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Creator Of Internet Privacy Device Silenced: "Effective Immediately We Are Halting Further Development"

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Submitted by Mac Slavo via SHTFPlan.com,

ProxyHam

(Pictured: Proxyham by Benjamin Caudill / Rhino Security Labs)

Data collection and invasive monitoring of American citizens has been at the forefront of government activities for decades. After revelations by Edward Snowden in recent years, the fringe conspiracy theorists who warned of Big Brother surveillance and had been laughed at by the general population were finally proven right.

But despite the literal hundreds of thousands of pages of information about government snooping and the Congressional “investigations” that followed, nothing has been done to curb the unabated violations of Americans’ Constitutional rights to be secure in their homes and personal effects.

Thus, as always, the free market began developing its own solutions. Earlier this year an inventor by the name of Benjamin Caudill announced a device he dubbed the ProxyHam which was going to literally change everything about how those concerned with privacy could connect to the internet:

“I PRESENT PROXYHAM, A HARDWARE DEVICE WHICH UTILIZES BOTH WIFI AND THE 900MHZ BAND TO ACT AS A HARDWARE PROXY, ROUTING LOCAL TRAFFIC THROUGH A FAR-OFF WIRELESS NETWORK – AND SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASING THE DIFFICULTY IN IDENTIFYING THE TRUE SOURCE OF THE TRAFFIC. IN ADDITION TO A DEMONSTRATION OF THE DEVICE ITSELF, FULL HARDWARE SCHEMATICS AND CODE WILL BE MADE FREELY AVAILABLE.”

Rhino Security Labs via HackRead

What Caudill had built is a device that would mix up your personal WIFI signal in such a way that no one, not even the National Security Agency, could track down where it originated.

That, of course, is not something the government wants in the hands of ordinary citizens, and the events of the last week show exactly how dangerous of a device this is to the Big Brother Surveillance State.

Just hours before Caudill was to reveal a fully-functioning ProxyHam at the DefCon hacking conference his presentation was abruptly cancelled. No reason was given and Caudill posted several cryptic Tweets that left many baffled.

The device had been disappeared, the company was cancelling production on retail units, and the source code and blueprints would no longer be released to the public.

rhinosecurity

Some have suggested that a private business approached Caudill before the conference and made him an offer for retail distribution.

But the more likely scenario, given what we’re privy to about the device and the government’s incessant need to know everything about everyone, is that someone made Caudill an offer he couldn’t refuse. Hackread explains:

There’s another possibility of this sudden cancellation i.e. intrusion by the government. Maybe that is the reason why Caudill is not discussing the reason behind this halt. Even though the security firm was “excited” to unveil ProxyHam at Def Con.

 

Steve Ragan of CSO Online said:

“IT WOULD LOOK AS IF A HIGHER POWER – NAMELY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT – HAS PUT THEIR FOOT DOWN AND KILLED THIS TALK […] IT ISN’T PERFECT, BUT A TOOL LIKE PROXYHAM – WHEN COMBINED WITH TOR OR OTHER VPN SERVICES, WOULD BE POWERFUL.”

Incidents like this give us clear insight into what the goals of government surveillance are. As we noted in 2011, well before the Snowden revelations, everything we do is monitored.

They want to know everything. They want to monitor everyone. And they will stop at nothing to accomplish their goals.

But despite these obvious attempts to maintain tight, centralized control over the populace, the hacking community has never been one to just sit back and take it from the tyrants in charge. John McAfee, known for creating one of the first virus security programs for computers, has also been working on a new gadget that would create a “dark web” of interconnected devices designed to shield individuals from government monitoring. The device, according to McAfee would cost less than $100.

The cat is out of the bag with the ProxyHam and its abilities. It shouldn’t be long before source codes and blueprints for similar gadgets begin appearing on the open market.

The government can push all it wants. Freedom loving people will always push back.

 

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Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:34 | 6330320 FL_Conservative
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Nothing to see here, folks.  Please move along.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:38 | 6330331 barliman
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Something known to only a few goes down the memory hole ... and I presume anyone who knew anything significant is in the same hole.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:41 | 6330334 Supernova Born
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Corporatists and .gov in league to end open market competition, privacy and freedom.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:43 | 6330349 Latina Lover
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Other devices will be developed and released.  The corporate fascist .gov  cannot stop the eternal human yearning for freedom.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:45 | 6330351 Supernova Born
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Big .gov and big tech united against freedom.

Ever wonder what happened to the Microsoft anti-trust case?

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:49 | 6330362 Newsboy
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Purchased the whole business, production facilities and documents for a fair price...

NSA

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:55 | 6330380 Waylon Bits
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Not sure what layers of physical security/obscurity this device adds that aren't available already... there's already lots of open WiFi out there (or crackable WPS routers), use those with "macchanger -r wlan0" + TOR and you should be good.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:55 | 6330388 knukles
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Betcha somebody drums up a conspiracy theory about this.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:01 | 6330407 God
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God says: 900mhz is the problem.

You will never get a license.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:25 | 6330441 Mr. Ed
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Here lies an issue that affects the entire cyberworld:  the NSA/CIA/DHS/Etc... have deep pockets and can justify buying off almost anyone.  Ever wonder where the LINUX distro's with good working security are?  The publishers have all been bought off.  It's cheaper to "buy" a back door or a security flaw from the publisher than it is to hack one.

Same goes for apps, comm hardware, the works.  Integrity is sadly a rare thing these days.

