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Donald Trump The Demagogue
Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
It’s not too interesting to say that Donald Trump is a nationalist and aspiring despot who is manipulating bourgeois resentment, nativism, and ignorance to feed his power lust. It’s uninteresting because it is obviously true. It’s so true that stating it sounds more like an observation than a criticism.
Lovers of freedom need to confront the views of a man with views like this. What’s more, of all the speeches I heard at FreedomFest, I learned more from this one than any other. I heard, for the first time in my life, what a modern iteration of a consistently statist but non-leftist outlook on politics sounds and feels like in our own time.
What’s distinct about Trumpism, and the tradition of thought it represents, is that it is non-leftist in its cultural and political outlook and yet still totalitarian in the sense that it seeks total control of society and economy and places no limits on state power. The left has long waged war on bourgeois institutions like family, church, and property. In contrast, right fascism has made its peace with all three. It (very wisely) seeks political strategies that call on the organic matter of the social structure and inspire masses of people to rally around the nation as a personified ideal in history, under the leadership of a great and highly accomplished man.
Trump believes himself to be that man.
– From Jeffrey Tucker’s absolutely brilliant, must read, Trumpism: The Ideology
The Huffington Post caused a bit of a media storm earlier today with its announcement that it would be covering Trump’s presidential campaign in the entertainment section. Here’s the announcement:
After watching and listening to Donald Trump since he announced his candidacy for president, we have decided we won’t report on Trump’s campaign as part of The Huffington Post’s political coverage. Instead, we will cover his campaign as part of our Entertainment section. Our reason is simple: Trump’s campaign is a sideshow. We won’t take the bait. If you are interested in what The Donald has to say, you’ll find it next to our stories on the Kardashians and The Bachelorette.
Unfortunately, I have to disagree with this assessment. Trump may be a “joke” to people who see right through what he’s doing, but he’s no joke to his growing number of supporters. The Huffington Post would do far more good covering him religiously, while discrediting him every step of the way. Mocking him will only reflexively boost his support amongst an increasingly desperate and confused citizenry. As much as I wish he were a joke, he’s not. In fact, he’s very real and very dangerous.
Fortunately, Jeffrey Tucker at Liberty.me has penned a piece on Trump that is at the same time brilliant, incisive and necessary. He wrote the article on Trump I wish I had. If we are to ultimately choose liberty as opposed to Trump’s American brand of right-of-center statism, we much expose him for what he is in the context of history. Mocking him, ignoring him and hoping he just goes away silently into the night will not be enough.
Now here are some excerpts from Mr. Tucker’s excellent article: Trumpism: The Ideology
It’s not too interesting to say that Donald Trump is a nationalist and aspiring despot who is manipulating bourgeois resentment, nativism, and ignorance to feed his power lust. It’s uninteresting because it is obviously true. It’s so true that stating it sounds more like an observation than a criticism.
I just heard Trump speak live. It was an awesome experience, like an interwar séance of once-powerful dictators who inspired multitudes, drove countries into the ground, and died grim deaths.
The ideology is a 21st century version of right fascism — one of the most politically successful ideological strains of 20th century politics. Though hardly anyone talks about it today, we really should. It is still real. It exists. It is distinct. It is not going away. Trump has tapped into it, absorbing unto his own political ambitions every conceivable bourgeois resentment: race, class, sex, religion, economic. You would have to be hopelessly ignorant of modern history not to see the outlines and where they end up.
For now, Trump seems more like comedy than reality. I want to laugh about what he said, like reading a comic-book version of Franco, Mussolini, or Hitler. And truly I did laugh, as when he denounced the existence of tech support in India that serves American companies (“how can it be cheaper to call people there than here?” — as if he still thinks that long-distance charges apply).
Let’s hope this laughter doesn’t turn to tears.
Lovers of freedom need to confront the views of a man with views like this. What’s more, of all the speeches I heard at FreedomFest, I learned more from this one than any other. I heard, for the first time in my life, what a modern iteration of a consistently statist but non-leftist outlook on politics sounds and feels like in our own time. And I watched as most of the audience undulated between delight and disgust — with perhaps only 10% actually cheering his descent into vituperative anti-intellectualism. That was gratifying.
As of this writing, Trump is leading in the polls in the Republican field. He is hated by the media, which is a plus for the hoi polloi in the GOP. He says things he should not, which is also a plus for his supporters. He is brilliant at making belligerent noises rather than having worked out policy plans. He knows that real people don’t care about the details; they only want a strongman who shares their values. He makes fun of the intellectuals, of course, as all populists must do. Along with this penchant, Trump encourages a kind of nihilistic throwing out of rationality in favor of a trust in his own genius. And people respond, as we can see.
So, what does Trump actually believe? He does have a philosophy, though it takes a bit of insight and historical understanding to discern it. Of course race baiting is essential to the ideology, and there was plenty of that. When a Hispanic man asked a question, Trump interrupted him and asked if he had been sent by the Mexican government. He took it a step further, dividing blacks from Hispanics by inviting a black man to the microphone to tell how his own son was killed by an illegal immigrant.
