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Ashley Madison Hacked: America's 37 Million 'Cheaters' About To Be Exposed
Two months ago, AdultFriendFinder was hacked, exposing fuck buddy friend-finding federal employees among its 3.5 million user 'exposure'. Today, as KrebsOnSecurity reports, large caches of data stolen from online cheating site AshleyMadison.com have been posted online by an individual or group that claims to have completely compromised the company’s user databases, financial records and other proprietary information (including profiles with all the customers’ secret sexual fantasies). The hacker group "The Impact Team" manifesto concludes, "too bad for those [37 million] men, they’re cheating dirtbags and deserve no such discretion."
As KrebsOnSecurity reports, the still-unfolding leak could be quite damaging to some 37 million users of the hookup service, whose slogan is “Life is short. Have an affair.”
The data released by the hacker or hackers — which go by the name The Impact Team — includes sensitive internal data stolen from Avid Life Media (ALM), the Toronto-based firm that owns AshleyMadison as well as related hookup sites Cougar Life and Established Men.
Reached by KrebsOnSecurity late Sunday evening, ALM Chief Executive Noel Biderman confirmed the hack, and said the company was “working diligently and feverishly” to take down ALM’s intellectual property. Indeed, in the short span of 30 minutes between that brief interview and the publication of this story, several of the Impact Team’s Web links were no longer responding.
“We’re not denying this happened,” Biderman said. “Like us or not, this is still a criminal act.”
In a long manifesto posted alongside the stolen ALM data, The Impact Team said it decided to publish the information in response to alleged lies ALM told its customers about a service that allows members to completely erase their profile information for a $19 fee.
According to the hackers, although the “full delete” feature that Ashley Madison advertises promises “removal of site usage history and personally identifiable information from the site,” users’ purchase details — including real name and address — aren’t actually scrubbed.
“Full Delete netted ALM $1.7mm in revenue in 2014. It’s also a complete lie,” the hacking group wrote. “Users almost always pay with credit card; their purchase details are not removed as promised, and include real name and address, which is of course the most important information the users want removed.”
Their demands continue:
“Avid Life Media has been instructed to take Ashley Madison and Established Men offline permanently in all forms, or we will release all customer records, including profiles with all the customers’ secret sexual fantasies and matching credit card transactions, real names and addresses, and employee documents and emails. The other websites may stay online.”
“Too bad for those men, they’re cheating dirtbags and deserve no such discretion,” the hackers continued. “Too bad for ALM, you promised secrecy but didn’t deliver. We’ve got the complete set of profiles in our DB dumps, and we’ll release them soon if Ashley Madison stays online. And with over 37 million members, mostly from the US and Canada, a significant percentage of the population is about to have a very bad day, including many rich and powerful people.”
As the Wall Street Journal noted in a May, the company had voiced plans for an initial public offering in London later this year with the hope of raising as much as $200 million.
“Given the breach at AdultFriendFinder, investors will have to think of hack attacks as a risk factor,” the WSJ wrote. “And given its business’s reliance on confidentiality, prospective AshleyMadison investors should hope it has sufficiently, er, girded its loins.”
So much for that IPO because that word, it definitely did not mean what the company's equity sponsors thought it means...
Finally, it is time to rotate out of the massively profitable 3x levered Belgian caterer ETF and dump it all in the 3x levered US divorce lawyer ETF which Larry Fink's Blackrock is furiously working on right now.
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Lloyd with his favorite Goat, Jamie with his favorite mare, haha.
Animal Omaha
Lloyd is on there looking for caitlyn
Pass the popcorn, This is gonna be GOOD!
"Honey, why do you never striptease for me like these vids on your Ashley Madison profile?"
Oh crap. Now I'll have to go back to cheating in the old fashioned way.
They probably would sell that info to insurance companies, STD risk etc.
hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.
it is nice to know some women can't escape their gender roles.
The feminist uprising will never gain traction as they all pay their bills a different time of the month.
I think The Impact Team (TIT, seriously!) are a bit stupid.
TIT (what an acronym!), threatens AM to close down or else they release all the personal data. So, if AM close down, they're out of business. If they don't, AM takes a business hit, and still gets a chance through the long arm of the law jailing the TIT offenders (excuse the pun, but I couldn't resist). This is a no brainer, AM stays online, does all it can to help its clientele and then go after TIT.
