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A Stunning Look At California's Historic Drought - From The Air
"Ugly brown rings where waves used to lap at the shore. Dry docks lying on desiccated silt. Barren boat ramps. Trickles of water." Those are just some of the disturbing images California's Department of Water Resources team saw in an aerial tour of Northern California's Folsom Lake, Lake Oroville and Shasta reservoirs released this week...
The dramatic aerial views timelapsed from just a year ago show the level of devastation already... and it's not about to get any better...
Click image below for interactive gallery...
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Ain't just CA, folks.
http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/
Here in Portland Oregon...we are having the most amazing summer that I can remember...We really had NO winter this year...The really good weather started in April....and every day is just amazing. Not bragging...just saying, Oregon is usually a very dreary state...and now we seem to have super long summers and no winters... Global Warming, El Nino, or just the way it is...I don't care. It is nice. The Facts for Portland Oregon. We usually have 13 days at 90 or above on average. This year we have ALREADY had 18. The record of 24 days over 90 degrees was set in 2009. We will smoke that one this year. And for you people from California...I am watering my yard twice a day. Na na na. P.S. Don't move here.
Portland is a prime example of a great city that has been over-run by the lowest, sickening, cultist, scumbags on the Earth other than ISIS, who migrated like cockroaches from California and the lib-tard scum have ruined a great city as well as a great state. I'm from there too and I will never live there again due to that fact. And that is a fact.
I am here in the trenches...I drive a HUGE SUV and have a HUGE TRUMP sticker on the back. Fuck em.
Hope you haven't got one of these!
http://www.shapeways.com/product/SCD3B2NJD/donald-trump-plug
Freedom Loving Oregonians; The state Government wants to put locater ID on your vehicles "to properly tax road use".
I'm a native Angelinao and in the 60's + 70's it was a fine place to grow up. "Jerry" Brown, son of former Gov. Edmund G. Brown has perpetrated a bond measure passed to tax the state for a "rainy day fund" of 50B, not that saving was ever the governments job, and is using the High Speed Rail money for low cost housing in San Francisco. Of course we have no chance. G_d help us all.
God? What if "God" is just a more technologically advanced life form, and we are simply a Cargo Cult?
What if's are rarely helpful, IMHO.
If we are the 'pets' of an advanced life form, the bastards have a sick sense of humour.
Same goes for any 'god'.
Somehow, evolution didn't remove 'Fucking Stupid' from the gene pool - just to be clear, not directed towards you.
Not your down.
Atheist Anarchists are the only way forward on this insignificant ball of rock.
>>>Atheist Anarchists are the only way forward on this insignificant ball of rock.
Good one!
If you read the fine print on the California rainy day fund legislation, you will know it is actually back-door funding mechanism to catch up on the unfunded balances of cushy government pension plans.
On California, Brown wants to pass one of those mileage taxes in lieu of the gas tax. The current proposal is written is such a way that if you drive a car that gets less than 20mpg, then you pay less tax than under the existing gas tax. If you have a high mpg or hybrid car, you are SOL. The Prius drivers are up in arms about it. Perhaps the truck driver's union is behind this one. ;-) Of course, being California, they probably won't get rid of the gas tax as promised. IN Oregon, I read that they are looking for 5000 volunteers to have the tracking devices attached to their cars so they can run a one-year pilot program before rolling it out to the rest of the population.
Ahh... aren't parts of the Olympic National Park on fire???
Rainforest aren't supposed to burn....
http://www.king5.com/story/news/local/2015/06/21/three-wildfires-burning...
Swamps burn if Florida, ever heard of muck fires?
God damnit prick!
The first rule of Oregon Club is...
We already have too many Californian pricks moving up.
PACIFIC DECADAL OSCILLATION, bitchez
Natural Climate change ( not man-made climate change ) + Too many "straws" in the ground = Consequences
Natural Climate change
Are you implying that the current chemical make up of the atmosphere, i.e % CO2 and % Methane, is a natural occurrence? We just kicked past 400PPM Co2.
