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Desperate California Farmers Turn To "Water Witches" As Drought Deepens
You know it's bad when... With most of California experiencing "extreme to exceptional drought," and the crisis now in its fourth year, state officials recently unleashed the first cutback to farmers' water rights since 1977, ordering cities and towns to cut water use by as much as 36%. With the drought showing no sign of letting up any time soon, and the state’s agricultural industry suffering (a recent study by UC Davis projected that the drought would cost California’s economy $2.7 billion in 2015 alone), Yahoo reports farmers have begun desperately turning to "water witches" who "dowse" for water sources using rods and sticks.
With nearly 50 percent of the state in “exceptional drought” — the highest intensity on the scale — and no immediate relief in sight, Californians are increasingly turning to spiritual methods and even magic in their desperation to bring an end to the dry spell. At greatest risk is the state’s central farming valley, a region that provides fully half the nation’s fruit and vegetables. Already, hundreds of thousands of acres have been fallowed, and farmers say if they can’t find water to sustain their remaining crops, the drought could destroy their livelihoods, cause mass unemployment and damage the land in ways that could take decades to recover.
Meet Vern Tassey...
Vern Tassey doesn’t advertise. He’s never even had a business card. But here in California’s Central Valley, word has gotten around that he’s a man with “the gift,” and Tassey, a plainspoken, 76-year-old grandfather, has never been busier.
Farmers call him day and night — some from as far away as the outskirts of San Francisco and even across the state line in Nevada. They ask, sometimes even beg, him to come to their land. “Name your price,” one told him. But Tassey has so far declined. What he does has never been about money, he says, and he prefers to work closer to home.
And that’s where he was on a recent Wednesday morning, quietly marching along the edge of a bushy orange grove here in the heart of California’s citrus belt, where he’s lived nearly his entire life. Dressed in faded Wranglers, dusty work boots and an old cap, Tassey held in his hands a slender metal rod, which he clutched close to his chest and positioned outward like a sword as he slowly walked along the trees. Suddenly, the rod began to bounce up and down, as if it were possessed, and he quickly paused and scratched a spot in the dirt with his foot before continuing on.
A few feet away stood the Wollenmans — Guy, his brother Jody and their cousin Tommy — third-generation citrus farmers whose family maintains some of the oldest orange groves in the region. Like so many Central Valley farmers, their legacy is in danger — put at risk by California’s worst drought in decades. The lack of rain and snow runoff from the nearby Sierra Nevada has caused many of their wells to go dry. To save their hundreds of acres of trees, they’ll need to find new, deeper sources of water — and that’s where Tassey comes in.
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Tassey is what is known as a “water witch,” or a dowser — someone who uses little more than intuition and a rod or a stick to locate underground sources of water. It’s an ancient art that dates back at least to the 1500s — though some dowsers have argued the origins are even earlier, pointing to what they say is Biblical evidence of Moses using a rod to summon water. In California, farmers have been “witching the land” for decades — though the practitioners of this obscure ritual have never been as high profile or as in demand as during the last year.
“It’s an energy of some sort. ... Like how some people can run a Ouija board. You either have it or you don’t. You can’t learn how to get it, but if you do have it, you have to learn how to use it,” he said. “It took me years to get my confidence. ... At first, you are a bit leery of telling someone they are going to have to go dig a $50,000 hole. What if nothing is there? But over time, I learned to trust.”
Across the Central Valley, churches are admonishing their parishioners to pray for rain. Native American tribal leaders have been called in to say blessings on the land in hopes that water will come. But perhaps nothing is more unorthodox or popular than the water witches — even though the practice has been scorned by scientists and government officials who say there’s no evidence that water divining, as it is also known, actually works. They’ve dismissed the dowsers’ occasional success as the equivalent of a fortunate roll of the dice — nothing but pure, simple luck. But as the drought is expected to only get worse in coming months, it’s a gamble that many California farmers seem increasingly willing to take.
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As Gaius Publius (via Down woith Tyranny blog) concludes, here's what's more likely to happen...
The social contract will break in California and the rest of the Southwest (and don't forget Mexico, which also has water rights from the Colorado and a reason to contest them). This will occur even if the fastest, man-on-the-moon–style conversion to renewables is attempted starting tomorrow.
This means, the very very rich will take the best for themselves and leave the rest of us to marinate in the consequences — to hang, in other words. (For a French-Saudi example of that, read this. Typical "the rich are always entitled" behavior.) This means war between the industries, regions, classes. The rich didn't get where they are, don't stay where they are, by surrender.
