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Amazon Just Became Bigger Than Walmart: Here's Why

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MThe moment everyone has been waiting for has finally arrived, by which of course, we mean the moment when the market cap of AMZN would finally surpass Wal-mart.

Just after 4pm Jeff Bezos' Amazon reported number that were quite impressive at first blush. And at second blush as well. Among these: a whopping blow out beat on the topline of $23.2 billion in revenue, an increase of 27% from a year ago, and far above the $22.4 billion expected, which in turn resulted in Net income of $92 million, or EPS of $0.19. The street was expecting a loss of $0.14 per share.

In terms of where the bulk of the growth and profitability came from, one word, or rather three letters: AWS (Amazon Web Services), also known as the "cloud", whose net sales soared by 81% Y/Y to $1.8 billion generating a 21.4% operating margin and net income of $391 million up from $77 million a year ago.

And while the quarter was good especially for AMZN the "web services" company, it was AMZN's forecast for the future that was even more impressive: 

The company now expects net sales to be between $23.3 billion and $25.5 billion, or to grow between 13% and 24% compared with third quarter 2014.  It also expects operating income (loss) is expected to be between $(480) million and $70 million, compared to $(544) million in third quarter 2014, although if the current quarter is any indicatiton this is some rather serious sandbagging.

But words aside: here, in three charts is what happened, with the company that now employs a record 183,000 people:

Worldwide net sales vs total Employees:

 

Q2 operating and net income in context. Clearly the quarter was an outlier - the only question is why and how?

 

And finally LTM Free Cash Flow. It appears Bezos does indeed have quite a bit FCF leverage if and when he wants it.

 

Again our question: why convert AMZN from a growth to a free cash flow model now: the last time the company tried this it ended up being quite disappointed.

For now, however, the algos love it, the shorts hate it and are scrambling to cover, and the result is an AMZN whose market cap has just jumped by over $40 billion to a record $268 billion.

And, yes, It is now far bigger than Walmart.

 

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Thu, 07/23/2015 - 16:42 | 6346622 PoasterToaster
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All that churn for no profit.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 16:48 | 6346645 kchrisc
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"All that churn for no profit."

When one considers the markets are artificially boosted by the banksters' printed fiat, then there is profit, just not for the unconnected or unchosen.

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:07 | 6346741 knukles
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Now I feel left out.  Nobody told me about this so I wasn't waiting for it and haven't been invited to any celebrations or parties.
I feel slighted and as I now identify as a slighted person I should have access to a comfort room and supplemental income.
Gimme gimme gimme

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:08 | 6346743 greenskeeper carl
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Im not seeing any GAAP vs non GAAP. I highly doubt that was a 'real' profit. Although the walmart vs amazon comparison is an apt one, at least in my case becasue anything I can get off amazon vs going somewhere like walmart, i do it. About the only thing that gets me in walmart is cheap ammo. with a prime membership, I can get a surprising array of things delivered without having to mingle with the dregs of society. Its used to be funny, but now its just infuriating.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:20 | 6346786 NotApplicable
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I had to get a last minute item at WM earlier this week after not going in there for several years. It was one of the biggest, newest WMs in town, and at 4 PM on a Tuesday, the place was deserted. I even managed to get the closest parking space to the door.

As for Amazon, another area I expect them to eventually dominate is global sales tax calculation/collection/distribution services. With every government crying over "lost revenue," eventually someone will come up with a workable system. That someone will obviously not be some small mom/pop operation but a corp with massive scale.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:26 | 6346826 kchrisc
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Two things are certain in life: Death and plunder.

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 16:51 | 6346655 kaiserhoff
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So amazon is finally earning more than my paper boy?

Big whoop.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:14 | 6346775 Bangin7GramRocks
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$91 million in 3 months. I think the New York Apple Store earns more per quarter. It's gotten to the point that a 20 year old company that is valued at hundreds of billions is killing it with a $91 million profit. Wow! I guess I just don't understand the "markets".

