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Tennessee Mass Killer Linked To Islamic Terrorism

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While the rest of the world was paying attention to the sad conclusion of the Greek tragedy now in its third bailout season, the US was focused on a another tragedy playing out in the nation's heartland when in the latest mass shooting on US soil, 4 marines were killed when a gunman, since identified at Mohammod Youssuf Abdulazeez, 24, a naturalized citizen born in Kuwait, opened fire first at a military recruiting center and then at a Naval Reserve Center in Chattanooga, Tennessee in what officials have called a "brazen, brutal act of domestic terrorism."

Incidentally, the shooting took place hours before a jury found James Holmes, who killed 12 people in a Colorado theater shooting in 2012, guilty of murder.

As reported subsequently, the suspect's mother is originally from Kuwait and his father from Palestine. It is unclear when Abdulazeez came to the United States but for many years he lived with his parents in a two-story home in Hixson, a suburb of Chattanooga. He worked as an intern at Mohawk Industries Inc, a carpet manufacturer, and the Tennessee Valley Authority, which provides power to the area. He most recently worked with Global Trade Express, according to the posted resume.

According to Reuters, the suspect, seen driving an open-top Ford Mustang, is believed to have first gone to a joint military recruiting center in a strip mall and sprayed it with gunfire, riddling the glass facade with bullet holes.

"Everybody was at a standstill and as soon as he pulled away everyone scrambled trying to make sure everyone was OK," said Erica Wright, who works two doors down from the center.

The gunman then drove off to a Naval Reserve Center about 6 miles away, when around 10:45 am local time, he shot four Marines before being shot and killed in a firefight with police about half an hour later. Three others were wounded in the attacks, including a police officer reported in stable condition and a Marine.

At least three people were wounded in the attacks, including a Marine and a Navy sailor who is in critical condition, according to the hospital. One of those hurt was a police officer who was in stable condition.

According to Bill Killian, the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Tennessee, the rampage was being treated "as an act of domestic terrorism," adding that no official determination of the nature of the crime had yet been made and the Federal Bureau of Investigation has not ruled anything out.

"While it would be premature to speculate on the motives of the shooter at this time, we will conduct a thorough investigation of this tragedy and provide updates as they are available," the agency said in a statement.

According to a resume believed to have been posted online by Abdulazeez, he attended high school in a Chattanooga suburb and graduated from the University of Tennessee with an engineering degree.

"I remember him being very creative. He was a very light minded kind of individual. All his videos were always very unique and entertaining,” said Greg Raymond, 28, who worked with Abdulazeez on a high school television program.

 

“He was a really calm, smart and cool person who joked around. Like me he wasn’t very popular so we always kind of got along. He seemed like a really normal guy,” Raymond said.

The FBI said it was too early to speculate on the motive for the rampage although in a follow up report we learned that the 24 year old had blogged as recently as Monday that "life is short and bitter" and Muslims should not miss an opportunity to "submit to Allah," according to an organization that tracks extremist groups.

The SITE Intelligence Group said a July 13 post written by suspected gunman Mohammod Youssuf Abdulazeez stressed the sacrifice of the Sahaba (companions of the Prophet) “fought Jihad for the sake of Allah." Reuters could not independently verify the blog postings. Tangentially, Site Intelligence which has been most famous recently for being the first to track down and release most of ISIS' barbaric if Hollywood-style produced YouTube clips, was founded by Rita Katz who prior to her intelligence career served in the Israeli Defense Forces.

Further ties linking the shooting to terrorist Islamist elements emerged when the NYT reported that the father of a suspected gunman who killed four Marines in Chattanooga, Tennessee, on Thursday was investigated several years ago for "possible ties to a foreign terrorist organization."

Citing unnamed law enforcement officials, the paper said the gunman's father was at one point on a terrorist watch list and was questioned while on a trip overseas.

The paper quoted an official as cautioning that the investigation was several years old and had not generated any information on the son. The father was eventually removed from the watch list, the paper quoted the official as saying.

According to another, unconfirmed report, an Islamic State affiliated Twitter account tweeted about the Chattanooga military reserve center shootings by Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez just as they began.

The account has since been suspended. The time stamp reads 10:34 a.m. in our screenshot of the tweet, which we took in New York, which is in the same time zone as Chattanooga. The shootings were reported between 10 and 11 a.m.

In a statement following the shootings  Obama condemned the "heartbreaking" shooting deaths of four Marines Thursday in Tennessee, and said a full investigation is under way.

"We don't know yet all the details," Obama said. "We know that what appears to be a lone gunman carried out these attacks." The president said he wanted to extend "the deepest sympathies of the American people" to the four Marines and their families, and asked all Americans to pray for them.