Everybody's got a price.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:36 | 6330478 wee-weed up
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Neck, meet jackboot.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:56 | 6330509 usednabused
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Now we can fathom just how all the hacking comes from china and russia, lol, only first it comes from Langley. Can't have anyone else playing pin the tail on the donkey, can we now?

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 19:00 | 6330514 AlaricBalth
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Samy Kamkar’s ProxyGambit picks up where the defunct ProxyHam left off.

Move over ProxyHam, $235 ProxyGambit Anonymous Wi-Fi Surfing tool is here
Move over ProxyHam, $235 ProxyGambit Anonymous Wi-Fi Surfing tool is here 0
BY KAVITA IYER ON JULY 17, 2015 SECURITY NEWS, TECHNOLOGY
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Samy Kamkar’s ProxyGambit picks up where the defunct ProxyHam left off

Ben Caudill’s scheduled DEF CON demonstration of ProxyHam, a hardware proxy best suited for whistleblowers and others worried about online privacy, apparently got cancelled. On July 10, through his company Rhino Security Labs’ Twitter feed, Caudill announced that not only was his talk canceled, but source code for ProxyHam would not be released, existing devices were being disposed of and all development was at a standstill.

The sudden and unknown demise of the ProxyHam device disappointed the privacy advocates. Caudill has declined to disclose why his talk won’t be given, and while he’s been discouraged in moving forward with his project, others have not.

Samy Kamkar, a 29-year-old hardware hacker and entrepreneur who in the past seven months has hacked a USB charger to sniff keystrokes over the air and child’s toy to figure out garage door codes, has picked up the cause for devices like ProxyHam. Similar in concept to ProxyHam, Kamkar uncovered ProxyGambit this week at DEF CON and said that his device puts more distance between the user and the device than ProxyHam.

ProxyGambit, is a $235 device that lets people access an Internet connection from anywhere in the world without disclosing their IP address or true location. It’s radio link can offer a range of up to six miles, more than double the 2.5 miles of the ProxyHam. More importantly, it can use a reverse-tunneled GSM bridge that connects to the Internet and exits through a wireless network anywhere in the world, a capability that provides even greater range.
http://www.techworm.net/2015/07/samy-kamkars-proxygambit.html

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 19:09 | 6330528 macholatte
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Obama collecting personal data for a secret race database

 

A key part of President Obama’s legacy will be the fed’s unprecedented collection of sensitive data on Americans by race. The government is prying into our most personal information at the most local levels, all for the purpose of “racial and economic justice.”

 

Mon, 07/20/2015 - 02:50 | 6331570 the kings whore
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In other news, the sky is blue.  Of course our info is collected.  They do it to sell us stuff.  We're mindless consumers.

Mon, 07/20/2015 - 04:09 | 6331630 MisterMousePotato
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Not the first time. About a year (?) ago, the developers of a respected whole disk encryption program named Truecrypt suddenly announced that they were halting development. No explanation. Statements by the developers were cryptic at best. To me, it sounded like the sort of thing one would say if they were served with one of those super secret government subpeona things that, inter alia, required that one not even tell even a single person that they had been served.

Sorta like what happens when your friendly librarian is paid a visit by the Alphabets. Turn over your records and tell no one about it. Or else.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 19:26 | 6330563 TheEndIsNear
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I guess the thing that makes this desirable is that it works with smartphones, pads, and tablets. Internet proxies are old hat and widely available inexpensively and sometimes for free.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 20:40 | 6330742 palmereldritch
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If the ultimate goal of the Globalist's cashless society is the elimination of the privacy of commercial exchange then it becomes clear why the NSA's anti-terrorist focus takes such a bead on devices that ensure anonymity.

When most terrorist attacks are synthetic (e.g. 9/11) then the product of the response (NSA surveillance) discloses the true agenda.

Mon, 07/20/2015 - 07:51 | 6331877 ThanksChump
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Look at me over here on the right!

I feel kinda pinched over here. Is the extreme right supposed to feel like this? Gah.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 22:36 | 6331027 Super Hans
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I just wish he could tidy up his design; lots of lose wires and parts all over the place do not make for a marketable product.

How do we know that it works?

I've been looking into this for some time; more for just a personal privacy issue.

I'm not interested in TOR.

Nice post!  

I appreciate you're sharing.

Best,

SH

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 21:05 | 6330795 jerry_theking_lawler
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Exactly. Just a different form of jackboot (like a different form of soup lines in the USSA).

 

This is the problem. Transparency. If any agency, with any funding at all, does this it should be known. This way the public can determine the true nature of the .gov's intentions.

 

Not so in the real amerika. Here, .gov is king and can do as it pleases.....Constitution meet lighter.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 22:56 | 6331106 SixIsNinE
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along the same censorship lines, anthony patch recently announced that some gov folks convinced him that it would be best to shut up about CERN.

He had been doing interviews and gaining a strong following regarding all things CERN. 

Anyhow, if you are a TFR (truthfrequencyradio.com) member you can download all past interviews for those interested.  Looking forward to that 14+ Tev CERN blowout in September for the Shemitah!

 

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:58 | 6330398 Waylon Bits
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Perhaps "they" are concerned about not being able to take RF fingerprints of devices locally?

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 21:00 | 6330784 Occident Mortal
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The U.S. government classifies some technologies as "advanced technologies" which means the government has the right to secretly ban these technologies from all commercial use.

This sounds like conspiracy stuff but it's not.

On the BBC a few years ago (2012?) a British professor at University of Cambrige was doing an interview about a quantum computer he had been working on with U.S. Colleagues and he said he was amazed at the very low processor speeds they were claiming, 50GHz.

