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Tsipras Says Will Be Difficult To Remain In Power As More Than Half Of Syriza Slam Deal

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Update: As noted below, Greek PM Alexis Tsipras faces a party rebellion ahead of today's vote in parliament. According to multiple reports, more than half of Syriza lawmakers have indicated they will vote against the deal, leaving Tsipras to depend on opposition support to pass the new term sheet and throwing the future of Greek politics into question. As Bloomberg notes, the best case scenario will find Tsipras presiding over a minority government with the help of opposition parties. As for the worst case (for Tsipras anyway), here's Reuters:

  • TSIPRAS TELLS LAWMAKERS IT WILL BE DIFFICULT TO REMAIN AS PRIME MINISTER WITHOUT THEIR SUPPORT: GOVT SOURCE

The complete preview of the Greek parliament vote:

On Tuesday, in "Complete Humiliation: Greek Parliament Pressed To ‘Approve’ German 'Coup'", we said that every lawmaker in Athens is now fully aware of the fact that what has happened to Greece is nothing short of a ruthless political coup executed by Germany. 

Today, the Greek parliament is being asked to legislate away its sovereignty in exchange for a bridge loan and a third program that should allow the country to remain in the euro, stave off the complete collapse of the banking sector, and prevent the country from sliding further into depression than it already is.

That said, it’s a Faustian bargain. The trade off looks like this: "No" means a lot of pain now and recovery later; "Yes" means less pain now but no hope of recovery ever. 

And although the bailout will likely go through, the divisions within Syriza betray the true extent to which Germany has managed to effect political change in Greece by keeping a tight grip on the purse strings. Indeed, some reports suggest that nearly half of the party is now calling for a “no” vote.

Here’s Reuters with more color on the impending vote:

Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras battled to win lawmakers' approval on Wednesday for a bailout deal to keep Greece in the euro, while the country's creditors, pressed by the IMF to provide massive debt relief, struggled to agree a financial lifeline.

 

Having reluctantly conceded to negotiating a third bailout from international lenders on stringent terms, Tsipras must face down a rebellion in his anti-austerity Syriza party to push sweeping pro-market reforms and spending cuts through parliament.

 

"It's a difficult deal, a deal for which only time will show if it is economically viable," his finance minister, Euclid Tsakalotos, told lawmakers during a debate on reforms.

 

Dozens of MPs, including senior Syriza figures and the government's junior coalition partner, may partially or fully reject the bailout, forcing Tsipras to rely on pro-European opposition lawmakers to carry the vote, which is expected after midnight.

 

A snap election could follow if the prime minister's majority collapses, and in an early sign of trouble in store, the deputy finance minister abruptly submitted her resignation and the energy minister said he would not back the deal.

 

"The choice between a bailout or catastrophe is a choice made in the face of terror," Panagiotis Lafazanis, who heads the far-left flank of Syriza, told reporters.

And here's some further color from Bloomberg:

The toughest conditions ever attached to a Greek loan agreement could sail easily through Greece’s turbulent parliament when a vote is held Wednesday, even as widespread defections from Alexis Tsipras’s governing coalition threaten his government.


That’s because Greece’s main opposition political parties, conservative New Democracy, centrist To Potami and Socialist Pasok, have united in supporting the sweeping reform agenda that is a prerequisite to keeping the country in the euro.


Tsipras had already won the parliament’s nod to negotiate a deal in return for austerity measures before he left for Brussels. The government’s proposal secured an overwhelming 251 votes in Greece’s 300-seat chamber Saturday, even without the backing more than a dozen lawmakers from Tsipras’s Coalition of the Radical Left, or Syriza, party.


Greece must hold a similar vote by Wednesday to enact the first set of reforms demanded by its creditors as a sign of rebuilding trust after six months of often acrimonious talks. While more members of Tsipras’s Syriza party are threatening to defect, a look at the numbers shows that Greece may escape this time the cliffhanger of past bailout votes.