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:23 | 6346815 overmedicatedun...
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the amzn's and walmarts are designed to serve the lower class that is coming with the 3rd world invasion and the off shoring of the economy..providing low cost products for low income populations as the gutting of america and EU countries ..google is the eye seeing all for the reptiles who planned all this..I am amazed so few see the connection to the redesign of the west and the consolidation (monopoly mega corp ownership of production)..amzn's and walmarts must exsist for this to work. oh and no coins and paper money, try paying your amzn bill with cash.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 20:55 | 6347419 monad
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Since William of Orange there has only ever been one Corporation. Maybe even since Akhenaton. One malevolent, corrupt from the head down shoddily run corporation. The Corporation is getting better, but we're going away.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 16:55 | 6346673 COSMOS
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A Shipping PONZI scheme is what Amazon is.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:09 | 6346751 knukles
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When Amazon was first starting, one of the brokers was trying to tell me why it was such a big deal.  Because they didn't have to invest in any infrastructure. 

You know, the shit you order just fucking appears on your front doorstep out of the replicator from heaven.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 18:01 | 6346942 NihilistZero
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Not that it justifies the insane valuations, but Amazon Web Services is really where it's at for AMZ.  You've basically got 3 companies that have the Data Center Cloud thing locked down.  Google, Microsoft and Amazon.  Google and Microsoft are of course pushing their own services and solutions and to whatever extent customizing them to integrate to 3rd party stuff.  Amazon is basically offering the Data Center for rent to do whatever you want or need.  Netflix runs on Amazon Web Services.  Any start up that needs bandwidth and reliability is going to run on AWS.  The retail shipping side losing money or breaking even is probably fine by them.  Amazon is looking at a future of BEING the internet.  At least as far as cloud services and the like.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 19:23 | 6347194 Ralph Spoilsport
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Amazon AWS runs heavy-duty applications like Netflix like you said. Does anybody know if Microsoft or Apple does the same thing or do they only offer cloud storage? Having the capability to underpin Netflix is a different business model from storing cat pix or your kids MP3 files.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:15 | 6346777 trader1
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maybe that's just how it's reported...

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:45 | 6346884 Bloppy
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It was already up $50 in the two weeks leading up to today's earnings and near all-time highs. After hours, it tacks on another $80.

So these numbers warrant a 25-30% move upward in two weeks? All because of free cash flow, which is known to fluctuate wildly?

It's a TWENTY year old company, not a start-up.

And still waiting for meaningful, sustainable earnings to emerge. WTF?

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 16:49 | 6346626 Bam_Man
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Quarterly earnings of $0.19 a share and the stock is now trading at $570.

IMHO it would be a "bargain" at $5.70 - but at $570, not so much.

 

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 16:50 | 6346653 KnuckleDragger-X
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You get a free bubble with your Prime membership, fits right over your head.....

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 16:56 | 6346679 OrangeJews
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What?  No one likes a 4 digit P/E???

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:02 | 6346711 El Vaquero
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Correction:  You get a free bubble with your Subprime membership!

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:12 | 6346762 Serfs Up
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I am milking my Amazon prime membership for all it's worth....to the great detriment of my local retail box stores...so the Walmart comparison makes sense.

What doesn't make sense, ever, is a p/e measured in the thousands...or even at 750 if I multiply 0.19 x 4 and divide into 570.

Sorry....love the free 2-day shipping, still won't buy ur stawks.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 18:38 | 6347047 RogerMud
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not to mention .19 is a *single* data point.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:06 | 6346717 ParkAveFlasher
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What is lost in the distortion of share prices caused by all these "liquidity" hijinks is the definition of "what makes a good company versus what makes a bad company". 

Personally, I think Amazon is pretty amazing at micro distribution / customer fulfillment of both real and digital goods.  That Amazon does not really manufacture anything does not affect my favorable view of the company itself - it is a horizontal fit in the manufacturing marketplace, not a vertical one.  Huge volumes of product clear through Amazon and at costs to the consumer that compete very well with the 15 minute drive to a brick and mortar to play the what-I-want-at-a-price-I'd-pay availability gambit.  IMO they ought to have a toe hold in the fulfillment space.  The future of consumer goods distribution is micro distribution.

