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Obama's Goals For Middle East Hinge On Putin
Submitted by Robert Berke via OilPrice.com,
“I will teach you my townspeople how to perform a funeral for you have it over a troop of artists— unless one should scour the world—you have the ground sense necessary,” Tract, a poem by William Carlos Williams.
Even after a few weeks have passed, the unexpected visit of the Saudi Deputy Crown Prince to the St. Petersburg Economic Forum still has a lot of people scratching their heads. The news is full of widespread and contradictory theories, while questions abound.
Why had the Saudis accepted an invitation from a country sanctioned by the U.S., its oldest and strongest ally? Had the Saudis chosen to abandon the U.S.? Were the crafty Saudis playing Russia off against the U.S.?
To confound matters more, why was the desert country proposing a $10 billion investment in Russian agriculture and infrastructure? Rattling everyone’s brain was the Saudi proposal to purchase some 16 nuclear plants to be developed by Russia’s state-owned nuclear monopoly, Rosatom, in a deal that, if concluded, could be worth more than $100 billion. Then there was the matter of the Saudis and Russia announcing the formation of an energy partnership between two of the largest global energy producers.
By the time the Forum ended, confusion reigned supreme.
It is still a bit early for all the pieces to neatly fit together but now, after the dust has settled somewhat, a pattern seems to be emerging that may explain the situation.
Most observers believe the Saudis are angry with the U.S. for a host of reasons, foremost amongst them are the nuclear negotiations with Iran, followed by the U.S. decision to keep arms-length distance from the conflicts in Yemen, Syria, and Iraq. Yet, few Russian analysts subscribe to the theory that the Saudis are going rogue against the U.S.
Others are playing the endless game of trying to figure out what’s going on in the minds of the Saudi King and the Russian President. It just may be that they’re looking into the wrong minds. It's more than likely that the real puppeteer pulling all the strings is Obama. There appears to be a well-designed strategy emerging, one that has all the ear-marks of Obama’s audacity, with Putin eagerly signing on.
Strategy usually emerges in response to a problem. In this case, the problem is Obama’s growing skepticism over his adviser’s assurances that the Russian economy would soon collapse after the imposition of sanctions, further assisted by drastically falling energy prices.
U.S. Senator Feinstein, a close ally of the Administration and former Chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, has stated publicly that the tough-minded Russians are not likely to give in, adding that the Obama needs to send someone to talk with Putin. Other Obama supporters have made similar recommendations, including most recently, Hillary Clinton, saying that if she were President, she would keep close contact with Putin.
It’s important to note that not only has Putin’s popularity risen, but so has Obama’s, rising from the depths of defeat since the Republican Congressional victory. Now he seems to be winning everywhere, and recently has capped astonishing victories in Congressional trade agreements with overwhelming support from conservatives, who have shown little more than unremitting contempt for the President. This was followed by victories at the Supreme Court with decisions that removed legal and constitutional challenges to the President’s health program, and gay marriage.
With his confidence obviously rising, Obama seems once again to be focused on his legacy. For Obama-watchers, these are also the times when he most often turns away from his more hawkish advisors in favor of his prime peacemaker, Secretary Kerry.
In that context, a recent public statement by Kerry's spokesman is noteworthy: "The secretary doesn't agree with the assessment that Russia is an existential threat to the United States, nor China, quite frankly," with Obama voicing agreement.
In a stunning, dramatic shift of U.S. policy, after an eighteen month absence, in May, the U.S. State Dept. resumed contact with Russia, with John Kerry and his staff paying a visit to the Kremlin for a private meeting with Putin and his advisors. The meeting was widely assumed to be an attempt at reducing tensions, gaining Russia's help in Syria and Iran, while clearly refusing to give an inch on sanctions.
A few weeks after the Kerry meeting, the Saudi Prince came to St. Petersburg, with magnificent offers for the Russians. Israeli Intelligence sources claim this was a reward for backing UN sanctions on Iran.
If so, it means that the Saudis and the Gulf Kingdoms have resigned themselves to the fact that Obama has won the battle against domestic and international opponents of U.S./Iran nuclear negotiations.
Both the Saudi King and the Russian President are leading players in Obama’s dramatic re-engagement with the Middle East conflict. As one noted analyst has stated, “the Saudi-Russian rapprochement is rapidly acquiring a momentum that has the potential to reset the power dynamic in the Middle East."
