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'1984' Comes To Europe - The End Of Freedom Of Speech In Spain
Submitted by Martin Armstrong via ArmstrongEconomics.com,
Spain has shown that it is fully on board with the Brussels authoritarian direction of ending democracy. Those in power have simply convinced themselves that the people do not understand what is good for them so they must impose their will upon the people but raw force. How does this differ in any what from the justification of imposing communism? This is the death of all freedom and it is upon our doorstep.
Here are the new laws in Spain:
1. If you photograph security personnel and then share these images on social media: up to €30.000 fine (particularly if photo exposes violence used against a member of the public). This fine could increase depending on the number of Instagram or social media followers you have.
2. Tweet or retweet information or the “location of an organized protest” can now be interpreted as an act of terrorism as it incites others to “commit a crime” (now that “demonstrating” in many ways has become a crime). Sound “1984”-ish? Read about Orwell and his time in Spain.
3. Snowden-like whistle blowing is now defined as an act of terrorism. If you write for a local publication, be careful what you print, whom you speak to, and whether the government is listening.
4. Visiting or consulting terrorist websites – even for investigative purposes – can be interpreted as an act of terrorism. Make sure you use “Tor” browser, reject cookies, and don’t allow pop-ups. Not to mention, don’t post it on your Facebook timeline!
5. Be careful with the royal jokes! Any satirical comment against the royal family is a new crime “against the Crown”. For example, “What did Leticia and the Bishop have to say after they ––“ (SORRY CENSORED).
6. No more hassling elected members of the government or local authorities – even if they say one thing in order to be elected, but then go and do the exact opposite. Confronting them about this hypocritical behavior. Even if you see them in the street chatting to a street cleaner, dining at their favorite expensive restaurant, or having their shoes shined by that physics graduate who cannot find a decent job in the country, hassling them about their behavior is now a criminal offence.
7. Has your local river been so polluted by that plastic factory along the edge that all life has extinguished? Well, tough! Greenpeace or similar protests are now finable from €601–€30.000.
8. Protests in a spontaneous way outside Parliament are now illegal. For example if Parliament passes a hugely unpopular bill, or are debating something extremely important to you or your community, it is now finable from €601 – €30.000. Tip: Use Google Maps to protest just around the corner – but don’t tweet the location!
9. Obstructing an officer in the course of their business, “resisting arrest”, refusing to leave a demonstration when told, or getting in the way of a swinging baton are all now finable offences from €601 – €30.000.
10. Showing lack of respect to officers of the law is an immediate fine of €100 – €600. Answering back, asking a disrespectful question, making a funny face, showing your bottom to an officer of the law, or telling him/her that their breath reminds you of your dog’s underparts is now, sadly, not advisable.
11. Occupying, squatting, or refusing to leave an office, business, bank or other place until your complaint has been heard as a protest is now a €100 – €600 fine (no more flash mobs).
12. Digital protests: Writing something that could technically “disturb the peace” is a now a crime. Bloggers beware, for no one has yet defined whose peace you could be disturbing.
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1984 came to the land of the free decades ago - what took so long in Spain?
Edward Snowden says NSA spying worse than Orwell’s ‘1984’ in his 'Alternative Christmas Message'December 25, 2013
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/edward-snowden-nsa-spying-worse-or...
'Orwell's 1984 a fairytale compared to reality': Snowdenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91N_KhL9670
Yeah, way to over flow the police courts and prisons and set up for a nice revolt!
DUHHHH!
Bitch, the year is 2015
....and you WILL buy heathcare.
We'll send further instructions later.
Arrested and imprisoned for saying: "The King has no clothes." Sad.
....or for calling him a King
These wise authoritarians should be arrested for allowing the bankers to bury their nations in debt. They are just trying to protect themselves, using laws, for their crimes/greed.
Look, the Spaniards bent themselves over right after the train bombings. They pulled out of Afghanstain and all other anti-Islamic action around the world. That they should so easily surrender their civil liberties should come as no surprise. What's the Ben Franklin quote about those who will compromise a little freedom for a little peace? The Spaniards should expect the very same results soon.
Think this won't come to America? It will. And the Supreme Court will rule it all constitutional based on some made up interpretation of the constitution as a 'living document', and half, or more, of the brain dead sheep in this country will cheer it on, since it will most likely be clothed in language that says it's to restrict 'hate speech', or anything that anyone can possibly find offensive.