CO2 concentrations haven't been this high in millions of years
Given the rapid rise, minus large scale volcanic activity, the finger points at fossil fuel production and burning. This simple fact should hardly be the subject of political and emotional unrest. But it always is. The methane now being released all across the high arctic tundra and arctic seas is unprecedented in human history. Natual releases are being caused by thawing permaforst and warming arctic sea waters. Again, it just a simple fact, hardly worthy of emotion. Never in the course of human history have so many gotten worked up over such simple measurements. CO2 and Methane is easily measured and tracked. The laws of physics say it must come from somwhere, so fossil fuel burning is the easily proven source point, as this too is easily measured.
"Climate change ( climate change ) + Too many "straws" in the ground = Consequences"
I agree 100% with this amended statement.
Even if CO2 doesn't warm things up, it acidifies the oceans.
Think of the disruption to food chains if shellfish can't make shells.
Food chain breakdown is a HUGE threat to humanity and many other species.
But on a brighter note, once humans become extinct the world will turn back into a really place to live!
Global warming expedition cancelled. Boat stuck in too much ice
http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/22/expedition-to-study-global-warming-put...
Unfortunately it is man made
www.geoengineeringwatch.org
Several videos down page speaks about how they have engineered the California drought
I don't get how Maine {or at least the SE} is abnormally dry given all the snow this past winter.
http://bangordailynews.com/2015/02/22/news/state/weekend-snow-secures-wi...
crazy amounts of snow... it's rained here and there... how is it abnormally dry?
Drought is cumulative.
Sorry....I'm an ex-Meteorologist....not trying to be an asshole.
I notice they didn't fly over any golf courses.
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of folks.
Fuck California. Let the Mexicans have it. Ooops..too late.
And yet they keep building moar houses. Moar, moar, moar.
And moar foreigners - H1b and illegal - keep pouring in and pumping out their idiot-spawn. Moar, moar, moar...
Perhaps we should start a referendum that no new commercial or residential construction can be approved unless the government also approves the construction of the necessary infrastructure to support it, such as freeways and reservoirs.
that sounds good but like in FL they will let the developers develop and stick the tax payer with the infrastructure bill.
Devastating.
It's all good. The Cascadia fault is a few decades over due, and when that sucker breaks there will be a two hundred foot wall of water over a good chunk of the Pacific coast.
Funny you say that.
So.....think about this for a moment. We have proven man made earthquakes due to Fracking, particularly in Oklahoma. Shallow faults, but still.....
There is some thought that as aquifers dry up underground that could lead to certain faults becoming weaker. Even the movement of water flowing from one place to another as water gets drained away up to the surface could lead to a break. There is already proof of increase earthquakes in places where glacier melt is happening because of the millions of ton of reduced weight on the crust.
So......could we see a similar thing happen as the underground aquifers drain away as the surface resorvoirs are also draining away. That's a lot of weight taken off the surface. And underground, you could make an analogy that as aquifers drain away it would be like you losing your cartilage between your bones. Things get brittle when that happens.
Just some food for thought.
I just seen another warning about that just today, not sure if it was the Cascadia Fault but the USGS issued a warning that the "Big One" will strike any day now. And if you look at some earthquake maps its been pretty active there the last few days.
Buy a boat before you get priced out for your lifetime!
Oroville was still holding plenty of water the last time I drove over that bridge in '13. Hopefully the geo-engineers will let it rain this fall...
Bang on! The "climate modifiers" are at it 24/7. If they have indeed achieved their objective of "total weather dominance", then their choosing NOT to let rainfall into CA would seem witting, deliberate, systematic, and highly successful. Hardly a day goes by in Nevada County -- not a thoroughfare for commercial or military aircraft -- when we do not observe the various kinds of chemclouding that goes on. And Gov. Moonbeam Brown (who went over to a much darker side) knows or should know this. He is complicit and if and when the perps are corraled, he best be among them!
The desert is normally dry, and there is only so much water you can buy.
buy cdzi water company
Withered out, bitchez.
So is it the global warmin' coolin' climate changin's that are coming to get me or is it the climate coolin' changin' global warmin's?
I'm left so confused.
Whether the climate is warming, cooling or doing fuck all, humans are making a real bugger of everything else on the planet.
Food chains disrupted - huge amounts of known carcinogens dumped on the food we eat - Fukushima making the world more radioactive (and remember, there's no safe dose of radiation - even background is dangerous)
Insane warmongers running the place.
Extinction event on the horizon.
Hope you find this helpful.