And while Obama did not rush to judgment, and had no comment about what the potential next steps could be, it was roughly around this time that America's practically assured next president, Hillary Clinton, made it quite clear what the endgame of all these tragic events will likely be in the very near future:

  • CLINTON: U.S. NEEDS ANTI-PROPAGANDA POLICY TO COMBAT ISIS

What better way to fight propaganda than with even greater propaganda even if it means the deaths of countless innocent people caught in the cross fire.

 

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Thu, 07/16/2015 - 21:42 | 6321826 blackhand
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Religion of peace...

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 21:46 | 6321847 Billy the Poet
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Like Confederates?

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 21:48 | 6321856 Stuck on Zero
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He probably worshipped psychotropic prescription drugs.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 21:58 | 6321891 wee-weed up
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Obozo...  "We don't know all the facts."

Translation:   Not terrorism... and certainly not muslim terrorism.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:00 | 6321901 nmewn
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Clearly a Tea Party activist.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:05 | 6321908 wee-weed up
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CLINTON: U.S. NEEDS ANTI-PROPAGANDA POLICY TO COMBAT ISIS
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Ha! What a shameless opportunistic bitch!

Maybe she'll blame it on an anti-muslim video. (By the way, is that guy still rotting away in jail somewhere?)

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:09 | 6321943 Waylon Bits
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Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:33 | 6322010 Creepy A. Cracker
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This story is an OBVIOUS, 100%, lie.  All of this claimed "shooting" took place in a "gun free zone." 

Didn't happen.

Leftists have made it illegal...

"No guns allowed.  Yea us!"

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:34 | 6322047 Stackers
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A week or two from now we will learn how the FBI had been setting him up through a complex sting operation with confidential informants and were only days away from arresting him

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:41 | 6322085 stormsailor
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yep, your right,  because of patriot act and nsa they were on him immediately but they were waiting on him to lead them to the bigger fish.  we need more intrusive acts and more surveillance so that we can find the bigger fish faster, then this wouldn't have happened.  sarcasm tag is wide open throttle

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 23:01 | 6322159 MonetaryApostate
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I believe the worst thing that can happen here, with them playing terrorist games, is the American people take this shit seriously and get pissed off... The people organizing this stuff of course have it all planned out to draw the nations into war in the middle east; this whole Iran thing wreaks something fierce too... Got Oil?

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 02:57 | 6322549 zhandax
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"He probably worshipped psychotropic prescription drugs."

That or bad wiring.  The guy had an engineering degree and had been an intern with TVA.  If he couldn't convert that deal into a lifetime of mooching off taxpayers, some manager saw something wrong with the guy or something was distracting him.

Factor in his second target is about 5 blocks from the gas pumps at the local police fleet management station and it appears he wanted to die in the attempt.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 03:45 | 6322612 pretty bird
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Here's some news hot of the presses.  Muslims be crazy.  Word to your mother.  Suck it, Hedgers.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 04:58 | 6322664 COSMOS
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And Europe is letting these shits in by the hundreds of thousands.  Sharpen my Gladius, reform the Legions, Long Live the Republic.  SPQR. Europe for Europeans ONLY !!!! 

America for Christians only, long live the Constitution.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 04:58 | 6322666 HowdyDoody
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He was under FBI surveillance for years. Yet another one groomed and enabled by the FBI.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 06:08 | 6322716 Amish FinEng
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When are these freedom fighters going to learn?

Aim your sights at the joos, they are the ones responsible for perverting the once pristine USSA.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 06:48 | 6322769 The Alarmist
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You intolerant bastards ... this was nothing more than a self-radicalised lone-wolf domestic type, and religion has nothing to do with it, but your freedoms do.

" They" hate us for our Freedoms, and that is why they pass things like _______ (name your favourite act).

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:42 | 6322089 macholatte
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"When seconds count, the police are only minutes away."

-- Unknown

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 07:25 | 6322848 de3de8
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I wonder if that brand new 15 mustang convertible had its first payment made as likely part of the raghead's overall plan to create as much heartburn as possible on his way out. How long will it sit in evidence and what will eventually happen to it? Hopefully it's a bank taking the hit.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 23:10 | 6322202 Calmyourself
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Workplace violence ... bitches

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 23:37 | 6322260 silver_stacker
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This story is an OBVIOUS, 100%, lie. 

I agree. Whether the shooting actually took place or not, it was no doubt another staged shooting complete with paid actors llike the Charleston church shooting which were paid 29 million along with all of the other staged shootings in the USSA. This is to justify the government to take away our guns and more of our rights and allow more spying to protect us from the big bad terrorist boogeyman. Expect Obama to be on TV with a long bullshit spiel as usual to further the government agenda of sheering the sheeple some more and to expand the facist police state regime.

 

 

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Fri, 07/17/2015 - 00:19 | 6322357 Tall Tom
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Thank God for the eternal vigilance of our Gubernment overlords and peace keepers. If we had not had Jade Helm operational then this attack would not have been preven...

