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The Purge Begins: Tsipras To Expel Hard Core Left Wingers, Including Energy And Deputy Labor Ministers
In the first sellside reaction to the latest Greek tragicomedy, moments ago Citi's Richard Cochinos, in a note titled "72 hours for Greece" said what our readers have already known for about 6 hours: namely that "Greece will have 72 hours to implement the changes" and goes straight to the bottom line: "If they are unable to get the package through parliament, then this ends the dialogue and the government collapses.
He adds that "the issue that Greece faces is it might not be possible – cracks in Syriza appeared already over the proposal sent to Brussels, what is coming back is even more stringent than the rejected referendum. There is a decent chance the Greek government will reshuffle next week, possibly fold on reforms. Domestically they can’t afford 3-4 weeks for new elections. The Economic Minister has suggested capital controls will remain in place for the next two-months (though they may be lightened). During the tourist season this is proving to be a death touch to the economy. RyanAir announced last week it is discounting flights to Greece by 30% due to low volumes."
We had a more directed view: in light of his "mental waterboarding", Tsipras who has already lost all his credibility with both his people and the Troika, should do the only possible thing he can at this point: preserve some integrity with his voters, and resign...
Following the "mental waterboarding" Tsipras should resign right now https://t.co/bhGJaPFiTj
— zerohedge (@zerohedge) July 12, 2015
... knowing full well that it is very likely that Syriza would be re-elected in the next elections, but meanwhile throwing the ball in Europe's court for the final time, forcing the Eurozone to make the Grexit decision instead of, as Merkel has done passive-aggressively, letting Greece to pick its own poison. Also, in doing so, the blame for the collapse of the Eurozone would fall on Germany, something Merkel's ego would hardly be able to withstand.
And as if reading the collective's mind, Tsipras did already begin the governmental reshuffling, only instead of quitting he has started the purge of the hard-core leftwingers still defending the anti-bailout platform, who are certain to make life a living hell for the premier once he returns to Athens from Brussels and has to explain his actions to both his party and to the population.
As Reuters reports, the first targets of Tsipras purge of "party rebels opposed to an austerity package that will have to go through parliament within days" include the most prominent rebels, Energy Minister Panagiotis Lafazanis, leader of the so-called "Left Platform" within Syriza and Deputy Labour Minister Dimitris Stratoulis, a former unionist and a fierce opponent of pension cuts.
Under a Syriza party agreement, deputies are supposed to resign their seats if they publicly disagree with government policy although there is nothing to stop them refusing to stand down and holding on to their seats as independents.
Terence Quick, a member of the rightwing Independent Greeks, the junior coalition partner in the government, said that any deputies who voted against the government should resign.
"I don't think abstaining or being absent shows you are responsible or honorable in these particular circumstances. You either go in and say a forceful no and you leave or you say 'Yes' and you continue to fight," he said
The next scalp Tsipras would love to have is that of the "uncompromising speaker of parliament, Zoe Constantopoulou, who also defied Tsipras and abstained from the vote" although she would require a no confidence vote to be replaced "but the other rebels would be expected to resign their seats, the same people say."
And if not resign they will simply be among the first group of party leaders sacked, with many more to come as Tsipras effectively morphs into his predecessor Samaras.
According to Reuters, the 40-year-old prime minister "can not afford to wait" because "a mini-rebellion of lawmakers on Friday laid bare tensions in the ruling Syriza party. The revolt saw 17 deputies from the government benches withhold support in a vote to authorise bailout negotiations, leaving Tsipras reliant on opposition parties to pass the measure."
Dealing with the consequences of that revolt will provide a clear signal of how determined Tsipras will be in pushing through the reforms European partners are demanding.
Whether cooperation with opposition parties leads to a full-scale national unity government, with seats in the cabinet is still unclear but the change has left the future of the radical leftwing government in doubt. The government has 162 seats in the 300 seat parliament.
Then again after Friday's vote, and following this weekend's crushing blow by the Troika, it is almost certain that many Syriza loyalists will exit the party, either voluntarily or otherwise, leaving the ruling coalition with a minority vote, which in turn will likely result in a few round of government elections within 2-3 months.
However, the purge will be only the first of many hurdles now facing the morally and financially bankrupt government:
Clearing out the leftwingers still defending the anti-bailout platform on which Syriza won power in January would underline how seriously the situation has worsened for Greece in the past six months.
With the financial system on the brink of collapse and shuttered banks running short of cash, the six-year Greek crisis has escalated dangerously, forcing Tsipras to change course only a week after voters resoundingly rejected a milder package of bailout terms in a referendum.
There are also questions about how stable any such government would prove, given the deep ideological differences between Syriza and the centre-right New Democracy or Socialist Pasok parties.
But the biggest hurdle is not what Tsipras will do to the government, but rather what, if anything, the Greek people will do to Tsipras. If they have had enough, they may just shift from the "radical left" to the "radical right" as the only remaining political party that hasn't promised the sun, moon and stars, or been terminally discredited.
Unless, of course, the population, so disenchanted by the endless game of political thrones, becomes the first social manifestation of "learned helplessness" and simply refuses to care, instead opting to go gentle into that good night and with it taking what was once the world's oldest democracy.
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Golden Dawn is in Greece's future.
Man is Greece fucked. They might as well appoint Hillary to be their dictator. Same shit, different whore.
..Looks like Ex finance minister, Yanis Varoufakis will take over the leadership role, and lead Greece out of the Euro.
Drachma and California IOU's on their way
easily predictable
I wondered the same thing. I hope so.
I have never downvoted you. I am jsut going to chalk up your comment to early afternoon intoxication. Yanis? Are you fucking serious? This guy took the Golman suitase and ran with it in his Red Mini.
