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White House Cuts 2015 GDP Outlook By 33%

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Despite President Obama's hubris over the 'recovery', his crowing about the jobs record, and his insistence that while "there's more to be done," everything is awesome, The White House just took the meat-cleaver to its US economic growth forecasts...cutting 2015 growth from 3% to 2%. That was not all though as their forecasts see no recession until at least 2025, unemployment under 5.0% for at least the next decade, stable inflation for 10 years, and last but not least - a 3-month T-Bill rate of over 3% within the next few years.

 

So growth is going to drop... but there'll be no rise in unemployment, rates will surge but there will be no inflation outbreak, and trend growth now appears to be just 2.3%...

 

As The Wall Street Journal reports,

The White House said it sees U.S. growth rising by just 2% this year before rebounding to 2.9% in 2016 - down from its earlier forecast of 3% growth for both 2015 and 2016 released in February - after the economy stalled during the first quarter.

 

The new estimate came Tuesday in the White House budget office’s “Mid-Session Review,” which updates the economic and budget projections it made at the beginning of the year. The new growth forecast largely reflects the current thinking among private economists.

 

The economy contracted at a 0.2% seasonally adjusted annual rate in the first quarter.

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Full report here (link)

This should make things a little awkward for Janet...

 

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Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:04 | 6317200 Bastiat
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Where will the money come from to pay up to 3% on those T-Bills?

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:06 | 6317210 PRO.223
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"no recession until at least 2025"

That's about right, it'll be that long until the depression is over.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:16 | 6317240 Wary Hanger
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So basically, on the back 9 at CAVES VALLEY, Obama looked at the numbers and made the call that the 'PROFIT TO EARNINGS' numbers didn't look too good in his expert analysis.

 

If somebody sat down & wrote a COMEDY FICTION novel on how ludicrous this society has become, NOBODY would even believe the storyline. YET HERE WE ARE!

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:24 | 6317282 cougar_w
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I tried a comedy fiction. But I couldn't make it funny and then all the fictional parts became reality anyway. So I gave up.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:44 | 6317336 XAU XAG
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A man has got to know his limitations

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:54 | 6317363 knukles
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Fuckin-A Awesomeness for Our Children's Future of Fairy Tales and Rainbow Skittles!

https://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=AwrTcXJw5KZV1aIA6EAunIl...

 

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 03:31 | 6318552 philipat
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Not a chance of any of this happening and even the "33% reduction in GDP projection" can be described as "A good start". To be achieved that would require second haalf growth of 3% which isn'r going to happen. The only thing consistent here is that there is ALWAYS going to be an economic takeoff in the second half, aka a Hockey stick forecast. That and it is also consistent with all the other lies and BS that come out of The WHite House?

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:26 | 6317289 greenskeeper carl
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'Growth contracted at a seasonally adjusted rate of .2%'

I'd like to take a look at the un- seasonally adjusted numbers, please.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 19:43 | 6317597 Handful of Dust
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Mortgage applications fall as home buyers balk

 

https://homes.yahoo.com/news/mortgage-applications-fall-home-buyers-1100...

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 19:18 | 6317491 Hohum
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That's reasonable as long as total debt growth can continue to eclipse GDP growth.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:12 | 6317242 XAU XAG
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they will print......................da money

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:22 | 6317273 cougar_w
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Fact.

And you will take .......................... da money.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:26 | 6317290 XAU XAG
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FACT

 

I only take money from clients for goods or services

 

Do not judge me by your own standards

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:30 | 6317299 cougar_w
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1) you do not know my standards at all certainly not enough to know how I might judge you or anyone else, and

2) the money will flow through the system like water through fingers, and when it comes your way by whatever route you will take it and be happy to have it and have no idea where it came from.

3) because these things were always thus and will forever be thus.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:35 | 6317309 XAU XAG
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But you assumed you know my standards

 

So you take da money to

 

So what's with the post " I will take the money" as if I was on welfare or something???

 

Try to engauge brain before posting

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 20:40 | 6317745 A Nanny Moose
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Deeee Monaaaay!!!!

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:05 | 6317209 Berspankme
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Is there anyone in the white house who understands this? A bunch of cock smoking crackheads led by that flaming faggot obama. Fuck every one of you. Burn the place down

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:13 | 6317244 Winston Churchill
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Give them a break, they ran out of napkins in that bar, but obviously not booze..

