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Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:03 | 6311825 Pinto Currency
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Why can't Iran have nukes again given India and Israel do and Saudi is planning to.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:03 | 6311832 eforce
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Neo-Cons say no.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:22 | 6311956 BlowsAgainstthe...
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Man, ZH is becoming a worthless neocon mouthpiece.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:25 | 6311974 Payne
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Instead of "Death to America" replace  with"Death to CIA and American Domination of Global trade", nah just not as catchy.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:46 | 6312070 ILLILLILLI
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Because it's the Jew that tells *YOU* what to do...

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:58 | 6312150 thebigunit
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Why do I have to like Iranian Mullahs because you dislike Jews?

Can't I dislike both of them?

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:14 | 6312278 DaddyO
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I kill you!

Infidel...

DaddyO

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 17:28 | 6312699 armageddon addahere
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I'm ready to die for Islam!  - Jihadi

We're ready to kill you for the hell of it! -America

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 19:28 | 6313250 invisible touch
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ain't dat raciss ??

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:53 | 6312110 nuubee
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So, being a neocon is required for recognizing the stupidity of trusting a nation that calls for the destruction of other nations with weapons that can do it in a hearbeat? Believe me, I'm not a fan of American empire, but I'd much rather have the U.S. in charge than Islam.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:06 | 6312221 The Delicate Genius
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you surely are not referencing the completely made up "wipe Israel off the map" agitprop from Zionist disonfo agent MEMRI are you?

Iran's leadership hasn't called for the destruction of Israel, they've called for elections in Israel and what Israel occupies.. i.e they've called for the end of a Zionist, Jewish ethnarchy and for the will and consent of all the people living under Zio military occupation and/or political leadership to have a voice.

Yeah - how crazy.

Somehow the idea of a state that builds apartheid colonies in land it deliberately stole in a war it deliberately started gets a pass.

Not a lot of Muslims in the news media, of course.

Israel’s attack on Egypt in June ’67 was not ‘preemptive’
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/07/04/israels-attack-on-egypt-i...

You been lied to... you been bamboozled, son.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:19 | 6312309 fencejumper
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Good one, DG. I liked what Flynt Leverett (a former senior analyst at the CIA, a Middle East specialist for the State Department and senior director for Middle East affairs at the National Security Council) had to say about Iran from Vienna today on Democracy Now.

 

http://www.democracynow.org/2015/7/14/could_historic_iran_nuclear_deal_t...

 

 

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 18:02 | 6312840 logicalman
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Just one name tells you a lot......

Mohammad Mosaddegh

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 18:21 | 6312895 F22
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Just to be clear Genius:

Hezbollah's founding document does however call for the destruction of Israel and Iran is the primary supporter of Hezbollah....

I see that you are inclined to ignore this fact however.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 21:10 | 6313577 Ya-way
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I can't upvote you enough

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:08 | 6312242 BoPeople
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Why?

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:27 | 6312250 The Darwin Mode
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"Believe me, I'm not a fan of American empire." --nuubee

A lie, and a blatant one, after reading your entire post. You are a fan of American empire, because you have already embraced the ideologies that have been given to you by the corporate mainstream propagandists who serve American empire. When you refer to "a nation that calls for the destruction of other nations", you're of course even more concerned about a nation actually going through with such destruction, yes? Like, say, Israel bulldozing through Palestine?

...Oh wait, no?

Pro-Israeli information warfare has succeeded for decades with its trumped-up fearmongering over Iranian aggression. Anti-Zionist vitriol coming from the Mullahs is seen as evidence they can't wait to launch nukes, yet the shockingly inflammatory rhetoric that's come from Israeli leadership over the decades doesn't even receive mention in the western press. How do you think Iranians feel about the constant threat of nuclear annihilation they face from Israel?

Without the willful ignorance of propaganda-gobblers like nuubee here, Ziocon Inc would have to scramble to sort out a new means of facilitating its total corporate-statist takeover of Iran... ahem, I mean it's "democratic liberation" of Iran (to use language more suitable to sheeple ears).

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 18:29 | 6312942 buyingsterling
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Islam advocates global theocratic dictatorship or genocide if the theocracy is resisted. Some of its followers take its dictates seriously. Not a big deal so long as their power is limited.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 16:37 | 6316879 Paveway IV
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No, that would only be the Saudi's particular twist on fundamentalist Sunni Islam - Wahhabism.

Mainstream Sunni and Shia Islam advocate no such thing. Sunni and Shia have lived alongside each other (and all other religions) for centuries. There are far more muslims (billions) tolerant of other religions then there are the handful of extremists who simply exploit Islam for their own personal, psychopathic benefit.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:18 | 6311934 LasVegasDave
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Would ZH post these great cartoons if Ramirez' real name was Rubenstein?

