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John Kerry "Very Disturbed" By Iran Vow To Defy American Policies
Surprise! Just days after the 'deal' to bring world peace a little closer amid much crowing by the Obama administration (ahead of Congress' 60-day decision process), Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei on Saturday vowed to defy American policies in a speech punctuated by chants of "Death to America" and "Death to Israel". As Reuters reports, US Secretary of State John Kerry said the speech was "if it is the policy, it's very disturbing, it's very troubling," seemingly surprised at the rhetoric.
Ayatollah Khamenei told supporters on Saturday that U.S. policies in the region were "180 degrees" opposed to Iran's, at a speech in a Tehran mosque punctuated by chants of "Death to America" and "Death to Israel". "Even after this deal our policy toward the arrogant U.S. will not change," Khamenei said. As Reuters reports,
"I don't know how to interpret it at this point in time, except to take it at face value, that that's his policy," John Kerry said in the interview with Saudi-owned Al Arabiya television, parts of which the network quoted on Tuesday.
"But I do know that often comments are made publicly and things can evolve that are different. If it is the policy, it's very disturbing, it's very troubling," he added.
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Somewhere Bibi is doing the "told you so" dance...
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more neocon zionist horseshit.
well you definitely got the horse part right
John Kerry "Very Disturbed." Just stop the headline there.
Is this guy a cunt or he just plays one on TV?
Methinks the Iran guy was talking about our policies via the Middle East.
If Iran violates the terms of the nuc-u-lar agreement, well then we can impose the penalties.
If however, they merely are at odds with us destroying any stable non-US friendly government there, well for that I applaud.
Mr. Ed on a Saudi TV station does not tickle my credibility bone.
Rita Katz involved? How about the London Syrian Opposition guy?
pods
SHHH, the queen is dead, long live the Queen.
Shocking, just shocking.
I am thankful the conman in chief negotiated a sweetheart deal with Iran, because it makes certain that when Israel does go in there they are going to completely obliterate them, and since there population doubles every 15 years.. s
"I don't know how to interpret it at this point in time, except to take it at face value, that that's his policy," he said in the interview with Saudi-owned Al Arabiya television, parts of which the network quoted on Tuesday.
lol
~"John Kerry "Very Disturbed""~
Geesh Tyler, you could have stopped at that and I'd have been satisfied.
As long as Israel plays by its own set of rules, I would figure Fuck You Too, if I was Iran.
Iran can actually fight back.
Israel is willing to fight... to the last drop of American blood.
DG, what's your military prowess and expertise? You have ZERO credibility. You fucking scour the internet from your mom's basement. Iran's military is shit. Terrorist are one thing a military fighting force is another. Iran has a shitty fighting force. US could wipe it out in 24 hours. Let's not occupy this time. Fuck you DG and fuck Iran.
Israel is fighting its own wars. America was never asked to assist Israel with actual soldies.
They do not have to since they control American politics through the PAC's. Not only but also the upper levels of the Bush II administration were riddled with dual passport neocons (Israel/USA) that pushed the war agenda forward against long time enemy of Israel, Iraq. Iraq has been thrown into complete confusion and balkanised- never again, as a nation, to say a word against Israel. Naturally they want to do the same to Iran since Iran also opposes the project for a "greater Israel"-- all at the expense of the Syrians and Palestinians; cattle to be sacrificed for the Chosen Ones.
What a coincidence - I'm "very disturbed" by John Kerry and his bosses in Tel Aviv's policies. I don't suppose there's any way he's going to vow to defy them and defend the constitution of the U.S.? Nah... that's just crazy thinking.
Yeah, next thing you know he'll accuse Iran of whipping up chemical weapons and send ISIS/ISIL/ISHIT over to sic balls.
I can only imagine Putin's response to this......
#OMFG are you kidding me???!!!!!
Colin Powell with the ppt presentation while BeeBee colors in the last 10% of his bomb picture?
pods
Why the long face??
Sec. Kerry is very disturbed, in fact Farmer Jones says he won't even eat his oats.
if you feed Sec. Kerry peanut butter, it looks like he's talking.
yeah because bibi told the surpreme leader what to say. dipshit.
"A horse is a horse of cour of course..."
Why not just move to Iran? You'll love it there. Of course you will not be able to post unless you are a Muslim Jackass already in which case skip the junior leagues and join Isis. The guy with the beheading axe is waiting for you.
If I think this cartoonist is a neocon hack pushing neocon agitprop I should therefore move to Iran?
Why not go back over to Fox News - this is all clearly way over your pretty little head, Susan.