Generalissimo Francisco Franco is no longer dead.
We have some friends that are very liberal politically, and really believe that any opinion that is too different than their own could be considered hate speech, and should not be allowed. REALLY..., they think they are patriots.
The phrase "Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition" will now have to be permanently retired.
We'll throw a re-tread on that with "Nobody objects to the Spanish Inquisition...or else".
There...fixed.
... "Be careful with the royal jokes!" ...
... "... Last month, Princess Cristina was indicted on charges of complicity in fraud, tax evasion, money laundering and embezzlement, the first member of a European royal family to be charged in a serious crime in centuries.
The principal case revolves around her husband, Duke of Palma Iñaki Urdangarin, who is accused of fraud, tax evasion, forgery and the embezzlement of $7.8 million from regional governments through inflated contracts via their non-profit organization, Institute Noos."
... wait, this is not a "joke" ... it's just to show that these royals are a joke >>> "Spain's Royal Family In Danger Of Losing Crowns" >>> http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/05/08/spanish-monarchy/2145149/ ...
overwhelm TPTB...word of mouth protests, in the thousands, everywhere...carrying no I.D.
i knew it but such detailed rebuilding of the sniffing is mindblowing.
~"The phrase "Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition" will now have to be permanently retired."~
That is so true it is sickening.
Exactly, they are well on their way to a leftist/feminist/bankster dictatorship, Spain's draconian and unjust legislation is incredible. Read up on the Spainish feminist domestic violence legislation coming soon to Western Police State Near You. The use of feminism as an arm of the police state is now well established, ask Julian Assange. The forces are overwhelming, the dream of freedom and democracy the founders of the US invisioned was beautiful. The best I can hope for is the US does not become a complete Leftist/Stalinist Style State before I die. I need some good whiskey and a cigar.........
The Spanish are a fiesty bunch. Should be interesting to see how this pans out. Riddle me this .. if you can't get a job there, and can't speak your mind there, then why the fuck would anyone stick around (besides the Spanish babes)?
~"The Spanish are a fiesty bunch."~
Maybe some their women, but the rest of them are just a bunch of bend-over cunts.
Thay had a particularly nasty civil war you may want to read up on. You will still see a few old men without noses there.
Is it Helicopter?
"I need some good whiskey and a cigar........."
For whisky, get yourself a peated Islay such as Laphroaig or Ardbeg, give yourself a few "doses" for your taste buds to adjust and you will never look back!
Philo man... Shhh You are trying to increase demand on a precious liquid. This is not like Precious Metals that go down in price when demand soars! Come on man... I am still acquiring for the apocalypse.
Go "All in!" as you lay down the 1st Amendment and as you scream "Prove it or pay up, bitches."
You can do that.
That is the point.
Take the point.
Win the game.
All government must trend toward greater tyranny.
Martin Armstrong is now a wanted man in Spain.
Martin Armstrong is a wanted man in English 101.
I want to cut up the royal babies and bbq them.
Everyone get a little toothpick sized taste!
I will help you with the first part, but not the second.
I don't eat rancid meat.
And the both of you ought to seek professional help for your cannibalistic tendencies.
That was dumb. Let's not forget who the real psychopaths are.
Or up-arrowing someone's post about "the King has no clothes." Just sayin'...
They're considering televising punishment of violators for the public's entertainment. The show will be called "The Running Man."
For those not familiar, the Europeans use periods in place of commas when writing numbers. €30.000 is thirty-thousand euros.
No wonder the fucking EU is falling apart!
Cause most people thought they were borrowing only €30.
Too funny..., +100
Courts ... who mentioned Courts?
"Stop honking, I am reloading."
Don't you people understand?
We are only trying to protect you from terrorists and Putin!!
And if you don't help us or hate Putin enough then you must be terrorist.
Spain's fascist past is creeping out. Good to see this Euro trash bringing out all the good forces in Europe, I'm sure that was what they intended!
Me thinks Spanish Mausers just jumped in price.
I have been guilty of 10 on several occasions. Whatever the USD equivalent is...is fine by me. What did I do wrong officer CockGobbler?
That is $300 for the word cock and $100 for gobbler, sir.
Sounds reasonable, sir....as I whisper cockgobbler a second time.
