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Ottawans Outed - 1 In 5 Found To Be "Cheating Dirtbags Who Deserve No Discretion"
Canada's capital city, Ottawa, is, as MSN reports, also it's most potentially adulterous. Around 1 in 5 of the population is registered on Ashley Madison - the recently hacked social network for married people looking for an affair. The hotbed of infidelity was also the seat of power: The top postal code for new members matched that of Parliament Hill, according to Avid Live chief executive Noel Biderman in a newspaper report published earlier this year.
Canada's prim capital is suddenly focused more on the state of people's affairs than the affairs of the state.
One in five Ottawa residents allegedly subscribed to adulterers' website Ashley Madison, making one of the world's coldest capitals among the hottest for extra-marital hookups - and the most vulnerable to a breach of privacy after hackers targeted the site.
The hackers, who referred to customers as "cheating dirtbags who deserve no discretion," appear uninterested in blackmailing individual clients, unlike an organized crime outfit.
The website's Canadian parent, Avid Life Media, said it had since secured the site and was working with law enforcement agencies to trace those behind the attack.
"Everybody says Ottawa is a sleepy town and here we are with 200,000 people running around on each other," said municipal employee Jon Weaks, 27, as he took a break at an outdoor cafe near the nation's Parliament.
"I think a lot of people will be questioned tonight at dinner," added colleague Ali Cross, 28.
Some 189,810 Ashley Madison users were registered in Ottawa, a city with a population of about 883,000, making the capital No. 1 for philanderers in Canada and potentially the highest globally per capita, according to previously published figures from the Toronto-based company.
However, Canada may have bigger problems...
The hotbed of infidelity was also the seat of power: The top postal code for new members matched that of Parliament Hill, according to Avid Live chief executive Noel Biderman in a newspaper report published earlier this year.
Biderman said capital cities around the world typically top subscription rates, a phenomenon he chalks up to "power, fame and opportunity," along with the risk-taking personalities that find themselves in political cities.
The Ottawa mayor's office and city council either declined to comment or did not return emails.
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You nasty, Canada.
what's news about politicians screwing the populace?
They don't need to sign up to a dodgy website to do that. It is part of the job description.
Geez!!! If you are an Ashley Madison client, living in Ottawa, and you drive a Jeep, you are having a suicidal kind of week!!!
No surprise that it's in teh capital here... filled with rockstar judges and politicians, six-figure salaries.
Are they counting the "free accounts" as part of the 30,000,000 number? In the tech world you really need to look at regular visitors because most likely that 30,000,000 million unless I am making a wrong assumption is a bulked up number. Its more likely less than 10% of that that are actual users that are committing adultery. The other 90% probably just wanted to see what the site was all about out of curiosity.
I really would like to know the split between women and men.
Way more gay men pretending to be women and spammers pretending to be women on these sites than there are real women.
Looks like a hacker is about to drop a "dirty bomb".
Shit, if 1 in 5 are members and 99 out of 100 are men that makes 2 out of every 5 Ottawa Man a member. God Damn, if you're a man in Ottawa you have some explaining to do.
Politician: a job where you get paid very well, can hire your girlfriend as your secretary and pay her very well, can hire your children as assistants and pay them very well, get a huge expense account, you can’t be fired, have no liability, no overhead, no accountability, get lots of time off, have lots of folks wanting to do favors for you and be your friend and give you presents and take you on vacations all over the world.
Now if that doesn’t give you a hard-on, nothing will.
So of course the best place to locate a brothel is in a capital city.
Tell your bitch, "at least you didn't find me on Catlin.com".
Does not shock me. Well known fact in The Mall that the Trudeau Liberal party had some notorious sex parties and habits. The rumors of drugs, harassment and scandal were so bad they went public in 2012/13 with a formal harassment code + spin cycle. NDP has quite a few hard partying munchkins who associate with people that a US Libertarian would consider on the grey side of the law.
