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"The Streets Of Athens Will Fill With Tanks": Kathimerini Reveals Grexit "Black Book" Shocker
Over the course of six painful months, round after round of fraught negotiations between Greece and its creditors produced all manner of speculation about what a "Grexit" would actually entail.
With no precedent to turn to for guidance, mapping out the implications of an exit from the currency bloc was (and still is) a virtually impossible task, but the collective efforts of the sellside, the mainstream media, political analysts, and economists did manage to produce a veritable smorgasbord of diagrams, decision trees, flowcharts, and schematics, in a futile attempt to map the complex interplay of politics, economics, and financial concerns that would invariably follow if Athens decided to finally break off its ill-fated relationship with Brussels.
And it wasn’t just outside observers drawing up Grexit plans. Despite the fact that EU officials denied the existence of a “Plan B” right up until German FinMin Wolfgang Schaeuble’s “swift time-out” alternative was “leaked” last weekend, no one outside of polite eurocrat circles pretends that a Greek exit wasn’t contemplated all along and indeed Yanis Varoufakis contends that Athens was threatened with capital controls as early as February if it did not acquiesce to creditor demands.
Now, in what is perhaps the most shocking revelation yet about what EU officials really thought may happen in the event Greece crashed out of the EMU and unceremoniously reintroduced the drachma, Kathimerini is out with a description of what the Greek daily calls the "Grexit Black Book," which purportedly contained the suggestion that civil war would breakout in Greece in the event the country was forced out of the currency bloc.
Here’s more (Google translated):
On the 13th floor of the building Verlaymont in Brussels, a few meters from the office of the European Commission President, Jean-Claude Juncker, stored in a special security room and in a safe Greece's exit plan from the Eurozone. There, in a multi-page volume, written in less than a month from 15-member team of the European Commission, answered questions on how to tackle such an outflow, including, as shocking as it may sound, even the possibility of the country out of the Treaty Schengen, and not only being driven outside the euro, but also outside the EU
According to European official, in that the European Commission Summit already had a bound volume, a multi-page document, which described the Greek prime minister, before the start of the session, by the same Mr. Juncker with all the details of a Grexit , giving him to understand the legal and political context of such a decision. In multipage document in accordance with European official who has the ability to know its contents, there are detailed answers to 200 questions that would arise in case Grexit.
These questions, as he explains official, are interrelated, as an exit from the euro would create a cascade of events, which would evolve in a relatively short time. From the drachmopoiisi economy to foreign exchange controls that would take place at the country's borders and which will ultimately lead at the exit of Greece from the Schengen Treaty.
The authors of the draft, according to European official, conducted under conditions of absolute secrecy. A special group of 15 people of the European Commission, by direct contact with Greece started to prepare, and was also in direct contact with a number of senior officials and DGs in the European Commission who had expertise in specific areas. The writing of the project started when the expiry date of the program (end of June) was approaching, so it is the Commission prepared for every eventuality, and by the time the referendum was announced, Friday, June 26, the relevant procedures were accelerated. The weekend of the work referendum intensified, so now two days later, Tuesday of that Synod, the project has been finalized.
According to well-informed source, involved in creating the plan worked "suffer the pain" as typically describe the "K" and "overwhelmed" because they could not believe that things had reached this point, and most of them had direct involvement with the Greek rescue programs. The European Commission also was hoped that even until the last minute solution would be found as members of this group knew better than anyone the consequences exit of Greece from the Eurozone and understand the cost of such a decision. One of those involved with direct knowledge of Greek reality in the critical phase of the training, he said the rest of the group that "if implemented this plan, the streets of Athens will sound tracks of tanks."
Sight unseen, it's not entirely clear what is meant by "will sound the tracks of tanks," and we assume the suggestion is not that the EU and its constituent member states would somehow seek to orchestrate a military takeover of the Greek state in the event Athens makes the 'wrong' decision about EMU membership.
Rather, the suggestion seems to be - and again this is simply an interpretation based on the information presented by Kathimerini - that Brussels was of the opinion that the referendum results together with the divergent rhetoric emanating from Greek lawmakers on the right and far-left betrayed the degree to which the Greek people were deeply divided. Although Tsipras' concessions will undoubtedly have far-reaching implications for politics and Greek society in general, it looks as though Brussels feared that the economic malaise that would have resulted from redenomination might have triggered widespread social unrest that would ultimately have to be brought under control by the Greek army.
We'll leave it to readers to determine both the accuracy of our interpretation and the degree to which the "secret" document's mention of "tanks" represented an accurate assessment of the situation versus yet another attempt to scare Tsipras into capitulating, but one thing is for sure, even mentioning the possibility that "the streets of Athens" will be occupied by the military doesn't seem like something one "partner" would say to another.
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WTF, over??
Get the Junta back ASAP..
Greece was a wonderful, economical place back in the day..
Dump the EU,,, NOW!
Cue the Greek crisis endgame:
France’s Hollande Proposes Creation of Euro-Zone Government
As I stated before, this was the plan all along.
YEs. Oui. This whole fucking Greek tragedy was a really shitty sneak preiview to some shitty French film subtitled in German.
What's with these globalists and their tanks (Paulson)?
