says I want an "honest" compromise.....
Even I could beat this guy at poker and I suck at poker. But he doesn't have any money to play so why bother.
Tsipras is a gutless fool.
Still, he will do irrepairable damage to the Hard Left of Greek politics, that's one saving grace.
Never show weakness when surrounded by psychopaths, find what they fear losing and take it.. That would be unity in the European union, divide them, let them tear each other apart.. How? hmm start working on a new currency and focus on your strength, become the Bali/Thailand of Europe, cheap holidays, tell them to fuck off with the debt.. This will show the remaining people of the union that they too can walk away from debt... Stop being a bitch and stick it to the dogs that want to enslave your unborn children :)
"Hammerin' Hank Paulson" 2008.
"You wanna enslave the American People in an Empire of Debt Wall Street Fucker...WELL HERE COMES MY ANSWER BITCH!"
The Greeks should hang this guy! Today!
Bring back Samaras, he's a RENT boy.
Tsipras was dealt a piss poor hand and he bluffed and it didn't work out.
Fuck the EU!
this whole greek "tragedy" has jumped the shark.
Bring on a new diversion
Tsipras.....what a big GIANT PUSSY!
I guess it's true, the oligarchs like fucking little boys.
You are so right. Tsipras is a flakey, nutcase. I can't believe that he wants to stay in the EU this bad that he would drag his people through all of this and then turn on them. What is wrong with him. Now he will go down in his tory as the child that ruined a good country.
Start the cascade already.....burn the banks
Tsipras must feel like the captain of the Titanic...it will all be over in a short time... Now let us bow our heads..our fate does not rest with the Eurozone but in the hands of the unknown...
So Tsipras is caught between Germany wanting them out (or else) and the US demanding they stay in (or else)?
What is honesty in the EU?
The New Europe is not like the Old Europe. Survival is the only calalyst Eurocrats truly understand and they have forgotten the lessons of the WW2 Generations. One day the will all hang separately.
Getting into the habit of taking money for nothing ends this way almost every time.
Slowly they turn - twist by twist...
Tsipras an oedipus complex for Mutti ?
Tsipras is a treasonous slimeball.
The Greek people overwhelmingly said they did not want this deal.
MegalomaniacTsipras thinks and acts like he is greater than them.
Fuck em all.
The Greeks should have understood that their socialist hammock lifestyle was not sustainable.
The Germans who lent them the money should have realized the same.
Idiots, like the American people that think we can borrow and spend without consequences.
YOU SHOULD NEVER HAVE ENTERED THE DOOR.
They EU doesn't want a fair deal; nor does Tsipras. They both want the abject humiliation and subjugation of the Greek people, and will no doubt get it.
[A Broken Greek PM Says He Is "Ready For An Honest Compromise"]
Tsipras working to "out honesty" Hillary??
How short memory is in the US....
How many Americans lost their homes to corrupt bankers
who literally forced money on homeowners
in order to scam investors with CDOs and credit default swaps
while raking in megabillions in shady profit operations??
German/EU banksters pulled the same stunt again
literally forcing "free" money on Greece, knowing full well
that the most basic and elementary economics proved
that Greece would never be able to repay these "loans"
Now actively seeking to enslave Greeks, their children,
and grandchildren.
Painful as it is, Greece should bite the bullet
and get our of Eurozene and EU.
Greeks are aproud and resourceful people
they can survive----
and their children can grow up a free people>
Absolutely.
My man is now so anti-german that he wants to sell our W123 & W124 Mercedes Benz'. Anyone? They are stored in a southern PIIGS zone country. The climate is so good for preservation; but of course they wont be priced in Euros :)
He also refuses to drink beer again if he cannot have his 'Weiss Gold'.
I'll blame Shnobell for me now having to tolerate a tetchy male :)
'Athenian Rhapsody'
"Spare him his life from this monstrosity"
The Greek PM is merely trying to preserve his middle wicket.
Men are so vulnerable to having their tackle sliced off at home.
It's all a scam. The bailouts are financed by mostly the German people (and whomever in Europe finances the bailouts), none of it reaches Greece, goes directly to the Banksters, plus they get their pound (tons) of flesh from the Greeks, steal their assets, steal their sovereignty, all from electronic entries created out of thin air, infected by derivatives, interest rate swaps and compounded with compound interest. Not only should the Greeks revolt, so should the German people against the Bankster class, hang them high. And since the debt cannot be repaid, it's like a tax on the Germans on top of the debt slavery for the Greeks, indefinitely.
Odious debt. Default pronto.
An honest compromise offer from a German is typically "get in the train car"
Open those banks boys...plenty of "drachma" for everyone!
no more lines...be happy
An honest compromise? Really? With the banksters? Perp walks first. Then a nice public trial that puts the truth right out for everyone to see. Then some hangings. Then and only then would it be possible to do anything honest in talks with a bankster.
Honest compromise.... We don't payback the ORIGINAL loans and you give us more money... compromise *wink wink*
This Tsipras is like a little teenage girl that can't decide whether or not to lose her virginity to that special someone. How could anyone want to stay in the EU this bad. He is a sick leader that needs emotional help. He could have saved the day and become a Greek hero, but that time has passed. The peoplke could have been using the Drachma, Russia could be starting the pipeline and a Russian naval port could have been opened to give Greece some liquidity and to screw NATO. How rediculous!