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Furious Coal CEO Lets It All Out: "Obama Is Nation's Great Destroyer"
Murray Energy CEO Robert Murray, who spoke to Republicans at the Lincoln Day Dinner on Wednesday, is "righteously mad" at President Barack Obama, who Murray says is to blame for the downturn in the coal industry.
The President, you see, is on a "bizarre personal and political" quest to destroy not only the coal industry, but the entire country and according to Murray, "radical environmentalists, liberal elitists, [and] Hollywood characters" aren’t doing anything to help the situation.
And make no mistake, this isn’t about money for Murray, this is all about the people. "Mr. Obama's actions are a human issue to me, as I know the names of many of the Americans whose jobs and family livelihoods are being destroyed," Murray said, adding that "these Americans are my employees."
Or at least they were his employees. Murray laid off 21% of his company back in May, with the majority of the cuts coming in West Virginia, which is staring down a $195 million budget gap thanks to the slide in coal prices.
Murray believes these job cuts are the fault of the Obama administration and, thankfully, he’s got some concrete arguments to support his contention that the President is colluding with Hollywood characters and certain "contributors" in an effort to "get control of the availability, reliability and cost of electricity."
from SNL:
[Murray] said President Barack Obama's administration has issued regulations that illegally bypass the states and their utility commissions, the U.S. Congress and the Constitution in favor of putting the U.S. EPA in charge of the nation's electric grid. Murray, speaking at a Republican gathering at the July 22 Lincoln Day Dinner, touted his company's four lawsuits being brought against the administration's Clean Power Plan, an effort to rein in carbon dioxide emissions.
Murray continued, saying that the coal workers affected by Obama's policies are among the highest paid in the regions where they live, but also have no one to sell their homes to when they lose their jobs.
"Thus, these people are prohibited from working and fall to the negative side of the economic ledger for the rest of their lives," Murray said. "This is not the America that I have always cherished. Well, I am obviously not giving up. Nor should you. We have the law, science, economics, cold hard energy facts and the Constitution on our side. Our cause is right. It is right for the coal industry and our communities and America. … We must continue to do whatever we can to overcome the insanity of our current government."
Murray goes on to say that the scope of EPA guidelines on coal boarders on the absurd. In support of this contention, he cites the fact that the agency's regulations are 38 times longer than the universally accepted standard for modern enviornmental law - the Bible: "EPA regulations alone total 25 million words, 38 times more than those in the holy Bible."
So who, you might ask, can fix the problem?
Well, Abraham Lincoln for one, but because that seems unlikely, Murray says West Virginia Republicans will have to do. Here's SNL again:
The CEO's plan to fix the problems he says fall on the shoulders of the Obama administration is to elect more Republicans. Calling Abraham Lincoln, the namesake of the event where he was speaking, the best president in U.S. history, Murray said Obama was 'by far, the worst.' In 2014, West Virginia's House and Senate both flipped to a Republican majority after decades of Democrats holding control of both chambers. Murray said the Democrat-led state Legislature provided 'huge opposition,' and he specifically called out some Democrats, including former Senate President Jeff Kessler, former House Speaker Timothy Miley and State Sen. Michael Romano, who was elected to represent Harrison County in 2014."
Murray said with Democrats out of the way in West Virginia, the Legislature was able to proceed with needed coal mining, tort law and other legislation. However, he said there is unfinished business in the form of changes to lower the coal industry's tax burden in the state.
"Currently, the coal industry accounts for 7% of the gross business product of the state, but our industry pays 60% of the business taxes in West Virginia," Murray said. "Oil and gas producers are not taxed to this extent. Relief must be given to the coal industry as our coal cannot compete with that from other states, all of which have lower coal severance taxes, or none at all."
Finally, Murray says that "most coal companies are cash-flow negative and many are approaching financial default. The result is that we will see the greatest restructuring of the coal industry in its history." In this regard, things haven't been all bad for Murray who, while laying of 1,400 employees has simultaneously spent at least $4.6 billion (enough to pay the annual salaries of 54,120 West Virginia coal miners, according to data from the National Mining Association) in the past two years acquiring competitors.
In any event, not everyone thinks the blame lies solely with Obama. Bo Webb (who is admittedly biased given that he's a campaign director for the Appalachian Community Health Emergency Campaign) suggests that Murray should blame cheap and abundant natural gas and by extension, free market forces: "Murray is not dealing with reality. It's not the Obama administration or Democrats. It's capitalism. It's the free market. It's that simple."