I think that most any one of us here could have negotiated a better deal with Iran, and had a couple of cases of Lowenbrau thrown in as well.
It must be swell to believe that all your troubles are from one source, those damned evil Joos. Look around a bit and find that nobody loves you and more than a few may well want you dead.
I prefer to keep my head on a swivel looking 360 degrees around me for potential threats. You may have a blind spot. But looking in only one direction is easier.
Zzzzzzzz
straw man much?
You're not that stupid, Oldwood. That sort of facile rhetorical legerdemain is beneath you, no?
Straw man huh? And your blind belligerence for Joos is not?
Call me stupid, but when the leader of Iran says "death to America", I tend to take him at his word....at least as much as him promising to dismantle centrifuges that were ALL built in secrecy for the purpose of refining fuel for a reactor that they were already being supplied fuel from Russia for...a reactor that the international community offered to fuel for free if they would abandon refinement. They have done nothing but lie about everything they have done and yet we should believe them in regard to this nuke shit and believe their threats made as a promise to their own people are lies or fabrications.
Do not tell me of STRAW MEN.
what blind belligerence... huh? I referred to this cartoon, which is sophomoric - at absolute best.
Iran has signed the NPT - as a sovereign nation, it has the right to build centrifuges.
Most of the recent deal is Iran giving up rights because Israel which has nukes, refuses inspections, and has cried wolf for 20+ years re Iranian nukes, despite assessments by CIA, DIA, Mossad, and others, that they are NOT working on a nuke.
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/02/brief-history-netanyahu-cr...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2015/04/13/why-u-s-in...
Meanwhile, Israel has elected officials that have called for the wholesale ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from th eland they haven't yet stolen - but that's okay, right, because they ain't muslims.
If you're going to be one of these assholes who cries "anti-semite" every time someone criticizes the Israeli/Zionist narrative, such as portrayed in this cartoon, then there's really no use having a discussion.
Israel's nukes are fine, its slow burn ethnic cleansing is fine, its war crimes are fine, its racists officials are fine, and criticism of Israel or Jewish/Zionist power is "hate" but assuming the worst, without evidence, about Israel's enemies is the height of intellectual clarity?
Examine your premises.
DG, you're a fuck stick dumbass cunt. Now, go fuck your liberal self. NPT means nothing, you dumb fuck! Iran just signed an agreement with the USA that they have no intentions of honoring. Arabs and Persian don't deal fairly with infidels. Fucking liberals are all retarded. Fuck! We need a revolution to cleanse these stupid fucks from the planet. Too many people here anyway.
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You're asking the impossible from Oldwood. On some issues he is well spoken and knowledgeable. When it comes to Iran, though, he desperately clings to the official narrative from Vichy DC. You can refute his arguments with sources which even include Israeli officials and the US intelligence community and he will ignore you. Here is an example:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-03/why-obama-missed-netanyahus-spe...
He will then go on to repeat the same discredited arguments in comments on subsequent articles. Examples from the comment above:
Wrong.
Wrong.
Wrong.
Wrong.
Oldwood will ignore the links below, as will Michael Ramirez (who appears to be a 21st century Philipp Rupprecht), but those who are interested in peeling away the bullshit may find them helpful.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MH16Ak03.html
http://www.juancole.com/2012/09/top-myths-about-irans-nuclear-enrichment...
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2013/05/2013589151459212.html
http://original.antiwar.com/Ted_Snider/2013/09/24/is-iran-just-fooling-us/
http://nationalinterest.org/print/commentary/eight-ways-youre-wrong-abou...
http://www.iranaffairs.com/iran_affairs/2007/12/irans-not-so-hi.html
Sweet Jesus.....really ?
" I'm shocked...SHOCKED....to find gambling going on in here ! "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMIyDf3gBoY
Exactly!
Typical uncle-pedro from ramirez.
He's what we call a total and utter cunt back in the UK. Which is full of cunt politicans and newspaper owners.
for all those, who somehow consider Iran "evil", I recommend to watch this hilarious short German satire, how it all began in the Middle East: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1NO5DwrQz4
How can these people be so stupid as to believe that you can negotiate in good faith with people who vow every day to destroy you?
Or fund an illegal coup to install a dictator,.. wait we are talking about the US?
+++++
'Operation Ajax', circa 1953...
The CIA's overthrow of Mossadegh was a template for the agency's covert operations going forward.
AP
The Central Intelligence Agency was behind the overthrow of Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh in 1953. It's been an open secret for decades, but last week, The George Washington University's National Security Archive released newly declassified documents proving it.