We’re all Greek now
You'll be Greek when you sense the butthurt
Obligatory South Park reference -
Aand it's gone!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DT7bX-B1Mg
Oh yes, classic.. but I think this one is better. heh heh....
Good for the poor F's in Greece..
HOW MUCH FOR THE LITTLE GIRL.. HOW MUCH FOR THE WOMEN???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLUiK2lbN2s
Has anyone noticed the gold price, of is everybody still living in denial that cash will be king and that we're entering a deflationary spiral?
who will come up with the solution to the world wide rothschilds debt enslavement trap?
Enough of the hyperbole. The Greeks will do exactly as their masters bid. They will fall into line. Suck it, Hedgers.
Do not worry about Greece and their people - they are acclimatized to their poverty. During this whole sell out there was nary a riot or protest through the whole country.
Worry very much about America - for her people will riot en masse very soon when the financial collapse comes by an elite pen or an earthquake. The USSA will be the one with troops on her streets in six months. But the biggest shock will be when those troops get shoot to kill orders when the rioting masses quit burning down their own neighborhoods and start looting the elites and *there* wealth..
The Great Reset will sweep the entire globe. Many of the rich, and some preppers, already have their bugout locations ready to go. The rest of humanity will face the scythe.
The Greek People are the Victims of a Carefully Engineered Financial Extortion Racket
Clearly a veiled threat of German Panzers rolling through the streets of Athens on their way to collect what they think is theirs.
As for the hardass Schauble with his scowling face, where would the Germans today be if it wern't for years of protection from American military forces?
I was living in Albania in '96 when their (very new and fragile) market economy collapsed when several large Ponzi schemes failed. Yes, tanks rolled, yes, people died. Although there was extreme pain, it was all apart of their evolution to a better economic model. Apples and oranges? Yes. But my point is that there are times when this type of upheaval is the only way to establish a better way. When I left Albania it was every young persons dream to go to Greece to work, much like Mexicans coming to the U.S.
It could be worse.. Churchill's ghost could come back and hire Nazi's to shoot Greeks in from roof tops .. not like that has happened before.
Ahhhh...Nuland is Churchill, reincarnated.
WTF.. some clown is out there that probably went to the Obama School of History...
but the evil, dead Churchill woke up one morning sober, but Nuland is still ugly.
A Top 40 Greek hit on the way I think.........
Tanks For The Memories
Ok..Ok..I have to confess..
Not more than a year ot so ago I had a ’79 TA in with tricked up. bored out mill and goodies to .409.
I’m not sure if the Leopard makes more noise than the .409 with the Hooker Headers, but I would like to fnd out.. so please. Ms.Merklle, .ship a Leopard out to me and I will give you a report.
Thank you very much.
I was living in Albania in '96 when their (very new and fragile) market economy collapsed when several large Ponzi schemes failed. Yes, tanks rolled, yes, people died. Although there was extreme pain, it was all apart of their evolution to a better economic model. Apples and oranges? Yes. But my point is that there are times when this type of upheaval is the only way to establish a better way. When I left Albania it was every young persons dream to go to Greece to work, much like Mexicans coming to the U.S.
eyyy Shqipee
it's a bitch to be Christian in Albania..
go figure.. at least there is a huge US base in Kosovo (where Hitlery was alledgedly was shot at from,, NOT.;) and now the terrorist Muslim threat is vanquished by the presence of thousnds of US troops whose Clinton airplanes killed bunches of Christians in favor of the Mohamadans.
And.. for a lousy stinking Fed dollar I will buy you a cup of coffee.
so long as it's not the Chosen ones, I don't think Washington or its military care who's getting bombed tbh.
Easily I start to not be surprised anymore. Anyone who lived actively for years in one of the former eastern block countries I meet or read his posts strikingly we share the same opinion that we recognize to a overwhelming extent the same socio/economical & political patterns developing these days in North America & Western Europe. And guess what, when patterns are the same the real developments follow.
gee, wouldn't it be a hoot if the UPS guy rang the bell and said. "Excuse me sir but I have a 21 ton delivery fom a Ms. Merkle in Germany. .. Where would you like me to put it?".
My only response would be: "Gimme the keys".
You do not want to see me do donuts in an armed full-tracked vehicle.
heh heh.... on your lawn... :-D
Actually, I would like to see that, just on somebody else's lawn. I could think up a few who deserve such an honor, but I'm sure you have your own list and I bet it's just fine.
Oh yes ,when the SHTF, just wait for the fireworks..
But , WTF is it with the Krauts and Cats??? Panzer, Tiger, Leopard geez,,
I taut I saw a puddy tat a qweeping up on me..
They need to name the next tank gen. Sylvester.
it’s OK.. just put me back on the perfect Alpine road from suburban Munich to Schloss Neuschwanstein in a Mercerdes 5 series at 200 KPH and then just let the Lord take me…
It does not get any better than that.
WTF What kind of jealous ASSHOLE does not like Tweetie Pie or 200KPH..
Eat It Big Time MF.
Theraputive.. felt good to get it out.
There will come the day when a Tiger will be in your tank.