You decide.
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"Consensus isn't science BTW."
That part always leaves me stumped. Okay then, what would be science?
Yikes. If you're under the impression that a circle jerk of idiots all patting each other on the back is science, then I'm only left with casting pearls before swine and there's no point in trying.
win
Thank you. You're good to admit it.
I thought he was a pretty good singer, but who the hell knew he was a prophet!
https://youtu.be/nNlMzNUDM8s
Wake me up when Manhattan Island is under water.
I'm right this minute in the eastern-most Maine county with open sea across the street. Temp at 8:30 a.m. July 26 is 56 deg F. Winter temps often are below zero. I don't think the ice north of here will be melting anytime soon.
"...consensus estimates..." Says it all.
"Currently, the coal industry accounts for 7% of the gross business product of the state, but our industry pays 60% of the business taxes in West Virginia," Murray said.
Right, becuase the only other industries in WV are meth production and servicing hoverrounds.
Whats the other 93%?
Trailer park maintenance.
And dentists specializing in extractions?
what does a teenage girl from west virginia and the unibomber have in common?
wait for it..................................
they both got fingered by their brother,............
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Complaining about overriding the states at the Lincoln Day Dinner. Irony.
Nice
*golf clap*
Yes, Lincoln, the WORST President ever, who unilaterally decreed that membership in the union is no longer voluntary, resulting in hundreds of thousands of dead in the War Against Southern Independence. The anti-federalists were proven correct.
Secession is the only political solution in the time remaining.
http://leagueofthesouth.com/
http://freeflorida.org/
It's time to end this bad experiment.
Be careful what you wish for. The people are too stupid and the leadership too corrupt to come anywhere close to something that keeps people in liberty.
Coal minning is the reason we have these environmental problems. It's archaic and very dirty to the environment.
I am sure to Murray, Australia's Abott is a saviour.
meh.... Obama the Destroyer, he is as much of a pawn to the banks as any man, the idea that Obama charters the worlds direction, or even his admins, is laughable at best.
Destroying the rule of law is a choice he made, personally. A pro American president would not have set us on this particular course toward outright tyranny.
The last President who attempted that, got shot in Dallas.
JFK and his brother did weaponize the IRS and DOJ politically, so there is a little bit of similiarity in kind, but none in scope. Obama has politically weaponized the federal government branch by branch, to the maximum extent he can get away with, as fast as he can get away with.
While I agree that coal mining is archaic, it's still the second cheapest and efficient source of fueld for energy (behind Thorium), and good luck making anything out of steel without it - like solar and wind farms.
Thorium will never be developed, it's a dead end street. Thorium is a non-fissile material that has to be transmutted into Uranium 233 to become a fissile fuel...the Nuclear power industry has been a technical and economic disaster around the world...it's over.
No, the nuclear industry has recently been very well run. A great example is the Bruce Nuclear station in Ontario. It's the largest nuclear plant in the world. It's privately operated. They sell power for 6 cents per kWh, and built into that cost they are refurbishing ALL the reactors. Refurbishing the reactors is more expensive than building new reactors.
A properly run nuclear plant is far cheaper than any other source of power except hydroelectric.
They can refurbish all they want, what are they going to fuel it with??? Uranium deposits have almost been exhausted, Finnish Nuclear engineer explains, you will not see this info anywhere else.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSQdB3myW9M
The japs claim to be able to extract uranium from seawater at 1000 dollars a pound.
Im not buying this Uranium is depleted lie. Uranium is not scarce and its use is measured in thousands of tons a year, rather than the billions of tons of steel. And virtually all the energy is still trapped in the leftover waste.
But the industry should die anyway. If privatized, insurace against meltdowns alone would kill it.
This facility is used for something different system. It is advertised as laser isotope separation system. To prove that the original isotope separation systems, there is a problem, big problems.