What is not said is the Ottawa Citizen and the Ottawa Sun ran huge articles for a few weeks on the AM site about 18 months ago. Everybody in Ottawa was captured by the news stories...talk shows, news even TV were jamming the site. I figure it was the best earned media ever....but I think everyone will be dispointed with the results of the scanadal
I would expect they will find that 175,000 of those users signed in as guests just to see what all the press was about. Guests have no rights so my bet is the actual dirt will be pretty slim in Bytown. Ottawans are cheap civil servants so they will not put down a credit card to get laid......should be fun when it comes out to see how weak the business model actually is....
Where is that popcorn?
The split between men and women is 70/30 according to a GQ article a few years ago. http://www.gq.com/story/ashley-madison-affair-cheating-site
They won't have anywhere near that many real users. All of these "dating sites" and adultery sites hire call centers (usually in the Philippines or India) to create fake profiles and lure horny men in.
Even if most accounts are fake, it seems like the highest demand for such accounts is in Ottawa.
I lived and worked in Ottawa for 6 years, early on in my IT career, and I fucking hated the place. It is probably the most heavily mind-controlled and borg-like place in all of Canada (lots of govt workers, politicians, lawyers, political hacks and cops - exactly the kind of people who cheat everyone and everything).
I remember renting an apartment from a guy who worked for the prime minister's office (this was when 'let them eat pepper [spray]' Jean Chretien was in office). This landlord was such a total douche bag that it was actually beyond all reason: he antagonized his tenants so much that some really went overboard trying to get back at him.
I protected myself (he quickly learned not to bother me), and then just enjoyed watching all the misery he lived through, largely as a direct result of being such a rotten dick with people. Karma, bitchez!
a lot of "pros" use the site to conduct business... so wherever there is money and corruption you're sure to find plenty of talent.
Too many cooks in the kitchen. Too many greedy hands in the pot. Too many parasites feeding. House cleaning is getting done everywhere inch by inch. If they don't like it. Here's the 411 on the situation. No one cares. They asked for it and this is going to happen whether they like it or not. Going to see who has merit enough to survive a nice thick layer of tar and feathers and more than likely a couple million people serving lengthly prison sentences. What they are getting pissed at is they didn't expect it, even though the motto is 'Expect us'. They are the dumbest fuckmothers in the universe, point blank.
Or could just go with the rediculious plan B. We play a game of dumping trash out the pod bay doors into the sun, asteroids and missle command. I think most people would appreciate option A since most of this crap hasn't got anything to do with them, and from asking around I'm pretty sure everyone's got other goals in life they would like to accomplish other than plan B.
Ashley Madison = I say, Mad it's in
Who the hell does anything with those popups other than close them?
pods
some of us block them so we never have to do anything.
Hey, It gets wicked cold up there. eh.
And cabin fever can drive ya to drink excessively
So far better to be sociable like they are..
A well known Canadian Journalist named Alan Fotheringham characterized Ottawa as 'the town that fun forgot' and ever since everyone in Ottawa has been compensating psychologically through whatever antics we can dream up. You are correct on the psychological hydraulics of winter. Ottawa is the coldest SOB city in CANADA aside from Edmonton & Winnipeg. It's gets so bad in winter that things break when you turn your GM on in the morning. And GM was built for this level of brutality from temperature, but stuff still breaks in the morning when there is subzero temp. Windshield wipers getting stuck to the windshield is normal. Fan belts busting is normal. Power steering takes a while to unfreeze sometimes, it's a bitch.
And that's in the summer buh dum pah.
let's remember to focus on the real story here.
hackers.
hugs,
the messengers not the message
Governemnt data dumps.
Honey, you left the pot on the stove!
Never, ever leave your pot on the stove!
Yep, I just wonder what the rate for DC is since its the motherfucker capital of the world......
Most like boys I hear
Ottawa's population is around 800000. 1 in 5 men. 40,000 idiot sticks with credit cards.
DC's population is around 5,860,342. The ratio is lower, but the number is much, much higher.
TelAviv's population is around 500,000. The ratio is about the same as Ottawa but not as bad numbers wise as Brussells, Rome or London.