Government will have to decide between the wealthy and the citizenry. How do you expect that to go?
Government dithering and the increase in social conflict will delay real solutions until a wake-up moment. Then the real market will kick in — the market for agricultural land and the market for urban property. Both will start to decline in absolute value. If there's a mass awareness moment when all of a sudden people in and out of the Southwest "get it," those markets will collapse. Hedge funds will sell their interests in California agriculture as bad investments; urban populations will level, then shrink; the fountains in Las Vagas and the golf courses in Scottsdale will go brown and dry, collapsing those populations and economies as well.
Ask yourself — If you were thirty with a small family, would you move to Phoenix or Los Angeles County if the "no water" writing were on the wall and the population declining? Answer: Only if you had to, because land and housing would be suddenly affordable.
All of which means that the American Southwest has most likely passed a tipping point — over the cliff, but with a long way to the bottom to go.
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Not to worry, a mega El Nino is building for fall and winter. If nothing changes, the storms and rains should be epic in California. Losses will be huge, but it will rain.
Hopefully a great Sierra snowpack this winter that does not melt to soon in the spring.
Here in flyover country we just put guttering on our barns and have all this rain put into barrels for later. And my barrels are running over.
Just leave that God-forsaken place and come out to the Midwest where you can grow stuff...if your land is uphill from all the rain we've been getting.
No, don't. Californians need to stay where they are at. Quit encouraging them to export their idiocy.
"Desperate California Farmers Turn To "Water Witches" As Drought Deepens"
That's mean. Hillary is not a Water Witch - she's a cankled reptilian. I didn't even know she was in California this week - did they just get a fresh load of babies for her to feed on?
Dousing works. Honest.
Only problem is you find "new" water and CA says it's theirs and subject to restrictions.
Remember kids, the EPA says all puddles are theirs.
Yeah I have a creek in my backyard and wouldn't think of touching it. Theft of water is a F-E-L-O-N-Y. Well, I did think of it but all I did was put in a collection tank. The pumps will come after the zombie apocalypse starts when .GOV will be too busy to enforce the crazy water laws in this state. Really, the are crazier than the state is and that's a high bar to top. On the other hand I am scratching my head on the article saying the drought is deepening. ??? It never rains in the summer here so how is this any worse than any summer. Maybe the current floods in SoCal from hurricane Dolores are making it worse?
Drought is cumulative. You're thinking of just the here and now.
Here.....let me give you an analogy.
Seasonal drought = Deficit
YoY drought = Debt
Even if you get big rains......it will take YEARS for that to seep down to the underground aquifers. You may get a bump in the reservoirs.
But remember.....it has to out rain.....year over year.....every year......to beat the growing population of not just California. But every state west of the Rockies.
It's a race that you can't win in the long run. Until enough people leave....or die.....or both.
maybe the californians can get together and use their crystal power and other hippie bullshit to solve the water problem.
We tried that shit in the 60's... didn't turn out so well...
Try again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAzTnsSgs2s
I was less than 12 in the 60's. An Air Force Brat with eventual Chief Senior Master Segeant Mm, and Senior Master Sergeant Dad. I was hard core drilled in the miitary.
I was about six when I saw hippie assholes egg retuning VN vets (my memories are like a Forest Gump Movie, as a military brat, I was actually there at the time). Ad I was there at Buckley Field in Colorado, whenmy dad told those in attendace what hadeen shot out, what was failing, which wing and position the enginehad to be replaced, (He's VA accredited deaf now, after30 years, from flight line activities, with un-VA recognized cancers on his arms from bathing in Agent Orange as a US suggested mosquito repellant.)
Having a classmate be told his father had died in Viet Nam(and the son had to accept his MOH) when the Principle looked at you in absotlue sympathy as he announced the death...I don't wish that on him or me.
This brings me to tears every time I remember it. Even now.
To this day, as the Principle cme towards me, I thought is was my dad, not the kid next to me. I had no idea of the number of military kids in my elementry school.
Somebody call?
@Knukles,
I agree, I think it works too, but I was a skeptic 'til I saw for myself. I'm in the outback of San Diego, and in 2012 I was exploring drilling a well. A buddy, who is a long time resident here, was reputed to have "the gift". Like the guy in this article, my buddy says he doesn't take money so I lured him with promises of beer.
His dowsing rods indicated water all along the south property line, right where my municipal water lines were buried. He had no way of knowing that. He also got indictaions at all my underground irrigation lines; he even found my septic tank!