Orchestrating the Iranian coup d'état was a first for the CIA and would serve as the template for future Cold War covert operations worldwide.
Mossadegh "believed that Iran's main problem at that time was that it was a country basically ruled by foreign empires," Iranian filmmaker Maziar Bahari tells Weekends on All Things Considered host Jacki Lyden. So, after less than a week in office, on May 1, 1951, Mossadegh decided to nationalize the British-run Anglo-Iranian Oil Company.
"To the British, because they discovered the oil and created the Iranian oil industry from scratch, it was a fair deal that they shared the oil revenue with the Iranian government," says Bahari. "But, to many Iranians, especially those who did not remember that there was no oil in Iran before the British came, it was just unfair for a British company to have a monopoly over Iranian oil."
However, the British would not leave quietly. According to Bahari, "Mossadegh had to go in order for the British to keep their monopoly," and they began pursuing measures to topple the Iranian prime minister. Their plan succeeded, but only after two long years of spy craft, subversion and the eventual help of the CIA.
"I think a lesser man would fall within a week. Mossadegh was a very strong politician and a very strong man," Bahari said.
Young CIA agents used suitcases full of cash to destabilize the regime. "They managed to buy newspaper editors, to buy hoodlums, they organized rallies in different cities, they created a fake communist party in order to create trouble," Bahari said. Still, they almost failed.
http://www.npr.org/2013/09/01/217976304/declassified-documents-reveal-ci...
The Pure Evil Criminal young CIA Psychopaths used suitcases full of cash. Same tactic, different Soverign Countries around the World by these Pure Evil Criminal Psychopaths. JFK's dream of smashing these vermin into a thousand pieces must come to fruition.
CIA facilitated a military coup in Syria a few years before that. One could argue that was the origin of the "template", and as per usual, it was done for a Saudi oil pipeline.
Baby Israel was heavily involved in it too - aww isn't that cute, a coo-ing infant!
Is there anything new about this? I mean besides the fact that instead of just sending in conquering armies to impose our rule, we do it with "intelligence"? America, nor any other country or leader invented evil....not even the Joos. We just keep refining it to disguise its origins and ultimate motivations. Ultimately we all want to know it is who is actually gunning for us but in the end we may never know. The main thing is to remain vigilant and watch for the gun in the face. Anyone intent on doing harm is my enemy and I really don't care why, because what we are faced with is the result of years of shit that I have little or no control over. Our identity has been stolen or possessed by our government, in our financial interests as well as our relations with each other, domestically and internationally. We may as well be dogs put into a ring to fight for our lives, not knowing why or to what end other than to realize our choice is to fight or die. To sit in the corner and ponder our circumstances is too little too late and only increases our risk of demise.
You are saying that the U.S. government is negotiating in good faith?
no he's talking about the Zionist Entity...
Kerry et al didn't seem to be negotiating at all. They just through things to them as they had to. Remember Obama saying Iran is peaceful one minute, then claiming we had to avoid war with these peace loving Twelve Imam kooks. Which is it Mr Peace Prize?
FORWARD SOVIET!
The people vowing to destroy Iran are USA/Israel
So how would you react if you were threatened by ZioNazis everyday.
Maybe I would start by not chanting "death to America" and "death to Israel" every other breath. And it also wouldn't hurt relationships if your religious doctrine didn't declare that those who don't conform should be killed. Maybe start with that and we can enjoy a pleasant chat over a Starbucks sometime.
American politicians and citizens would never do such a thing because we're the good guys!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2v8cuQTVO8
Billy, I don't take responsibility for my government since my interests are no longer represented by those in DC since we no longer live in a Constitutional republic. I cannot control what this cluster-fuck of a government does any more, but hopefully that will change when enough like-minded people push back against the growing tyranny. I, like most Americans, simply want to be left alone....by my government and by the malcontents in other parts of the world and, in turn, I'm more than happy to leave them to their own devices.
Well stated. Just remember that Muslims are targeted by media and government for the same reason they target rednecks (I use that term affectionately). Both are strong willed people with conservative values which threaten the NWO. The playbook developed for vilifying Muslims is now being used against the south with the Confederate flag in place of the Koran.
I see nothing "conservative" about the "convert, pay, or die" doctrine that is written word-for-word in the Moslim holy book. It's a false and toxic religion.
You live in a country that celebrates men who wear dresses, where Christians are forced to bake gay wedding cakes and where high school students must shower with transgenders. None of that exists in Muslim countries because they have protected the conservative values of the majority of their citizens.
