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Has The Land War Begun: Turkish Tanks Are Firing Into Syria
Update, from the horse's mouth: Turkey admits 4 tanks entered Syria to use something called a "retaliation right":
@zerohedge to prevent false infos, i must say just 4 tanks get through to use retaliation right.
— Lit.Col.Kenan Winer (@harunayanoglu) July 23, 2015
After Monday's tragic terrorist attack in the Turkish town of Suruc, just across from the Syrian border and kilometers away from ISIS-controlled Kobani, which left dozens dead in what authorities claim was due to an ISIS-linked 20 yhear old suicide bomber, hostilities have dramatically escalated in the past few days culminating with news that one Turkish soldier killed and one was wounded in border province of Kilis by gunfire from Syria, according to state-run Anadolu Agency reports.
According to the Guardian, "one Turkish solider has been killed and another wounded in clashes with Islamic State across the Syrian border, a senior Turkish official said. The clashes continued as the Turkish army returned fire on the militants in Syria. Earlier, a Turkish police officer was shot and killed and a second wounded in the mainly Kurdish city of Diyarbakir. Violence along Turkey’s 560-mile (900km) border with Syria has spiked in recent days, beginning with a suicide bombing blamed on Isis in the town of Suruç on Monday. The Diyarbakir shooting came a day after two police officers were killed in an attack in Ceylanpinar on the Syrian border claimed by militants from the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK)"
Bloomberg added that Turkish forces returned fire across the border, killing an Islamic State militant, and thatt clashes across border region continue, Anadolu says in story published at 5:08pm Istanbul time.
Then DHA reported moments ago, that Turkish Armed Forces have begun shooting into Syrian territory. From DHA, google translated:
Event today at 16:00 as the Turkish Armed Forces are massing his time occurred in the border line. Isidor's control of the territory in Syria opened fire on the soldiers at a time. The soldiers also reciprocates by conflict.
Isidor first opened fire from the region, one non-commissioned officer killed, while four soldiers were wounded. The wounded soldiers were brought to Kilis State Hospital for treatment. Increased security measures at the border on the event.
And indeed, as the following clip from Turkey's DHA news agency shows, one may wonder if NATO-member Turkey's land invasion of Syria, which many have said was long overdue following months of rhetoric and belligerent posturing, under the pretext of ISIS "liberation", has just begun.
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Turkey had always been at war with Syria. Now it becomes official
The following examples show the extent of Turkish involvement in the war on Syria:
–Turkey hosts the Political and Military Headquarters of the armed opposition. Most of the political leaders are former Syrians who have not lived there for decades.
–Turkey provides home base for armed opposition leaders. As quoted in the Vice News video “Syria: Wolves of the Valley”: “Most of the commanders actually live in Turkey and commute in to the fighting when necessary.”
–Turkey’s intelligence agency MIT has provided its own trucks for shipping huge quantities of weapons and ammunition to Syrian armed opposition groups. According to court testimony, they made at least 2,000 trips to Syria.
–Turkey is suspected of supplying the chemical weapons used in Ghouta in August 2013 as reported by Seymour Hersh here. In May 2013, Nusra fighters were arrested in possession of sarin but quickly and quietly released by Turkish authorities.
–Turkey’s foreign minister, top spy chief and senior military official were secretly recorded plotting an incident to justify Turkish military strikes against Syria. A sensational recording of the meeting was publicized, exposing the plot in advance and likely preventing it from proceeding.
–Turkey has provided direct aid and support to attacking insurgents. When insurgents attacked Kassab Syria on the border in spring 2014, Turkey provided backup military support and ambulances for injured fighters. Turkey shot down a Syrian jet fighter that was attacking the invading insurgents. The plane landed 7 kilometers inside Syrian territory, suggesting that Turkish claims it was in Turkish air space are likely untrue.
–Turkey has recently increased its coordination with Saudi Arabia and Qatar.
more at:
https://consortiumnews.com/2015/06/25/turkeys-troubling-war-on-syria/
And Turkey doesn't mind a few atrocities,,,,,,,
Uhhmmmm is the USSA still vs Syria or is it vs Turkey, or is it vs Turkish Kurds?
Which side is Israel on now?
Follow the drones!
We must be ready as a nation to stand by our Turkish allies, should they need assistance in their operations against Isis. My heart goes out to the innocent Syrians who are caught between Assad and his use of chemical weapons, and ISIS with their extreme form of Islam that in no way represents the beliefs of the average muslim. On the one hand, we must continue to wage war against terrorism in the Milddle East and fight for stability and peace in the region, but at the same time we must be careful not to succum to Islamaphobia and extreme nationalism. We need to work together with our allies to achieve our strategic goals in the Middle East, while fostering a culture of tolerance and multiculturalism at home.
Rock the Casbah, Turkish style.