Following close upon that, there were two phone conversations between the two Presidents, Obama and Putin, two men who are known to intensely dislike each other, but who remain exceptionally powerful in affecting major change when they choose to work with each other.
As noted, Ukraine and sanctions were not discussed in the Presidents' phone conversation nor in Kerry's Kremlin meetings. What they reportedly discussed was cooperation to staunch the growing turmoil in the Middle East along with Russia's much needed assistance in bringing the Iranian nuclear negotiations to a successful conclusion, in which both Kerry and Lavrov have been deeply involved. Sometime between the two phone calls, the Foreign Secretaries, Kerry and Lavrov, have now met twice, privately, reportedly to discuss Syria, while coordinating the efforts of allies.
As Syria remains one of the main concerns between the two sides, what seems to be emerging is that Putin is being brought back into negotiations as an intermediary between the main combatants, as one of the only world leaders with good relations with the Saudis, Israelis, Iranians, and Syrian Government.
Putin is also well known as an avowed enemy of jihadist terror, with Russia having suffered several horrific terrorist attacks. Before the Ukraine crisis, Putin was a leading member of the west’s negotiating team to stem Middle Eastern conflicts. It was Putin, after all, who persuaded Syrian President Assad to give up his chemical weapons, ending the certain risk of a U.S. bombardment of Syria, much to the dismay of the Gulf Kingdoms and Israel. Both President Putin and his Foreign Minister Lavrov also remain the guiding hands to Iran's nuclear negotiations.
After the announcement in Vienna of a historic 'breakthrough' agreement with Iran on the nuclear issue, Iran's Foreign Minister "...Zarif also praised the Russian idea that after a deal, it will be time to form a real counter-terrorism coalition, featuring Americans, Iranians, Russians, Chinese and Europeans — even as Putin and Obama had agreed to work together on “regional issues.”
Obama also agreed that the nuclear deal would have been impossible without Russia's help, stating here that "Russia was a help on this," Obama said Tuesday. "... Putin and the Russian government compartmentalized on this in a way that surprised me, and we would have not achieved this agreement had it not been for Russia’s willingness to stick with us and the P5-plus1 members in insisting on a strong deal."
Ironically, Russia may have been working against its energy interests in helping to resolve the Iran nuclear agreement. An Iranian nation free of sanctions could eventually become a formidable competitor to Russia's energy business, both in Europe and Asia. The Russians are also under no illusions that eventually the Iranians will be forced to move closer to the U.S. and the EU to gain the technology and financing to rebuild and modernize their long neglected energy industry.
Putin’s task as linchpin is to assemble a coalition with the over-riding priority to bring the ghastly Syrian war to an end, thereby unravelling a conflict that has spread to Iraq and Yemen, and threatens to engulf the entire region. Russia's close relationship with Iran is considered necessary to a successful conclusion to nuclear negotiations. Russian is also expected to provide diplomatic assistance aimed at smoothing strained relations between Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Israel, a formidable task to say the least.
It should be noted that this not the first time the Saudis have made the offer of a grand bargain to the Kremlin. In a meeting with Putin in 2013, Prince Bandar bin sultan made a similarly grand offer on the condition that Russia renounce its support for Iran and Syria’s Assad.
It was reported then that Putin flatly rejected the Saudi offer out of hand, but then there’s the inconvenient fact that went unreported in the western press, that shortly thereafter, Russia voted to support UN sanctions on Iran, as did its partner, China.
Do the Saudis see more hope for their goals now than previously? Putin has made it clear that he had no intention of throwing Iran to the wolves. As much as Iran badly needs Russia’s support, Putin’s plan for Eurasia badly needs Iran.
But as for the Syrian President, the story may be very different. Putin has publicly stated on several occasions that his support for the Syrian Government is not based upon any particular loyalty to Assad, but instead on the Kremlin’s consistent stance over the years against jihadi terror.
Some observers have interpreted these statements to mean that in any settlement with Syria, Putin considers Assad dispensable, as long as the Syrian Government can safeguard Russian interests in their country. Those interests include Russia’s naval base on the Syrian coast.
The continuing meetings of U.S., Russian, Iran, and Saudis, with the direct involvement of Obama and Putin, is creating no less than a seismic shift in Middle East policy. Chances for success? Difficult, at best, particularly, as the Iranian nuclear agreement now heads for approval from a hostile U.S. Congress, bent on the agreement's destruction.