Bad news...
You're gonna die anyway.
Ice age coming. Gonna be plenty of water.
In the Mile High wall of ICE.
Oogah Boogah.
No, you're right.
It's Cali , so the drought solution is to raise moar global warming crap and trade taxes
Back in the 80's when I was in grad school, I told a physicist pal of mine how angry it made me to see prime SoCal farm land being paved over to build endless seas of McMansions.
"Don't feel bad," he told me. "In 10 thousand years you will never know people were ever here."
And then I felt better.
Let's let our favorite social and cultural gadfly George Carlin speak to that......
"The planet will shake us off like a bad case of the fleas."
"The planet is fine. The PEOPLE ARE FUCKED ! "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W33HRc1A6c
I wonder who gave you a down vote
Whats happening to the vineyards of Cali ?
Thats all that really matters!
The California Raisins
Amarone is made with grapes harvested late in the season (that have started to dry out). And it can be VERY good!
They're doing just fine! *hiccup*
I don't EVEN want to know what they'll sound like coming out the other end.
Drought makes for more concentrated grape juice, higher ratings by Parker and Wine Spectator, and $100+ per bottle pricing.
To a point, drought leads to high sugar content and really great wines..,
to a point.
Whats happening to the vineyards of Cali ?...
We’ve been producing quite well, thank you. From what I understand the drip irrigation technology developed by Israel has been pretty good at preventing our having to increase our water storage for at least the past 20 years or so.
That Folsom fiasco continues to nauseate me. NIMBY and pseudo ecology / protectionist mentality have created that particular insanity while the Shasta levels are still quite higher than when previous “Danger, Danger Will Robinson” alarms were set off.
No appreciable water storage projects have occurred in our state for over 50 years while our population has grown by nearly double and countless tens of thousands of acres of prime agricultural land has been added to the central valley.
Please stop with all the “California is a desert” garbage. True, there are areas that could be used for water storage in the Tehachapi and Central Coastal regions instead of San Francisco’s grasp and deluging of the 8th wonder of the world-Yosemite Valley2, aka Hetch Hetchy Reservoir as their source of pristine Sierra Water.
Our water problems are strictly political in nature as our current governor’s father’s name attests to on the state canal that bears his name continues to redirect Northern California’s resources to the moneyed persons responsible for his continued influence in Sacramento.
Jmho.
R u in central valley ?
I have an old friend in that region. I hope his vineyard is OK.
R u in central valley ?...
95209. No Cal / East Bay nearly 60 years. Great place to be From. There's a reason why it's called Central, it's the hub in the middle of the wheel.
Where else can a person wake up in the morning and by noon have lunch in Yosemite, Lake Tahoe, Reno, Napa / Sonoma, San Francisco, Santa Cruz, Monterey / Carmel, and a multitude of other destinations, (Shasta, Auburn, Oroville) to spend the remainder of the day at yet still be able to drive home to spend the evening / night?
Like so many other places, it's what you make of it, (only better). imho.
I would give you +100 for that last sentence alone.
Tejon has an enormous planned City eventually coming in. I worked with some people involved with the early stages of it before the last housing bust. East of the 5 North of Gorman. Which I think Tehachapi is directly East of here.
One thing not talked about is that some cities in LA County are putting in grey water piping, in the streets, to eventually go into a lot of this new construction. Its been planned for a while, yet I have never heard of this outside of meetings with CIty planners.
.....Quite obvious we need to import another 10 million or so illegals. Then maybe think things out....after the fact.
Let those fuckin commies and illegal spics drink dust!
F Them!
Looks like the commie-tards are out in force today after catching wind of my crowd pleasing non-conjured concensus, non-pc comments from yesterday.
Looks like they're padding the votes today.
Fuck you PC commies and fucck off illegals!
Those who aare offended, caan take your PC and shove it up yourr ass sideways.
Thank you
Planning?, Planning? - Shit man, there's NO money in planning.....A desert is a desert no matter how much water you divert to it...We're all amateurs on this planet!
And here in Texas we've had 4 feet of rain that have added about 40 feet of depth back to our lakes and reservoirs just in the last 2 months. So, maybe some god is punishing them and rewarding us. Or some evil cabal is control the climate. Or maybe, you know, weather.
Be careful with those boating accidents.