I've mentioned it before, but you bring to mind a long discussion with a 96-year-old Austrian lady around 2008 who was sharp as a tack and said "All the signs are there." She grew up under the Bankster-Financed Nazis and told fascinating stories. Nothing like first hand accounts to lend immediacy to the psychopathy that we see unfolding.
Hey Lore - welcome to *The Club of Informed Gentlemen* and sharing :)!
little pieces of gold in the hems......
but what does Munger know, anyway?
Armed forces pensions as well as .gov and bankers are in euro.
Why accept drachma return. (Self preservation over potential future better times)
Americanism proved that "instant gratification" is the hypnotic of consumerism through cc debt at 18-25% interest
This is an unsolvable problem that not even Archimedes or all the Princeton PHD's can solve.
World-wide debt jubilee is the only option. Don't expect it.
Every single country has the right to depreciate or weaken its currency in order to stay competitive EXCEPT GREECE! So why not Greece?
That's the only question we need to focus on.
We can use 2 analogies.
1. If any item, whether old tech or old fashion etc does not sell....then think, what does the retailer or manufacturer do? They reduce the price so the item starts selling. They do one for one offer or WHATEVER IT TAKES to sell the stuff, even below cost.
2. Brazil, South Africa, Russia have had their curencies depreciate by almost 100% in the last few years for whatever reason. Canada is down 40% as is Australia from their peaks. India is down more than 50%. Indonesia is down 50%. Malaysia is down 40%. Singapore is now down 15% and so on.
This shows that when the going is bad, currency indicates that the 'temperature' is rising so lets take some action (reduce the price) or the markets will show that there is a problem (whether commodity prices being low like in Australia, Indonesia or Canada) or sanctions or manipulation (Russia) or slowing trade (Singapore and Malaysia) or all round despair (Brazil and South Africa).
However, the powers that be, don't want to allow Greece to depreciate or weaken their currency because they are tied to this farcical experiment called the European Monetary Union.
It is beyond belief that Greece is not allowed to remain competitive in this world while dozens of countries worldwide can use the currency as a monetary tool.
If the Greeks or Cypriots or Portuguese.... can not depreciate their currency or are not allowed to default, they simply have no future and they will bring everyone down.
Whether each nation goes its own way or the strongest leaves or the weakest one leaves, there has to be an end to this EMU, failing which, we shall keep battling falling banks, closing companies every single year and have non saleable 'items' as described above which shall cause more unemployment because every nation worldwide can reduce their prices except Greece!
God bless the Greeks and the Europeans!
Sooner they admit that they could not beat the political, economical and military might of the USSA by creating EU as a zone to compete with USSA, the better it will be for all humans (actually for the animals too beacause I believe that they cannot even feed animals in the Athens zoo any more due to the Eurozone crisis!) living in Europe to end this chapter and move on, else they will permanently be stuck in 'replay' mode!
If I can think of this, why cannot the multi million dollar pay check mandarins of ECB think of this? Perhaps they need someone like me to plan and execute such a simple solution.
I am available, just call me!
May be you are right or maybe not. But one thing is sure there are so many high paid european civil servants jobs including a lot of (ex-) politicians that they won't even give a thought to your sugesstion. You don't bite the hand that feeds you :)
Fair enough.....but if these chaps do not consider what I propose, they will lose their jobs and mostly their necks too by the very same European citizens whom they claim to represent!
This article is about tanks on the streets after all! :)
Is it better ot take a bitter pill today or wait another 5 years and make a bad situation worse and then probably amputate both legs and arms because no medicine will work by then?
The flood of foreigners coming into Merika is very mixed but I, for one, would welcome any Greek to come to America and get a fresh start!
Good idea. We can wrap em in their little red flags and beat the fuck out of em like piñatas as a warning to the commie-lite fucks we have here
hmm, sounds a tad barbaric, but then again the message is clear. pinatas anyone?
That's awfully kind of you but I think the Greeks can serve a larger purpose by remaining in Greece and finding a way to outsmart the bankers and corrupt political class. Reassert sovereignty. Be a model for the world (like forgotten Iceland) -after all Greece is the cradle of "democracy." Instead, show us in the US who look to you for inspiration how to break the chains and shackles of our own slavery. Show us how it might be done! Don't come here - we have too many escapees as it is jumping on the Titantic!
"That's awfully kind of you but I think the Greeks can serve a larger purpose by remaining in Greece and finding a way to outsmart the bankers and corrupt political class."
Dear Greeks:
Pick up a trade craft or two. Farming, where you tend the soil as much as the crops, or learn how to be a cobbler or a butcher or a weaver or a... There is a good chance that you will have much of coal, oil and natural gas cut off in the future, so take into account the potential for very expensive or non-existant energy supplies when learning these trades.
There is still a lot of fish in the ocean, and the Greeks do a pretty good job of getting them,
Hello Dubaibanker. Your posts here are at least quite entertaining.
Thanks Heterodox! :)
I am glad you enjoy it. We need to find a bit of humour in this world where everything is not so awesome and everything is and will collapse around the world with some very rare exceptions.
The implosion of the banking and financial system will bring down everything unless countries are well-prepared or insulated. Trade, real estate, shopping etc all will collapse if this continues. This is most unfortunate but will happen.