The crucial question here is whether Congressional opponents and their allies are opposed to specific elements in this agreement, or are they opposed to any agreement with Iran? Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu obviously favors the latter. But if the nuclear agreement is viewed as an essential part of Obama's plan to resolve Middle-Eastern conflicts, as I think it is, than the attempt by Congress to void the agreement could seriously compromise the President's plan.
As many of his supporters have urged, Obama is orchestrating a plan to end the Middle East conflicts, with key supporting roles played by the Russians, Saudis, and Iranians. Widespread international support is already emerging, ranging from NATO allies all the way to China, with many of these nations having suffered repeated terrorist attacks and threats.
As for Putin, he enthusiastically embraces this ambitious endeavor that may help to re-establish his leadership role in the region, and, if successful, may also earn his country a get-out-of -jail card.
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All he has to do is just....bow.
What’s the alternative to the unipolar world, BIPOLAR? ;-)
Sigmund Freud
U.S., Russia, Iran and Saudi's....is it Isreal's turn in the barrel?
Zionists are on a NWO mission, and they're on a roll breaking national soveriegnity (i.e., Greece).
Possible next step towards their endgame, methinks....
<-- Obama has goals?
<-- Obama has own goals?
Yes he does. The bankers allow Obama and his gang of Marxist cronies to push their leftist social agenda just as long as no bankers go to jail.
http://nypost.com/2015/07/18/obama-has-been-collecting-personal-data-for...
"It's more than likely that the real puppeteer pulling all the strings is Obama."
I'm sorry. This had me rolling on the floor.
everything above still quoted in USD$, so..
Problem with this article is that it assumes Obama himself has goals, or even an opinion.
The left .... always pimping the nigger !
This "Plan" could result in both Saudi (also under pressure from its largest customer China) AND Iran pricing oil in CNY? Obama is such a genius.
MARXISM!? THAT'S THE CRAZIEST THING I EVER HEARD!
-- Groucho Marx --
Groucho is right. Get a clue or become a straight man for David Stockman.
Maybe the fudgepacker just wants to be cornholed by Putin...
"I'll have more flexibility in my second term""
(Pass the KY)
This is largely bullshit. For whatever reason, probably some kind of payback, US MENA policy (since WW2) has done a 180. Now Israel & KSA are the bad guys. Not good...to have these 2 see Barack Hussein Obama as their mortal enemy.
No one likes israel and Saudi Arabia...constantly locked in a horserace to see who is more contemptible.
Two lobbies that need to be shown the door from AmeriKan politics.
AmeriKa cannot show Israel and KSA the door. The Arabs have lots of oil, and the Jews have lots of cash. Then there's all the weapons sales...
While Obama may talk peace in the Middle-East, he has always relied on war, bombing seven predominantly Muslim countries. The Middle-East is now a seething cauldron of anger and hatred and peace is like an impossible dream now.
Putin has his cards to play and he will want his ally Assad to survive.
The chance for an agreement between Putin and Obama on the Middle-East is less likely than Caitlyn Jenner becoming Bruce Jenner.
Yeah, what a HORSE SHIT article. He promises, but never delivers, a reason for why the saudis are meeting with russia. Then he writes all that crap and never says what putin gets out of helping with iran talks.
Oil and the petro dollar are the only reasons. Saudi and russia control most of the oil market. The both want real value, not fiat dollars, for their oil. So they are best friends when it comes to weakening us power.
Russia wants iran and assad to survive because it prevents a competing natural gas pipeline to europe from being built. So they "help" make peace instead of having the US nigger chimp out and bomb once again.
It is really this simple. Obama gets a better legacy (ie hot air). Putin gets to control energy markets. You decide which is the better chess move.
...It's more than likely that the real puppeteer pulling all the strings is Obama.
Yeah, whatever dude... Just so you know, Obozo is just a sad sock puppet. He doen't have the intellect to be nowhere close the real puppeteers, except as receiver of their wishdom.
"Obozo is just a sad sock puppet."
Maybe when it comes to world affairs or the TBTF bankers, but not when it comes his leftist social agenda which is allowed to be implemented as long as it doesn't interfer with his puppet's agenda.
Obama the puppeteer or Obama the sock puppet? The truth is somewhere in between.