Inflation has certainly raised the price. The following is true. I apologize in advance for the profanity, but that is what this is about; to wit.....
Dad, who is gone now, found himself in court over a parking situation. He had a large truck, that had been uniquely titled originally, so it could make residential deliveries. He parked in the same spot, always, in front of his shop, in a city neighborhood. Some neighbors would complain, and police would come a " chalk" the tires. Dad would just move it six inches, and this would go on for days, sometimes. That's the basic premise.
So Dad finds himself in traffic court over this. While arguing his case, he politely makes the statement that the officer is not a traffic expert. The Judge, a woman, looks at Dad and declares " this is MY court, and if I say he is an expert, he is an expert" . Well that flipped Pop's switch, and looked at the judge and said " why you dickless bitch!"
The judge said " what did you say?"
Dad replied, " you heard me me, you fucking cunt!" Eeeewwww... Not good.
In court...to a judge....
Contempt... 22 days or $10.00 a day..
I'll do the time. Lost the case, hauled out cuffs...to jail. Real jail, not the lockup. Now dad was a tough bird, but within hours he was calling his brother, find the money and get me out of here!
Of all the crazy crap he did, he wasn't to keen on this one. He used to tell me, a lot of times in life, you need to bite your tongue.
Pops was a decent guy, all in all. But he took no crap.
Spain never ceased to be a Franquista state.
I suggest an emergency air drop of prints of Picasso's Guernica.
Bullish.
Obviously, they don't understand Netwon's third law.
Spain has been a democracy for less time than I've been out of short trousers, and it shows.
Stalin would have been proud. USSA, learn this new way to rise urgent needed funds.
"I have decided the USSR must have homos."
"Oh, Joe, I never thought..."
"Hey! Back off, Molotov, it don't apply to High Party Memebers."
Actually, Stalin restored the normalcy of family life after the Bolshevik Jews (you know, the trotskyite variety) managed to almost destroy it. When he saw the demographic decline he abolished some of the sick measures imposed by the Jews before him getting all the power. Stalin WAS a criminal and a dictator, but in my opinion he set back the bolshevic revolution by 100 years. The Trotskists (Jews) killed him and moved to US and Western Europe after they lost the reigns of power in USSR. They're coming back for Russia now.
Here is a very interesting read about the sex in the Soviet Union.
http://mailstar.net/sex-soviet.html
Damn, that's been going on in the USA for years. Just look at the state of Oregon for the most recent example of what has become an authoritarian regime on even the local level. This couple who own a little mom & pop bakery and happen to be christian refused to make a wedding cake for some lesbos who were getting married. the lesbos bitched about it and some statist judge fined them $135k for the alleged emotional distress suffered by the lesbos. If that wasn't bad enough, they were issued a gag order to prevent them from talking about it. WTF America? What has happened to your country? Looks to the rest of the world as if the lunatics are running the asylum.
Dang me, but I would have just baked that cake and delivered it with a smile. Lesbos Deserve sweets, too!
I would have decorated it with frosting made cocks as a ribbon going around the cake.
Here you go you deviants, eat some dick
I'd just add a zero to the price.
And piss in the batter
I would have hidden a fold-out from Playgirl of some stud for them to find, haha.
That still doesn't beat the Missouri "judge" who lambasted the family for being racist when reporting an armed home invasion. For their "pain", the thugs were given parole. Welcome to the NWO
Just wait....someone, somewhere, is going to reach his boiling point and a bunch of queers are going to drop dead at a wedding reception after a tasty bite of chocolate wedding cake with rat poison frosting.
Or something far worse.
Why do you care what someone else does with their private life. If two guys or two women want to get married it has ZERO effect on your life. That should go both ways however. If you are a baker and you don't want to bake a cake that day for any given reason then that person looking to buy a cake should move on to the next baker who will undoubtedly sell you a cake.
I don't care what someone else does with their private life. I do care when they insist I 'celebrate' it.
They were customers. They wanted to buy something. Celebration was not mentioned. I should make you my bitch.
In your dreams, skip. I was speaking as an individual, not as their baker. I mentioned what I would do in that case above.
As an individual, employed by an S&P100 company, I was monthly bombarded by new banners, emails, and invites to 'celebrate' whatever horseshit PC campaign was in vogue that month.