Finally he indicated a spot whereI knew there were no infrastructure items. He shrugged and said "I kinda think there's water right down there."
He was right. The drillers hit a vein at 450 feet down that yields 55 gallons per minute. That's a gold mine here, especially nowadays.
I'll never be able to pay off that beer debt, but I'm tryin'!!
There was a man named King, a well known dowser, in his late seventies living in San Rafael. People were flying him all over the state in the eighties. I picked him up and brought him over the hill to our place. He walked the property and ended up making several passes up and down the steep driveway in front of the house. We were up on a hill. He said there's water, but it won't amount to much, at the most 5 gals a minute. Then he held this copper rod parallel to the ground, a few inches above and it started going up and down. He said every oscillation was about 20 feet. Said we'd hit water somewhere around 170 feet. The well was 3.5 gals a minute at around 180 or 190 ft.
When I lived in Bakersfield, we would use a 5 gal bucket under our bathroom sinks (wouldn't fit in kitchen) and plug the drain in the shower and reuse the water. I kept a great backyard garden going without using a drop from the hose.
This weekend VisionQuest mentioned that...
That comment reminded me that I had resorted to using central A/C condensate to water plants during a watering ban.
Yesterday, I dug around and found this paper on condensate water collection from HVAC units. Tonight I took a copy to a school board meeting and gave it to the principal architect for the school district's new buildings. Waste not, want not.
http://esl.tamu.edu/docs/terp/2008/ESL-HH-08-12-40.pdf
Anyone still living in California really needs an escape plan. They will need it. But Californians have a weird attitude, they assume nothing will happen even though it's been such an incessant deterioration.
Also: Hoping to reach black voters, GOP spends big on far-left radio company
http://tinyurl.com/o6bh6lc
Linky for JB's comment:
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/us/news/articles/climate-and-environmen...
Regards,
Cooter
Wow, seven comments in and no geoengineering links yet? Well: geoengineering is real, folks! But, no links today...instead, let's assume for a second that geoengineering IS real (for you skeptical folks): what would happen if, after all these years of zapping the skies with aluminum and HAARP, they were to go cold turkey?
Could you say, Super El Nino, as CC linked to above?
Or better yet...how about:
"The Day After Tomorrow?"
Time to stock up on silver, food, guns, bullets...and minks!!
It's equally possible that nothing whatsoever would happen, or various things might happen, some good, some not so good, depending on local variables. That's the trouble with so much weather- and climate-related conspiracy theory. Zealots tend to accept one narrative and dedicate their lives to its defense as a means for personal validation and advancement. By necessity, crisis is the price of disbelief, because there's no promise of more power without a suitable emergency. That's what Kuntsler had in mind with his title "The Long Emergency." The perfect crisis is the one that is most "sustainable," hence elite-sponsored Agenda 21.
Con men haven't changed. In ancient times, celestial phenomena necessarily presaged doom. In Victorian times, the Millennium spawned all kinds of sleazy Catastrophist groups. And of course, we have the omnipresent religious escapists who yearn for Armageddon and End Times. Always, it boils down to manipulation for ego and power.
More worrisome should be the lack of any mention whatsoever of the PACIFIC DECADAL OSCILLATION and related long term weather cycles. The 20th century was unusually wet: we're reverting to the longer-term historic mean. Tyler has addressed this before with details from various contributors. The term (PDO) seems VERBOTEN in mainstream climate discourse.
Dowse your brains out, sheeple! If that doesn't work, you can always try squeezing rocks.
And for cities near the coast, there's rainfall or stormwater capture, which is a lot cheaper than desal. Currently a single storm in LA County can send 10 billion gallons of water into the Pacific Ocean. Look it up.
Yo, Forest, welcome to these here partz.
well, actually not. 'cuz, there are "rules" that doing such capture (despite certain recent movies" would ... er ... fuck up the perfect salinity of the deep ocean blue. So that b a non-starter.
I heard somewhere that "Stupid is as Stupid does." Soundz like the eco-freaks in the Environmental Pollution Agencies of various stripes. Another branch off of the new religion.
- Ned
Thanks. The enviros support stormwater capture because it reduces polluted stormwater that gets dumped in the ocean, and takes less energy than pumping water from the Colorado river and other places. Can't get much more green than Andy Lipkis of treepeople.org.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ashoka/2015/04/15/why-does-california-let-bi...
Meh. If that witch can't piss out a million years of pent up water, then it ain't no use in finding a little aquifer here and there only to suck it dry within a year.