 

Huh...What? What do you mean? This guy got away with shooting up, not one, but two Military Locations? But...but...but..

 

Oh nevermind.

 

 

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 00:32 | 6322387 salvadordaly
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YOU HAVE GOT TO BE SHITTING ME! Not one of those Marines were armed with a pair of scissors? A RAPE WHISTLE? NOT EVEN A DESK TO HIDE UNDER? What the fuck has this country come to? Jesus give or boys a fighting chance!!!!

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 01:30 | 6322472 salvadordaly
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OK NSA JUMP ON OUT THERE AND TELL US, THE PEOPLE, THAT YOU HAVE BEEN SPYING ON, AND TELL US HOW YOU HAVE HAD THIS GUY UNDER SURVALIANCE AND YOU JUST MISSED THE WINDOW OF OPPURTUNITY TO REEL HIM IN! Whats' that you mean,,,, all the data you collected you could not predict this? WHAT THE FUCK DO I PAY YOU SO MUCH MONEY FOR? You mean, you cant do your job? EXPLAIN PLEASE, I'M Listening? UH, UH, UH, UH, Speak up bitch I can't hear you!! Justify your existance you little bitch!!! Exactly, you are like the police. When you are needed you are minutes away! I wonder why people would wnat to arm themselves? Let's think about it shall we? Rid your selves, you are useless. I for one do not feel the least bit safe because you are there. STOP WASTING MY TAX DOLLARS YOU WHORE!!

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 09:32 | 6323317 Al Bendova
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Look, you can't give weapons to just anyone.  These men would need weapons training. They would also need the weapons themselves.  Where's the military gonna get all that?  No.  It's best to have soldiers call 911.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 07:56 | 6322922 Antifaschistische
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Shouldnt congress be demanding the removal of all Islamic flags from mosques and schools?!

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 08:17 | 6322987 COSMOS
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Yep, and Americans should be demanding removal of all Muslims from the USA and shipped back to Saudi Arabia.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 11:26 | 6323832 Bunghole
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Good thing Twitter still provides us with updates from the boogeyman, ISIS.

USA, USA, USA!

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 09:51 | 6323404 Dangertime
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That doesn't fit the leftist fanatical agenda.

 

Christians must lose their businesses, and the confederate flag must go....but Islam is a religion of peace.  This is likely more of a workplace violence thing....  #LiberalLies

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 05:17 | 6322682 WtfBatman
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wait ... what happens to the US if they have an anti-propoganda policy (assuming it is an effective one)?

isn't it the same as when matter collides with anti-matter and both instantly cease to exist? finally a WMD that could threaten all thata the US stands for and is built upon ...

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:01 | 6321909 NoDebt
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That yellow sign on the door of the recruitment center says it's a gun-free zone.  No, I'm not kidding.  Obviously that doesn't apply to spraying the place down from out in the parking lot.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:59 | 6322164 Crush the cube
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That whole picture is BS, full of messages and probably a construct again.  All you have to do is grab a copy and expand it, look at the shadow of the guy on the left, in no way does it match his reflective pose.  That and the hand flash the center guy is giving, the old vulcan hand sign, we know who uses that one.  How much anyone want to bet they put star systems in the bullet patterns again.  Red, blue, yellow, and the three pillars BS again, yeah, we know who you are, at least those of us awake.  Oh, and next time don't screw up the Marines logo, your machine repeated the same pattern by mistake.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 23:14 | 6322212 GeezerGeek
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Technically, the shooter never took his weapon into the place. Next time the sign should indicate it's a bullet-free zone. I'm sure that will stop this sort of tragedy.

 

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 09:21 | 6323264 durablefaith
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Excellent Notion. Now what sign do we put up to rid the world of oligarchs, psycopaths, and secret societies?

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 00:20 | 6322359 Max Cynical
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If only that sign were at the entrance to the parking lot...this never woud have happened.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 21:59 | 6321895 ACP
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So, which flag do we ban to put an end to all the islamic violence once and for all?

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 00:38 | 6322397 palmereldritch
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The false flag

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 21:59 | 6321897 TeamDepends
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He was an ISIS agent, ISIS is funded by Langley and Mossad, therefore we have the first casualties of Jade Helm. Wake up, sleepy dreamer.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:06 | 6321927 Billy the Poet
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Not a road I venture down often but the idea is interesting. I've often thought that if the rednecks were getting uppity the Feds would hit them with a good dose of Muslim terror which would likely shame and frighten the rednecks back into the arms of Uncle Sam.  Scenarios being tested?

And as long as we're talking JH, I wonder if the Bundys have beefed up security?