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:09 | 6317224 Shaznardickleze...
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If you think that's bad, wait for the revision.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:11 | 6317233 XAU XAG
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in 3 months time they can put a 1 in front of that 33%

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:12 | 6317238 Billy Sol Estes
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33% of .01%?

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:16 | 6317250 Jersey_Mountaineer
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33% of 1%.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:23 | 6317281 Son of Loki
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Barry's advisors cut open a chicken and the entrails showed them a GDP of 2% for 2015.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:13 | 6317243 Yen Cross
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     Even Krugman says the Fed. is making a huge mistake raising rates anytime this year.

 Paul Krugman: The Fed Is Going to Be Wrong When It Eventually Raises Rates - Bloomberg Business

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 21:59 | 6317993 JoWazzoo
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Uh Krugman is a fucking Socialist who also advocated NEGATIVE rates and Trillions in Deficist as far as the eye cee - we just owe it to ourselves in his view so it doesn't matter.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 23:15 | 6318161 cheech_wizard
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...and alien invasions.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 22:10 | 6318028 SubjectivObject
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So Klubman thinks that we should think that the potential to raise rates is real.

Go AlGos or Go Home.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:16 | 6317251 itstippy
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This is a forecast of what will be the reported GDP and employment numbers.  OK, I believe that's possible.

3% on 3-month T-Bills is highly unlikely though.  Things would get broke.

 

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:21 | 6317264 cougar_w
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But TheFed have promised to raise rates. So the report had to finger 3%. It's like atomic physics, it just happens.

Look it's all lies anyway just enjoy the unintentional humor in it.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 19:43 | 6317601 Bay Area Guy
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I posted down at the bottom that a 3% increase (the 3 month is at 0.02% as of the 13th) across the entire yield curve means additional debt service costs of $540 billion on the nominal $18 trillion national debt.

Uh, yeah. Things would break.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:16 | 6317252 Seasmoke
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So The Greatest Depression lasts until 2025. Got it.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 19:25 | 6317532 novictim
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No, they don't say it will end. It just is certain to continue to that date...

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:18 | 6317259 Jersey_Mountaineer
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Apparently no harsh winters for the next 10 years, either.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 19:35 | 6317566 GeezerGeek
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Make that 15. Scientists are now predicting the sun will take a nap and give us a mini ice age from 2030-2040. I still haven't figured out how they were allowed to suggest such a possibility given all the global warming/climate change BS we keep hearing. Unless Obama wants to claim credit for cooling the atmosphere as well as stopping the rise in sea levels.

Fri, 07/24/2015 - 12:14 | 6349326 Jersey_Mountaineer
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Yeah the sun spots have been on a decline the last decade, and whatever warming there was has leveled off the last 20.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:20 | 6317262 Gold N Glocks
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Niganomics.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:20 | 6317263 A Lunatic
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What a bunch of fucking clowns.....

 

 

I take that back, at least clowns are funny.......

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 19:40 | 6317587 EBT excepted
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dey ain' no shame bein' a clown...it be a step up ovah d'carney...

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:21 | 6317267 HowardBeale
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White House Cuts 2015 GDP Outlook By 33% 

The title of this article is probably closer to the truth--as opposed to a cut in just "growth."

 

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:22 | 6317271 kill switch
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After the SHTF what Disney will look like,,can't wait..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/07/15/abandoned-disney-world_n_780135...

 

I know it's hufpo but stay with me..

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 23:24 | 6318185 cheech_wizard
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Down arrowed for linking to huffpo...

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:23 | 6317277 Fahque Imuhnutjahb
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BREAKING NEWS!!!  In an effort to stimulate the economy the White House has issued an ultimatum to Ireland:  "All your base are belong to us", demanding that all Leprechauns, and their respective golden pots, be

surrendered forthwith!  However, there was some dissent considering gold is a barbarous relic of little value.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:27 | 6317293 cougar_w
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The the Union of Industrial Brotherhood Skittle-Shitting Unicorns AFL-CIO took exception to this plan to rely on foreign sources of imaginary wealth production, and sunk the whole thing.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 22:30 | 6318077 29.5
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North Korea also makes notice that any future profits economically resulting from the labor of modern day unicorns are considered taxable as tribute to the first known lair found on the northern Peninsula. 

 

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/11/30/north-korea-says-its-foun...