He said they had tested the tech to 50,000 GHz and it was very stable and could go much faster, then he blurted out on live radio that the U.S. government had threatened to class their work as "advanced technology" and therefore make it "not for commercial use".

He said his colleagues had capped the performance at a level agreed with US DOD so that they could continue their work.

It's obvious that a chip that performs so fast would alter cryptography assumptions.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:20 | 6330445 BlackMagician
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Does this apply to the masses that can't even change their home page?

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 19:25 | 6330561 seek
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Tor is quite likely compromised at this point. There was enough nonsense going on a year ago with bizarro-world nodes that I ceased all activities on it.

This (Hamproxy) incident is just one of many. Choke Point things are still going on (look at what happened to Backpage just the past couple weeks), there's so much stuff in TPP that Canada and the US are getting in a tiff over it, etc.

In the past six months I've seen more little signs of the creeping police state than I think I have in the prior 10 years. I'm hearing a lot more about people having personal encounters with it (like my own recent banking/credit card follies.)

I keep having a gut feeling something big is going to break in the next 12 months, but that's obviously not objective evidence. Shit is getting strange.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 19:42 | 6330595 Waylon Bits
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From what teh we has heard (from a reliable source with clearance) the FBI and other governments have purchased massive amounts of TOR nodes to do statistical traffic analysis.  How bad it is, we do not know.  If you go down in the deep web, at the very least be sure to have all Javascript, ActiveX and Flash totally disabled.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 19:52 | 6330617 MsCreant
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Is it possible that you are just getting more wise? Not that you were not before...

I keep being shocked how many more rabbit holes I am finding...

Like LSD, I've tripped so many times at this point, I would be legally insane in a court of law. 

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 22:38 | 6331044 TheReplacement
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That scenario might only apply to the thinnest of majorities if a majority at all. 

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:32 | 6330472 slightlyskeptical
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Anyone who has a problem with this shouldn't. In our brand of capitalism you always take the best deal. After all, all work should be completely about profit.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 19:56 | 6330626 MsCreant
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You get more skeptical.

The government intervening is not capitalism. It is trying to maintain a monopoly for itself on information. They also have force (a veritable army, paid for by our tax dollars [yours and mine, extracted from us by force]) and the bought and paid for "law" on their side.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 20:33 | 6330720 g speed
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however the gov't is completely unable to protect it's self from--------------it's self--

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 22:26 | 6331003 fascismlover
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In this case the better deal was likely that his family would not be murdered in front of him and before him.  That was the bigger better deal.  What we are dealing with globally now is Hitler's wet dream of control and elimination of waste...and it is only just getting warmed up.  If you have another planet somewhere, now is the time to bug out there.   

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:50 | 6330363 phoolish
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Well yea.  The goal is to protect us from that hate us for a phreedoms.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:09 | 6330425 greenskeeper carl
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if 'they' ever hated us for our freedoms, they must love us now.

 

"the rest of the world does not 'hate us for our freedoms'. democrats and republicans hate us because of our freedom. The rest of the world hates us because of our democrats and republicans"

-don't remember who said that, but truer words have never been spoken.

Mon, 07/20/2015 - 11:47 | 6332743 detached.amusement
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The ever useful pronoun - anyone consider that "THEY" means the forces of Fascism, Banksters, et al?

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:49 | 6330354 remain calm
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Obviously the thought that Merkel might get her hands on one of these scares the living shit out of the US Government.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:27 | 6330454 garcam123
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Latina Lover: Like your handle - Me 2! Especially Puerto Ricanias! I been through a herd of em! Scorchin Fine, jealous as fuck, clean clean and more clean, and diddle at the drop of a hat!

I'm between just now but thinkin of going back. I need some hotness in my life again... San Juan, Condado.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 19:09 | 6330531 Jack Burton
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WTF is up man?

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 19:08 | 6330529 Jack Burton
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My thoughts too Latina. I can see the Russian High Tech sector jumping all over this technology. My dream would be mass production in Russia or outsourced to China. Build so many and flood the world with them. The fucking ass lickers at the NSA could chase all over the planet trying to clean them out! Washington would piss all over it'self if these devices could be mass produced somewhere.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 19:30 | 6330569 seek
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I think you're operating under the assumption NSA is worried about these things getting deployed overseas. While I'm sure they're not thrilled, I don't think there's any doubt the goal is to prevent anything like this from showing up in the US.

I fully expect to see anti-anonymization laws passed in the US shortly, even if they can't get their no-encryption policy shoved through. The state is entering total freakout monkey-mode, I can only imagine that either they know something is going to happen that we don't (and that they can't stop), or the circle-jerk is complete and they've fully disconnected themselves from reality.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 20:30 | 6330714 sleigher
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"Other devices will be developed and released.  The corporate fascist .gov  cannot stop the eternal human yearning for freedom."

 

You don't say...

 

http://samy.pl/proxygambit/

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 21:05 | 6330794 PirateOfBaltimore
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Sounds like broadband hammnet, but without repurposing routers, and using a diff. Frequrncy.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:40 | 6330337 Aussiekiwi
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I agree, the Government loves you from cradle to grave, just go along with the program, and don't forget ALWAYS buy the dip.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:41 | 6330341 Jumbotron
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And when they silence Fight Club (ZeroHedge)....we'll all be duking it out in the REAL Fight Club.

 

Real Fight Club in NYC

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3166317/Real-life-fight-club-mod...