But if you prefer Caitlyn, then by all means, chose a frock and carry on.
Mr Bill, you know that puddle you are smoking next to is gasoline, Right?
There is relativity. But of course the conservative bastion of Iran has no gay problem as they don't have gays. They are blessed that way. Ultimately we are all left to our own devices when it comes to survival. I have no animosity towards anyone as long as they don't fuck with me. I think most of us can agree that our interventionism in ME has been a grand disaster and I see no easy way out. We can simply walk away and leave our allies to whatever fate that awaits them or we stay in, believing we can fix what we have fucked up and torment it all further. After all, that has been our doctrine in the world as well as home...Chaos.
I must say though that for all the Joo haters, their credibility is damaged by their instant defense of anything Iran or any other Muslim does. EVERYONE thinks they have good reason to do and think what they do, but there is no excuse for what ANY of these ASSHOLES are doing. It is maddening to constantly see this denial or diversion or delusion that everything is a false flag or Zionist plot. Give Muslims and the rest of the world at least a little credit here. Joos are not the master race. There ARE other smart people in the world that can more than pursue their own interests. The thing we must face is that virtually none of them share OUR interests, including our own government.
People see what they want to see. I try to look at the facts objectively (yes, that's an Ayn Rand plug and she was Jewish). If you read through the rest of the comments on this thread you'll see that I have debunked several fabricated anti-Zionist quotes by Franklin and JFK to the satisfaction of anyone who can likewise objectively views the facts.
But there remain dozens of instances where the facts undeniably show that Israel is not now and has never been an ally of the United States. Take a look at the following document concerning the USS Liberty investigation written by one of the original investigators. He states that it was known to the team that Israel deliberately attacked the Liberty but the report was replaced with another exonerating Israel by the Johnson Administration. I'll leave it at that for now but for those who digest the following there is much more evidence which shows Israel's real intentions and actions toward America and Americans.
The Declaration of Ward Boston, Capt, JAGC, USN (Ret.)
http://www.ussliberty.org/bostondeclaration.pdf
Most likely just made for media crap designed to make us hate Persians ... nice try, strike 2.
Hows I need to continue my education, sounds expensive now don't it.
They should have allowed Israel to use those 'bunker busters.' The first thing that the Iranian regime did after the coup against Shah Monarchy was to attack USA embassy in Tehran and then the Jewish Community Center in Argentina.
After Kuwait, the US and Arab coalition in 1991 should have turned NE and liberated Iran and stop the Islamic cancer like Saddam Hussein wanted to do.
Perhaps you should have lived & suffered under Pahlavi's brutality.
Placed there by whom?
Please - there's no evidence Iran, or was it Hezbollah for Iran, blew up that Jewish center - it is at least equally likely to have been done by Israel itself precisely in order to blame Iran, or Hezbollah, or any other group Israel wished to malign that week.
"That Israel was willing to derail any serious the investigation into the 1994 bombing, which killed and maimed scores of Argentine Jews, in order to further its campaign against Iran, demonstrates the extent to which the self-styled ‘Jewish State’ is willing to sacrifice the interests and security of world Jewry to further its narrow military agenda.
Equally egregious is the way in which Tel Aviv recruits overseas Jews to serve Israel’s interests against that of their own countries, turning them into a ‘fifth column’, operating inside and outside of their governments. That Israeli intelligence has been exposed and denounced in the case of Nisman, has not forestalled nor prevented Israel from continuing this long-standing, practice of dangerous meddling. This is especially evident in the ‘Israel-first behavior’ of leading Jewish American organizations and political leaders who have pledged their total allegiance to Netanyahu’s war agenda against Iran an bought the US Congress to scuttle the peace accord.
It merits repetition: Israel’s widespread practice of recruiting Jewish citizens and officials of other countries to serve as vehicles of Israeli policies has the potential to foment a new and possibly violent backlash, once the greater population has been made aware of such treasonous activities. In this regard, Israel does not represent a bastion of security for world Jewry, but a cynical, manipulative and deadly threat. Perhaps that is Israel’s ultimate strategy – create a backlash of generalized anger against overseas Jews and precipitate massive flight to Israel from countries like Argentina, while the few who remain can be better manipulated to serve Tel Aviv."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/argentina-a-case-study-of-israels-zionist-w...
The embassy was stuffed full of the worst of the worst SAVAK agents hiding.
The only reason the entire staff didn't come back in body bags was because of the Mullahs.
They stopped it, not caused it.
Don't believe anything Uncle Scam says.