Tsipras’s coalition government commands 149 seats in parliament held by Syriza lawmakers and another 13 seats held by members of right-wing Independent Greeks, the junior coalition partner. Their combined 12-seat majority evaporated Saturday, when 17 lawmakers from Syriza refused to back Tsipras’s proposals to creditors and may be eroded further if another 15 Syriza lawmakers, who said they wouldn’t consent to further austerity, also vote against the package Wednesday.


Tsipras may not be able to rely either on the backing of his junior partner, after Independent Greeks’ leader Panos Kammenos wrote on twitter “enough is enough,” once the creditors’ demands became known. Kammenos said Tuesday he would only vote for measures already approved by the Greek parliament. If all of Kammenos’s lawmakers vote against the deal, and there are no more defections from Syriza, the ruling coalition may be left with the support of just over 100 lawmakers.


Still, unless a full scale mutiny against Tsipras unfolds within Syriza, any further defections could be more than offset by the combined 106 votes of the three opposition parties that fully support the measures, ensuring a majority of over 200 votes or two thirds of the chamber. A simple majority of 151 votes or over is required for the measures to pass.

The question then, seems to be what happens next. That is, if Tsipras is forced to rely on Syriza's opposition to pass the bailout package, it's as yet unclear what that will mean for the embattled PM's political capital and for the future of politics in Greece. 

On Tuesday, a government official told Reuters that Tsipras would not resign following the vote meaning, to quote Bloomberg again, he will be forced to "preside over a minority government with the help of opposition parties [on the way to] implementing the very austerity [he] came to power to abolish." 

And that folks, is "democracy", EMU style.

 

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Wed, 07/15/2015 - 09:23 | 6314845 HonkyShogun
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People still think voting matters? Ha!

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 09:31 | 6314882 Ignatius
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You don't have to control the people, just co-opt the leadership.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 09:33 | 6314894 UndergroundPost
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This is the one vote that does matter. NO = No goodies from Troika, No easy time ahead, No EU currency.. but NO Slavery to Europe.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 10:09 | 6315047 Ghordius
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or a grudging, small-voice "yes" to further funds, and then a "lame duck" Prime Minister not able to really do anything for a while, particularly reforms and measures to increase the efficiency of the Greek State, with his "majority" against them. leading, possibly, to a new coalition (with critics calling for a coup, of course) or new elections

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 10:50 | 6315226 NoDebt
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I think I have the cadence of this march by now.  The idea is to see who blows up this new "deal" first.  Internal revolt from within Syriza/Greece leading to the bailout's failure OR... external revolt within the Troika (IMF) leading to the bailout's failure.

Whichever side falls over first gets the blame.  Then the real wailing and gnashing of teeth begins.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 12:20 | 6315669 cougar_w
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A new and more violent version of "Kick the Can"

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 12:40 | 6315776 Winston Churchill
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I think this is 'kick the grenade", or Irish pass the parcel..

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 12:49 | 6315815 BaBaBouy
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""Tsipras Says Will Be Difficult To Remain In Power As More Than Half Of Syriza Slam Deal""

WHAT Fucking Drugs Is This Fecker On ?????????

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 13:03 | 6315874 phoolish
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This way he can take his position at GS quicker.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 13:13 | 6315913 bigkahuna
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Germany is going to come in and claw back every euro they can from you guys if you don't default. You fools must be voting for this "bailout" because you think that you can just siphon more euros off of the EU. It is gonna be different, you are going to be treated as dogs after this "bailout" as Germany extracts everything they can from you. Too bad you greedy asses (politicians) cannot see this.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 13:22 | 6315964 knukles
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These people are fucking crazy .... the whole bunch

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 13:33 | 6316028 bigkahuna
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Indeed they are - we'll all be very lucky if this does not somehow kick off a war.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 14:09 | 6316244 Carl Spackler
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Good news:

Nobody in Europe has a military large and potent enough to kick off a war without stretching itself way too thin both economically and militarily...right now.

