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How The Greek Deal Almost Collapsed At 6am In The Morning
What began at Saturday's Eurogroup meeting as a contentious exchange between EU finance ministers (who experessed their extreme consternation at the projected size of a Greek ESM package which was suddenly 43% larger than the figure from the Greek proposal thanks to a €25 billion provision for bank recapitalization) nearly ended in a Grexit, both figuratively and literally when, at 6am Monday morning Brussels time, Greek PM Alexis Tsipras headed for the door after discussions with Angela Merkel hit what both leaders deemed to be an intractable stalemate.
Or so the story goes.
For those who enjoy a good narrative, here are the details via FT:
The closest Greece has come to leaving the eurozone was at around 6am on Monday morning, just as dawn was breaking over Brussels.
Alexis Tsipras of Greece and Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, decided after 14 hours of anguished talks that they had reached a dead end. With no room for compromise, neither saw any reason to carry on. Grexit was the only realistic option.
As the two leaders made for the door it was Donald Tusk, the president of the European Council, who moved to prevent the fatigue and frustration from triggering a historic rupture for the eurozone.
“Sorry, but there is no way you are leaving this room,” the former Polish prime minister said.
The sticking point was the size and purpose of a privatisation fund to be backed by sequestered Greek assets. Ms Merkel wanted the €50bn of sales to be devoted to debt repayments; Mr Tsipras saw that as a national humiliation that would cede control of assets worth almost a third of Greek national income. His alternative was a smaller fund, whose proceeds would be reinvested in Greece.
A compromise was ultimately found after more than an hour discussing nearly a dozen different structures. It was to be the coda to a weekend that featured one of the most exhausting and fraught negotiations in a seemingly interminable crisis that has provided the EU’s sternest test.
Yes, a "compromise" was found, and one which has undoubtedly left the majority of Greeks wishing Tsipras had ignored Tusk and simply announced to the world that the drachma was about to make its not-so-triumphant return to the global FX markets because by sticking around, the PM who came to Brussels with a clear mandate to lead his country out of the euro "with his head held high" (to quote Nigel Farage) left without €50 billion in airports, planes, and infrastructure and more importantly, without the collective pride of the Greek people.
Thanks Donald Tusk.
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How much skin does Pan Tuski have in the game?
Enter the Golden Dawn.
So, zee kraut elite (bad cop) and zee filthy treasonous polock elite (good cop) working together to subjugate common Europeans under the Fatherland, again?
The Fourth Reich will indeed be glorious...for some...not so much for others.
Don't worry, the Polish collaborator's time will come, again.
Until then, Heil Merkel!
The German on the left looks like George Bush.
The one hiding in the back looks like Soros.
This is the relevant portion of the transcript (from the 20 December 1998 broadcast of 60 Minutes):
Quote:KROFT: (Voiceover) To understand the complexities and contradictions in his personality, you have to go back to the very beginning: to Budapest, where George Soros was born 68 years ago to parents who were wealthy, well-educated and Jewish.
When the Nazis occupied Budapest in 1944, George Soros' father was a successful lawyer. He lived on an island in the Danube and liked to commute to work in a rowboat. But knowing there were problems ahead for the Jews, he decided to split his family up. He bought them forged papers and he bribed a government official to take 14-year-old George Soros in and swear that he was his Christian godson. But survival carried a heavy price tag. While hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews were being shipped off to the death camps, George Soros accompanied his phony godfather on his appointed rounds, confiscating property from the Jews.
(Vintage footage of Jews walking in line; man dragging little boy in line)
KROFT: (Voiceover) These are pictures from 1944 of what happened to George Soros' friends and neighbors.
(Vintage footage of women and men with bags over their shoulders walking; crowd by a train)
KROFT: (Voiceover) You're a Hungarian Jew...
Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Mm-hmm.
KROFT: (Voiceover) ...who escaped the Holocaust...
(Vintage footage of women walking by train)
Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Mm-hmm.
(Vintage footage of people getting on train)
KROFT: (Voiceover) ... by -- by posing as a Christian.
Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Right.
(Vintage footage of women helping each other get on train; train door closing with people in boxcar)
KROFT: (Voiceover) And you watched lots of people get shipped off to the death camps.
Mr. SOROS: Right. I was 14 years old. And I would say that that's when my character was made.
KROFT: In what way?
Mr. SOROS: That one should think ahead. One should understand and -- and anticipate events and when -- when one is threatened. It was a tremendous threat of evil. I mean, it was a -- a very personal experience of evil.
KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.
Mr. SOROS: Yes. Yes.
KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.
Mr. SOROS: Yes. That's right. Yes.
KROFT: I mean, that's -- that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?
Mr. SOROS: Not -- not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don't -- you don't see the connection. But it was -- it created no -- no problem at all.
KROFT: No feeling of guilt?
Mr. SOROS: No.
KROFT: For example that, 'I'm Jewish and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be there. I should be there.' None of that?
Mr. SOROS: Well, of course I c -- I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn't be there, because that was -- well, actually, in a funny way, it's just like in markets -- that if I weren't there -- of course, I wasn't doing it, but somebody else would -- would -- would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the -- whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the -- I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.
https://bsimmons.wordpress.com/2006/11/04/george-soros-interview-on-60-m...
In places similar to the Warsaw Ghetto or concentration camps there will always be opressors recruited from the locals. In every nation. Every one.
Who did you expect to be there? The Peruvians?
I usually like reading your posts.
Not this time. Fuck you, HH.
He probably thinks the Cheka/NKVD recruited stool pigeons from Mongolia and the (Russian) Far East.
I am sure Mr. Tusk appreciates your fine efforts on his behalf, here, and hopefully he will make note of this support in your Agencja Wywiadu file.
I am totally on the same page as BearTrap in this case, HH. Your original post and this reaction of yours to his comment are plain tasteless. Not something I'd expect from a guy like you. Pity.
You're probably right. I should just forget about the mandate from the Greek vote from last weekend. Mr. Tsipras sure has.
Resistance is futile. I will be assimilated. What truly matters is that bank shareholders and sovereign debt holders never take a loss.
Forgive me, and please make note of this change in heart in my NSA file. I do love Big Brother!
Too easy, HH. Of course Tsipras has been put under tremendous pressure - by the Germans, yes, ánd by other EU member states, as well as your own proud US of A. Not the nicest episode indeed, I'll grant you that. But this gratuitous, almost pavlovian habit of dragging in the nazis and the whole collaboration meme - in this case personified by Donald Tusk -is not one, but a couple of bridges too far IMO.
There is a world of difference between this German government and the 1933-1945 nazi regime.
If you really want to worry about fascism, you should worry more about the Islamic State, some extreme orthodox jewish movements, the NSA or Golden Dawn, not about present-day Germany.
Understood.
HHorseman,
I am as dismayed at these responses as you must be. Perhaps you were always a little less "fight club" and that appeals to some folks. My take is that its been 82 years since Hitler assumed the Chancellorship, thats four generations time of gentle amnesia to set in, or a complete "turning". It seems that so many people around the world, even the Germans (but not the Russians) are at best only distantly aware of the first half of the 20th century. They've all become way to fat, dumb, and happy. We may be in for one hell of a ride as a consequence. Stay prepared.
We miss your foodie comments. Please don't stray to far.
I do not think that Hitler is that easily forgotten, but the thing is to know where to look for his legacy in today's world. In present-day Germany? Or elsewhere? What was it Mark Twain said about history repeating itself?
Elsewhere - forms of fascism have taken root in most Western Nations as evidenced in the World today, in affect taking up a torch of the old adage, "History goes to the victors" in order to get away with whatever comes next. Mainly the Italian-kind as introduced by Mussolini, that is to say Corporatism and the Destruction of Sovereignty. Early evidence of this was the C.I.A. quickly recruiting actual Nazi's, the U.S.'s blood-lust for more war, illegal overthrows, assassinations, the whole gamut ever since that time with loss of life now at a staggering combined total 20-30 million people dead from various countries... and the U.S. goes unpunished. No Nuremburg Trials 2.0 in sight.
The immense and total apathy and unawareness of these figures are evident today in the American public; having been fully subjected to decades of propaganda. Exceptionalism. Nationalism. These are the beliefs held so dear today by those whom are unawares. The oft repeated saying that "those whom forget the past are doomed to repeat it" - so sure in themselves that they'll never become like that without even realizing they have.
George Orwell also predicted that Fascism would take hold following WW2, "The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history."
In why he wrote 1984, he penned, "You ask whether totalitarianism, leader-worship etc. are really on the up-grade and instance the fact that they are not apparently growing in this country and the USA. I must say I believe, or fear, that taking the world as a whole these things are on the increase. Hitler, no doubt, will soon disappear, but only at the expense of strengthening (a) Stalin, (b) the Anglo-American millionaires and (c) all sorts of petty fuhrers° of the type of de Gaulle.