The system did not work properly. Due to our global background radiation is 10- fold. Fukushima ion clouds moving mass destruction. There is a need to change the whole technique quite new. And this is the United States laser production of "work"! It was found as early as 2007 CERN experiments. The access was supposed to be a laser over the exquisite shell structure the device was required to achieve 90% of the intake of secondary benefits. CERN autumn 2007 the pilot said intake 8 into. Someone 12% which was obtained uranium recovered from what was supposed to be. So, this also failed completely! But when all the old isotope refineries are already EXPRESSLY ALL fission explosions! But this now that the nuclear industry is now such a huge crisis. Whenever isotope refineries explode. Now all the uranium / plutonium becomes ion plasma. A plasma gas and evaporates into the upper atmosphere,Accumulates to rain down over nuclear plants. Systematically destroyed all the world's isotope refineries. And no one would dare to tell these absolutely nothing!" -Arto Lauri
Oh good grief, another depletionist.
If reserves recoverable at up to 260 USD per kilogram of uranium are included, the amount of worldwide reserves increases from 5,404,000 tonnes to 6,306,300 tonnes,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_uranium_reserves
If the Nuclear Energy Agency (NEA) has accurately estimated the planet's economically accessible uranium resources, reactors could run more than 200 years at current rates of consumption.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-long-will-global-uranium-deposits-last/
Do us all a favor and just STFU. You dont know what you're talking about.
Wiki and scientificamerican, are you fucking kidding me...maybe you need to shut the fuck up.
Oh ok, so you're going to rely on your opinion while telling me to STFU.
IOW, you shot the message delivery system of something as routine as historical mine production and estimates of consumption while asserting you're right with nothing other than a cock in your hand and one in your mouth.
IOW, you have nothing and proved me right that you haven't got the foggiest fucking clue what you're talking about.
It'll of course be VERY easy for you to prove me wrong. All you need is one credible source that says uranium mines around the world are shutting down because there's no more ore. I'll wait, if for nothing else than to laugh at you when you fail to do so, you blithering fucking idiot.
The balls are in your mouth skippy. It's on you now, spit or swallow.
Okay cowboy, I'll post this one more fucking time.
- Finnish Nuclear engineer Arto Lauri explains, you will not see this info anywhere else.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSQdB3myW9M
Okay Indian, so that's a no, you dont have any data on Uranium mines shutting down wholesale. Just whatever the hell your 25 minute video says that I'm really not interested in watching.
I didn't think so.
Yes, I actually do have the data.
Oh ok, I guess you just want to prove me wrong by keeping it to yourself.
0_o
Oh I see now,
Pickleton
Just a squirrel trying to get a nut.
I dunno who the software developer is that maintains this site, but good lord dude, YOU FUCKING BLOW! I'd like to hire you to clean my toilets.
Oh I see now, you thought posting my biography somehow made you right about something completely unrelated.
Oh, I'm software developer and have been for about 20 years (and I happen to recognize the NUMEROUS issues with this site's operation.)
In my experience, that usually makes me smarter than the VAST majority of the people I come into contact with and, a little price is right fail horn here, that includes you, dumbass. Oh and of course there's that whole ridiculously high salary thing so...
So no, you may not suck my dick now, no matter how good you think you are at it. BTW, if your panties are all rusty, maybe you should try wiping that funky pussy better, or try douching, and you wont have all those stains.
Hahaaahaa right
Oh noes!!, the cretin doesn't believe me. My whole world is destroyed. I can't go on. *sniffle /rolls eyes.
Thanks for playing. Any time you wanna post that uranium mine closure summary, get back to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSpqObhK4Rw
hey there top 10% income smart ass designer faggot, what you doing now with all that money...replying to me lol
- website just went down, can you help me out??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0mwT3DkG4w
We don't make steel anyway.
Coal isn't the only problem but certainly one of them. Otherwise, I agree with the Obama statement, you are exactly right - a pawn to the oligarchs so he can become one of them (he hopes). That's what he meant by "Hope and Change" - I, Obama Hope to Change my status and you the Merikan idiots can help - and we did. The next Preidenst will be more of the same, much more. But, hey, at least we have The Donald to save us becaue why? he's rich, he's really rich! and he "will do various things very quickly" as he summarized his speech and campaign last week. What a nimrod he is. Unfortunately there is only one way to fix this and thats to take the country back - Merika has to show the world that power can be overthrown - we did it once, can we do it again?
Nothing against them (c.f., the Scots, or just recently, the Greeks), but just a 20 min drive to work, or a quick visit to the grocery store indicates that the answer is, unfortunately, and unequivocally, NO. However, bloated, stupid, and comatose systems of centralized organization and control do often fail, and in a quick and spectacular fashion.