Sing along with the Clash:
We really don't like them,
let's rocket the casbah,
rocket the casbah.
The only way to beat the usurious joo is to embrace the Muslim in any form. Long live ISIS!
World War 3, the last war of the modern age.
This looks almost serious enough to crack the MSM lineup. Almost.
"thinks its not Kosher"
Rocket the casbah
RIPS
Cry... HAVOC! and let slip the dogs of war... (use best Klingon accent while reciting...)
https://youtu.be/LmrbiX9__wM?t=1m4s
So this is how WW3 starts...
Seriously Tyler? The Guardian? Bloomberg? Why not just check with the Jerusalem Post or Times of Israel?
Your article reads like Turkey is defending itself against ISIS! That's f'king CRAZY - they're haboring ISIS and directly (not covertly) supporting ISIS with personnel, supplies, vehicles and ammuntion. ISIS WOULD CEASE TO EXIST WITHOUT TURKEY - never mind the U.S. clownfuckery. You should be a little more excited about how close we are to WWIII.
Exaggeration? The Turkish government is God damn evil incarnate, but Turkey is a member of NATO and Turkey hates Assad. Turkey, for all practical purposes, is the U.S. (and England's - to some degree) NORTHCOM for their Syrian Topple-Assad War. Everything was going as planned until some pissed off Rojava Kurds showed up. Oh, did I mention Russia, China, Iraq and Iran are not particularly fond of ZATO's latest lame-assed scheme to invade Syria?
Rojava (Syrian or Western Kurds) don't have any oil or anything else. Their scratch farmers. They were going to be the sacrifical lambs in Turkey's invasion of Syria via ISIS. A funny thing happened, though. The Rojava Kurds started kicking ISIS ass - out of Kobane, out of Tel Abyd, and most recently out of the entire canton. The Rojava Kurds have always held on to a portion of Northwestern Syria in the Afrin canton. If the Kobane and Afrin regions are connected, almost the entire Turkish border in Syria will be in Kurdish control. That's SYRIAN land under Kurdish control. Turkey doesn't have a God damn thing to say about it - it's none of their business.
Note the Rojava Kurds are not fighting Turkey - they're mostly just trying to avoid being slaughtered by them. But linking to two Kurdish regions would threaten to cut Turkey's supply lines to ISIS. The Kurds have the yellow areas on this map. See the grey areas? That's how Turkey get's shit to ISIS and al Nusra, and they're going full-retard that their ISIS/al Nusra supply lines are going to be gone if the Kurds continue to kick their ass.
In your article, Tyler, you're parroting the ZATO bullshit about a non-existant Turkish-ISIS conflict - a lie that is being spewed specifically to justify a Turkish incursion into Syria to keep their ISIS/al Nusra supply lines open. At the expense of ten thousand or so dead Kurds. Do you seriously not see the fact that the Guardian and Bloomberg stenographers are creating this fake conflict for public consumption?
Where the fuck is your outrage that ZATO member Turkey is openly supplying ISIS and is willing to 1) invade Syria to keep supplying them and 2) kill as many Rojava Kurds as necessary to keep their supply lines IN SYRIA open for business?
And while this drama plays out in the North, you can be sure that Israel is planning their next Syrian/Lebanese land-grab in the South.
Let them eat Gilik?...
http://rarehistoricalphotos.com/turkish-official-teasing-starved-armenia...
jb
+1
One of the best posters on ZH. The skateboard dude and the guy with the Spinal Tap avatar are good too.
Tsk, Haven't you heard? We're post-modern now and who knows how screwed up that'll be.......
In breaking news: Oceana has begun firing over the border into Eurasia, the ground war has begun!!
"Oceana has begun firing over the border into Eurasia, the ground war has begun!!"
Uhmmm, helloooo! We've always been at war with Eastasia, errr, I mean Eurasia!
Off to my Two Minutes Of Hate now. Will I see you there?
Makes me glad our borders only have a few hundred illegal Hispanics flooding across every year. Tanks?...................No tanks!
Turkish Tanks...........
Please don't tell me they're sending their womens into combat, man.
common root, and ISIS created by the former, what the hell are you expecting again?
Interest free loans of Muslim-bucks.
Move to Seattle
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07/23/local-and-commuity-leaders-ac...
"The only way to beat the usurious joo is to embrace the Muslim in any form. Long live ISIS!"
Idiot troll, ISIS is born of Langley and the Mossad.
ISIS=Israeli Secret Intelligence Servicehttps://youtu.be/E9ubCPIHrPQ?t=161
Secret Pentagon Report Reveals US "Created" ISIS As A "Tool" To Overthrow Syria's President Assadhttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-23/secret-pentagon-report-reveals-...