Around 2009, for example, most real estate was bought by private equity players globally, now in 2015 or in the future, they wish to sell and capitalise it, but there are no buyers anywhere except the Chinese, so who will they sell it to? IPO's are at multi decade lows in US and only rising in China. They cannot exit and this will cause another chokepoint in the world of real estate and financiers and investors etc.
Only small countries like Antigua or Fiji (many need to look up a map where these are located) will be ok because they are just too small and quite self sufficient. Big exceptions will be China and Russia (who are not only self sufficient but have ample cash to burn in the event of a catastrophe).
This whole globalization thing is going to bring a tsunami of debt and no business! Smarter are those who are shutting down global operations and running back to their home countries.
Rest of the world as we know it, will not be the same when our global population touches 8 billion around 2024 while jobs, global trade and money supply will be even lower than in 2015!
Dubaibanker, I enjoy your posts, too, including this one. your premise is nevertheless wrong:
"Every single country has the right to depreciate or weaken its currency in order to stay competitive EXCEPT GREECE! So why not Greece?"
Schäuble even proposed that Greece ought to take a vacation from the EUR, remember?
how many votes in Athen's parliament chamber did his proposal get? none? oh, it was not even... discussed? oh
then perhaps it's Greece that does not want such a thing? you might want to make a difference between "having a right" and "exercising a right"
Point well taken.
However, you probably know better than me that the Parliaments of this world do not run the show and neither do the citizens.
It's either the banksters or the mega corporations or the gun or alcohol lobbys or AIPAC or CIA/NSA/MI6/Mossad or the MIC or the Bilderberg group types or how can I forget the Fed! They all use media to reshape public opinions on top of everything!
All of these are unelected bodies.
Elected bodies are merely stooges or puppets in almost every major nation except the 3 being China and Russia. for India, I have my doubts about India since India went bankrupt about 2 decades ago and has been managed solely through God's miracles or band aid solutions!
Yesterday's link to this report is an eye opener. http://themillenniumreport.com/2014/11/vladimir-putins-russia-perfect-fo...
If you think, Parliament of Greece can resolve these multi national problems, then I guess you are mistaken in your viewpoint.
The referendum did show what the public wanted but the Parliament and the PM went exactly in the opposite direction. So the will of the people does not matter anyways which is most unfortunate in a supposed to be democratic and free state.
Do you remember who tried to kill JFK? Was it the 'Parliament'? Or who did 9/11? or what was Snowden all about? Did the Eurozone take a voting at the time of creating EMU?
The decision of EMU was made and life was great so all Parliaments passed it for the greater glory and greater good and kept joining in...Now we see what the results are and the same Parliaments are unable to revoke past approvals because not only people have changed but the money has finished and we have reached a dead end. And, no one wishes to bell the cat. Hungary is trying as is Austria but it is a long road and time is too short.....No Parliamentarian wishes to make this decision.
I do not know if you remember what happened in Cyprus in March 2013 when the Parliament had to vote on taking a one off tax from the entire public. All of them balked (because their citizens whould have kroasted all of them alive and they would lose their Member of Parliament status forever) and eventually the bank had to be shut down (without Parliament approval) and only one set of people (Russians) lost money because they had the maximum amount of money in the Laiki bank and it was shut down so the impact on the Cypriots could be minimised.
Parliaments are not what they used to be. They are all controlled by the banksters or the credtors! (Have you ever wondered that so many top hedge fund billionaires own Greek debt and that they could be pulling the strings?)
If Greece and other weak countries are not allowed to 'depreciate' or weaken their products and services like the many others I mentioned, they will be dragged through this for another decade or two and the entire nation will be wasted at the altar of EMU politics!
Greece needs to sell whatever it produces at half the cost or less, than that of Germany else they will never be able to create revenue streams to repay their debt and will forever be the homeless, penniless people of Eurozone or will forever keep getting bailed out! And then, 10 years from now, we will still be wondering as to why Greece cannot stand on its two own legs?
Because....no one allows them to sell their products and services at a lower cost (else they will have a chance to stand up).....the revenue stream (by depreciation of Greece) is the only viable solution, IMHO, else I need to ask why is that Greece is getting a bail out for the third time in as many years?
Greece wishes to exercise their right but they are not being allowed to hence I said they have a right but they cannot exercise!
Dubaibanker, yes, there are strong influences
nevertheless, there are also national parliaments where the MPs are elected on the basis of multi-party electoral systems, and the Hellenic Republic is such a case
imo it's really interesting how many super-informed professionals work in the global economy and support a worldview where democracy is completely dead
the same people that proposed that referendum proposed afterwards the ratification of a treaty they did not like... but where a different majority in parliament voted yes, remember?
multi-party politics is messier, and many people used to one-party or two-party politics are completely flabbergasted by it
have a look at Israel and their politics, btw. why does Israel use multi-party? how do decisions get generated, there?
fact is that there is a majority in Greece that wants to keep the EUR... and the elected parliament did vote in this direction... even though the appointed government did not like that
imo, that's a clear sign of a working democracy. and a poke in the eye to your theory that "Greece wishes to exercise their right but they are not being allowed to..."