...and California will get in 10 days 10 years worth of rain, most likely.
they dump hundreds of millions of water into the ocean and then fine you for water YOU PAY FOR
100% right. Not only that, they pay farmers to let their crops rot in the fields or not grow at all. Two words: STEALTH INFLATION. Feel sorry for the sucker who believes this is all real.
“It’s an energy of some sort. ... Like how some people can run a Ouija board."
Sorry, but if you told me that and then asked me for money I would laugh in your face.
My father was a farmer and hired people like this when necessary. On a 200 acre farm the water witch was successful each and every time. Around four wells. Granted, some of the wells did not output as much as we needed. But it does work. Don't knock it until you try it.
If it works, those 'witches' better have zipped lips.
One word of a success and .gov will be all over said 'witch' and the guy that employed him/her
Not something to put in the local newspaper!
You guys should try it. Take two coat hangers cut them and then bend them into an L shape. Hold them in your hands loosely (so that they can flop around), keep your hands about 8-10 inches apart and then go outside and cross where your utilities come in to your house. Then walk around your yard or property and find everything else.
John Campbell and some author in Maine (name escapes) both were dowsing skeptics and then wrote articles about their observations (much as Ms No describes). Articles still would be around if the Ministry of Truth were not such double-plus-good at their jobz.
- Ned
See my post below. East of the Mississippi, it's hard to miss;)
Did it ever occur to you that you could have dug a well anywhere on that 200 acres and gotten water? Aquifers are very large.
@TheEndIsNear,
Not necessarily. Depends on the geology. Where I'm at in San Diego the underlying ground is mostly granite. Water exists in cracks through the granite, not in aquafiers, with some cracks small and others larger. My well driller told me that they occasionally will drill a duster, then move the rig over twenty or thirty feet and drill again where they find water. It's a crap shoot.
Yup. The naysayers haven't a clue how this works.
"Did it ever occur to you that you could have dug a well anywhere on that 200 acres and gotten water? Aquifers are very large."
That's not the point. You want to do this efficiently by not having to drill deeply and choosing a location near your crops, otherwise the cost to pump goes up a lot along with the initial cost of the irrigation system. Ideally you go from well to crops, shortest possible distance with enough flow to do the job. If you do it wrong, the cost to drill can go from $10,000 to $50,000 easily, just because you picked the wrong spot. Good luck in the farming business, "yeah sir, I read it on Zero Hedge, just pick any spot on this 200 acre farm and you'll get water... eeny, meeny, miny, moe." Too many know-it-alls here.
I up arrow you just for your avatar
Water, Witchez!
(The real liquidity crisis).
water witchez,bitchez
I spent some time doing utility locating and witching works. Sorry but it does. My boss proved it to me and I still occasionally experiment with it since I don't have my own locating equipment. One day I taught half a cert class how to do it on lunch break. It usually just detects general underground anomalies. Probably electromagnetic or something.
I am skeptical of the deep oil and water but there was an "oil witcher" in the employ of Exxon for 3 decades, so who knows.
Correct, used an old time douser for my well in the hills above San Jose. Not a lot of water on the east side. Old guy tells me to dig "right here" because there are two flowing water sources separated by 50 to 100 feet of earth that intersect this point.
Had the drillers drop their rig right at that spot and hit water at 190 and again at 300 feet.
Now, if I only knew how much longer it keeps pumping....
I've done this in Illinois with my Uncle and Dad. The water table is 25-35 feet, so you can't miss. It's the rate of flow they look for there. We used a forked hickory stick, pulled gently apart, which actually does seem to pull down really hard in certain locations. Whether that has anything to do with water level or flow, I have no idea.
Some people use the rods in the Midwest, but they don't bounce. They start parallel, but pull inward and cross, when you hit the sweet spot. Even the "force" is different in California;)
May the farce be with you.
The farce is with us all, already. But we were discussing water, not the Fed and managed economies.
We used one too when I was a kid. That was fun to watch - the shaking stick and all. My brothers and I snickered behind his back, but he found water. Turned out to be undrinkable though.
Gravitational field is stronger over underground water, wonder if that is the reason???
In my neck of the woods, every builder uses a well driller that either employs a water witch, or is one.
They use Witch Hazel here, and have a near 100% success rate.
Without it, success is around 50%.
I keep a bottle of Witch Hazel under the bathroom sink. Every time I turn the faucet on water comes out. It must work.