However, he was optimistic that Britain and the U.S. in particular wouldn't go Totalitarian as we have witnessed today with secret laws, loss of liberties, agencies operating against mandate on domestic soil, illegal spying, and treating their subjects as potential terrorists - "As to the comparative immunity of Britain and the USA. Whatever the pacifists etc. may say, we have not gone totalitarian yet and this is a very hopeful symptom. I believe very deeply, as I explained in my book The Lion and the Unicorn, in the English people and in their capacity to centralise their economy without destroying freedom in doing so. But one must remember that Britain and the USA haven’t been really tried, they haven’t known defeat or severe suffering, and there are some bad symptoms to balance the good ones."
"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." -- Herman Goering
There was nothing about Tusk in my post...
By the way, did you know Tusk was a candidate in 2005 presidential election in Poland? During this campaign his rival's staff accused Tusk's grandfather of being a Wehrmacht soldier. As it turned out, those were bogus accusations.
But who cares as long as it fits one's narrative. Right, HH?
Heil Trump!
hedgeless go fuck yourself. i have ancestors who were in warsaw.
you're anti-semitic bullshit continues unabated on these posts for years.
FUCK YOU . distorting 'polish collaborator' as prisoners who were forced to police others in the ghetoo and claiming they are the 'polish collaborators'.
seriously , you are a fucking jew hater to suggest this and DONT GIVE ME ANY FUCKING BULLSHIT ABOUT ZIONISTS AND BANKERS.
the warsaw uprising was well documented and what you wrote in your post above COULDN'T POSSIBLY BE MORE DISTORITING IN AN EFFORT TO PAINT JEWS AS 'POLISH COLLABORATORS' IN THE HEART OF THE GENOCIDE WHICH RESULTED IN THE BIGGGEST PART of european jewery being destroyed.
FUCK YOURSELF IN THE ASS.
I fail to see where, or how, my comments are anti-semantic, or hateful against Jews, in any way. Please illustrate.
they can't. One of gchq's minions maybe? O.o surely not on ZH..
Well you seemed to hit a nerve with some people HH...
I personally knew numbered people, the son of which was my best man. I'm not a jew. Never met one that I knew of until I was 19. I have tremendous respect for them and what they survived.
That said, I stand with Hedgeless Horseman, the stories I was told by surviving jews regarding the ghetto police, from those that were arrested, put in death camps and live to tell about it...there's nothing good to be told about the GP.
Those that argue against him are the same ones that will be the Quislings and GP for the American FEMA camps. You need to learn some real history, and look deep inside yourselves. You are the enemy of truth. And you are going to be the first to proclaim neighbors as 'terrorists'.
I live to shoot people like you.
uh , you intentionally characterize nazi collaborators as jewish kapos in the warsaw ghetto. no my chum, they were not the collaberators. they were just kapos. in prison waiting to be killed. they were victims.
the collaborators were the people who were free , more or less, to decide the fate of others. if you fail to see how characterizing kapos as collaborators and calling them 'poles' , when the majority of poles actively dissociated polish jewry of its polish identity as much as possible, then you are rewriting history.
please tell me again how you rewriting history of the slaughter of jews in poland was accomplished by 'jewish collaborators'. i have a pretty thick skin. i don't give a rats shit about the complete tirade of anti-semitism on zh all that much.
oh yes, blaming victims as the perpetrators participants or collaborators of criminal genocide isn't anti-semitic. yes yes, let us blame the niggers for the house slaves participating in slavery. all those niggers, their houseslaves were the ones who caused their problems, because hey they will get their due . those uncle toms caused the problems. yes, that's not racist just like blaming jew kapos in warsaw isn't anti-semitic.
but your bullshit doesn't fly. i've seen all your bantering on here like every other anti-semitic shmuck who thinks jews control the world and the anglo-zionist conpiracy is the root of everyone's problems. you stepped over the line with that last one.
and i am calling you out. i don't give a fuck who ro what on these boards upvotes or downvotes you. the truth isn't a majority opinion. it never will be.
"The Polish-Jewish historian and Warsaw Ghetto archivist Emanuel Ringelblum described the cruelty of the ghetto police as "at times greater than that of the Germans."
TB, are you saying this is INcorrect?
It must be true. I cannot believe that a Jewish historian would lie about the holocaust.
teslaberry,
what exactly does the ideology of Zionism and the indefatigable criminal banking industry have to do with the holocaust and world jewry. I fail to see the connection. Why is that necessarily anti-semitic? Just take the facts as they occur and you will understand history and the human condition better. You'll also have less dispepsia.