Report: Israel treating al-Qaida fighters wounded in Syria civil warhttp://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Report-Israel-treating-al-Qaida-fighter...
Exclusive: Israel Is Tending to Wounded Syrian Rebelshttp://foreignpolicy.com/2014/06/11/exclusive-israel-is-tending-to-wound...
WATCH: IDF soldiers treating wounded Syrians on Israel borderhttp://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.632418
Tapped communications confirm US is supplying ISIShttp://www.zerohedge.com/comment/reply/510250/6345494
America Supplying ISIS, according to Iraqi MPhttp://anonhq.com/america-supplying-isis-according-iraqi-mp/
The U.S. Trained ISIS in 2012 – Vehicles, Arms, Ammunition Supplied – WAKE UP!!!http://beforeitsnews.com/terrorism/2014/06/the-u-s-trained-isis-in-2012-...
Obama Admits: 'We're Training ISIL' - ISIS HOAX - WOW!https://youtu.be/HNxON6X9NJQ
John McCain Circa 2013 “We should arm ISIS” Read more: http://bluenationreview.com/john-mccain-circa-2013-arm-isis/#ixzz3gjVonUev John McCain Admits He’s “Intimate” with ISIS https://www.facebook.com/TheAntiMedia/videos/365027576955617/
Senator John McCain’s Whoops Moment: Photographed Chilling With ISIS Chief Al-Baghdadi And Terrorist Muahmmad Noor!https://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2014/08/13/senator-john-mccains-wh...
Yep, we knew Obama, saudi and isreal would find another excuse to invade syria and oust assad. It's all about their dream of a gas pipeline to europe, to harm russia. ISIS is a cia invention designed to be that excuse.
“Greater Israel” or “Greater Khazaria”?
"Divide and conquer is an age-old strategy for empire-builders. Drive your opponents to fight among themselves, then pillage and subjugate them. Josef Stalin successfully employed this method in World War II, with the fawning complicity of Winston Churchill and Franklin Roosevelt. Now the Zionists—and their American lackeys—are doing the same to establish Israeli hegemony throughout the Middle East and North Africa. And it was long planned. But is the intention merely for “Greater Israel”—“from the Nile to the Euphrates,” as Theodor Herzl proclaimed—or is this the first step toward a world empire we should call “Greater Khazaria”?
In 1982, the World Zionist Organization’s Department of Information, their propaganda arm, published “A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties,” by Oded Yinon. This “Yinon Plan” has been followed for decades by Israel in order to establish “Greater Israel.” ... "
http://americanfreepress.net/?p=19547
China Rejects the US-Saudi-Israeli Plan For the Middle East
"THE YINON PLAN LIVES ON
Named after Israel’s minister of foreign affairs at the time of the 1982 invasion of Lebanon and occupation of Beirut, with about 25 000 dead, this divide-and-rule geostrategy plan for the MENA (Middle East and North Africa) lives on. ..."
http://21stcenturywire.com/2013/09/05/china-rejects-the-us-saudi-israeli...
<-- MillionDollarBonus_ is a Troll
<-- MillionDollarBonus_ is mercifully free of the ravages of intelligence
MDB is a beloved troll. He provides us with endless satire - and his posts are satire.
Indeed! MDB writes satire that shows up the foolishness of policies that Banks, Market Makers and Nation States carry on. His satire cuts right to the core, and should be obvious to most.
MDB is a serial satirist, leg puller and ZH institution who has once again neatly summarized the Obama admins' talking points for camp followers of the Left..
I always give him greens for his straight faced recitations...
I'm still amazed at the number of Righties who go off in a huff when he posts instead of LAUGHING...
MDB is a sarc monster.
Stfu. You are a sheep. Go drink some fluoride you friggin moron.
Million Dollar Bonus gets off on throwing gas on the fire. It is harmless enough. Those not familiar with this particular individual may at first be taken aback by its comments. After a while though you realize it just probably ran out of firecrackers to put up cat's asses, so it trolls Zerohedge for entertainment.
Timur knew best: he razed Baghdad and Damascus to the ground, dragged away useful artisans to his capital, while slaying every man, woman, and child, and building towers of skulls. He threw the Turkish sultan into an iron cage and kept him as a pet. Then he went to Moscow and did more of the same. He planned on gracing China with his brand of statesmanship, but had a stroke along the way. As Edith Bunker sang,
"Those were the dayyyyys!"
You are a Kool Aid dispenser.
And you apparently are an empty vessel...
Looks like Million Dollar Baby is back....the Obama troll par excellence....
That was the best BS story I have heard all day!
Dang, MDB! Your posts make me feel like I'm reading O'butthole's teleprompter.
Nicely done.
Lessons From My Teleprompter
MDB +1 another classic
What planet do you live on??
So when do the collected works of MDB go on sale? I'd like to send the 2016 Presidential candidates some fresh material just to see if any of them would use these narratives it in a speech.
