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The GOP's Biggest Nightmare: Trump Dominates Fox News Poll
Demagogue or not, The Donald continues to gain support among Republicans for the GOP Presidential nomination, according to the latest FOX News poll, and among Republican primary voters, Trump now captures 18 percent: more than his closest competitor, Walker.
He’s closely followed by Walker at 15 percent and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush at 14 percent. No one else reaches double-digits.
Support for Trump is up seven percentage points since last month and up 14 points since May. He’s also the candidate GOP primary voters say they are most interested in learning more about during the debates.
Walker’s up six points since he officially kicked off his campaign. That bump gets him back to the support he was receiving earlier this year. In March, he was also at 15 percent.
Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul gets eight percent, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio receives seven percent, former neurosurgeon Ben Carson comes in at six percent, and Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee get four percent a piece.

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Here's Martin Armstrong on the matter...
Trump is hitting very hard, clearly tapping into the emerging anti-establishment politician trend. He bluntly states, “Who do you want negotiating with China? Trump or Bush?” You could expand that to Hillary. Her negotiations amount to how much they are willing to donate to her questionable charity. People setup such charities because they have money to give back TO society, like Bill Gates. The Clintons started their charity when they were broke. Who is the charity really benefiting and why did Hillary shakedown countries as Secretary of State to pile in money to their questionable charity?
MSNBC keeps trying to focus on Trump’s comments on Mexico. They give him tons of airtime in an attempt to discourage people from voting for him, but they may be creating the exact opposite. Despite what everyone says, he is tapping into the increasingly popular view that everyone is starting to feel, having had enough of politicians, or at least the ones with a brain.
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When you're starving, even a turd sandwich looks pretty good.
Yikes!
excellent SP reference
A few here get it. While Trump may or may not stay the course, and he may or may not be a great choice for President, he at least voices the concerns of 99% of the legal people in this country: illegals, H1B visas, crony fascism, and he calls out bullshit from the left and the right. Additionally, is he really worse than the liar in chief who is now President ? Would any of the declared candidates right the ship of state ?
While I don't trust Trump, I sure as hell don't want any of the other clowns. At least Trump would be entertaining as the ship sinks, somewhat like the band on the Titanic playing on...
If they still vote they don't "get it".
I understand your frustration, but in order to convince me that voting doesn't matter, even if I don't like the choices, you would have to convince me that I would prefer Hillarity over Trump or Walker.
Are you serious?
Not voting is a cop-out for lazy people who don't care if they have the right to complain.
Get off your ass and vote for the least worst candidate, or shut up.
You are just as much a part of the problem as they are.
Tell that to the Greeks over at the birthplace of democracy. It's the political class that's apathetic.
Sorry to say, but the "qualities" it takes to succeed in politics are despicable and among the worst characteristics of humanity.
You make my point perfectly. They could have voted for Golden Dawn, a party the wants to return the control of Greece to the Greek people, but they chose instead to vote for a cabalist controlled socialist party that sold them out to cabalist bankers - but gave them their pension check. What you want is the results of democracy without being prepared to make the sacrifices that make it happen.
In the future, I would recommend that you use an example that supports your point.
So many trash talk greece at my workplace, but if USA was in the same place as Greece with the bankers here, people would unanimously choose to hand over sovereignty in exchange for the next paycheck. I look around at grocery stores and malls...No one is ready to sacrifice the junk food, shopping and entertainment for true freedom.
Good points. Please don't take my comments as badmouthing the Greeks. There were more Greeks that voted for Golden Dawn (probably more than we were told about by the cabalist controlled MSM) than there would ever be Americans that would vote wisely for the preservation of their people, if their paychecks were at stake.
My point is that we should hold those Greeks up as an example for being willing to stand their ground and stand for something, not ridicule them because they were "foolish enough to vote". What kind of a cop-out is that?
If this discussion is truly about the value of voting, why are we not supporting the Greeks who voted for Golden Dawn? They took a stand, and they made a difference. Their representative tore up the documents that the traitorous cabalist puppets passed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyN0en6cuCU
I am proud of those Greeks that voted for Golden Dawn. They know more about democracy than most Americans will ever know.