Again, the shame is in the stock markets, that make winners look like losers and vice versa. You'd have to be either and insider, a wily mfer, or completely out of your mind to play in this game.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:11 | 6346756 greenskeeper carl
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I agree, I do not own amazon stock nor any of the other bubbly tech giants, but I do have a prime membership and do use it a lot.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:17 | 6346790 trader1
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Share Statistics Avg Vol (3 month)3: 3,117,770 Avg Vol (10 day)3: 3,964,560 Shares Outstanding5: 465.68M Float: 381.17M % Held by Insiders1: 18.26% % Held by Institutions1: 67.70% Shares Short (as of Jun 30, 2015)3: 5.40M Short Ratio (as of Jun 30, 2015)3: 2.20 Short % of Float (as of Jun 30, 2015)3: 1.40% Shares Short (prior month)3: 5.29M
Thu, 07/23/2015 - 20:39 | 6347411 kaiserhoff
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That almost 70% short is gonna leave a mark.

Fri, 07/24/2015 - 02:14 | 6348230 Blano
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I think the 67.70% was the amount held by institutions, not % short.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 16:46 | 6346636 Omega_Man
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I'm ready to buy at the top... where do I sign?

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 16:47 | 6346641 Consuelo
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The Blow-off phase...?

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 16:48 | 6346644 starman
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Im writing a movie script about the future.

Everybody drives Tesla's ordering stuff with their ipads on Amazon.

Should I ad some mild to hardcore porn? 

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 16:54 | 6346665 kchrisc
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Great! A sequel to Idiocracy.

"Idiocracy 2.0: Utopia"

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 18:56 | 6347104 Moe Howard
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Yes to the pron. The harder the better. Maybe they could all be buying tighter twats and bigger dicks on those iPads while driving Teslas.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 16:49 | 6346647 heisenberg991
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I just bought a new kidney with free shipping, Amazon Prime rocks.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 19:24 | 6347195 Moe Howard
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Tell them it doesn't work right. They can't take it back so you get full refund and get to keep the "defective" kidney. It works with generators. Once you put gas in it, they can't take it back.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 20:41 | 6347416 kaiserhoff
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Thanks for the tip,

  but how do you know this?  :)

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 16:50 | 6346651 Tinky
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Yes, I mean of the numerous things that I've been waiting for, this certainly tops the list.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 16:54 | 6346668 kaiserhoff
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We all have our bucket of wish lists.

I can't wait to see the cats and dogs rip the snot out of those delivery drones.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 16:52 | 6346658 Kaiser Sousa
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is this good for stawks????

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 16:55 | 6346660 H H Henry P P P...
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Amazon deserves its high market cap. Walmart is feeling the pain and is why they've been opening Neighborhood Walmarts to change their tune (and they are even opening kwik e marts at gas stations i believe)

amazons next venture will have to be finding a way to turn itself into a full fledged grocery store (milk, fresh meat, etc). they sort of do this already, but nobody realistically does their grocery shopping on amazon.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 18:32 | 6346685 RogerMud
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Dont forget Walmart's side deal with DHS, that's gotta help with revenue. Wonder how much they were paid for having "plumbing problems".

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 16:55 | 6346669 buzzsaw99
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wow their p/e went from negative infinity to a mere 2500X in a single quarter. that's nearly a positive infinity improvement. IMPRESSIVE!

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:18 | 6346791 Rainman
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Impressive and suspicious

                  http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/amzn/pe-ratio

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:21 | 6346811 Pareto
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Up 17% after hours.  Shorts are getting their asses handed to them.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 16:55 | 6346672 Keltner Channel Surf
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With breadth this poor, overnight index positions on days when AAPL or AMZN report is close to a red/black roulette bet.

Like with APPL a few years ago, by quarter-end nearly all large mutual and hedge funds will have window-dressed so much, many will report AMZN as their sole holding.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 16:55 | 6346674 Pareto
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These numbers suggest that everybody's using it every day - all day.  I don't profess to know everybody, but i know a lot of people, and few of them are AMZN shoppers.  They use it for pricing and pictures and shit like that.

Fact is, I simply don't believe those numbers.  And thats all I'm going to say - I'm taking my ball and going home.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 16:59 | 6346687 H H Henry P P P...
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that's because the people you know are still buying newspapers in 2015. your generation is a dying breed.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:18 | 6346794 Pareto
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Oh I get what you're saying HHH, and for the record, I didn't down vote ya.  But even the young people - fuck I aint seeing it.  If it was really that heavily utilized as the numbers would suggest, then surely I would see and hear more about it.  Lastly, i don't buy newspapers and it was my generation that created this fucking monster, soat the end of the day, I don't really know wth you are talking about.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 18:53 | 6347090 H H Henry P P P...
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Many people that I know DO use Amazon, so that pretty much puts us back at suare one. 