I don't object to whatever anyone wants to do in their bedroom. I do object when my participation in the celebration of said actions is continually requested. Why can't these cocksuckers just go fuck each other in the ass and leave me out of it?
The right to refuse a contract is (should be) a fundamental.
Of course statist use it to coerce tax payment.
what happened is we are growing sick of your christiain bullshit. some faggot goes into a cave and fucks his "apostels" and you people think when they come down from their methcathinone orgy, he a fucking diety. then you forget the whole fucking enlightenment happened...
I went there in 1984 and was told to be careful what I took pictures of.... same shit. Wow, talk about taking freedom and flushing it down the shitter. Maybe they should host the olympics? That will surely help the local economy lol
My then soon-to-be-Wife and I spent a year in Espana (Nerja) in 1978-79. Post Franco. There were still many Soldiers around. You did not dare smoke the weed.
I was in Huesca a lot of the time and they were on edge over the ETA.
Ha, I was tring to take a photo of the Cortes in 1977 and the Civil Guard ran me off!
if you can read german please read this two "New Old" books of 1859.
http://www.verlag-anton-schmid.de/d_kisyn1_Die_Kirche_und_die_Synagoge_T...
http://www.verlag-anton-schmid.de/d_kisyn2_Die_Kirche_und_die_Synagoge_T...
It's for the children.
/s/
All people (sheep) want is to be safe - they will give up their freedom (wool) if the government (wolf) promises them they will be safe for the rest of their lives (until they are killed and eaten).
As an spaniard I can fairly say this is utterly false. This site is supposed to be about free market, fiscal responsability and sound capitalism. I can't believe how you guys keep thinking of Tsipras as a hero, or how Brussels is destroying democracy. First of all, it isn't. Secondly, democracy isn't such a big deal, for me it's majority's dictatorship. Democracy is NOT equal to freedom, and it'll never be. I prefer to be in a country with stable economics, prosperity and individual freedom that a bunch of stupid politicians ruling everything because people like to vote the guy who gives them the most for doing nothing. You know nothing about how the world works. You're just a bunch of socialists and left-wing liberals. Yeah, keep thinking like that, this post is tailored specially for you.
Somehow I find it hard to believe that someone Spanish would use the term "left-wing liberal".
Even so, how is that stability working out?
It's true that in Spain most people are left-wing liberals (but not all of us). And yeah, we've our own problems, but still our economic situation has vastly improved since 2011, when the socialist government that ruled my country devastated it, so yeah, the stability is working out pretty well.
However this year we'll have elections, so I'm sure every effort we made to heal our damaged economy will probabbly vanish as Podemos starts giving money out for free (a.k.a. "universal payroll") with a money we don't have.
If you look like your avatar you should be a mail order bride and get the hell outta there.
Not intended as an insult, just a way out.
HOLY SHIT! Look at the language between "her" two posts!!! My friend, you just found a bought-and-paid-for troll(s) commenting on ZH!
So who's behind that persona?
Fucking awesome job, Dude!
NO shit, and what economic prosperity is he/she talking about in Spain. I heard on ZH they were as f*cked as Greece and Italy. Maybe the PTB in spain are preparing for more shit to hit the fan and trying to preempt it. Rember a few years ago Spain out lawed masks at public gatherings.
If you are in fact a Spaniard, then we can infer that you are a serf and a poltroon - what regard then for pathetic squealings?
If you think I'm ser and poltroon just because I'm from Spain then you really know nothing about my country. I don't really mind, but, please, insted of being a moron just ignore my comments. That way I won't be loosing my time reading your stupid posts.
So you're ok with living in a police state? Cuz if this shit goes unopposed, that's what you'll get in 10-15 years. Somehow, I think you won't like it very much, but then, you may be a masochist.
socialists are responsible for this. that's the point he's trying to make. and further, socialists voting for someone else to pay for their shit it NOT democracy
You got it! I don't like police states, but really, socialists are pretty worse than neocons in that way. At least neocons are honest with their intentions.
Agree completely. Most people vote for the guy who promises them the most good stuff. Most people don't care if they can afford it or not or even where the money comes from. They don't see it as costing them anything. Well the folks in Greece are learning that lesson right now.