So question for the idiots in TIT. You guys (maybe your gals), do not understand that you really have no leverage here? Threatening the release of the clientele dreamscapes is not really going to help you. Have you checked out the database? Any senators, judges, or say organized crime leaders? Do you understand what you are threatening?
Now I could understand if you had something on the AM owners that could work. But the clientele? Ok so there are 37 million, you don't think they can't find another 37 million that now thanks to you, you have helped them to determine the weak points in their system? After all, if they have 37 million clients, it means they have a viable business model, which I can't say about you, TIT. Really change your name, TIT aint going to work, it makes you sound like jealous hypocrites!
TIT before you do anything rash, remember there are 37 million people on that database, and not all of them are just inoculous school teachers. You might seriously be doing yourselves a great bit of harm, other than the trouble you are getting into with the law. I am willing to bet there is at least ONE person on that database you don't want to upset. Remember it only takes ONE in the 37 million and you're in big big serious trouble, how lucky do you think you are?
This is really a stupid gambit, TIT. Really stupid, the odds are against you, about 37 million to 1.
Okay, so you are either a steely-eyed, steady-thinking pragmatist....or an Ashley Madison customer. I know where my bet is.
Just a cold pragmatist, with a keen eye for the ludicrous! And boy, is this ludicrous.
Afterthought: If TIT are a group of women hackers, which wouldn't be surprising, then maybe they should be referred to as The Women's Impact Team, then they are TWIT, which whould be even more appropriate!
Seriously TWITs you are seriously out of your league here!
Yes I confess...I am a male with a cheeky sense of humour.
The Cold-Pragmatist
Never ask for forgiveness for what is known,
For thought is free, an' voice must be shown.
Those who can not muster truth,
Have only one fault that betray;
A poor sensor of humour,
For we cold pragmatists roguishly display.
Woman hacker is an oxymoron...
But you can buy a couple of Bitcoin, HIRE a guy on the darknet and tel him to make a social engineering event like that...
Yep. The customer. Bring on the touchy-feely anti-woman-haters brigade. This guy needs to be waterboarded immediately.
'Noel Biderman'...?
'Ashley Madison'...?
I wonder why Mr. Biderman could not have called his site, Ashley Wine-stein? Or, Ashley Bergowitz? How about, Ashly Greenbaum...? Ashley Frankenberg...?
Ashley Firestein?
Herr Biderman, please hurry up! It's time for your shower!
Always, and I do mean always, read the terms and conditions:
Unless they know how to opt out of the 'Ashley's Angels' feature, the site's Terms and Conditions say that users who have not yet paid the site any money ('Guest' accounts) may get computer generated messages from fictitious profiles that "are NOT conspicuously identified as such". These may cost money to respond to. The site says this feature is "to provide entertainment".
Below the belt anarchy and medieval morality; well done Hackeristan logic.
When Hacker-Talibanism meets the click-o-phuck-dating of the age.
You're on my page and why am I now the rage of every hulk who wants my twitter account? __Some guys and gals will burn in hells, bells and buttkicking of media and Net scorn. Well, just get used to it.
You could always change your sex like Caitlin.
Its like a hail mary quarterback passer who becomes wild end receiver!
You'd think Bill Clinton was running for prez again.
HEY TYLER, how come we never get an automatic video for these type of threads. You need to get your priority's straight. Maybe Ashley gagging on something.
Gentlemen, start your cuckolding!
OH MY GOD!!! My wife is going to kill me.
Hookers .... in league with their pimps, boyfriends and drug dealers .... are much more dangerous to their "Johns" .... than wives !
Big Info. is getting hold of the short hairs; you thought J. Edgar had leverage?,mere child's play. Black mail all around, another tool in the box to lever further power consolidation. The omnipotent ones will bring you to heel, or is it hell. The eye on the pyramid is scanning for your weaknesses.
Oh shit....I need to hide from my neighbor's husband. Time to move to a new state.
How can people be so stupid to put this kind of information on internet and thinking that it is private. Nothing is private on internet. It is an invitation to blackmail!
MF 's- burn in hell cheaters!
now that is a melt down ZH- not your bull****
articles since 2011 about a market crash
Life is short .... make a snuff flick !