I repeat: a majority of Greeks want to keep the EUR. a majority of Greek MPs voted for the third bailout. not the same majority that wants Tsipras to lead them
Yes Ghordius but "representative democracy" collides with "direct democracy" when referendum meets parliamentarianism just as when voters want a death penalty and elites do not.
The French Revolution had a bankrupt monarchy having wasted a fortune on supporting American Colonists against the British Empire taxing everyone except the aristocratic elites that had the assets.
That tended to run into the sand around 1789
Sandmann, the only country that succeeded in putting up a direct democracy is Switzerland
imho, because they have an excellent parliamentary system, and semi-confederative to boot, as a base for that
example: when the Swiss vote on a referendum, they usually vote on questions that are relevant and intelligeble
now have a look at the question that Tsipras posed in Greece, and tell me if it was a good, relevant and intelligeble question
he asked Greece to vote on a foreign proposal that was not even valid anymore, for criminy! and that in the shortest terms, instead of framing a better question well in advance and having a well differentiated public discussion on it
referenda are blunt instruments, to be handled properly, with care and reverence. all else is just misuse of referenda
I agree with you but I believe that in the short term it is very important to have money and since money has finished in Greece and in most nations, they do not have any short term solutions. In the long run you are absolutely right.
Until Greece and others had money and were not governed by their creditors, life was ok and Greece was selling its goods and services to all.
Today, as the money has finished, there are no solutions. Creditors determine how and what to do next and the Parliamentarians just pass the laws that the creditors thrust down their throats.
Public suffers and eventually something somewhere starts a revolution or a war or riots....or another bailout.
We cannot have endless bailouts. We have reached that dead end. We do not expect Greece to receive another 100 billion in a year or two hence they must be allowed to sell their goods but no one will buy from them if their price is even the same because of the risks involved.
Democracy is dead indeed, which is why in the last 20 years, we have seen all democratic nations go bankrupt but not the communist or socialist ones, not even countries like Iran or Cuba! So that says something....does it not?
The next question is: Where did all that money go when it is a zero sum game? Someone has it...and that someone has taken it by lying and cheating and manipulating laws of the land in 'democratic countries'!
Remember Enron...Corzine...Madoff...Lehman...AIG...GM....Fannie and Freddie Mae..Arthur Andersen...Allen Sanford...all nationalsied banks in Eurozone...from Dutch to the British....Rajat Gupta...Bear Stearns....hedge fund insider trading....SEC porn....Solyandra...JP Morgan and GS CEO's becoming billionaires....(not one country in this planet except for 3 dozen Western 'democratic' countries have produced billionaire bankers who are above hundreds of millions and some are billionaires)....I could go on....
well, I could quip at this that it's the Austrian School that at the end is completely right, while Keynesians are at the end completely... dead, according their own quips
democracy and sovereignty are not absolute power, and are not financial power. they are principles, not book-keeping entries, nor "dead"
further, Greece missed a chance to bankrupt it's banking system and the Hellenic Republic, hence it's not bankrupt, just in very dire financial problems
balanced budgets. they work for republics based on democratic principles as well as for authoritarian regimes that want us to believe that "democracy is dead", or irrelevant
then at the end, authoritarian regimes still fear democracy above anything else, and still need to stage smear campaigns against democracy as a principle
"It is beyond belief that Greece is not allowed to remain competitive in this world while dozens of countries worldwide can use the currency as a monetary tool."
In medival times they bleed the patient to save him with bloodletting and leeches
the Troika set up a steeple chase if greece left the Euro they would set up obstacles that would be illegal or extralegal but the court time for resolution was impossible
out of the EU common market wasnt in the cards originally or else countries would not have joined
UK and Denmark were smart
stored in a special security room and in a safe Greece's exit plan from the Eurozone.
Have you noticed that the contents were "secret" much like the Obama TPP
Greece is the valve to a certain pipeline that will not be allowed.
The silver drachma plan would have set a very dangerous path of stability for the globalists who want instability:
http://greece.greekreporter.com/2015/06/27/greek-investigators-report-finds-evidence-of-plot-against-former-pms-life-silver-drachma-plan/
Very interesting. The comments section is noteworthy too. Suppression and manipulation of national economies, breaking of nations and subjugation of peoples seems to be the plan.
"Greece should pivot to Russia and loosen ties with the USA and Israel given the serious evidence that the USA and Israel planned to assassinate Greek PM Kostas Karamanlis in 2008 in order to prevent Greek participation in the Russian led South Stream and Bourgas-Alexandroupolis pipeline projects."
If Greece pivots towards Russia right now, you'll see the CIA, at the very least, attempt a color revolution there. Whether it would be successful or not, I don't know, but the CIA knows as well as anybody, once people start getting killed, the game has changed drastically.
Methinks their scam is over.. too many folks are aware nowadays.
They are trying it in Macedonia.. but maybe the plebes are too smart there, too.
At some point in time all the NGO money in the world won't do you any good.
Looks like another replay of Ukraine, get ready for a fomented color revolution and more drawn out suffering in the next few years for the Greek people for speaking their mind.