The site's primary marketing was/is directed at political centers and large centers of commerce. They have stable paychecks. The illusion of power. The 37 million accounts are all paying active members from most of the world's power centers with the money to purchase the overpriced service to talk to hookers, trannies and honey pots. The 'free' (lurker) accounts are ignored. It's already known there have been nearly a half billion eyeballs on the site to catch a glimpse of the side show but the price tag on the site scares them away. Anycase, remember the two rules on the internet:
1) If it's on the internet and it looks too good to be true. It usually is. Common sense, get some.
2) There are no girls on the internet. That's not to say there aren't any girls...but being dumb enough to believe there is a magical website where there is a magical sex tree for a premium subscription. That's pretty funny. Self respect, get some.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/israeli-rabbi-blesses-honeytrap-sex-female...
This is just a sample. Everyone else is doing it too...
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/israeli-rabbi-blesses-honeytrap-sex-female...
http://www.onlinepersonalswatch.com/news/2015/05/rich-dc-residents-cheat...
10 cities with the highest rate of membership on the site:
by Perry Stein
See full article at Washington Post
I still say this is a Hillary move and wonder if a blue dress is involved... "That Woman" went to Ottawa some years back selling handbags on a certain canadian spoof program.
https://twitter.com/tomgreenlive/status/618872849537732608
but being dumb enough to believe there is a magical website where there is a magical sex tree for a premium subscription.
Damn, there goes my fantasy.
Canucks are horny buggers
There's a logical, scientific, medical reason ... it's simply to keep warm. Nothing personal, it's all medical .....
On the other hand, maybe it's all simply 'dedication to pulic service':
" the general stereotype of Ottawaians as being more reserved, orderly, and devoted to public service. "
http://blog.exponential.com/en-us/2013/10/17/canadians-hockey-and-the-ma...
Gafaw...gafaw...gafaw
Hey, they post any phone numbers of those honey Loonie Bunnies?
"Canucks are horny buggers"
teh men anyways... Canadian women are frigid snobs.
This is true. I'm a duel citizen, lived in Canada for 30 years. Canadian women are snooty bitches. American women are easier to deal with IMHO.
Come to Long Island NY and that may change your prospective.
New York, Ontario same thing. COme to the south where the women are cheap and the booze is free, or the booze is cheap and the women are free, something like that.
Oh my god you're crazy, easiest chicks on the planet with the possible exception of Cuba and the Philippian ladies
Montreal back in the day, fucking A
So much for the IPO.
Is this what you call a...."Pump and Dump" ?
I don't understand why there's still a stigma with "cheating". I was born with the desire to have sex with multiple women, and so doesn't #LoveWins?
END THE FED.
"END THE FED."
REPEAL FATCA
I am not sure why hackers go after the little people when exposing the likes of creeps like Greenspan in heels with whip and dog collar, Yellen in her spike boots, Corzine hanging from the ceiling tryin got get off on asphyxiation, Gruber, Lois lerner, and so many many much more interesting people .....
Everybody in Canada knows Ottawa is a cespool of degenerate freeloaders.
Who get their soldiers killed but make sure they're protected.
I went down on a chick from Ottawa once.........ONCE
Did you meet a rotting Frog?
Was her name Marie-Claire? Marie-Claire Rottenbox?
If so, I think I may know her.
I once knew a chick from Ottawa
Her Ass so nice it would stoppaya
And with her tits so floppy
could stick a nip in her jallopy
Now I only get to kiss her Maguwa
I once knew an Ottawan chick,
Who told me she wanted my prick.
I quickly got nuded,
Then sighed, quite deluded
By a cutter who ran from my dick.
Oh Canada!, 'ridin dirty.'
All i'd have to do is go to the supermarket for unhappy married women. Shit, just talking to my co workers is enough. Must be a great institution.
Depends man, my wife and I have a great relationship but we both embrace our "gender roles" and don't buy into the libanazi bullshit meant to confuse and destroy relationships. I do the grunt dirty work (garbage, repair work etc) around the house and she keeps the place spotless (laundry, cleaning). We both cook, her admittedly more than I. But we both know who we are in the relationship and we both know we are different. Many men are straight up lazy and nothing more than boys in adult bodies who act just as emotionally as women do and that is a recipe for divorce.
Nice to hear.
Ditto and we love getting each other off.
Bunch of diseased scumbags who married wrong or are power assholes.
