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World Powers Reach Landmark Nuclear Deal With Iran, Oil Slides - Full Deal Text
It is only fitting that almost exactly 24 hours after the Greek "pre-deal", which may and will end up crashing and burning in very short notice, another long expected "deal", one which has been about a decade in the making, was reached, when Iran reached a landmark nuclear agreement with the U.S. and five other world powers, a long-sought foreign policy goal of the Obama administration. However, just like with the Greek deal celebrations, these too will likely be short lived as the outcome sets the White House on course for months of political strife with dissenters in Congress and in allied Middle Eastern nations.
In the end, however, the reality is that with little oversight both Iran and the West will maintain the status quo, even if the chances of a middle-east "preemptive" war involving Israel and/or Saudi Arabia increase substantially.
Here are some of the deal highlight bullets from Reuters and Bloomberg:
- Iran ballistic missile embargo seen in place for 8 years
- Conventional weapon embargo seen in place for 5 years
- Iran to cut 98% of enriched uranium stockpile under deal
- Iran will eliminate two-thirds of centrifuges under deal
- EU to lift sanctions on Iran as it meets nuclear obligations
- Iran deal implementation will take months, officials say
- Iran won’t receive sanctions relief until it complies with terms of agreement
In terms of the next steps timeline, Bloomberg adds that oil sanctions on Iran unlikely to be lifted before December 2015, according to most optimistic assessment of steps involved in draft of nuclear agreement obtained by Bloomberg. Most analysts expect this to happen sometime in 2016.
Key steps as follows: the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, or JCPOA, will be adopted 90 days after endorsement by UN Security Council resolution, or sooner by unanimous consent of all parties.
After Adoption Day, U.S., EU will issue waivers, introduce legislation to lift oil and other sanctions on so-called Implementation Day. Implementation Day is when Intl Atomic Energy Agency verifies that Iran has met key nuclear-related obligations. Implementation day likely to be at least ~2 months after Adoption Day, according to U.S. administration officials; less optimistic scenarios suggest implementation sometime in 2016.
The background on what for many years had seemed like a neverending discussion is largely known by most, but here is the WSJ with a quick rundown:
The Obama administration and its partners hope the deal will resolve a dispute that at times threatened to spark a military conflict. In the optimistic view, it would ease tensions with Tehran over time and pave the way for fresh attempts to resolve some of the region’s many other conflicts.
In a Twitter post, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani said the deal showed that “constructive engagement works,” adding “with this unnecessary crisis resolved, new horizons emerge with a focus on shared challenges.”
However, critics in Washington, Israel and the Gulf nations that neighbor Iran say the deal will merely delay Iran’s path to nuclear weapons. After 10 years of restraint on its activities mandated by the agreement, Tehran will then be able to ratchet up its nuclear program and potentially unleash a nuclear arms race in the region, they fear.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called the deal a “historic mistake.”
“Wide-ranging concessions were made in all of the areas which should have prevented Iran from getting the ability to arm itself with a nuclear weapon,’’ Mr. Netanyahu said. “The desire to sign an agreement was stronger than everything else.”
The amusing irony is that according to the WSJ, the agreement could provoke new strains in U.S. ties with its traditional Middle Eastern allies in Israel and the Gulf states led by Saudi Arabia. Why is this ironic? Because as we reported in May, the US just sold "Over $4 Billion In Weapons To Israel, Iran And Saudi Arabia." A more cynical person could be almost inclined to assume the US is eagerly seeking an outcome that destabilizes the already "ISIS ravaged" region even further.
In the meantime, US arms customers, "have warned that lifting tight international sanctions will deliver an economic windfall that enables Iran to expand its regional influence by boosting funding for proxies in Syria, Lebanon, Yemen and elsewhere."
Meanwhile, the diplomats are happy:
French Prime Minister Manuel Valls hailed a deal as an important step in calming tensions. “Everyone is aware of the change this represents,” Mr. Valls said in a television interview on the sidelines of France’s Bastille Day celebrations.
“There’s been a tension with Iran for ten years or so. Of course, it’s not over, but a very important step has been taken,” he added.