I've said before... tattoo the first Drachma on his fucking forehead and spend is ass around Athens.
It would approve his appearance.
So, hardcore leftist says a bunch of populist bullshit about how the government will take care of everything all the time, all he needs is an end to austerity, ends up being nothing but another bankers bitch?
Where have I seen that before? Oh ya, America!
Folks, we fucked up. We spent way too much money that we did not have. We are going to have to cut spending accross the board, reduce pensions, reduce all government benefits. Yep, we are even going to have to raise the VAT. However, we will be introdcucing a flat tax for everybody. We will end coporate welfare as quickly as possible.
On the good news side we are going to default with those pricks at the IMF.
Where is this fucking politiian?
+1000
Looking like a beta test as example. Nice Democracy you have here...it would be a shame if something happened to it...
Pay attention Italy, Spain France.
These predators probably have a Tsipras lined up in every one of those countries ready to go at a moment's notice.
I'll raise you one...
Move to a Drachma backed by whatever energy revenues come from a deal with Russia or perhaps pegged to those commodities. Guarantee pensions up to the poverty level for those that truly need it. Take all state assets that the EU has/wanted privatized (the electricity Grid, airports and sea ports) and sell them to Greek nationals only. The cloudy future of the Drachma should encourage many in the Greek Oligarchy to move into hard assets. For any Greeks that see pension reduction they get automatic stakes in the enterprises that arise from the sold assets. In place of the EU VAT and any income/corporate taxes, have a national sales tax to spur investment and fund social services. Greece would be a tourism and energy transfer hub without the disgusting tax complexity of the rest of the eurozone. They could keep a fairly high level of social services with honest and simple revenue from the sales tax.
While the majority of Greeks are stupidly trying to have it both ways by staying in the Euro and avoiding austerity, the problem seems to be the entrenched Greek political interests. They don't want an honest solution to the problem but unlike the Greek proles they actually wield the influence to keep this charade going. Tsipras isn't folding to the EU, he's folding to the Greeks who are doing just fine under the current system of can kicking and bullshit. Just like the Oligarchs in every other nation, they could give a fuck about "the people". Much like the supra-national corps their interests rarely converge with the "others" of their own nationality.
Folks we fucked up. We, your Government Leaders, always have YOUR BEST INTERESTS at heart. We are soooooooo sorry that we allowed this to happen.
So pleeeeeze empower us....Give us that second chance....TO FUCK YOU OVER AGAIN.
Tsipras has proven himself corruptable. (How many Euros has he been paid is my only question.)
But this corruption is not just limited to Greece. It is widespread thrught ALL GOVERNMENTS throughout the Globe.
Anyone who places their Faith, Trust, and Confidence into ANY GOVERNMENT WHATSOEVER, regardless if it is Socialist, Communist, Capitalist, a "Free Republic", ad infinitum, needs their fucking head examined as ALL GOVERNMENTS have proven themselves to be the most vile and corrupt of all organizations.
That people are corruptable is no surprise. How can you place your faith into that corruption when it has been made so empirically evident?
People with granted powers will always, without fail, take that trust and convert it to their OWN SELF INTERESTS. And people actually have confidence that the circumstance will be better for them...if only "their team" gets into power? Now that is a fucking laugh. Yes I am even writing about the United States, Russia, China, the European Union, Greece, it does not matter what organization that I specify...
Government is NOT a necessary EVIl, but the truth is that Government are EVIL by necessity. And far too many here will willingly choose that evil if they believe that they will garner some special and undeserved benefit.
We are in this predicament because of the follies of Human Nature. They bought YOUR VOTE with promises they never intended on keeping. They DEFRAUDED YOU because you were seeking to defraud someone else of what is rightfully theirs. They played upon YOUR PERSONAL GREED in order to line their own pockets with the proceeds from the Public Treasury.
And then they will want a second chance to do it again after this whole system meltsdown?
And my bet is that YOU WILL EMPOWER SOME OTHER ALPHA LEADER to fuck you over..because it is just Human Nature after all.
Oh I dont know about that, caving in to criminals is not set in stone. Could still see criminal bankers and politicians swinging from ropes.
Hung by a rope from the neck until dead. I think fitting punishment for the crimes they have committed. Actually better than they deserve.
Grimaldus
I am skeptical. Yanis could be enacting a script to take the heat from the EU and cool out the marks (the Greeks) for more raping. I am open to that. I am also open to it that he really is trying to march Greece right out of the Eurozone and these theatrics are about buying time so that they can get an alternative on-line. If he stays socialist, whatever they set up there will fail, too.
Mark me down if you must, it is okay.
I think they should walk away and let the whole shit shack crumble and melt. I am stunned to see this is what Tsipras is doing. We don't have the whole story, of that I am sure.
I am skeptical. Yanis could be enacting a script to take the heat from the EU and cool out the marks (the Greeks) for more raping. I am open to that.
That, my dear, is exactly what is happening. Yanis's job is done. Now it is the other mother fucker's turn to sell the Greeks a little further down the river.
That seems like a good summary. Greek politicians are dickless, spineless whores to the bankster psychopaths, and the Greek people aren't inconvenienced enough yet to do anything about it.
replace 'Greek' with 'All' and you may be onto something.
Tsipras got an offer he couldn't refuse from one side, but fears being strung up by the other.
Tough spot to be in.
What's most puzzling to me is - why is everyone pretending this debt is every going to be paid in full.
Clearly, the US debt isn't either.
frac reserve currency creation + compound interest = not complicated.