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:51 | 6330365 Jumbotron
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While you were sleeping
They came and took it all away
The lanes and the meadows
The places where you used to play

It was an inside job
By the well-connected
Your little protest
Summarily rejected

It was an inside job
Like it always is
Chalk it up to business as usual

While we are dreaming
This little island disappears
While you are looking the other way
They'll take your right to own your own ideas

And it's an inside job
Favors collected
Your trusted servants
Have left you unprotected

It was an inside job
Like it always is
Just chalk it up
To business as usual

You think that you're so smart
But you don't have a fucking clue
What those men up in the towers
Are doing to me and you
And they'll keep doin' it and doin' it
And doin' it and doin' it
And doin' it and doin' it
And doin' it and doin' it
Until we all wake up
Wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up

I know what I've done wrong
I am acquainted with the night
I know how hard it is
To always walk out in the light

And it's an inside job
To learn about forgiving
It's an inside job
To hang on to the joy of living

They know the road by which you came
They know your mother's maiden name
And what you had for breakfast
And what you've hidden in the mattress

Insect politics
Indifferent universe
Bang your head against the wall
But apathy is worse

It's an inside job
It's an inside job
It's an inside job
Yeh, yeah

Don Henley - Inside Job

1990

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:57 | 6330394 ebworthen
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Yup, the black Suburban's showed up at the Company and Mom's house.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:22 | 6330451 Beowulf55
Sun, 07/19/2015 - 20:37 | 6330733 Overfed
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Funny that something like that comes from Henley, who is a dyed in the wool statist libtard.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 22:44 | 6331063 TheReplacement
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People like him are anti-establishment when Republicans are in charge.  Just goes to show that even idiots on the other side of the divide don't get that there is no divide.

No spoon.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:55 | 6330384 booboo
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I have a proven method of defeating government intrusion and I am going to post the schematics in this thread in a few minutes.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:00 | 6330406 U4 eee aaa
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Nice try. They still aren't cutting you a check

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:07 | 6330410 booboo
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Here you go.

http://www.do-it-yourself-help.com/wiring_receptacles.html

 

Here is one I have been using for years

http://libraryonline.com/

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:20 | 6330444 rubiconsolutions
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“I PRESENT CANNEDHAM, A HARDWARE DEVICE WHICH UTILIZES BOTH STRING AND TWO TIN CANS TO FACILITATE PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS IN A POINT-TO-POINT MODE."

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 21:53 | 6330903 FreedomGuy
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No problem. There are thousands of excellent skeptical reporters in the main stream media which will track this down and get back to us on what happened and why. Why they have been to the best journalism schools in the country where they are trained to "make a difference". They are not mere leftist hacks, schills and apologists as many of you narrow-minded types assert. They are the best and brightest and most dedicated and capable of writing and reasoning at at least a sixth grade level.

I am sure we will find the truth soon and you conspiracy types will be put to shame, yet, again.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 23:51 | 6331284 glenlloyd
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They will never tell you to please move along, it'll just be move along...or it gets the hose...

Mon, 07/20/2015 - 05:24 | 6331688 ebear
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"Nothing to see here, folks."

That may actually be true. Maybe they withdrew because they had nothing to show and couldn't keep the charade going any longer?

Cold fusion, anyone?

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:35 | 6330323 order66
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Can't wait to see Kevin Mitnick on CNN commenting on this as the expert.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:54 | 6330382 Oldwood
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I was trying to hide something but for the life of me I can't remember what it was and I can't find it!

The vast majority of us have nothing to hide, and as such most have not felt particularly threatened by this surveillance. The real threat is that their denied but omnipotent capacities give them an incontrovertible credibility. If the government says you did or said something, with today's technology they can present it as proof and NO ONE has the ability to refute it. This is nearly the equivalent of a gun to our head.

How many fingers am I holding up??

How ever many they say, right?

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:57 | 6330395 The Delicate Genius
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"In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. And what was terrifying was not that they would kill you for thinking otherwise, but that they might be right. For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable—what then?"

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 19:41 | 6330591 Oldwood
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Their goal is to be THE arbiter of truth. Their statistics say what  they want to say, and not only is it deliberate misinformation but it tells us what we see is not to be believed....all anecdotal observations are just that, anecdotal, not actual. Believe nothing but what they tell us to believe, the ultimate arbiter of truth.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:20 | 6330448 phaedrus1952
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Oldwood

A few months before he was assassinated (1980?), green beret colonel cutolo described in an affidavit, among other things, an extensive eavesdropping/surveillance operation which he supervised.

The targets included thousands of local police departments, judiciary at all levels, prosecutors' offices, various religious personnel/instititions esp Catholic and LDS.

The blackmail potential explains much of the bizarro world in which we live.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 19:36 | 6330551 Lost Word
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Cutolo affidavit

http://beforeitsnews.com/libertarian/2013/08/colonel-edward-p-cutolos-af...

Mentions US Government drug smuggling, murders, spying on thousands of people for political reasons, or cover-up surveilance reasons, and including spying on members of Bilderberg and Trilateral Commision.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 20:47 | 6330754 logicalman
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I owe you an apology.

I recently doubted your intelligence.

Dead on with this.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 21:57 | 6330918 Oldwood
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We can be intelligent and still be crazy.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 22:01 | 6330934 FreedomGuy
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If you are a serious political opponent and threat to the power base they will suddenly find your PC's, laptop and phone overflowing with snuff films, kiddie porn and stolen SSN's. You will then get notices from the IRS and a dozen other agencies that you are in violation and under audit.Then your Obamacare records will show you had an STD that your spouse did not have and calls to known prostitutes from your cell phone. Your opponent will remark how sad and unfortunate the whole affair is while trying not to smile.