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:17 | 6321975 Abitdodgie
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All I can say is it is lucky he had a muslim sounding name and that he is dead and we will never see the open coffins of the dead and they had a picture of him in orange jump suits and it took 500 police with AR15 to secure the area after the shooter was dead with constant news coverage on mockingbrd media or else I may of thought it did not happen in the real world.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:30 | 6322032 Implied Violins
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This incident is, indeed, worthy of your username.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 23:01 | 6322173 Bay of Pigs
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Look at his name. Mohammed? LOL...

Come on....what the fuck?

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 05:01 | 6322667 HowdyDoody
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He was under FBI surveillance for years. Yet another lone gunman groomed by the FBI who conveniently ends up dead.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:43 | 6322082 Buckaroo Banzai
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False flag? Not buying it. False flag shooting sprees have a number of key elements in common:

-- they happen in "safe" spaces like schools, churches, movie theaters, or sporting events
-- victims are highly sympathetic, like schoolchildren or churchgoers, or young people on dates, or attractive female Congresspersons.
-- shooters are usually "troubled" young white men. If they are brown Muslim men, they are young, baby faced, and attractive, and featured on the cover of the Rolling Stone, heavily airbrushed.

When victims are military, and the location is a military base, or a military office, and the shooter is a bearded devout older Muslim, it's a pretty obvious act of war.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:47 | 6322108 TeamDepends
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Testify, brother! It's going to come hard and fast now....

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 00:51 | 6322406 palmereldritch
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The question is who wound the crazy up and deployed him. 

If not an organic garden variety religious extremist psycho, albeit spawned by the clash of cultures TM (itself mind control but that's another story) and if instead a specific mind control candidate directed to a target by forces not indigenous to ISIS et al then that would be a false flag attack.

A possible scenario to consider (c.f. the Aurora shooting).

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 04:28 | 6322642 DFCtomm
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Makes you wonder if there ever is a true flag. That's really how you know the conspriacy nuts, are nuts. Nothing is ever what it appears to be. No events ever occur that are unplanned by the powers that be, but then those same powers are so stupid that they blow up the wrong buildings.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:33 | 6322043 Buckaroo Banzai
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The problem with your logic is that, after 6+ years of Obama, even the dumb rednecks have figured out that Uncle Sam doesn't give a shit about them.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:49 | 6322109 Billy the Poet
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The question is who do they hate and fear more, Uncle Sam or the Prophet Mohammad?

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 23:05 | 6322189 Buckaroo Banzai
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No need to make the distinction. Given that Barry Soetero is a Muslim, they are practically one and the same!

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 23:33 | 6322205 Billy the Poet
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I've personally witnessed tea partiers break into a spontaneous recitation of The Pledge of Allegiance. If you don't think that a conservative rebellion could be compromised by our boys in uniform needing the militia's help in the fight against Islamic Terror! then you're not thinking straight.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 23:42 | 6322276 Bay of Pigs
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Which is exactly what they want you to think. Islam will be blamed for everything, even if it's a false flag or a real attack.

"Fascism will come to America wrapped in a Flag carrying a Bible".

Author unknown (attributed to Sinclair Lewis)

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 01:10 | 6322442 tenpanhandle
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But that old saying was a bit of red herring wrapped in a page from the progressives playbook.  Fascism is here - now - and is wrapped in the rainbow flag and black robes and is wearing a hope/change zero button.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 05:02 | 6322671 HowdyDoody
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Modern fascists fund both sides to keep the pot stirred.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 23:12 | 6322208 TeamDepends
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"I will stand with my muslim brothers, should the winds start smelling like beheaded corpses."
-Or whatever the fuck BILL AYERS wrote for Barry Obongodinga

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 23:15 | 6322210 Whoa Dammit
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We hate Uppity Yankees who try to tell us how we should live our lives and mistakenly believe we are stupid the most. And there's not much on earth that we are afraid of.  That's my perspective as a UDC and DAR Southern woman.  

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 23:25 | 6322241 Billy the Poet
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Good thing that no politicians from down south have promoted a new world order.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 23:43 | 6322281 GeezerGeek
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Speaking of rednecks, dumb or otherwise, I heard that the assault lasted for more than just a few seconds. (Perhaps the witness was incorrect, but anyway...)

Where were all the drivers of pickups with gun racks in the back window? Where were all the citizens with concealed weapons? Or doesn't Tennessee allow self-defense?

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 00:00 | 6322313 Billy the Poet
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One has a right to self defense but not the magical ability to always be on top of every situation which might arise.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 03:06 | 6322574 zhandax
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You saw gun racks in the back window when you could buy a good shotgun for $50. 

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 00:01 | 6322319 TVP
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Glad I'm not the only one who finds it suspicious that on DAY TWO of these military excercises, there just HAPPENS TO BE another ridiculous mass shooting on a military base, of all places.  Can they possibly make this shit more obvious?  