Dark but funny!
This is bullshit, i bet they're bluffing. I'll believe it when they release the names.
Do they really think the CEO cares about his customers getting exposed? He's making a shitload of money, and people will continue to use the site. Sure, people may be more apprehensive now but they'll just be more careful.
All I know is if I ran the site I'd issue a statement saying "fuck you, release it. The site aint going down"
os, yes you are probably correct...and would anyone use their real name and contact info would most likely be on a separate account with erasable format is my guess, excepting the stupids.
os, yes you are probably correct...and would anyone use their real name and contact info would most likely be on a separate account with erasable format is my guess, excepting the stupids.
"All I know is if I ran the site I'd issue a statement saying "fuck you, release it. The site aint going down"
And given the level of concern you'd show about your clients privacy, you'd lose each and everyone of them in the twinkling of an eye.
We're not talking about releasing YOUR own personal data here, but those of your clients.
"Honey, It's not what you think"!
Double indiscretion: You're fried .... if your wifey reads ZH .... forget Ashley Madison ! LOL
Divorce lawyer and they lied about scrubbing info. I smell a class action lawsuit on that one. Love is in the air
what is this new phenomena we see of those who think they are the morally righteous condeming others they don't even know personally? We see this moral high ground displayed all over social media and with this. Do the hackers know the damage they will cause is also the proceeds from the moral crime of being a tattletail. Jobs will be lost, marriages broken and lives destroyed or taken and for what...so that some hacker can feel supposed moral superiority fucking grow up and let people live their lives as they see fit and keep to youe own. this reminds me of junior high school only we're all supposed to be thinking adults now with the exception of these mama boys fascination with scandal cause they ain't gettin' any! Some people cheat because that is the way they are wired. Others because they may have a damned good reason to cheat. All I know is that it is none of my business or any of anyone else's except those involved or close enough to the situation to be able to discern if the "news" needs to be aired.
Oops, sounds like another cheater who doeth protest too much.
frankly scarlet, you could also argue that the ones who cheat "because they're wired like that" should never get married to begin with.
And the ones who "may have a damned good reason to cheat" should be responsible about it and get a divorce.
Nothing can ever justify betraying somebody you have passed a contract with, in the full knowledge of what you were doing.
Adultery is only forgivable in societies where marriages are arranged, forced or where there is no divorce.
It was a lot of the baby boomers that began to realize that contracts can be broken. Prior to WW II, there were many unhappily married people everywhere, but by the time people realized they were truly unhappy they were older, 50s or 60s and in many instances figured there was no need to do much because there were only a few years left anyway. That is still the case for many, you just don't hear about it.
Adultery happens all the time -- not that it is acceptable, even in societies with arranged marriages or whatever, Divorce should be just that -- you tried and failed, what makes you think you'd be succesful with someone else? Big mistake -- just live by yourself.
where can I find the names? So I can see if my wife is there....
Yeah, quick put the pressure on the wife.
Tactics.
Probably another hoax to implement NSA type cyber security controls. This gets peoples attention.
Marriage=Contract. Nothing more. nothing less.
Well, with all this talk of various civic entities issuing 'marriage licenses', I think that it the only 'license' issued without an expiration date. There are tons of grief, regret and sorrow that could be avoided by making government-issued marriage licenses good for 5 years, and then renwable by both If not renewed, you can pay for a license with someone else, if you're that needy.
Bath House Barry thinks YT has it too good.
What he will do by EO is take private property from YT and give it to his brown buddies.
And if you are a YT, you will be imprisoned or shot.
You had better step up for yourselves; the Revolution is coming.
Yes it will be Anglo vs. Others.
Accept the reality.
Why is the Border Open? To bring in Soldados de fortuna.
Within 12 months America will be in Flames.
"too bad for those [37 million] men, they’re cheating dirtbags and deserve no such discretion."
Are they having gay sex? Wouldn't there need to be 37 million women too? Can women hack yet, I thought they were reatrds with computers?
This was back in the 80s. I had a classmate that always had that "extra vibe" to make money on the side - if you know what I mean. Anyway, he was just 16 years old and came up with the following idea.