They however are not the only ones who should be paying the tab. In every loan there are two parties obviously. The borrower and the lender. The lender should be doing a lot of due diligence to ensure that the borrower can pay back the loan. In Greece's case obviously Douchebank and the other thieves did not do their due diligence. Or they mistakenly thought that Germany would be good for it. Either way they too should be feeling some pain because they created cash out of thin air and gave it to a bunch of thieves running Greece at the time. (Democatically elected or not) So no Douchebank should be felling the pain but they have paid for their politicians (elected or not) and are getting the full support of the Good Germans.
So Tsipras is no hero bot neither is anyone else. There is plenty of blame to go around. Most of it however can fall on the asshats that set the whole Euro system up.
All politicians work for FIAT, not the people. You must understand this. The people are nothing to the printing press until they stop using it. Thats the key. Declare it odious and rebuild a sound currency with spanish silver leaving them with bankrupt casino chips.
RIPS
"At least neocons are honest with their intentions."
Uh, what? Neocons are fucking liars too.
I see you. Troll. "Anita." And I see what you are doing-- "Socialists" vs. "Neocons"? Get real.
You are fucking pathetic.
I've read J.Hayakawa's "Language and Thought in Action," just like half of the readers on this site. He was probably one of the last good and real conservatives in this country-- like Ike, and unlike you-- NWO, fasciest ass.
You(s) are my enemy. Let's have it on, you bunch of bitches.
(She'sthey are, playing the "lesser-evils" card: "you can get horsewhipped or beaten"-type of stuff)
Democracy is not a dictatorship you fool. Its democracy. Do you deny the facts of this article?
When someone has the right to decide over my own personal, individual rights, that's what a dictatorship is for me. And don't be confused, that can happen in a democracy (actually it does everyday). I'd rather have a limited democracy a là Singaporean instead of Spain's democracy.
If you like liberty, than the Singaporean system is not for you.
I don't know where you get the idea that the majority of the folks here think Tsipras is a hero. V-fak, maybe, but not Tsipras. Tsipras is a sellout (either by choice or force)
BUY STAWKS NOW!
THEY NEVER GO DOWN EVER!
I TOLD YOU SO!
This is communism. Now, France and Italy, will do the same.
You damn idiots who vote for these governments. YOU DAMN IDIOTS!
Its not enough to give money away to thieves like the Greeks, but now YOU SUPPORT PEOPLE THAT STEAL OUR SPIRITS AND FREEDOM OF WILL.
How can you people support Greece, France, Italy and Spain; these are communist regimes.
YOU CAN NOT SOCIALLY ENGINEER BEHAVIOUR! This is tyranny, this is out right psychological enslavement.
Welcome to the Sovient Socialist's Republic of Spain....Lenin is jumping with joy in his grave.
You idiotic people who support communism/socialism/liberalism. You idiotic selfish greedy lazy people.
To the Spanish Government: The Spanish Royal Family are crooks, the Spanish Government are tyrants, and to hell with your laws!
Where is the EU Hate Laws now? These laws constitue a hate crime. These laws fly in the face of people's right to protest.
Where Are the EU Laws to protect our rights?
Europe is not dying...its being murdered by communist tyrants.
GO TO HELL SPAIN!!!
Respectfully disagree. The most accurate term would be CORPORATE FASCISM... led by the banking sector (specifically the central banks) but closely followed lock-step by multi-national corporations. It is an abuse of corporate power and greed, plain and simple. It's a system that rewards the corporate executives and enslaves the masses. Corporations hire their own government officials, write their own legislation, and care nothing for the rights of the people. They care nothing for long term sustainability - only the profits for the next quarter (and their bonus). It is an unsustainable model that WILL result in MASSIVE social unrest.
Why the majority of people do not realize this is completely beyond me.
Many people who notice the trappings of totalitarianism or tyranny
reflexively label it "socialism" or "communism", regardless of its backers.
Big business and others have advertised and promoted that belief as a convenient
distraction away from noticing the totalitarianism that can arise with corporate roots and
corporate shills.
Any attempt to critique or rein in corporate power can then be falsely equated
and implicitly branded negatively as
"totalitarian" by the evocative labeling of such attempts as "communism".
It is amusing how people think there are differences between facism, communism, socialism, crony capitalism, totalitarianism, corporate power, etc. It does not matter if central control comes through corporations, a dictator, or socialist elected leader. The end result for the people is always the same: loss of freedom, loss of choices, loss of opportunities. ]
The only thing to protect individual freedom is limited government ruled by a constitutional republic.