If as it appears (and no one has refuted Wayne Madsen's claims to my satisfaction,) Obama was chosen from the lower ranks of the Security State and raised and groomed to be President, apparently from the self-assured way he makes every move with his eyes wide open. He appears to be approaching the job of being chief sock puppet with unprecedented clarity.
If his real bosses - his golfing partners in the most exclusive clubs - are agreed on this grand scheme for getting the Middle East wars under control, then Obama's just the one to do it and make it look grand and noble. But no doubt he is more than that - he is a consensus builder as he moves around and talks with different power players, and a master promoter, packaging and selling his masters' ideas to the people.
All this requires a lot of golfing, so don't ever think he doesn't work hard!
The Bush babies on the other hand may have delusions that because the CIA is a family business they run the world - which makes them more dangerous.
Obama and his family were also involved with the CIA family business
http://www.infowars.com/bombshell-barack-obama-conclusively-outed-as-cia...
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2012/07/05/barack-obama-his-mother-and-t...
http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2012/01/hidden-story-behind-jes...
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/08/07/obama%E2%80%99s-cia-pedigree/
Even to have got this far Obarma must have TPTB on side.
Lets face it, there are huge potential markets and profit potential out there.
Maybe TPTB are moving their profit centres.
dunno
While TPTB did arrange our vile and unpopular war against the citizens of Iraq and were responsible for the execrable and Republican economy which began just before Obarfma took office, it's quite a stretch to say TPTB contrived Hillary to run against him in the primary and McCain in the general.Putins don't want to play the One World Government game so all the other kids and Token have been told to shun him.
All these words serve only one purpose - to hide the real problem. I mean the struggle for financial power, which we see between the US vs the Union of Russia and China.
Saudi Arabia is building nuclear reactors as well so this is all business.
The “seismic shift” in America’s Middle East policy, according to Antiwar.com’s Justin Raimondo, is happening because of the increased weakness of the Israeli Lobby in the United States.
Writes Raimondo:
The historic agreement signed by the P5+1 and the government of Iran marks a turning point in America’s relations with the world. It reverses the momentum of nearly fifteen years of constant warfare and puts us on a path to peace.
In terms of our relations in the Middle East, the agreement means the United States government has finally decided to pursue an independent foreign policy: Washington is no longer taking its marching orders from Tel Aviv. The Vienna accord is, in effect, our declaration of independence – and it came not a moment too soon. ….
… Note the legal framework upon which the agreement rests: the Nonproliferation Treaty, signed by 191 nations. Only four United Nations member states have refrained from becoming a party to this foundational treaty: Pakistan, India, Sudan – and Israel. The Vienna agreement underscores Israel’s outlaw status in the nuclear realm: Tel Aviv’s defiance stands in stark contrast to Tehran’s willingness to come in from the cold and join the community of nations in opposing the spread of nuclear weapons. From this point on, tremendous pressure will be brought to bear on the Israelis to come clean and agree to a similarly foolproof regime – which they will never do.
This is the real reason for Israel’s adamant opposition to the deal: their desire to maintain nuclear hegemony in the region. Now that Iran’s nuclear program has been brought to heel by international pressure, the Israelis are afraid that international pressure on them to do the same will commence. They are right to be afraid, just as the rest of the world is right to be afraid of the fact that Netanyahu’s finger is on the nuclear button: he could vaporize Tehran with a single command.
…the Israel lobby, weakened after a series of defeats, hasn’t got the votes in Congress to overturn the Vienna deal. Congress has 60 days to review the agreement, and you can bet they’ll be making a lot of noise in those two deafening months, but this time Israel’s American fifth column has been checkmated – and that marks another seismic shift.
Years ago, when Patrick J. Buchanan described Congress as “Israeli-occupied territory,” he was right on the mark: these days, however, it’s quite a different story. The Israel lobby’s unreasonableness, its dogmatic shrillness, and the viciousness with which it pursues its perceived enemies has created a backlash that has ultimately proved to be their undoing. Their hubris has undermined their legendary power – along with the objective fact that US and Israeli interests have diverged. All their tantrums and threats will come to naught, because in the end the American people don’t want to go to war with Iran – and certainly not in order to please Israel’s partisans.
With a single blow, President Obama has neutralized the threat of war with Iran that has been hanging over us for years – and obliterated Israel’s death-grip on our Middle East policy as well as our domestic politics. For that he deserves more than a mere Nobel Prize.