That include those pesky, but poor Russians.  MOreover, the Russian demographics (i.e., young men) are so poor, that their potential militarily size grows smaller by the moment.

 

 

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 14:18 | 6316288 Winston Churchill
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Don't know any Russian women do you ?

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 14:39 | 6316360 Government need...
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They could simply skip the 'conventional war' option and go straight to NBC.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 16:37 | 6316877 garcam123
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Arrest any Trioka members or any of their representatives. Burn the central bank arrest ALL past wealthy politicians, sieze thir wealth and property.  Tell Germany and the US to go fuck themselves and tell Putin to fuck off.

Arm your people and get ready to stand, like a true Human People and defend your country.

Other real people will support you and do new business with you!

 

Have courage.....burn the banks, arrest the elite.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 13:38 | 6316007 mtl4
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Here's what the greek people that are finally starting to rally in numbers want to say to their politicians who are voting them into the financial abyss.......

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEviN8LGErA

 

Nice touch too that Varoufakis, the only one who actually had the slightest clue of what was going on had to resign due to EU thuggery.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 12:41 | 6315785 KnuckleDragger-X
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ND, what we have here is a full retard contest and the competition is fierce.......

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 10:13 | 6315065 SafelyGraze
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modest proposal:

for the Sake of Efficiency and rightDecisionMaking, the GreekenPeople will to allow the EuroSovereign to conduct the Votings on their Behalf*

hugs,
King George

*Behalfen

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 10:23 | 6315114 Mark Urbo
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If the Greeks don't riot now...

..they never will - they might as well start speaking German.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 12:23 | 6315677 cougar_w
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To your point speaking German would make it easier to get a job there waiting table. Being able to send euros home to the starving family would probably be the only upside to staying in the EMU.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 11:44 | 6315471 Stumpy4516
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If the vote by the Greek parties is yes - that tells you all you need to know about the situation within Greece.

If the vote is yes and the EU also votes yes then that is the end of Greece.  It will not matter if there is discord within the various Greek parties.  At that point the only way to ever change this is through a violent revolution, forming a new govt that declares this agreement void and then exits the EU.

 

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 09:46 | 6314951 SmackDaddy
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commies demanding free shit at the ballot box is not "voting"

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 10:53 | 6315222 Lea
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"commies demanding free shit at the ballot box is not "voting""

Precisely, they are not commies. They are liberals, and that's the opposite of commies. Don't be misled by the word "left". In the USA, whatever passes for left has nothing to do with anything even vaguely recognizable as such. And that has spilled over to Europe. Today, all we have are liberals.
There are no "commies" anymore in the USA or EU.

Real Commies demanding "free shit":
https://makinghistoryatmacquarie.wordpress.com/author/jackieanngrant/

 

 

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 11:10 | 6315310 NihilistZero
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They. Are. Not. Fucking. Liberals.

For the umpteenth time. Thomas Jefferson was a liberal. JFK was a liberal. God damn Calvin Coolidge was liberal. Liberalism has nothing to do with big government fascism or communism.

Just because Rush Limbaugh has tried to change the definition of the word doesn't make it any less stupid to use it incorrectly.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 11:29 | 6315372 Lea
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"Thomas Jefferson was a liberal. JFK was a liberal. God damn Calvin Coolidge was liberal."

And Tsipras is a liberal.
Or maybe you think the only liberals on Earth are US presidents?

Reminder for the thick: Liberalism was a EUROPEAN invention. From its beginnings in the 18th century, it had a left wing and a right wing.

Nothing to do with commies, who are anti-liberal and represented precisely its antidote.

Forget Rush Limbaugh and read Karl Marx.
Have a good day.

 

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 11:30 | 6315417 falconflight
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Classical Liberalism is anti statist, pro individual...none who claim that nomenclature or the new and improved Progressive today is even remotely pro individual liberty.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 13:44 | 6316089 BarkingCat
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Exactly. 