They are true peoples of white European descent who care about the survival of their people and culture.
Only time will tell whether the American people can measure up to their standard.
I think voting is a cop out for people who want to say "I did something" while really doing nothing. "Voting" for a dummy won't change the ventriloqist.
I carry no debt, buy nothing I don't need, leave no money in the bank, and pay in cash whenever possible. That's how I "vote".
Faulty reasoning. "Voting for a dummy won't change the ventriloqist." If you can't tell the difference between Hillarity and Trump, please don't vote. I don't want your judgment anywhere near the electoral process.
What do you have to lose by voting? Do you think you are going to get a medal as a revolutionary? Grow up.
The system is not perfect, but your not voting just ensures that all the illegals that vote get their way.
Oh I forgot, you don't care if our country becomes Mexico.
"If you can't tell the difference between Hillarity and Trump, please don't vote." - Different dummies, same ventriloquist.
"I don't want your judgment anywhere near the electoral process." - Likewise, I'm sure. Luckily voting doesn't matter.
What do I lose by voting? Time and mental energy spent on validating insanity. If you really think that voting one way or the other is going to change the illegal immigrant situation, you need to continue your ZH education. This has been planned a for a long time, and nobody, except the 99% citizen scum, want it to change. The real powers (none that we "vote" for) are quite happy with how things are going.
The country IS becoming mexico, but not because of the presence of brown people. They are just more pawns in the game of Amerikan destruction.
First of all, the presence of millions of illegal Mexican aliens does make us like Mexico. If you think that demographics does not affect culture you are naive.
Before you continue your lecture to the choir, let me refer you to my previous posts to illustrate my full understanding of the complete cabalist control of both parties. Please don't lecture me on the futility of assuming that any candidate will solve our problems. This is about damage control as long as the cabal is in charge.
We are at war. I do not intend to abdicate any weapons at my disposal, including voting, as minimally effective as it may be.
Just because I have grenades, it does not mean that I abdicate my pistol.
If you really want change you will use any weapon at your disposal, regardless of whether it is less effective than you would like it to be. Do you really think that when the next cultural marxist president takes office they will care that YOU didn't vote.
Wow, that takes ego.
Dude, the propaganda has worked perfectly on you. When you vote you put your stamp of endorsement on the most corrupt system on the face of the earth. It's like choosing between excruciatingly painful ass cancer and excruciatingly painful ball cancer.
Read The Creature From Jekyll Island and you will begin to understand. The Fed and its owners rule the world, no matter who the "elected" officials are.
If Trump doesn't want to end the Fed because he profits from it then he is a corrupt piece of shit. If he doesn't want to end the Fed because he doesn't know it's a problem then he's an ignorant piece of shit. Either way he has no business being President.
You must unlearn what you have learned.
Please don't call me dude, unless you want me to discount you as a 68'er.
No, when I vote it is an acknowledgement that I have analyzed the alternatives, and imperfect as they are, I have rendered an opinion as to what is tactically best for my people. I may not like it, but I view it as better than rendering no opinion at all.
I am assuming that when you chose not to vote, you are acknowledging that as imperfect as the system is, you have no opinion. To me that is more evidence of laziness than wisdom.
Don't be deluded into thinking that because you have failed to exercise what little leverage you still have over the disaster that our government has become, that this represents some type of "moral high ground".
I am not sure how we got on the Fed, because I am not sure that Trump has given his blanket endorsement to the Fed's behavior. Ramble much? Either way, it is amazing to me that you would presume that I have not read The Creature From Jekyll Island, because I have. I have also been one of the staunchest critics of the Fed on my ZH blogs, so not sure where you are going with this - or what it has to do with the value of voting.
Also, please don't presume to tell me what I need to unlearn.
Voting for the lesser of 2 evils is still a vote for evil. If you're ok with that, well then I don't know what to tell you. But, I guarantee that the next couple of POTUSes have already been selected by TPTB. Everybody else that enters the race is part of the theatre of making our electoral system look legit. Your vote doesn't matter at all. Get over your ego and realize that your vote is completely meaningless and will change nothing. It's not about morality here at all; it's about knowing that it's all a farce and I refuse to participate in a farce.