The final round of negotiations stretched for more than two weeks and was punctuated by tensions and setbacks, at times devolving into shouting matches among international officials. The U.S. repeatedly warned it was willing to walk away from a bad deal while Iranians threatened to rev back up their nuclear program.
The quid:
At the heart of the agreement between Iran and the six powers—the U.S., U.K., Russia, China, Germany and France—is Tehran’s acceptance of strict limits on its nuclear activities for 10 years. These are supposed to ensure that the country remains a minimum of 12 months away from amassing enough nuclear fuel for a bomb. After the 10-year period, those constraints will ease in the subsequent five years.
In exchange, the U.S., the European Union and the United Nations will lift tight international sanctions on Tehran, a move that Western diplomats say could help Iran’s economy to expand by 7% to 8% annually for years to come.
Iran, which analysts say could double oil exports quickly after sanctions are lifted, will also receive more than $100 billion in assets locked overseas under U.S. sanctions.
... and the pro quo:
Iran must take an array of specific steps. It must disable two-thirds of its centrifuge machines used to enrich uranium, which can be used as fuel for nuclear energy or nuclear weapons. It must slash its stockpile of enriched uranium and redesign its nuclear reactor in the city of Arak so that it produces less plutonium, which can also be used in a weapon.
Oil-rich Iran has always insisted its nuclear program is for entirely peaceful purposes, such as producing electricity and medical isotopes.
After years of stalling, Iran also must disclose information on its past nuclear activities, which many Western officials believe was aimed at gaining nuclear weapons know-how. Iran must provisionally implement an agreement giving United Nations inspectors much broader access to sites inside the country and eventually get parliamentary approval for that agreement.
But the biggest hurdle for implementation will be the US itself, where a vocal republican-controlled Congress has said it would fight the deal:
The nuclear deal will fan intense political debate in Washington, where Congress may vote within 60 days on the agreement. As a last resort, the Obama administration may have to rely on the support of Democrats to uphold a presidential veto if the Republican-led Congress votes to overturn the agreement.
At the end of the day, the "deal" - just like Greece's pyrrhic defeat, will be mostly watercooler talk with little actual implementation:
“The technical obstacles can be surpassed with goodwill and diligence, but political hurdles can turn into poison pills,” said Ali Vaez, senior Iran analyst at Crisis International, an international conflict resolution group.
“Neither
Iran nor the U.S. has ever implemented such a complex quid pro quo. In
an atmosphere of mistrust, misunderstandings are inevitable—thus the
need for preserving the positive diplomatic momentum even after the deal
is sealed.”
For now however, the biggest loser from a potential deal, oil, is sliding on concerns what the imminent surge in Iran deliveries to the global market will do to prices: as a result oil slid nearly 2 percent after Tuesday's deal. Brent crude was last down $1.35 a barrel, or 2.3 percent, at $56.50 a barrel.
"Sanctions have crippled Iran's oil production, halving oil exports and severely limiting new development projects. The prospect of them being lifted is creating great excitement ... as foreign trade and investment will allow Iran to make huge efficiencies and drive down the cost of production," said Sarosh Zaiwalla, a London-based sanctions lawyer.
The fall in crude prices hit oil producers' currencies. The Norwegian crown fell 0.3 percent to 8.11 per dollar, having earlier fallen to 8.14, while the Canadian dollar fell 0.4 percent against the greenback to a four-month low of C$1.2796.
But the biggest winner, if only for the time being is Obama, who will make a statement wihin the hour to show the American people just what a strong diplomat he really is.
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For those searching, below is the full text of the 159 page deal as leaked by Iran's Tabnak news site.
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No way in hell this holds.
Dream on....cause we got nothing out of this deal.
Read all about it:
Father time trumps nuclear deal.
I am happy for the Iranian people. They will finally be able to live without American financial terrorism for the first time in many of their lives. Can you say Tehran Apple Store?
Don't know about Apple Stores but this is a good deal for all sides. If you're unsure of that, just look at Nutenyahoo's reaction.
Good deal for all sides??? Don't be a fucking retard. If Obama is behind it, you can bet your life it's a shitty deal for the U.S.
All he has left to do is divide Israel then he can set his eyes on Putin, or maybe it's Reggie? I lose track sometimes.
Does this mean Iran gets a Rothschild controlled central bank?