You're referring to Republicans right?
demotards and republitards are flip sides of the same coin, both owned by the same money.
watch what they do not what they say
as they divide and conquer the cattle
How can these people be so stupid as to believe that you can negotiate in good faith with people who vow every day to destroy you?
I agree! What the hell is Iran thinking???
I think we ottah geld him and strap a saddle on his back and make him work in a petting zoo at a fat kid camp.
Yeah. I agree with you. I've never been able to understand why they don't just kill people like this Ali Khameini, whatever. Don't we have any spare drones ? Death to America ? Oh really? Here, eat this. I mean why go through all the BS ? why not just kill him ?
Why not kill warmongering swine like McCain and Obomber and other vermin?
Iran hasn't attacked or invaded anyone in 250 yaers.
Its you sons of bitches that have killed over 10 million innocent people around the globe since 1960.
Hopefull a stray rounds takes your Nazi head off .
I was going to suggest that you may have gotten up on the wrong side, until I realized you must be preparing for bed. You must be very tired, to have forgotten that some of those killings committed by the USA were at a place called Bastogne, thereby saving your sorry ass. Obviously, a mistake.
The opposition always assumes that anything you might do that would be considered a positive is for nefarious purpose and not to be trusted or tallied in the plus column.
It all becomes a bit tiring after a while. Being open to considering all factors, good and bad, is just too damned much work. Having only one villain in your life keeps it simple...just like sheep like it. Lets not complicate things with facts that conflict with our dogma. Like Wesley says, if they don't agree just put them in a camp, maybe a nice reeducation center.
Because when Americans threaten to bomb Iran it's a good moral thing to do. After all, we overthrew their government for their freedom and we have the ability to wipe them off the face of the Earth whenever Tel Aviv gives the order. Whereas when Iranians threaten America it's frighting and just plain evil despite the fact that they really have no capacity to harm America.
However, the US and Israeli government would have you believe that America and Israel have already been destroyed multiple times both by the Iranian nukes which have been an imminent threat since 1992 as well as Saddam Hussein's nuclear missile stock pile. So it's a moot point.
No, no, really its cool that everyone has nukes because everyone is equal. Isn't that what Obama tells us.
Its makes you wonder what all this "gun rights" thing is about. Surely no one thinks that someone would actually harm us. That's just paranoid.
If they say they want me dead, I don't care if they think they have a good reason...I don't want them to have nukes. I'm just small and insecure that way. I don't have enough duct tape to protect myself from radiation poisoning.
Iran has supposedly been in "imminent" possession of nukes ensuring the destruction of the US and Israel a half dozen times since the early nineties. Are you familiar with the story of Henny Penny? How many decades of Israel not being wiped off the map does it take for you to realize that those who have been screaming that "the sky is falling," for twenty five years have been playing you? Iran no more has a WMD program than did Iraq. And look at how expensive that easily foreseeable error has been and continues to be. Not to mention the millions of dead, disabled and displaced Iraqis. They're God's children too.
Also note that all 16 US intelligence agencies and the Pentagon agree with "high confidence" that Iran has no nuke program, no plans to initiate one, that we have adequate resources to know if they did try to initiate such a program and the the Iranians are "rational actors" not suicidal maniacs.
You forgot the /sarc tag, right? Please tell me you're not for real.
With President Zippy and Ketchup Boy running foreign policy what could possibly go wrong?
Hilary Clinton; that's what could go wrong. You ain't seen nothin yet.
Maybe someone should have told him he was negotiating a pre-nup - he's probably got a better feel for that than whatever this deal was supposed to be. <insert long face joke here>
ZH has been hijacked.
No it shows us how stupid this deal is.....muslims will lie to infidels....they will keep on doing what they have been doing forever...they could care little about us...They have their long term plans and will keep going for them...wea re stupid to try to deal with them....they are evil...and we should treat them that way...the Pansy Obama thinks we can all be friends....we cant...
. . . muslims will lie to infidels
Reminds me of another people.
Yep, Hymie to be exact.
Kikes are the biggest liars on the planet and in history.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXxEilzNJcE
Catholics.
The Catholic Church died with John Paul II. Now it's a zombie like all other Western institutions.
People need to listen to War more often.
Plus one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMVTOxELjfU
Maybe more like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn91L9goKfQ
Another war fought for truth, justice and the Merikan way...... and lost 54,000.
For the Empire, Of the Empire and By the Empire.
Just as insanity breeds insanity, it's inherited until YOU learn from the mistakes, some people like my mother never learn. And many others don't care.