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:21 | 6311953 TruthInSunshine
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Zero Hedge perpetually pro-Ziocon & short equity markets since 2010.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:59 | 6312128 Bumpo
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Not sure ZH supports the Zionnist point of view, or is just providing raw meat for us to piss all over. I rather enjoy the ritual breaking down of Zionist propoganda. Ranting against evil is good therapy.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:10 | 6312254 The Delicate Genius
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pro-ziocon? not at all. The odd Ramirez facile, sophomoric nonsense stands out like a sore thumb here precisely because its the sort of shit you see all over the MSM.

Even I dont have a problem with zionist or neocon articles or perspectives here and there so the site isnt an echo chambers - all the Tylers call, of course...

I really only object to the weapons-grade, juvenile stupidty of this particular cartoon.

Its red meat for meatheads.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:17 | 6312307 leftcoastfool
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It's the stupid, sophomoric humor of the cartoon that brings a smile to some of our faces.  I know: "Oh, how high school!"...

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:41 | 6312447 Billy the Poet
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The "high school" remark is redundant. "Stupid" and "sophomoric" covered things nicely.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 17:08 | 6312585 still kicking
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Some of us enjoy a little red meat from time to time.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 18:32 | 6312966 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Ramirez shitoons display a compelling affinity for ignorance. The guy must wallow in it.

The thing is, Michael Ramirez must know that the absurd narrative he's peddling is bullshit, easily refuted by anyone that cares to do a little reading (which makes his "work" appealing to subliterate morons). He does it anyway, though, because truth doesn't pay as well as propaganda.

A twenty first century Philipp Rupprecht, Ramirez would have gladly drawn cartoons for Der Stürmer as long as the Reichsmarks were flowing.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 22:33 | 6313842 maplepeg
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I believe that ZH publishes the Ramirez crap simply because it is constantly anti-Obama everything. Never has Obama done anything right. I find Ramirez cartoons to be more than sophomoric; I find them to be flat-out racist because there is never any variation: just all anti-Obama all the time. I suspect the same of ZH for choosing to endlessly publish Ramirez cartoons when there are so many other great cartoons to choose from.

I wonder what kind of cartoons ZH published about the great G.W. Bush; or even the great Reagan who said he would like to wipe Russia off the face of the earth. Or is it only Iranian leaders who say such things?

ZH does a lot of great work, especially with fast-updates on economic news and genuinely alternative points of view on economic matters. But I am really tired of ZH's near-constant race-baiting and dog whistle crap (pity the poor confederate flag that can only be flown and worn by private individuals any time they wish). Ramirez cartoons are just another case in point.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 19:30 | 6313261 invisible touch
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does it count...? finally, at the end, he finally loved big brother...

 

soon or later you become a part of what you hate because the system simply not leave you the choice.

 

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 21:17 | 6313601 conscious being
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Re. LasVegasDave - "Would ZH post these great cartoons if Ramirez' real name was Rubenstein?"

Wait a minute. Are you letting the cat out of the bag? Maybe his real name was Rubenstein?

You know, Affinity Fraud, like HorseFace Kerry-Kohn, Knudelman-Nuland, What was Soros's name before it was Soros?

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:31 | 6312003 PrometeyBezkrilov
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Because some animals on the farm are more equal that the others. This is a total propaganda spiel by those who control the media.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:36 | 6312024 thunderchief
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This deal has nothing to do with nukes or Iran as any threat,

And everything to do with Saudi Arabia slowly turning is back on the Petrol dollar, and keeping Iran from cozying up with Putin. 

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:44 | 6312054 dark_matter
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Because Iran has a long history of attacking other countries with no real justification except imperial aspirations and countries like that shouldn't have nukes. /sarc

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:54 | 6312113 Sages wife
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Oh dark matter, you forgot to mention their uniqueness with respect to their history of having used them on civilian populations.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:44 | 6312466 Billy the Poet
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Now stop that! When the US government murders innocent people you know they have a good reason.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 17:13 | 6312619 BigJim
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Innocent of what?

-Little BIll

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:56 | 6312133 DetectiveStern
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Well they do but a long history in the 8,000 years kind of context but not the 300 whatever years of US existence context.

Funnily enough given today's events it was Alexander the Great who finished off the first Persian Empire...

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 17:22 | 6312673 Encroaching Darkness
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Well, there was that time at Thermopylae and at Salamis and .....

Oh, those were recent times? Pardon me, I had no idea how elderly you were.

We in the US have BARELY resisted using nuclear weapons - it's a truly appalling thing to say, but at the height of the Cold War there were several incidents that came close - one time a Soviet was the only thing that prevented their side launching, when he realized what he was seeing was a computer glitsch. Another time there was a sub near Cuba, was it? In any case, having one more irrational actor with access to nukes is unlikely to improve stability - and any deal Obumbler makes is suspect before it's discussed, let alone signed.