I wish we could do it again but it's not going to happen. Many reasoons, but the first is that the majority of the population is young and public-schooled (of the ones who went to school here...the others are from "outside" and don't give a crap). 'Nuff said?
partially free ain't free
Obama is a puppet, Murray. Wake up. ZWO Agenda 21 on full display here.
How much more destruction will it take before people get the pitchforks out?
When Fuckbook, The Lardassians, and EBT go permanently offline.
Never going to happen; each successive generation stupider than the previous....for many reasons.
Bypass state laws? Since the coal industry has owned state legislation for over 100 yrs, what would you expect? The only good thing about coal is the stored up energy inside. It may provide jobs ( historically some of the worst ever!), but it destroys mountains and rivers, pollutes water and air, and extracting it generally kills everything around it, either immediately or over a period of time. It is time to put coal mining out of the earth's misery.
And before I am attacked as a libtard/commie/pinko, present an argument that contradicts what I said. One with basis in reality. Shit, even China is waking up to the poison that is coal extraction and burning!
Fuck this guy and his hubris!
So, nuclear it is then.
Well, that, and it contributes 50% to the current electric mix (but the Environmental Pollution Agency is doing its very best on that issue).
So you are committing to reduce your electricity consumption by 1/2, right?
Didn't think so.
- Ned
But my Tesla has Ludicrous Mode.
Brawndo is a hellacious electrolyte source for batteries, scro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr-grdspEWQ
Dutchboy--I've got it! You are Leo's illegitimate offspring!!!
And yes, I did watch the video, all the way to the end where the duuuude was quoting an old, dead, white, German half-rate philosopher. I was a young piglet when the (old, I might add) video started. How are things working out 3 years later?
That's 48 minutes of my life that I'll never get back.
- Ned
[interesting that all kinds of projects, including solar in the Mojave, get blocked by environmentalists including DiFi and SanFranNan, because they are placing mother Gaia into shadows and she doesn't really like that, yet the proposed Gigawatt floating farms will block sunlight from the plankton and really fuck up photosynthesis and therefore lead to increases in odourless, colourless plant food]
My consumption is completely from solar at my house ( with about 10 gallons of gas a year for my generator). But just keep answering your own questions, Ned.
I'd bet, with the entrenched resistance removed, that if we weaned ourselves from both coal and nuke, over 5-10 yrs, that human innovation could make up for it. Nat gas would be the bridge, but mostly what is holding things up technologically is battery technology. The other huge part of the equation is improved efficiency combined with less conspicuous consumption. But many of the commenters here are mostly about themselves and their comfort, and could give fuck all about anything else.
Ned: "So, Ned, where do you live?"
Ned: "I live in New England"
Ned: "How does photo-voltaic solar work in New England?"
Ned: "Well, it basically sucks. It never has taken off except during the Jimmah Cahtah administration and now during the Obama administration."
Ned: "Why is that?"
Ned: "Because the sun don't shine in New England for more than 50% of the time, on average. And only the Cahtah and Obama administrations have been stupid enough to subsidize this technology."
Ned: "Whoah there, only 50%?"
Ned: "Well, actually it is worse, because the primary greenhouse gas also gets in the way. You know, the one that contributes from 40 to 60%"
Ned: "What are scientists doing to improve on that 50% number? And what can we do about that primary greenhouse gas?
Ned: "It turns out that only God can improve on that 50% number. Since many scientists (Knuth and others excepting) don't believe in God, there is not a good basis there for communication. Besides, it would be unfair to the rest of the world to be in the dark for 100% of the time (and no, I'm not talking about sub-Sahara Africa).
Ned: "And the greenhouse gas? What can we do about that?"
Ned: "It seems that the preferred approach from the Audobon Society, the Sierra Club, the folks doing the Project 350, and others of that ilk is quite straightforward."
Ned: "Stop teasing me, what is it?"
Ned: "It is so-called 'population control' -- that is, kill off significant percentages of the world population."
Ned: "Whoah again! What is this primary greenhouse gas? Is it Sarin? VX? Chlorine?"
Ned: "No, it is actually water vapor that we see as clouds. I know, I know, vapor isn't a gas, but we're dealing with a population taught by the NEA, so no problemo."
Ned: "Bbbbbbbbut we've always been told that it is carbon dioxide that is the culprit."