Maybe the Jews shouldn't have boycotted German goods. They started it.
Zydoschutzstaffel? Hardly a surprise. I've long researched the jewish presence within Nazi ranks. Some of them were the most hardcore of the hardcore.
And when it was advantageous for them in lands under Bolshevik control they simply became Zydokommuna. Ideology does not necessarily matter to them, only the money/power/control dynamic.
It is of course no myth, as it is commonly denounced. Nearly all communist apparatchiks, whether in Russia or in Poland, the Baltics or the Ukraine....were jews. Nearly every single one.
That they would sometimes sell out their own mothers is hardly surprising. How much less loyalty do you unawakened think they have for their host populations. The relationship is hardly symbiotic.
The Jews in Poland were not Poles.
Get your shit straight.
They were a separate ethnic group that migrated to Poland.
It all began in Africa 30000 years ago, monotheism began about 3000 year back and took off in Europe in 330 AD
Nation states can be traced to invention by American revolutionaries in 1770s and took off after 1789
Judaism is not an ethnic group, its a religion, especially Eastern European Jews who were assimilated through intermarriage to look European instead of middle eastern like the Palestinian peoples which are the Jews which stayed behind and converted to Islam
He owes his skin to Putin for tipping him off not to get on the plane that most of Poland's senior government was on when Putin crashed it.
I'm surprised ZH is saying anything negative about Putin's crony.
There was no money to print drachma currency.
So they kept the euro.
Instead, the Greek gov't spent 40 million on a referendum vote that meant absolutely nothing. Shame, shame, shame (rings bell 3 times). I think Tsipras needs to do the Cersei "shame" walk.
I always wondered what happened to Corky from Life Goes On.
+1000
Downing Street Syndrome is even more pernicious.
It's not a done deal, look at the 10 year.........
Donald Tusk...about as important to the outcome of the match as a Ref at the WWE.
<---a well-scripted farce
<---a sad pathetic reality
they can ALL claim a Pyrrhic victory and/or a Pyrrhic defeat -bottom line: pretend and extend, maybe
"Do you believe in miricles??? YES!!!!"
sounds like tusk is the european version of hank paulson
& from my point of view, the greek deal collapsed when "the deal" was announced
Life is so much easier after castration, just ask any steer.....
This guy had a chance to be everyone's hero by telling the Troika to stick it up their ass...and folded like a lawn chair, alledgedly. Crying shame
Do we need more stories about how Greeks were sold into slavery? It's done and sealed.
Thanks, Tsipras.
It's not over yet. Act II will be very painfull to all, but at this point Greece has not much more to lose, if they back out.
I see a bigger geopolitical play ahead (and after all that happened) Greece could not be blamed.
The bottom line however, is that the world will not escape DEEP-ression. She will blow soon.
Varoufakis, I miss you!
Wasnt he the crook from House of Cards?
It is a shame that money created out of thin air at ZERO COST and ZERO sacrifice can lay claim to valuable assets created from value adding labor.
This is the travesty of our age... the ultimate in deception and parasitism.
Amen brother.
Guess what? "They left the room anyways."
The whole thing is stupid....as the Chinese would say "The Man Who Would Move Mountains."
bingo...........
By far the best post of the day. I wish I could up vote you more.
Get some balls, Tsipras, and tell them to fuck off along the lines that blowhard Denninger recommends: https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=230325
And don't forget to send a formal notice here: http://www2.isda.org/about-isda/contact-us/
Denninger for President!
I thought this guy was an uber troll against the EU? Or am I mixing up poles? what the fuck is even going on anymore
A Polish guy said that Tusk is a globalist lackey.
The good Pole leader died in the plane "crash" in Russia.
Sounds like the arguement I had right before my wife and I filed for divorce. Exhaustion will make you say whatever you need to say to make it stop. I would bet this ends in a similar fashion.
Tsk tsk tsk
The next Greek PM will be elected on a platform to nationalize these assets. This is going to end ugly. A catastrophe is on the horizon and all in the name of the Euro.
I was thinking something similar..or maybe a real Military Coup by pissed off Greek army to take back their assets ( do they even have an army? )
This deal is not DONE..it has about 200 hurdles in a 100 yard dash to go.....every day is a new headline...but we are a long way for the EU sending billions to Greece I think..a long way
That means 200 more opportunities for the 'markets' to spike on 'Greece is solved' rumors.