Trump also tosses little bones to the Christian Right, enough to allow them to believe that he represents their interests. Yes, it’s implausible and hilarious. But the crowd who looks for this is easily won with winks and nudges, and those he did give. At the speech I heard, he railed against ISIS and its war against Christians, pointing out further than he is a Presbyterian and thus personally affected every time ISIS beheads a Christian. This entire section of his speech was structured to rally the nationalist Christian strain that was the bulwark of support for the last four Republican presidents.
But as much as racialist and religious resentment is part of his rhetorical apparatus, it is not his core. His core is about business, his own business and his acumen thereof. He is living proof that being a successful capitalist is no predictor of one’s appreciation for an actual free market (stealing not trading is more his style). It only implies a love of money and a longing for the power that comes with it. Trump has both.
In effect, he believes that he is running to be the CEO of the country — not just of the government (as Ross Perot once believed) but of the entire country. In this capacity, he believes that he will make deals with other countries that cause the U.S. to come out on top, whatever that could mean. He conjures up visions of himself or one of his associates sitting across the table from some Indian or Chinese leader and making wild demands that they will buy such and such amount of product else “we” won’t buy their product.
Yes, it’s bizarre. As Nick Gillespie said, he has a tenuous grasp on reality. Trade theory from hundreds of years plays no role in his thinking at all. To him, America is a homogenous unit, no different from his own business enterprise. With his run for president, he is really making a takeover bid, not just for another company to own but for an entire country to manage from the top down, under his proven and brilliant record of business negotiation, acquisition, and management.
What’s distinct about Trumpism, and the tradition of thought it represents, is that it is non-leftist in its cultural and political outlook and yet still totalitarian in the sense that it seeks total control of society and economy and places no limits on state power. The left has long waged war on bourgeois institutions like family, church, and property. In contrast, right fascism has made its peace with all three. It (very wisely) seeks political strategies that call on the organic matter of the social structure and inspire masses of people to rally around the nation as a personified ideal in history, under the leadership of a great and highly accomplished man.
Trump believes himself to be that man.
He sounds fresh, exciting, even thrilling, like a man with a plan and a complete disregard for the existing establishment and all its weakness and corruption. This is how strongmen take over countries. They say some true things, boldly, and conjure up visions of national greatness under their leadership. They’ve got the flags, the music, the hype, the hysteria, the resources, and they work to extract that thing in many people that seeks heroes and momentous struggles in which they can prove their greatness.
This is a dark history and I seriously doubt that Trump himself is aware of it. Instead, he just makes it up as he goes along, speaking from his gut. This penchant has always served him well. It cannot serve a whole nation well. Indeed, the very prospect is terrifying, and not just for the immigrant groups and imports he has chosen to scapegoat for all the country’s problems. It’s a disaster in waiting for everyone.
The main reason I chose to start this blog in the first place, was rooted in my deep fear of what might emerge after the current paradigm collapses. I have no doubt something very different is coming, I just desperately want that thing to be freedom, free markets and prosperity as opposed to the disaster that a $2 despot like Trump would bring. His ascension in the polls is very troubling, and makes me wonder whether the public will ultimately choose to rally behind some statist-demagogue wrapped in an American flag when things get bad enough, as opposed to something far more difficult: Liberty. I fear they may eventually choose someone like Donald Trump.
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Why the hell not. Got my vote
I'll take Trump over any of these "establishment" candidates any day! I know he's a loud-mouth and likely tied up with the banksters, but I think we've all had enough of the "USA Royalty" for a while.
After we voted in Obama, an openly anti American man of zero accomplishment and continuously shady associations, nothing should surprise us for this next race.
Just as GWB's idiocy left the door open for a charismatic communist/statist like Obama, so Obama's shocking and horrifying policies, performance and twisted beliefs have left the door open for a guy like Trump.
I'm not a Trump supporter (for my own reasons, not those stated in the article), but if you're a leftist and think he's just some carnival freak show you are in for a very rude awakening.
(for my own reasons, not those stated in the article)
It is the fucking God awful hair...right? C'mon. Nobody is gonna take that guy seriously with a lid like that.
The Establishment is the Demagogue.
Trumpt tells the truth.
A lot of bullshit presumptions in this article. The same kind of Bullshit Trump is cutting through for the rubbish it is. Short on details and Long on Statist Nihilism Blah Blah Blah, its difficult to even find an argument for the author's point of view. The way Trump eliciits all this irrational, frothing at the mouth contempt tells me all I need to know: Mainstream Media has no argument for someone who calls bullshit on Their Game.
Lemme ask one question:
If this scumbag does make it (insane how many even here are rushing back into the system) then will y'all give up your rights to object to how bad we get fucked by this guy?
Insane how many people clamor for a leader, even those who are supposed to know that it is the system that is the problem, not who sits in the white house.
pods
Meet Der Furor
This attempt to poke holes in Trump's legitimacy couldn't punch holes in a wet paper bag. Speaking for myself, I'm LONG past the dream of finding the next George Washington. I'll settle for TRANSPARENT, I'll settle for someone who's so powerful that the media or any global entity can not control them. I'll also seriously consider what Scott Walker and Carly Fiorina have to say. But you think I'll take Donald Trump before Hillary Clinton? You're Damn Straight I will !