Sooner or later you run out of currency sufficient to service the debt. That's what happens when debt not only grows faster than the currency available to pay it, but when its growth also accelerates by dint of its own growth.
I know this is preaching to the choir, at least that bit but...really -
when do VSP start talking deep haircuts or debt jubilee?
After they do the ff to start the war with Iran?
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Tsipras can't bend over fast enough. Someone's got him by the short hairs.
With the new timeframe - surrender or burn - by Wednesday, he's got a lot of people to tell right to their faces that he is going to do everything he can to fuck them.
Good luck with that. It's one thing to lie to the proles, it's another to tell the people that put you in office in the first place - the real ones - that you're going to fuck them, on behalf of the Germans.
Not that they don't deserve it, it's the proles that don't deserve what's coming.
Ask an Eastern Ukrainian.
Surely it comes down to this...
Tsipras has to live in greece. His family and friends have to live in Greece. He has to go with the voice of the Greek people and refuse austerity.
It is not Tsipras job to ram EU policy down the throats of his people.
The EU has no authority and no jurisdiction in Greece without the expressed consent of the Greek people.
The right to "self determination" is article 1, chapter 1, paragraph 1 of the UN constitution of nation states. In theory the most supreme legal document on the planet. If the Greeks say OXI, then they have all the power and legal rights they need to do what the hell they like.
That is the risk you take when you lend money to deadbeats. Greece has nothing to lose any more.
He is ramming EU policy down their throats. He is refusing to refuse austerity. He is ignoring the OXI vote. If this article is correct and he is purging the left out of his cabinet, he does not have the consent of the people for what he is doing.
Tsipras Tsucks.
Can you imagine the size of the Goldman suitcase that awaits him? Maybe he out Yanised Yanis.
If it is traitor time, and it is for the suitcase of Yellinbucks, he so blatantly "turned coat" that he will not be able to live anywhere with that cash very safely.
He could live in downtown Athens in the swankiest digs possible and he would be fine. I think that you are forgetting that most people are retards with limited attention spans. Sure, he should probably take a vacation for awhile and wait for the dust to settle.
You seem to be unfamiliar with the Greek anarchists:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=14...
Yeah. To hell with the Rule of Law when nobody seems to be in compliance?
Yeah. Choas and the lack of order will solve this dilemma...this predicament.
There will always be another asshole to take the place of Tsipras. You can bet on that.
Many other Human Beings will empower that asshole as blindly as they empowered Tsipras.
Then the EU Ministry will end up corrupting them as well.
The only silver lining in the stormclouds will be that Tsipras may not live long enough to enjoy his ill gotten gains.
Killing him is no solution but it is just a continuance of the same old shit that has been happening for millenia. (Although I cannot disagree with your sentiment at all.)
The sad truth is that there are no solutions and this is due to the corruptability of Human Beings. To place any Faith, Trust, Hope, or Confidence into any Political Leader is an example of misplacing those attributes.
The best alternative is to insulate yourself from most other humans and lead a lifestyle of self sufficiency...if you are able.
Placing your Faith and Confidence into that which is eternal also helps out a bit as this World is going straight to Hell.
Tsipras and Yanis have worked for the EU/bankers to bring Greece to this point. Why do you think these two handed over the pension monies to the EU? To make the people more vulnerable for the final move
Now the stench of corruption and betrayal is too strong for it not to be smelled. They ignore the voters, purge the party and strike deals with the bankers that finally destroy the future of Greece. Once the deal is signed I would expect the bankers/jmafia behind the curtain to show an iron hand. First an iron hand financially through the forfiture of collateral (the best of what is Greece) and then when the pain gets too much for the people they will use violence.
Watch for obvious corruption in how the legal process and law enforcement is used by the jmafia working through Tsipras and the govt.. If the people turn to Golden Dawn watch for them to use the media (which they control) to demonize them further and to begin arrests on trumpted up charges (like they have to get Tsipras into power). Also watch for assasinations (suicides) of any individual who pops up and becomes a serious threat to the plan.
They are close and moving more quickly now. They smell the blood they crave and may now become ruthless.
You have to be a bankster whore to even get on the ballot! The people are left to choose this whore or that whore in every "election". It blows my mind that the people are fooled over and over again. Tsipras is bought & paid-for and is following a script, just as the usual suspects in CONgress were on the initial TPP vote. The real version of TPP was the "revised" version, which was the original version meant to be passed all along.
I would bet a gold coin that Golden Dawn has already been co-opted a-la the Tea Party.
Hang the politicians and their bankster puppet-masters. The elites HATE the common man and would be happy to kill us all so they could own the world. They're not even human. Democracy is dead! By the time people figure that out it will be too late. It probably already is.
I would bet a gold coin that Golden Dawn has already been co-opted a-la the Tea Party.
Yep. Those Goldman suitcases are hard to turn down.
She would at least sit accross the table from them and squeal hysterically, "What difference does it make?" and be useful.
Hitlary as dictator
Nuland as VP
Krugman as Treasury
Cookies for everyone...
Apparently the death threats finally made an impression on Tsipras
Fascism has no future.
how is golden dawn fascist?
Precisely, I mean.
Still no answer, huh?
I bet there will not be one forthcoming either!
You're a coward, Larssen.
and you also think in left wing platitudes, and show little sign of original thought - but you were the one to claim GD is fascist - so why can't you explain, specifically, why that is.
I'm assuming... you know what "fascist" means, but perhaps you do not.
Maybe you think it means anyone who disagrees with your easy, lazy statism.
Good question. Their focus seems primarily Nationalist. They appear to reject Globalist Oligarchical Collectivism, which necessarily includes the worst elements of Fascism ("Internationalist Capitalism") *AND* Socialism ("Internationalist Communism"). Based on their own writing, they don't seem fascist at all.