The root of that word is derived from liberty.

How is any statist pro liberty. They are the opposite.

 

Also, I seriously doubt if Rush is responsible for that word being twisted.

He only has had continued the misuse through ignorance.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 11:33 | 6315431 falconflight
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Kennedy wasn't a Liberal, he was a Progressive.  Coolidge was far more of the classical Liberal bent than JFK.  Remember Kennedy is the POTUS that gave unions via EO their stranglehold on the bureaucracy...hence extraordinary influence of the pols who feed them taxpayer sweat and flesh.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 12:54 | 6315823 NihilistZero
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Kennedy significantly cut taxes and took on the MIC, to call him a progressive is a massive stretch.  His brothers are a different story...  IMHO he was growing as a president and was moving away from the admittedly shit tendencies of his old money family.  That and the mafia blow back is what likely got him killed.  So he did pay a price for getting in bed with the Unions and through them organized crime.  I think Kennedy saw what Goldwater was bringing to the table and was moving in his direction.  Goldwater was really looking forward to debating and running against Kennedy as a friend.  Might be the last time their truly was a "loyal opposition" in this country.

And to be fair you are correct on the Democrats perverting the definition before Limbaugh and his ilk helped make it acid.  That said, the word still means what it means as far as the dictionary goes and it irritates the fuck out of me when twits won't acknowledge that.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 13:47 | 6316106 BarkingCat
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I keep correcting my friends, but they keep reverting back to it.

Maybe they are not as smart as I require for friends.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 11:41 | 6315462 falconflight
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I up arrowed your post, but really grudgingly, considering your Rush comment.  The Democratic Party perverted the meaning of Liberal decades ago, and now that Liberalism has been so polluted as a term, the Democratic Party now prefers the term Progressive.  Limbaugh certainly isn't responsible for the Dems use and perversion of the word and ideology.  BTW, I've listened to Limbaugh all the way back to when he had a show on WABC, NYC before he was famous.  I was a DemDim at the time, but still listened to him.  He certainly understands the difference between classical liberalism and the perverted ideology it has become.  BTW, preemptively, he's NOT a GOP shill or promoter of said Progressive (liberal) organization.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 12:25 | 6315692 cougar_w
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Do not come to ZH and blaspeme the Saint Limbaugh. It makes Baby Jay-Z cry.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 11:27 | 6315400 falconflight
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They are most assuredly neo-marxists (Plenty enough Communists).  Just peruse Syriza's web pages.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 11:47 | 6315454 Lea
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"They are most assuredly neo-marxists (Plenty enough Communists).  Just peruse Syriza's web pages."

Who would think I am on Zerohedge, where people have supposedly perked up to the fact politicians lie?
In Europe, if you want voters, you say you're left wing, a neo-marxist, etc. Europe loves the left wing. So, as a result, gullible Americans think France's Hollande, Spain's Rajoy or Greece's Tsipras are commies or something of the sort.
They are LIBERAL left-wing. That's the left side of the business party, just like in the USA.

Europe's socialist parties = US Democratic party (with some nice names like Marx thrown in to please the uneducated masses and look like you mean it. Come-on!)

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 11:51 | 6315504 falconflight
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Like I said, go read Syriza's various web pages.  Socialism is not the child of Karl Marx's Treatise?!  Heavens, my Master of Political Science (Comparative political systems) and 30 years of more important education (reading) has failed me to even overcome a Third-Grade (US) primer.

Maybe you might consider reading at least Adam Smith's "Wealth of Nations" to learn what Liberalism meant.  Progressives (US) like Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, FDR, and the DemPublican party (US) perverted its meaning beyond recognition.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 12:01 | 6315562 falconflight
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Left/Right is a false political continuum, that I only learned after my so called "education."  Both are Statists...just like the Fascists (Right) and Communists (Left)...the differences aren't enough to matter when the individual by definition to either ideology (Both Socialist actually) is a cancer to the 'greater good,' the collective, the nation, the society ect.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 12:39 | 6315751 Lea
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"Socialism is not the child of Karl Marx's Treatise?! "

Ahem... again, calling yourself a socialist doesn't mean you are one. Mainly here in Europe where they have a most Orwellian use of the word.