Drown you Mother Fuckers , err, i mean . . . .
fortunately, there's absolutely no health risk from Fukushima that is present and rising and most dangerous when it rains that CA has to worry about.
All they need to do is keep giving illegal immigrants drivers licenses, jobs, healthcare, K-12 education, and free ice cream, and sooner or later things will sort themselves out.
Free ice cream? I am jealous
You forgot reduced tuition cost for major universities, or more likely free. Cheaper car insurance . Basically can't be cited by the police, because everything is racial profiling here. Bank accounts with no id required. They are the super California citizen, with no laws to break, because there are no laws for them. Not to mention the quirky things the US will pay for, that Mexico charges for, regarding Mexican documentation. Back asswards.
I was promised an interactive gallery, dammit!
It rained enough for a Sox-Angels game to be actually rained out a few days ago...what happened to all that water?
Californians be gettin' greedy, yo.
agua agua por todas partes - pero ni una gota para beber
Boat prop sellers are ganna make a boatload of cash!
Shear pins are snapping as we type.
Hat tip to your avatar. Buffy my mama hen raised me numerous chicks until her untimely demise. I am still in the process avenging her death. I have Dominiques, Marans and Ameraucanas but the Orpingtons are are the best for raising a brood. Such sweet gentle dispositions.
After a hard day at the lab there is nothing more cathartic staring at my chickens during a quiet evening on our Mesa.
Miffed;-)
Golbal Warming/Global Cooling...it's all about the sun. And I believe the evidence and modeling for a coming Mini Ice Age is much better than that for "the oceans rising" and "climate refugees" - nations SHOULD be getting ready for crop failures and years much colder than normal...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7whL9jvdL5s
Welcome to the Grand Minima
you just might be right, nephew...
Let them drink cake.
Just like an infestation of ants.
There's still water in all those reservoirs. That's why they call them RESERVOIRS.
Let us know when they are completely empty, THEN they have a problem.
Too funny..the haters. This winter will be epic. The rain snow and waves will be intense. Sadly there will be mayhem too.
It seems the amount of metals lost in tragic "boating accidents" has been greatly exaggerated.
When the European settlers first reachedwhat is now California, they found the area sparsely populated. Turns out, the natives knew better than to live there in large numbers. The drought is nothing new for Cali.
The millions of Marxist morons living there now are, however. Sucks to be them - all the way 'round.
When the early European settlers where busting their nuts trying to reach the land that was to become the Golden State...notice they did not stop and settle in any state that they dubbed flyover country...for obvious reasons.
We need to get Steven Colbert out there with his Bald Eagle, sitting in a lawnchair overlooking one of those empty lakes pleading with people to only shower once a week, to conserve water.
Don't forget, they'll need to difacate on Police cars.
Triumph The Insult Comic @ Occupy Wall Street - YouTube
We just need to find a way to keep the Californians where they are. I don't want them escaping to my state to screw it up.
YUP.
I live in California.
Those lakes in the pix your showed - used to be incredibly beautiful 20 years ago. We were all DUMB and IDEALISTIC back then. We actually thought that our polictiians loved the scenery of this state. But the truth is ... the water policy says that all those lakes can be drained BONE DRY if it will help the farmers and the cities. In other words, no natural lake with an outlet gate (for drainage) has any environmental value. The water authorities will lliterally drain all of these lakes until they are dry ... to satisfy a thirsty population.
California should have stopped all subsidies on water 20 years ago. It should have gone free market. Desalination plants should have been completed at least 10 years ago.
We have a bunch of plump politicians who dream of being called "leaders". Most girl scout troops have more leadership capablities that these people!
The hippies dream finally fulfilled, No showers
California needed to put in serious anti-development regulations thirty years ago. Even in 1980 it was getting overpriced and overcrowded. Instead, in the world's greatest boon to real estate speculation ever, they passed Proposition 13.
You can't expect real estate speculators to self-regulation. Can NOT. They will fill your desert with thirsty mouths, golf courses and sprinklers for as long as you allow them to keep building. They don't pay for it; they use free money from the banks and stupid "investors", and then when the deals don't pay for themselves the LLC goes belly-up and the General Partner walks off with all the cash.