Water witches? Didn't she melt in the Wizard of Oz?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQJ8WrKnLUs
Bases at Woodborough - Harald Kautz Vella (Black Goo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j88BcgzzcTc (2:10:27)
Published on Jul 15, 2015
Harald Kautz-Vella presents his detailed lecture on the two types of Black Goo, Morgellons, and Artificial Intelligence at the Bases Woodborough conference held on June 20th.
My driller told me there would be water no matter where he drilled. That 20 gpm well suits me. Local knowledge is what counts. That's why Mr. Tassey "prefers to work closer to home."
I WAS!!! watching and the weather babe said it was a 9-Sigma!!!!! event and none of the models had predicted this and all of Cali needs so much water and it was really good to get so much rain b-cuz all of our lawnz need Sooooo much water and that the .gov was working on the issue so that everyone could, like, return to their normal lives and all. <<scheduled breath>> <<cut co commercial>>
- Ned
{myself, I think she's gonna' use this as a part of her aud for CNBS, just sayin'}
The Weather Channel pushes man made global warming bullshit. Fuck the Weather Channel.
Here in the California it was a perfect rain. A slow,steady drizzle that seeped into the ground. We had pools of water on pavement and drainage areas but few flashfloods (lower desert apparently got a harder rain than we did.) The flashfloods I saw resulted from the pavement.
lmao, yah but the 130 year record rainfall was only about an 1" of rain. Just enough to wash the dust off the horses back then or your car today.
I've done dowsing many times - not recently though. An old farmer taught me how to use a Y branch (not dead wood) just big enough to hold with both hands in front of you. Hold it firmly but not tightly and just walk - let the branch point you to the direction it wants to go - you'll know when you're on top of something - the branch will dip up and down. You can use this to find lost items too. Basically anything really I suppose. It definitely works locating water.
we use pussy willow branches here in the carolinas. it works for water, never had much luck finding pussy with one.
my dick gets hard and points up whenever I get near pussy. maybe you were using the wrong divining rod.
This is just one of a large collection of ways in which a well developed psychic sense can be put to the use of the betterment of mankind. It's quite a pity that Christianity, when it deigns to recognize the psychic faculty at all, generally describes it and its results as being demonic in character. Spiritual power isn't evil. Using it to harm the innocent is.
Wata witchen is from da debil
I hired a water witch in 1990. What a bunch of BS. Couldn"t sell the property fast enough.
My "friend" with the gift is laughing (and grabbing another two beers, go figure) at your stupidity for buying the prop in the first place. Could b (I'm not saying this, tho'): "Stupid is as Stupid does"
That thought is arriving a lot tonight into my little brain.
- Ned
First rule, never hire a dowser...a real one will do it for free....or better,do it yourself.
Second rule...some land does not have water.
There's a lot of black people in California suffering. The rain is clearly raycis. Where's Al Sharpton?
these crises do hit minorities, women, and children the hardest.
As for Al? He has enough 2nd grade math to figure out that if he pays off his federal income tax debt, he and his "cause" are hosed.
B a trial for the bonfires...
- Ned
How many seasons of "normal" rainfall will it take to fill the reservoirs and lakes back up? Ten, twenty? This is a huge and very real crisis. Mix in a major pipeline destroying earth quake and you have tens of millions out of water right now. In three days they start expiring. Sell out and move now while there are still buyers........
the father of an aquantence of mine talked me into letting him douse for a well-- He picked the spot for me to drill---it was a stupid place to put a well so I had two wells drilled where I wanted them--one a three inch casing pounded down 90 ft--the other a 5x4 drilled 360ft -- the 90 ft has all I can pump clear cool water for the last 30 years and the 4x5 when uncapped shoots water four feet up out of the pipe--
I can't imagine the amount of water I could have got if I had followed the guys suggestions --I prolly would have drowned---
of course I live in Fl so maybe thats it?
Yo, g speed, in all fun the following:
I suggest that u talk to our friend nmewn and figger it out among u crackaz' If he had tot me 1 thing, it is that dere be some skary stuff a'goin' on among u Krackaz.
'course, here I am in New England with 90+ degreez heat and 96+ humidity and I sez to Mrs_Meat "hey babe, how about we settle down South???"
The computer screen did, evidently, survive this "thought experiment"
Drill on duuude.
- Ned
How much will the beans, corn, succotash and oranges bee this year? Futures are my investment tool at this point. I will take delivery if I get hungry...
There's a "Nitwit Spectrum" that goes from "I am a rational, scientific thinker" at the one end to "I'm a complete nitwit" at the other end. Religion, miracles, angels, and ghosts, for whatever reason, are somewhat socially acceptable and are distributed mid-scale. If you believe in witchcraft, more toward the nitwit side. If you believe in channeling the dead, goblins, and wood slyphs, even more toward the nitwit side. I suppose the complete nitwit believes that government is good, in addition to worms having souls.