"We as a nation"
HUH? The Fuck?
No. When are YOU going to grab a rifle and put some boots on if YOU want to do something about it? Maybe you can see if your buddy John McCain would like to tag along.
Fuck you for demanding that my countrymen and my taxes go toward fighting and dying and wasting the wealth of my country on another ground invasion. I already did two of those and to my fellow Americans: I am incredibly fucking sorry, but I was young and naive at the time. Please forgive me.
It's getting a bit confusing. Who are they shooting at- Assadists, PDK, PKK, IS, AQ, or Khorasan?
Crossing borders to kill Kurds is kinda a tradition in Turkey so this could just about the two cops killed after the recent bombing.
Sure is exciting watching history repeat
Looking forward to Brian Williams "embedded" coverage...
who do you think was driving that tank?
Hillary 2016
https://www.google.com/search?q=dukakis+tank&espv=2&biw=1120&bih=633&sit...
Armenia..,.
It's been 100 years. Always remember the first step in the genocide was the disarming of the Armenians. coughConnnecticutcoughNewYorkcough
*cough*falseflag*cough*
And what would be wrong with genociding New York Americans and Connecticut Americans??? We could take out the big banks and the hedge funds both. Plus then I would never have to hear about that fucking ARod again.
This is most likely a smoke screen and cover for Turkey attacking Assad or Kurds. I doubt they are hitting ISIS since they have been harboring them and supplying them for quiet some time now.
Turkey played a major role in the creation of ISIS:
ISIS: The jihadist movement stamped “Made in America”For three years, the US, along with the Gulf states and Turkey, poured billions into “opposition” groups, supposedly to unnamed “moderates,” but in reality to Al Qaeda-linked Sunni groups such as al-Nusra and ISIS to spearhead a sectarian war. The US, Turkey and Jordan have operated a base in Jordan where US instructors trained dozens of ISIS members. In an article last year, the New York Times confirmed that the CIA assisted Arab governments and Turkey by airlifting weaponry to these groups in Jordan and Turkey. The Guardian reported last March that British and French instructors were also involved.
Other ISIS members were trained near Incirlik Air Base near Adana, Turkey, where US forces are based. After completing their training, they went to Syria and later Iraq.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07/30/isis-j30.html
AND, Putin is very supportive of Turkey. Syria/Assad are just the latest friend of Russia/Putin. Well, not the latest, there is EUkraine and Yemen.
Putin and Russia better send Syria some Metis and Kornet anti-tank missiles to insure Turkey stays on theri side of the border.
Excellent post!
Many Turks are angry over the ISIS bombing because they accuse Turkish leaders of supporting ISIS by the back door. Using ISIS to create conditions favorable to Turkish policies. It is a known fact that anti Assad Jihadist Armies have been armed and trained in Turkey, and have base camps there. ISIS gets many recruites direct from these camps. Videos and photos showing direct peaceful talks between Turkish military and ISIS in Syria exist. Taken right at the border.
Wth? a repeating segment of a military vehicle on fire constitutes proof of an invasion?
Modern media is retarded
That is what I thought...a 7 second clip repeated over and over...REALLY??
one tank to conquer them all!
Be glad they didn't say it was a Russian tank on the outskirts of Kiev.
same clip to be used.....in due time...
I dont think it's on fire.
I think that's diesel exhaust gases.
The video is a joke, just like this story.
So what team do we route for? Or do we just sit back and watch? I can't keep the teams straight as the constantly change.
Must raise crude prices. Just fucking shoot something said every Shale investor who wears "I buy into tops t-shirts".
LOL!!!! The "land wars" never really ended...
Great. Another pointless war that does nothing but make corrupt rich men even richer. How long till the marines are there? I give it till christmas.
I love the smell of dead jarheads in the morning.
Go fuck yourself.
I don't like any wars because banksters and the elites are always behind them.
The saddest thing was seeing mothers and wives trying to stop the evil Kiev junta from drafting their men.
American kids and parents at least have a choice. Anyone who let's their kid go die for these evil elites has personal responsibility.
I love the smell of dead jarheads in the morning.
"I give it till christmas. "
October?
I'd rather talk about the Angie Merkel lesbian love scene.
Me too!
"I'd rather talk about the Angie Merkel lesbian love scene."
Is that when she offered her endorsement of Hillary?
Syria, Lebanon, and Iran are the only countries in the world actually putting boots on the ground to fight the Wahhabi Salafist wackos who want to exterminate every minority in the Middle East (except, conspicuously, Jews.) America would realize it owes those three nations a profound debt of gratitude, if they weren't a bunch of inbred knuckledragging counsinfucking hillbillies.
Look at the bigger picture, all the state actors and non-state actors are useful idiots for the long game.