And for all the newspaper readers down voting, just remember; you wouldn't have even read an article on Amazon's earnings until the next morning...

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 20:32 | 6347389 Turin Turambar
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I shop and buy everything non-food online. Amazon.com is the conduit for probably 80% of my purchases. I absolutely love it; however, I do get pissed and look to rerout orders if I see tax charged. Screw the sociopaths. They steal too much of my earnings as it is.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 16:56 | 6346681 tempo
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my amzn...today I bought 3 items for $26 total. 2 delivered free to CA and 1 to NY. No need to leave the house. Last week bought a $45 mp3 player. Cheaper than Target, no sales tax. Delivered free, the free pickup on return. Making money is not their objective. Just increase sales. Wall street loves it. Amzn makes my life easy so I love them. No matter the item they always have it and deliver it free and its cheaper than Walmart and Target.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:01 | 6346709 heisenberg991
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Walmart is like Hooli and Amazon is Pied Piper. 

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:08 | 6346745 overmedicatedun...
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tempo fuck you-& any your types buying from .gov-r amzn - cia - dhszn..you don't get it this co will eat your childrens future. our culture is committing suicide via internet.

a co that never made a yr / yr profit if not for the FED and .gov same as google these are the co's owned by and run by the reptiles elite/.gov snakes..but your type wouldn't give a shit ..you buy things cause your a brainwashed consumer taxunit shit for brains.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:30 | 6346838 Brooks_Orpington
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The irony, to me, is that the very device upon which I'm reading your reply on a semi-anarchist website was purchased at Amazon.  Using the same Internet you used to reply that is causing us to commit cultural suicide.

I'm not saying you're right or wrong.  Just ironic.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:33 | 6346853 overmedicatedun...
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brooks don't worry soon I will be banned or sites like ZH will be changed to "hope and change echo chambers"..

much like most broadcast Msm networks best example cnbc and msnbc and more recent fox.

the seeds of the destruction of all this is in the design that the reptiles cannot change, perhaps one day most will choose to not be connected as they stomp on the iphones and pads and what not.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:49 | 6346895 Brooks_Orpington
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Don't sweat being banned, OM.  I'm on my second life here, and figure if I want to stay I'll probably end up with a third.

As for the technology, we are Luddites.  I embrace that.  This weird world will be left to those who are far more comfortable (or ignorant) with it than I.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 21:03 | 6347484 monad
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Neither of you will be banned. Everybody who ever posts anything on zh will be picked up for reeducation. We're all going to have jobs at SoylentCo.

Even that guy whose sister makes 1789 a day rubbing her yayas and hoohoo into her webcam.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 19:03 | 6347124 Moe Howard
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A week ago on vacation I bought an item from Amazon to be delivered to my home, using an Amazon CC and Prime. It was there when I arrived. Yesterday I saw a book I wanted, I ordered it. The "Rewards" from the previous purchase covered the price of the book, except for 85 cents. The book arrived at my doorstep this afternoon, so quiet I didn't hear the truck, although I got an email telling me it was out there, and sure enough, it was. How they make money selling a $5.35 book for 85 cents and shipping it overnight "for free" [I have a promotional Prime membership for a year] I don't know. Maybe if they sell a few million more books for 85 cents shipped free overnight they will be the richest fucks on the planet.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 16:58 | 6346688 Bunga Bunga
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Centralized web services, lol.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:13 | 6346768 NotApplicable
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*Distributed centralized web services.

Still a lol, though, as there's always a layer of centralized control, regardless.