Ned: "Yep, and CO2 only contributes about 4 to 6% to the so-called greenhouse effect."
Ned: "How did photo-voltaic solar power work this winter in New England?"
Ned: "We had just over 3 meters of snow in total this winter. We were hip deep in snow on the roof several times. The snow evidently blocked the solar collectors. I said 3 meters vs. 120 inches because Lincoln Chaffee is spot on as the best Democratic Presidential Candidate and I want him to win the nomination."
Ned: "One final question. Do you give a fuck about anything?"
Ned: "Ned, I'm just a tiny little piglet, I haven't really gotten around to that stuff yet."
Ned: "See ya around."
Ned: "I'll be right here."
Well done Sir Ned, LOL !!!
I just gave myself a reddie, cuz whenever I argue with Mrs_Meat or myself, I always lose ;-)
I've just seen the photos of our Maine summer-neighbors' snow this last winter. Wicked!! Solar panels here are not recommended in all balanced articles I've read.
Someone has cut the power to your upvote tool!
The method of production and use of coal is no longer an environmental issue. The safeguards and pollution controls put in place in America has taken that lie away from anyone informed on this subject.
In China their pollution controls are shit and coal is an environmental problem, to compare the US and China in this issue is like comparing an environmental retard like yourself with Albert Einstein.
Yes you are a "libtard/commie/pinko". Better add facist too.
Coal production has been cleaned up considerably. Certainly not perfect though, but lets look at options. Nuclear where you still have to mine the ore and then the sites will continue to glow for 100,000+ years? Wind or solar aren't working nearly early as well as hoped. Hydro and geothermal are too geographically limited. Gas requires alot of drilling and all those pipes. So that leaves burning wood, but oh no that rapes the forest and its so stinky that EPA is working to ban it. Bottom line is each area will use the energy type(s) that makes sense.
So yes you libtard/commie/pinko/facist/totalitarian, stop drinking the Kool-Aide of the big enviro groups. Their leadership's agenda is Agenda 21 not saving the earth (I've worked with them and know this to be true).
Also Mr. libtard/commie/pinko/facist/totalitarian/useful-idiot, do the earth a favor and kill yourself. You are exhaling too much CO2. If you continue selfishly betraying the earth mother goddess/demon, don't fret, the NWO has plans to massively reduce the planet's population so its all good. I'm sure you will agree (and pass the Kool-Aide. Hope its cherry).
Their leadership's agenda is Agenda 21 not saving the earth
And they've admitted as much in many a news story. Kill capitalism and replace it with marxism.
So I do realize the coal stacks have scrubbers and burning is more efficient. But the coal still carries a lot of toxic by-product. Where does that go?
the "by-products" get scrubbed. Then sequestered. [edit--there are union jobs here in the transportation of "bad" things with huge and lengthly "protocols" to "protect" the workers. My fave is stuffing odourless, colourless, plant food deep, deep, deep I say into Mother Gaia's body.]
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You are a libtard/commie/pinko. But apart from that yes you are correct.
Understand that we will mine every lump of coal on the planet, destroying everything near and a lot of things distant, to keep the wheels of industry turning. Period. There is no regulation on the planet will alter that. Anything on the books will be ignored. Anyone trying to change that will be at best ridiculed, at worst killed.
All this, for the wheels.
And for the money those wheels of industry bring, to the few and the proud and deranged, like this guy. Everyone else can die, those near and a lot of them distant. Die however they want to, it doesn't matter, so long as they consume some coal on the way to the grave. Burn it eat it whatever. Patriotic duty.
We set ourselves upon the industrial road 1,000 years ago, and we've been burning the coal for 300 years of that, and mostly in the last 40 years burning it like all the raging pits of Hell. Even at that rate we will not get off this road for another 100 years. But when it's over it will be over -- forever and ever -- because the planet will not do twice what it did that one time, 100 million years ago, laying down all that coal for the eventual wheels of industry to devour.
Gone, in a blink.
Nobody but me wonders what comes after. Except I don't wonder because I already know.
I will accept the name calling from you Coug. W. because at least you gave a reasoned and sane response. Perhaps it will end as you say. But at least we might die trying! One can never be certain of anything except one's own current moment of existence.
For the record, I am probably also a libtard/commie/pinko. Seems like all cats are. We get kicked around a lot, anyway.