Will this be a teevee war with big explosions and Tom Brokaw narrating? I hope so. Don't show anybody getting blown to pieces though, my kids aren't ready to stomach that while they are eating. Just show the cool stuff.
This will be a TV war with Brian Williams going hand-to-hand with Assad. And PROPERTY OF CNN fans blowing the leaves of palm trees...indoors.
I think Williams is a general now
Well the Turks helped trained what is now known as ISIS, as well as the Jordanians, complcit with American knowledge and backing. How many Muslims and Christians have ISIS killed? There won't be no land war, or invasion. It is not our goal. We want to weaken ISIS and Assad at the same time and will periodically and covertly arm the side in danger of losing. This civil war of sorts will go on well into 2017.
The leftists in DC love Assad
Assad has blonde British Christian wife and children. Assad took in many Iraqi Christians who fled to Syria for freedom when the USA invaded Iraq.
I bet you didn't know that.
Its the part where the jews tell us that they klled the muzzies for us and now they have to kill us for the muzzies to balance our karma that I'm having difficulty with.
Everyone in DC loves Assad. The MIC needs a punching bag that doesn't scare the shit out of them, like Iran does.
If we wanted to weaken ISIS, then why did we arm them in the first place? It seems the goal all along was to destabilize the region and lure Iran into a direct conflict via a proxy war with Syria and forcing them to honor their mutual defense treaty. The question now is, will Assad make welcome the Turks or repel them. I don't think the Turks will stop with ISIS. They'll go strait after Assad and the mainstream media will try to tie ISIS to Assad. People who have been paying attention will find this laughable.
ISIS could be stopped dead in its tracks very easily. Just destroy the limited supply routes from Turkey. No food, fuel, ammo, other than what can be looted locally. Then bomb the shit out of them when they grind to a halt. That this is not done speaks volumes about the US relationship to ISIS. It is clearly a US proxy doing whatever the US wants done.
You're kidding right? There are so many smuggling routes through Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan. How many landing strips do you thnk there are in the desert? That area has been a smuggler's dream for centuries. These are Sunnis, many of whom in Iraq were high officials in the former Iraq Army and power structure.
Only the sheepies never knew that Turkey was always involved, just like UK, Quatar, Jordan, Saudi, izraHELL and USSA.
ISIS ia an ameriKan izraHELL adventure, supported by all of the above.
A Korean War Vet once told me that if he could choose one army to fight along side with it would be the Turks.
When I was in Vietnam the one army I would support the most is the ROK's.
It's been happening for over a month already. Turkey would rather have Kurds than ISIS. You can only sit on the fence for so long. Great to see someone else burning gun powder than just the US. This is what happens when the US backs off. The other countries in the region have to take responsibility for themselves. About fucking time.
Get out of Iraq. Get out of Afghanistan. Trillion$ $pent for NOTHING.
Don't forget what happens when the brave israeli freedom fighters back off..... lol.
Why would Israel waste it's ammo on Muslim on Muslim violence.
Why is roadhazard so confused?
israel gives medical assistance to wounded ISIS soldiers. Please for the luv of GOD, think before you type.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-23/has-land-war-begun-turkish-tank...
lol, you go ahead and believe all that tripe you want. It's the ZH way.
Just the opposite. Turks would rather shoot Kurds than ISIS.
Will Iran get involved and honor the mutual defense treaty with Syria? Will Assad welcome the Turkish tanks claiming "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"? Does this play into the hands of the military industrial complex to destabilize the region and lure Iran into a direct conflict via a proxy war?
What about the United Nations? Can't they tell them to stop fighting? Isn't that why the UN was created? /s
The UN was originally created to protect the sovereinty of individual nations... to prevent nations from invading each other like Hitler did in WWII. See the UN charter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Charter
even simpler: the UN "works" only if the US, Russia, China, France and the UK can agree on something. otherwise, there is a veto, period
Been that way since the start of the NWO UN
I keep wondering how a pissant little state of psychopaths has so much power in the UN, flaunting all laws.
Lets see, Assad took in lots of Iraqi Christians who fled to Syria for freedom after USA invaded Iraq in 2003.
Assad is married to blond British Christian wife . Assad is a Doctor.
However, the West says he gassed his own people (proven to be total Bullshit) But the Sheeple always believe the first LIE and run with it, even after its debunked.
On another note. ISIS can parade around in broad daylight with New Toyotas and white nike shoes beheading people (allegedly) but USA's drones can't seem to hit them.
Instead they target wedding parties somewhere in the mountains of Afghanistan or Pakistan.
ISIS =CIA/Mossad
We have the photos of McCain meeting with ISIS, don't they show them on USA media?
They don't show them up here in Canada where I am.