Greece has to take some actions before they will see one euro of that so-called bail-out. And as you say, the deal is still not done - the Eurogroup only agreed to agree on further negotiations.
Greece can keep reaching for the prize but it will never happen. "Jump! Jump a little higher! Awww, how cute, look how much they tried that time. They are so funny when they jump like that. Here ya go! Jump! Hahahaha, look at that. Whoops!"
The face of the man who put the last nail in the coffin of democracy. I hope he has nightmares for the rest of his life for what he has done
"Financial 'crisis' in Greece"
Mr Panos..."Greece is saving the rest of the world" from Germany..."again"...
"your welcome"
This guy is pretty funny and this scetch was posted over 3 years ago...hmmmm?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvl9N9GdraQ
Not gonna lie, that guy looks pretty evil.
Actually, he thought there was literally no way for them to leave the room. These elites don't know how to open their own doors and as my Polish family liked to joke, "how many Polock's does it take to turn a doorknob? 3! One guy to hold the knob and two to turn their body around in circles." Being the only Pol in the room the guy had no idea what to do ;-)
Pure sociopathology. Crawling insanity -- with a smile.
You should hear him rant about Putin and Ukraine. Makes you think he wants to whole of Europe to start a war with Russia to 'save' Ukraine and turn the continent into toast. Perhaps he threatened the same scenario for Greece.
"You can stay in the room and work out a deal, or you can go check out the view from the roof with the men in the corner. Your choice"
So, what fantasy land are we living in? Does anyone rational, who has stopped toking on the pipe of Euro-planners really believe this deal will work? Does anyone believe Greece will succeed and actually 1. Stop running up more debt. 2. Pay down curernt debt. 3. Reduce the actual size and outlays of government to make these things work?
I heard the term, "Extend and pretend" and it fits perfectly. Europe extends the new deadlines and support while everyone pretends it has a snowball's chance in hell of succeeding.
Someone bring back rational thinking based on reality. Work on a structured Greek default and quit wasting time and creating an ever larger market bubble to burst.
All you said is true, however I dont see why EU should be a central focus of it. Extend & pretend is how most of the world operate today. China, US, Japan,...
It is risky to ignore reality, but you are right. We all pretend. We pretend we have the discipline and self sacrifice to pay enough to make the collectivist state work. We pretend lots of others from welfare and disability recipients to corporate farmers will not game the system for their own interest. We pretend the central planners actually know what they are doing and can do what they promise.
Too much pretending for me.
Yeah, ink a deal that Greeece will renage on before it is even dry.
WHAT A FARCE.
Because paying back criminals money printers is the only honorable thing to do. ughhhh
None of this money "loaned" to Greece was ever based on anything real...you know that right? The technocrats who agreed to the deals, they were stooges from Goldman Sachs...you know that too eh? And the ECB (GS henchmen) wanted Greece in so bad they helped cook the books...so why would that be I wonder? Maybe to bankrupt them while enriching themselves throughout the process and beta testing a model for enslaving all regular peoples of Europe in debt slavery!
But I'm sure all the "lenders" (note, not lending their own money...some of stoog "taxpayer" of the future) motives were entirely pure the entire time huh?
Your assumptions are the farce.
We Tusked some folks.
Tsipras should have decked him for it. Maybe the guy is really tall.
Varoufakis would have floored him.
varouflaksis is on the run since referendum
Here is what happened:
http://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2015/07/13/varoufakis-reveals-his-secre...
Now the bullshit "story behind the story" tangents... Greece is broke... let the asset stripping begin. The memes for the next 2-3 years will be privitization of gov't services and assets. The cannot pay down the debt while servicing it - in fact they may not be able to cover the interest payments... first the income statement and then the balance sheet. The bankers are moving to evicerate the balance sheet. Grease is a debt serf to the rest of EU. The situation has only gotten worse with each adjustment and extension of credit.
Tsipras is a biotch. He sold out the whole of Greece. And what? Tusk threatened to paper cut him to death?
The Gran Moff Tarkin?
Tusk is a statesman of the same caliber as Kerry, Obama, and Nuland. They are all jokes.
That's what you get when 13% of the country works in agriculture and is allowed to vote. You get scared old ladies and pliable rednecks voting these people in.
Tsipras should have left the room 6 months ago
Exposed!!! How The Great Red Dragon really operates. "You're not leaving this room." (Until you've sold out all of your fellow countrymen.)