Close to our small town, near Stuttgart (read: ultra conservative people) a new red light club had opened. He guessed that lots of the small town people would go there secretly. One day he started calling people randomly from a payphone and if a man would answer, he started saying that he feels so sorry for calling, but that he had lost something in the Club and if they should send it to his home address. Some would hang up and once in a while he got someone that was shitting his pants and offering to meet somewhere.
I was 16 too and to me this was a grandious business idea...only that collecting was impossible. I wish my classmate had BitCoin back then. Aaaaaaahhhh, the riches we could have amassed.
I've been trying to work up some sympathy for the facilitators of mass infidelity at Ashley Madison and their unfaithful customers, but it's just not there.
As for the self-righteous hackers/blackmailers/extortionists, I hope they get what people like that deserve.
'Facilitators of mass infidelity.' There's resonance to that.
I have created a Country where no Rule of Law Applies except for my own Edicts. Congress means nothing! I am the Dictator!
You have no idea of the Pogrom I have planned for YT!!
YT will pay a price. His work and buildings will be gone!
As Rev Wright Told me, YT is the Evil of this earth and must be Exterminated!"
---Bath House Barry
However, i will still suck ziocon cocks. Xoxo, barry
God's angels have begun descending from heaven. Repent the end is nigh. And even without the angels the best way to live life is according to various religions because of the way a sustainable mind develops. It's long term goals are short-circuited by mid term gain which happended over 100,000 years of doubtful life expectancy. If you want to have a family and wife and money to pass on then yous gots to dust off the bible and get out that old time religion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59hWl7I81fc
I like how they call out men who cheat but not women. So cheating men are dirtbags but cheating women are A-OK. Gotcha
Either these are feminazi cunts or they have been brainwashed by this vagina pushing society acting like women are angels and can do no wrong even when they do wrong. So sick of this bullshit....and I blame men for it since too many men are so pussy whipped they just can't ever tell women to fuck off and call them out on their bullshit.
You sound like someone whose name might be on their list.
Loosen your tie, get rid of the pocket protector. Get a Hooters and be somebody.
I've pretty much been treated terribly by a lot of overly sexed women, because of their lusts. I haven't been with a girl intimately yet (27 male).
So you are giving yourself a hand?
Gosh. 27 males?
"Intimate" is over priced. Just stay with the overly sexed babes. Good value.
"Honey, why did VISA issue you a new credit card this week over a "security breach"?
I think people are going to be surprised to find out how many women are registered on the site. I bet you the number is higher than you think.
Can you count your Bitcoins .... by candle light .... on your cheesy, red and white checkered oil cloth covered kitchen table ?
Clinton is going to need his own freakin' server!
His 'n hers.
I think it's time I deleted my profile on findasheep.com, just in case.
This is seriously threatening my disbelief in karma ...
Yes Sex and cheaters are ruining this nation. They say it is none of anybody elses business, but it drives down public morality and helps ruin society. Marriage is sacred between God, man and a woman. Keep going and God will deal with it. Sex is good for marriage, but is idoltry to God. Think about it.
You think about it. Then write something again.
Ban sex, make war.
Freud's "shadow" is a fearsome thing. Suppress the libido and people can be made to kill more easily.
I'm afraid somebody used my id and credit card details....
Lawyers are going to have a field day. Family courts are going to be waaaaay backlogged.
The big secret is that all these 'cheating' sites are fake. Men are lured into paying with their creditcard for chatting with bots. When they discover that it is fake they cancel their accounts but are afraid to complain.
You may be onto something. It's the same clever elegance as the Nigerian scam, where you can't complain about being ripped off without admitting you attempted to commit a criminal act.
Duplicate post.
The price of technical incompetence.
Would be interesting to see how many fake hottie accounts were created to pad the available searches.
ROFL!
I've had an ongoing love affair with my right hand since about age 12 or so...
No hassles.
Wives and lovers come and go....the cheap date is always there...
Ah, yes.. Richard, meet Rosy.. Rosy Palm..
Mrs Palmer and her 5 daughters ....
Pizza and Pussy .... "We deliver !" .... sounds like a great business model ?
Grindr has a profile on it for "Pizza."
http://www.newnownext.com/when-pizza-joins-grindr-everyone-wins/05/2015/
first Bruce Jenner, now Tyler Durden, is Tyler Durden a man?
or is he just an old School American that thinks it's only dudes at the office cheating working late, not the hormonal emotional subject to manipulation female with "parts" that need attention and nothing to do all day but delve into soap opera and romance novel fantasy?