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2015/07/14/victory-in-vienna/
I like Raimondo but he's off the mark here. The Israel Firsters are ubiquitous, though we outnumber them, and have Jewish money behind them.
http://www.antiwar.com/moore/?articleid=13139
They also can still cry "antisemite" when their dual loyalty is called out - and some still take them seriously.
The Jewish Lobby isn't weakened - this Potemkin deal will be used as an excuse to give Israel all sorts of new goodies, for free, and then some excuse will be found or manufactured for there to be aggressive regime change ops in Iran, perhaps even a direct attack on leadership.
The nuke issue is nonsense, of course - at Issue is Iran's role as armer/funder of Hezbollah which prevents Israeli occupation/annexation of Lebanon - and Israel covets - has long coveted - Lebanon's water, gas, and farmland.
Obama has done nothing but kick the can a bit as Syria has not been as easy as the Zionist Jewish leadership thought.
Great article you cite by Michael Scheuer; I appreciated this comment by Scheuer’s 2008 piece:
“The Israel-firsters' success is, of course, the stuff of which legends are made. Most recently, for example, we heard President Bush echo Sen. Lieberman's insane and subversive contention that the United States has a "duty" to ensure the fulfilling of God's millennia-old promise to Abraham regarding the creation and survival of Israel. Bush told the Knesset all Americans are ready to endlessly bleed and pay to ensure Israel's security. And where does the president derive authority to make such a commitment in the name of his countrymen? From the Constitution? On the basis of America's dominant religion? From – heaven forbid – a thoughtful, hardheaded analysis of U.S. interests
“No, Bush's pledge was based on none of these. Bush's decision to more deeply involve America in the eternal Arab-Israeli war was based on nothing less than the corruption wrought on the American political system by the Israel-firsters, AIPAC's enormous treasury, and the lamentable but growing influence of America's leading evangelical Protestant preachers.”
Fortunately, today many of those Protestant preachers and Israel-firsters are now boycotting Israel.
And if there’s one man who understands those who wish to harm us, it’s Scheuer who was chief of the CIA’s Osama bin Laden Unit at the Counterterrorist Center in the late 1990s. Scheuer refused to buy the establishment's propaganda line that the attacks on America have nothing to do with what our government is doing in the Islamic world. Scheuer insisted: These attacks have “everything to do with what we do.”
Rainmondo may be close to the truth on this----I've gotten letters from congressmen stating that the Iranian agreement (Potemkin) is flawed and Iran will cheat, lie, falsify etc. The objections presented sound very much like Israeli talking points. Thank you JR for the comment and a +1 to you.
great post, JR.
and, yeah, i hate to admit this, but i'm rather proud of obama and the posture he's assumed viz. 'israel'. it's like the Bible says, "courage and fortitude in attacking hebrew mendacity covereth many a sin." and while obama doesn't get a pass on everything, janus is willing to forgive LOTS if he successfully sees this through.
but i remain, as ever, an ardent 'zionist'. the world cannot tolerate both the diaspora & 'israel'...it's either/or, hebrews...and it seems clear to janus that the jews have made their choice. so now you get that piece of land in the mediterranean, but you ALL must go. first from france, then GB, then the US and finally the remnants who think they can continue with one foot in two canoes.
toodle-ooh, jews. oh, and, once you're all gathered together in one place...well, that's chapter 2 -- and it's being written as we speak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhLztdvgpFY
i'm giving you a longer look/
everyday, everyday i write the book,
janus
You ceratinly are Monotone enough
i look at it like this. abraham lincoln once said (and i quote), "you can make some of the jews happy some of the time; and you can make some of the anti-semites happy some of the time; but you can't make all the jews and anti-semites happy all of the time."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G6H2tQCaOA
it's the dirty story of a dirty man/
and his clinging wife doesn't understand,
janus
Happy Jews == food and money (not sure which more important)
Happy anti-Semites == interest free loans and restricted country clubs
If only life was like a hand of cards that you could toss back in, reshuffle and deal afresh. (sigh)
They are right to be afraid, just as the rest of the world is right to be afraid of the fact that Netanyahu’s finger is on the nuclear button: he could vaporize Tehran with a single command.
Tehran? I doubt that. A false flag nuke attack while pointing the finger at Iran. 9/11 anyone?
Certainly not a false flag nuke. Not even a false flag shoot down of a passenger jet or a false flag gas attack with UN inspectors nearby.