"Heavens, my Master of Political Science"

You have a Master of political science and you don't even know that political labels can be misleading?
And you don't even know the difference between fascism (the rule of private corporations through the military and a police State) and socialism, the rule of the proletarians though State control and the banning of all private business?

What do you learn in US Political Science, Lego building?????

I throw up my hands in despair...

 

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 14:20 | 6316293 BarkingCat
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The point he was making is that both fascism and socialism strip individuals of liberty. 

Both suck for freedom. Their difference is in how the economy functions.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 10:03 | 6315017 Perimetr
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One of the EU requirements for the "bailout"

 

A new national anthym

 

"DEUTSCHLAND UBER ALLES"

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 13:00 | 6315864 zerocash
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Dieselboom visits Athens and lays down the terms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Jm2R0On_Uw

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 14:29 | 6316319 Perimetr
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He has the private Swiss bank account set up . . . so why worry?

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 09:26 | 6314862 ZippyBananaPants
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Sum Ting Wong

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 09:26 | 6314863 Philo Beddoe
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Tspiras was WT7ed....just a matter of time. 

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 09:36 | 6314907 HonkyShogun
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What, Larry Silverstein holds the policy on Tspiras too?

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 09:49 | 6314967 UndergroundPost
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Schauble did say: "Ziehen Sie es einfach!" regarding Greece in EU

Rough translation: "Just pull it"

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 09:29 | 6314880 JLO
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Aristotle failed!

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 09:30 | 6314883 Brazen Heist
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Democracy, what a quaint notion.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 09:34 | 6314887 Bush Baby
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I'm amazed at how much humiliation that bitch can take.

 

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 11:25 | 6315387 falconflight
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Did you forget Beohner, Mitch McConnell, Chris Christie, the entire GOP Establishment, and most of all; the memorials to Jefferson, Lee, and Davis?

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 09:36 | 6314906 Bossman1967
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All this greek drama and what we get is a 3rd 4th.... And so on and nothing changes insanity

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 09:37 | 6314910 Stud Duck
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Doesn;t this guy that just got elected, made a bunch of promises to get the votes remind you of a new on the scene, young blak man that became president of the USSA's ??

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 09:49 | 6314966 The Magus
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No

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 13:08 | 6315894 phoolish
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Well, Owebami never even tried to fight for what he claimed to be supporting while campaigning.  At least Alex gave 'em a 6 month ride.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 14:25 | 6316311 BarkingCat
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I don't speak Greek, so I cannot tell.
Does he sound like an inarticulate idiot when not reading some else's words?

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 09:41 | 6314928 Moonrajah
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After the money-changers effectively stated that indebted countries don't need no stinkin' votin' I think we can safely abolish the word democracy from our active every-day vocabulary and leave it for the history books as some sort of curio.

Some are coming to the end of the road along which the can has been kicked, and they are slowly realizing that the can turned into one mean motherfucker of a roadroller about to pave a whole country down - people and all. Soon coming to a country near you.

 

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 10:57 | 6315243 Motasaurus
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But if we abolish the word "democracy" from our vocabulary what excuse will we use to tell ourselves that bombing all those brown people was good for them?

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 12:30 | 6315725 cougar_w
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That was savage.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 13:12 | 6315916 Pure Evil
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We can always tell them we're bombing them back to freedumb and bringing them a new form of government called the Idiocracy.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 09:43 | 6314936 fowlerja
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Greece's new pledge of allegiance said in parliament this morning... I pledge allegiance to the banks of the eurozone, and to the economic union for which it stands, one union divided unequally, indivisible, with loans which do not need to be repayed, with liberty and a good life for all."