But EVERY country has imperial aspirations - nukes made it tougher to do with armies, so the Germans use banks, the Israelis use propaganda (here in the US) and the Islamics use ex-humans (suicide bombers and believers who will behead you). ALL countries seek hegemony; but I don't want any more nukes than we already have (and preferably less, how many times do you need to destroy all life on the planet)?

But the genie is out of the bottle now; try and live a just life, just because.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 22:21 | 6313801 Trogdor
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But EVERY country has imperial aspirations....

I think it would be worth restating that: The PTB ALL have imperial aspirations.  Don't roll me into that poop pile.  Truth is: the majority of the people just want to be left the hell alone and pretty much have zero interest in killing other random people.  Unfortunately, most (all) countries are run by total psychopaths who always seem to scream red-faced about the NEED to go to war ... but strangely enough they never do any of the dying ..... but they ARE around to make a few million here and there in the war industry and eventually get control over the other country's resources.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 18:05 | 6312848 logicalman
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I'd rather be Jewish in Iran than Iranian in Israel, that's for sure.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 19:19 | 6313215 meterman
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Would you expand on your comment with facts oh thou of superior intellect.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 20:26 | 6313456 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Just to get you started, here are a few links for you to ignore:

Iranian Jews urge Obama to seize on Rohani overtures
http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/ArticleLayout/CdaArticlePrintPreview/0,...

Jewish community in Iran slams US protest against Ahmadinejad's visit
http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/ArticleLayout/CdaArticlePrintPreview/1,...

Israel's Jewish Problem in Tehran
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/cook.php?articleid=11394

Iran's Jews reject cash offer to move to Israel
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/jul/12/israel.iran

Life of Jews Living in Iran
http://www.sephardicstudies.org/iran.html

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 21:24 | 6313617 conscious being
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Clouds of Hasbra attack squads swarming over this one, Stooge. Downvoting objective truth is a Hasbra ideologue specialty.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:43 | 6312061 BullyBearish
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Ramirez/IBD...banker's tool...enough said

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:49 | 6312087 onthesquare
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If you have the money you can have anything you want.  Nukes are no problem just keep them at your buddies house and when ever you want them just call and ask them to deliver them to any address you want.  Just takes money.  Iran has money.  

Please deliver to USSA fob China, India, Pakistan, Russia, Isrehell, etc.,

Can you really believe this theatre?

 

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:54 | 6312095 Meat Hammer
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I've noticed a lot of new faces on ZH these days.  I've also noticed a lot of down arrows for criticizing the Red Team Neo-Cons. Congratulations new ZH Rethuglican supporters....if you stick around long enough, you will learn (from the comments much more than the articles) that there is only one team and that the two-party system is an illusion of choice.

In the meantime, keep waving your Trump 2016 signs and believing that he's not one of "them". The epiphany will strike eventually and you will sit in stunned silence, mouth agape, starting at your computer and realizing that everything you've believed up to this point has been a lie.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:57 | 6312135 Sages wife
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Yes, and especially since the "technical difficulties" last week.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:03 | 6312201 thebigunit
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Oh, great!

 The epiphany will strike eventually and you will sit in stunned silence, mouth agape, starting at your computer and realizing that everything you've believed up to this point has been a lie.

Another useless nihilist puffing up his feathers because he thinks telling everyone what NOT to believe is somehow genius.


Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:08 | 6312217 Meat Hammer
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Stick around, Sonny.  You'll figure it out.  Maybe.

EDIT: bigunit - member for 3 years 16 weeks.  The bias is strong in this one.

 

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:47 | 6312487 Billy the Poet
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With that type you have to wait until they've hit bottom before they'll let you help them but by then you've lost interest.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:50 | 6312503 Cliff Claven Cheers
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He only started commenting on July 1, 2015.  This is what you call a "Seasoned" sock puppet account.  They are set up by the hundreds and put into use when needed.  I have noticed a lot of these accounts.  I am not a 100% sure bigunit is a troll but it is very suspicious to set up an account 3 years ago and then not use it.  Usually if you track their comments they are very agenda oriented.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:57 | 6312538 Billy the Poet
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Comment history has recently been truncated. The earliest post listed for you is 7-7-2015.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 17:18 | 6312652 Cliff Claven Cheers
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Well I am man enough to say I am sorry then.  I don't mean to falsely accuse anyone.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 17:08 | 6312584 thebigunit
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Am I in some sort of trouble?

I am not a 100% sure bigunit is a troll but it is very suspicious to set up an account 3 years ago and then not use it. 