California does need to build UNDERGROUND reservoirs, like sensible ancient civilizations did in the Middle East. And desalinization plants. But more than anything, it needs to rid itself of at least 10% of its current population. I won't advise you on WHICH 10%, although I think preference should be given to families with four or more children.
Wesley Clark wants to put rain in internment camps.
true story.
BTW - regarding "chemtrails", er, I mean "persistent CON-trails" and the "weather".
They're currently spraying here in western Oregon on Tuesdays. At least that's what's been pattern in July.
Been watching it all month - obvious as hell if you care to look skyward - 2, 3 and 4 planes flying north and south visible at a time during peak hours of mid morning to mid afternoon. Trails over the Willamette Valley and Cascades - 10 to up to 20 at a time from north horizon to south horizon.
Oh yeah, we're having a great summer here. More to come I'm sure - at least until the aluminum (or whatever it is they're spraying - it is TOP SECRET you know) in the air we breathe destroys all our brain cells.
Have a nice day - - -
Vainamoinen
The money wasted by the FED keeping a lid on gold prices could have built 20 or 30 desalinazation plants by now.
In Carlsbad, the world’s largest desalination plant will go online in 2016, just in time for what is expected to be one of the strongest El Nino winters in the past century.
After enduring severe water shortages during a drought in the late 80s, Santa Barbara spent $34 million to build a desalination plant. It opened in 1991 and provided water for four months. When the drought ended, the city shut it down. Water from reservoirs and other sources was significantly cheaper.
Wonder what will happen with the mega plant in Carlsbad?
Come on, El Nino!
Even if it pours this fall we should start building desalination plants anyway, we need the capacity and the economics work, five or ten more like Carlsbad, for starters. Then if the drought returns, fifty more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0q4o58pKwA&feature=youtu.be&t=1m35s
Note to central planners and statists in general, don't fuck with mother nature.
It never gets old, "Ya see this? This is saaand."..lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylyts7L6Hwg
For the more refined...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0aFPXr4n4
The mexicans want it back; give it to them; they can't fuck it up any worse than the oakies & honkies and slant eyes did. There is somereal poetry in seeing them forced to drive East and North like the Clampits. Too funny. Real life has its moments.
We are about the have the wettest winter since 1997. Everyone knows it. The drought will be over in 5 months. It's all science, baby. Just google "el nino 2015".
We don't learn too well do we ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancestral_Puebloans
The period from 700-1130 CE (Pueblo I and II Eras) saw a rapid increase in population due to consistent and regular rainfall patterns. Studies of skeletal remains show that this growth was due to increased fertility rather than decreased mortality. However, this tenfold increase in population over the course of a few generations could not be achieved by increased birthrate alone; likely it also involved migrations of peoples from surrounding areas. Innovations such as pottery, food storage, and agriculture enabled this rapid growth. Over several decades, the Ancestral Puebloan culture spread across the landscape.
After approximately 1150, North America experienced significant climatic change in the form of a 300-year drought called the Great Drought.[citation needed] This also led to the collapse of the Tiwanaku civilization around Lake Titicaca in present-day Bolivia.[23] The contemporary Mississippian culture also collapsed during this period. Confirming evidence is found in excavations of the western regions of the Mississippi Valley between 1150 and 1350, which show long-lasting patterns of warmer, wetter winters and cooler, drier summers.
In this later period, the Pueblo II became more self-contained, decreasing trade and interaction with more distant communities. Southwest farmers developed irrigation techniques appropriate to seasonal rainfall, including soil and water control features such as check dams and terraces. The population of the region continued to be mobile, abandoning settlements and fields under adverse conditions. Along with the change in precipitation patterns, there was a drop in water table levels due to a different cycle unrelated to rainfall. This forced the abandonment of settlements in the more arid or over-farmed locations.[citation needed]
Nice cut and paste jibberish. What does the Great Drought of North America have to do with a lake in a different hemisphere?
Since the end of the last Ice Age....North America is becoming more dry and perhaps warm.
Cali has droughts. Cali has rainy years. In an overall drying out and warming for the last 10000 years.
Likely nothing to do with cars... another ice age would be much worse for most as they refugees would end up here in California.
According to this study, California is having the worst drought in 1,200 years. Since we all survived just fine and are about to have a strong, rainy El Nino winter, why all the panic?