"Voting for the lesser of 2 evils is still a vote for evil."
Gee, I thought minimizing evil was a good thing. I guess you don't.
I still don't understand the logic that would allow the greater of two evils to prevail if there was an option to help prevent it by voting.
If you can't get to this conclusion, I am not sure where we go from here.
Thanks for your discourse.
It seems that perhaps you missed the entire point of his post, in that there is no selecting anything., lesser or greater evil. The choices are made, and the greater and lesser evils are meaningless theater.
A direct quote from this post is "Despite what everyone says, he is tapping into the increasingly popular view that everyone is starting to feel, having had enough of politicians, or at least the ones with a brain."
That is not "meaningless theater", it is theater that has a message, it is just not the message that the cabal wants to hear.
No, what frightens you and a lot of other brainwashed people is that Donald Trump has struck a nerve. It means YOU can't be complacent any more, and claim that the process is irrelevent as an excuse to do nothing.
It's a frightening nerve the threatens the very existence of our artificial political system based on "kosher" candidates.
Don't label me as a "blind follower of Donald Trump" just because I am prepared to admit that he is on to something.
By the way, I am not necessarily crediting Donald Trump with brilliance. A moron could see that we need some the changes he is advocating.
The difference is his willingness to articulate tabu topics - the elephants in the room that everyone else is hiding from for political gain.
No, I got the point of the article. Did you?
Amen, and thank you for the rational and well reasoned discourse.
"I carry no debt, buy nothing I don't need, leave no money in the bank, and pay in cash whenever possible.
I agree completely. Keep doing that.
However, what has that got to do with the fact that the country needs your vote, because you think clearly, and we need your vote to neutralize the vote of some moron who is voting for Hillarity.
This is war, we don't have to like it, but we need to win if our children are to survive.
Voting is like signing one's own surrender.
Good points, skipjack.
The only members of the GOP that are scared of what Trump has to say are the ones who might need to rethink their position to get realigned with the people they should be representing.
Frankly, people of white European descent in this country are tired of certain members of the GOP selling them out to the cabal.
I hope those members of the GOP are scared, they should be.
In deference to those who share the same reservations that I do about Trump, I wish he would focus more on the white genocidal implications of immigration (illegal and otherwise) than simply justifying all of his viewpoints on profit and economic growth alone - important as they are.
If you fix the cultural and demographic problems of America, the economic problems will solve themselves.
Homogeneous European cultures never seem to have a problem with crime or economic viability, funny how that is.
I am with you on all of the above, except that little comment about Europe's economic viability. You might want to re-think that.
It may have been largely true before the Euro, but no longer as national boundaries are being erased. Just as America is being invaded from the Southern hemisphere, Europe is dealing with a major influx from both Africa and the Middle East. Their cultures, like ours, are being bastardized - ruined - while our so-called leadership cheers it on as they facilitate the process at the bidding of their multi-national corporate donors bribe them with "campaign" cash.
Trump wants the illegal criminal Mexican trash out of America.
Jeb wants to erase the US/Mexican border.
You're either a patriot and defend your sovereignty, or you're a traitor.
Jeb Bush is a traitor.
Hilary is another UN sock puppet.
Didn't Ron Paul want to defend our sovereignty with sound money and trade? The conservative voters trashed him in exchange for Mitt. It's not what you say, it's how 'presedential' you look. Never underestimate the large pool of freeDUMB voters on both sides of the voting aisle.
No worries!...
Jeb Bush and the part of AIPAC and JINSA (that funds both Party(s))will find an incriminating sex video of "The Donald" and President elect Bill Clinton "pulling a train" with a couple Penthouse Pets at the Guccione cave in 1991!...
ALL ABOARD "THE PICK EITHER PARTY" TRAIN AND STILL GET FUCKED!!!... Toot toot...
United Nations, YOU'RE FIRED!
Trump would win in a landslide if he said that in a debate with Clinton.
Donald Trump is a bad hairpiece.
Hilary Clinton is a sick cow.
Paul and Walker don't have the gravitas that a Trump draws around that big head.
Only Kennedy had a bigger head of hair.
No more Bushes!! Ever.