Tsipras still did not have to give in. If he was a real man, he'd have punched Tusk in the cocksucker
All indications point to something bigger in the region of Greece that the 'cabal' is after.
It is not the money or the infrastructure they are after.
Something very big, perhaps under, or even above the region.
There could be some kind of 'anomaly' in the area of Greece the 'cabal' seeks.
What ever 'it' is the 'cabal' is after, they want 'it' badly, and 'it' is not money.
They are after the fabled Vorpal Vortex of Shamalamadingdong! All seriousness aside, there is a lot of interest in Greece for natural gas/oil pipelines...
You better believe if the Greeks do not default and become an occupied vassal state that Brussels will put the kabosh on the Russian/Turk gasline. Or else they requisition it as part of their vassalage.
Ok..so here we go again..none of the political leaders or finance ministers could put a package together over several years to solve Greece's debt problem...so Tsipras and Merkel get into a room for 12 hours and hammer out a solution... yep..I think they got it right this time...so Greece is going to get up tomorrow and put their nose to the grind...and by goolly they are going to make this thing happen...as a proud nation they stand united...their new motto is going to be "leave no deadbeat nation behind".
"Who was the STASI agent codename "Oscar" who worked against the Solidarity Trade Union in Gdansk for the East-German communist intelligence services?"
Alright, I will bite.... How the Fuck did you know about that?
http://www.smolenskcrashnews.com/Meteoric-Rise-of-Donald-Tusk.html
SO Putins man physically kept Tspisspot in the room to endure hours more humiliation on behalf of the Greek peoples before finally capitulating?
Why on earth would Putin do such a thing, Checkmate from the Master?
Anybody here know how much that b.s. referendum cost the greek govt to hold? Im betting it is damn close to that imf payment that is due. The corpse that was greece is starting to get gamey....
Please, please, puhleeeeze (as my wonderful neighbor and aristocratic German countess [born 1930] ) never fails to remind me when I get worked up. . . "don't be too German now, its a disease".
John Clese?
he saved the day?
funny
as the first poster to this thread stated " how much skin does Donald Tust have in the game"
My Guess is, the markets will rally and then reality will settle in.
Tsipras may resign instead of agreeing such a odious deal or he may conjure a failed parliamentary vote.
I can't see how Greeks will accept this deal. Then again there are many Greeks getting assitance in the form of a government pension.
Its a mess and no one can fix it. Eventually the house of cards will collapse. One thing though, TPTB wish to delay this meltdown. I wonder why, for how long or better yet when are they willing to let Greece go.
Is there some kind of plan to allow this Global reset that protects the money changers?
"We have armed guards in the outer hall with 'shoot to kill' orders"
Tsipras is a sell-out and disgrace to the Greek people. It was just a matter of whether it was cellar level or basement level price at which he would throw the Greek people under the bus.
Tsipras came out alive of that dungeon full of mafia bosses. And he is alive. I did not expect anything more.
He will now let the Greek parliament and Greek people make the final decision.
tusks mothers name is eva dawidowska
and this is his size of his penis
http://s27.postimg.org/xzn74zws3/donald_tusk550.jpg
Greece should hypothecate and rehypothecate x the square root of infinity all of its assets for remuneration in bitcoin. Only then will they have real, tangible computer generated wealth for next generation of Greeks. The birthplace and burial ground of democracy.
To all those who keep dreaming of another bailout of banks by putting more load on Greece, I say this.
It is not over. There is no deal yet. Stop assuming and wait for the final chapter.
So it almost happened at 6 am in the morning? And not 6 am in the evening?
people still believe this kabuki theather is for real? come on you guyz, wise up, it's all a scripted show put on for the masses and you are falling for it. They are trying desparetly to divert our attention from some other game they are playing. the question is what game?
Well if there are just a few outstanduing issues eft to be agred upon why didn't they just call Goldman Sachs to come aboard and provide some insight?
I mean if Goldman can be so clever as to use outrageous and fraudulant exchange rates on the front leg of a FX swap to generate make believe, present value $ Billions.... I am sure that they could do something similar with asset swaps for airports, islands, and fuckin' 1st growth olive oil vineyards.
I mean c'mon.. this is getting serious... bring in the experts.
Polish chauvinist and nazi.
I'm not worried. The Greeks will have their drachma. Markets will crash. Freedom will be regained. The world will be destroyed. The Germans will be left holding what's left of the bag. Inflationary depression will rage. A potato will cost as much as a car.