It will be so easy, really. It will be like the film The Imagination Game in reverse. At NSA-FBI-DEA-ICE-IRS-ETC., HQ they will pick who and how you go down. It cannot be done all the time or people will get suspicious. They will have to use statistical analyses and even occasionally take down a fellow statist. That will be easy because several of them probably actually do have all that stuff on their electronics.

The future is great, comrades.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:36 | 6330325 Amish Hacker
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If I say I want one, do I end up at camp?

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:42 | 6330340 Aussiekiwi
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Too expensive, accidents are cheaper

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:43 | 6330346 Ms. Erable
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So are bullets. And they have hundreds of millions of them, if not billions.

Mon, 07/20/2015 - 05:46 | 6331709 MisterMousePotato
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In fact, they have billions. As in two point (I forget the number exactly). By they, I mean DHS. No, not the Army. Not the Airforce. Just our friendly ol' safeguard the Homeland folks.

So just how much, exactly, is two point something billion rounds?

Well, consider that the U.S. military currently uses about 89 million rounds a year. To fight umpteen wars and whatever.

So, measured thus, two point something billion rounds is enough to keep the U.S. military going for about three decades.

That seems like a lot.

How 'bout this ... The largest ship in the U.S. Navy right now (other than aircraft carriers, obviously) are the Aegis class missle something or others. Big fuckers made out of metal. Stick out of the water like the Empire State Building. You know what I'm talking about.

Anyway, two point something billion rounds like those that DHS bought to protect our children weigh about as much ... as three such ships.

That, too, seems like a lot.

Thats about seven or eight rounds for every single man, woman, child, Caitlyn, and illegal here in the United States. Clearly they're not planning on taking out just a few Muslims.

So I wonder just who it is they are planning on killing? (Which is what the rounds they purchased are designed to do.) At first, I thought maybe it's to keep the peace in the big cities. But, you know? If we can pacify multiple nations full of fully automatic armed death to america types with just 89 million rounds, two point something billion rounds just seems kinda excessive for keeping the peace at the Detroit WalMart.

So I wonder just who it is they are planning on killing? (I mean, besides me.)

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:37 | 6330329 MontgomeryScott
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Um, 'National Insecurity' reasons.

All your digits are belong to US!

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:37 | 6330330 trader1
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The Internet is a public space with no reasonable expectation of privacy, or?

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:38 | 6330332 Payne
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imagine all the shovel ready jobs lost due to security.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:39 | 6330333 Soul Glow
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The Bildebergers are scrambling for control while their economy hangs by a thread.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:55 | 6330387 U4 eee aaa
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If they would just focus on one or the other they might actually accomplish something in life

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:39 | 6330335 Duc888
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They (USA / NSA) hate us for our Free-dums.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:42 | 6330339 RogerMud
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fascinating story but...DefCon is still 20 days away.

   "Just hours before Caudill was to reveal a fully-functioning ProxyHam at the DefCon hacking conference"

 

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:14 | 6330434 NotApplicable
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Soooo... less than 500 hours then.
Missed it by that much.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:43 | 6330347 Dixie Flatline
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https://threatpost.com/samy-kamkars-proxygambit-picks-up-for-defunct-pro...

Samy Kamkar, a 29-year-old hacker and entrepreneur who has in the past seven months hacked a child’s toy to figure out garage door codes and hacked a USB charger to sniff keystrokes over the air, has picked up the cause for devices like ProxyHam. This week he unveiled ProxyGambit, similar in concept to ProxyHam but Kamkar said his device puts more distance between the user and the device than ProxyHam.

See more at: Samy Kamkar’s ProxyGambit Picks Up for Defunct ProxyHam https://wp.me/p3AjUX-tC0

 

http://hackaday.com/2015/07/14/how-to-build-a-proxyham-despite-a-cancell...

 

The idea the ProxyHam was cancelled because of a National Security Letter is beyond absurd. This build uses off the shelf components in the manner they were designed. It is a violation of the Computer Fraud & Abuse Act, and using encryption over radio violates FCC regulations. That’s illegal, it will get you a few federal charges, but so will blowing up a mailbox with some firecrackers.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:55 | 6330386 Dixie Flatline
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This ain't a hit on ZH, but that is a classic FUD(Fear, Uncertainty,Doubt) headline with one purpose.  Clicks/pageviews.

"Do your children play outside?  They may be at elevated risks of nuclear, radiological, biological, and chemical attack.  Tune in at 10pm to see what you can do to save their life."

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 20:51 | 6330763 logicalman
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We're all terminal - no way to save anyone's life in the long run.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:59 | 6330400 RogerMud
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"It is a violation of the Computer Fraud & Abuse Act, and using encryption over radio violates FCC regulations."

 

Not entirely true. Amateur radio is subject to limits on encryption, but ProxyHam was designed to use FCC Part 15, which is not subject to those limits.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:05 | 6330417 Dixie Flatline
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The article I linked at hackaday also states:

That’s how you build a ProxyHam. That’s also how to violate the FCC Part 97 prohibition against encryption – you can not use SSH or HTTPS over amateur radio. It’s also how you can be charged with the Computer Fraud & Abuse Act; connecting to a library’s WiFi from miles away is most certainly, “exceeding authorized access.”