Beat me to it. The new branch will be open next week, and dollars will be flooding the streets.
Reggie when he feels like pitching,
Putin when he feels like catching.
Iran should talk to Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi about the deals they made with the US. Oh wait...
You forget that Iran is where the US started the regime change game? Mossadegh? Elections tampering? Any of this ring a bell?
Fucking Americans have the convenient memory of a sociopath.
LOL! A "retard" is one who views reality through the prism of their hatred for Obama. I have little use for Obama (didn't vote for him either time) but here his adminstration has accomplished something worthwhile.
Well, given the fact that Obama has a 100% perfect track record of doing things that undermine or outright destroy the U.S., what makes you think this is any different? Only a fool fails to account for the evidence.
"It's an ill wind that blows no good."
The US just wants Iran to buy treasuries
The State: Ideas so great, they have to be mandatory.
Go ponder that before you accuse government of having another "good idea."
Yeah a bunch of loonies who just can't wait to blow themselves and everyone else around them up in the name of some imaginery God having the means to do so is such a good deal.
rikky.....you are talking about that ass McCain...unleash the dog of war
How do all those niceties work out for Lybia and Kwak-daffi?
Once the sanctions are lifted they will never be reimposed. Iran has repeatedly said that none of these terms are acceptable.
Iran is as likely to live up to the terms of their agreement as Greece is. Everyone knows what the "real" deal is, keep the ponzi going while building a greater crisis. One can't help but wonder exactly how big the crisis must become before the top will blow off.
It will be a big one, that's for sure.
This Iran deal sounds like a repackaged Libya deal, the deal where Obama agrees to lift trade sanctions against Muammar Gaddafi and then later overthrows Gaddafi (with the help of his Saudi overlords). The finale for the Libyan operation was Obama ordering U.S. jets to bomb the white flagged convoy that was carrying Gaddafi away from Misrata (probably to the airport). Gaddafi should have known that you can't rely on the word of a cokehead.
Exactly!
Agreements are only as good as the trust that backs them. There is no trust. America has repeatedly shown that they honor no agreements.
Fun fact: Valerie Jarrett was born in Iran and spoke Persian as a child.
Don't assume you know where her loyalties lie, or what is motivating her, especially considering that she serves a Muslim in the White House.
Iran is an Islamic state, unlike Egypt or Libya, both of which were run by secular governments before Obama fucked with them. That alone makes Iran a much different case.
You are a fucking idiot, Banzai. You ceaselessly focus on his 1 muslim advisor and ignore the fact Obama was put into power by, and very disproportionately appointed Jews. He's left treasury and state in the hands of zio jews like nuland.
Why dont you go back to watching Fox News and whatever brain dead right wing websites you frequent.
20 years of Israel crying wolf while building its own nukes, and periodically bombing schools and hospitals and bulldozing Palestinian homes so racist whackjob jews from Brooklyn can "return".
All of that is fine with you of course, because you are a brainwashed, obtuse cunt.
Fuck you.
Regarding Obama's relationship with Teh Joos, look up the word "Taqiya".
Your vitriolic attacks reveal your ignorance and venality.
Obama was born of a Muslim father, automatically making him Muslim according to Islamic law. He was raised Muslim by his Muslim stepfather, and attended Muslim religious school as a youth. He claims to have converted to Christianity, but did so in a church that does not require baptism (the cornerstone sacrament of Christian faith) in a sect that was notable for nothing except the anti-American ranting of its rather ridiculous leader, "Pastor" Wright. The Obama administration is riddled with members of the Muslim Brotherhood, and it is a badly-kept secret that the current CIA Director is a Muslim convert from his extensive time working in Saudi Arabia. But, by all means, keep believing what you want to believe.
So, keep ranting ignorantly and insanely, and spewing senseless vitriol, if that makes you happy. It makes you sound like a superannuated, spoiled, lazy, immature, and ignorant 17-year old, assuming you care what anybody else thinks.