Legitimate? Transparent? That's pretty rich.
Go back to sleep now.
The man will not be president, OK everyone? Let's get over that stupidity. He has ZERO hope of appeal to a HUGE voting block, there is NO path to president for this dumbass. Now as far as the mans record:
-his father made his money via the government housing program FHA
-trump inherited up to 200$M and shortly after was PERSONALLY in debt to the tune of 1B$, his primary corp was in debt to the tune of 9B$ - someone with that shitty of business acumen is going to get the nations budget under control? No.
-trumps construction projects employ illegal immigrants http://goo.gl/CdPCof, the guy doesn't give two fucks about immigration reform
In summation: anyone who thinks trump is a 'different' candidate is fucking braindead. Actually i should say, he is a different candidate (Trump is FULL retard), just not different in the sense that he's separable from what anyone can realistically expect from hillary or jeb.
After Clinton Bush Obama, your trying to tell me this guy is a scumbag, is unethical, can't run a business? That's fucking hilarious.
Listen, you could make a 1 hour video of O's campaign promises that he didn't keep. Bush was probably one of the lowest IQ presidents we ever had. Clinton? I mean give me a break.
Anyone who is not part of the system would be a better choice. Who knows, he might keep one or two campaign promises. I do know that for some reason he has TPTB scared shitless, as I have never seen such troll response to every single article that's written about Trump on the web. The Huffington Post response was just plain funny.
I don't like him. I have never liked him. I'd vote for him in a minute against Hitlery.
I'd vote for Trump.
Who gives a shit if he's demagogue? The only alternative is a slow death via the democrat party. The faster we get this over with, the faster we can rebuild. I, for one, do NOT want to be viewing the 1000th re-run of "Soylent Green" in real life 40 years from now.
People say he's a clown. Yeah? Who gives a shit? EVERYONE on the field is a FUCKING CLOWN.
I'd vote for Bozo the Clown if he did a juggling act while telling America that he was going to build a wall on the southern border. The entire US, the justice system, everything has turned into a complete joke to us, the world, and every space alien who is viewing this world and shaking their heads.
"BAP! BAP! BAP! RETARDS! BAP! BAP! BAP!"
I'm hoping for Sanders or Warren. But I'll take The Donald. Anyone but Jeb or Hillary.
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At least I made it to the first page. I guess it does not matter if No One can read the skinny text.
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Lefs see if the elite really step in some shit and when trump gets really high polls they pull him out of the party.. Do you think they want him running as an independent? Do you think the dems would care if Carson joined him. Maybe Carter Bam for defense Secretary? Wesley Clark as national security advisor. Is it getting clear what wing is forming out there. The military wants the country to reform the CIA is in on it they want the NSA to back off.
TRUMP Demolishes THE HUFFINGTON POST, Slams Editorial Judgment
"-his father made his money via the government housing program FHA"
Yea, he built $6000 homes during a housing shortage that people obtained FHA mortgages for to purchase. JC you are a weasel.
Donald Trump Platform:
Pro-Life, Focus on not adding to National Debt, Same sex marriage a state issue, Legalize drugs but does not personally use them or drinks, Get rid of common core education policy, climate change is a HOAX, Believes in a strong family culture, Be tough on CHina, their our competition, 20% tax on all imported goods, Against any gun control,Obamacare is a catastrophe, All freedom flows from national security, REAL UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS 20%,foreign companies are taking jobs from the US.
http://www.ontheissues.org/Donald_Trump.htm
Blah, blah, blah...
And what about the FED? Wall Street fraud and corruption? Regulatory capture at the SEC and CFTC? Corporate lobbyists hijacking DC? Illegal and immoral wars overseas?
Who are you talking about here? I mean that is what the last 3 presidents have done. You need to be more clear.
I was clear about what I said about Trump.
You fuckers would rather ignore the facts on him. So be it.
"When a Hispanic man asked a question, Trump interrupted him and asked if he had been sent by the Mexican government"
To be fair, it was some Donald baiting query...
Is it the South American Tyler who wrote this? The reason I ask is that may explain the focus on the demagogue aspects of (T)rump.....Most of us KNOW he's a clown but he just might be an AMERICA FIRST clown instead of a globalist clown (which is all we've had going back, lo, these many years, with two more (Jeb and Hitlary) on deck in their large floppy Corporatist shoes)
Fact is, trump's the only one even MENTIONING things many Americans have been screaming about for years. I think Trump's appeal is rooted in this...AND the fact that after W & O, even Bozo the REAL clown would seem like a "viable" candidate to the average amerikan.
The author doesn't seem to realize "hispanic" is NOT a race, nor is mexican.
Mike Krieger is a fucking liar. The "hispanic" person was a group that started screaming/heckling. This was not a press conference with questions. It was a speech. You disrupt it and you should expect to get your ass kicked and thrown out.