WHAT BEING A GOLDEN DAWNER MEANS
Also: Q&A: GREECE'S GOLDEN DAWN (AlJazeera, 2012)
Far-right Golden Dawn says will not back proposals sent to Greece's creditors (Rooters, 10-July)
That might be true, but why the upticks?
Is everyone on ZH a Nazi-Sympathiser?
Come on people, a few weeks from now, you'll find out that Golden Dawn is financed by the ZioCon scum that control the world's banksters.
I get it, the EU is a nightmare - but ushering in the Golden Dawn? How will that ease the misery?
It is not a show of support, it is acknowledging what they think is a liklihood. I am not as sure as they are but I do not see it as support, more like resignation.
Got it.
You deserve a Golden Shower into your mouth.
"You deserve a Golden Shower into your mouth." - Chupa
There you go again Chupa, talking to your whore of a mother whilst you type.
Eat my shit asshole - I was asking a question, but it is a pity that Zionist Neo-Nazi had to answer it.
Tell your mother I said hello, and I'll be round later with the guys and my video crew.
The media tends to call all parties that are Eurosceptic Fascist of some variety. Just because they said it doesn't mean it's true.
Unless you have some evidence to support your ascertion... No?
Phoneix.
Yes, I do. It is from the golden-dawn horse it self.
They are openly fascist in the same way the Ukrainian Right Sector and the Zionists are. Simple really.
Of course, I understand that not all Eurospectics are fascists.
I mean UKIP are most certainly not. They are simply bigots. But that's ok, because we love little englander bigots here in the UK.
Ta Muchly!
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Can't you do your own research? Here, I'll get you started: http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/11/13/greeces-neo-nazis-were-scarier-than-...
Google is your friend.
That is a paid website, I cannot access it.
I looked up Golden Dawn and found articles from the usual suspects, the BBC and Guardian, who freely would allow their journalists to call UKIP racist. I then found some info. On a trial of the Golden Dawn but there is nothing to make me believe that in a country for whom the EU has real interest, these could not have been a set up.
Real Fascists there would simply be links to better information. I trust the media so little I do not believe this group to be Nazi sympathisers.
foreign policy mag is a ZIONIST RAG.
Funny how nationalist parties in Europe get the nazi and fascist smear merely for wanting to stem immigration.... but Israel's right wing parties can have ministers serve who openly called for ethnic cleansing, even genocide - and there's nary a word in the MSM
http://www.alternet.org/world/how-israel-covers-its-ugly-racial-holy-war
That there are some violent thugs in the right wing isn't particularly new.
At issue is why GD's platform is so odious to the DEU establishment, and, oh yeah - Zionist Jews.
such as those who run FP, Slate, foreign affairs - indeed, it is hard to find a major news or opinion website that doesn't have a disproportionate amount of Jewish editors/owners staff.
I know, I know
when 2.5% of the population is 30, 40, 70% of editors and managers, it is "hate" to note it, but if there are too many "white guys" at the fire department, like 80% instead of 60%... why that's something we need to all talk about.
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MIGHT it be that GD stands for the interests of the Greek people qua the Greek people - versus globalists and Zionist Jewry?
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You bet it might.
No one, or very few - advocate street thuggery or violence, etc. and its true GD has had some people they should kick out.
But no more so than what happens in Ukraine.
Or Israel.
http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2015/06/why-cant-isra...
It is crazy but the Golden Dawn is the only party right now talking about restarting the Greek economy. Every other party is just yapping about staying in the Euro, tax, pensions, cuts, tax, austerity, blah, blah, blah, tax and tax.
vote Golden Dawn
"vote Golden Dawn"
Why?
I ask this question seriously. Why?
You trollin bro? No way is that serious. That is serious irony.
No, no trollin "bro".
I'm serious. I mean Golden Dawn is allied to the Ukrainian Right Sector - and you want these people in charge???
Because they have never changed their rhetoric on anything ever and if they got elected, they have such a nasty right wing, aggressive reputation no one will try to pressure them into anything. Unless Dieselboom and the rest in the Eurogroup want to get physically assaulted.
So the only option left will be for Greece to stand up on its own.
I'll take your seriousness serious.
Because GD seems to be the most interested in helping the Greek people.
And because this debt is odious and should simply be repudiated, and Greece should leave the EU and EZ for partnerships with the BRICs.
Don 't so easily believe the hype re Golden Dawn.
The press calls GD "Nazis" for resisting massive 3rd world immigration and an ongoing loss of sovereignty - but doesnt say much at all with regard to the actual, bonafide, no kidding Nazis used to engender an anglo-zionist coup in Ukraine.
vote Golden Dawn, because they are right. Its all the 7 migrant workers fault that Greece had a 350 billion Euro party where they bought the wine from france, the cheese from denmark and they drove there in a German BMW.
straw man much, dickhead?
fuck you.
The people that ate, drank and drove that stuff were long term members of Club Zio.
The people didn't get shit compared to those trolls.
That is true, so the golden dawn should bash their heads instead of running around chasing the few migrants. Everyone in Europe know where the 3dr world migrants go, northern Europe, greece is just a transit. You can tell the EU and Zios to fuck of without being a savage.
That is true, so the golden dawn should bash their heads instead of running around chasing the few migrants. Everyone in Europe know where the 3dr world migrants go, northern Europe, greece is just a transit. You can tell the EU and Zios to fuck of without being a savage.
Eurosceptic parties often talk about immigration since A) They are the only people standing up to the problems in relation to it when the neo- liberal political class will not touch it, and B) It brings attention to the EU's immigration policies.