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2014GL062433/abstract
"Cause it hasn't happened yet. Please note that in 2012 it became legal for the employees and agents of the United Dtates to lie to the general public if it was in the 'best interest' of the United States.
you went there. you totaly went there. (The supreme court ruled that the press and the public facing apartus of the US government are not obligated in anyway to actually tell the truth. reasons to not tell the truth do not need to rise to the level of basic threats to national security, para: only some douchebag with a LAS degree thinks it would be a fun experiment)
Large numbers of dead seal pups, more sharks further up north, hares showing up in Oakland's Lake Merritt, etc. . . If you watch the MSM (even the TV meteoroligists who know better), they will tell you it is an unprecendented historical "record" and all because of man-made global warming, but if you look up history, you will see it has happened before, during the 82-83 and 97-98 super El Ninos. I see it as a very hopeful sign for California's fall and winter. The sea life certainly is behaving like a massive El Nino is coming and they don't listen to the MSM. This doesn't hurt either: http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/CFSv2/htmls/glbSSTe3Mon.html,
and if you want to understand what those charts mean, here is a good write-up, starting under the Long-Term Forecast portion of the article: http://www.stormsurf.com/page2/forecast/forecast/current.shtml
Nice cut and paste jibberish. What does the Great Drought of North America have to do with a lake in a different hemisphere?
Since the end of the last Ice Age....North America is becoming more dry and perhaps warm.
Cali has droughts. Cali has rainy years. In an overall drying out and warming for the last 10000 years.
Likely nothing to do with cars... another ice age would be much worse for most as they refugees would end up here in California.
Unfortunately it is man made just not the kind of man made you are thinking of that the media insists it is. Here is the real reason for it.
Www.geoengineeringwatch.org
It's to much to type here just check the site
They built dams...to form lakes...for water...in the fucking desert.
That was the only "engineering" that was done or is being done...jeeezus. So what are you people saying, they are geo-engineering the fucking weather over Kalifornia so they can pick up desert on the cheap?
WTF.
What he said!
Jeez! Bunch of conspiracy nuts. Next they will write that WTC 7 was pulled!......uhm.....oh....that right....????!!!!
Yeah right after they rant & rave about fucking holograms timed to pre-planted nanothermite exactly where the motion picture director said the craft needed to hit in order to make it look real and then.............fucking truther silence.
Just like voice-to-skull (voice recognition software for those who are unfamilar with my indictment of fucking truther moonbats) which was apparently pre-programmed into Verizon communications before the planes took and which was ABSOLUTELY useless once DIFFERENT staff (stewardesses) and passengers came on board AT THE LAST MINUTE.
Go fuck yourself...stay on topic.
The first whites into Kalifornia crossed desert to get to the Pacific.
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Uninformed idiots will no doubt wonder why I'm being downvoted for saying "They built dams...to form lakes...for water...in the fucking desert."
Such is the state of commentary on ZH these days. Or was it because someone threw something off topic into the mix?
The un-idiots can be the judge.
Seems to me that some folks are doing ok selling small lots for 5X the real value.
I beat em anyway. I bought a chunk of desert that was already a desert. I like the desert. If the water goes away, so will I because it's not too smart to hang around in the desert with no water.
Nmewn the 911 truth denier also denies the obvious truth about chemtrail geoengineering. Why am I not surprised?
The uber-truther hysteric, Clashfan, switching over to her original account when addressing me, why am I not surprised. So tell me Clashie, they blew up TWO skyscrapers in order to "pull" the real target, WT7, is that you're final NEW position?
The Rabbi, oh The Rabbi.
Kiddie fiddler!...lmao!
Yes I'm saying they are GeoEngineering the Fucking weather did you go to the link above or are you incapable of doing that
The Obama administration is geo-engineering the weather, over California (and the desert SW). Have you come to any sort of conclusion as to WHY they would be doing this, as its a...ya know...desert?
No I did not go to the link, I'm tired of chasing phantom rabbits of all kinds, now I just shoot holes through them on sight.
You can thank truther hysterics Clashfan etal like for that ;-)
I'm getting thirsty.