My prediction is that no matter who is the next president, they will be deemed "worst president ever".
This is because even worse shit than before will go down on their watch.
It's because the system we have in place produces the criminal element we get for politicians, the system is the house and the house wins every time.
It cannot be repaired only replaced.
Obama, the bitter, twisted half breed has Worst Ever locked up forever...
"Change we can laugh at"
I want Trump for president. I Am a life-long woolly minded liberal, but Clinton or Bush ??!!
Totally predictable boring tiresome establishment party hacks , carefully picking the words to hide their real agenda, not that it makes any difference. With Trump we might at least get change we can laugh at. Go ahead Don, use my slogan.
The following says it all , in 1908
"The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them in parliament."
Vladimir Lenin
Every time I see a Trump headline on ZH, I am just boggled by the fact that anyone takes this guy seriously. I bet half the people working at his hotels are illegal, and if he isn't a bankers shill who is? Softening up the market for Hitlery at least makes sense, but seriously, some picnics have become a few sandwiches short here.
U may be the one short on sandwiches to take ANY politician seriously, most of all those politicians who have demonstrated gravitas, and sincerity only to be unmasked for the clowny charlatans they really are when exposed,
And the mere fact that you invoke hitlery as some kind of best of the worst choices proves it. That 43% of the voters, the same percentage since the Flood, have not, will not, can not see thru this fatally flawed hermaphrodite is far more astounding than the 18% of republicans who could give a damn about some stupid illiegals in his employ when all of DC employs some variation of undocumented, illegal aliens.
AT least the Donald throws up the absurdity of politicians and we can laugh about it.
I think you miusunderstood my post, or I should have clarified. I support NO candidates whatsoever and feel voting legitimizes the fraud. What I meant was the idea that some posters are putting forward that Trump is softening up the market for Hitlery makes sense strtegically.
Being accused of thinking Hitlery is the best of the worst just made me shit my pants and throw up in my mouth at the same time.
I think there has been a few words uttered throughout history regarding 'charismatic leaders'...
Form following function died a long time ago in the U.S.
Americans like people who speak clearly on subjects without mincing words.
They almost never elect such people to office though.
Here's the best thing about Trump:
If he stays in long enough he will force the other candidates to take actual positions on policy rather than straddling everything.
They exist, but never make it to the final cut.
Henry Kissinger edits the American out.
Replaces or converts the American with a stooge.
I think every President since Nixon has received the facts of live or die speech from the fallen angel.
Is that fungus still alive?
Reagan spoke clearly about things, he rejected the establishment's conventional wisdom at the time, and he was elected.
And then our national debt exploded. Hmmm...weird.
And, granted amnesty to the illegals in 1986. The first in 20 years that kicked off where we are now.
Good points, Meremotal. Its nice to be able to acknowledge, using the 80/20 rule, that a candidate can be a positive influence on the discourse, without having to necessarily be accused of endorsing everything he says.
I have posted a lot on Trump, and I think that puts it in a nutshell.
You must be brain dead. Oboma is a Zionist?????
Who gives a ' Donald Duck ' what Trump Tower thinks? Who gives a FUCK also what Vichy DC thinks?
Faux Nooze, fuck yeah.
I remember when Fox shot down Ron Paul during the primaries. They would laugh and talk over his answers during the debates.
The right side of that poll from Huckabee on down should drop out.
The REAL question is which candidates have been buying poll points. Recall that Perry (the 2012 designated frontrunner) was way ahead in the polls when he was the Bilderberg designate. Then he showed that he could not handle an open microphone and he was whisked away. Now he only has 1% without the Bushite backing.
I suspect that Jeb is benefitting from at least 10% purchased points.
I also suspect that Trump is working for Hillary and Hillary is purchasing Trump % points.
Ron Paul was THE public favorite and never received high poll rankings.
The polls are a fraud designed by the media and money powers to change public opinion.