Every EU country has the right to say fuck of to mighrants, like Finland and they just told Greece to also fuck of
Every EU country has the right to CONTROL it's borders, to allow skilled migrants in from outside the EU, and to take the refugees they want to; and to disallow those migrants that are not beneficial to the economy if they are not needed.
Also, every country has the right to deal with thorny issues like Female Genital Mutilation and Sharia law, and should not use the accusation of 'racism' against to stop the policing of these concerns.
Countries are bullshit constructs (one of many) used by those who wish to control humanity to separate the herd into manageable groups that can be set against each other so that they never fight the true enemy.
Human rights should mean exactly that.
Same rights for every human.
Does your life matter more to me than some dude wandering around with a bow and arrow in the Amazon?
No.
Same goes for him and you, regarding me.
Wake the fuck up.
Sell out fucking pussy assed bitch.
WALK AWAY. What the hell is wrong with him?
Meow!
He's so far out of his depth he's drowning.
The Corporation showed him the video of Gaddafi's still beating heart. After blaming him for everything they did to harm his people they supplied the most criminal with Royal Halliburton farming equipment and paid them to ass rape Gaddafi, skin him some, burn him some, ass rape him some more, until his rotten meat sloughed off. There is only one Corporation. Obviously there are quite a few things they don't have. And never will. The Chinese were right to put caulks in cages, after what the Dominicans and seafaring eurasian haplogroups did with their initial hospitality.
Just how do the starry eyed facist pissants at NSA keep losing track of all that money? They aced Psychotic Displacement Conditioning. Cop training includes this military dehumanization too. It has excellent blind spots. That dildo drone was sweet. Should have poked the speaker in the eye with it, but that would have been a tourist act. Notice the pilot keeps the distance defendable. Corporate agents don't. When they step inside your physical safety area (2') loudly inform them that they are threatening you. If they don't step back, you're free to defend yourself. Your survival is directly proportional to your training. Your legal defense of the proportion of your response is inversely proportional to your documented training. So use your head. Psych warfare works both ways... you know the spies fear us. They hide in our institutions. One trick conversion from "You're Anti-Arab" to "You're racist". they should be afraid. They are crooks.
How many hours does the average American work? 2. Work is for Chumps. Thieving and Raping and Murdering is the new American dream. Be sure to tip Mastah Holder at the door, orangazoinista posers. I have Jewish inlaws. They are incredibly stupid. They lie all the time because the men can't even keep their one trick in the air without their womenz covering for them. Then they beat their women down. Not long. Not long.
Forget Syria, Looking at birth rates The World has been failing White Women The Most since Jackie got pushed back into the target area.
Not long.
Loved how Varafoukas' website is so polished for an international audience. OpSoros.
so this is his last face to show?
hope so ...
Tsipras is a biotch.
"We're in deep trouble so let's form a circular firing squad". No strategy, no tactics and no clue, just frigging dandy......
Citi's article is a distraction - the real question (with global geo consequenses) is on the front page of the Liberation (http://journal.liberation.fr/publication/liberation/1908/#!/0_0)
(translation: what is germany playing at?)
Team GS showing itself in the light. Greece is a client/puppet state. The fix is in. Blackmail and bribery win again, as usual.
Where are the Greek youth in all this?? They should be on the streets with pitch forks!!
they are there #thisisacoup - from all over europe too
Tsipras is trying to avoid Gaddafi's fate at the hands of Zion.
May be too late, as I hear the patter of the "Color Revolution's" feet.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..
It is either from the Zion OR the Greeks Souvlaki type.
The Greeks do have guns mostly hunting rifles and The Cretans from the WARII.
Also The best Guerrila Fighters and the terrain is best in the mainland and Crete.
Their toys will do nothing as the Greeks are better at night. I 've experienced it when on Holiday.
Also the best Smugglers the world has ever known.
Good luck with taking over the Country with Fiat currency.
"Next up THE AREMNIANS LAUNCH AN ISKANDER AT TEL AVIV!"
I guess we'll have to wait and find out if it's a "nuclear thingy."
(Won't have to wait long tho!)
Seriously...no call for a "Government of National Unity"?
I swear to God this whole thing is a REALLY bad movie script.
Radical Left/Right as descriptions are Laughable.
ALL Important Decisions are decided by a SELECT FEW.
Who's kidding who here?
Sheep Get Suckered.
PATHETIC.
Who is your Master Tsipras?
It isn't the people of Greece who control you. It isn't God.
What does a man like you who would turn traitor do to sleep at night. The person who should be purged is you and let them start from a clean slate.
Merkelsteinbergman made him join Club Zio or face death.
Tsipras is a financial genius!!
He just exchanged 30 pieces of silver for a secret account at Goldman Sachs with $100 million in it!
Nah. Alexis actually just gets to keep breathing, and is expected to be grateful.
When this is over he just might be for real.
Niall, it's probably a combination of both.
He can watch his family be erased, or he can have $100 million.
Choose wisely
They don't even need to offer the $100 million. They only need threats now.
Yes, clearly they found something to use to press Tsipas.
I dont know what it is, maybe in 50 yers we will know what they used.
I dont think it is money, I would rather suspect some threats to his relatives or family. Too many things are being in play here, so CIA and friends will use any blackmail they can find....
Best next step for Greece is a civil war in which ALL the socialists and communists are purged.
Zoe's a start. You'll really know we've turned the corner when Tsipras finally grows a dick and "purges" Batshit Betty.
Betty's two boys aren't his. Trust me on this.
With Tsipras purging left-wingers that is surely the final insult to the Greek electorate who voted for Syriza and OXI in the referendum.
Difficult to believe that one politician can be so traitorous and double-crossing.