SH
I'm getting thirstier
SH
Does anyone remember the California Energy Crisis? Quoting paragraph one of the wikipedia article:
"The California electricity crisis, also known as the Western U.S. Energy Crisis of 2000 and 2001, was a situation in which the United States state of California had a shortage of electricity supply caused by market manipulations, illegal shutdowns of pipelines by the Texas energy consortium Enron, and capped retail electricity prices. The state suffered from multiple large-scale blackouts, one of the state's largest energy companies collapsed, and the economic fall-out greatly harmed GovernorGray Davis's standing."
... is it possible the exact same thing is happening right now with the "California Water Crisis" .. perhaps motivated by the opportunity to consolidate the ag businesses in CA after "Creative-Destruction-ing" them and then acquiring at fire sale prices via a contrived water crisis?? What if there is no drought?
Yep, I could tell they were photoshopped
My tin foil hat's as well worn as anyone's, but in this case there's no conspiracy. If you drive around the state as much as I have over the last year, it's pretty obvious the lakes are lower and lots of farmland is going brown. Unless they've been pumping water into an underground water tank the size of Lake Tahoe, there's a drought.
Maybe they are pumping it into the ocean or selling it to nevada on the D/L or something? I'm not an expert, but it's my understanding most lakes in cali are managed, i.e. people control the water levels in the lake either by dams or by inputting water to the lake. Perhaps these people are in on the scam.
And for what it's worth what I'm saying is more of a "what if" .. not saying I necessarily believe it. I just think the parallels to the energy crisis in 2000-2001 are striking, water and power are very similar industries - public utilities.
I was reading on the wiki page for the energy crisis that the net profit from the scam was somewhere around 40-50 billion. . a lot of cheddar. I don't remember a lot of people getting busted either (ken lay?) ... they got away with that scam, why not pull another?
you cali types better watch "chinatown" then you will know who to blame: noah cross ..la water co. life imitates art. even to flushing water out to sea for the" children" er fish...no for money.
Don't look down. Look up! Could it be the elephant in the living room?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ_Mqo3t_c4
Just wait till the resovoirs are dry and see how much shiny metal is lying on the bottom, all lost in boating accidents.
They say it never rains in Southern California. Seems I've often heard that kind of talk before.
This has been going on at least since the 60's, man.
It was in the 70's that my Earth Science teacher told us we were heading for another Ice Age.
I'm reading in the La La Times this morning how they expect a major El Nino condition that could bring record rainfall to Kali this fall and winter. The concern is that the effect won't go far enough north to build up the snowpack in the Sierras. To quote:
"Most of the water from rain in Souther California winds up in the ocean."
So I'm wondering WTF is so difficult about setting up a system of small dams and levies to divert and capture some of that water. LA already has the useless LA river and Sepulveda basin. Use them to capture some freaking rain water. Alas, Brown's head is stuck too far up the butt of special interest groups much more interested in profiting from the construction of the bullshit train.
The LA River has been mostly a sewer since time immemorial, but a project to clean it up is supposed to finish this year, at which point much of the water could be captured - except, where do you PUT it? If we create several large new lakes up in the hills or mountains that would be great, but just pumping the water up there costs nearly as much as just desalinating plentiful ocean water in the first place.
Some amount of SoCal rainfall has been put in spreading basins to replenish ground water for some time, but that is not a large amount, not sure how much more could be done there.
You can make more plans about capturing rain, but what it comes to is desalination costs roughly the same, so why bother? And it seemed we had no reason, the Sierras and Rockies did a great job of funneling thousands of square miles down to places where the water could be grabbed, and still at sufficient altitude that it flowed downhill to SoCal, making the transport very cheap. Well, demand has grown, supply has shrunk. Desalination seems the answer for all the coastal cities, no matter what else is also done.
And actually, even in the drought, more rational water use in agriculture would leave us with a marginal balance. Well, can't really count on rationality, so we'd better find some more supply. Desalination is the answer for the cities, but for more agriculture (read: extremely cheap) water, that's still something of a problem.
And with all the abundant free energy in the future along with building and staffing them for free, we could build a lot of them.
Everything cost money and energy, it's a matter of accurate comparisons.
Urban water prices need to triple, which will still leave them very cheap.
Do you have any idea what you pay now for a gallon of water out of the tap?
El Nino rains are warm. Sometimes called the pineapple express. Still a lot of water flows.