A false flag contravention of the treaty will suffice.
And as for Tehran. Lyndon Johnson and the US Navy may have looked away when when IDF Chief Rabin ordered the USS Liberty to be sunk but Iran's allies will not look away if Netanyahu orders Tehran nuked.
Tel Aviv would be vaporized soon after.
Who expected the big reaction to a murdered archduke?
Even with all the cheerleading on both sides, russian and american, I've yet to distinguish how the oligarchs of each country do not come out as the victors each time. As much as I can sympathize with Putin supporters, I can't imagine russian oligarchy not in the same position to install their power player as it is in the US.
The .gov cadre wants oil prices to climb, so the US, Russia, and S Arabia are all in agreement on that point. The S Arabia/Iran bluster is pure dick-measuring, nothing worthy of a decades long US-Russia sponsored proxy war to show off the latest military hardware. S Arabia was pissed over the US shale, but the central banksters have fucked that up but good with their manipulating of commidities (downward, for now). The whole show is a distraction from the global fascism movement which continues to strip Americans of their Constituitonal rights.
Anything the Sauds have on offer is complimentary to the Washington Consensus and the Wolfowitz Doctrine; either of which as far as I have heard have not be abandoned as the prime strtegic goal of the western plutocrats The Americans want to see if they can effect a deal where Russia allows for the breakup of Syria into several smaller entities in order to receive some nuclear energy contracts and consideration on the price of oil with the Sauds in the deal. This would speed up the ending of the war in Syria with its partition as wished by the west or have it drag on inexorably. This would allow Middle East pipeline energies to reach Europe who could then be ordered to reject Russian energy supplies as prelude to further drives to destroy Russia economically and then politicaly. If I can figure this one out so to can those concerned with geo strategic matters as a matter of their everyday jobs.
I'll bet that Putin didn't greet him like Dubya did here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cMlIsd0seo
"You didn't hinge that."
Justin Raimondo, Antiwar.com, explains why he believes Obama’s Iranian agreement cannot be stopped by the U.S. Congress. Here’s his report:
… I am Bibi, the Great and Powerful!
And yes, he is powerful, albeit his power lies not just in Israel’s military strength – including a huge inventory of nuclear weapons – but also in the effectiveness of the international army that exists in every Western country, an Israeli fifth column which takes its marching orders from Tel Aviv. Ha’aretz reports:
“Netanyahu’s spokespeople said he plans to ‘kill himself’ pursuing the last remaining option for scuttling the deal – preventing its ratification by the U.S. House of Representatives – by persuading Democratic congressmen to defect to the Republican camp and vote against their president.”
Yet even here, despite their legendary influence, Israel’s “great and mighty” lobby is being outflanked by President Obama. To begin with, even if every single Republican in both houses of Congress votes against the deal, it will take a lot for the Israel lobby to rope in enough Senate Democrats to give them the necessary super-majority to override a presidential veto. This is very unlikely.
Secondly, since the Iran deal isn’t a treaty but rather an executive agreement, the President doesn’t even need the consent of Congress: what our solons will be voting on is a Republican-sponsored measure of disapproval. That measure will have new sanctions attached to it, and yet even if it does garner a super-majority, Israel’s amen corner will have scored a hollow victory, since no other countries will honor those sanctions, including especially the other signatories (Britain, France, Germany, Russia, and China). This will merely underscore our weakness in the face of international opinion. …
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2015/07/16/bibis-bombast-bamboozles-boehner/
“Netanyahu’s spokespeople said he plans to ‘kill himself’....got me excited for a minute. +1 for Israel's Amen corner.
Me too, then I realized that such a raging narcissist like Bibi would never voluntary deprive the world of his wonderful and positive and life-affirming presence.
I'm sure a signigficant number of people would love to help him succeed in this.
When will the US "9-11" the Saudis and officially own them via a Freedom War?
Amerika is getting its FP in order to benefit Americans.
Kudos to BO & State.
Two 'rogue' states are being isolated or better said, put in their place.
Now if the neocon Rep's and Israeli Dem Sens can step back and act like Americans than bought and paid for lobbyists, this may work out. Wait a sec. i just re-read my own writing. i think its my Ag/Au pf affecting me
the combine of two largest oil producers are talking, sa and russia. can the higher oil price be far away? both of them would like to strengthen their budget. it is interersting to watch what will happen next.