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 00:32 | 6322388 Oldwood
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There is something to be said for "united we stand, divided we fall" for we are most definitely divided. Our government has lost the trust and faith of the people it has sworn to serve. As such, every event, each crisis, will be seen as contrived or false flag to create an effect and opportunity. Unfortunately few of any of us has the ability to truly know the truth, but this cynical perspective effectively divides us. We could be attacked in mass and many would swear it was orchestrated by our own government. How do we unit to defend ourselves against ANY organized attack under these circumstances? We find ourselves defending past enemies and condemning allies. This is a terrible place we find ourselves. There is no way to prep for this short of zombie apocalypse.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 01:13 | 6322447 tenpanhandle
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Think globally, defend locally.  Know and befriend your neighbors.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 01:25 | 6322460 MayIMommaDogFac...
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So you're saying just go all out and prep for zombies?  Am I right?

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 08:19 | 6322993 Oldwood
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Yes, zombies only consume productive "flesh". I see the irrational hunger growing. Don't you? All else is chaos that makes anticipating the nuanced gyrations impossible.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 00:07 | 6322334 YHC-FTSE
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"He was an ISIS agent, ISIS is funded by Langley and Mossad"

Oddly enough, the UN Security Council will very likely officially recognize the State Palestine in September (Resolution being drafted by France I think) and I posted recently that the Israelis would start to associate Palestine with ISIS in the msm to try to scupper the process. Alarm bells rang when I read that this nutjob had a Palestinian dad - no doubt this will be repeated ad nauseum in the msm?

This could be the beginning of a series of false flags to smear Palestine by connecting them with ISIS, even though it's not a secret any more that the Israelis have been giving logistical and medical support to ISIS since they began operations in Syria +2yrs ago. He could obviously be a lone nutjob too, I don't discount that either.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 00:33 | 6322390 kchrisc
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+1,000

Liberty is a demand,. Tyranny is submission.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 05:03 | 6322675 HowdyDoody
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By some amazing coincidence, he had been under FBI surveillance for years.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 05:40 | 6322700 HolyfieldsOtherEar
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let me guess...

 

He will be found to have been tripping on SSRIs.

The FBI will be revealed to have been in regular contact with him.

Alternatively, he will have no recall of what happened.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 21:53 | 6321874 stormsailor
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its a good think there were 4 yankee's for every confederate.  as it stood, head to head the confederates kicked the shit out of the yankees over, and over, and over. so unless there are 4 yankees you better leave the confederate alone.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:01 | 6321906 Billy the Poet
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My great-great-grandfather served as a Captain in the Union army and lived to tell the tale.

But more significantly you missed what I thought was the obvious point of my post much like your ancestors missed my grampa over and over again back in '65.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:08 | 6321942 stormsailor
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he was probably in the rear with the gear

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:36 | 6322044 Billy the Poet
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Actually he took command of 211th Pennsylvania Volunteers, Company B when Capt. McClain was killed in action at the Battle of Petersburg. But thanks for asking.

 

211th PA Regiment Organization, Service & Battles
    Organization
  • Organized at Pittsburg September 16, 1864.
  • Moved to Bermuda Hundred, Va., September and attached to Provisional Brigade,
  • Defences of Bermuda Hundred, Army James, to November, 1864.
  • Provisional Brigade, 9th Army Corps, Army Potomac, to December, 1864.
  • 2nd Brigade, 3rd Division, 9th Army Corps, to June, 1865.
    Service & Battles - 1864 - 1865
  • Siege operations against Petersburg and Richmond, Va., September, 1864, to April, 1865.
  • Duty in the Defences of Bermuda Hundred, Va., till November, 1864.
  • Joined Army of the Potomac before Petersburg November 28.
  • Movement in support of Weldon Railroad Expedition December 7-11.
  • Dabney's Mills, Hatcher's Run, February 5-7, 1865.
  • Fort Stedman March 25. Appomattox Campaign March 28-April 9.
  • Assault on and fall of Petersburg April 2.
  • Pursuit of Lee April 3-9.
  • At Nottaway Court House till April 20.
  • Moved to City Point, thence to Alexandria April 20-28, and duty there till June.
  • Grand Review May 23.
  • Mustered out June 2, 1865.
    Regimental Losses
  • Regiment lost during service 6 Officers and 38 Enlisted men killed and mortally wounded and 53 Enlisted men by disease Total 97.
Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:48 | 6322111 Buckaroo Banzai
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So first, he "survived to tell the tale"? And then he was "killed in action"?

How much are they paying you to make up this sorry shit? Because whatever it is, it's 100% too much. Quit wasting my federal tax dollars, asshole!

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:52 | 6322140 Billy the Poet
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Read it again. Capt. McClain was killed not my great-great grandfather. My great-great-grandfather, 1st. Lieutenant C.J. Wilson took command of the company after McClain was killed.

Are you sure that English is your first language?