Except that all unemployed youth of Greece, Portugal and Spain will declare residency in the UK, Germany, Norway and France and be on the dole as unemployed receiving welfare. These countries will be hit hard as well thanks to open borders and free emigration.
The wave of such movement has already started. Good luck Angela.
On the funny front... Merckel visited Athens and at the customs control it went like this:
Customs: Country of citizenship?
Merckel: German
Customs: Occupation?
Merckel: Not yet..
Aha....
Maybe the only thing they think they need is a catalyzing crises similar to Pearl Harbour or 911…
Hmm... watch out, EU…….. you might want to read the PNAC.pdf and have a good below-grade shelter.. .
Yes, I remember it well as a kid (summer visits). Many new road and hotels built. But you couldn't talk (passionately for hours....) in the tavernas and cafenia. Now was that because of the colonels, or because of the age (late 60s into early 70s). Seems to opportunities were generally better back then than now.
And in Greece, the villagers are still fine. Not much change for them. Vegetables from the garden, sheep....It is the big cities that are suffering. I mean, who is generally going to open a factory in Greece? My uncle was involved with an aluminium plant in Greece (not sure what they made) but with the cost of energy, that makes no sense!
I think the first world was generally a wonderful economical place back in the day!
Thanks for the memories - it was a wonderful place in the mid 70's.
oh gosh.. the wine festival at Daphni.. 30 Drachs to get in ($1.00)
I still have the litle jugs and sipping glasses that cost 10 and 20 Dracks in a display cabinet here in the fortress.
And oh BTW... culture shock as a relative youth was getting into an un-air conditioned bus in the middle of Athens in August with all the locals hanging on the loops and sporting their armpit hairs and aroma.
But I'm pretty sure they shave every nook and cranny nowadays,
Even the blond Greeks with the dark roots.
Yes I used to do the bus ride Rion to Patras "to go into town". Rion is now just a suburb....but I do recall the smell on those un ariconditoned busses!
US American noses rule. :-)
EU stimulus program: A brand new Wehrmacht Leopard 2E on every street corner.
Fahrvergnügen!
Well, let's us all go get naked..
Actually, I am pretty good looking that way.
Hide your daughters. :-D
Fuckingroovin'......fify
It will be disguised as a souvaliki and sauerkraut stand.
Wow.. what a concept..
Fermented Cabbage on lamb meat,,.
Who'd a thunk it?
Let's start a franchise!
Can't call it Gyros.. How about Germos?
Free worry beads to the first 500 customers.
"A brand new Wehrmacht Leopard 2E on every street corner."
I have an available garage bay.. I would be happy to house one.. and..
I have six bag concrete down to 8 inches so I can place the 21 tons of machine properly.
I think my neighbors might be might be a bit surprised to see a German Leopard rumbling out of the garage including the guy across the street with the Hummer H-3.
Brad Sherman ver. 2.0
Exactly that, the show is going live around the world soon, just wondering if we'll get to play the new Fallout game before it turns to that scenario for real.
07/18: Ukraine: 100 More US Military Humvees Arrive in Odessa – US Ambassador
Oh fer fucks sake, for starters the same EU yokels that can't plan a one car parade can predict this shit and now we now know that Hank Paulson was one of the secret circle jerk planners
Of course the f*kcing banksters don't want the Greeks to leave their precious Euro currency
Because they need it in order to LOOT them.
and if Greece was at the moment on a gold standard, you'd be writing:
"Of course the f*kcing banksters don't want the Greeks to leave that precious metal currency, that global non-national currency called gold"
How come when Iceland told the bankerz to get stuffed -and arrested, tied and convicted a few- in 2010 there was none of this psychodrama?
how did the Icelandic parliament vote on such things? compared to the Greek parliament?
I can almost hear the popcorn popping in the Kremlin.
WHO. GIVES. A. FUCK.
I can't imagine a scenario in which that would be successful in the US. It might work in certain cities like Washington for a short time, but State National Guard units would stop taking orders from the Federal Government within days ... if not hours, if a single tank rolled down an American street and fired its weapon.
And Federal US Military forces will engage the State National Guards and prosececute any officers, in those State National Guards, who refused to obey directed orders in Court Martial, under the MCC, for insubordination...if not treason.
Personally I do not believe that the Officers will want to lose their commission and spend some hard time at Fort Leavenworth. They are SELF INTERESTED, understand OVERWHELMING FORCE, will think it through, and OBEY ORDERS from the top brass.
I do not trust any US Military organization and do not wish to live under the auspices of a Military junta.
And as the US Military sees it fit to violate their oaths to defend the Constitution of the United States with the continuing violation of Fourth Amendment Rights, by their National Security Agency, their Military INTEL, then it is the only rartional stance to take as it is supported by observable and empirical evidence.
You are living in a FANTASYLAND and as I usually write...
FUCK YOU NSA.
My take on the military is that it is just as divided as the populace, meaning that if a Junta is attempted, it won't be a simple the people vs the military. How that would play out depends on who, what why where when and how of the Junta, but if it was a naked power grab, I do know that a lot of people in the military signed up for one thing (A global force for good!) and got another. I'm betting that you're talking F15s shooting at each other in the case of a naked power grab.