"The meeting was widely assumed to be an attempt at reducing tensions, gaining Russia's help in Syria and Iran, while clearly refusing to give an inch on sanctions."
Too fucking funny...looks like Russian sanctions are the next cave in by Kerry and BO.
Sounds good to me. Looks like the US will not be alone smashing one ISIS after another. You know it will never stop. It's all the Sand People have to do.
Why should SA continue an alliance with the US when Russia actually has a future? Russia and SA together could control nearly half the planets oil. While the US ran around playing false flag IS games and attempting to pummel the region into submission the Russians were out wheeling and dealing. Sometimes the carrot beats the stick.
"Obama is orchestrating a plan to end the Middle East conflicts"...
Obama could not orchestrate himself out of a wet paper bag...
But what *are* Putin's interests? Does even Putin know?
Obama is great at letting things run wild but that doesn't give Putin any guidance and presents as many dangers as opportunities. Plus Obama doesn't seem to like Russia, much. Ironic, huh. But then I don't guess Putin loves Obama, either, though that's not quite the symmetry.
SA, for a change, has my sympathy. They can't seem to find any allies - except Israel, and indirectly the poverty-stricken Egypt, and maybe Jordan for what that's worth. Could SA's troubles with Iran finally be enough to break them out of their seventh century stupor? Does Putin want to be their friend? Stay tuned, same bat time, same bat channel.
Putin is the new tzar
Pure guesswork! You never know what's in the minds of Sociopaths. Barry the Fence ( ha ha ).
The way the author talks about these so-called leaders. Not my leaders or the peoples' leaders sunshine. All a bunch of bastards toying with us.
If Putin sells out Syria we are back to square one and the world will break up more quickly into decentralized autonomous units based on tribal allegiances.
The Global fight remains The People AGAINST Bankers.
It would appear the Saudi’s are hedging their bets. What would you do, if you were Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, King of Saudi Arabia?
Come on guys. Barry Soetoro is no puppeteer. He is no more capable of pulling any strings without the permission of the Federal Reserve (which we all know is not "federal.")
Putin is no puppeteer as well. However, he is one master at chess. Barry, on the other hand is not even good at poker, unless some sly Texan is guiding his hand. (GHWB/Cheney?)
One has to consider other variables. Most Israelis, especially those in govt, have no traceable Hebrew blood. Their chosen faith (if they even genuinely practice it) is adopted. On the same, it is very likely the House of Saud is cryto-Jew. Yemen is being attacked largely because it is practically 1/2 Shia, and growing.
Let's present the problem, (the real puppeteers) and a real solution:
1) Problem/cause: http://www.veteranstoday.com/…/roadmap-to-redressing-econo…/
2) Solution: http://www.veteranstoday.com/…/wanta-plan-must-be-deployed…/
In all things, you "follow the money." The "money" [false] got us into this problem. The "money" [real] will get us out of this problem.
You only cite advantages to Obozo by cozying up to Putin through Saudi. Why would Putin want an alliance w/ Obozo?
You say to fight terror. You think Putin doesn't realize 9-11 and the war on terror is a colossal hoax including his own chechin incidents.
Saudi knows the dollar's days are numbered and are currently dumping their 1.3T in Treasuries for gold according to Jim Willie's EU gold contacts. He says the Saudis are still mad about losing their Swiss gold to the globalist banker thieves controlling Obozo.
One Big Ass Mistake America
Much will be revealed on Thursday when the scheduled manned launch to the ISS, to bring its crew up to a full complement of six astro/cosmonauts takes place.
If it is postponed by Roscosmos because of problems and uncertainty about the crew's safety, the two Russians and one American aboard the station will have to wait for relief until Russia fixes those problems or NASA can bust the monopoly by the Russian Uber to and from the ISS (tentatively December 2017).
"Ironically, Russia may have been working against its energy interests in helping to resolve the Iran nuclear agreement."
That obviously debases the idea of the writer being insightful.
The Iranians are NOT, in a MILLION years, ever going to put one past Vladimir Putin. Truly he is as wily as a fox. A talented and brilliant tactician, Russia has not had such a leader in a long, long time. He isn't perfect, far from it, but he is a man that I think is for his time.
What a load of steaming dogshit this "analysis" is!
Obama isn't the puppeteer - he's the sock-puppet, and Putin's hand is so far up Obama's ass that Obama can feel Putin's deceptive hand-signals in back of his eyeballs.