Do I need to check in with the authorities?

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 17:19 | 6312657 Cliff Claven Cheers
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No, I was just accusing you of possibly being a troll.  Billy corrected me though.  Sorry.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 17:29 | 6312701 Billy the Poet
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Oh, he might still be a troll. It's just that length of post history is not a valid piece of evidence do to the fact that there has been a recent reduction in listed posts. His history could still be reviewed in search engine results and of course those with access to server logs would know a great deal more.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 18:20 | 6312894 leftcoastfool
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"Do I need to check in with the authorities?"

 

Report to your nearest FEMA camp for re-education...

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 20:02 | 6313365 thebigunit
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OK.

And I'll try not to act so suspiciously in the future.

Would it put everyone's mind at ease if I asked the government to read all my mail before they delivered it.  After all, I have NOTHING to hide.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:10 | 6312259 Oldwood
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So shall we retreat to our V grooved paneled den and cling tightly to our guns and bibles?

OK, lets see a show of hands...

how many here think the solution is retreat and hope all those who have been offended forgive or forget us???

If not, what is your plan? You will admit that they have every reason to hate us. And you have to admit they have made every verbal threat imaginable towards us. So how does it work??? Lots of talk about how they have every right to nukes, no matter what. No exceptions for belligerence, not exception of religious extremism. Anybody and everybody has nukes, right? There is just something a bit freaky about giving a guy a gun who is openly suggesting he wants you dead and is absolutely committed to a religion that sees its greatest honor in dying for its prophet. MAD just doesn't quite cut it with this type. Mutually assured destruction seems pretty okie dokie with these guys. I'm never going to say that all or even a majority of Iranians think this way, but what we know is that the most radical tend to float to the top. Intolerance and violence work that way. Pacifists tend to get trampled along the path to power. And when it comes to nukes, it really only takes one nut job looking to please Allah.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:17 | 6312306 Meat Hammer
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Retreat from what?  Words?  Did Iran attack us and I missed it?  Do you think that maybe if Iran were an irrational actor they might have done something to us by now?

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:42 | 6312453 Oldwood
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Simply walk away. Don't look back. Ignore any spoken or perceived threats.

YOU surely are not going to suggest that Iran with Nukes presents no threat to anyone. America has nukes and is a threat to everyone, but Iran isn't? Did they get some sainthood while I was at work?

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:45 | 6312473 Meat Hammer
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YOU surely are not going to suggest that Iran with Nukes presents no threat to anyone. 

That's exactly what I'm suggesting.

Simply walk away. Don't look back.

Indeed, sir.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:52 | 6312509 Billy the Poet
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According to the NIEs currently in effect Iran has no nuclear weapons program, no plan to create one and if they did we'd know about it in plenty of time. The NIE also states that Iran is a "rational actor."

Where is Oldwood getting his intelligence?

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 18:03 | 6312844 Oldwood
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So Obama says his self that they are two months from having bomb capability. They just purchased more ballistic technology that THEY claim can reach America.

Iran has only one reactor operating and it is supplied 100% by Russia, so they have no need for nuclear fuel. Further, their military development program may have been halted but the technology to produce a bomb is so prevalent that almost any funded group can do it. The only thing hard to come by is the fuel...the one thing that Iran has been massively pushing forward on. Fuel for which they have no purpose. Russia has said that Iran has no need for fuel development given their easy supply. This is just so much bullshit, this fucking game we are playing. We know Obama would give away his own mother for a deal...for his legacy, and yet you have no suspicions...its all good...they "deserve" the bomb....or they never were planning on getting the bomb. Its just too much. So jaded, and understandably so, that you can't see anything but what your own biases will let you see. America, through its years of meddling, has only made what was a fucked up part of the world into a fire bomb, and Obama is lighting the fuse. Iran is not a stupid country. They are not going to deliberately bomb America. They are pursuing a North Korea status where they can be a belligerent as they please, demand what they will and the world will capitulate...because they have nukes. And as they have shown, they are not all in it for the glory. They have plenty of useful idiots at their elbow that they can send on fools errands and suicide missions while claiming THEY had nothing to do with it...pointing their finger at Israel, and YOU will believe them. Why not? It sure isn't a stretch for you. If your perception rules, we are done. There is no legitimate means of defending ourselves. If a nuke went off over DC you would claim neocons did it. We think Obama has it made as a black man as no criticism can be legitimate as they are ALL steeped in racism. It is the same for America. Nothing that can happen here is legitimate now in the eyes of people such as yourself and much of the rest of the world. We could be nuked off the face of the planet and you would still say its a false flag attack. How does a nation stand against that mentality?

We are fucked because America is are fucked.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 18:29 | 6312941 Billy the Poet
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So Obama says his self that they are two months from having bomb capability.