"It's a republic, if you can keep it"
I think corporatism (that's the right term) is just another way of socialism, of soft-communism. The government keeps controlling the economy and have strong links with the lobbies, manipulating the population to convince them that giving money to big companies is the right thing to do.
What's going on in the US, Europe and Japan, with the FED giving money to banks? And in China, giving money to funds to prop up its stock market? And which governments are in favour of that? Here in Europe, the biggest supporters of QE are socialists, that see it as a way to extend their control over the economy and get fresh money from these companies to sustain their own expenses paid with public money.
It's called "inverted totalitarianism":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism
How do you say "Seig Heil" en espanol?
Repectfully disagree, with your disagreement. Corporate Fascism, is when the State protects companies through legalizing monopoly laws, and stopping descent by the people against companies. What you are witnessing now in Spain, are laws that stop the people or are trying to control the people's behaviour AGAINST THE STATE....that is communism/socialism tyranny, something Marx and Engels would call Marxist doctrine. Spain as it appears doesn't like people showing how corrupt the State or the Royal Family are. This is State Tyranny.
Let's get a few things straight:
Communism: This is when the government (ie. The State) decides to take up everybody's possessions, that is anything of value, INCLUDING CHILDREN AND WIVES, and divvy up the whole enchalata to every one. If you read the Commuist Manifesto by Karl Marx, Communists believe that nobody should be allowed to own anything or any capital, including, property, homes, all material wealth, and children. The State will decide what work you do, who you should marry, how your children will be raised and what they should learn, where you should live, how you should live, what you can do and when you should do it. That is communism. Here in Italy we have about 20% of the population that are communists, remarkable how they think, they live like savages. Karl Marx, believed in helping the Proletariat. The problem today is, that in universities around the world, they lie about communism, they don't teach the truth. So for example, people think of that phrase, "Workers of the World Unite." WRONG! It is Proletariats of the World Unite. So what is a Proletariat? Somebody who has nothing but his manual labour skills to offer, a Proletariat has no capital, no money, no home, no car, nothing not even including a family, we are talking of the down and outs of the world, the homeless, the hungry, the beggars. Communists today ARE IDIOTS, they want to bring the world this! George Orwell understood this well with his book, "1984."
Socialism: this is when the State wants to take those who have more to give to those who have less. But we have a serious problem here. If you take $1 from somebody that has worked every hard to earn that $1, the utility value of that $1 is higher than when you give $1 to somebody who has done nothing to earn it. That is where universities and socialists don't understand. They, the socialists, value everybody the same utility value, when it isn't the case. Some people provide more than others. Take Greece for example, the unit utility value of an average Greek is 1/2 the value of a German, why? Because Greeks are lazy, unproductive people. They don't work. Yes yes, you hear it all the time, that Greeks work more hours than anybody else. But during those hours of work they do much less. It is better to pay a German for 1 hour of work than to have a Greek for 2 hours of work! So that is why Greeks really hate Germans, the Germans make Greeks feel inferior. Who's fault is that? Germans? NO THE GREEKS THEMSELVES ARE TO BLAME! It is this imbalance with Socialism that is causing problems in France, Italy, Spain, and Greece. Hard work is not valued in these countries, it is punished with punitive taxes.
Marxism: Call Communism the idea, that Marx and Engels desired. Marxism is the plan, the theory the plan of how to get to Communism. You read Marx and Engels, you will see how sick-minded these two creatures were, and what they wanted. You know I sometimes wonder, why universities don't teach things like the philosophies of Pol-Pot, Hitler, Stalin, or Kim Jong II. They teach about them the person, not their philosophies, and believe me they do have philosophies, yet they teach the philosophies of Marx and Engels, and paint them up as humanitarians. These people were monsters of tyranny, they were not better than Hitler or Kim Jong II. It is very sick how professors and universities DISTORT the language of communism and marism. VERY VERY SICK.
Facism: This is where The State, protects companies, especially "The Chosen" companies. Like the USA. The United States protects its big corporations like perfect Fascist. Just imagine if you tried to take down JP Morgan, or any of their Military Contractors. You think the Nazis were bad!
Nazism: As Marxism is to Communism: Nazism is to Facism. It is the strategical/theoretical plan to bring Fascism.