El Nino rains are warm. Sometimes called the pineapple express. Still a lot of water flows.
CrazuBob.. I assume thaat civil engineering is not your fortay.. How much CAT stock are you playing with (Peoria loves you)?
I blame The Weather Channel.
Not the same since without Kristina Abernathy.
Did you notice the lack of cloud cover? Let's explain how mother earth extracts the simple process to return water.
How does rain form? - YouTube
Come on now! Folsom Lake is too small to mention here. Folsom Lake can rise up to 4" just from the beer drinker pee after a nice summer weekend day. You should have mentioned/shown Trinity Lake instead. Here's a few links for lake status to keep you straight:
http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/reservoirs/RES
http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryDaily?BER&d=23-Jul-2015+18:16&sp...
The reason that Trinity Lake is so low is because they have been intentionally releasing water for temperature control of the Sacramento River.
http://northtrinitylake.com
Fuck you Obama, you couldn't have attended High School if not understanding this fact regarding the environment.
Not a fucking cloud in the sky. All these years, then mandating EPA restrictions to emit clown car water vapors back into atmosphere to manage a process.
You are a negro president without a clue. I hope you talk about Gays in Kenya. Perhaps you will meet to a Means to an End.
https://www.englishforums.com/English/WhatDoesAMeansToAnEndMean/crdvm/po...
Drought in a fucking desert? No Way, how can this be? Who coulda seen that coming
Another 10 or 15 million illegals will fix er right up, along with cap and trade, and all sorts whining about it. Gee, if they had invested in desalination plants over the last 20 years or so instead of buying votes from the FSA, wonder how the water situation would be?
With desalination plants, then there would be another issue to deal with which is the following: Brine has extremely high salt concentration and also contains leftover chemicals and metals from the treatment process which poses danger to marine life (dummies are apparently just dumping it all back into the ocean, the worlds dumping ground I guess besides LA, Chicago, NYC, Detroit and more.. However; Halliburton has a solution to that problem; hide in their fracking formulation.
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Minor problem compared the the one coming within the next 72 hours to 72 days as judgment begins to reign down on US for out gross immoralities and lawlessness.
Obama should of stayed in Kenya, hanging pink curtains in the village community huts. Calling the success to public works advancement to society. Little does this Negro know...
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In Marxism, the term infrastructure is sometimes used as a synonym for "base" in the dialectic synthetic pair base and superstructure. However the Marxist notion of base is broader than the non-Marxist use of the term infrastructure, and some soft infrastructure, such as laws, governance, regulations and standards, would be considered by Marxists to be part of the superstructure, not the base.
That ain't nothing. If you don't know now, and I don't yet, it would be good to study futures contracts because the solar minimum is upon us. Famine is coming bigtime.
Are atmosphere is shrinking. The same shit happened on Mars. Keep promoting Climate Change. That way, we can rebirth mother earth, not the wackos printing counterfeit money to engage in fraud and deceit.
The larger picture was everyone to convert to the battery operated car which emit vapors from the McDonald's straw exhaust pipe. Once your driving around in a climate safe government approved clown car, they begin taxing you on milage.
No clouds, no rain. Drought prevails. Start farting, they'll install a methane monitoring device to tax PPM asshole dispensing violation.
These stupid fucks think they're GOD.
it's called climate change, and co2 has very little to do with it
there was never such a thing as static climate
CO2 has nothing to do with it but everything to do with trees and plant life ...
6 CO2 + 6 H2O + SUNLIGHT -> C6H12O6 + 6O2
Photosynthesis...
Looks like an opportunity of a lifetime....
To do maintanance on the bridges and dams....
Everybody will freak out and then, just like texas in one month....
Woooosh its all over and people are bitching about flooding and crying because the fuking farmers should have taken more of the water so their little fake ass land scaping didn't float away.....
Chears!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've been to the desert on a horse with no name
it felt good to be out of the rain
in the desert you can remember your name
cause there ain't no one for to give you no pain.
heroin my ass.
I remember the song A Horse With No Name..
It my memory, never been a song as lame.....
They cashed in on Young's Heart of Gold fame
Should have sued them,, but back then Neil was feeling no pain
La, la, la, la,la la la
,,,have another toke,,,la, la,la.
Takin' you down to Browntown. Come visit CA today!