Your statement is wise and a propos to this OP news.
This news is a form of double speak and threat of blackmail. This news is a warning for any and all puppetstatesmen and court toadies of Canada. This news is not for us. "We got the goods on you so do not even think of rocking the boat, kiddo." That is the moral of this story.
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I love Ottawa. I was born and bred there. I have since moved to a lake across the river but I work in Sucking Central every day. My soul thrives on the dual cultures. Ottawa is the smallest culturally-diverse town I could tolerate.
I hate the winters but Ottawa is geographically pretty. If you are a 4-season athlete, the Ottawa Valley is heaven and it can be a cheap private get-away for foreigners. However, my passion is admittedly due to familiarity. My family and friends are here. If I was born and bred in Bumbfuck, Kanada, I would probably love those roots just the same.
It makes me sad to see so many clubs, live music venues, bars and rustic watering holes close down and go out of business over the years. As a kid, there were dozens of actions spots happening everywhere throughout the city. Now, the population has mushroomed but there are only a dozen --- at most --- places to hear a live band play!! half of which are cover bands, for crying out loud!!! On top of that, NO SMOKING IN BARS!!!!
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Most everything that ZHers have said about Ottawa in this thread is true: the population is infested with a parasitic borg-like consciousness --- a farmer's dream come true. Ever since I was a kid, EVERYBODY seemed to aspire to a "government" job. This mooch identity permiates ALL demographics: young, old, native-born whiteys, fresh-off-the-boats, male, female, whatever, to this very day. Half of my clients "Work for the government." I am only a degree of financial separation/dependence from these silly servants. I ask them all: "So.... what do you do?" and they shrug "Work for the government." and I push them: "Yeah but what do you actually do during your time at work?" and they stammer. I am convinced everybody would be better off if these silly servants were all sent home with the exact same salary/welfare cheque on condition they ceased and desisted all of their statesmen activity --- just left everybody alone. At the very least, the tax-payer would save on the electrical bills.
I cry every night I drive through my town and see all of the empty office buildings, churches, schools, recreation centers, etc. knowing there are homeless people sleeping outside. I am not the type to endorse free shit army but the waste side by side the needy is shameful.
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Ottawans and Canadians in general have a few things going for them: They genuinely embrace multi-culturalism with their hearts and souls. Sure, there is racism --- every immigrant learns that within 24 hours --- but after a few beers, we gel. Most immigrants I know come for peace and quiet.
Married wrong as in they fell for some dumb bitch's act of wanting lots of sex who then shut down within a couple years of marriage.
Yep and the city in the USSA with the most AM accounts is.......
Washington DC.
Shocker
Where did you find that? Can you post the source, I would like to check the stats for other locations.
Remember the DC Madam?
It gets cold and lonely up there in Kanukistan.
"Fucking Canadians"...
said by YT many times...
...........................guess I was right all along
Does the homosexual community use it too?
Where does Washington DC, Virginia Maryland come in?
Shhhh...morality doesn't apply to the gays. It's cultural and stuff.
Yyyyyyyy.....M.....C......A! It's fun to stay at the Yyyyyyy.....M......C......A.....ayyyyyyy!
Ask Lindsey Graham. I am sure that poofter knows.
Easy explanation, the french dominated civil services, boring overworked politicians (ha) and the Diplomatic Community is the perfect environment to support the Super Sex. Can't wait to see the list with the up coming election. The late Jack Layton (NDP) was a known visitor to Tornoto's seedy message parlors.
I just love to hear "Rub-and-Tug".
Sounds like a friendly boat in kids TV show.
.... the fuck else is there to do in Ottawa?
Make fun of Montrealians?
Politicans just need to stay honed in their screwing skills. How else can they propperly service their voters?
SHIT... I guess it's back to fucking the neighbors dog.
I find it interesting that this hacker group appears to be full of social conservatives. Seems that shaming cheaters is a bit outside of the millenial playbook.
A bit perplexed by that as well. Perhaps they are just having fun outing politicians and bankers.
Is that website just an escort service? I mean, who goes on-line to "cheat"? The male to female ratio must be 100 to 1.
It is better to put infidels down behind one's own walls than launch a far off crusade.