You can try until you die if it gives you any kind of closure. 5 million years of evolution was nothing but that. But it bothers me that some fat white guy on a yacht is getting rich while accelerating the annihilation of everyone else. There are practical implications, too. In the end, the surviving gene pool will be dominated by people exhibiting a proclivity for leisure, obesity, galloping consumption, and casual indifference. Which makes me think the human race might have been down this very same road before. How would we know either way? I wonder.
Somebody told me I was born in the Year of the Tiger!?
I know the 100th monkey dealy was shown to be not demonstrably as true as was said, but it does seem like we humans respond in like when there is enough collective momentum. We "just" need to move out of this false dichotomy, fear breeding, paradigm. Perhaps obliteration is the only way we will, perhaps not.
cougar, u b a good cat, and 4 legs good, too, but:
Then have it your way (in a thought experiment at least). Stop all coal production. Period. Exhaust all of the coal piles at steel plants and electrical power plants.
I'd stop at libtard, cuz u have been way too much of a reasoning cat to fall into the other regime.
Well, above is almost exactly a description of Mao, 'cept for the racist white reference. He has a really good hurdle of >50MM to jump over.
- Ned
"Well, above is almost exactly a description of Mao"
Well, he did admit he was a commie/pinko/lib/fascist.
did not. go back and read it again.
Read around here, in this very thread. I have never actually said "stop all coal production" and have said in fact that coal production will never stop until the last lump of coal is gone, and that we need to do this to keep the wheels turning, and that I am employeed (like everyone else) while the wheels keep turning.
Go ahead, I'll wait.
Now, you will notice that the only things I have ever claimed -- indeed consistently for all the years I have posted on ZH being way over 6 years now -- are two: that (1) this sort of continued activity will be the end of us and everything we love, and (2) it bugs me that anyone is getting rich doing this and that this fat white guy is going to work overtime making that happen and crying about it whenever there is a pothole in his road to ruin, when a lot of pot holes would turn out to have been a good thing.
What might I prefer him do? Shut his pie hole and keep a low profile, to start. Second, while he is personally contributing to the annihilation of Western civilization he could treat his own employees like something more valuable than actual pig shit. Third, that he could sense the inevitable wreckage of his own entire personal way of life and do something positive to clean up his image besides rail against the President whoever it happens to be just because his own industry breeds filth and decay, so that thinking people (there are a few of us left) do not have to constantly fight back this overpowering desire to put a .50 into him at range.
As for racist, I don't know. I've kind of gotten to the point where I just feel sorry for people most of the time.
Not worth much, if anything, but I do enjoy reading your screed. Thanks for taking the time. I usually won't put much more than a wise crack out anymore, not that I was every capable of much more.
yo, coug, ya gotta' take the policies to the limit, cuz "they" are.
The Igglez did a song about that, but I'd say to look at the actuality of the policies, and explore their implications. In fairness, my suggestion would also include a) take one's time and b) use a mind-altering and soothing <potion> to accompany any inquiry.
As far as you goin' afta' the Whitiez? Light-brown brotha' ya gotta' look around and see the light. I know I'm kinda' pink 'n' shit, but I've had that color-thang a) never and b) burned out of all of us green folk.
Go play and be safe.
- Ned
Sorry there Bob, but Lincoln was not only the worst US President, he was also one of the worst American public figures of all time! It's tough to take seriously anything else he has to say if he cannot at least show some respect for historical fact.
Here's one: it's interesting that Lincoln the Destroyer was IN FAVOR of secession when it was West Virginia seceding from Virginia!
I'd like to nominate Obama, Wilson, FDR, and Carter into the competition for worst president ever. Got a deep bench.
A tougher list would be one for GOOD Presidents.
Washington is number one, methinks. Jackson for what he did to Hamilton's Federal Bank. Grover Cleveland wasn't bad. James K. Polk, Buchanan make the list. I'd put Reagan in the top ten, though he was not the formidable social conservative all the Rush acolytes believe (cough - Sandra Day O'Connor - cough). About my only controversial pick would be Richard Nixon, who wasn't nearly as bad a President as we've all been led to believe, and did some damn good things that have been utterly forgotten.
Regagan, top 10, LOL.
Well, he's definitely in the top 44.
Oh let them have their gods!
Don't forget Chester A. Arthur.
Wasn't he the secret Canadian?
You forgot Bush Jr.......the coke snorting traitor.