Look at how many candidates there are; this is a repeat of 2008. Republican leadership isn't serious about regaining the White House. If they stumble into it, you can be sure it will be with an establishment candidate, and whoever they are they'll sell America out faster than Syriza did the Greeks. If you feel some moral duty to fucking vote, then you better do it in the primaries because by the time the general election rolls around, you'll only be left with the same ol' "lesser" of two evils to choose between. In the end, every American voter is gonna feel like Marsellus while he was bent over the horse, except it's not going to end, cause Butch ain't coming back in this version. Just extrapolate out another doubling of the debt to maintain the status quo, and see where it puts the budget. #zedbush #maynardclinton
If many of the imbecile republican candidates knew how mad we are they would be screaming like TRUMP. Many GOP appear to have no backbone and rollover when the liberal press uses their name. I’m tired of whimp candidates….
What I like about Trump is that he speaks the truth even if he hurts your feeling... Can't stand the fake and hypocrisy of Hillary and Bush
The problem is, it's not what they Say that matters. It's what they Do that counts. Trump talks a great game. He has no voting record to review, obviously - but it is on record that he's donated a lot of money to Hillary Clinton, and other Liberal organizations. He needs to explain that.
Don't be naive, it's ALWAYS about the money...
' It's all about the bucks kid. The rest is conversation.'
President Trump, President Clinton.
Don't vote, you'll only encourage this.
Trump won't stay in. He never does. If he tried, that big Jew York mouth of his would get him in trouble. Rand Paul for president, no other choice exists.
NYC cops looking for a minivan with 5 Muslims transporting long riffles (M16's).
DHS and FBI consider the threat level low.
They believe they may be transporting paint-ball guns.
We all know how much fun Muslims have shooting paint-balls at white US Marines.
Check out the NY Post today.
http://nypost.com/2015/07/17/cops-hunt-for-minivan-transporting-possible...
Those aren't muslims. They're cross dressing halloween costume merchants testing their 2015 product line.
The fat woman in the red turban looks tough.
Who has more hair?
Green arrow Hillary's upper lip
Red arrow Trump's noggin
Hilary has more back fat.
I love her clown jump suites too.
She looks like a pale falefaced Oompa Loompa
That's mean of me!
Hillary is in shape.Round is a shape
I wonder when she's going to disclose her medical condition.
The gossip is that she has a liver problem.
When she turns yellow we'll know for sure.
Hadnt heard about the liver issue
Her dain bramage from her fall has made her easily fatigued which is why they are limiting access to her
After about an hour that libyan baby blood infusion wears off and makes her wilt into the shrivelled crone she is
All these candidates are fucking assholes in a gong show and will fuck you over.
You might as well vote for the most entertaining.
Actually Ben Carson is the real deal and as a VP candidate would bring in a ton of black votes.
I realize Both parties are bought and paid for. Anyone but Hillary!
Tuco
Blacks arent gonna vote if a Zulu isnt on the top ticket
SusanaMartinez. New Mex governor. Hispamics are much better poised as changing/emerging state demographics than blacks in blue states (no gain there) or no chance in Confederate states
Just enough R Hispanic voters could flipColorado and Nevada and others like Virginia or some of the wobbly Midwest blue states
Walker Martinez 2016. Forces Medusa to contest Midwest and Southwest that Obama won easily
And she is no Obama. Horrible campaigner where Peace Prize was brilliant
In Texas, the Hispanic vote actually tended toward the conservative but times have changed...
Hispanics are peeved at the Dems for all that can kicking om immigration
Hispanic males voted nearly 50-50 in Senate races in Texas and Georgia which hurt Democratic candidates there
up arrah fo' d'use of Madusa...
Dr. Carson is a nice guy, with the right feelings towards the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and a moral society.
But for me, he is way too meek, and is not Presidential material.
i.e. I question his Leadership skills.
Carson's views on 2nd Amendment are no bueno!
take your meds
and if his president dies in office and Carson becomes president, we have two Negro Commander in Chiefs practically in a row.
The road to hell is paved with Negro presidents.
Bid, I am taking my meds!
I have an enlarged prostate and am taking "flow max". I asked God for a small prostate and a big dick but somehow he misunderstood I guess.
Bid, just listen to Ben sometime and perhaps you will change your views?
Tuco
Tuco pal
Hey, I'm taking flomax too. It makes me meaner than a junk yard dog.
If you recommend Ben, no doubt he's worthwhile.