Gaddafi should've broadcast his surrender live on a reputable news source (like RT, AJ, etc). It woud've been harder to off him this way. Gotta use THEIR tactics in this war.
once sanctions are lifted, Iran will be swiftly admitted to SCO under the direct protection of Russia, China and India. It was agreed during the recent BRICS/SCO summit, where Iran was also invited. There is no possible way USA can do to Iran what they did to Libya. That is: unless they want to start WWIII already against Iran, Russia China, India and probably many others. Besides, it is impossible to do to Iran, what was done in Libya, because population of Libya was not united. There were sunnis, shias etc. The same goes for Syria, that is why this is a problem - you can provoke sectarian warfare and destroy them from inside. But Iran is a united compact civilisation (former Persian empire), where there are no divisions and where people are able to unite as one man against the hated West - somewhat similar to Russia. And you can see it also in Egypt, where they simply kicked out the Obama's Muslim Brotherhood and said: No, thank you. One expert summarised it nicely: the USA has absolutely no idea, how to deal with "ancient civilisations/ancient empires, their normal tactics dont work there."
USA got a lot!
We get Oblamo's big ass smile, grinning from ear to ear. We get the horse's mouth piece chewing hay and spewing how he changed the world. We get Biden stading BEHIND da man, looking (or trying to look) prezidential.
blah, blah, blah.
there will be a boots on the ground WAR over there before the 10 years is up.
NoVa
Sooo... this means Iran will have The Bomb within a year, right?
Mr. Yellen will raise rates before Iran gets the bomb
pods
At last, they have reached climax.
It's not surprising really. The Americans and the Shia have been "camped out" together near Ramadi for some time now. The Americans have done all the bumbing, and an invigorated Shia have performed well with US "Special Forces" in their rear.
Is it now time to forgive the Syrian leader, Assbad le Badass, and include him in their struggles with ISIS?
This Deal or No Deal crap is getting old. #howiemandelrules
Just deal me in.
The DC US, completely under Zion's thumb, has been used to make this deal, so I wonder if the coming next big Dancing Mossad false-flag will not just have 19 Iranians attached to it.
Regardless, something is stirring in Zion's caldron.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..
under Zion's thumb? do you let your jew hatred blind everything you say? this is no deal for the israelis that's as plain as the nose on your face.
Fuck off Rikky.
Your Talmudic traits are showing.
Maybe you and Las Vegas Dave can attend temple together.
There is a 'PAC' (Political Action Committee) in the U.S., Rikky. I won't fill in the missing 3 letters that it begins with - because you already know it. The PAC is responsible for most of U.S. foreign policy, and fairly well 100% of U.S. foreign policy as it pertains to Middle Eastern affairs. As far as the remainder of U.S. foreign policy, who runs it and under whose thumb it is, I submit that you look into the acronym 'PNAC' and the 'Wolfowitz Doctrine'. Try as you might to make 'Jew hatred' stick to the wall - it won't... Those days are over, as are the days of trying to cram 'victimhood' down the throats of the gullible, while the unseemly hand does its dirty work in the body politic.
Israel's Mossad gave us 911 (www.bollyn.com). In response, we destabilized (destroyed?) Iraq and Libya and let Iran, Iraq, and Libya loose. Agreed that Israel is up to something here; far from clear what. Maybe Israel's goal is simply to create a larger market for its arms sales, from which Israel makes huge profits.
The world would have gotten a better deal if Tsipras did the negotiating for our side. /s
PRICE-LINE, NEGOTI-A-TOR!
Lower oil prices. Once all commodities are available at $1/ton or $1/barrel, we'll see some green shoots.
Dumb black muslim couldnt give away soup on a wet, cold day
Gay - you forgot Gay
Thank God our Constitution prevents a dumb affirmative action Clown like Obango from committing the Nation to this without the consent of congress.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cesSRfXqS1Q
A real pivot away from the House of Saud.......or a fake one?
All policies serve one mission. Chaos.
Just look around.
Which nations are our friends?
Nothng good will come from this because the intentions are not good
stability, fucken-eh, ha....
Valerie was the one who did the deal. Kerry was the poster boy
Awhile back I heard someone shot that boy but it turns out he really is too dumb to chew gum and ride a bike at the same time.
Yes. The story is, his "bike accident" overseas was actually an assassination attempt by ISIS. He got shot.
As the US geopolitical balance moves away from supporting SUNNI states; considered more dangerous as the hard underbelly of fundamentalist challenge gains traction against traditional petromoarchy power in the region; it reverts to "nomalizing" the Shia Ayatollah state, whose resilience has changed the ME geo political balance after 40 years of western ostracism.