 

Well then it must be true! Politicians have never lied about Weapons of Mass Destruction in the Middle East and Obama himself is as honest as the day is long.

How quickly you forget, "the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy."

 

"They just purchased more ballistic technology that THEY claim can reach America."

 

As long as you're taking the Iranians at their word then consider the fact that THEY also claim that they have no intention of building nuclear weapons.

But why go to the trouble of parsing the words of politicians when the sixteen US intelligence agencies and the Pentagon all agree with high confidence that Iran has no nukes?

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 18:08 | 6312857 logicalman
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I sometimes think Oldwood doesn't have any intelligence, or any desire to acquire any.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 18:19 | 6312888 Dancing Disraeli
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Not a fan of the Z-cabal, but just wondering-- does Saudi Arabia now go nuclear in response?

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 18:49 | 6313058 newdoobie
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Hell Yeah! SA is worse than America, Christians are just pagans, the house of Saud is Apostate

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 21:30 | 6313636 conscious being
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Dancing Ds - Many places are quietly going nuclear.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:57 | 6312539 Max Steel
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 Having nukes to threat oyhers is being threatened by a non nuklear nation . Twisted fciking logic .

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 17:17 | 6312641 Hugh G Rection
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Well Iran did blow up 3 steel framed highrises on 9/11...

Oh wait, that was Israel and the neocons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H2wr0khnJA

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 21:36 | 6313651 conscious being
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One state with a secret nuclear weapons program kills 3,000 Americans on live TV, in broad daylight, but remember to be afraid of Iran.

Here's how Haaretz sees 9/11.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 18:46 | 6313040 newdoobie
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Iran hates our ass for taking all their valuable property and installing the shah. They have funded our enemies (and those of Israel) They have stated that the whole of Persia should be ruled by them and that Saudi is apostate.

They have lots of reasons to hate us, but from my experience in the ME, Arabs like to use your own strength against you. Everyone over there likes it when someone uses a bullys strength against him. Arabs laugh like loons when they see Pro Arab organizations win lawsuits by twisting American law on its head.

Iran wants in the Nuclear Club

I doubt Iran will bomb America, but it will continue to twist its tail, and threaten, and dance and do anything it can to piss it off. (and then laugh when America gets mad)

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 22:36 | 6313854 Trogdor
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Excuse me, but do you speak Farsi? Or are you depending on Zionist controlled media to accurately relay to you what has been said?

Are there whack jobs out there? Hell yeah. Do they control what their government is doing? Not sure, but if history is any indicator, Iran hasn't started a fight in a hell of a long time - which is more than can be said for the good ol' YOU-ESS-AY or that rabid little dog of the Middle East, Israel (who goes around kicking sand in people's faces and then has the US come in and fight their wars). I'm pretty sure that if Israel wasn't a country packed with assholes who treated everyone around them as inferior, mucking around in their business, they *might* not have harsh words hurled their way. I might suggest that you read the Koran some time so that you might be able to discern between radical beliefs and what the book says ... it's kind of like knowing the difference between a Talmudic Zionist and a Torah Jew. Radical Islam is supported and fomented by Israel(Zionists) - make no mistake, the Zionists and their Neocon lapdogs want a war.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 19:26 | 6313240 meterman
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Are you attacking the messenger or the message or both. Your validity depends on your reply Meat Beater.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 19:52 | 6313334 de3de8
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Unless they are not of voting age should have learned long before now.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:01 | 6312168 yudd
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There are no nukes, no one has nukes, its a sci fi weapon, that does not exist, explain how a nuclear exlosion reaction works with entorpy, the first law of thermodynamics. Also, if the flash is brighter than a 1000 suns, why is it yellow / red and not white or blue.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:30 | 6312377 Climb
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REMOVE THE TIN FOIL HATS PLEASE!

 

(yes, you have to wearing more than one, correct?)

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 18:10 | 6312863 logicalman
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Let me guess.....

You weren't top of the class in high school science.

 

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:04 | 6312204 Nue
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Maybe because "Death to America" isn't their national slogan?

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 18:12 | 6312868 StaresWithStares
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Cus Iran has our hostages so they get moar bombs?

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 20:36 | 6313495 oklaboy
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Well let me guess, India and Israel are running around saying "Death to America" and threatening to nuke evreybody who is not Mooslime? that might be a good thought to start.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:03 | 6311829 taketheredpill
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Feck Off with all the Crazy Mullah bullshit.  For the record 1) Even if Iran eventually had Nukes they would never use them against a nuclear power (US/Israel) even though 2) they have a legitimate grievance against US for over-throwing their democratically elected government.