I guess faggot krieger would rather have hillary or jeb. He's showing his love of the 2 parties who own american politics and shut out any other viewpoints. Die in a fire you fascist prick.
apologies to any Tylers...I didn't see the byline
Don't forget: " more support of Israel. (Jun 2015) "
Right on! Tired of the BS written here sometimes. They sound like the MSM with their comments. Trump is calling bullshit on the elites of both parties and that I LIKE.
Any country with enough dumbshit voters to elect a two-bit cowboy actor
has enough stupidity to elect a $2 despot.
I guess that's inflation.
Any country with enough dumbshit voters to elect a Marxist Muslim dictator with ties to every far left radical group
has enough stupidity to elect a $2 despot.
Pods - I know you're too cool to vote, but I would rather see this clown turn the table over than sit back and pretend my non-vote is making some moral point.
Sorry man, but I don't get it.....could you honesty trust this man to take on the FED, Wall St. Banksters, Deep State (NSA, CIA) and MIC?
That's the fuckan question to ask Donald Trump. Not all this other ridiculous bullshit.
Who knows - but if not him, who?
Ron Paul answered all those things twice in 2008 and 2012 and was blackballed by the MSM and GOP.
I'm not supporting this guy until he comes clean. Otherwise, he's just another statist, corporate shill and bankster ball licker.
Okay, you win. Go Jeb, Go Hillary
Yeah, I do win because your points are invalid and not supported by any facts. You don't know anything about him on those issues do you? Guess what? Nobody else does here either. And why is that Bumpo?
Strawman Night here at the Hedge. Fuck it, I'm going out to to have a couple....
Good for you :)
We all have to make decisions on limited information. Not interested in real politicians these days.
Hang loose, brah
Yeah, well that is really important shit, especially since Jeb and Hill have taken positions on all those issues. We can trust either one of them to take on the Fed, the NSA, end the wars, and so on. I don't know why anyone would even consider someone else besides Jeb and Hill.
surely the /sarc tag is missing in that comment?
LOL, ya think? =D
You're making a good point.
Maybe he's (Trump) waiting for more critical mass support before tackling the dirtiest of the problems (which you'd admit, most of the "electorate" doesn't have a clue about, in spite of R. Paul's efforts).
11/16 is a long way off -- lots of time for him to come clean/expose himself/fail/be destroyed.
The saddest part of all is that We've already demonstrated the worst-case: waiting for a "Leader" to fix everything.
Too big a task for one man, but he knows why this country's deck is stacked against us commoners. Is he the controlled opposition? Maybe.
But at least he's on record and he's not going to get a second bight at the apple if he breaks globalist on us. Bush? Clinton? They're guaranteed two terms to screw us over.
This man speak... truth. Listen to his words.
Best (worst?) case scenario: Trump is a good guy-true believer type and he's being setup as the patsy. The system is broken and failing. TPTB can save it and look bad or they can let it fail with someone else in charge. That someone else can take the blame while TPTB can ride in to the rescue.
New actors. Same movie.
Tsipras, Porky, Cameron, Sarkozy, that eye-talion bunga-bunga guy, anyone? Oh! How about Nixon. Look at his campaign promises and compare to his executive actions.
Talks a good game but Trump is a Clintonian suck.
Yeah, just like nobody once took seriously a small Austrian with a Charlie Chaplin mustache.
GWB was just a big enough idiot to fly F-102 fighter jets. We can't even get the biology grades of the kneegrow in the White House. Leave Bush alone. He's still helping wounded vets, while your prick praises the Navy CORPSEMAN.
Yeah, he helps wounded vets by charging them $100K for a speaking engagement. He plays a similar Clintonian game, just on the down-low. Even if he did it all out of the goodness of his heart it would still be cold comfort knowing most of those wounded vets were wounded in his idiotic wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
He spent most of his life disinterested in anything he couldn't snort up his nose. He was at least 20 IQ points shy of what a President needs. And the White House was probably not the best place for him to work out his "Daddy issues". At least his father was smart enough to know he needed to stop short of invading Iraq and overthrowing Saddam. That highly ill-advised war probably fucked this country as bad as any other foreign policy mistake in modern history.
Aside from that, sure, he's fine.
Couldn't help but notice that you didn't elaborate on the foreign policy "successes" of the traitor in the White House, which you seem to give tacit acceptance to.
Don't confuse my distain for GWB with my abject hatred of Obama.
Common problem here lately at the Hedge.
Lots of kneejerking going on.
pods
One of the few if only things I agree with this author is when he describes merikans as "confused and desperate." We certainly are given the pile of crap these 'leaders' and Wall Streeters have dumped on us.
Sadly, there's not much choice so far. So why not Trump? He's just as good if not better then the next candidate and he is not part of that inner cricle gang bang in DC.
Who keeps loaning the guy money each time he drives another company into bankruptcy?
"Knee jerking" was accurately cited above . . . and I gotta agree with your commonfuckingsense implication here--to imagine for even a microsecond that a real estate magnate isn't tight with banks and other sources of Big Money Insider financing is certifiably insane.
Can't see how anybody belonging at a finance blog would not grok that one. Unbelievable.