There are plenty where Tsipras came from. It's early...
Difficult to believe? That's like saying it's difficult to believe that a mechanic fixes things. He's a politician. It's what they do.
Out of the dark night into a Golden Dawn.
And a Golden Shower for Merkel's face.
The Germans like that kind of thing. Don't encourage it. Unless you want to...
Left or Right, Right or Wrong, they all took fiat finance and debt...like Sisyphus pushing the debt boulder up the Volcano, too much debt leads to this point...always.
Dance on a Volcano
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVeBR-hOTlo
Holy Mother of God
You've got to go faster than that to get to the top.
Dirty old mountain
All covered in smoke, she can turn you to stone
So you better start doing it right
better start doing it right.
You're halfway up and you're halfway down
And the pack on your back is turning you around.
Throw it away, you won't need it up there, and remember
You don't look back whatever you do.
Better start doing it right.
On your left and on your right
Crosses are green and crosses are blue
Your friends didn't make it through.
Out of the night and out of the dark
Into the fire and into the fight
Well that's the way the heroes go, Ho! Ho! Ho!
Through a crack in Mother Earth,
Blazing hot, the molten rock
Spills out over the land.
And the lava's the lover who licks your boots away. Hey! Hey! Hey!
If you don't want to boil as well.
B-B-Better start the dance
D-D-Do you want to dance with me.
You better start doing it right.
The music's playing, the notes are right
Put your left foot first and move into the light.
The edge of this hill is the edge of the world
And if you're going to cross you better start doing it right
better start doing it right.
You better start doing it right.
Let the dance begin.
just know when to give up the euro already
Oh how I hate this piece of shit! How dare he does this to his people. The people had better burn down Athens because this has gone too far. With incompitants like Tsipras the only other choice for the people is revolution.
anyone else notice a pattern here?
GS is probably holding a gun to his wifes head...
Apparently, Tsipras, was thinking fun and games before elected...Now, would like to forget the cheese, get out of this trap.
do what you were elected to do and let the chips fall where they may
Such a clear road in front of Greece to exit, but Tsipras instead struggles with all his might to stay.
On the other hand, the Greek military has staged coups before, most recently in 1967, so the
tradition is alive and well. You've gotta wonder if they aren't considering it. Not saying they should;
just sayin'. God knows the Greek gov is crumbling.
He's just doing what coup maestra Victoria Nuland told him to do. Any meat head with half a brain can figure that one out.
Victoria Nuland nee Nudelman.
Another Zio hiding their identity after getting a nose job.
And who invented nose jobs?
he himself has to go.
And make place to Golden Dawn.
Coup d'État coming.
Long broken legs and bicycle accidents...
That's it, i have lost any respect i had left for this Punk Ass Little Bitch. I almost hope the Greek people drag his ass out of parliment and hang the traitor, cause that is what he is. Paid off.....plain and simple.
And Futures havent even farted to acknowledge. They are pricing in a greek fold. Euro down .38 as I type....
I expect a green opening on the positive news of a greek cabinet reshuffle. Cant make this stuff up.
I also missed an Iran deal, giving them the bomb....
Win Win weekend, might be up 2% tomorrow.
Iran was not and is not working on a nuclear weapon.
Why do you think they are?
This guy?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/07/12/iran-nuclear-talks-netanyahu_n_...
consider:
FBI Documents Show Israeli PM Worked In Nuclear Smuggling Ring
http://www.mintpressnews.com/fbi-documents-show-israeli-pm-worked-in-nuc...
Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu Linked to Nuclear Technology Smuggling Ring – FBI Files
http://www.globalresearch.ca/israeli-prime-minister-netanyahu-linked-to-...
Benjamin Netanyahu’s Long History of Crying Wolf About Iran’s Nuclear Weapons
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/02/brief-history-netanyahu-cr...
Israel certainly has the bomb - hundreds. And they stole nuclear tech from the US to build some. and they've built them all while crying wolf on Iran for decades, while bulldozing Palestinian homes and establishing apartheid colonies in defiance of international law and crying 'anti-semite' at anyone who protests their periodic, deliberate war crimes.
So again - why do you think that a deal was made "giving them the bomb..."
Israeli ministers demand end to US spying
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/israeli-ministers-demand-end-us-spying
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Israel Won’t Stop Spying on the U.S.
https://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2014/05/07/israel-wont-stop-spying-on...
Israel Won’t Stop Spying on the U.S.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article38433.htm
Snowdon will soon reveal that the White House has bugging devices planted by the Israelis. Recordings of Obama on tape.
another 'no answer' from another Fox News fucking idiot.
lol.
Question for you:
Do you believe the STUXNET virus was created by the US and Israel?
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/25/world/middleeast/us-agencies-see-no-mo...
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/asia/item/10468-us-intelligence...
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http://www.thenation.com/article/its-official-pentagon-finally-admitted-...
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/03/31/shout-it-from-the-rooftops-israe...
I believe you can not produce any evidence that Iran, which has signed the NPT and allows inspections, is working on a nuclear weapon or diverting nuclear material.
I'd also note that Iran has a right to a nuclear weapon since Israel has hundreds and has engaged in state terrorism against Iranian civilians for years... sometimes posing as Americans when working with a group on the US terror list until the Jew lobby had it removed.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2012/01/13/false-flag/
I believe you are prepared to unleash all manner of regurgitated talking points which all fail to demonstrate either that Iran is working on a nuke - OR WHY THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE ANY WHEN THE US AND ISRAEL - WHO ROUTINELY KILL HUNDREDS OF CIVILIANS - HAVE ENOUGH NUKES TO KILL ALL HUMAN LIFE.