 

 

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:17 | 6311924 RabbitOne
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Rabid dogs do strike first even though the other dog is bigger…

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:19 | 6311940 Pinto Currency
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Sounds like NATO countries.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:58 | 6312151 Fish Gone Bad
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A great big underground nuke would probably turn the Arabian peninsula into a sea lane.  They have sucked soooooo very much oil out of the ground, for a very long time. 

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:25 | 6311966 BlowsAgainstthe...
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"Even if Iran eventually had Nukes they would never use them against a nuclear power (US/Israel) . . ."

A conclusion that the Israeli intellengence services have also arrived at.  MAD works.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:31 | 6312001 rbg81
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MAD works when both parties are rational.  The Iranian Mullahs are religious nutjobs.  Like most Islamists, they may consider the 72 virgins they'll supposedly get in Heaven as more important than the Hell they can create here on Earth.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:43 | 6312060 Volkodav
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Iran has not started any war in 200 years.

Yet has had plenty dirty crap done to them...

 

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 17:02 | 6312557 Oldwood
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They haven't started shit for the same reason most others haven't....they can't. They have been living in the middle ages for the last four hundred years. They are surrounded by Arabs who really don't like them all that much, so why would they start something? It is a fallacy to believe that because they have not deliberately entered a war with other countries that they are inherently peaceful. They were plenty chummy with Hitler, so I wouldn't automatically put them in the good guy column. They may have just lacked the opportunity, which is why they are madly working to acquire nuclear and ballistic missile technology....for peace.  And all because they feel oppressed or commanded by Allah or some other bullshit. Every tyrant in history has used the same excuse, including America.

I really don't know the answer and mostly argue to be contrary, but seriously, if these people are so good and kind, why do we not see a constant stream of immigration to their wholesome shores. Why is it that so many on this site are so willing to give Iran the benefit of the doubt when they are not willing to go live under that regime and instead stay here and condemn their own. Don't get me wrong, we got plenty to atone for, and the payback is going to be a bitch. Just don't keep blowing this shit up my leg about how innocent and harmless Iranians or anyone else is. This is a dog eat dog world and any of them will eat us for dinner if given half a chance.

I don't trust any of them...not a damned one.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 18:46 | 6313041 Billy the Poet
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I'm not afraid of Lithuanians. Must I therefore reside with them? What exactly are the rules of this game?  Is there any structure other than your unreasonable fears?

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 18:50 | 6313064 newdoobie
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Weren't they in a war with Iraq for like... forever?

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 19:18 | 6313209 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

Weren't they in a war with Iraq for like... forever?

Try reading for comprehension. Responding to an attacker is not equivalent to starting a war.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:01 | 6312182 Excursionist
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To believe the mullahs are irrational zealots is to grossly underestimate them.

The religion racket is just another biz used to attain power via control of bovine masses that are unwilling to think for themselves.  True for most religions.  Buddhism is perhaps an exception, but I digress...

One thing I'm certain of is that the mullahs have zero interest in losing their power by nuking or attempting to nuke Israel or any other country.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:38 | 6312427 Meat Hammer
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More like ovine

  1. of, relating to, or resembling sheep.
Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:40 | 6312439 Temporalist
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Seriously the religious nuts in every country, just like the political nuts, love themselves far too much to kill themselves.  Besides they won't be able to wield their "power" and molest children if they are dead.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 18:15 | 6312873 logicalman
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The US is hardly short of religious nut jobs.

Scary thing is the number of them in government positions.

Gohmert is just one scary example.

You couldn't use his name and the word rational in the same sentence.

 

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:58 | 6312137 The Darwin Mode
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"MAD works." --BlowsAgainstthe...

Except the participants in detente are perpetually seeking the means to undermine mutually assured destruction through the development of a first strike capability -- yes, even today.

ABM systems in the late '60s and early '70s undermined the stability of MAD, but the USSR and US spent untold billions in the procurement of these systems nonetheless. Then came MIRV technology, which made ABMs useless against a preemptive nuclear attack (conveniently ushering in the ABM treaty), and after that came SDI (which was technologically at a dead-end, but illustrated perfectly the lie of MAD as a stabilizing model).

Now we've got even more developments contributing to the constant undermining of MAD: new missile defense systems, a broad proliferation of low-yield "tactical" nuclear warheads among leading military powers, and potentially the hypersonic missile/aircraft systems (which are ultimately conceived around the desire to launch conventional strikes against hardened ICBM facilities without triggering a nuclear response).

It is evident that MAD has been hanging by a thread since at least the early ABM days of the mid-60s. The fact we're not presently scratching out primitive existences in a blackened, post-nuclear winter wasteland is not evidence that "MAD works". We simply haven't arrived at the end of the nuclear story yet.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:41 | 6312443 BlowsAgainstthe...
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Perhaps . . . I personally lean more to this conclusion:

Why Iran Should Get the Bomb

 

Nuclear Balancing Would Mean Stability

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/iran/2012-06-15/why-iran-should-...