The other issue is that, even with the high tech weapons, they do not have the logistics to control the country if a large enough segment of the population is willing to resist and resist hard. Start destroying the cities ala Japan and Germany, and they destroy their own MIC. Don't destroy the cities and they still have to worry about importing raw materials, which becomes problematic because the world won't want to keep the dollar as the world reserve currency if it is in the midst of a civil war. Their supply chains depend on too many Americans to run a high tech military in the event of an actual rebellion.
I'd rather have a couple of years with tanks than an eternity of hell and EU bullshit.
It's the Hungarian Revolution all over again.
Put's the economic jizz cream on the skin or youse gets the hose (tanks) again.
The US/EU may provoke martial law in the streets.
Turning Greece into another Ukraine.
Good luck.
They really don't have as many Nazi's as Western Ukraine.
NATO = NAZI = GLADIO
F'ng Conspiracy Theorist..
Hmm.. Maybe the CIA would like to coin that term.
But then they would have to kill someone .. or maybe several thousand.
Well, at least as long as Greece can import oil.
.. and soon they will have a Russian pipe up where it counts.
..the question is whether the Nazi Yanks can de-stabilize Macedonia enough to keep the pipe from going north.
Greece has had military takeovers in the past in far less strained circumstances
Yup.. time for another.. and at least they have a few German Subs they can stop paying for.
will they stop building Leopard tanks under licence then ?
indeed Yanis Varoufakis contends that Athens was threatened with capital controls as early as February if it did not acquiesce to creditor demands.
Remember that Chinese guy standing in front of the tanks in Tiananme Square. That whole fucking charade was staged. Call it a fucking hunch. The camera man was a young man named Y-Anus.
Shove it up your ass, Yanis. You fucking gutless pussy.
C'mon, Y-anus serial jucnker, Reveal thyself. Gottah a reply you fucking gutless turd? Greece is more fucked now that it was just a few weeks ago. What did the might Y-Anus accomplish? FUCK ALL. Y-Anus what a chess piece on a board that Steive Wonder could see you fucking retard. Listen to this retarded fuckstick at your own peril.
Another red arrow with no reply. What a fucking shocker.
Hey juncker, remember that one chick you fucked in your life. Yes, your sisiter. She faked her orgasm.
Just curious junckers. How fucking retarded are your kids? If your sisters are half as stupid as you...well them little devils of yours gottah be some of the biggest dumbasses ever to walk the earth.
5 chances to reply. Nada. When the pussy halll of fame opens up in the not too distant future, I will gladly nomitate thee for induction. Miight be a problem...as none of you pusssies replied. Maybe I can create a special pussy lifetime achievement award that encompasses all of pussydom.
Anyhow, gonna go have sex with my wife now and hope for twins to counter the retards that you fucking dickless wonders are going to bestow upon us.
Adios, pussies.
Have a drink... smoke some weed....somethin,' dawg....
junkers gonna junk...
no need to get sand in your birth canal over it.
Damn Son, chill dem niggaz ou
"voting does not matter" is a mantra of many, here. it follows that voting on ZH's comments has to be... completely irrelevant
"Yanis Varoufakis contends that Athens was threatened with capital controls as early as February if it did not acquiesce to creditor demands"
capital controls is what the Greek Government does, btw. it can't be a threat to Athens, as such
yes, the danger was that the ECB would say enough to ELA support. yes, the ECB did put a lid on ELA support, at 90 billion
but capital controls is a Greek State reaction to that. mostly in order to save the Greek banking system. which would otherwise gone bankrupt
When does Nuland show up with McStain and the cookies?
Icky Vicky will vring baklava
Icky Vicky will bring baklava
The Looting of Greece
Paul Craig Roberts
http://www.darkmoon.me/2015/the-looting-of-greece/
Brussels delenda est.
Paul Craig "Washington" Robber should know, he helped Ronnie Raygun loot america. This wimp acts like he doesn't know Rothschild is printing the money and our whores are taking orders from London and Rome. Somebody should slap the spittle off his mouth.
When I was in the greek tank regiment we had to use the one tank that worked to jump start the other 11. True story.
Exactly! In this day and age, tanks, just like carriers, are sitting ducks waiting to be cooked!
Trouble is, these days most drinks are in plastic bottles - Useless for Molotovs!
Thank God for beer in bottles!!
Getting ready to say, "Why do I suddenly have a thirst for beer?".
try with style and drink some wine;) (hopefully not in plasticbottle...)
I still believe that the above mentioned scenario will inevitably occur. The deal on the table right now is not deliverable, when the Greek people wake up and realize exactly what has been hoisted upon them. All hell will break loose.
The original sentence: [edit: I forgot that ZeroHedge doesn't handle Greek unicode]. A better translation might be, "If this plan were to be implemented [but it's not], then tank treads would be heard in the streets of Athens." It's not so much a plan as a warning: here's what would happen in an alternate universe if Greece were to leave the Euro, but that's not going to happen in this universe, and it's your job to make sure that it doesn't happen.
IOUs for RIPs: Greece's cash crisis hurts funeral industry
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150719/eu-greece-funerals-4a86498600.html
So WHAT!