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:37 | 6317294 Winston Churchill
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The Irish don't even have anything as urgent as manyana, so forget the forthwith.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:25 | 6317285 Quantum Nucleonics
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The really big headline should be that the WH thinks long run real GDP growth is 2.3%.  That's a big haircut from the historical average.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:25 | 6317288 Yancey Ward
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Oh, you forgot to highlight the part where Obama is going to power the world with his farts.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:26 | 6317292 Ajax_USB_Port_R...
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"no recession until at least 2025" Sure! Sure!

Can't even correctly predict the US GDP one quarter in advance.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 19:00 | 6317407 Jersey_Mountaineer
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Notice that after about 5 years, they just start assuming the same numbers every year.  John Nash would be proud.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:32 | 6317301 Quantum Nucleonics
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Are these numbers before or after adjusting for hookers and blow?

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:38 | 6317317 Winston Churchill
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They were written by hookers on blow.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:43 | 6317326 Gab Timov
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nevermind

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 18:43 | 6317334 keed
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unemployment under 5% hahahhahahhahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahah.  lets see, shadowstats says about 23%, so lets say theyre lying by a reduction of about 5x the reality.  lets carry that over to the gdp.  that would work about right.  .2% Q1 contraction x 5....yep, i'd agree to that....1% contractions comin up for the next 10 years...sounds more plausible than their unadjusted numbers.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 19:20 | 6317510 novictim
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Yes, and realize that 5% unemployment is now the new 3% unemployment rate.

See, 3% uneployment has been widely considered to be what economists call "Full Employment" for going on 6 decades or more. But sometime over the last 10 years the neoliberal gang running our Federal Reserve and Treasury did a slight of hand making 5% the target.

Now, you know when you are at full employment when the wages for workers start to rise, something that has not happed for all but 2 years over the past 40+ years. 

Whether full employment is a 2.8% uneployment rate or a 3.5% unemployment rate is unimportant really since we only know we are there when the rate of pay goes up.

Four decades is a long time to work and never see a pay raise.  This is a key driver for why the consumer economy has stalled and why wealth inequality has gotten so huge.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 19:03 | 6317427 Hohum
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3 mo T-bill at 3%?  The 10y UST won't even reach 3%.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 19:10 | 6317463 Faeriedust
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Economy will be in obvious recession next year just around election time.  Neither a Bush nor a Clinton can possibly win it.

 

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 19:30 | 6317542 silverer
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No matter how much they spend, no matter how bad our foreign deals are, no matter how many productive people pack it up and leave, or look at the mess we have and just quit trying, the gov is always going to say there's going to be a rebound.  Well, if you dig up the graves of the people who worked for a living and prop them up in a chair, maybe.  Just maybe, if you weren't so busy handing out billions of dollars to every sorry sap country and individual with their hand out, maybe we would rebound.  But since gov clearly stated that this is NOT the policy, then down we go.  In fact, we already jumped off the cliff around 1983 or so, and NOBODY has tried to change course since.  The every-man-for-himself attitude rules.  Down we go.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 19:38 | 6317581 Bay Area Guy
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3 month at 3%, huh? It's currently at 0.02%.. Assuming the entire yield curve heads up by 3%, I'd be interested in how they're going to fund an additional $540 billion in interest expense.

Of course, those who control the economic numbers coming out of DC can pretty much manipulate anything they want, but that $540 billion would be a real number, year after year after year.

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 20:14 | 6317677 fowlerja
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These are all foreplay numbers..and then they let you down before you realize that this is not the real score..

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 21:07 | 6317842 bid the soldier...
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don't get excited

 a 3-month T-Bill rate of over 3% within the next few years

They will only be for sale on Uranus and Pluto

Wed, 07/15/2015 - 23:41 | 6318238 lucky and good
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Words like stagflation and slow growth may be the cornerstone of the global economy for years to come. Currencies are the "Trojan Horse" of governments, and a weapon that will be used to fleece the average citizen out of his wealth. To think those in charge of our central banks and economies have the wisdom to guide us on the path to prosperity is a bit naive.

Knowing that many of those leading us honed their skills in the noncompetitive ivory towers of academia rather than in the arena of commerce should give us pause. Even before you factor in things like hidden agendas and arrogance it would not be wise to follow them blindly. The article below explores this subject.

 http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2015/06/stagflation-and-slow-growth.html

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 05:03 | 6318602 whoisjg
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Inflation is 8%

Gov says it is 2%

Gov says growth is 2%

subtract 6%

we have -4% growth for 15 years. 

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