All you got is racism and hypocrisy.
When Fuel Rods are depleted what are the Waste Products?
Let me ask you the question explicitly...
How much 94Pu239 is available as Nuclear Waste?
Is 94Pu239 Weapons Grade Material?
Do you understand that 92U235 is not the only surce for Atomic Bombs and Atomic Triggers for Thermonuclear Bombs?
Do you know that the US Government gives away Atomic Reactors to Foreign Nations?
Do you also understand that they must agree that they will turn over their Nuclear Waste Rods to the United States in return for such an endowment?
The problem which the neocons have is that Iran has NO SUCH AGREEMENT with the IAEA..er...I mean the United States.
As a result Iran will end up with a STOCKPILE of Weapons Grade Plutonium...NOT THAT THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT ON THE FACE. Plutonium can also be used to produce energy for peaceful applications.
But the neocons in the United States Government and the Israeli Government do have a problem with that...
And that is how we are giving them "the bomb" if Obama does not act to steal their Plutonium.
Personally I believe that a producer has the right to keep the gains from his production.
That is the individualist approach after all.
I am not entitled to your production and you are not entitled to mine...by taxes or by any other Socialist machination.
Likewise the United States is not entitled to the production of the Nation State of Iran...no matter how supposedly dangerous it may be.
By the way...We do not play that Red Team//Blue Team bullshit here.
Since you do and that is the reason why you get the junks. And, furthermore, many here do not support the Nation State of Israel.
ZH is not a Zionazi blog. Most here have rejected all Main Stream News as it is basically propaganda. Many here hold the same contempt for Fox News as they do for CNN, NBC, CNBC, and all corporate spokespeople.
And you are just impressing us that you are just another halfwitted CORPORATE PARROT.
At least I will give you the benefit of the doubt and a Heads Up.
What a pity but if the Greeks don't stand up to this and go to the street then I don't know either. Of course their situation is pretty hopeless, either tomorrow or on Tuesday the ATMs will run out of cash so ordinary people are in a worse position but hell I'd still be out in the streets. Stop working, stop paying taxes, stop doing anything that supports the system so it may collapse. Do anything to harm that government and the EU for betraying that country...
And now we see the endgame of controlled opposition. The people have rejected their assigned "savior" and so he begins to cleanse the ranks of those who oppose the yoke of the EU elitist thieves.
What's next for the fake "leadership" when they fail to get the people of Greece under control? Color revolution?
Agreed, more of the left-right puppet show. The Greek thing stinks of stage drama drawn out by TPTB to demonstrate the futility of democratic self-rule. Let me guess, the whole thing ends in martial law and a strong-man/emergency powers dictator (Golden Dawn or not) to block a Greek exit to BRICS so they can be properly sacrificed on the EU altar as disobedient vassals.
if golden dawn were an israeli party they'd be left wing
How Israel Covers Up Its Ugly Racial Holy War
http://www.alternet.org/world/how-israel-covers-its-ugly-racial-holy-war
The Only Abe Foxman Interview You Need To Read
https://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2015/07/12/the-only-abe-foxman-interv...
“Balance” in UN Gaza report can’t hide massive Israeli war crimes
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/balance-un-gaza-report...
I read the report and it doesn't mention Greece, the referendum, or EU finances. Should I be concerned that The Tylers accidentally posted the wrong headline for your discussion?
For that kind of game, you can't have the liberal left and expect anything. They're very hot on progressivism, Foucault gibberish, feminism, cool motorbikes and cars, free porn for all and Queer theory, but they suck at class warfare. Too well-fed, too much in love with themselves, personal power, whores and status symbols. Useless. They will morph into lackeys of what they purport to fight at the first opportunity.
For that, you need Marxists, and not of the "erratic" kind like Varoufakis, but tough harliners who understand that this is war. You need Lenin-like revolutionaries, real men.
Greek debt crisis: Goldman Sachs could be sued for helping hide debts when it joined euro
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/greek-debt-crisis-goldman...
Goldman, BofA, Morgan, and a handful of others ought to be broken up anyway.
Ayn Randians and Ideologues aside, they do more harm to actual capitalism than anything else, they fuck up democracy and markets - how much is enough?
How much have you got?
Time to tuck in the shirt, put on the tie and exit left Tsipras.
Well I be damn. He is actually firing socialists, I am(slowly) starting to like this guy. Also, I disagree with ZH that Tzipras should resign. While its true people voted "no", they also want to stay in EU and keep euro. Getting rid of socialists is among the first positive steps for Greece`s better future. I`ll be interested to see if he is for real or it was just smoke & mirror.
The people voted - This guy is ignoring their votes.
Anyone need more proof that voting is a waste of time?
As for the terms 'socialist' 'capitalist' 'democracy' they are all bandied about endlessly. They have no real meaning - they are just buttons pressed to wind up the gullible.
So, things will be coming back as they were last December or worse, except ordinary Greeks will suffer more than before. Namely EU continue extending and pretending that Greece is solvent and that she will implement so-called reform i.e. orders to dismantle the Greek state and continue with further impoverishment of society with NO HOPE FOR ECONOMIC STABILIZATION OR GROWTH.
This is nothing short of insanity, with success measured via propaganda constructs of “All’s Well in the Union” that no one in EU , except for Brussels technocrats was left to believe in.
There will be no reforms in Greece but slow motion crush and collapse of Greek society until next “Crisis” will demand more fiction and more insanity. The Greek state and society has extreme serious, internal issues that threaten their statehood that must be addressed but neither Greek politicians nor EU bureaucrats want to do anything about them since their corrupted interests are dependent on greed, lies, deceit no matter how much suffering they bring to the population.