In short, Communism/Socialism and Facism are ideologies, the former is the ideology of the State controlling directly the masses and the later where the State uses Companies to indirectly control the masses. Marxism and Nazism, are the strategic plans for the State propagate Communism/Socialism and Facism, respectfully.
So where are we today? We have a new breed of politics that hasn't been seen in some 2,000 years. We have Governments all around the world, the USA, Britain, most of Europe, Australia, Canada, many Asian countries, now bringing in more and more socialism. As this rise in socialism increases, people lose incentive. In places like France, Spain, Italy and Greece, socialism is now more than 50% of the State economy, that means they are now more Communist than just Socialist. Furthermore, the State is protecting the chosen companies to do their dirty work, which is Fascism. So what do we have with this blend of Communism and Fascism? It is what was in Europe 2,000 years ago during the Roman Empire, run by Patricians, we have a Patriocracy, the symbiotic fusion of communism and fascism, the two most evil of forces merging into one nightmarish monster.
Democracy, Freedom, Liberty and Merit, are dying in our world. And this must stop. STOP PATRIOCRACY!
What do I believe in? I do not believe the State should control the masses at all. I believe, We The People, should be in control of our destines, and that through good government we choose our representatives that will enforce The Will Of The People. Our parliamentary and government structures are designed today to protect the Patricians and this must end. I have not one single form of ideology, but the closest thing is Classical Libertarianism, something that is all but dead; where Democracy, Freedom, Liberty and Merit are central tenants to society. I do believe we must have some social support, but it must be minimal, people must not be rewarded for poor lifestyle decisions. I do not believe either that people should have it so easy to make large fortunes by doing nothing other than gambling on the stock market, or have outrageous salaries without the relative level of responsibility and accountability. You can get rich, but you have to have earned it. No billionaire on the planet today has earned their wealth, it is all gotten illegally, thanks to the corrupt financial systems and the governments that support them, largely the USA and Britain.
Thanks for the well-thought-out -- albeit long -- discussion. I'd say you nailed it.
It will interesting to see which country rises up, first.
France
Fuck this world already
Hey Spain, I was planning a vacation visit but now you can go fuck yourselves.
I hope the people of Basque and Catalonia break away from your shitty country.
Unfortunately, those running the "show" wont allow it. Things will have to get really bad and there will have to be blood in the streets before they will give up their control.
This demonstrates how absolutely scared the Rajoy royalist pigs have become. PODEMOS is on track to take back Spain in the very near future. These NAZI laws show how fragile the entire Uruppean fascist cabal have become after the Greek fun.
They might as well dig up that sack of shit Franco and sit his miserable rotten ass in parliament for all the effect this bluster will have on the unwashed disenfranchised youth of post industrial Spain who by the way would not even be able to cobble one of these pig spitting fines together from the pittance they are expected to survive on.
We have arrived at the same state of affairs in USA. For the most part, the Constitution has been indefinitely suspended by executive order rather than by laws passed by Congress.
The typical anti-communist dogma is simply the worst things capitalists do but attributed to communists.
Back to Franco era, which is not surprising as Rajoy is in fact of the Franco school. Shame, such a great country and people, I hope they protest violently against this until its reversed.
Spain had a fascist ("Falangist") dictatorship which began with a putsch by its top generals in 1936 and a terrible civil war, with direct German and Italian intervention and with Britain, France and the US helping strangle the elected Republican government with an arms embargo.
That Falangist government was never removed. Portugal overthrew its fascist dictatorship with a popular revolution in the 1970's, but the people of Spain never did. The monarchy, the police and general staff, the basic security laws, extend in an unbroken chain back to Franco's government of 1938.
Yes, they have liberalized, but as having been there pre- and post-Franco, Authoritarianism is still big.
But, if the Spanish are pushed too hard, you get another Civil War, and they fight nasty!
The ideal is a republic with a bill of rights. The reality is an oligarchy.
Nullification is what you call it when you simply ignore them.
Fine? Not fine! Ignore it!
The secret at the heart of the state is that they can't really force all of your compliance. If more than a tiny percentage simply reject their authority, there's nothing they can do about it.
Government use of force is about temporal mass. They mass strength in the time and place of their choosing, to be strong THERE.
It is simply impossible for them to even pretend to enforce their desires otherwise...because lacking the compliance of average people THEY CAN'T.