First rule of humans - Government is an evil necessity that must be kept in check. Unless government is kept limited and tamed people will suffer…
Example:
The Greeks trusted their government. Now they must pay for trusting government.
Conclusion:
Humans are stupid (me included). In 6000 years of recorded history we have failed to learn a simple lesson - that evil government will kill, imprisoned, tortured and enslaved the majority of humanity. Government is the biggest problem for humanity in recorded history. It can easily be bought and misdirect because people fail to care about what government does to them. Sheeple have had warnings from the creators of the US constitution and ignored them. But when the sheeple ignore the warnings and allow government to go unchecked and misdirected - they will pay.
Governments are not an evil necessity.
But Government are evil, by necessity.
Humans can live without Governments. The lives of Frontier settlers were demonstrative of that FACT. It was a rare occurence to run across any Government official 200 years ago in the USA.
But now it is a rare day when they are not negatively affecting your life, directing it since it serves to milk you better TAX SLAVE.
So get back to work, slave. There are no day's off. They have been cancelled as your Government needs the tax revenue.
And you had best be buying something so they can tax you. Otherwise they will erode the purchasing power of any meager savings which you may have been SANDBAGGING, and steal it in that fashion.
Why do you PARROT that GOD DAMNED LIE FROM HELL, "Governments are a necessary evil, SQUAWK!!!" ?!?
Are you a fucking BIRDBRAIN??? Too damned bRAINWASHED???
Governments are NOT NECESSARY and they are merely PARASITES upon the production of the WORTHY!!!
As one wag put it, "The only thing we learn from history is that people learn nothing from history."
The only thing that can save Greece now is a Greek Army Officer who can command a brigade of troops, armor and guns to sieze Athens and then to persudade the rest of the Greek Army to save Greece.
Otherwise, the Greeks have all just been sold into slavery by their very own 'savior'.
Panos Kammenos Greece's defence minister, this is the man who will make it happen.
You mean the same Greek Army Officer who's salary and retirement are virtually guaranteed as long as Greece remains in the EU? In the immortal words of the Baby Boomer generation "I got mine, get yours."
More like the Greek Army Officer whose salary and retirement have been deeply and repeatedly cut as a result of austerity measures and who was out protesting said cuts back during the last round in 2012. The only thing that was guaranteed was the budget for materiel rather than personnel -- one must keep buying those submarines from the Germans, after all.
Apparently the cuts aren't that bad if they aren't makig a change. They do have the guns after all...
Lieutenant Icarius Zeno has 12 hours to save his country from destruction as he fights against corrupt politicians, unelected governments, and the alien race that controls them all known only as The Tribe. "Kid" Icarius must convince his elite commando unit to join him, or die trying to stop him. Lt. Zeno lays it all on the line as he tries to not get.......GREECED.
In theaters Fall 2015.
Unrest? The soup kitchens run the length of the country, the only growth.
The ludicrously large defense budget was to top up the tear gas stocks etc in anticipation of worst case scenario.
The generals are really just mafia Dons. Zero accountability and there to protect the Elite's interests when the non-working workers turn up with the pitchforks and torches.
Until their pay stops.
Then the 'fun' will really start
More Than 2,800 People Are Dead in Yemen, So Why Is the Media Silent?
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/31809-more-than-2-800-people-are-dead...
Muslim fatigue.
Nobody gives a shit.
So what Genius? Over 3000 people are dying in Africa every day, from malaria and TBC. ...
Because yemen is not the ally of the Saudi Donmeh Wahabbi jews. That is why
Maybe Yemen was the cost of Saudi compliance in dragging down the oil price?
No one can predict what would happen. These are nonlinear systems filled with an immense amount of complex agents and variables that fall prey to rules of chaos and complexity.
Texas is still waiting for its gold from the Chinese Fed in NYC.
Don't worry Greece, you're gold is safe.
LOL.
They'll probably be waiting until hell frezees over or El Choomo sends another JDAM to blow up another fertilizer factory.
Best advice for Texas is to build their depository and start stocking it independent of whether they see any gold bullion from the NY FED.
Might come in handy when the FED finally impoldes and they need real assests to continue as a Free country.
Free Country......
Another oxymoron to add to the list.
Countries are herd management/divide and conquer constructs, nothing more.
The Greek deal has never been to save Greece but rather to save the banksters from a big period of uncertainty that would have affected all the stock markets. Tsipras did not save Greece, but allowed the continuation of the illusion that things can be arranged by the creators of infinite debt. It will fail and it will not be Greece to actually start it, the financial markets are closing in to their final defeat and they will not be able to avoid it. it is game over.
How do you say GLADIO in Greek?
Kokkini Provia (Red Hide) so I am told.
If Greece exits the euro, just think of all those tourists flocking to visit their country!
Debt must be rolled over.
The people must bend over.
And the economy 'tanked'
NATO lurks
http://www.sigmalive.com/en/news/greece/129935/kammenos-meets-us-under-s...
(bringing NATO "stability" to the world)
Social unrest and threat of tanks is far more likely if they stay with the euro and borrow more money to pay the banksters
The funniest part is that they really can't afford the tanks. "Just put it on the bill."
I didn't know the ECB had tanks