Hackers like to mess with people. They're also opportunists. They probably don't care. Many are libertarians.
What a bunch of hosers, eh?
take off...TGWN
I wish they could focus their effort on exposing (no pun intended) politicians, judges, and corrupt government agencies rather than stuff like this.
Agreed, but a) it is much harder to hack into those systems (but doable) and b) the consquences when caught are worse. So, the go after the personal info. THere is more lulz involved in pwning some GOP politician who is having a gay affair than that of a spreadsheet/email that proves fraud at a TBTF bank.
It will happen one day, though. Some black hat will try and challenge the system and release stuff that will "shock" the world (or, for those who read this forum, just confirm some suspecions that folks have noticed though the years, and that pundits/govts/corporations can't just deny any more b/c the info will be out there).
This is fucking great, btw. Dox em all. Fuck it.
This all goes back to the days when we were in our tight knit igloos and had to keep warm somehow.
You don't live in an igloo?
Be careful. He might have an unlicensed harpoon.
I ask my fellow Canadians the same question.
<<You don't live in an igloo?>>
If we had half-of-a-brain we would have learned from the wise eskimo: a concrete geodesic dome is a darn good way to construct a dwelling. We should all be living in them instead of our pretty little ticky tacky boxes.
Too many french whores moved into Ottawa from Montreal. Dirty fucking french sluts!!!
Oui, Oui, the French Woman is like a bird sitting frozen on a wire who will never cry out in its own self pity.
They are magnificent, sexy, amazing.
Or do I have the wrong region... lol
This was for the 2 people in the universe who did not yet know that politicians were sluts.
but they are on a bear rug with a Labatt's in each hand and a fake set of moose antlers on. Hey it's cold up here K?
Another interesting strap on. Jack Layton's liberties were reported on during the last federal elections and not one political party jumped on this because they are in the end ALL CHEATERS. Nothing but the best to represent Ooooooooh Canada.
How many Canadians posting here think their wife is tapping the Sugar Maple right now?
The politicians figuratively fuck people for a living already, so doing it literally makes it logical I suppose.
One in five is ON THAT FUCKING SITE, not just "adulterous."
I think that what this proves is that Western, Christian sexual mores are not compatible with human life. They're ugly tools developed to make a population who expresses its natural biological urges dishonest, afraid, and paranoid. If people felt free enough to be honest about their desires and to express them in consensual relationships, what poisoned dagger would priests and preachers have to stick in people's backs and control them with?
well said
Priests would make eating food and breathing into sins if they thought they could get away with it.
Priests are making free speech and opposition to homosexual extortion sins. I see your point.
Dude, if you're getting extorted by homosexuals, you should stop hanging out in airport men's rooms.
Boy are you ever right. The top thing to do in life is express your natural biological urges.
If you're afraid to do something so foundational as that, how will you ever progress to expressing anything higher like creative intentionality or spiritual development?
Poor Ace doesn't seem to have realized yet what happens to repressed urges...
And the idea is not to run out fucking whatever, but to find a GOOD way to satisfy those natural needs, and as you said, only then can one really move on to higher things!
Personally, I'm having a blast as MGTOW. I smoke a bit of weed and stay celibate, and I really enjoy how drama-free and happy my life is without any modern women in it. The dating scene is just not worth it, times a billion, even for tall, super-fit, successful, healthy men like myself, so I can't imagine why most bother.
I personally prefer to focus on creativity and personal/spiritual development, and always seek to find better ways to satifisy all my urges. Self-mastery FTW!
What they don't tell you,is that all of the "girls" on Ashley Madison are cheating on their husbands,too..
Why would any guy get married? We already read how the college-aged females are paying for class.
And what this feminised society won't acknowledge is that women are just as likely to cheat as men (although in both cases it's still the man's fault, naturally).
Women are more adept liars and don't kiss and tell , I have had affairs with women and they can lie with a straight face on the phone to hubby, Amazing.
As have I. It was a moral low point in my life. Today, if I meet a guy who cheats on his wife, I know to scratch him off my A list. If he'll fuck his wife's best friend he'll fuck me over too. I don't need that shit in my life.