When I was a kid in college, I really thought I was smart, and my parents, who had survived the depression and WWII were the dumbest fools on the planet. They were biased about all types of things that my professors said were just the result of poor education and small mindedness, even though my parents had gone through a school of serious hard knocks...far more extreme than anything that I have ever experienced. Only after their death and after repeated bruising by reality have I seen the wisdom they tried vainly to pass to me. I was smart...and educated. They were not.
I am amazed at how many smart and educated people post here. Its a brain trust I tell ya.
Same could be said for the____.
Khamenei is insane, what does Kerry expect him to say, he likes the United States? He'll speak positively for the US when he takes off his hat.
Saudi King =Insane. The guy your president kisses the ring of.
Saudi King =Insane. The guy your president kisses the ring of.
Saudi King =Insane. The guy your president kisses the ring of.
Saudi King =Insane. The guy your president kisses the ring of.
Putie likes him though.
30 Iranians chanting death to America - a country that toppled their democracy, stole their oil, and gave chemical weapons to their enemy to use on their troops = news and proof how horrible eeevil Moooslims are,
but...
Jews repeatedly attacking Christian churches in both Israel and the OPT: not news worthy, and certainly not reflective on all Israelis, denizens of a colonialist, racialist recipient of tens of billions in US aid, a relentless spy and meddler in US politics, murderer of Americans in the USS Liberty Incident, 9/11 and more...
http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2015/06/jewish-settlers-burn-destroy-c...
Israel's increasingly fundamentalist/supremacist population controlling hundreds of nukes and icbms and subs: Why, there's not a THING to worry about.
Go back to sleep.
u must be anti-semetic (i mean sociopath)...
now i will go back to sleep....
Anti-semitic is righteous. supporting ZioNazis is EVIL
too bad you're a fucking idiot
Naw he ain't an idiot
He's a former flight engineer.
(something to think about when the stewardess announces something about a snackbar.)
you're kidding me quoting a paelstinian propaanda site to push your lies? please nigga.
you're saying that jews burning churches is a "lie"?
didn't they teach you not to make an absurd claim easily disproven with 30 seconds or less on an internet search engine?
You stupid, vapid twat - there's no question about it.
At issue is why these incidents are virtually never in the US MSM.
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2014/may-web-only/price-tag-israeli-...
http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Catholic-Church-demands-action-on-pri...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/arsonists-attack-church-in-israel-j...
How many of these "Christian" churches are supporting Palestinians? There is a war going on there. Has been for decades. Will we ever allow it to end? Will we ever allow the battle to conclude with a victor, or simply keep the fires burning forever or until we get the result we desire? If there is any underlying theme here, it is that "they" want the whole world on fire. Everyone, every religion, culture, nation, race, sex or if you are tattooed or not, to be at each other's throat. Israel/Palestinian is but one clash of many, and every policy we seem to pursue only makes it worse. We have been funding both Israel and Palestinians for decades...to what end other than keep the flames alive, cause more strife, hatred and radicalization every fucking day.
Delicate Genius, you're tip-toeing too close to the truth. I wouldn't answer the door if I were you. And don't do any projects requiring a nail gun.
muslims have been such a historically peaceful people...even to each other.
Indonesia and Malaysia are pretty peaceful...
Israel hasnt managed to go a week without killing some non-Jew but it's *always defensive* of course...
And the middle east wasn't a shit show before the Brits, French, and Jews took it from the Ottomans carved it up, and, of course, the US/UK did all they could to foment Sunni/Shia violence in Iraq - Brits SAS even being caught with explosives while dressed as Arabs...
But still - I bet you think you made a great point, don't you, Molly?
In case you haven't noticed (or looked in the mirror) the whole world is becoming radicalized. There are no good guys, so quit wasting your time defending people who could care less if you live or die. We already have that problem with our own government.
re John Kerry "Very Disturbed"
Yes - we know.
"Sire, Sire, the people are revolting!"
King drops his head, "Yes, I know."
If it is the policy, it's very disturbing, it's very troubling
Did Kerry expect Iran to fall in love with America after all the talk of nuking it, using Stuxnet to disable its facilities, assassinating its nuclear scientists and US supplying chemical weapons and intelligence to Saddam who managed to kill 600,000 Iranians during the Iraq-Iran war?
Even a horse has more sense
Iran seemed to have that same attitude toward anyone outside their Islamic faith for centuries. Nothing new.
actually they were quite friendly with one adolf hitler, just like how china was friendly with same dude. then the brits and russians invaded, and the rest is history.
Actually the Zionists worked with Hitler to send Jews to Palestine and exterminate those who refused to go. That's based on original German sources provided by True Torah Jews.