We now have the UNKNOWN fall-out this will generate in the regional balance of OIL +ARMS bazar Middle East. Still the biggest hot spot on earth; although there is now more competition coming from aspiring regions to break the hold of Pax Americana 70 year gridlock on the world. You can see that all continents now are moving to change regional power balances; and none of it favours a lasting hold of USA on any region of the globe.
What does it do for the OIL game?
One thing is for sure, the role of the US 7 sisters is now shrinking fast in the % of world reserves they control and operate; to the benefit of National energy behemoths in Russia, China Iran etc.
Expect fossil energy to get more and more tied in with national and regional geo political plays.
The future now has to depend on first world going to renewables and making it grid sustainable both in terms of flux and in terms of transport over long distances.
Lets go to a new paradigm !
On a more positive note, at least energy demands will be reduced due to the number of "glow in the dark" cities soon to populate the earth, not to mention the reduced population in general. Progressives should be pleased.
taking your positive
ORA, ha, only 7.2 billion on the demand side of a limited earth bioshere.
what the fuck could NOT work out.
water, food
digital fiat
debt
math
monsantoized, 3 crop diversity
ha...
Well, I guess if you were intent on thinning the herd, it might make sense to incentivize socialist useless eaters and religious extremists into a common population. Honey trap?
How long can they survive if they are waiting for government or their God to save them?
kinda hard to find God when you are a secular humanist..... Perhaps they pray to the kardashians...
putin regime will suffer from this.
There fixed it for you...
US doesn't have much choice. Sanctions will soon have little effect as Iran has allied with China and Russia and trade is now being done in local currencies.
If that were true, why would Iran refute everything they have said publicly with this agreement?
not to mention the primary weapon of sanctions, access to SWIFT, will mean much less once the russian/chinese alternative is up and running
"But the biggest hurdle for implementation will be the US itself, where a vocal Israeli-controlled Congress has said it would fight the deal"
A typo on your part Tyler, it's O.K. we all make 'em...I corrected it for ya anyway.
Obama can sleep better now that he's had his Chamberlain moment.
at least other golfers can take his tee time this morning at Andrews Air Force base golf courses.
And he was up early today. I hope it doesn't throw off his game.
Nah - his mental trick is to think of Reggie.
Like the GUV in Blazing Saddles - just think of your secretary, Ms Stein. Oh, that's it - in the hole.
The real axis of evil is USA/UK/Israel. always has been.
Iran hasn't attacked anyone in 250 years. but the USA shot down their airliner killing 300 innocent people.
Iran should never sign a deal with the USA. They are NEVER to be trusted . Yanks are backstabbing sons of bitches.
Because the USA is controlled by ZioNazi Jews.
And that son of a bitch Netanyahu says this deal is a 'license to kill''. That is rich coming from the biggest racist, genocidal psychopath on the planet .
Well we seem to be trying to withdraw from the world stage.
Let's us go back to our continental sized Island nation.
Withdraw from the German and European bases.
Withdraw from the Asian and Pan pacific bases.
The Netherlands and Brussels should be able to handle things.
Meanwhile we can concentrate on our Manufacturing, Immigration and very snarky left feelings.
See ya again in 50 years, serfs or more likely infidels..
What you don't get and never will is that we don't want or need you here. America creates bogeymen so that they can play their protection racket game.
You mean Smeadly Butler was right?
The real axis of evil is USA/UK/Israel. always has been.
Iran hasn't attacked anyone in 250 years. but the USA shot down their airliner killing 300 innocent people.
Iran should never sign a deal with the USA. They are NEVER to be trusted . Yanks are backstabbing sons of bitches.
Because the USA is controlled by ZioNazi Jews.
And that son of a bitch Netanyahu says this deal is a 'license to kill''. That is rich coming from the biggest racist, genocidal psychopath on the planet .
Not to in anyway defend America's actions but Iran has plenty of skeletons rattling around. They have trained, funded and supplied some pretty nasty players for years. Iran is not a country that will enter into open warfare if they can help it. Their approach is much more subtle.