 

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 23:03 | 6322181 Buckaroo Banzai
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Lol fair enough. You earned your pay tonight, good sir!

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 02:40 | 6322548 Squid Viscous
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the guy from Die Hard? wow, they should make another one where he kicks ass in the Civil War

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:48 | 6322115 stormsailor
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most of my kin were in the 14th nc regiment from beginning to end.  see fox gap,  sunken road,  hazel grove, rhodes assault at gettysberg.  held off an entire corp at the wilderness.  retook the mule shoe at spotsylvania and fired the last shots at appomattox. ramseurs brigade of rhodes division of jacksons (ewells) corp.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 23:00 | 6322168 Billy the Poet
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and fired the last shots at appomattox

 

Sounds like your grandpappy really might have missed my grandpappy (and vice-versa) which is likely a good thing.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 01:17 | 6322451 tenpanhandle
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You two should share a bottle of "Pappy VanWinkle" (the great uniter)

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:55 | 6322150 macholatte
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The facts of the Civil War are long well documented. The North almost lost and would have if not for the massive amount of resources it threw at the South.  The South was much more clever but severely suffered its mistakes while the North just sent in more youth and material like pennies into a fountain. The North got lucky.  Much like Washington against the British or like Bin Laden against the Great Satan. But the really sad thing is that the Union - the USA of today - didn't learn anything from that fight. America thinks it can overcome enemies by sending massive resources against them. How much did it cost America to kill one Taliban?  Disgusting.

JMHO

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 23:06 | 6322190 Billy the Poet
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The south lost its battle plans along with three cigars. That was the black swan that did it.

 

 

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 23:11 | 6322206 Bazza McKenzie
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So your grandpa was murdering other Americans who didn't want to be part of the Union anymore.  Just the sort of person the Germans need for Greece now.  Perhaps they have an opening for you.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 23:46 | 6322248 Billy the Poet
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It's likely that somewhere along the way I had ancestors who actually ate other human beings unlike your quiche nibbling progenitors.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 23:26 | 6322243 22winmag
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10 or 20 Yankees might be needed to fight each modern day Confederate... and in warfare, that is what you call untenable, unsustainable losses. Just ask the Vietnamese.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 23:47 | 6322285 Billy the Poet
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Dylann doesn't look so tough.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 00:43 | 6322401 Mr. Frosty
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New England Yankee here. Pound for pound the Confederates were much better soldiers. A lot of people don't realize Dixie is a Celtic nation. History proves Celtic warriors are no joke.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 00:56 | 6322421 Billy the Poet
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Western Pennsylvania was settled by the Scots-Irish, the damnedest fighters the world's ever seen.

 

 

'Call this war by whatever name you may, only call it not an American rebellion; it is nothing more or less than a Scotch Irish Presbyterian rebellion.' --  Cpt Johann Heinriche (Hessian commander in the service of King George III):

 

 

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 01:59 | 6322511 Jam
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I always had the impression southerners were kind of soft. Warm moderate climate and all.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 02:37 | 6322546 Squid Viscous
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had to conscript the Irish because they were losing so badly, NYC draft riots etc

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 06:29 | 6322746 jughead
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did some southern boy steal your girlfriend?

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 21:48 | 6321857 Ignatius
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Sir Isaac Newton:  For every action there's an equal and opposite reaction.

This shit doesn't just bubble up out of nowhere.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 21:53 | 6321875 mayhem_korner
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That's right.  It bubbles up from interpreters of the Quran.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:39 | 6322076 greenskeeper carl
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@ ignatius- you are right. It doesn't just spontaneously appear out of nowhere. Better to just leave those people to their own devices. As long as we keep interfering in their affairs this will keep happening. And as long as it keeps happening, they will keep passing more laws that infringe on all of our freedoms yet do nothing to actually catch terrorists, like grope us in the airport. You'd think they wanted this to happen....oh wait..

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:50 | 6322132 Buckaroo Banzai
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To paraphrase Trotsky, "you might not be interested in Islam, but Islam is interested in you!"

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 23:48 | 6322289 Bad Attitude
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Abdulazeez was looking to kill a few infidels so he could punch his ticket to get into Allah's great whorehouse in the sky.

Forward (over the cliff)!

 

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 23:00 | 6322170 Buckaroo Banzai
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Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The verse prior to this (190) refers to "fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you" leading some to believe that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families. The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, however, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah's rule (ie. Muslim conquest). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is disingenuous (the actual Arabic words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The word used instead, "fitna", can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. This is certainly what is meant in this context since the violence is explicitly commissioned "until religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home). Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward " This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is this Arabic word (mujahiduna) used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad, which would not make sense if it meant an internal struggle). According to the verse, Allah will allow the disabled into Paradise, but will provide a larger reward to those who are able to kill others in his cause.