Last month Israel launched its sixth airstrike inside Syria in the last 18 months, which is described as a ‘targeted killing’ against Hezbollah, whom Tel Aviv maintains is backed by their sworn enemy Iran – which leader Benjamin Netanyahu claims, affords Israel the right to kill them at any time, or any place. Back in 2013, the Assad government in Damascus invited Lebanese Hezbollah militia into Syria to help eliminate terrorists in Syria, and now the uncomfortable reality is finally surfacing – that Israel has been picking off Syrian military and Hezbollah targets who are trying to fight-off ISIS, al Qaeda and al Nusra terrorists – which means that Israel is actually helping ISIS.
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the UN report identified what the Syrians label a crossing point of forces between Israel and ISIS, a point of concern brought before the UN Security Council. – See more at: http://yournewswire.com/un-proven-ties-between-isis-and-israel/#sthash.d...The UN report identified what the Syrians label a crossing point of forces between Israel and ISIS, a point of concern brought before the UN Security Council.”
According to the United Nations Documents on UNDOF (official UN source) Israeli interactions with the Syrian rebels have been documented. If the international community were to pull-up Israel on this fact, they would do what Washington, Saudi Arabia and others have done – which is claim they are only dealing with the fictional “moderate rebels” – most of whom have been shown time and time again – to be defecting over to ISIS.http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/02/19/un-report-reveals-how-israel-is-co...
https://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2013/09/16/resurrecting-israel-did-911-al...
There is strong evidence to support the idea that the US armed ISIS when they fled into Syria. Back then, they were "moderates" fighting against Assad. This was not openly reported and was even denied early on but the CIA did arm them, trained them, and Panetta later admitted to arming them.
The US does appear to be attacking ISIS now, or at least uses ISIS to justify the attacks inside Syria. But have they really gone after ISIS or are they just trying to destabilize the region. Evidence suggests the latter as ISIS is now well armed, and continues to sell oil openly on the black market (if they were serious, the first thing they'd do is cut off their funding). By picking off a few at a time, it only stirrs up the hornets nest and pisses them off even more. Even Frontline has reported that so called "moderate" rebels in Syria are now leaning on the side of ISIS. They are getting stronger, not weaker.
The sad truth is ISIS was non existent until we started arming them. This may come back to haunt us.
The US also "appears" to be a Republic.
"But the Sheeple always believe the first LIE and run with it, even after its debunked."
The fools believe the subsequent lies, also. Lie after lie after lie...
Injured ISIS members are being treated in Israelis hospitals and those black ISIS flags are made in Israel.
Again, not reported in American PRAVDA.
Wake me up when Kerry warns Putin to stay out of the area...
The Turks, bless them, have no idea who was actually firing at them. "ISIS" is a label for state-sponsored Islamist mercs.
There are probably 2, 3, even 5 or 6 ISISes.
And surely, Israel has significant input and direction, even if CIA, that out of control criminal organization well overdue for a civil war, nominally runs these guys.
The Deep State is ZOG, through and through.
Kneel!
Kneel before ZOG!!!
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War Profiteers: Victoria Nuland and Co. Making Money on Endless Wars
http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150721/1024894225.html
Far More Despicable Than Treason.
https://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2015/07/01/far-more-despicable-than-treason/
The atrocities committed by the terror group ISIS are so horrific that a high-profile al Qaeda member, an American citizen, purportedly addressed the group directly in a new al Qaeda publication and lectured them that if they keep it up, Allah will not grant them paradise in the afterlife.
“My dear brothers: While no one can deny the considerable strength and prowess of the Islamic State group [ISIS] in military terms, at the same time, the crimes it has committed against Muslims cannot simply be overlooked or forgotten with time, because in Islam there is no statute of limitations,” the late Adam Gadahn said, according to an al Qaeda magazine published recently online. “And if these wrongs are not brought to an end and rectified here in this world, then a severe punishment has been promised both for those who committed them as well as those who encouraged, condoned or justified them, even if from behind a computer or mobile phone thousands of miles away.”
http://abcnews.go.com/International/american-al-qaeda-isis-paradise/stor...
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"Adam Gadahn's real name is Adam Pearlman, and he is the grandson of a board member of the ADL! Pearlman had been reported killed in 2008 then (following more of his videos) he was again reported killed in April of this year. But you can't keep a good hoax down, and while calling him "late" in this article, it appears that the undead Mr. Pearlman is once again stalking the news wires!"
- http://whatreallyhappened.com/
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Seeking War to the End of the World
Exclusive: Despite the disastrous Iraq War, neocons still dominate Official Washington’s inside-outside game, government policymakers coordinating with think-tank opinion leaders to keep world tensions high and money flowing to military projects, a process personified by Robert Kagan and Victoria Nuland, says Robert Parry.
https://consortiumnews.com/2015/07/19/seeking-war-to-the-end-of-the-world/
"Much of this “strategy” is personified by a single Washington power couple: arch-neocon Robert Kagan, a co-founder of the Project for the New American Century and an early advocate of the Iraq War, and his wife, Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs Victoria Nuland, who engineered last year’s coup in Ukraine that started a nasty civil war and created a confrontation between nuclear-armed United States and Russia.