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 20:52 | 6330766 seek
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The article fundamentally misunderstands the device. The two bands selected, 2.4 and 900MHz, are license-free, and the creators of the device specifically call out the 900 MHz transmitter as being power-limited to 1 watt -- a restriction that only exists for part 15 devices, not for part 97. The is no legal restriction on encryption for part 15.

So either the article is FUD or whoever is writing it and stating these things has no clue what they're talking about.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 19:04 | 6330516 rejected
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Everything's illegal today.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 20:07 | 6330634 Dr. Everett V. Scott
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"Everything's illegal today."

Everything except abortion.  That's A-OK.

Terminating a kid is far more acceptable than capital punishment for a serial killer.

Is society screwed up, or what?

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:45 | 6330350 honestann
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Repeat after me...

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NEVER PRE-ANNOUNCE THIS KIND OF DEVICE.
NEVER PRE-ANNOUNCE THIS KIND OF DEVICE.
NEVER PRE-ANNOUNCE THIS KIND OF DEVICE.
NEVER PRE-ANNOUNCE THIS KIND OF DEVICE.
NEVER PRE-ANNOUNCE THIS KIND OF DEVICE.
NEVER PRE-ANNOUNCE THIS KIND OF DEVICE.
NEVER PRE-ANNOUNCE THIS KIND OF DEVICE.
NEVER PRE-ANNOUNCE THIS KIND OF DEVICE.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:53 | 6330375 JohninMK
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Never send an email or make a phone call when developing this kind of device.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 19:26 | 6330564 HowdyDoody
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Unless you want the CIA/NSA/FBI to buy you out.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 20:56 | 6330775 Mr. Ed
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You are correct sir!

Mon, 07/20/2015 - 17:17 | 6334159 honestann
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These kinds of devices are easy to design and implement.  The only problem I'd have is deciding which of the many possible approaches to take.

You guys almost make me think I should design an even better version of what he's talking about [that maybe doesn't even require wifi or alternate paths] and let somebody else front the project and split the revenues with me.

Tempting!  What an easy way to make a pile of gold.

OTOH, maybe not wise for someone who lives where nobody knows, and never wants any attention from the predators-that-be.

Oh well...

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:45 | 6330352 Bingo Hammer
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I wonder just how many revolutionary ideas, devices and technologies etc have been ruthlessly suppressed over the last 500 hundred years?

Coral Castle, the NAZI "Bell Project", so much of Tesla's work, Wilhelm Reich etc etc all to keep the masses near comatosed, with the elites controlling and continuing on their trajectory towards the "breakaway civilization" as expounded first by Richard Dolan then Catherine Austin-Fitts, Dr. Joseph P. Farrell and many others.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:45 | 6330353 BouncingCat
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Interesting concept, but with all the free wi-fi around and free VPNs available, assuming you use a clean computer (say, Chromebook) that you've never registered with the manufacturer and an OS (linux) that you've never registered with its manufacturer, tell me how this is different.  Unless, of course, the government oulaws open wi-fi access points, ie, make it a felony to not have a ID and password required.

I don't doubt that it could be true the govt shut this guy down, but it seems a waste of time.  Many others will build these things and make them available.

Mon, 07/20/2015 - 05:17 | 6331679 fiftybagger
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Try to sign up a new email address without a cell phone these days.

 

 

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:46 | 6330356 wesson
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there is also another probable explanation that is still a valid hypothesis: ProxyHam being in fact vaporware.

And no, 900 MHz radio doesn't provide enough bandwith to serve as a viable support for WIFI bands (both 2.5 and 5 Ghz)

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:50 | 6330361 RogerMud
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probable..no, valid..no, and 900 MHz spread spectrum provides more than enough bandwidth.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:58 | 6330392 wesson
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Nyquist-Shannon theorem does not agree with you my friend. 

Not even mentionning the fact that 900 MHz band is not free.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:53 | 6330376 motorollin
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Yes, it does. It's not much, but it's something. I used to deploy 900MHz WISP gear. We served 3 and 6 mbps connections with it. There were an average of 15 radios connected to a single 900MHz AP.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:04 | 6330412 wesson
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It's ok for personal use, from point A to point B, but for widespread application provided to anyone, it's just not enough, no matter what you can cheat with compression and spread spectrum.

 

As I"m not impressed by a pile of electronics in a shoe carton with 3 ham radio antenna on top of it, my best guess is vapourvare. Sorry if one is disappointed with that.

Mon, 07/20/2015 - 05:45 | 6331708 ebear
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Looks like an orgone accumulator to me.

or maybe a cold fusion device?

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:58 | 6330401 The Delicate Genius
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compression ain't what it used to be, eh?

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:09 | 6330424 wesson
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Compression operate on data that is not already heavily compressed.

For H264/H265 video, MP3/AAC audio (and in fact, basically all AV formats), nothing will further compress without losses.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:18 | 6330439 The Delicate Genius
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who goes analog to digital in the post space age, baby?

Entropy is a helluva drug.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:51 | 6330369 smacker
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"The government can push all it wants. Freedom loving people will always push back."

How many "freedom loving people" are left?

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:52 | 6330373 U4 eee aaa
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Well, there's you and there is me

Mon, 07/20/2015 - 05:46 | 6331710 ebear
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The freedom loving people are mostly pushing shopping carts.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:51 | 6330370 U4 eee aaa
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And another conspiracy theory springs to life (soon to be called conspiracy FACT)

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:52 | 6330371 motorollin
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In the spirit of open source, this project is being continued as ProxyGambit: https://threatpost.com/samy-kamkars-proxygambit-picks-up-for-defunct-pro...