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 03:15 | 6314210 acommenter
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For those who don't know the author of this article. is the Father of modern geopolitics/international relations, not just a random dude, not even a well respected academian.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 16:25 | 6316831 r0mulus
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+100 man, you are killing it on this articles comment section so far.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:22 | 6312338 Oldwood
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Of course not. Everyone knows Iran is only pursuing nuclear technology for peaceful purposes, even though they are parked on top of a massive oil field. And even though the west has offered to give them nuclear fuel for their peaceful reactors if they would simply stop refining, they have refused. Must be that Crazy Mullah Pride.

Its OK. It's understandible. Fear does that. When faced with an irrational opponent, the first thing we do is always blame those who claim to defend us as the provokers. Its all our fault. Do not resist. Just nod submittingly to every question and demand. As battered spouses we deserve to be attacked....we are all just their little bitches after all, right. Maybe if we wear a burqa or hajib and walk five paces behind we won't catch the back of their hand.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:36 | 6311837 Ignatius
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Propaganda... and not funny. 

Which is strange 'cause there's plenty about Obummer's policies to ridicule and laugh at.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 18:20 | 6312891 Oldwood
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So why aren't you?

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:05 | 6311843 Pancho de Villa
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And here we have Cartoons for Koolaid Drinkers...

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:05 | 6311845 spoonful
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Cartoon by Netanyahoo

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:05 | 6311847 cookies anyone
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bull-shit

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:05 | 6311850 Das Capitalist
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Propaganda

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:19 | 6311938 Pancho de Villa
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Don't you mean "Public Relations"?

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:07 | 6311863 Osmium
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Don't see anything in the cartoon where they broke Kerry's leg?

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:13 | 6311891 iClaudius
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Can't have happened, lame horses are shot.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:11 | 6311878 CHC
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I want a nuke damn it!!

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:11 | 6311879 loregnum
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More idiotic fear mongering from that twat at Investors.com. Shocking.

Hilarious there are actually people who think Iran is some big threat to the U.S. Like they are going to risk that retaliation if they even wanted to do something. The idiocy is strong with many out there when it comes to drinking the kool-aid.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:12 | 6311885 Ms No
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The Neo Cons are going nuts, it's hilarious.  Funny how Americans don't even have their own homeland these days but the focus remains on Israel.   

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:20 | 6312327 nevertheless
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The greatest irony ever witnessed on this planet is the shocking loyal support evangelicals give to Israel. They place support for Israel above support for their own country, which is what gives zionist cover in DC. 

 

 

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:42 | 6312456 Temporalist
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Because of white jeebus (just making the clear distinction between that old biblical jeebus and the new black jeebus).

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:42 | 6312458 lakecity55
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That started in the 1800s with that Scofield guy.

Before that, you can't find any mention of Hebrews going back to their "homeland," since God already kicked them out.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:46 | 6312483 Temporalist
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But God always has a plan...so he's got that going for him.  God may be the worst landlord in the history of landlords.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:13 | 6311893 silentboom
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This would be popular over at townhall with neoconia.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:16 | 6312294 nevertheless
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Which is right next door to Zionstonia, and of course both are located in the heart of DC.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:13 | 6311895 Able Ape
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Oh come on!  GE and its shitty reactor design has caused more damage to Japan and the world than Iran ever will!  All water-cooled reactors with pools of hot waste sitting next door are infinitely more dangerous than Iran.  You want to destroy the West?  Be patient and wait for their aging reactors to go apeshit!

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:40 | 6312440 lakecity55
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"Wow, Bath House, thanks for the discount on this GE reactor!!"
"Uhh, nothing at all, Ayatollah."
"is it safe?"
"You insult me, sir!"
"A thousand pardons. Where do we plug it in?"
"They work best around earhquake zones for some reason. I think it keeps the electrrons moving."

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:13 | 6311897 Miffed Microbio...
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Does he get another Nobel Prize for this? Surely it is deserved. What's up next? Cure of cancer, ending poverty, quieting tectonic plate movement ending earthquakes and tsunamis, Solar flare cessation? I shiver in anticipation. And to think one silly woman was just thrilled Obama was going to pay her mortgage.

Miffed

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:27 | 6311983 PRO.223
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signed in to up you

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:40 | 6312040 juggalo1
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Actually in honesty I think he and Kerry do deserve a peace prize for this.  On the other hand the last one was issued preemptive to this announcement, so you could say that one was for this.  I would also say Hassan Rouhani is equally deserving.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:59 | 6312159 Sages wife
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Santa's drunk again.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:14 | 6312282 nevertheless
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hey give credit where credit it due. Obama deserves credit for all the crap he has done for sure, but this is from all outward appearances quite the feat. Anytime you can poke the zionist DC establishment in the eye, is a very good day.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:31 | 6312384 lakecity55
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He got his piece prize in advance.