But speaking for all 300 million of us, once burnt, twice shy.
watch out for road rage and unnecessary fights with the Mrs.
btw, in case you're not aware of it, Alleve is recommended by all the urologists in my neck of the woods as a very effective anti-inflamitory for the prostate.
Don't forget to vote for the right clown. It totally matters and stuff.
Yeah, I'm looking for the Trump/Palin ticket. These GOP dudes really have it together.
sarc
Sexist, much?
("GOP Dudes")
Sorry bad network connection
No excuse...fuck off.
He prob thinks Jim crow laws and the anti black movement during the civil rights era we're GOP manifestations instead of Dems
He prob thinks Jim crow laws and the anti black movement during the civil rights era we're GOP manifestations instead of Dems
He prob thinks Jim crow laws and the anti black movement during the civil rights era we're GOP manifestations instead of Dems
Hope she doesnt shoot that squirrel on top of Trump's dome
This Trump billionaire motherfucker is well paid controlled opposition.
What about the debt ceiling, are you prepared to move it to the Trump Tower? Jesus fucking Christ (unpossible), hang this bloodsucker or let him eat his hair.
"" People setup such charities because they have money to give back TO society, like Bill Gates"
Bill Gates is a eugenicist whose father used to head up planned parenthood. Nerd Bill's vaccines are in the process of sterilizing Africa.
The Donald better have security check out his jet full time. Nothing like a plane crash to drop you from the air and the polls.
The Donald is a pompous ass but a likable pompous ass!
Tuco
This is the Presidential Reality Show, nothing more.
"Politics is Show Business for ugly people." Ugly from within.
Yep. And the neworks want to gin up their ratings.
Trump would nuke Iran to prove he's "tough".
Good. Someone needs to show Tehran who's boss.
Because no one in Iran respects the half-Iranian, raised by Communists, pants-wearing true President of the USA, Valerie Jarrett, anyway.
Trump is a Spoiler Candidate just like Teddy Roosevelt in 1912.
Well he's certainly going to spoil the event for both Bush and Clinton.
Him and Sanders are sugar highs
Wasnt the head of Godfather's Pizza Leading the pack in 2012?
Scott Walker or Jeb
I am going to write in Vladimir Putin for Pres
So what you're saying is you want 4 more years of Communism, eh?
How stupid can you be, what part of bailing out banks is "communist", or opening the borders to low income illegals, do you even know what Comminism is?
I swear to God, the stupdi things people say. Obama is a globalist, there is a huge differance.
Polls are lies. Period. None can be proven. Nuanced questions and most importantly, it depends on who is paying for the poll as to the outcome.. If you beleive any poll you are a pollack..
Anybody who wil stare down the left and tell them to go fuck themselves will get my vote. By default this alone makes them a million times better than the limp wristed metrosexual mulatto euro faggot in the whitehouse. Like him or not, Trump is telling the left to fuck off. if he is stil. In at the end, he gets my vote. Anybody but bill's hole.
Rand Paul is the only candidate who cares about yours and mine Liberty and Freedom.
Read his book Government Bullies, and you'll know what I mean.
I like Trump's outspokenness, but Rand Paul cares about our Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Trump, I'm not so sure...
Rand Paul lost much of his base for bailing on his father and supporting Mitt. A traitor to his own father.
Hollywood vs Washington DC = Beautiful actors vs ugly ones.
That must have been before he dropped to his knees to nosh Nutty-yahoo's cock
The Progressive Commie Leftists will still run Hillary, even if she were dead.
In fact, I actually think she died from that stroke, and they're just running a body-double.
Hence, the rope line for reporters not to get too close!
Is this /sarc, or, is it not? You be the judge...
You could be right about the body double, except it may not be a double . . . . well see for yourself. Here's the doctors response after treatment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xos2MnVxe-c
Since when does ANY politician have a brain? That's a new one on me.
The article wasn't talking about politicians in that sentence.
The inference was about voters.
Since when does ANY voter have a brain? That's a new one to me.
Better?
I think he's more popular than the poll indicates.
Cut your Macy's store card in half and throw it in the trash.
They banned selling Trump's products for telling the truth about criminals.