"Zionism was supported by the German SS and Gestapo.[3] [4] [5] [6] Hitler himself personally supported Zionism.[7] [8] During the 1930's, in cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a network of some 40 camps throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine. As late as 1942 Zionists operated at least one of these officially authorized "Kibbutz" training camps[9] over which flew the blue and white banner which would one day be adopted as the national flag of "Israel".[10]
The Transfer Agreement (which promoted the emigration of German Jews to Palestine) implemented in 1933 and abandoned at the beginning of WWII is an important example of the cooperation between Hitler's Germany and international Zionism. [11] Through this agreement, Hitler's Third Reich did more than any other government during the 1930's to support Jewish development in Palestine and further the Zionist goals. Hitler and the Zionists had a common goal:Â to create a world Jewish Ghetto as a solution to the Jewish Question."
http://www.truetorahjews.org/antisemitism
Hitler and others (Ben Franklin etc) knew that Jews are leeches and if put together in one place would devour each other.
Without a host to leech off of, Jews are dead meat.
True dat.
The Iranians are still mad at Kermit Roosevelt/SOE combined op to overthrow Mussadegh after he nationalized BP.
As Ronnie said, "Trust but Verify."
For what, 40 years, the Shah's job was to keep the peace East of Suez.
I think the vitriol is moar for their own internal consumption.
Their threats have as much credibility as anything else they have said...or committed to.
Obama chants the same thing when Reggie mounts him and he gets excited, so its OK.
As for the stupid sons of bitches who down voted my comment, are you attempting to say Obama does not take it up the ass and dig it or are you just upset it should be made public? Clearly that fucker hates Americans , he has destroyed all that was good about the USA and put the final nail in the coffin.
No shit. I upvoted you.
It's fuckin' obvious he is light in the loafers.
Yes, if there is one thing Americans cannot stand is an enemy (they made) as equally armed as them.
Only an idiot looks for a fair fight. Of course if Marshal Dillon worked for Obama, he would serve with his good hand tied behind his back....just trying to make it fair.
Earth is a liar's paradise.
http://albainternazionale.blogspot.it/2015/07/attacco-terroristico-in-tu...
Read this article ... Turkey Bomb
A. To have a global government ALL countries and people must be brought into the fold. This includes Iran, Cuba, North Korea and Syria.
B. It can be done via war or subversion.
"... There will be no survivors" (to quote Andre the Giant, may he rest in peace)
My personal belief is that they would prefer to have a war rather than peaceful assimilation. "Resistance if futile"? And yet, the Borg did not win.
Because of little Hitler, Netanyahu and the bastards in US Congress. Iran stated they had the right to drop the deal if they wanted to.
Iran made a big mistake with this deal. Pull out now and only do business with BRICS nations.
Its Americans warmongering rhetoric that caused this.
The Moullah's hate everbody.
They don't want their peace process to work? Sounds like their problem to me.
Same goes for Cuba.
"Bite the hand that is reaching out, find out what the other hand is doing."
Might want to think twice before doing business over there apparently.
"The Moullahs gonna want their cut."
You are a fucking idiot and deserve to be disabled.
I just lost my patience with me and now the rest of the day going to suck, should i go on and predict the (or your) future?
Dutchboy.....way over the line.
Joris blew the top of his head off.
I doubt you are trying to debate in an effort to convince others of your wisdom and much more interested in screaming "idiot" at everyone who disagrees.
You should consider participating on an ISIS site as they would likely have greater appreciation for your tact. If it proves not enough, ISIS might make room for you on their beheading line so you might work our some of your aggressions.
The Mollahs hate everybody...
Not so fast. The biggest Western delegation sitting in Tehran, since this deal and as we talk here, is the German delegation.
Why? USA, France and Uk have been FISHING bigtime in Qatar and in Saud, looking for MIC contracts etc. Not so much Germany.
Now Germany can reap bigtime as its seen as less pro Saud than the other big three in MIC/industry deals.
So in politics, nations have interests first and foremost and friends only when there is deep commonality.
In the Middle East cauldron Commonality is a word that has to be used with caution.
But Peace is a deep aspiration in Iran given the 60 year mayhem since Mossadegh's ouster.
And therefore their demand of "death to America"...in the name of Peace.
But you are right about money. Most leaders will NEVER suffer the consequences of their choices as that is the role of their people...to live it. All of this chaos and strife is about money for most except for a few TRUE BELIEVERS who are the most dangerous of all. These people cannot be bought and if there ever was one who couldn't it would be the ruling Mullahs. I would listen much more, give far more weight to what they say than any of the elected leaders. Politicians sold their soul to the devil to obtain power. Religious leaders think their soul is already in heaven and untouchable....and they do as they will in the name of Allah or God or whoever they want.