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah" Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:193). The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 00:18 | 6322354 YHC-FTSE
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I don't know why you bother. We've all seen enough selective quotes from the bible, talmud, quran, tanakh, etc to get the same distinct impression about all of them. Didn't take you for a zionist nut before. Pity.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 02:43 | 6322553 Squid Viscous
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that's alot of effort, must work for Al-CIA-duh

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 13:45 | 6324359 The Delicate Genius
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Buckaroo is just you run of the mill Fox News brainwashed cunt.

Has his moments on other topics, but absolutely brainwashed and brain dead as to Islam or Palestine.

I think it's genuine ignorance rather than trolling fwiw.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 00:24 | 6322369 Ignatius
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Buck, you can play the same game with the Talmud and the Bible.

I expect more circumspection from you.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 04:22 | 6322638 DFCtomm
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Why don't you prove that. Forget the Old Testament, since that's the same as the Talmud.  Find the same type of thing in the New Testament, the part about Christians.  It should be easy, since you said it was.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 13:48 | 6324372 The Delicate Genius
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the old testament is NOT the same as the Talmud. It contains, in essence, the Torah.

The New Testament contains far, far less violence, hate, and xenophobia than either Torah or Talmud, or Koran.

If you were sincere, which as an inveterate troll, you are not, you'd answer your own question by simply spending 3 minutes on google.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 21:57 | 6321890 blackhand
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Yeah, like a backed up toilet.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:02 | 6321913 blackhand
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News reports indicate this piece of shit was "born in Kuwait in 1990".  Interesting, so he and his donkey-breeding mother were, in all likelihood, saved from slavery and daily ass-rapings by Sadam's army by the U.S. a year later.  Not only a religion of peace, one of gratitude as well.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:10 | 6321947 Billy the Poet
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Maybe he was one of the babies that wasn't torn out of an incubator by Iraqis.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 21:55 | 6321880 Fukushima Fricassee
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Sign on the door says Gun Free Zone .

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:05 | 6321921 nmewn
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Its certainly worth noting:

No Guns Allowed (read the signage)

Maybe they need to amend it to:

No Bullets Fired Into Here Allowed!

Mentally deranged people always pay attention to signage ;-)

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:11 | 6321952 stormsailor
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he hates these signs?

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:18 | 6321982 Billy the Poet
Fri, 07/17/2015 - 01:37 | 6322485 MayIMommaDogFac...
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LMAO!!!

The new phone books are here!  The new phone books are here!  I'm somebody now!

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:16 | 6321968 Billy the Poet
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It's now a scientific fact that boys can turn into girls just by wishing it were so. What makes you so sure that wishing can't stop bullets too?  Maybe you'd just have to identify as transbulletproof and really commit to it.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 01:24 | 6322459 tenpanhandle
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No, it takes an operation either way - to remove bullets or ones penis.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 05:08 | 6322679 HowdyDoody
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A bullet can take out a penis but a penis can't take out a bullet.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 21:56 | 6321884 blackhand
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In case people are confused, this was a sarcastic statement.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 21:59 | 6321898 serotonindumptruck
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I'm still confused.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:33 | 6322045 stormsailor
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maybe it's not sure from idiocracy

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:16 | 6321972 ZH Snob
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isn't that the artist formerly known as Cat Stevens?

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:32 | 6322040 Robot Traders Mom
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"Religion of peace..."

 

The sarcasm isn't even funny, namely because you actually believe the official government narrative...

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 00:56 | 6322425 Oldwood
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We can have 2% of our population as sexually aberant and it is commanded from on high that they must be respected and afforded every consideration while 2% of the Muslim faith are NOT representative of Muslims and therefore cannot be considered a Muslim problem and is considered hate speech if terrorist and Muslim are used in conjunction in a sentence. We can see Muslim violence around the world but are told the political correctness dictates that their faith is irrelevant regardless of what the perpetrators say. We can see statistical evidence that clearly shows that blacks perpetrate more violent crime per capita than any other group but are told to point this out is again hate speech under the umbrella of PC. We see massive debt and population metrics that prove without a doubt that we are bankrupt as a nation and our President tells us on national TV that it is all right wing bunk of talk radio and should be ignored (silenced) and how he has reduced our (his) deficit by 30%, while still racking up another 500 billion or so.

Ultimately we are told to ignore reality and trust in them. Islam is the religion of Peace, blacks are no different than anyone else except being oppressed and our only real duty is to embrace our amazing economic recovery and borrow and spend more.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 04:18 | 6322636 DFCtomm
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Mossad agents have been falsely implicating Muslims for 700 years.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 04:17 | 6322633 DFCtomm
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You know the truth thou, don' t you. Makes you a special snowflake doesn't it.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 23:24 | 6322240 Chris Dakota
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Wow...ZH has been overrun by Hasbara trolls.

Note to you guys:

It's way too late, the whole world knows who has been running this deception.