In other news, we routinely block AWS IPs as their customers are always hitting our web servers in bizarre ways. The last one claimed to be "monitoring twitter streams" by repeatedly hitting one of my form submission pages 20-30 times in a minute.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 18:26 | 6347022 RogerMud
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AWS is the quintessential eggs-in-one-basket. Can you imagine the impact that a systemic cascading failure would have? Availability zones my foot, they're all running on the same underlying architecture.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 20:58 | 6347467 monad
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Hammering is for Chinese Universities.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 16:58 | 6346690 nakki
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I'm still waiting for amazon to make $15 a share per year. Amazon servers (I mean the cloud) may make $3 per share in the future. Where is the other $12 coming from.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:00 | 6346703 eightysixthebs
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Anyone buying here deserves what they have coming.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:07 | 6346739 Keltner Channel Surf
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Yeah, like their pick of any college they want when their 2-yr-olds grow up.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:03 | 6346720 SpeakerFTD
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Wouldn't short this for les than $800/share.   This stock could get stupid.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:11 | 6346747 nakki
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So like I said they made $390 million this quarter from the cloud. For a year that would be $1.6 billion a year. Divide that by shares outstanding and you get $3 a share. Since it appears that being a middle man will never make them money unless every other retailer is long gone $575 seems about $400 to high. 

This is not some start up company and if and that's a huge if, they'll never earn anything close to $15 a share which at this price would still put them at a PE around 40.

Bubbles will be bubbles.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:14 | 6346772 heisenberg991
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The cloud is a race to zero with IBM, Google, and others quoting lower and lower prices. Whoever offers free cloud service will eventually win lol

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:22 | 6346814 eucalyptus
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IBM has lost the cloud. It will be a race to the bottom between AWS, Azure, and Google. Cloud margins will accelerate in compression.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 18:43 | 6347057 RogerMud
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And for each player, when the razor thin margin leads to a cost-cutting induced outage, it's game over.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 20:34 | 6347396 monad
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They will each claim a layer of the market. IBM has shadow government & GS type darknets, AWS has Oracle type MNCs, Azure has companies who can't figure out AWS and Google has a pretty ignorant single purpose hive mind continuously nibbling away at Microsoft's base until the subject is dead, wholly digested, as decreed by the fair and unbiased globalist looters and msm worldwide 15 years ago when they ordered the Wet Nurse on board.

Fuck Lawyers.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 20:13 | 6347321 monad
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I guess thats going to be a federally subsidized private multinational Interpol front with the board loaded with rabid maddog pimps.

Your critical business information in the "cloud". Sure. Right. Free as IRS debt serfs, too.

Take some more of these kupons.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:32 | 6346844 kchrisc
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"Bubbles will be bubbles."

Going back to just the "Tulip Mania," and moving forward, one will find that all so-called "bubbles" are fueled by money manipulation, plunder, of some sort.

So, "Plundering will be plundering."

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:09 | 6346749 Omega_Man
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What's the P/E ratio now as opposed to normal?

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:11 | 6346757 overmedicatedun...
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amzn's ideal customer posting here are bots.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:17 | 6346783 jcdenton
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If this is such great news, then why is not Amazon hiring? That is, hiring enough people. Case in point ..

 

IT Support Engineer All times are in Central Daylight Time. Job ID  297415 Location  US-TX-Austin Posted Date  12/8/2014 Company  Amazon Corporate LLC Position Category  Operations, IT, & Support Engineering Recruiting Team  North American Teams - Consumer - Tech Your application was submitted successfully. Thank you for applying. To return to our career site, please click here. <img height="1" width="1" border="0" src="https://conv.indeed.com/pagead/conv/9247441117420220/?rand=1437685929944..." />

Your application is already on file for this position. While we are working on it, you are welcome to apply to any other open position.

 

 

So, we have been working on your application since December 8, 2014. Boy, is that comforting ..

Fri, 07/24/2015 - 01:25 | 6348174 pitz
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Are you Indian and eligible for a H-1B visa?  If not, then you're probably not going to be working at Amazon as an IT Support Engineer.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:21 | 6346800 kchrisc
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One could take the analysis of Walmart and Amazon further.

If you run a ponzi fraudulent-reserve banking and plunder scheme and wish to have it continue as long as possible, you must forestall the inevitable price-inflation. You can do that by exporting your printed poison as cheap capital, and then control exchange and interest rates. However, you will need to jump start the process of selling massive amounts of imported goods in the American country. That is where Walmart comes in.

You foster a small unknown retail firm, with hidden Jewish ties, up into the big leagues, use its supposed poster-boy American founder to push the lie of "Made In America" for you, and then inundate this firm with your printed fiat via your partners in crime, the streeters. The sheeple will unwittingly snap up all of its wears, and the firm's success will then push its competitors to then also start sourcing overseas.