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 09:50 | 6314969 Tribulation Blues
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Take a real good look at those behind the scenes who are pulling the strings..

The Elite have had their intranet-website leaked, proving they are Satanists and that they are working with the Annunaki! The photos of the Illuminati posing with the ET's are quite astounding. http://revelation12.ca/?p=2089

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 09:51 | 6314963 RagnarRedux
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When the Greeks are tired of living under the ethno-oligarch constructed debt slavery scheme and destructive third world immigration agenda and want to protect their people, land, and heritage, otherwise known as their NATION, then they will vote for Golden Dawn. Until then, they will keep getting raped and pillaged by the same ethno-clique and their hordes.

Others are coming to an age old realization. "TRUTH Is The New Hate-Speech"

http://www.timesofisrael.com/argentine-president-evokes-anti-semitic-con...

http://nypost.com/2015/07/12/south-korean-media-slurs-antisemitism-towar...

 

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 09:59 | 6314979 SpanishGoop
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I think the Schauble will be the next PM (ruler) of Greece.

That happened in roman and  medievel times if your were loyal to the King and a country has been concered and during WWII the Nazies did something similar.

 

 

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 10:08 | 6315035 The Chief
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And lest we forget that we (USSA) did it too in Japan following the war and in Guam and Puerto Rico. We also did it in Cuba, the PI and S Korea (for a spell).

And as it is, we now rule Germany with a digital wrecking ball.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 12:34 | 6315739 cougar_w
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Might was well put Jamie Dimon on the throne.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 12:59 | 6315857 taketheredpill
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The only difference this time is that you won't see Stuka bombing the hell out of everything because they want the infrastructure intact for liquidation.

 

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 13:20 | 6315954 Pure Evil
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Not to piss on your parade, but whom will they be selling it to.

Who has the money to buy up their infrastructure.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 09:59 | 6315002 Phat Stax
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Whatever...

What became of the Samurai Bond fallout on Tuesday?

Headlines here on ZH are getting pretty hyperbolic... almost sounding desparate to remain relevant.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 10:01 | 6315009 Jtrillian
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To Tsipras... the Greek people are waiting for delivery of your right arm. 

I maintain that the people always have the power if they stand united and make their voices heard as one.  This is the one simple truth that keeps tyrants awake at night.  When the masses say "enough" and revolt, there is not stopping the will of the people. 

Ironic that this headline speaks of Syriza defectors when it was Tsipras and his party who has suddenly done the 180.  Elected officials who are defecting are the ones holding to the principles for which they were elected. 

The choice is simple... either become slaves to the Troika or leave the Euro and hit the reset button.  Where has the status quo gotten you?  Do you actually think it will get any better?  The corporate fascists have no interest in sovereignty, dignity, or quality of life.  All they care about is profit, and control.  You are nothing to them but a labor resource and a potential liability. 

 

 

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 11:19 | 6315360 NihilistZero
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The problem is the Greek military and the Oligarchy are doing pretty good and have no fucks to give. I had no idea about Greek MIC spending until yesterday. If you have a military that can actually defeat the military of the Country turning you into a debt colony and your military refuses to do it, what can you do??? Germany is the face of the oppression, but apparently Greece is being ruled by yet another Military Junta. They are exercising all their power by refusing to wield it. And I'll bet in this deal all payments and pensions to military personnel and continued funding of French and German weapons will be in full.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 11:44 | 6315472 sagitarius
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Greek Military?

You talk about NATO, eh?

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 13:25 | 6315986 Pure Evil
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If you can't get a Greek to get off his ass to go to work and pay taxes why would you expect a greek to get off his ass and fight a war.