Kagan, who cut his teeth as a propaganda specialist in support of the Reagan administration’s brutal Central American policies in the 1980s, is now a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and a contributing columnist to The Washington Post’s neocon-dominated opinion pages.
On Friday, Kagan’s column baited the Republican Party to do more than just object to President Barack Obama’s Iranian nuclear deal. Kagan called for an all-out commitment to neoconservative goals, including military escalations in the Middle East, belligerence toward Russia and casting aside fiscal discipline in favor of funneling tens of billions of new dollars to the Pentagon.
Kagan also showed how the neocons’ world view remains the conventional wisdom of Official Washington despite their disastrous Iraq War. The neocon narrative gets repeated over and over in the mainstream media no matter how delusional it is. ..."
Obama's first foreign act was to bow to the King of Saudi Arabia and appologize for US aggression.
Obama leds a coalition to bomb and protect Lybian citizens and the country falls to terrorists.
Obama does nothing to protect what has ended up being 300,000+ lost lives in Syria, opens to flood gates for ISIS opening pandora's box.
These events aren't coincidence or lack of foreign strategy, THEY ARE PART OF HIS STRATEGY.
Not Obama's strategy he is just a dumb mulatto monkey, He is puppet of the neocon ZioNazis.
BTW, I worked for Libyan govt 2002-2003 and still have friends in Libya Its now a total hellhole and dangerous.
They also told me that the 'rebels'' that the USA supported would have been routed within 24 hours if not for the NATO bombing.
Photos below. even some I took covertly at Sirte.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b7h6bqkvl46q7vj/AAD3yL68363n_qDF2qacfuXta?dl=0
What the US did to Gaddafi and Lybia were crimes against humanity. Form what I understand, Libya was not a bad place when Gaddafi was in power. He seemed to really care about the people. I have no first hand experience, but what you say coincides from what I understand. Which one in the pics is you?
this one is me
https://www.dropbox.com/s/k6s94ai3kw39eyd/AIRCRAF3.JPG?dl=0
Hey I am curious about the hats the two gentlemen are wearing in ZANSOU41.JPG
I appreciate the pics. Looks like you fit in very well in Europe which makes a big difference IMO.
Nice stewardesses, looks like they old way of picking attractive women.
The hats??? everyone was drunk , we were having a party. party hats.
Our stewardesses were Russian and Moldovan.
in that photo the girl second from right was killed in 2006 in that crash in Afghanistan. She got a job working for another VIP outfit when she left us. Very sad because she was a truly nice woman.
Thanks. Sorry about your friend.
Looks like an interesting life that I would have enjoyed from just that snapshot collection.
Piloting look like they were a great career choice for freedom, status, and not have people looking over the shoulder like in an office or big org or wage worker.
Our boss (the owner of the aircraft) was a Beirut based millionaire (billionaire) businessman, Ali Hijazi. He had a fleet of VIP aircraft and also owned a diamond mine and 5 yogurt factories in Africa. He was Muslim but a kind man who paid us handsomely. We stayed at all 5 star hotels in our travels and he paid for everything (EXCEPT if we ordered PORN films in our room). He never said anything about the drinking. To give you an idea of his generosity, once we had a flight to NYC for a UN conference. He came to us in the cockpit before we took off and handed each of us an envelope . I opened it up and there was 2000 Dollars CASH . He winked and said ''Enjoy New York''.
He was also instrumental and worked with CIA to get the hostages freed from Tehran in 1980.
I particularly like the "Bag of Weed" photo
hahaha, that was in Bangui , Central African Republic. Captain bought that from some kid for 5 US dollars. Funny thing was when he looked at the kid awestruck, the kid said 'Whats the matter, mister''. Is that too much?
hahaha, that was in Bangui , Central African Republic. Captain bought that from some kid for 5 US dollars. Funny thing was when he looked at the kid awestruck, the kid said 'Whats the matter, mister''. Is that too much?
hahaha, that was in Bangui , Central African Republic. Captain bought that from some kid for 5 US dollars. Funny thing was when he looked at the kid awestruck, the kid said 'Whats the matter, mister''. Is that too much?
haha, I fit in well in Europe? Could be because I am European. Ex American,
all our stewardesses were multi lingual a requirement for the job. (also good looking).
Cockpit crew all had to be multi lingual also.
Captain was Venezuelen, CoPilot Belgian, me Dutch
Captain spoke French, English , French is required if flying in Africa.