Mexican rapists and killers shouldn't be protected, but deported just once and for all.
Shame on Macy's.
I wont be shopping there again.
Macy's wants crimal rapists to rape your children?
Maybe they can make a new float for the parade of the act itself?
Not even for the GOP's biggest nightmare will I watch the whores and pimps of Fox.
Perhaps we will finally be able to see the face of the man behind the curtain!
HAHA This is great! Lifetime politicians getting their ass handed to them by a guy who is probably doing this on a bet. Trump is exactly what America needs. Fuck these career polticians.
FUCKING A!
I'm sure more than one ZHer stated it, but if Trump is still in the headlines after Christmas then consider him controlled opposition for the democrats.
Its the same Game Theory lesson from the Clinton Playbook - get Ross Perot to split the "Republican vote."
Between Trump taking the Paul message as his own and otherwise saying "eff-the-republicans" and runs as Independent in a Clinton/Bush race, its seems effortless for Clinton and the democrats to keep the white house - barring some black swan depression event.
Despite all the panic of a Chinese stock shit-storm, a Euro-collapse, or interest rate hikes, I would think the plan would be to keep the economy on life support until after the 2016 election - so pump more money for another 18 months.
Post election you can do what you want and its not like the republicans are an actual organized political party anymore.
I know folks don't believe it but the top twenty old skool republican party operators are being blackmailed with the whole "1960s Nixon/Bush-republicans assassinated JFK" story in order to keep them disorganized and ineffective. Pour Boehner another drink and powder him Oompa-Loompa.
Post Bush 41's passing, look out for some serious SJW Cultural Revolution witchcraft to descend from the Clinton WH.
The Clinton/Googleplex playbook is your are; "You're either for Hillary, or you're a racist bigot."
Paul/Trump/Bush can fight for those votes.
Rep. Luis Guiterrez CONFIRMED THIS.
Trump is a hispanic registration voting machine for hillary. they are looking to register 5 MILLION hispanics for this election, all formerly ineligible to vote.
trump is a false flag candidate. since martin armstrong isnt smart enuff to figure this out, i lost all respect for him
By golly, I think you have figured this whole Trump deal out.
The Donald is a busy man. For your theory to be correct I would think that either someone would need to be offering him a big payout of some sort or TPTB have some dirt on him and are telling him to run or else. Neither makes much sense. How are they controlling him?
Politics is about to become a wild card no one looked for.
Who are they asking? No regular folk are paying any attention yet, and only Trump has really broken through to the public, probably 90% of the population couldn't name three Republican candidates other than Bush, and how many would know his first name?
Lets be clear in one thing here.... donald is a trump in every fucking possible way ;p
But hilary is a fucking psychopath and you don't give a fucking psychopath the worlds biggest superpower and an arsenal full of nuclear weapons!
That said... trump getting attention is a damn good thing ;p considering the alternative at least xDD
I remember a couple years back a Republican candidate said "we have to stop being the party of dumb". 'Tseems their constituency never heard or cared aboot that.
where the fuck is Pataki!?!?!?!?!?!?!? This is an outrage!!!!!!!
Where is Lindsey Graham with his all Zionist cabinet?
I gave up on voting back in 2004. I don't think it's gonna solve anything at this point. Having said that, I'm surprised Rand Paul isn't higher on the list. Seems like the best option, if voting is your thing.
Angel Martin is looking for you.
Which one? The one from Rockford Files, or the blogger?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vYrrLFr15NY#t=...
as squirrelly as the rest, just in a different way.
POP QUIZ.
How long after The Donald becomes Prez, before the USA is at war?
a. One Hour
b. One Day
c. One Week
d. When the TEA PARTY fakers in CONgress roll over like the bitches they are and sign the next war funding bill.
Well in the first ten seconds, with Mexico.
And then maybe a few days later, with Iran.
Then California will secede and he will offer them to Mexico as part of a treaty, but China will make him a better offer.
"How long after The Donald becomes Prez, before the USA is at war?"
When has the USSA not been at war?
Not in my lifetime, or in the lifetimes of my parents and grandparents. Whoever runs this circus obviously decided a long time ago that the country was going to stay at war... forever (or at least until the wheels fall off and the evil empire implodes).