Who keeps loaning the guy money each time he drives another company into bankruptcy
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Morons? The same people who buy bonds, buy stocks, buy Netflix?
If he can use his hypnotic hair to mesmerize fools into shoveling currency into another one of his cash furnaces, good on him.
I know. Cost of doing business, I guess. I know it's coming like the sun coming up tomorrow- they try to put words in my mouth because they disagree with me. Because I think GWB was a bad president I must be an Obama supporter? He can suck my cock.
I am more than capable of defending myself and will NEVER get put in a box somebody else builds for me. That might work on weak-minded people but that shit won't work on me. I'll shove it right back down their fucking throat and I'll have a smile on my face while I do it.
Once upon a time this place was called "Fight Club". Not so much any more. Not many left who are willing to get bloody to defend their position. I'm still up for it, though.
The problem is that you spend all your time whacking strawmen and an argument never actually takes place. Poop flinging monkeys.
It's gonna get worse too. Still a long way till the next selection. Oh well.
pods
"He can suck my cock."
You want a guy to blow you?
Ah man. That is right up there with:
"I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast."
You eat shit?
No pods, it's a fuckan circlejerk here at ZH now.
Many posters here will vote turd or douchebag and gladly tell you why you should too.
Not only here but at work, in the market, at starbucks. Even had someone made a flippant comment as I was descending from my Mt Woodson hike today that the next election " would be the turning point for America". I've heard that phrase for 20 years.
I'm tempted to do research on Emperor penguins in Antarctica. I'm so tired of listening to idiots I'd rather risk freezing to death.
Miffed
I'm seriously considering moving to Asia.
America is FUBAR.
I am rickshaw certified; call me.
The problem is people everywhere are sheep. No matter where you try to run, there will be very few with critical thinking skills. If you have them, just count yourself lucky to have an easy time competing.
Shoot your tv. Ignore the idiot comments. Enjoy life.
Got it.
"He (W) is still helping wounded vets"
I'm gonna sit here and count to 100 and see how long it takes you to get the fucking irony of that statement....
That's not fair--somebody had to send those soldiers to destroy Iraq and murder at least half a million innocent people. Otherwise they might have just sat around and gotten fat . . . rather than becoming the heroes each of them signed up to be. And besides, somebody's gotta keep the memory of Wars of Aggression and other war crimes alive, else we might become lost in liberal moral relativism. We must never forget . . . else we might forget our sacred duty to serve as the moral compass of the world. Regardless of the cost.
Hell, without W, those vets might not have ever even met a POTUS . . . much less W!
I hope they're all properly appreciative. I know I am.
You mean, the Dubya the Deserter?
I don't know which Navy CORPSMAN (get the spelling right) you're referring to; but some of them actually deploy with Combat Units and into Harm's Way.
Do those Corpsmen NOT meet up to your "standards" worthy of recognition?
Your mate Obama used the term "corpseman". That's what oldmanofthesee was referring to. He was not having a personal spelling problem. I admit it can be difficult remembering all Obama's incompetencies, which make Biden look like a genius.
Don't worry, there won't be another election so we're stuck with the Kenyan guy. We've all died and gone to Bizzaro World hell. That explains a lot if you think about it.
Usually like Krieger but not this time. We are all wasting energy on "the next presidential election", because there won't be one. Seriously, look into the future a year. What do you see?
I see this place populated by beaten wives beaming at the cheap flowers given to them by their drunken husbands as they yet again promise to make changes that actually benefit them.
As for elections, why do you think they have them? To choose the leader? Come on.
I can't wait to see all the dopey looks of people with those childish "I voted" stickers. Makes me laugh at how bad humans are at repeating mistakes.
pods
We are going to have to find someone worthwhile to vote for as the only other alternative will be ugly indeed. I'm not a terribly optimistic person but I do hope for the best. Doing nothing seems like a waste of life.
You might suggest an interesting idea.
Let ZH people decide. Who shall the Fight Club Party run for el Presidente'?
I vote for me, not because I have a high opinion of myself. It's just that I don't trust anyone else to take care of me.
Dammit! I knew this wouldn't work.
Sooooooooooo, just spent thirty minutes crafting a lengthy, topical reply to you pods and received our tenth or so YOU ARE NOT AUTHORIZED TO COMMENT warning. So fuck you, ABCTyler. This is not Fight Club anymore, it is Censor Club.
To err is human, to forgive, divine.
-Alexander Pope
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KUZx6r_pOl0
You musta been talking 'bout OJ Simpson.
If it doesn't fit, you must, ah shuck it. I quit.
Yeah Pods, I lol when I see cars still bearing "Obama" bumper stickers, personally. Pehaps they're hoping those fading talismans help to expedite passage through the eventual checkpoints, and random beatings.
Where were the articles like this when Obama was giving his "hope and change" speech in front of the roman columns in Denver? Everything the media should have seen coming in Obama is what they are projecting on Trump.
Believing in closed borders and respect for the rule of law does not make you a despot or a nazi.
I've read this article before except it was about Reagan before he won the Primary and then the Presidency.
Good point. If Jeb Bush becomes his running mate....well...there you go.