Ze Berliner loaned the money so the greek would buy Ze Berliners military hardware. Now the greek can't afford to pay the Hun back.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 10:04 | 6315019 Sturm und Drang
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William T. Sherman. Now there's a man who knows how to deal with collateral. I say crowd-fund a clone job and bring it.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 10:04 | 6315020 CosmoJoe
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Tsipras stated that Greece was not in a position to (re)launch the drachma.  If that is truly the case, he was sitting at the poker table with a shit hand this entire time.  I am not sure why they didn't make preparations for that a long time ago.

Also, if it is the case that the majority of Greek voters wanted to remain in the EU then I have no sympathy for Greece.  When you are asking for your third bail out, of fucking course it is going to have strings attached.  That is why this entire negotiation was a farce.  If there was no Plan B by the Greek government then they were negotiating from an impossible position.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 10:34 | 6315154 Eyeroller
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I believe that making statements about relaunching the drachma was one of the last things Varoufakis did before he 'resigned'.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 10:35 | 6315161 slightlyskeptical
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Dumb fuck would have gotten the deal he wanted, if the Drachma was ready to go. This guy is clearly no leader.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 10:45 | 6315199 thor58
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You nailed it!

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 13:07 | 6315890 Mick Shrimpton
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It must be the same reason why a country like Nigeria with billions in oil revenue can't defeat Bokol Haram or Iraq isn't smart enough to hire an army of mercenaries to defeat ISIS.  I guess most of the world just doesn't have any common sense.  Makes you wonder about the fate of humanity.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 10:11 | 6315054 Winston of Oceania
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When will you socialist humps get it through your thick skulls that Germany does NOT want Greece in the Euro simply because they are as untrustworthy as Gypsies. I do NOT refer to Rumanians as Gypsies but I do compare the Greeks who support the black markets so as to not pay for what they beg as equals. Hopefully the Greeks will get the point...

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 13:30 | 6316012 Pure Evil
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Now you're being just a little harsh. No need to call a spade a spade when you can come right out and call him a nigga.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 10:12 | 6315057 45North1
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Only fitting that Democracy's Birth Place be its Death Bed also....

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 10:12 | 6315061 Debugas
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new episode in the greece drama - Syriza splits and calls for new elections ...

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 10:37 | 6315167 Eyeroller
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And then the Troika would have to deal with Varoufakis, maybe? That would be fun to watch!

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 10:25 | 6315122 mastersnark
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Should've voted Golden Dawn, eh?

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 10:29 | 6315135 teslaberry
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if a greek leftist fails to assasinate tsipras, then the greeks get what they deserve.

if they don't fight now on their feet, they will fight while starving and dying on their backs.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 11:21 | 6315368 falconflight
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"... he will be forced to "preside over a minority government with the help of opposition parties..." 

Like Obama's presiding over everything in life with the help of the so called GOP opposition party?  Hey, your post is even more relevant in the "homeland."

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 11:43 | 6315468 mog
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Why the Greeks haven't already attacked parliament and burnt it to the ground is beyond me.

The partisans of 1940 will be spinning in their graves.

They knew how to fight the third Reich - the Greeks seem to have forgotten how to fight at all.

The first act Tsipras did as Prime Minister was meant to be symbolic.

Seems he has forgotten about it too.

The two faced hypocrite.

I haven't.

Let me remind you.

He went to the site with a bunch of flowers where 200 Greeks were shot in cold blood - a deliberate slaughter - by the Nazis in reprisal.

Thats what he did.

He made a huge point of it.

A few months on and he has betrayed every one of them.

Everything they died for - to keep Greece free, sovereign and out of German domination.

Tsipras has just abjectly and treasonously surrendered the lot.

Beware Greeks bearing gifts.

Beware them bearing flowers as well.