It is sad that we live in world where there are no good players. we should focus on fixing our government while NOT turning a blind eye to the intentions of others. We have NO friends.
Funding and supporting Hezbollah against the ZioNazis is a righteous thing to do.
America is the master of proxy wars, sonny.
right.
there's a padded cell calling your name somewhere loon.
As much as I don't like the 'style' of Dutchboys posts, which part of that post do you infer makes him a 'loon'?
Is it ...
a) The U.S. didn't shoot down an Iranian passenger jet.
b) The U.S.gov aren't backstabbers.
c) Netanyahoo isn't a genocidal phsychopath.
d) None of the above.
e) That's what my masters in Tel Aviv told me to say, and are paying me 5 groats (Shekels, whatever backward currency 'They' use) an hour to post.
Jughead=shit for brains fuckhead.
Very articulate....you add so much to every conversation.
Thank you. there are not enough vile expletives in the universe to describe morons like him and others here.
http://www.thesaurus.com/Roget-Alpha-Index.html
That's only Engish.
Many of us comprende other languages, like Ebonics.
good time to start a new career as a UN nuc-u-lar weapons inspector.
Especially if you are Muslim.
Deals were made to be broken
wacthed the speech. He nailed it. If you have to go to texas mr president just skip the MIC, just make sure timmay settles up with the IRS before you come home.
And remember it is OK for a Muslim to lie to an infidel....
And remember it is OK for a Jew to lie to a Goyim....
Fixed it for you Kikeroach pig boy
You might also want to look into the role of abrogation in the Muslim faith.
Jews didn't invent lying. If you haven't noticed, no one believes anyone anymore, and rightly so.
Muslims, Jews, Christers. there are liars everywhere. Fuck religion
It is all fun and games until they enrich istopes with a war provisioning tax code.
I think somebody should make money off of this. Or not.
And those loaded with delusions and hate. Religion can provide a focusing lens for it, but as you well prove, it can exist from without.
I see the shopping cart madman is out screaming at the pigeons again.
He really gets cranky with a full load in his Depends.
So how old where you when you're dad walked out on your mom?
Haha.
You can't take someone who collects Social Security from the US and then complains about his feeder very seriously.
He's just that crazy shopping cart guy that wanders around ZH defecating on the sidewalk.
I say sign the deal and walk away. If the Mideast is determined to turn itself into an uninhabitable hot radioactive-glowing zone, let it; a positive outcome would be that conservation of resources will suddenly take a front row seat...
http://iranprimer.usip.org/resource/irans-ballistic-missile-program
They got some range and the ability to go to the net.
I'm relieved that after 20 years of Iran being "a few months or a few weeks" away from building a bomb, that this nightmare can finally end.
Just to be the contrarian here, maybe the fact that they didn't get the bomb meant the sanctions were working???
ZH has an interesting mix of posters but there seems to be a split between those who have no problem with Iran having nukes and those who think they never wanted them.
I find myself in the middle. I think they want them as every other country does if they feel they can "afford" them, and I think sanctions have slowed them from doing so. If not, why did Iran haggle so long over a non-issue? They have suffered some pretty severe sanctions for nothing otherwise. And they have spent a considerable amount of their capital to develop nuclear technologies that they could easily have purchased more economically by selling their oil and buying nuclear power. They have been offered virtually free nuclear energy if they would abandon their refining technologies. Like North Korea, they have been offered almost everything free if they would give up ambitions they claim they do not have. It doesn't make sense....unless they are lying....
I am of the opinion iran is a sovereign nation and us has no business telling them what they can and cannot do. And fuck obama in the ass with a chainsaw
What woudl make the world love the USA is if America vapourized Israel and Saudi Arabia.
The psychopaths in Israel are going ballistic
Fuck those Jew pig genocidal lying ,thieving PIGS
Probably the real deal. MIC needs moar war. Jewistan finally does some heavy lifting.
Iran stood up to DC and DC liked it. wonder why? perhaps the elite think they can deal with Iran's Central Bank and change the culture there to debt zomby consumers..the Mulla's are confused they got a deal and now are thinking "they can't be that stupid", sorry but yes DC is that stupid. and the shia military just got the ok to wipe out ISIS. Sunni are shitting bricks the age old enemy has won again and their necks are next to be lopped off.