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:22 | 6330442 MontgomeryScott
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From the article:

"Caudill has refused to reveal why his talk won't be given, and while he's BEEN DETERRED in moving forward with his project, others have not."

Not YET, anyway.

Caudill has refused to reveal why his talk won’t be given, and while he’s been deterred in moving forward with his project, others have not. - See more at: https://threatpost.com/samy-kamkars-proxygambit-picks-up-for-defunct-pro... Caudill has refused to reveal why his talk won’t be given, and while he’s been deterred in moving forward with his project, others have not. - See more at: https://threatpost.com/samy-kamkars-proxygambit-picks-up-for-defunct-pro... Caudill has refused to reveal why his talk won’t be given, and while he’s been deterred in moving forward with his project, others have not. - See more at: https://threatpost.com/samy-kamkars-proxygambit-picks-up-for-defunct-pro... Caudill has refused to reveal why his talk won’t be given, and while he’s been deterred in moving forward with his project, others have not. - See more at: https://threatpost.com/samy-kamkars-proxygambit-picks-up-for-defunct-pro...
Mon, 07/20/2015 - 05:48 | 6331712 ebear
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Has he got an agent yet?

Mon, 07/20/2015 - 04:24 | 6330372 Taint Boil
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Riiiiight .........um, OK. Looks legit

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:53 | 6330377 The Delicate Genius
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nuts and bolts already on the internet.... the parts of the web that aren't google mapped....

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:56 | 6330391 U4 eee aaa
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how are the Feds supposed to find it then?

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:53 | 6330378 Barry McBear
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They paid the guy off by using a fraction of the money the NSA/CIA siphons out of the markets.  Astonishing the amount of money you can make when you have a backdoor at the CME.  They know trader ID's which gives a clear picture of order flow (ie what the big boys & smart money are doing), they know the trigger price of every stop order so they can calculate when it's worthwhile to "run stops", they also know the trader ID's of the "dumb money" (ie guys who trade size with money that can be easily taken by pushing the market against them, ask Nav about this, he was on to them... oh wait he's rotting in jail now), etc.  And I'm only talking about the backdoor at the CME.  I imagine they have backdoors all over: NYSE, ICE, Nasdaq, maybe even Eurex and more. Needless to say, every black op is easily funded without using taxpayer money, lol.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:58 | 6330399 U4 eee aaa
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It's like backgammon vs. the computer. You are forced to play with cold hard logic based on the roll of the dice. That's the only way you can beat these guys now because they control all the information

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:54 | 6330379 me or you
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I don't buy it 

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 17:58 | 6330396 sagitarius
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I do not see any use of that unit.

I use/now and then/ bitmessage, GnuPG to transfer a sensitive message, if really needed over the wire. Otherwise a personal contact. Thats it.

Mon, 07/20/2015 - 05:51 | 6331716 ebear
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This also works:

http://www.pigeongram.com/

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:04 | 6330413 danster82
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Best PR proxyham could of got, now its will definatley happen.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:05 | 6330414 quasi_verbatim
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Whoever finally brings this gizmo to market had better improve the packaging.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:05 | 6330415 proLiberty
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This announcement will only spur others to replicate and then surpass this device. One possible route is via crowds who are willing to allow their smartphones to be autonomous gateways to a self-organizing mesh network that works outside of the internet.

See for example opengarden.com

What about "secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects" is hard to understand? Come back when you have a warrant. Meanwhile, get off of my property.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:14 | 6330433 OneTinTrooper
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With closed systems and hand delivery of data to every house, there is no fucking way they could stop a revolution.  The trick is going to be getting everyone off the fucking grid, back to cash, and back to local neighborhood control. 

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:11 | 6330427 CHC
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If this guy were a banker he would have been nail-gunned or thrown out a 15 story window.  Lucky him. 

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:14 | 6330432 Raul44
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Today, best, safest and legal counteraction is to form a LAN network(connecting multiple houses) with a NAT server accessing internet. My friend work at criminal police and last time he was at the cyber-security course, experts agreed this is their biggest nightmare they are powerless against. Of course, this have nothing to do with mail privacy etc but rather what mentioned device was supposed to do: identifying source of traffic. If you want this protection, start advocating in your area for private LAN networks(or launch your own with a friends and get as many people to join as possible).

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:17 | 6330437 OneTinTrooper
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All important information should be delivered by hand either on foot or by horse.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:15 | 6330435 goldhedge
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Dead men walking.  There is no fucking way "they" are going to let them live for very long.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 19:06 | 6330522 unicorn
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relax. they cant stop evolution;)

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:22 | 6330452 ThrowAwayYourTV
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I only have two questions.

(1) Was this guy any relation to Nikola Tesla?

(2) Did he know or have anything at all to do with any relative of JP Morgain?

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:27 | 6330462 BruntFCA
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LOL. When will these people learn already. Just build the fucking thing and release the code. Anyone who announces this crap from the top of the tree-tops is gonna get fucked. Look at what happened to Breitbart.

Mon, 07/20/2015 - 05:27 | 6331692 fiftybagger
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You mean like Satoshi Nakamoto?

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:30 | 6330467 antidisestablis...
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I've developed a machine that turns lead into gold and next month I'll be selling the design plans.

 

 

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 19:49 | 6330613 Lost Word
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Handgun pointed at a Gold dealer?