Tyler could be a girls name couldn't it?
This could only happen to people to lazy to find hookers the old fashioned way, street work.
NSA/CIA wants to destroy somebody?
I think you are on to something.
These aren’t ‘breaches’ but instead data dumps.
Thinking about it, it is not that bad. They could as well publish 37M random names from white pages and claim those have all been obtained by hacking ALM. Adding a profile picture would give it a little more weight, but only a moron would have a picture in one’s profile on a site like this.
If we study Aleister Crowley and understand what he was doing from early adult age, at the same breaking his own mother's heart. We then do have to wonder, of these 37 so million, how many of these are govt. officials, and attending parties engaging in such acts as demonstrated in "Eyes Wide Shut?" Society has been devolving since the at least the days of Ben Franklin and the Hell Fire Club. And before that -- Rome, especially among Cardinals witnessed by Luther himself. Today, especially since the 1960s, it is just increasing in frequency and amplitude, considering the utility of the internet and electronic payment ..
I think this is hilarious! :)
When it comes to pre-planning nefarious affairs of the heart, I am thinking the bitches are the ones exposed here - not the men.
Ashley Madison would be easier on my marriage than precious metals investing!
I support single mothers one dollar at a time. Guys, quit telling your wives it's pixie dust. She knows it's stripper glitter!
The thought of wives chasing their husbands through the neighborhood with kitchen knives, or men simply ending their lives with a loaded .40 cal pre-divorce death, reminds me of a quote from one of my all time favorite movies.
Teasle: Are you telling me that 200 of our men against your boy is a no-win situation for us?
Trautman: You send that many, don't forget one thing.
Teasle: What?
Trautman: A good supply of body bags.
First Blood, 1982
The 21st century 900#.
Who/What?
zzzzzzz Ah go feck yourselves ....................... Oh I see!
Internet kill switch now! Lol
Are there any publically listed divorce law firms I could invest in?
Bath House Barry doing the Ayatollah in the ass
Obviously a FemHack.
Life is short. Screw a feminist.
Always the possibility Ashley-Madison behind the hack. They have the info, why not do the blackmailing themselves?
good point.
maybe some sort of extra "data recovery fee". ruthless.
Life is short. So is your penis.
That is why the Dirk Diggler cock extender is only a phone call away!
http://msnaughty.com/blog/2010/09/22/the-dirk-diggler-dick-from-boogie-n...
Meh. It's part of our nature. Some researchers were working with a pair of apes who had been mates for 20+ years. They introduced a new female and the male nearly fucked himself to death...Stolen meat is TASTIEST!...
37 million ? How many had more than 1 account ?
Most women now are "predators posing as housepets" , not married they are pilled out and trashy and basically dont care where they end up. Single or divorced mothers all say the same thing " kids are the world to me" but they constantly are self medicated, completely neglectful also because of stress and shit choices. Plus they are cutters for attention. If they are married either they get fat and really dont go anywhere or they are always on the hunt for that picture in their mind of the rich man and endless trips.
I know, Im one of the guys they go to instead of hubby, they pay support i pay for a weekend hotel and bone the wife, fuck a marriage unless its 2 girls so if one fucks up or rams her car into a set of freeway obstacles at high speed for spite and attention, boot her ass out and you have replacements. Redpill called it plate spinning, clever little title.
Women just arent worth it these days. Statiscally they cheat more than men do. At least number wise after reading
"Most" women eh? You sound like a real piece of shit.
No, he's just a realist.
70% of all divorces get initiated by whom again?
And you sound like a blue piller, mangina (ie worst than feminist themselves).
Jenji Kohan and the Jewish Hyper-Sexualization of Western Culture
Ted Kennedy is not responsible for the Immigration Act of 1965
For more very excellent and challenging discussions, go to RedIce Radio. Enter 'cultural marxism' in the search field. Also scroll through the summary of posts for some topics that no other media that I know of has the balls to cover. Educational.