However, when your plunder has nearly run its course, you then must promote another firm with a lower cost structure than the first. Though not profitable in the traditional sense, this firm will allow you to continue your fiat plundering a bit longer, and also allow you to consolidate more control, power, to you over retailing to the sheeple.

This then allows you to work hand and hand with your banksters, and their violence-puppets, government, to enslave, in various ways, the sheeple to you, the de facto "government store."

Your profits accrue to you hidden in the channels of your banksters' fiat and associated fiat-debts pushed to the sheeple. You may also profit by periodic sales of the over valued stock of these firms. Sales then covered up by your banksters and their streeter partners.

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..

 

If you don't see Zion, you've missed the forest.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:28 | 6346834 Omega_Man
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nice, I want to start a religion of money now

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:22 | 6346809 The Delicate Genius
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they might want to make a move into making their own tv shows and/or movies like netflix...

Personally, I love amazon - almost never had a problem, and when I did, they were all over it.

I don't doubt they're over-valued and in some trouble... but look around...

It's also amazing that Amazon has not been taken over by the usual suspects, if anything to stop the sale of certain books - probably coming at some point...

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:37 | 6346861 DutchBoy2015
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Amazon is owned by  the kike roach Jeff Bezos.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:52 | 6346905 The Delicate Genius
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I junked you for the superfluous, needlessly pejorative 'kike'

Not clear to me he's Jewish

http://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/news/don-t-sell-books-that-deny-th...

Don't really care - he's not some ardent Zioturd or Israel Firster, so I don't really care which building his grandparents went into to worship their invisible playmate in the sky.

As it stands, Amazon has resisted a lot of pressure from Jewish [and other] groups to remove certain books

http://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/news/don-t-sell-books-that-deny-th...

And for the most part, Amazon seems to have stuck to its free speech guns.

That's commendable, in my book. [I don't even entirely buy the 'revisionist' dogma...but I'm 1000% in favor of free speech]

Why isn't it in yours?

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:58 | 6346928 DutchBoy2015
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You don't think Bezos and Schultz (starbucks) give lots of cash to Israel?

  SMDH.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 18:15 | 6346986 The Delicate Genius
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i dunno aout Bezos doing much of anything re israel.

seems safely libertarian

http://www.alternet.org/media/what-will-washington-post-be-under-jeff-bezos

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/08/the-politics-of-new-...

biggest crticism I have is he didn't fire the reprehensible Jennifer Rubin, who is such a Zio shill as to lack any intellectual merit

http://mondoweiss.net/2013/08/what-will-bezos-do-with-aipac-all-stars-of...

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:59 | 6346936 Omega_Man
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I see they sell German helmets there, perhaps I can list my single decal SS worn by a iron cross winner, ebay deleted my listing for BS reasons. 

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 22:04 | 6347681 mijev
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Openbazaar is coming. I've only read about it and haven't used it but they are targeting ebay users.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 18:00 | 6346938 DutchBoy2015
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Too bad you didn't see the documentary on how they treat their workers (slaves).  its downright disgusting.

 

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 18:35 | 6347042 FredFlintstone
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It wasn't biased in any way was it?

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 19:14 | 6347164 nmewn
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Careful now, you'll be accused by the local rabid achmeds of being a talmudist kiddie fiddler or sumpin...lol.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 18:03 | 6346953 DutchBoy2015
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I take BDS seriously and do my homework.  I won't buy from Amazon,  you can actually get lower prices if you spend more time shopping.

And NOW we have NON Zionist Amazon type stores popping up here in Europe.  Same low prices and free shipping.  The other day I actually saved over 20 euros compared to Amazon price.  

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 19:07 | 6347144 Moe Howard
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They do make their own TV shows etc. Go to amazon and look.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:24 | 6346819 cigarEngineer
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What matters is Revenue. Amazon is very far from catching WalMart in terms of Revenue.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 19:53 | 6347272 monad
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Walmart Net Revenue  - Taxpayer Appropriations = 5.6 - 7.8 = (-2.2B) not counting the casualties and damages inflicted on actual US citizens by their parasitic beneficiaries and their riots, and exhausting the medical system, and overwhelming the education system with gimps and tards, and overwhelming the justice system, and exhausting all government services.