He'd be like Reagan, they'd be afraid of him, (unlike Opologizer) and that would act as a deterrent. Less wars start with a strong President than a weak one.
Like Reagan?
In 1986, Reagan signed an immigration reform bill, the first in 20 years, that legalized the status for 1.7-million people. Edwin Meese, Reagan's former attorney general, characterizes what his boss did: "President Reagan called this what it was: amnesty. Indeed, look up the term 'amnesty' in Black's Law Dictionary, and you'll find it says, 'the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act provided amnesty for undocumented aliens already in the country.' "
Many have called the program a success because it awarded green cards to 2.7-million migrants, giving them the hope of entry to the American middle class. When Reagan signed the law, many predicted it would encourage the hiring of more migrants, especially outside of agriculture, and that this would spur the backlash against immigration that we're seeing today.
This much is certain: If the law aimed to curb illegal immigration, it failed: When the law was passed, there were about 5-million illegal immigrants; now, there's an estimated 12-million.
He signed the amnesty as part of a deal with the Democrats in Congress to secure the border. As usual, the Democrats welshed on the deal. That was a mistake by Reagan that Trump won't make.
Reagan signed the bill after Republicans and Democrats cobbled together an amnesty program in response to concerns from farmers worried about harvesting profits. The official record of congressional debates shows that lawmakers intended the program to provide a steady supply of labor for growers of perishable crops, such as cherries, grapes, peaches, etc. At the time the bill was written, however, "perishable" was defined so loosely that more durable crops such as potted plants, tobacco and seedlings were lumped in as well.
Yeah, because crazies are a surefire method for deterrance. History is full of them during the first half of the 20th century. for ex...
BERNIE 2016!!
ONLY candidate ever with consistent and correct message
Will be printing for the people, as should have happened long ago, while sticking it to the banks
AND he will end the Fed
Tyey're going to print anyway. Might as well give it to the ones who will be paying it off rather than the sociopaths.
What a dumb fuck you are..
Hey idiot, move to Russia.
Trump has a tendancy to bankrupt things he owns/runs.
It would be tragi-comical if he takes the helm of the US, only to watch the US declare bankruptcy via default.
Trump owns entirely, or is a majority owner, of around 500 entities ... and only a handful have failed. He has been involved in hundreds that have succeeded.
Your comment is not only misleading, but demonstrates ignorance as to just how a 10+ billion dollar empire is structured.
That's exactly right.
Plus, his wife and daughter are hot!
The Hillary and Chelsea and Bulbous Bill show....not so pretty.
The US is already bankrupt.
Trump sure knows how to thumb his nose at banksters.
Touche to both 35 and B7. You're right. I only see the failures via the MSM.
I +1'd both of you.
So, is it your opinion that this guy is actually anti-establishment and would bring the power back to the people? Or is he more of the same on fiscal, monetary, and foreign policy?
There is a difference in being a billionaire business tycoon, and POTUS, so for now all we have is what he says he "will" do. But, keep in mind that he puts together deals and builds. In the very least he can lock tight the southern border; other than that he'll have to deal with all the Chamber of Commerce bought politicians in congress. He has said though, that his speciality is getting people behind closed doors and making deals; it's made him 10 billion bucks.
He said in an interview that when he goes into something he plans for the very worst possible scenario and then makes his move. That's a great attitude to have when dealing with Congress and why people mock him and underestimate him at their peril. He also said just today or yesterday, and I paraphrase, "that if someone fucks with him, he will fuck with them". He said that at the level of commerce he deals in you don't screw people, you don't lie, you don't cheat, because if you do you'll never put together another deal again. That's crazy talk for politicians, so having him as POTUS would be like dropping a truth bomb into congress.
One big difference is, that if he gets elected he will owe the voters, not donors of which he has none and doesn't need. It's an interesting concept; a POTUS who only owes the voters.
In another time IMO, he'd be the wrong guy, but with both parties now so Wall Street bought, he just may be crazy enough to beat back the culture of corruption. (if he stays alive that is).
Or, he may get POTUS, but Wall Street/Congress will shut him down. Initially at least they'll be afraid of the voters; for once.