Jeff Gates - How the Israel Lobby Took Control of U.S. Foreign Policy and Public Opinionhttp://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2015/02/RIR-150213.php
Someone here linked to this blog a couple of days ago, didn't note who, but thanks for the tip, very good reading: David Swanson (War Is a Lie) http://davidswanson.org/
Another form of WOODSTOCK at a later date, Oh Yeah.
(Speaking to wife) God dammit, I was hacked again, better get new anti malware software. Gee honey, hope they didnt get you too
Found Bath house Barry's profile pic.
http://instinctmagazine.com/sites/instinctmagazine.com/files/images/blog...
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If he is Bath house Barry, his pic WON'T be there.
This should give pause to anyone who trusts their data to the so-called 'cloud'.
Ashley Madison? .... sounds fake. Ya know alot of these gals make that stuff up.
So someone is out there wanting to cheat on their spouse and to keep it secret. So they use their real name and visa card and are now surprised that the public has their sexual fantasy blogs, and probably a listing of the dates they have been on. Not smart.
OK -since my profile is now out in the public domain, I admit it!!!
That was me trolling Ashley Madison for a Hillary look-alike (preferrably in a Waffen SS uniform, with extra-tight, butt-hugging lederhosen) for friendhip and "discipline".... :(((
Forgive me.
you got a Nuyawk state of mind
Merkel would be better looking for the same fantasy.
http://operachic.typepad.com/opera_chic/2008/04/ohmeingott-ange.html
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?74604-Angela-Merkel-Nude...
I wont click on that after seeing a WB7 portrait of her awhile back ;).
Ya! Nice grosse weiner-snitzchels!
Achtung Hillary: sie ist kerplunken - fired!
Frau Merkel ist mein neu mega-babe!
Minus 1 on general principle.
So funny. First off, 95% of people will not even hear this story, much less search the database when it comes out. Talk about a weak news story. Might as well have been on The Onion.
Serves the iniquitous, reprobate, fornicataors right.
Hackers are a bigger threat to the privacy rigths of Americans than Homeland Security ever was. For most people the only secrets they have worth protecting are who they are having sex with or trying to have sex with. Anyone who believes in privacy has to absolutely condemn this criminal act.
I hope the hackers involved in this are hunted down by their victims.
Privacy doesn't exist and has not since you had a birth certificate unless you are Obama and you are not. Do you have a SMART phone; the SMART comes from the side from which you got it, the DUMB comes from all the "I agree" we breeze through and give up our privacy. The privacy under terms of use on most things we use now, including the online banking and bill-pays force us to give it up.
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The box looks like this; if you do not send your kids to school you are breaking the law and if you do disagree with the vaccination cocktails, then you can't send them to school....this is one example of how they take decisions away from parents and into the "Banking, Industrial, Military Cabal" who leave carnage & wreckage and is the path of misery.
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Look up the definition of Freedom, most never have, no one can name a person who ever walked the face of the earth that had real freedom as it is defined. Our intellect often stops with our emotional bias dressed up as reason.
Pocatello, ID was the scene of a 'swingers' party, complete with live band, food and beverages.
Mostly Mormons were there.
How do I know this?
I am a competent musician of percussion and Jazz drumming, among other genera.
Being a member of a local Pocatello group, we were hired to perform at a 'swingers' party.
I had never performed for such a function ever. I wasn't quite sure about performing for such an event, myself being new to that area. I was assured things were under control, since the group I was with, had performed for that function in that past.
I showed up ready to go at the drums. There were drums available, so I didn't have to provide my own equipment.
Yes, the married people were encouraged to not be with their mates, and we played on.
All the while, I was thinking how ironic these Mormons are on the outside, but in private, it seems anything goes.
We took a break for the second 'act' and were slated to return for a second show, and that was my cue to exit-stage-get-the-hell-out-of-there-now, and I split. No second show for me.
Those people are out of their minds and no telling what they would do. I didn't want anything to do with them.
Outside, there were people arguing over who is with who and who is not.
I told this story to my bro-in-law, and he had a tale of the Chancellor of Idaho State University.
It turns out, the Mormons use the Fort Hall Indian Reservation as their 'get away' from their world to get drunk, do drugs (marijuana), and fornicate unwed carnal knowledge.
The rez is pretty large with an old mining road that goes up into the hills a long way.