Jeb as running mate?
Damn, Trump is assasinated in first year of "his" presidency (or radically disavows all his campaign promises).
Trump is a hell of a lot better than the idiot we have now.
A shit slinging monkey is better than what we have now!
I've determined to never vote in a national election again. I will write in Scrooge McDuck for all the positions.
High five!
I've decided never to vote for another democrat or republican.
Hey Krieger, fuckface, the pendulum swings both ways. I hope I live love enough to see that bitch high and hard to the right. Guns fucking blazing shit. Hitler? That's who you compare him to? Well ponder this...if Germany had not the big dick rammed up its ass after ww2, maybe the good volk would not have been so open to him.
You leftists and Obama, fag marriage, celebrating freaking whack jobs like Bruce Jenner, leaVing the border wide open, and MOCKING us at every turn.
You deserve it.
WW1. I was wound up, and didn't proof.
Thanks. I was worried there for a second.
Shit happens...
Donald Trump: the candidate for the mouth-breathing Red Team fucktards who refuse to go down the rabbit hole and learn the truth.
Be careful what you wish for, you check-the-box Republican'ts.
END THE FED!
Maybe Trump can be our Y-Anus! Man love seems to bounce around more than the change in Beyonce's back pocket.
Fuck Hillary Clinton fucking criminal bitch dog Nazi cunt.
Precisely why I'll vote for her; there's no way back folkz, only through. And the faster we get this demonic shit show imploding, the better it will be.
Maybe Trump won't put an end to the bankers, but he mght just put a pad lock on the border. Better than ANY ONE ELSE.
Like locking the door after the barn has already burned down and killed the horse.
Let in 30 millions+?
Let in millions more as the mighty wall (which I predict will go up at a glacial pace) is constructed?
I'm really not buying Trump's shit, frankly.
I wonder what they'll threaten his kids with to control him, or is he already controllable?
The ONLY politician from State level and up that gets anywhere is one that is controlled, or already with the program. You really should be reconciled with that reality by now.
If the american economy starts sinking, by the 2016 election Trump might just be the next president. People assume someone like Trump knows how to make money, but he is no stranger to bankruptcy:
By 1989, poor business decisions left Trump unable to meet loan payments. Trump financed the construction of his third casino, the $1 billion Taj Mahal, primarily with high-interest junk bonds. Although he shored up his businesses with additional loans and postponed interest payments, by 1991, increasing debt brought Trump to business bankruptcy and to the brink of personal bankruptcy. Banks and bond holders had lost hundreds of millions of dollars, but opted to restructure his debt to avoid the risk of losing more money in court. The Taj Mahal emerged from bankruptcy on October 5, 1991, with Trump ceding 50 percent ownership in the casino to the original bondholders in exchange for lowered interest rates on the debt and more time to pay it off.
Since it worked out for him maybe he would not have had a problem to let the banks, AIG and GM go bankrupt.
OOOHHHH, Trump is so dangerous! Everyone has to vote for Bush, or Hillary, or else they are just crazy like he is!!!
Go fuck yourself, Mr. author. I'm sick of the same lame politicians, I'll give Trump a chance. I hope he keeps spitting in everyone's eye.
Go fuck yourself, Mr. author.
I agree, read about 1/3 before I'd had enough. We should ask him to publish what CIA checks look like, or is he already on direct deposit?
Trump is popular because he says what real people are thinking:
"What the fuck are we doing letting immigrants stream across the border with no allegiance to anyone or anything other than themselves and where they came from?"
"Why are we dicking around in the Middle East and losing good Men and Women to that cesspool?"
"Why the fuck did we offshore all the career employment to make slaves of foreigners and ourselves?"
He'll never get a nomination or get elected, he gets good press and promotes himself, but he probably means it too. He strikes a chord with the "WTF!?!?!?" in most people.
The important thing is to pay attention to the "WTF!?!?!?" response from the populace, not the person pointing it out.
We all know things are completely fucked up, ass backwards, dick in hot wax balls in the vise insane.
What to do about it?
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He's going to spend a good deal of Dough for this. If he doesn't get the GOP Nomination, he might as well run as an Independent; and finish off the Race.
I remember SPY Magazing using his opinions, affiliations, and quotes as part of a Formula to rank their 100 Funniest Events of the Year decades ago. I actually visited a bldg owned by Trump in NYC - it was well kept.
Another Perot? Will it help bring in 8 Years of Hillary for a unprecedented 4 straight* Democratic Party Owned Presidential Terms? Maybe. BTW, I voted for Perot - wish he hadn't pulled out during his first bid.
*Democratic-Republicans of the Jefferson Fame were calling themselves "Republicans". The term is designated by Modern Political Scientists (per Wiki).
How can anyone ruled by a foreign-born chimp think that Trump is not qualified to be president?
Because only THE TRUMP can fix it.
Every Trump supporter needs to answer how he is going to fix it? Every candidate wants to close the southern border. Every candidate says we need to fix our immigration problem. The how you are going to do it is more important than the rhetoric. So far Trump is long on recognizing the problem but very short on how to do it. All we have to go on now is comments that Trump has made in the past. He has stated he supports amnesty. Trump and Jeb Bushies border policy is about the sames. He supports single payer health care. He has monetarily supported Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.