The Mullahs don't really run the country. They are sort of compartmentalized off as it were. The Revoultionary Guard run the country. They could kill all the mullahs in a few hours. Most from the Shah period are all keeling over at an alarming rate.
Anyone worked out when Iran gets free access to its $100B plus in the Western banks?
The Iranians have never done anything to me to deserve the ignominy of sanctions and the humiliation of getting our permission to deal with the defence of their nation as they see fit against two batshit crazy regimes: Israel & Saudi Arabia. These so-called allies are proven thieves and criminals involved in usurping our media, govt institutions & instigating terrorism - if it wasn't for them we'd be richer and safer.
>>two batshit crazy regimes
that's pretty funny you don't actually have Iran in this category. there's a funny farm somewhere for you.
Iran is taking their 100 billion frozen money and buying Greece.
I would never sign any deal with a bunch of Americunts who shot down my airliner killing 300 innocent people
USA is never to be trusted . EVER., biggest liars, thieves and warmongers on the planet.
Iran doesn't need nukes. Never has. They have enough conventional fire power to take out Israel within 24 hours..
Right. Thats why so many other nations have struggled to have nukes. North Korea likes them because it makes them feel special. Certainly thankful you are not making policy. At least you should feel well at home...
"The occupiers deported the majority of the country's Jews to Nazi concentration camps, with the cooperation of the Dutch police and civil service. In fact, the Netherlands saw one of the highest levels of collaboration during the Holocaust of any occupied country. As a result about 75% of the country's Jewish population were killed during the conflict; a much higher percentage than comparable countries, like Belgium and France"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands_in_World_War_II
Explains a lot.
Right and they are still at it by supporting the NeoNazis in Kiev who shot down MH17. Don't think we aren't letting the ZioNazi Dutch govt know about it.
But your people were so effective at eliminating your hated Jews, I find it confusing you express so much hatred for the Nazi's.
Is it that they proved ultimately ineffective?
You seem very content with millions of people dying if they are not like thinking to you. I would suggest that tyrannical power is the only tool that meets your ends.
You got a lot of hate in you, but don't worry, its a quiet popular theme right now.
I might be jumping into the pot here, but re-reading Dutchboy's posts I don't see him mentioning 'The Jews'...Israe-hell yes, but not 'The Jews'..??
My apologies everyone, I just read further down and he does in fact demonize ALL Jews. Sorry, Dutchboy, you're on your own.
Three down-arrows for that post Dutchboy, I didn't realise the Azov battalion could access ZH from their frontline positions!!
I don't think you are Dutch at all.
Plus, you seem to repeat yourself alot. Maybe if you repeat yourself alot and yell while doing it people will believe you.
Born in NL in 1946 and immigrated to USA in 1951. Left USA in 1989 and never been back to live since.
Anything in there about iran having to sell oil in dollars?
I think Iran is reasonable country. Of course I don't like their attack on civil rights and freedoms, but they are not worst of the kind out there.
Your buddies in Saudi Arabia and Israel make Iran look like choir boys.
If one"believes" strongly enough, nothing is out of bounds.
Nothing to do with belief, sonny. Have you ever been to Iran? I have ,, twice on business in 2003-2004.
You can keep ''believing'' FOXCNNABCCBSNBC and the lying US govt but I have REAL experience in that region.
Male prostitution is a pretty risky business over there.
Glad to see you made it back alive.
No potatoes in iran newsdouche
I have a friend from Iran. He says it is a very corrupt place and near immpossible to have a business. He came to the US and his brother to France to have a better life. Now all he complains about is the taxes. His son is a doctor, but we learned recently that Maurice is gay. Oh well, it's an interesting world.
PS. He had an interesting time when he built his house using illegal labor. One illegal shot his hand into a ceiling rafter with a nail gun y accident, another crashed his van and cost him about $5,000 in small claims court after he fled, and another threatend to burn his house down if he didn't pay more money.
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Seems to me that Canada is colluding with oil companies to raise the retail price of gas to support domestic producers and underpin the federal budget deficit on the backs of comsumers and at the same time produce numbers suggesting that inflation is anything but 10+. Gas is now just pennies below our all time high and the exchange rate does not justify current prices.