No, he has to set foot on Mars or something to get another one.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:14 | 6312283 Milestones
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Good memory--pay the mortage thingy. Also funny.           Milestones

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:15 | 6311903 Koolcatt
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shgh*

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:15 | 6311908 RabbitOne
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Think about the paranoia in Israel. I would not be surprised if they took ‘drastic actions’ to secure their own interests…

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:20 | 6311949 The Delicate Genius
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for fuck's sake...

do YOU evne know what you mean?

You think Iran is going to build a nuke to launch at israel, killing lots of shia in Lebanon, and resulting in their immediate total destruction?

REALLY?

So the Israelis/Jews are totally rational and peace loving, but the Iranians are so desperate to destroy Israel and kill everyone there, they'd sign on to killings tens of thousands of muslims and ensuring their own destruction

I mean this is abject stupidity, Zio-indoctrinated racism, or both.

It's fucking weapons grade stupidity.

Israel threatens the entire middle east with its military and nukes and quest for lebensraum, but they can count on Jewish power and privilege and useful idiot Scoffield Bible thumping fatheads to Orwellize the narrative, painting themselves as victims.

Think for yourself - for fuck's sake.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:31 | 6311995 Paveway IV
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RabbitOne's post was sarcasm, for fuck's sake... are you that dim?

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:10 | 6312256 nevertheless
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Not dim, he/she is just so accustomed to American zionist media BS...

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 16:26 | 6312359 lakecity55
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"Hey, we're all dead! You damn Iranians.

But you are now in Paradise, brothers. Wasn't wiping out the little satan cause for us to sacrifice you?

Hey! Wait! Those are old bitches!

The Book did not promise you how old they would be, only that they were virgins. How about some young Taliban boys?

Uhh, OK.

/s

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:15 | 6311911 QQQBall
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Obomber woke up and realzsed he has has blown 6.5 years fucking up and playing golf. He is trying to create the iilusion of a legacy that he can spin rather than governing effectively. I fixed Iran, I opened Cuba, I fixed health care, etc. Look for a lot more damage in the coming months.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:16 | 6311912 The Delicate Genius
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http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_islam...

http://www.voltairenet.org/article178638.html

This is about "Greater Israel" and the Zios wanting American blood and treasure to smash any potential resistance to it.

That's all it is.

Read the links.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:17 | 6311925 The Delicate Genius
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you know, competing viewpoints and such are always a good idea, even on an "alternative" site that largely attracts its audience by differing from the MSM and dominant economic paradigm - we don't want to be an echo chamber - that'[s all fair enough.

But this fucking cartoon is the product of simpletons.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:22 | 6311958 johnlocke445
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I believe that the only thing the United States (criminal bankers) wanted the whole time was a guarantee from Iran that they would sell their oil in US dollars.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 21:47 | 6313687 conscious being
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Agreed. Did they get that?

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:23 | 6311960 Dixie Flatline
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They just want to be friends, right lunatics?

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:35 | 6311986 The Darwin Mode
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Zio porn garbage makes such trite cartoonage (perfect for the permanently sheepified, of course). Just remember the founding principle of American governance, you of the reigning neolib-neocon idiocracy: anything for fucking Israel.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:31 | 6312002 the grateful un...
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obviously they're smart enough to figure out nuclear technology. so what obama wants probably is to start some economic development in Iran. so let them have the technology, what happened in Brazil. the world is full of nukes and not always people we like. one north korea is enough. Iran is fighting ISIS, Iran is not a terrorist nation.  

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:33 | 6312009 Joebloinvestor
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The cartoonist forgot a panel.

The panel should be," and we are keeping the prisoners to".

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:42 | 6312010 Ms No
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The wheels may be coming off the US/Zionist clown car.  The US better throw some money at the Sauds STAT.  Bahahaha!

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 16:59 | 6316950 Paveway IV
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Putin beat their ass to THAT, too. 

The clown car is arriving a day late and a dollar short to nearly every global circus. Nobody even laughs at the funny clown horn anymore.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:34 | 6312014 BiPolarFrenchman
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I love how the caricature of the Iranians are okay by western standards, even though they resemble the jewish caricatures of Europe circa 1930s, same ones we're taught to abhor.

Tue, 07/14/2015 - 15:41 | 6312046 RealistDuJour
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It's equal opportunity!  Look at Obama's big ears!  He has big ears and they charicaturized it, so it's otay!

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