Below there is a quote from my comment from few days ago which attempts to explain apparent and now not so puzzling moves by Syriza we are witnessing past few months.
power corrupts
challenges to power are corrupted and coopted.
Behind this all, at least is seems to me, is anglo-zionist megalomania.
That is - this isn't about debt or debt obligations - it is about cementing the power of technocrats working for banks ultimately owned by a handful of oligarchs/dynastic families.
Call it globalism, but there is certainly a large Jewish {'Zionist
' is malapropos here} cuckoo egg in the NWO nest.
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2014/09/anglozionist-short-primer-for-...
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article39801.htm
http://www.deliberation.info/domination-strategies-anglo-zionist-empire/
Zbig and the militarist pseudo "realists" are, 'anglo' in the sense of not Zionists or Jews, are gunning for russia to remove all rivals
but bear in mind that th eOld Bolsheviks [n/w/s wikipedia memory holing] were largely Jewish and the "oligarchs" who raped Russian wealth were almost all Jews
http://www.softpanorama.org/Skeptics/Pseudoscience/harvard_mafia.shtml
THE POINT HERE is not to convince people who will never even *begin* to allow that organized Jewish interests have acted to pursue their own interests over and over {even if such people would believe it a bout ANY OTHER GROUP - a tacit Jewish Supremacism hiding behind a Potemkin humanism}
The point is - to what extent is the NWO/ZWO **dealing with internal dissent over Greece, Russia, and Iran?"
The NWO isn't a monolith {neither perhaps is International Jewry despite the 56755677 organizations Jews/Zionists have to promote their own interest}....
There might be some throwing under the bus that could happen.
The *resistance* to NWO/ZWO plans is much stronger than some thought...
running this through some potentialities... maybe some in the "elite" will try to throw others under the bus, maybe along anglo/zio lines, or maybe along bank/military lines....
But its possible.
The Iran deal and Likud's efforts to provoke Iraq 2.0 so they have a free hand to attack and annex lebanon, golan, sinai and beyond is in play...
But it is the play of religious zealots - warmongering idiots - and perhaps the divide is between the religious nutjob idiots, and more secular, anti-national forces...
But this week may prove more interesting than most of us would like.
Tspiras and the finance minister that resigned are there to steer the Greeks into accepting the proposals of the Germans. They got the wrong result from the referendum, the threats didn't work and now they have to back pedal and carry on with the original plan of implementing the theft of Greek assets. Once Tspiras is booted out the finance minister will resurface as the Saint of the Greek's freedom and then he will sell out as well.
Hopefully the Greeks will get out of the elitist controlled EU and set up like Iceland. Take the exit plan, but make it 5 months not 5 years.
Clearly Tsipras and Greece overestimated the leverage they had against Merkel and the EU. But Merkel and the EU, evidently unawares, are overestimating the leverage they have against Mr. Market.
Bernanke did the same thing seven years ago. After the Fed had enabled the bubble that had been growing ever larger after the tech wreck in 2000, when the involuntary deleveraging began, he decided it was time to get tough on Lehman as an example to the others. After all, Lehman represented only a fraction of the banking sector, its losses were a couple or three billion a quarter. Nothing, really. Easy to contain. What could possibly go wrong?
Same type of scenario has been playing out in Greece, except that Greece is a sovereign country, not a hedge fund disguised as an investment bank, and its problems are ten or twenty times larger than Lehman's was. No big deal, of course, compared to the whole EU, right? After all, that's what every talking head on BubbleVision is saying. Nope. Wrong.
See that third black swan of the last 15 years wandering at last into the middle of the picture frame? Take the snapshot now so you can show your grandkids that you were there when the third and truly devastating bubble burst. The only question now is whether the March 2009 lows will hold.
After everyone puts Greece through the proverbial meat grinder - letting whatever comes out the end fall on the floor - let's all stomp on it and see if we can make a viable, functional country out of the mess. Is that about right?
Fuck Greece. They deserve everything they're getting. Richly. Just like the rest of us are going to as the tsunami rolls on.
Is this what is meant by "Grexit" at the local political level?
Greece seems to be becoming like Ukraine where they are inviting Americans to become MPs & ministers
In other words a vassal state of -- whomsoever controls it.
The future of Greece may be uglier than many anticipate.
Consider these snapshots from history:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/30/athens-1944-britains-dirty-...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Civil_War
The division between Left and Right in Greece is strong, with a history of blood.
This is why the ECB's political meddling is so very stupid. Unless a new course is plotted soon, the old tensions in Greece may be reinvigorated in bloodshed.
And don't anyone try to tell me that the ECB is not playing politics in Greece. An agency that is supposed to actively prevent bank-runs is actively causing them. Sorry, that's politics, a perverse and wilful attempt to turn the people of Greece against their own government where there is no technical requirement for it to be so.
Greece is damned if it does (leave the Euro) and damned if it doesn't. Leaving the Euro (but not the EU) *should* be the lesser of two evils, but only if TPTB show compassion and provide support during the transition. This will likely not be the case. Instead, I expect TPTB will want to make the transition as painful as possible (economic warfare) so as to scare any other nation that may be thinking of leaving. I doubt they care even one iota for the well-being and security of Greek citizens and that, in my opinion, positions them as enemies of humanity.
On the course set by the current leadership vacuum I expect to see Greek "bomb outrages" in the news soon.
At least wait for the proverbial fat lady to stop singing, that is, if she ever does.
The Greeks are masters at running rings around everybody. Moar popcorn please.
From here on in its all The Corporation plan. Done. Tsipras is a bitch.
There is only one Corporation, dates back to William of Orange.
Check it.