It's silly that he would think Lincoln was a good president if he thinks Obama is a bad one. Obama is doing conceptually the same things that Lincoln did, rule by edict, trample all over states rights and do everything he can to fuck over the south.
Only difference is Lincoln knew and stated many times that blacks are not the same as whites and should all be sent back to Africa. And Lincoln used more violence against the American people.
Agree on all of your points, but please capitalize South, and being picky, but states do not have RIGHTS, they have POWERS, individual humans have rights.
Any entity that has responsibilities, has rights. This absolutely includes the several sovereign States.
The same concept, applied to another topic, exposes this "animal rights" crusade for the fraud that it is. Sarah McLachlan to the contrary notwithstanding, animals do not have rights, as they do not have responsibilities. That's what was wrong with the whole Michael Vick affair. But I digress.
Life has always been hard in Distrct 12.
On the other hand, life in the Capital District is just fine, thank all y'all very much.
- Ned
....right and nat gas price collapse had nothing to do with it.
The collapse of coal is directly related to the mandates from the 0bama administration, natural gas collapsed because, contrary to the lying government and media, the economy is in shambles, that along with the fact there is a glut of available natural gas. Simple economics mixed with communists in government.
I call BS... the guy works in an industry that is dying, coal is out, gas is in.
Then he complains the state charges him too much tax... nothing to do with Obama
If this guy was fracking instead of mining he would be saying Obama was great and beg for more handouts.
I call BS on your BS call;
Coal is a much more efficient form of generating electricity, even with all the 'environmental' constraints put on it, natural gas is great but has no where near the stored energy as coal.
This is all about environmental wacko's and communists destroying America.
Fuck them with a brick.
YOu sound like you live in 1960.. watch this if you have time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr-grdspEWQ
Hey DoucheBoy,
You still pushing that infomercial?
Sssh, O-Man may be a fellow traveller.
Lord knows CEOs have done a lot to make America a better place (for themselves). That fucker would gladly destroy America for a new yacht. Fuck him.
Fuck you , with a lump of coal, cocksucker
What have I told you about testing the limits of your intellectual abilities? You end up looking like what you are.
Yeah but he's a Southern CEO (see I capitalised it!) so he's a good 'ol boy from the South (again!) fighting those scoundrel carbetbaggers. So he can have his yacht and good on him. And he can destroy America too because everyone knows the South (!) is not part of that America, but the right and glorious America. That other America is communist obviously. Oh and Godless. So we spell it with a K like Amerika. Amerika he can destroy with his yacht and nobody in the South (!!) is going to shed a tear. Well except all those Southern states taking transfer payments from the north, they might complain a little. But that's okay, they can mine more coal and sell it to the Germans for their war machine.
shhhh, coog, shh, just u n me. By GOD West Virginia ain't not no Southern thang, got it? ;-)
This is the problem. I don't care which side of the coal issue you are on, I think we can all agree on the fact that all of this regulatory attack on coal has come from Obama's illegal use of executive orders and not through legislation. We are no longer a country of laws. We are a country operated by tyrants.
Who gains?
Who loses?
When campaigning in 2008, O said he would bankrupt the coal industry.
Typical corporate POS reading out of Clintons playbook. He thinks US citzens are stupid and he is right. Nobody cares, the gov says the cheap and abundant fuel is "dirty", fracked Natural gas is "clean", what else do you need to know? There are a few things in his statements that belong in the no shit file:
1) Obama's administration has issued regulations that illegally bypass the states
2) ... an effort to get control of the availability, reliability and cost of electricity.
3) EPA guidelines on coal boarders on the absurd
Then there is just crazy talk:
1) West Virginia Republicans will have to do
2)" So who, you might ask, can fix the problem? Well Abraham Licoln for one"... (WTF!)
The whole debate is reminiscent of a bunch unions preaching that Democrats will have to do, immediately proceeding massive shuttering of coal power plants, layoffs and the slack jawed surprise that only a perfect moron can produce. If this guy is defending coal it's over, until the masters say otherwise.... bundle up.
He's just mad because bigger fish with bigger guns took away the power of his smaller fish with smaller guns. This cry for states rights??? It is the same game, run by the same psychopaths, just scaled differently.
"Obama Is Nation's Great Destroyer"
No Mother fucking shit
Well, if you elect a Bolshevik Communist brought up in the Third World as a Muslim, what do you expect?