My bro-in-law lived on the rez, and was up that way, on a Sunday, coming down the mining road (paved) from cutting a load of wood. They were in a turnout to eat and rest a bit before heading home, when he said a small sports car came flying down the hill past them, missed the curve and flew off the road down the side of the hill.
He, my bro-in-law, said they ran down to help and the car didn't flip but ground into the rocky dirt and the driver hit his head on the steering wheel (no airbag). The drivers head was bleeding and some one went for help, because there is no cell phone in that area of the rez.
My bro-in-law went on to say, the driver, he, was not too beat up and was able to get out of the car, and the driver was very drunk.
When they said to not move around and help was on the way, the driver told them he didn't want any help and didn't want the police or medics.
It turned out, this drunk driver was the Chancellor of Idaho State University, and he was out on the rez getting his drunk on and racing around in his sports car having a good old time, thinking, what ever happens on the rez, stays on the rez.
Well, he was outed, and soon after resigned. He was also Mormon.
This is not a 'Mormon-bash', but the truth. First hand experience with 'them'.
Yes
No
Poll: How many here at zh ever cheated on their partner?
This story sounds like a Hillary stunt.
From God's perspective or man's?
Another consequence of this is; even if you have never gotten involved, how can you prove your innocence if for one reason your name is included in the list published by hackers?
Maybe the shit starts with legalization of this kind of shitty websites / organizations. When a society starts getting degenerated, it gets shittier and shittier...
This is no surprise to the Christian because God has forewarned us about our inherited nature and the effects & affects it has on our entire being and on the universe. It gets a hell of a lot worse in the eternal state when all are judged according to Moral Perfection, which no one has. It is why Jesus came and died and rose again and while on the cross He was made sin, not a sinner, and suffered the penalty so some (the OT saints (remnant) and the NT Christians (remnant)) do not have to and only He could achieve it. Salvation is so difficult that only God could achieve it and He offers it freely via Jesus the anointed one of God, who is God.
What is salvation in 2 minutes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMlv21zGARM
It's better now in a mass outing than potential mass black mailing.
According to those who defended bill clinton, cheating is no big deal. and so many peole today its's just sex, so if that's the case, why is this supposed to be a big deal?
Obama's two former (dead & buried, not Barry'ed) male escorts would make Clinton look like a poster-child for morality. If the truth were known for a day, the entire world system would come crashing down. Just like if all your deeds and thought were recorded on a DVD & played on a big screen with all your friends, relatives and others; you would run for the nearest cave. True for everyone; it is that nature that will be judged before a perfect moral standard by the Judge of the Universe and no one can stand on their own merits; on on the merits of Jesus the Christ. The Scripture, the very words of God, tell us all these things and warns us and commands us to be reconciled...for our good.
Dangerous game, these guys are playing. If those people are really powerful, it just might get them killed.
Hacker groups would be better of hacking secret government documents and releasing them. That could have some social benefit. This release does not, it just destroys some semi-functional families and the kids in these families will suffer most.
Also these hackers are probably single males who are frustrated by their inability to get pussy. After 15 years of marriage (if they can marry, which is quite doubtful) they will become the same cheating lying scumbags. Guaranteed.
It is likely a group from "Murder Inc.", such as the NSA...the same people that took the Federal Employees data and blamed on another nation immediately.
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Remember what Janet Napolitano stated before she left the DHS? News Title: "Departing DHS secretary warns of 'serious' cyber-threat, devastating natural disaster" http://www.rt.com/usa/janet-napolitano-farewell-speech-084/
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What is most distrubing to me is the dogmatic way she stated: "warn the nation’s leaders of an impending “serious” cyber-attack as well as a natural disaster, the impact of which will dwarf Hurricane Sandy and other disasters in recent memory"...this begs the question; how does she know? She is warning and these things generally take place 2-3 years after the warning; that is coming up very soon. Perhaps Yellowstone? They have been pounding away at that for a while. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIIThOZfC68 (make a mental note at 4:35 when he states it has been going on for 2 years)
QUOTE: "As the Wall Street Journal noted in a May, the company had voiced plans for an initial public offering in London later this year with the hope of raising as much as $200 million."
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I'll guess it was done by 1 of 3 possible entities who have the most to gain: 1) NSA (Murder Inc.) 2) Chinese-Russian Alliance or 3) Israeli Cybersercurity