Looks like full on collapse of the economy is upon us. Hyper will become a much used word in canadian finacial news headlines very soon.
You think the Useless Snakes and Israhell's goal of global hegemony will change because of this deal?
Watch for false flags pinned on Iran.
USA/UK/Israel, Masters of Deceit and Manipulation.
Iran made big mistake signing this deal.
You think the Useless Snakes and Israhell's goal of global hegemony will change because of this deal?
Watch for false flags pinned on Iran.
USA/UK/Israel, Masters of Deceit and Manipulation.
Iran made big mistake signing this deal.
Bibi NuttyYahoo ''this deal is a license to kill''
Talk about PROJECTION!!
This SOB and the chosenite psychopaths of Israel are the biggest thieves and genocial maniacs on the planet and all blessed by the USA.
Worst thing since sliced Korea.
I agree, Iran made big mistake dealing with the Devil.
There is plenty of evidence that USA/Israel is behind ISIS while saying they are fighting ISIS.
ISIS fighters getting treatment in Israel hospitals.
Black ISIS flags being made in Israel.
John McCain meeting with ISIS members.
etc etc etc.
This is a good watch
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2xtumy_rt-crosstalk-chaos-theory-13-ju...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fbd_1436828790
I am glad for Iran and slap right into Netanyahu`s dirty face. If US need another practice target, there is always Saudi Arabia...
Where's the part about unfettered inspections???
Iran is a member of the NPPT
Israel who HAS nukes is NOT and in fact commits genoicide and theft on a daily basis.
Where are the inspections on Israel?
Iran is a member of the NPPT
Israel who HAS nukes is NOT and in fact commits genoicide and theft on a daily basis.
Where are the inspections on Israel?
The West has a rich heritage of fucking over Iran
1953 overthrew the democratically elected President of Iran (Mossadegh) and installed the murderous dictator , the Shah. and took over Iran's oil fields.
When the people finally rose up and overthrew the murderous dictator, and kicked out the Western criminals, the USA tried to say they were the ''victims'' and that Iran was at fault.
Then the West as an act of vengeance against Iran, shot down a civilian Airbus carrying 300 innocent Iranians and had the gall to call it ''a mistake'/
BULLSHIT!!!!!!!! America has killed well over 10 million INNOCENT people around the globe since 1960.
This is FACT.
Man, you are an angry one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QLf8c3TA2I
We should take up a collection to send him to Gaza.
Maybe he'll stand in front of a bulldozer.
Hey you punk ass trailer park trash son of a crack whore. I bet you cheer when Palestinians kids are butchered and their homes destroyed.
You are pure filth and I dare you to come here and tell me that to my face.
That's the spirit!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZF9FMAp0tE
It wasn't no picnic growing up in the dingle in Boston in the 1970's.
How did you get so JADED?
Altarboy?
As much as I don't like your style of posting Dutchboy, everything you said there was a FACT, I take it from all the down arrows and derogatory comments you're attracting the Tel Aviv paid Trolls are out in force tonight.
They must be pissed that Uncle Sams found a new kid in the playground to play with.
Diddums...
Lots of truth to that, but that still does not justify giving nukes to the Ayatollahs. Adding another error to the very long list of foreign policy mistakes will not be in any way helpful.
Yawn...
It's not exactly unexpected. The Shia and Americans have been camping out together near Ramadi for some time. The US has been doing all the bumbing, and an invigorated Shia seem to fight better with US trainers in their rear.
Is it not now time to rehabilitate Syrian leader Assbad le Badass in the fight against ISIS?
No word on most important aspect of deal---inspections of not only all acknowledged nuclear facilities but all miltary sites where centrifuges could contnue working.
And also total inspection of Israels; nukes.
Iran hasn't attacked or invaded anyone in 250 years but the USA/Israel has committed numerous wars of aggression.
Take that and put it in your pipe and smoke it, retard!!
We have just green-lighted the Israeli attacks on Iran...
And what kind of treaty can be rejected by the Senate - then vetoed by the President? What did Congress agree to in that treaty legislation?
If Israel attacks Iran that will be the end of Israel. No nukes needed.
If Israel does not attack Iran, that will be the end of Israel.
The first Muslim President throws power to the terrorists.