Copilot spoke both French , English and Dutch
And I speak Dutch, English and German (we used to fly a lot to Berlin and Bonn and Paris.
all our stewardesses were multi lingual a requirement for the job. (also good looking).
Cockpit crew all had to be multi lingual also.
Captain was Venezuelen, CoPilot Belgian, me Dutch
Captain spoke French, English , French is required if flying in Africa.
Copilot spoke both French , English and Dutch
And I speak Dutch, English and German (we used to fly a lot to Berlin and Bonn and Paris.
The Saudi King hated Ghaddaffi because Ghaddaffi called him a stupid monkey at an Arab Summit. it was funny.
Read this link when you have time. Ghaddaaffi did great things for Libya
http://www.globalresearch.ca/libyas-water-wars-and-gaddafis-great-man-ma...
I watched once local documentary about him. They said before his rule country was like 80+% illiterate, after he took power numbers basically switched opposite. Also, when you wanted to start some business, for example farm, you would receive goats from the country etc. When you married, you would receive one time gift from the country which I think was around 10000$(or 1000$ not sure anymore). Oil for a car was like few cents and many more things.
Anyway after I saw that documentary, I realized he was a great man and most of those accusations were lies. And I agree with him, saudies are compare to him savage monkeys.
Used to pay 20 cents for a gallon of gas there.
What used to surprise me is that Ghaddaffis ministers who we flew around a lot , always wore US flag pins on their lapels.
Libya was all for the war on terror after 911.
But in December of 2010, Ghaddaffi announced he would be selling oil in Euros and wanted to create a gold backed Dinar.
Well, you know the rest of the story.
CIA went into Ben-Ghazi, always a hot bed of snakes in the grass (according to my Libyan friends in Tripoli) and started stirring the pot.
While working in Libya I got to see first hand how their democracy works ,Its called the Jamariyah. each neighborhood and region had its elected senators and reps and met every 3 months for 4 or 5 days. There they would do planning and hash out things. The only person who they couldn't criticize was Ghaddaffi. For the rest, Libya was quite free, safe and I could do what I wanted and go where I wanted. Never saw weapons.
Now, according to my friends in Tripoli, everyone is scared shitless because the crazies that took over and all are armed and shoot people at will. He says everyone locks them selves in house at night.
The Saudi King hated Ghaddaffi because Ghaddaffi called him a stupid monkey at an Arab Summit. it was funny.
Hi DutchBoy2015, appreciate much those photos (47.6mb), thank you! I do enjoy your many posts incl. those on exotic stories at A. Madison hack ... :-) cheers and beers!
Fully agree that the fate of Gaddafi and Libya were sealed off when he decided to sell oil in euro and threw out his idea of gold-backed dinar creation for the North African union... this man was naive for doing those moves in the absence of any serious nuke head deterrence, he should have learned the text book methods of the Empire of Chaos (borrowing the terms from Pepe Escobar) after being so many decades in power! His dumbness triggered the release of The 'hellbound' Terminator...
"While working in Libya I got to see first hand how their democracy works ,Its called the Jamariyah..."
Mentioning on the freedom n democracy jargons, I suggest you and all serious ZH readers to spare some 20 minutes to watch this really fascinating TED video on:
Eric X. Li: A tale of two political systemshttps://youtu.be/ebXA1lRqDfM
Is Syria in New York State or Jersey?
What is ISIDOR?
Also, I thought the Kurds controlled Kobani after bombing by the USA?
Why let a crisis go to waste? I am sure they sent their own guys in there to fire on them... or some israeli stooges then run away. Turks want to fight with the Kruds as well as Assad.
Hard to believe any report coming out of there from any source. There's usually much more going on under the surface than above it.
BLOWBACK. Classic.
Poor Syria. Maybe they should just call Lloyd and Jamie and tell them to send in their boys, hook up their siphons and find a local coke dealer.
Maybe then they could catch a break.
Thank goodness the CIA has not lost it's touch for false flag attacks. Good one for the spooks
Turkey, along with other NATO countries and GCC have been supporting ISIS/ISIL/Daesh, employing the philosophy that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. It was only a question of time before ISIS turned on Turkey. The US/NATO war theater now extends from the Levant, to Caspian Basin, Persian Gulf, China Sea, Indian Ocean, Horn of Africa, the Maghreb, Eastern Europe and Russian border. This may well be the beginning of WWIII.
If it "is" WWIII beginning, how would you see the sides "lining up"? I'm just curious of opinions here. It's just not clear to me who would be the proverbial "Axis" or "Allies" in this one.
USA/UK/Israel Axis of Evil. BRICS are the righteous ones now.
USA/UK/Israel Axis of Evil. BRICS are the righteous ones now.
USA/UK/Israel Axis of Evil. BRICS are the righteous ones now.