Mon, 07/20/2015 - 00:19 | 6331363 Oh regional Indian
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Haaha...very clever LostW...

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:52 | 6330496 Fahque Imuhnutjahb
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Just as Big Oil squashed any innovations that threatened their revenue stream, so too does Big Info.(facebook, google, verizon, etc.) squash what they deem a threat; complicitly executed by Big Nanny so they can get their cut.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:53 | 6330502 brucekeller
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We'll probably be able to buy a cheap copy of it from dealextreme in another few months.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 19:20 | 6330549 Fahque Imuhnutjahb
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Yeah, you can get the version that is allowed on the market, the one with the backdoor hacker accessibility.  Just like when the kids were told snap chats only last 3 secs. and then magically disappear with no traceability.

Sure that's how it works, so go ahead and lay it all on the line, while feeling secure in doing so.   So many folks have stopped believing in God and Santa that Big Bro. feels obligated to fill the role of the

omnipotent/omniscient being who knows who's naughty and nice, and can make this world your hell, if you don't believe in the afterlife version.  The key is to be a boring bastard like myself, who at worst makes a bunch

of cynical, jaded remarks on select blog sites, or rubs one out to youporn.  I'm the guy the NSA agent with insomnia surveils when off duty and out of Ambien.  Now if I could just refrain from knocking the chosen I'd be

all good, but damn it I just can't help myself, somebody needs to wake 'em up before someone a hell of a lot meaner than me goose steps up to them and kicks their ass.  Did you get that Zuckerberg/Yellen et. al.?

 

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:55 | 6330505 misnomer
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Question:

How long until he gets suicided???

 

*may be rhetorical

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 18:57 | 6330511 johnlocke445
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Whether this person backed out from threats or payoffs, he is a traitor to humanity. If I was threatened with my life I would release the information anyway as I really don't want to live in a world like the one headed our way anyway.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 19:07 | 6330523 Latitude25
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Pretty simple system really.  Hidden in your local Starbucks is a small dedicated brick computer with a WIFI adapter and 900 Mhz radio with antenna which basically transmits that WIFI signal over a much longer distance.  A few blocks away are you and your laptop with another 900Mhz radio plugged into your ethernet port receiving that Starbucks signal.  OK great so you are not in Starbucks plotting your crime.  You are a few blocks away and as soon as you start surfing the web your profile and preferences become recognizable to the NSA.  So no they don't find you in Starbucks but they're looking for you and you're not far away.  Good luck.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 19:14 | 6330542 Chuck Knoblauch
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"Borrowing" a book from the library is probably safer.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 21:56 | 6330916 PoasterToaster
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Obviously the only people who value their personal privacy are nefarious ne'er-do-wells twirling their mustaches and plotting the takeover of the world.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 19:11 | 6330540 Chuck Knoblauch
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Sounds like he got paid well.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 19:23 | 6330559 unicorn
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nice paper why privacy matters:

http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/97690/MIT-CSAIL-TR-2015-02...

 

written by nice people like Bruce Schneier;)

 

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 19:24 | 6330560 HEY YOU
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EVERYONE! Remember to vote for Republicans & Democrats or other pretzel logic political theology as they would never allow an invansion of one's privacy.

U.S.A,U.S.A.,U.S.A.! We be loving us some U.S. Constitution.

FMTT

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 19:32 | 6330574 scatha
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Publicity stunt that's all. Just wait for bitcoin investors (fools) rush in after "somebody" crack their wallets and corrupted proof of work on 51% of nodes. A hint: CitiBank;

The IP protocol was designed by (D)ARPA in 1950-ties to be traceable as a requirement and a spec.

Only dropping IP protocol would do for sure.

Also is possible to drop current ways of routing (IP) messages (packets) designed to to be able google funeral parlors during nuclear attack. We do not need this type of redundancy now. NSA does.

Or avoid routing completely, by broadcasting encrypted IP headers directly  from/to open access satellites and down to network if necessary. Only those with appropriate private keys be able to receive message with no encoded source but satellite ID. 

In truth anything short of complete redesign of networking concepts would do as far as privacy is concerned, anything else is just an illusion or temporary band aid.

 

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 19:35 | 6330578 kchrisc
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"Benjamin Caudill"

Shyster or silenced?

Your guess is a good as any.

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 20:24 | 6330701 Atomizer
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Fucked up. My fingers were working faster than refreshing phase. I down voted you by accident. Two up votes for my mistake.  

Mon, 07/20/2015 - 06:04 | 6331730 ebear
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"Shyster or silenced?"

Why not both?

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 21:35 | 6330586 Moccasin
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They left everything on the table. Rumor suggests the plans are floating about the net. I am busy looking for them :-) . Even with out their plans they showed their cards, the method and technique of hiding the network connection is by creating a wireless 900mhz back haul proxy and a LAN at 2.4ghz wifi. Bottom line is they dropped the ball or got bought out, they are not talking. In any event the cat is out of the bag, everyone who gives a shit about such devices knows they were on to something good. It won't be long and another vendor of good ideas will supply it.

Sun, 07/19/2015 - 19:39 | 6330587 tttan
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The government bought the code for national security reason ??? to prevent foreigners or terrorists from acquiring it. but another smart alex will create another one to sell to the government.  Why do you think some foreign government went along with Obama or why some republicans folded recently against Obama like Boehner and a few others.. The administration has used the NSA to hold them hostage. Maybe the Russians or the Iranians have something on Obama to make agree on the NUclear deal.  Everything is possible. Maybe we have a trojan horse in the white house

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