Then there's dowsing. Not sure at all why this stupidity seems to fall somewhere in the middle of the scale. Really, some dude takes a tree branch and finds water 40 feet down? That's some high level nit-wit stuff right there.
I have a friend who is well educated in science, who has a masters, and who, for some bizarre reason, thinks he can do magic with sticks. We ran a test. I plowed a 20 foot by 200 foot section of ground and buried 5 different types of pipes parallell with the short side a foot or so down. Him, his wife, and his nitwit friend spent 20 minutes going up and down trying to "locate" the pipes. When they all planted their marker flags, not one got within 10 feet of a pipe.
Wife starts saying that "it's the water movement that matters."
I told them, "tell me the pipe size, the water movement rate, and the depth you want them and I'll excavate a field and set up pipes to test you, with the only catch being you pay me 10 grand for the effort when you can't find the pipes." No takers.
Just answer this - if people were able to magically find things under the ground, why would science, in the last 100 years, documented it and made use of it?
Because we live in a world full of nitwits. Interesting seeing that some people are aware enough to figure out the Fed and banks are killing this world but can't work out that you can't find water 40 feet down using twigs.
You hurt my feelings.
Goblins are REAL, dude.
One of my neighbor's kids was a goblin - I'm pretty sure he would eat dead cat's brains. I mean I was pretty sure he ate them - no idea if the cats were dead at the time or not. He always had black dirt under his fingernails. I figured his folks kept him chained up in the basement and he would try to claw his way out or something.
He became a vetrinary technician and works at a local animal hospital. Has that exact same goblin look as when he was a kid, except he's bigger and has a lot of really bad tatoos. I think one of them is a cat's head. He went Goth (surprise) and his fingernails are always pained black now. True story.
F'king goblins...
Frank, ya gotta read a bit more, but start with Knuth (it will require you to go beyond algoz), then u can go to my comment above (the Maine guy will come to me at 2 or 3 this morning)
B4 we might have a fruitful conversation to answer an excellent question, well, u mention so-called "science". Specifically, what is the subject/source/thing that guarantees the physical/chemical assumption that u are making that we can have a repeatable experiment? {one can have many singular events that are not "science" yet}
Above is not at all with respect to nitwitz or good fellaz.
u have conflated several discussions and therefore a reddie on ya.
we can continue
- Ned
Was watching the suvs and RVs wash down the streets accross california this week. The drought gets any worse and Noah better have his ark ready.
It is no big deal, witching anything...water, septic tanks, drains, graves. Get two copper wires and bend them into Ls...grab the short ends, ask the wires what you want to find, hold them out perpendicular in front of you, close your eyes and start walking. When the wires cross, ta'da...there it is. It works for most people, but most never try.
It has nothing to do with demons or magic. It has something to do with electrical or magnetic currents in the ground crossing. Your mind attunes to it, just like a meter reading underground telephone wires. That is why you "ask" the wires what you want to find...it is just setting your mind to what you want.
Go ahead, down vote me .
Your proposl is acceptable (stole that, but it fits)
but, yes, a big-enough deal for many.
- Ned
..and those "electrical or magnetic currents" thau speak of shalst be driven by free energy right?
Svend...the earth is full of faint currents running betwen the north and south poles just like a magnet, any 4000 year old Egyptian knows it. If something under ground breaks the current, that is what the rods find. It is pretty simple concept to understand.
i've seen dousers find wells less than 20ft. and i've felt the y handle of willow branches pulling down myself. i am educated and pretty solid but i've actually felt the pull, then they dug a big round pit about 8 feet across and at 20 feet hit water, they stoned up the sides covered it and put in a pump. that well is still there and has nice fresh water.
turning witches into water dont pay
as I recall, water turns witches into smoking puddles, at least ... er ... Oh nvm
My 94 y/o aunt is about as skeptical a person as you would ever want to meet. She used to douse for water. Some people have it, some people don't.
Dousing for water works. A douser using a forked ree branch, found water within the perimenter of our apartment complex in India. The people in the next apartment complex, reluctant to spend money on a dowser, dug on the other side of the compound wall, few inches from where we found water and they got Zilch, not a drop. Maybe plants have an ability to find water which we haven't figured out yet.
maybe we need Geoff Lawton to teach in california
http://www.geofflawton.com/sq/15449-geoff-lawton