....connecting the dots. beautiful thing.
You raised two distinct scenarios. Effing your best friend's wife is on a whole nother level. I think men can and are more faithful to a male best friend than even their wives. No proof, just some observations throughout history in literature.
That was a righteous comment. Bravo.
Truer words were never spoken!
"The hackers... referred to (all Candians as potential) dirtbags who didn't deserve discretion... appeared uninterested in blackmailing individual customers"
Unlike an organized crime outfit.? Really? Sounds like a very specialized criminal conspiracy. Maybe an extremist faith based PAC. Or millions of lawyers chumming the waters.
Bar FTW!
I went to Ottawa 25 years ago for a wedding. Met a lot of the power people there at the time. Every one there over the age of 30 was either divorced or on their second marriage at least. ALL of my friend's inlaws were divorced. I have no idea why anyone living there gets married. Of course my friend was divorced 8 years later. Funny he is an incredibly smart guy but in this case obviously couldn't read the tea leaves.
Ottawa the "villages" of the Great white north...
And this has exactly what to do with the financial & economic strength of the government and the nation? This is tabloid stuff. Please, no.
We have lots of ''pairs clubs'' here in Europe. Why lie and cheat on your mate. Be open and tell them you want variety and you would be surprised that your mate might agree.
I have been to 2 clubs in Germany, one had indoor pool, saunas, tanning beds, dining room with big buffet and ''fucking rooms'' all carpeted from floor to ceiling and black lights.
No pressure to fuck anyone. just relax and if something clicks you can go to a fucking room.
BTW. anyone being an asshole or rude is politely asked to leave. Oh, and its all nude, you get lockers for your clothes.
Dang! I can picture it now....."Honey, I'm gonna go bang that broad in the ass then grab some more 7-layer dip. Can I get you anything?"
You would be asked to leave for being a jerk. There is lots of NON verbal communication that goes on. If your not cool you can just fuck off out the door.
Um...it was a joke.
And take it easy on the SAVE button. Deep breath...
+100 fuck that!! whose joking!!? lol...."honey - they got your favorite chip dip! - I'll be right back!"
You would be asked to leave for being a jerk. There is lots of NON verbal communication that goes on. If your not cool you can just fuck off out the door.
Aber nicht im Nederland, Belgishe, or der Frankreich???!
Am dem meistens welcher Staat?
Sicher, in Niederlande in Maastricht and Roermond and Amsterdam
Do a search for ''ParenClubs'' in Europe. There is a list of all clubs and addresses and what amenities they offer.
i never even heard of this place
i don't even know why ppl bother getting married
all the money wasted on a wedding day
Shit, I spent a hundred fifty bucks on my wedding, then about 300 for the divorce. Perennial DIYer.
"I want to see the records you bought. I want to see the parents you had. I want to see the insects you killed. I want to see the friends you made...." -- The Last Serial Killer
It's genetic.. Here in Illinois, the legislature reafirmed adultery and fornication so HR could use it against them. Oh, and those are the ones most likely to steal...
Because HR is meant to screw the worker, and protect the employer
I ran for Mayor of Ottawa in the last two municipal elections. Prime Minister Steven Harper has a sham marriage that is available online Google. Most politicians on Parliament Hill are left-of-center "NeoLiberals" with the exception of the neoCONS that are much fewer in numbers. I suspect that their cheating behaviours stem from the fact that the Government of CANADA only hires deceitful, or at least capable of deceit, employees. From the top down in all levels of governance employees are told to keep their mouths shut and not to volunteer information. The Government of CANADA only hires 'High Social Monitors' due to many years of experience with employees that speak out against government. In brief, the Government of CANADA needs to hire people that game and cheat the system so that successive governments can hide their own wrongdoing, and malfeasance.
CANADA has enough money to hire the most unscrupulous individuals on the market, and that, in a nutshell, explains why there is such a high representation in the postal code for Parliament Hill. Most politicians in Ottawa live downtown. I, on the other hand, live in abject poverty in the slums of Liberal Intensification that the whoring Liberals built in the 80s in the west of Ottawa. Moreover, I'm not a cheating bastard and have lost in the elections both times. Sometimes I wonder if I should attempt running one more time given the Liberal incumbency conundrum I am always faced with?