Thats how ratfuck Krugman defines Revenue. What kind of cigars do you engineer, Swisher Sweets?

*winning*

 

Fri, 07/24/2015 - 01:26 | 6348176 pitz
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Probably smishers. 

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:25 | 6346823 Omega_Man
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Does Amazon qualify for near zero % financing for share buy backs? Where's Ichan

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:33 | 6346843 Bunga Bunga
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When will they take over WMT?

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:36 | 6346856 DutchBoy2015
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I go on Amazon to look for an item but never buy it there.  I read the reviews and then search furthur sometimes to the factory and get the LOWEST price.  I won't give that kike roach or ANY kike roach any of my money.

Same goes for the kike owned Starbucks.  I can make 30 cups of expresso at home for the same that they charge for one coffee.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:54 | 6346917 Omega_Man
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but where do you bank?? Got you there! 

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:56 | 6346922 DutchBoy2015
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ABN-AMRO

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 18:05 | 6346959 Omega_Man
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Gerrit Zalm, look him up,,, runs ABN AMRO
Thu, 07/23/2015 - 18:10 | 6346972 DutchBoy2015
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My brothers name is Gerrit.  (wink) and my name starts with a ''D''.

BTW , I know where Gerrit lives.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 18:34 | 6347039 FredFlintstone
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Dirk?

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 18:35 | 6347046 DutchBoy2015
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Possibly  :-)

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 20:30 | 6347378 Mongoose
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Dirk?

Dirk Pitt!?!

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 18:33 | 6347038 DutchBoy2015
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BTW, Gerrit is member of the Dutch Reformed Church (protestant)

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:41 | 6346870 DutchBoy2015
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Saw a documentary on BBC a few months ago on how Amazon treats their warehouse workers.  Like fucking slaves.  they have a certain number of seconds to retrieve an item and if they fuck up it is cause for dismissal.

Fuck Jew Bezos.

 

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:52 | 6346903 Anopheles
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Amazon loses about $1.5 billion a year on shipping.   That's not a sustainable business model when they are already working on slim margins.   If they raise their shipping rates, then their sales will drop substatntially. 

That's why Amazon has been experimneting with their own shipping services. 

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 18:01 | 6346943 HowdyDoody
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Once the opposition is destroyed and the intended monopoly is achieved, the prices of goods and delivery can be 'adjusted' appropriately.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 18:07 | 6346969 DutchBoy2015
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Lots of Amazon type websites here in Europe starting up. Same deal. free shipping , supposedly lowest prices but if you delve deeper you can find lower prices.  Most people don't take the time because they think Amazon is the lowest. so stop there.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 23:51 | 6348008 22winmag
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True.

 

Amazon is 10-20% higher on rifle scopes than other sources. 

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 17:53 | 6346909 Omega_Man
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So if ZH opened a fund... what kind of return would we get, and would it short gold? 

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 18:14 | 6346983 Hugh G. Rection
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Amazon prime is shipping my sons new mattress via 2 day air, for FREE, and we are in Hawaii...!!

 

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 18:28 | 6346999 RogerMud
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I hope AMZN can make it with AWS because JET.com is going to smoke Amazon in the retail space. If you haven't taken a look, go get a free 12-month membership (JET's version of PRIME) while the codes still work. 

 

  1. Go to Jet.com and fill in your info (wait, don’t hit create account yet)
  2. Click “Have Promo Code” and enter MICROSOFT or CURISMA or GOLDMAN
  3. Click Create Account. The membership starts after your first purchase.

       Source: http://therewardboss.com/2015/07/22/free-1-year-jet-com-membership-testi...

 

 

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 19:14 | 6347163 Moe Howard
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MICROSOFT failed, but GOLDMAN worked. The Tribe code test.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 21:59 | 6347662 bullybear
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Jet is a complete and utter scam. Investment ponzi grade. There is no business model there!. It's over, Amazon owns general ecommerce.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 23:40 | 6347944 RogerMud
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I can't disagree with you, time will tell if Jet finds a niche. While Amazon is very good at ecommerce, they don't have a unique formula. Any competitor who can match Amazon's logistics would make a significant dent in Amazon's revenue.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 18:32 | 6347026 DutchBoy2015
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What Amazon and others of their ilk have done is create a lot of jobs in parcel delivery.  Here in Netherlands , Fedex, UPS and DHL are already contracting to independent guys with vans,  Seems like all I see are delivery trucks on the road.  