#1 - Putin will never trust Obama or any other U.S. leader as far as he can throw an elephant - so no "grand bargain" will ever be entered into between the U.S. and Russia.
#2 - Putin now pretty much has Obama and the U.S. just where he wants them.
#3 - Putin has also got the Saudis right where he wants them - crawling on their hands and knees pleading for Russia to control Iran so they don't have to go to war with Iran, and also burning their bridges with the U.S. to enter the new Eurasian system of things that Russia-China are building.
Obama doesn't have the brains of a piss-ant.
If Obama's puppeteers told him driving down oil prices would cripple Russia, then they wanted to drive the Saudi's into Putin's arms and help collapse the petro dollar. Remember how Soros made his first billion? Shorting the British Pound.
King Salman was Crown Prince until January 2015.
Wouldn't it have been clever on the author's part to recount what foreign policy Salman believed in for the 10 years he was Crown Prince?
Just sayin'
The premise of this article is fundamentally flawed. Obama has no Middle East Foreign Policy. He is just playing jazz and making it up as he goes from fuck up to fuck up with Lurch doing the mop up.
Putin is taking the sage wisdom: keep your friends close, but your enemies closer. Look, Russia has suffered much worse than the US in the Radical Islamic Jihad. You want to talk terror? How about Radical Islamic Assholes taking 700+ kids hostage in school and killing more than 300 hostages including a couple of hundred kids? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_siege
Obama is afraid to call a spade a spade and even utter the words "Radical Islam".
Putin is fighting this shit everyday though he does it much more subtly than the US bombing to win hearts and minds. Putin cleaned up Chechnya rightly using STATESMANSHIP and NEGOTIATION and SOFT POWER.
This article has a few good tidbits here and there in it (the link to terror in Russia is worth reading for all) but the premise? The premise is a piss and shit cocktail.
SOFT POWER against the Chechens??? Have you forgotten the Dresden-like obliteration of Grozny? The policy was flawed, pushing Chechen nationalists into the arms of the jihadist. Chechens are now the backbone of the Islamist resistance.
Part of the trouble here is that people are not thinking far enough back in US/Saudi history. When ARAMCO Oil was just getting well underway "superior" American "advisors" stepped, largely uninvited, into a closed country and stepped on alot of toes. The Saudi's have long memories in a way not understood in the West. Sure, they use the US for military defense but for quite a number of years now they have not officially sanctioned general US military presence in country while allowing a few specialists to exist there very quietly and under great restraint. Even the military base in Riyadh is strictly divided. The US/Israeli connection is deeply resented and always has been. This sweet smelling sickly crap about being being old and strong allies is a post 9-11 fantasy. The Saudi's, for onr thing, need agricultural connections without so many chemical and GMO strings attached. Their own population is mushrooming and more mundane considerations and connections become important. The US is going to catch a bad cold on this one.
Maybe Russia will allow a Saudi pipeline trough Syria since opening up Iran is also against Russia's energy export interests? This could be the key in solving Saudi's problem which sustains the war in Syria. Putin's Syrian harbor would be save if the Saudis could get access to the European markets via a Syrian pipeline. This would also temper tensions in Europe regarding Russia being their main energy supplier.
With the China energy deals Putin made, Europe is less of an issue. And besides, often a difficult customer also with whole Ukraine situation.
Only question remaining, what to do with ISIS?
"what to do with ISIS?"
Send them to their BF in the ME - Israel. They are like two peas in a pod.
The author was unable to answer his own question about why SA visited Putin... most likely because his lips are obviously stuck to Obama's rear end.
Shame on oilprice.com for publishing such trash
Probably Saudis are upset with Satan America becuz Obama forced the earlier saudi king to drastically lower the oil prices (to boost american economy), Saudis consented but the king *died* from the (oil) shock. The new governing setup is still , it appears upset (they should be becuz selling at half the price) , their own economy suffering only due to their close proximity to Satan America which is controlled by jewhadi cabal banksters whose interest is only their money (& of zion).
So the shift is natural for the saudis & slowly other gulf nations will start to move away becuz all USA does is to buy cheap oil and sell highly priced obsolete military hardware (even new is of no use becuz the arab sheikhs & amirs have no use nor knack for hi-tech).
Day by day America is proving itself as the unreliable(rather deceiving) & a selfish partner.