Yes I am glad he is bold, the cowardice of the Republican party is staggering. In previous speech Trump's policies have been full socialist. Add the rhetoric of "nationalism" to it and we have a problem. The last thing we need is bigger federal government in the disguise of popular opinion. Mussolini would be so proud, now there was a man that could get the job done regardless of the legislature.
So, I'm voting for Trump.
Me too. Trump will back Israel and stop this Iran nonsense.
He will end ISIS and insure it's daemon never touch foot on US soil.
God bless Donald Trump!
Forgot the sarc tag there, scooby!
Nice MDB imitation though.
Like your vote means anything....suckers!
Your non-vote means even less. You're 'courageous' like Kaitlin Jenner, sucker!
You can dislike Trump all you want, but you won't get "Liberty" from ANY of the other Pols running for Pres.......... so, dream on.
Fuck Trump. Fuck em all. I would vote for a guy like Bill Murray. No fucking sane reason. He is the only famous person who does not seem like an asshole.
I'm hoping for a coup d'état with a benevolent dictator who would string up the vermin like Mussolini and his fascist friends. Yeah ok, probably not a great long term idea. Didn't work out too well for Rome. Maybe Bill Murray could temper down the rape and pillaging.
Sorry, but I guess I've come to my limits with the voting process after being disappointed so many times. I want action as a tired wage slave in a hopeless world. Of course, it is not lost on me this same type of frustration is what lead to the French Revolution. The only thing keeping us from that horror is we are not starving. A very fine line indeed.
Miffed
Like your vote means anything....suckers!
Trumps campaign slogan "Hope and Change redux"
Wow, your non-vote is soooo powerful. I feel intimidated by your nothingness!
Look out, for goodness sake lets not hold anyone to account. Trump would be a fine president. Especially when you compare him to the current, Bush, Clinton, Bush and so on.
Let the sheep get the shearing that they have been begging for for the last 40 years.
Trump is nothing but a false-candidate and distraction. He is introducing the neocons' current platform and agenda to the sheeple, especially the evangelical Christian swilling "heartland" ones.
Hillary is the same, but working the FUDD (Fear, Uncertainty, Dread, and Division) side.
The key to understanding it, is to notice that ALL of the noiZ-media outlets are all spouting the same scripted propaganda and nonsense.
People just never learn.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
Now back to "Flags, the enemy."
So what is this "neocon agenda" you claim Trump is introducing?
He has said the US should not get involved in Ukraine (thought the neocons for that).
He has said the US has done lousy trade deals (last 2 presidents, with neocon input) and he will unpick them and bring manufacturing jobs back to the US.
He has said Mexico is flooding the US with illegal aliens, frequently criminals, and he'll not only stop it he'll make Mexico pay for the wall. Since this flood has built up under Bush and Obama, with neocons behind them, how can Trump's policy be neocon approved.
The neocon media, like the MSM, hate him and are throwing everything they can at him.
Hate to break it to you but your connection with reality is beyond fragile.
How is Trump different than any other demagogue or politician in the past 80 years or so?
He's not. The real question is, if you had a choice between Trump, and another Obama (aka Hillary) for another 8 years, who would you pick?
At least Trump already has money, so he would not care about $500k speaking fees, like Bill and Hillary. He already gets blowjobs from a beautiful woman, so you don't have to worry about him spooging over some fat intern in the Oval Office.
What's not to like about Trump?
"...who would you pick?"
Someone still thinks that we, the American people, "pick."
No, the colonizers of the American country, Zion, pick the Oval Office puppet.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
Gandhi undermined the British empire by not acquiescing to the Salt Tax. What power we Americans have in no longer acquiescing to Zion's usury?!
kchrisc - ever heard of the electoral vote? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral-vote.com
all presidents are selected ....not elected....get clue how this crap really works - OUR VOTE DOESNT MEAN SHIT!
Being a Pussy and doing nothing isn't nobel. Your non-vote is as cool as gender bending is special.
He was smart enough to walk into the BK bankster meetings (4) times and say FU, you do it my way or eat the fucking investment yourself. At least he knows business.
More Gold Bitchez....I pick up pennies and the Shit is about to Hit the Fanola.
After :Lyndon Banes Johnson, Richard M Nixon, Two Bushes, Slick Wille and 2 terms of Obomao and you think America will be any worse off? Two were impeached and the others should have been, and most from known crime families. Then get what you want Mikey and grandstand for an appeal of 2 term limits and get The worst President ever for a 3rd term. Or a criminal like Jeb who has already stolen one election for his kinfolk? Yes how soon we forget.
The Donald won't be and cannot be any worse than the long line of proven crooks and Baffoons that have preceded him. Period.
And at this point, Hitllery sums it up best. "WHAT difference does it Make" and the fact she's not in jail, you have to admit, she has a point.
America- stick a fork in it- its over, No country could recover from That.
Voting? Kinda like the fair markets?