A friend of mine ordered a bike thru Amazon.DE  (german Amazon) . ordered it at 5 pm and it was delivered by 11 AM the next day,

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 18:30 | 6347029 orangegeek
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bullish for walmart

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 18:44 | 6347061 DutchBoy2015
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I guess all those empty malls will make great detention centers.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 18:47 | 6347070 DutchBoy2015
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What this site does it takes you to the top 5 cheapest places to get the item you want,  then you buy from them,

http://www.kieskeurig.nl/?utm_source=keiskeurig.nl&utm_medium=parkeddoma...

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 19:06 | 6347142 teutonicate
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Tyler, I think you may have beat me to the punch on this one, but I am reposting this post to another one of your articles because it is also relevant to this article.

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Tyler, I know you have your own plan for what articles are important and what aren't.

But in my humble opinion the following results:

"05:14 PM EDT, 07/23/2015 (MT Newswires) -- Amazon reported Q2 sales of $23.18 billion, up from $19.34 billion in the year ago quarter and well ahead of the analyst consensus of $22.4 billion. Operating income was $464 million, a swing from a year ago loss of $15 million. Net income came in at $92 million, or $0.19 per share, up from a year ago loss of $126 million, or $0.27 per share."

and the resultant after-hours pop from $482.18 (at close) to approximately $564, a 17% increase, to a current quarter multiple of (.19*4/564) of approximately 764, up from a loss last year, is ludicrous. This announcement explained the complete Nasdaq 100 after-hours futures claw-back, as evidenced by the fact that neither AAPL and GOOG participated to the same degree in after- hours trading.

If there is anybody out there who still thinks Nasdaq 100 is not living on borrowed time, please let me know.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 19:21 | 6347188 koaj
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most of my business is a shipping operation. we have low staff and high volume. what amazon does with their Prime members and the two day shipping is nothing short of remarkable

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 20:00 | 6347292 Omega_Man
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things should get a lot cheaper in a few months... plus free shipping...,.. 

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 21:21 | 6347543 VW Nerd
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Lets look at some back of the napkin math.  Quarterly EPS of +0.19/share equals annualized earnings of roughly 0.80/share.  With a current price per share of $566, we have a PE of over 700.  This stock went up 18% today!!  Am I missing something??

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 21:35 | 6347598 Seal
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looks like AMZN has gone to  "a permanently high plateau"

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 23:07 | 6347655 bullybear
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Jeff Bezos is brilliant - more so IMO than that Musk guy. Consider:

1. Starts a company with a niche (books on low to no margins) and owns it. Proof of concept.

2. Expands that into every other consumer product on the same low/no margin plan to become THE online marketplace.

3. Uses the cash flow and investment capital to scale the biz to a point no one can compete with him. It's a scale + margin deathtrap to anyone who tries.

4. Knows he can turn the profits on at any time but instead invests in a complementary business with huge potential margins - cloud.

5. Has now scaled that business to be difficult to compete with - while every one else with the same infrastructure (FB, MS, Yahoo, etc) has it but only to host their own content.

6. So now the guy has the ability to monetize the tech infrastructure AND the marketplace. No else has done anything similar.

7. What's most interesting is his next play. Will he turn on the cash spigot or re-invest in the next market-leading sector? Either way, this guy is a horse you'd be foolish to bet against, IMO.

Thu, 07/23/2015 - 23:46 | 6347980 22winmag
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Maybe... but he should be pelted with rotten vegetables and cow pies in the public square over the stupid drone thing.

 

http://tinyurl.com/pgdy7nc

Fri, 07/24/2015 - 01:28 | 6348177 pitz
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Only problem is, the "we're not making profits because we're investing so much" is nonsense to anyone who knows about accounting.  The "investments" simply are not large enough relative to Amazon's size to generate sufficient write-offs to justify the losses in other aspects of Amazon's business. 

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 12:10 | 6371258 ArtOfLife
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Walmart has 5x the revenue and 6x the profits of amazon. Just saying.

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