THey are meaningless.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 11:56 | 6315531 falconflight
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Greece had its German collaborators, such as PM Rallis and others during the 1940's, and PM Tsipras is Greece's newest iteration.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 12:34 | 6315738 lolmao500
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They slam deal but they will vote for it.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 12:37 | 6315757 JimmyRainbow
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sparta or not sparta tonight

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 12:38 | 6315765 NoIdea
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Tsipras says he won't resign after this. Fine but I don't think Thatcher planned to resign as UK Prime Minister in 1990 either. Sometimes these things are out of your hands.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 12:44 | 6315802 bpj
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What a crooked world

 

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 12:45 | 6315803 bpj
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What a crooked world

 

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 12:58 | 6315853 SpanishGoop
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Update: "Fuck off already you pussy".

 

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 13:00 | 6315859 The Duke of New...
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Tsipras = Send him to the Hangman ... and hang'em high.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 13:02 | 6315869 Circle of DNA
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Greece is a Germain version of Ukraine, while Ukraine is an American version of Zimbabwe.  Whatever the western elites touch turns into shit for the rest of us.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 13:03 | 6315872 Mick Shrimpton
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I don't get it.  Tsipras rejected the same deal that was voted down last Sunday.  Now, he's trying to lobby parliament for a deal that is far worse and a certain percentage of the Syriza party favors the new deal?  Are these guys asking for a revolution or civil war?

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 13:13 | 6315918 williambanzai7
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Load them all on a jet and fly them into the Acropolis...

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 13:23 | 6315970 flysofree
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I have family in Greece. They all like the deal and can't wait for their share, then they plan to move to Germany.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 13:49 | 6316083 falak pema
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If Tsipras were not dead before the IMF's debt bomb statement, he is certainly dead now.

Being a "Saladier or a Chambermaid" of Oligarchy and crying : "Peace in our times" (we are saved), is an  act of wanton deceipt. And the Greeks know it.

Now Lady Lagarde has blown the cover. Thats as if Mussolini had told Daladier and Chamberlain : "your deal with Hitler is all cock n bull. I tell you that as his ally!"

Saladier and Chambermaid is Tsipras now, with his head now being offered to him on a plate by the vote ; something which must please Schauble, squirming after the IMF's awesome kick in his butt.

When Mutt of Greece gets side-kicked collateraly  by butt kicker of Germany you have a Mutti who sings  : Schulz, where is Schulz? Vee need another round-up of "usual suspects". Get to work Schulz-Schauble! 

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 14:13 | 6316264 Joebloinvestor
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Sounds like someone doesn't want to leave the party.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 14:18 | 6316289 markar
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Be difficult to stay in power? bwhaaa

He'll be lucky not to be Mussolinied

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 14:43 | 6316371 Government need...
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I wonder . . . has Merkel found a way to reanimate Otto Skorzeny?

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 14:41 | 6316365 Government need...
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Staying within the Euro and implementing austerity would result in quite the deflationary shock.  Plus, the Germans would split the nation's asset up and sell them for scrap.  No, no.  The only viable option is to default and return to the drachma.  The rest is playing pocket pool.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 14:59 | 6316454 Prober
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This incompetent parasite scumbag should never have been elected - the idiot greeks fucked themselves AGAIN !

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 16:18 | 6316800 Raul44
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So now I wonder if those dumbfucks in EU parliament sent them money already. I fucking said before that deal will be done but not honored!! Merkel you honorless cow!

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 16:37 | 6316871 Anunnaki
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Just like Obama. He will caucus with the other side to sell out his constituents. Maybe he'll get a Peace Prize all his own!

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 17:46 | 6317128 frankly scarlet
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Tsipras was hoping for a yes vote and now hoping he can get out like Varoufakis now that the damage has been done. If the Greek people want to get out from under the Euro they're going to have to build a new party from the ground up or just burn down their parliament building as a beginning of protest untiul they can get that party in order. Once out they will have a bloody fight but either way there will be deaths in fighting or from austerity. The Washington consensus will be mighty pissed off but with the help of Russia nd China the Greek people may make it out alive yet.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 20:48 | 6317776 talisman
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The treacherous quisling Tsipras should find it Difficult To Stay Alive
after betraying the overwhelming vote of the Greek people.

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