 

bye bye

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 23:46 | 6322284 Robot Traders Mom
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Bingo. 

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 01:09 | 6322441 Oldwood
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Let's see,

The Jews are evil,

bankers...evil,

capitalists...evil,

socialists...evil,

Chinese...evil,

but amazingly Muslims are pure as the driven snow!

Sure, I understand your feelings against Jews. For all I know they are evil incarnate. What I don't understand is how you can use your hatred of Jews to blind you to the evils of others. You can dismiss the right versus left contest as simplistic bullshit, claiming none of them different, yet at each and every opportunity you will come to Islam's defense. They, like everyone at some point in history have got a shit deal, but are you really going to discount everything as false flag or propaganda. I think you are trying too hard to justify your hatred rather than attempt any balance. You are entitled to your opinion even if you think others are not, but it still doesn't make you right. I honestly don't know all the answers, but I'm watching. If you are trying to convince me, you are failing as quiet obviously you don't give a shit.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 02:47 | 6322555 Squid Viscous
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wow you are reading alot into that comment, are you paid by the word? just woke up in Tel Aviv?

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 08:32 | 6323040 Oldwood
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Wow, you certainly are defensive of your Jewish Hate Syndrome. Anyone suggests that there is more than one perspective and they are instantly working for Massad or such.

I suppose this is not apparent to you, but evil pervades all people. To focus so much on one, blinds you to all others.

I'm tired of blind support of Israel and they should be held to account for what they have done, but this in no way excuses the evil of others. Everyone is looking for a reason to hate and it inevitably becomes focused in one direction.

Continue your doubts and suspicions of Israel, but don't simultaneously become a dupe and enabler for others. Agendas exist everywhere to use us to their ends. we are all the result of indoctrination and endless manipulation. The moment I experience an epiphany, I also realize that potentially another of their "implants" has just been hatched in my head.

I don't trust any of them, a rabid Jew, Muslim or Seventh Day Adventist.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 09:16 | 6323236 joego1
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Well put.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 01:39 | 6322489 JuliaS
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All religions, in essense, are examples of psychological terrorism.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 02:29 | 6322537 OldPhart
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Anyone actually surprised it was a muslim?

Anyone actually surprised by Obama's tepid response?

Meanwhile, I'm the suspected terrorist getting fucking NSA and FBI at my house.

Pussies, everyone of them.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 21:45 | 6321829 serotonindumptruck
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So ISIS is responsible?

Was this guy a dual-citizen?

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 21:51 | 6321867 Whoa Dammit
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He was a naturalized Kuwaiti. Oddly enough, he was arrested for DUI in April of this year, and devout muslims are not supposed to drink alcohol.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3164129/Chattanooga-gunman-Muham...

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 21:58 | 6321878 NoDebt
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It doesn't matter how many other rules you break, if you kill the infidel you go straight up, no questions asked.  Collect virgins.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:12 | 6321953 stormsailor
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i thought it was virginians

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 03:22 | 6322542 OldPhart
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You're all wrong.  They get baked vagina hams.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:17 | 6321978 Philo Beddoe
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Safe bet he was not scoring much pussy in real life. Fuck it, if I cap an infidel I might actuallly get laid. 

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:22 | 6322002 stormsailor
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the reason they never run out of virgins is the mini-dick little maggots that get sent up can't bust the cherry.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:30 | 6322033 Philo Beddoe
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I heard muslim women masturbate with dental floss. 

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:35 | 6322052 stormsailor
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really?   what does it sound like

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:46 | 6322099 NoDebt
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I like where this is going.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:59 | 6322166 stormsailor
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anything like putting your hand in a collander of wet spaghetti and moving it back and forth?  had an old girlfriend that use to get turned on by that

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 02:35 | 6322543 OldPhart
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Like a camel masterbating with dental floss.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 22:35 | 6322059 Implied Violins
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Is Islamic heaven actually where evil women go when they are sent to hell? I often wonder such things...

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 03:46 | 6322613 Miffed Microbio...
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The species of virgin is not specified. Should have had a contract lawyer review the text.

Miffed

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 08:01 | 6322938 stormsailor
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why is everyone laughing at me.  cause you picked the ugliest goat.

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 11:46 | 6323908 Miffed Microbio...
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Great. Not only do I need another cup of coffee but now I have to wash the sheets! ;-)

Miffed;-)

Fri, 07/17/2015 - 00:29 | 6322381 Afaerl
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DUI is a Black Swan. Alcohol is forbidden, period. Muslim friends would go to the pub, wouldn't touch a drop, but would often provide the spliff. Maybe he was on something else? Or maybe this DUI is just false propaganda, to besmirch his reputation?

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 21:52 | 6321871 Mr. Magoo
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So ISIS is responsible?

 

The real question is Who is ISIS

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