What is not intuitively obvious to the uninitiated is that when they MASS STRENGTH HERE, they MASS WEAKNESS THERE.
And that is why even a small percentage of the population can always overthrow the overlords. Give them something to mass against... and then send your strength elsewhere. It really is that simple.
The overlords cannot be strong everywhere, while the popular can be.
We, stupid Europeans, do not deserve better.
We have to kill such elected-unelected politicians. On the spot.
If the spanish people had guns it would be a different story.
They have some and can get more if needed to. The spaniards are disorganized and rebellious by heart.
Well at least we are still free here in Murica. Here's proof:
With a zero down and 96 low, low payments....
Or you can just quit... No need to look for another..
And if you hate Obama care, you can keep your Obamacare.
Well we didn't expect a Spanish Inquisition???????
NOOOOOOOOOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Wholly smokes. When do we see the typical dictatorial military marches in front of the Spanish Capitol? If they don't have them yet, they need to get them organized. Every 20th century dictatorship had them.
"How does this differ in any what from the justification of imposing communism?"
In Spain, that would be Franquist fascism, not communism.
ZeroHedge will soon be on Spain's terrorism website list, so if you are spanish and you are here then you are fucked.
I hope they start killing any and all civil servants ,, and their kids..
butcher them , slaughter them,, kill them in their beds and throw the babies ot of the upper floor windows. Set fire to their houses in the middle of the night,
Don't go on the streets, but keep it up relentlessly, in every city every night, hundreds of them, overwhelm all police and put utter stark terror and a complete and total breakdown of the govt will come in days as every civil servant flees like a fucking sand pig in the desert running from carpet bombing.
Is saying that in any seditious
"Is saying that in any (way) seditious" Parenthesis mine.
Only if you forget to use a /sarc tag.
If you wipe out all the parasites in the parasitic class... freedom! If you can keep it...
I've said for a very long time that anybody working for the evil state is a legitimate target for retribution.
"I Was Just Doing My Job" and "I Was Only Following Orders" are not acceptable defences.
When government fears the people, there can be liberty.
When government turns tail and runs away, there is liberty.
Can I still instagram my tapas?
democracy is mob rule. That's why the usa was born a republic.
"A republic, ma'am, if you can keep it." ~ Benjamin Franklin
The Spanish thought the EU was an escape from the past. Appears to be the contrary but doughnuts to dollars the Spaniards would vote to join the EU tomorrow preferring the cabal in Brussels than Madrid.
Who are they kidding, they were never free. The mask comes off and everyone is surprised. Well, thank God America is still strong and free of such oppression! The sheep here would never tolerate such tyranny.
/sarc
Short term revenue enhancement, at least until opposition is eliminated.
See, anyone with half a brain could see a few years back that many would be labelled as 'terrorists' when we though they all wore rags on their heads and carried 15 year old AK47s.
This world isn't big enough now to escape the madness and future tyranny. At least Americans have the right to bear arms, great thinkers those Forefathers.
They deserve nothing better. The utter fools.
The new laws drafted by Goldman Sachs stooges no doubt.
Franco's ghost has been seen lately in Madrid.
"So this is how Liberty dies...with thunderous applause." Padme Amidala
Has anyone actually thought to physically check the Valle de los Caidos?
Shave the King of Spain!
Franco has been disinterred.
Germany will soon be bombing Spain in his support, especially if anybody there complains about unsustainable EZ debt levels.
Franco is still dead. Podemos is a communist party funded by Venezuela. Just saying. After Podemos comes Pinochet.
Fuck the king of Spain! There, I said it.
What's his Juanita Carlose or sumptin?
Although Franco died in 1975, Fascism is still very much alive and well in Spain. Franco was supported by Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy, the Spanish Catholic Church and wealthy members of Spanish society. Fascism comes to fore when wealth distribution is threatened. The primary function of the State (government, military, police) becomes one of protecting the assets of the wealthiest members of society and repressing those who demand a more equitable distribution of wealth. Expect Fascism to reemerge in Greece following Tsipras’s complete capitulation to the demands of Brussels. (see: www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-13/after-deal-heres-whats-next-greece; wwww.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11735609/Greece-news-live-Crucifie...)
they weren't lying. the tttttuuuuurrrrriiiiissssstttttsssss really do hate us because of our freedoms.