How about Tom Selleck? What the fuck? He hates that fat lezbo Rosie O'Donnell. That, and we can just call him Quigley.
"Just because I said I never had much use for a piston doesn't mean I don't know how to use one."
Quigly delivering that line, is one of my favorite things to watch. Even when I know it's coming. It's great.
See...this it how it starts....a grass roots campaing to elect Tom Selleck as President. Maybe we could get TC...the black helicopter guy...so we could get the black vote. Hey, I might be onto something here.
Dibs on being Robin Masters. If that's already taken, I'm Higgins.
Zeus and Apollo could be the Secretary of Defense and State. Man, I really think we are puitting together a winniong ticket here. We got the dog vote. black vote. republican vote, lezbo hating vote, pompous British twit vote, Ferrari vote and Man Love vote.
That screenplay was done. Idiocracy.
" and fun bags here is Secretary of State"
"Brawndo..it's what plants crave. It's got EElectolytes!"
Just one problem.... being white is racist. All our good deeds and well-laid plans.... worthless, unfortunately.
Tom Selleck 100% gay, FYI
Not so. On a flight around a decade ago, I sat next to two women who talked incessantly of their "friends with benefits" relationship with none other than Tom Selleck.
Was one named kaitlyn?
If Trump were to do nothing but what he says he will about illegal immigration the "current paradigm" will be greatly improved.
"....an increasingly desperate and confused citizenry"
I'm confused about who in the hell the author includes in the term "citizenry". It would be nice if that term had meaning as it once used to.
Check your VSWR bro.
I was independent but now am going to vote trump as is my wife
Long over due someone to speak that is not PC
Shooting did it for me
"So many demagogues and demagogic movements have won power and mass adoration by relieving the peoples they rule of the burden of freedom…One of the most powerful forces in the coalition that brought Reagan to power was a drive to annihilate all traces of “secular humanism” and turn the U.S.A. into a theocratic police state. The frenzied (and lavishly funded) militancy of this drive convinced many people, including passionate opponents, that it was the wave of the future."
- Marshall Berman, All That Is Solid Melts into Air, 1981
Another accurate and good read - keep it up.
At this accelerating pace ZH will see measurably more newbies (ahem, i mean bots) signing in to comment on how great Trump is and that they are voting for him... Gimme a break, I've been visiting this site for quite some time and I can assure you this 'Trump Nonsense' is not the pulse of your typical hedger!
Who gives a shit what you think - that article was a broad brush of vague unsubstantiated generatlities. WTF
Of course there is something different coming and only an idiot thinks it going to be freedom.
The people do not demand freedom. They demand stuff instead, and it is finally becoming apparent why they do not have it. Its their own fault of course and many of the things that Trumps points out are true, but the people are still not going to like the solutions. They didn't like them when they were much less painful, so only a fool would believe they will make the proper choice now. Not yet. It will get much worse before we see a real change in attitude.
We are witnessing this in Greece, where years of profligate policies are suffocating them, yet still they refuse to accept their reality. Americans know that illegals have displaced them in the job market, but they will not consider accepting their lost positions when they can qualify for entitlements that require no labor, no effort at all.
The drain vortex quickens....
Very true words but there will come a point where they cannot bestow gifts. Somewhere in this reality of suffering people may reach clarity.
I WANT a President that walks up to the podium, in Congress, for the State of the Union...looks at the camera...and says....
My fellow Americans. We're fucked. But this is what I think we can do about it. .......
We have always had people telling us what the answers were but no one wants to hear it. We have liars as our elected leaders because that is our choice. I believe that people really do know when they are being lied to....and prefer it that way. people speaking the truth are punished by the public and the press. I know there is hatred for Trump if for no other reason than in what he represents, but he is not lying to us and its driving the press nuts that they can berate him and marginalize him in every way yet his popularity grows. I have no illusion that a majority will support him, as again, the majority loves liars. But this truthiness is scaring the shit out of the progressives. They are quiet used to being able to silence such speech with little effort, and Trump only gets louder. Every person that has tried to stand up to them has been destroyed or capitulated in short order, apologies all around. I give not one shit about Trump and I know there are many who think he is some type of Trojan horse in an attempt to destroy republican "populism", but I hope for a fire to get started that knows no ideology other than truth. Truth, that becomes so glaring and cleansing it can't be denied.
I can dream can't I?
Carter tried saying honestly we're fucked. It didn't work. He was just called a mal content and replaced by an actor who said everything's great.
Sheeple don't want honesty. They want pretty lies and free shit. That is why both parties specialize in lying to get elected, then doing what ever the lobbyists ask for.
Oh yes! Let us vote for "serious" establishment politicians like Jeb, Hillary, Boehner, and McConnell. These are the people who can usher in a new era of freedom and liberty. No matter that if Boehner and McConnell had their heads any further up Obama's a--, they would be seeing daylight.
I have doubts about Trump, but I don't really see how he could be any worse than the alternatives. The mainstream press always tries to dismiss candidates they don't like as idiotic simpletons. They did the same with Reagan who they dismissed as a dumb actor. The mainstream press hates Trump, which for me is one of his main charms.