Goulag kebabs!
and they aren't PORK!!!!! Whooooeee!!!!!!!
:(
You ain't seen nothing yet boys and girls....... the shale industry is about to get absolutely annihilated.
Actually that is a very good thing. Unless you like drinking poison water and possibly earthquakes.
Turn off the Rick Fox movies and actually learn something about fracking before spouting off with this nonsense again.
Says the fucktard who won't take time to learn something and watch this in its entiretly
You are a shit for brains loser and totally brainwashed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr-grdspEWQ
If you would step outside the pot boutique for a few minutes and take a few breathes of that fresh Rotterdam air, you might find other videos that may differ from the propaganda du jour you latched onto today.
Pull your head out of your ass you brainwash know nothing MORON!!!
Wow, great argument! Were you the head cheerleader for your high school's debate team?
Yo, DuBoy, please do a utube video of u drinking an earthquake. We'll all watch with great pleasure. - Ned
Do you enjoy lighting up your water faucets?
Hey dumass! Is my mute button on?
Turn off the fractivist movies and actually go learn something about the subject. Fracking DOES NOT cause, and HAS NEVER caused, flaming water taps.
Hey look everyone, a market shill from Halliburton!
So how are those Q3 estimates holding up for you guys? Yeah? No? More like some kind of sucking black hole, amiright? Well remember what they say, stare too long into the black abyss and the black abyss stares into you.
Enjoy your your impending doom. We'll all be cheering for you as you drag the rest of us down in the wake of your spirally plunge into insolvency and annihilation!
No, I don't work for HLB.
Or Weatherford, or SLB, or Baker Hughes, or any other petroleum company.
But even if I did...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
I enjoy people who aren't mentally defective and who don't lie through their teeth.
You will meet someone like that next time you shave.
DB you are being used like a life sized Muppet by the green Nazis . Tell me does that still feel uncomfortable or are you used to it.
He's quite used to it by now...
"Jedem das Seine" is a firm part of his belief system.
"EGO sum filius di Diabolus"
--bath house
Obama declared he would destroy coal back in 2008 and he is keeping his word, which is shocking because virtually all other campaign stomps and promises have been shit on.
Dr. Alan Keyes telling the truth about 0bama;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmujttc0oJc
Researching into BTB's past, Gregory Peck was shocked when he dug up the grave of BHB's mother only to find a Jackal in the coffin, which was decorated with Satanic symbols.....
Did it look like this?
http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/harp/1102.html
Thanks for the link. Common sense.
Like most on here say, no obama is not the destroyer and he's nothing more than a puppet. The ZIONISTS are the ones destroying this nation while they steal everything from us to help build israel.
0bama may be a puppet but he is definitively the Destroyer in Chief
Hello, Fellow Keyans. I have Soloman here, a buddy who will help your country out."
Obama was ordered and readily accepted a Bolshevik plan to destroy America.
He has not been impeached/convicted.
He is a clear and present danger to the US- as are his Handlers.
His Handlers reside in Tel Aviv , a pack of lying,cheating psychopaths
Yes they do.
That's why he & Carry have received summons.
Abram: I don't think BHB is so great.
Mordecai: You did not get a BJ from him, did you?
Abram: No.
Mordecai: Well, he's Our Man, I tell ya.
(PSA)
Attention, Kenyans, lock up your young men, they are Targets for Bath House Homosexual advances!!
Here is the difference between coal and "clean" nuclear power. After obama taxes every coal plant out of existance, they can be abandoned, and in 400 years nobody would ever know they even existed. Nature would take every molecule back in to her cycle.
Meanwhile, 2.8 billion years from now, when our sun consumes this planet, millions of tons of manmade radioactive waste will still be around.
Pay your taxes folk, enjoy your MIC/nuke industry, your federal reserve, and the IRS.
coal is black and is dirty and evil shit..obuma is black ..oh wait.
when the lights go out ..coal will look real good, when the lights go out at the white house obuma still looks like a shit ape.
smile and laugh..oh that would be racisssst
Let's remember that Obama's opponent was an empty chair. That's what the deep state thinks of him and us, less than an empty chair.
As has already been stated, but I'll toss in my $.01 anyway...
The supreme Irony here is that the president's actions mirror those of Mr. Murray's 'God' (Lincoln)...