I have pretty much always hated Liberals.
"In brief, the Government of CANADA needs to hire people that game and cheat the system so that successive governments can hide their own wrongdoing, and malfeasance."
haha....and that makes them unique, somehow?
You ran for mayor!?! Ha! Ha! Ha!
I used to live in Ottawa-Center and I dreamed of making history by running in that riding as the only hors-Quebec candidate for the Bloc Quebecois. Even though I suspect he is controlled opposition, now that Duceppe is jumping back in, I just might try.
You will have fun if you ever run for office. Debates are fun, and so are the media personalities if you get to know them a bit. CFRA talk show hosts are very pro-politics, and always make room for everone running in any of the elections. Ottawa is a good place to run politically in any election. If you honestly want to run, and the thought of public speaking is not a deterrent I would go for it just for the learning curve, and experience. Most that run take at least three chances at it before succeeding at a win. In brief, I have had fun running the two times I did it. The cost was not bad either.
I think it says a lot about marriage. That is an incredible numer of people seeking to cheat on the spouse. Marrieds hooking up to screw each other, leaving the loving spouse at home? There are going to be some interesting conversations among the happily married folks. My idea has always been, "I like to be able to see who ever I like, sleep with any nice looking woman willing." For that reason, I have stayed single for long periods of my life. Till 32. Then again at 52. Single is good, if you can live with yourself, have sufficient self confidence to live a single life. Marriage can be comfortable and predictable, it can also be a shit storm if you spouse decided to be a bitch and stay stuck in bitch mode. The bitch is gone, and it feels so fucking good.
I think it says a lot about people. They get all caught up in the wedding nonsense, not thinking about the permanence of the actual commitment and sacrifice.
I married my best friend after dating cunt after cunt after cunt and I love every day that I get to call her my wife.
You are an honest man
Okay sorry about other comment. you are cool.
Let me tell you an experience in a German ''pairs club''. I went there single (costs a bit more than if you go in as couple) and wound up tangling with a nice german women . After the sex we started a good conversation and the she said ''Sorry, but my fiance is on the other side of the room and gets jealous if I show too much interest in a guy''. So he wasn't jealous about her havin sex but about an interesting conversation.
I can see that. Sex is a carnal instinct, but if there is a personal connection then the significant other feels more threatened.
People are so interesting. And by interesting, I mean fucked up.
LOL
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+100 MH for the best fucking quote of the day!! People are so interesting. And by interesting, I mean fucked up.
that there is some funny shit alright!
Its so cold..its a three dog night...but I could not find any dogs...so Ashley Madison will do...
Back in my younger days (a long time ago) I did a lot of clubbing. I was single. A single friend of mine had a wedding band and always put it on when going into the bar. You would be amazed at how much pussy that guy got. Women come on to married guys. Lots of women also want one night stands and a married guy at least has some experience in their minds.
Yup. I went out bar-hopping with a single buddy of mine just after I got married. I let him put on my wedding ring and the ring suddenly turned into a pussy magnet. Most women, and I'm not saying all women, genuinely like to be treated like they don't matter and they hate it when a guy is nice to them. IMO, the reason they flock to married men is not because they see something special in the man, but because of the challenge of seeing if they can get the dude to cheat on his wife so they can feel better about themselves because no man has ever offered his eternal love to them. They also won't have to worry about the guy becoming a clinger.
I think your last sentence makes the most sense. Women are like some guys in that respect. Funny thing, I had a one night stand with a Brit woman in Utrecht , after wild crazy sex, and I was getting dressed she said ''Do you think I am a slut? Being nice, I said ''Of course not''. Then she said ''Why not? I like being called a slut''
Yeah, I'm probably generalizing too much and the last sentence in my post is probably closer to the truth.
I think your last sentence makes the most sense. Women are like some guys in that respect. Funny thing, I had a one night stand with a Brit woman in Utrecht , after wild crazy sex, and I was getting dressed she said ''Do you think I am a slut? Being nice, I said ''Of course not''. Then she said ''Why not? I like being called a slut''