Kerry learned more about diplomacy in Heinz's factory than he did in the Nam factory.
Ketchup's economics teaches your as much as body count economics if you want to stay TOP of the HEAP.
If it had beeen the opposite; aka if he had stayed ethical man; he would have understood the deep seated hatred of Iranians for the criminal scams the US have committed since 1953 in Iran; as further along in the whole region from Pak/Afghan to Libya; as follow on to the British and their Great Game mayhem.
Kerry's Nam experience should have taught him that Pax Americana has not changed one iota since then. They still think "to the victors the spoils", as long as they keep killing 300/1 ratio of locals to every american soldier, as since the Injun Wars.
In the final analysis that is the ratio that governs US foreign policy and the return on investment in the MIC game has to be positive; aka it has to bring in more rent in terms of Arms sales and Oil deals than it costs the US economy in terms of taxes. But this last argument is not considered vital as long as the Greenback stays the Reserve. As nobody can treat the US like Argentina as long as the body count stays 300/1 and the Greenback stays the Reserve; aka the FED is printing "our money and your problem".
That is the bottom line for Pax Americana's sustainablility : 300/1 body count and Reserve status!
This is reality and poured in concrete in DC. As seen by the US Oligarchy NOW FIRMLY IN CONTROL OF THE COUNTRY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE POLITICAL AISLE.
Not as seen by the people, the 99%.
Amen.
Very well stated. BINGO
I don't think he's happy about it either.
+1000. Very cogent.
"Deep seated hatred of Iranians"
Exactly which Iranians? The thousands who have moved to America to escape their beloved Mullahs and persecutors? The thousands who protested and those murdered in the streets of Tehran while Begging Obama to step in and remedy their situation? The Millions of Iranians who love western life and seek to replicate in their home country whenever they can?
There are OTHER perspectives. Iranians have issues with their government just like we do and THEY actually protest and die for their beliefs as that is typically the cost for speaking out. I find it so absolutely amazing that so many fools will completely ignore the plight of these people while justifying the horror that their own government is willing to bring down upon them because of past injustices and religious extremism. America is definitely fucked up, but at least we can still bitch about it for a while longer. You want to emulate those societies that represent everything we all claim to despise.
The love of tyranny for the sake of the trains running on time, right? Or is it as simple as the grass always being greener elsewhere?
USA/Europe is pissed off because Iran is giving order for 20 airliners to Russia.
NuttyYahoo's threats and his cocksucking republican puppets in USA talked about miltary options on Iran AFTER the peace deal.
Iran should walk away from this deal NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I told you last week that the USA is NEVER to be trusted.
They would destroy Iran like they did Libya.
A little over the deep end are ya? Because of the sanctions, which will soon be lifted, we couldn't sell planes to Iran, so that wouldn't be a factor as it wasn't considered a lost sale. Iran would do its business with Russia or China anyway.
Iran did well under sanctions. They should drop the deal . Just go with the BRICS.
HEY WAITER, can we get a time check over here???
Russian airliners? LOL I'm glad they're willing to spend money on those crappy jets. Serves them right.
So, can somebody tell John Kerry that dinner in Tehran is cancelled this Saturday? I guess the bottle of Merlot wasn't a good pick for the evening. Apparently these "annoying Shiite people" are taking their death threats seriously.
American govt and many of its citizens are nothing more than bullying slimeballs. They want everyone to kiss their fat asses and will steal your lunch money in a heartbeat.
Wake up Iran!
A leopard doesn't change it spots.
USA will ALWAYS be a bullying warmongering nation (until it collapses) like what happens to all bullies.
It's all crystal clear to me now, a bit foggy for you though, huh cousin.
American govt and many of its citizens are nothing more than bullying slimeballs. They want everyone to kiss their fat asses and will steal your lunch money in a heartbeat.
Wake up Iran!
A leopard doesn't change it spots.
USA will ALWAYS be a bullying warmongering nation (until it collapses) like what happens to all bullies.
Every government is a bully.
Not all, America is the worst bully on the planet. a True fascist police state but most Americans are too stupid to realize it.
And your sheer genius is evident in your insightful analysis and persuasive essays. /Sarc
Hey dutchie: You have a big mouth with very little to say other than repititious insults. Americans are plenty aware that we have faults and challenges (to say the least). You, however, think you have all the answers. You don't.