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Iran's Supreme Leader Has A Message For President Obama
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US president has said he could knock out Iran’s military. We welcome no war, nor do we initiate any war, but.. pic.twitter.com/D4Co7fVuVg
— Khamenei.ir (@khamenei_ir) July 25, 2015
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US shooting itself in the foot? Maybe?
We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." I suppose we all thought that, one way or another.
http://www.philiacband.com/propaganda.html
The US regime makes the simple demand that Iran get on its knees, unzip the fly and perform indefinite felatio on the US/NATO and the Neocons. But noooo, Iran's gotta start with this war talk. Just goes to show you can't reason with some women..., er, countries.
US shooting itself in the foot? Maybe?
if you vote for hitlary, certainly, i do not see another 8 years of socialism in the usa without a major world war or something involving nuke nation.
AYATOLLAH IS A ASSAHOLLA!
And you bet the US gov and military is actually PLANNING a nuclear war now to complete the NWO agenda.
It will start with a nuclear false flag event as so many wars have which gives the US an excuse to go full nuke-tard on Iran and North Korea
Which will cause Russia and China to retaliate against the US and Europe.
Unless we take them out as soon as we launch against Iran.
It will solve global warming in a day!
Nuclear war would reset all life back to primeordial sludge , and that is being seriously optimistic.
Plants and insects can endure much higher radiation levels than vertebrates. They will survive in some form.
Not when they ingest alpha emitters.
The only thing left alive will be extremophiles which will evolve into complex organisms resembling Hillary Clinton.
I thought these Ayatolla assholes were going to nuke Israel into the stone age. Well.. waiting.
It's somewhat ironic that Khamenei is a quintessential example of an old, conservative white male.
Big long words, you must be smart. /sarc
If you seen it on Twitter, it must be true!!!!!
Sing along gang!
Scooby Dooby Doo where are you?
I'm surfing on the Zero.
And Scooby Dooby Doo what are you up to?
I'm sitting here amazed that no one wants to take Tyler to a movie theater.
Duping Obozo is so easy even an ayatollah can do it!
Nah, being a Muslim himself, ObumBoy has a soft spot for all Islamic causes. So it would be Israel used as a proxy which would attack Iran using heavy US weapons already in place in Diego Garcia.
I don't see America attacking Iran. In fact, we're going to use those ragheads to fight ISIS. This is all just sabre-rattling.
Him and bomb-bomb-bomb, bomb-bomb Iran McCain.
Is that songbird Mcain or wetstart Mcain , opps my bad they are the same person.
By the way the US war machine is allready gearing up and staging it's equipment for the next war and that would be AMERICA, they are doing it right under your noses.
Hey, wow! Iran's supreme dictator fails to kiss ZATO ass! Must be time for "Tyler" to roll out some AIPAC-approved "funnies" by Ramirez.
If you seen it on Twitter, it must be true!!!!!
“Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away.”
- Benjamin Netanyahu 2002
The quotation marks make all the difference.
His replies/comments are as predictable as an NFL coach's!
You are an epitome of those infamous degenerate, dumb, liberal Scandinavian scum!
Don't encourage the trolls by being nice to them.
they look the same all the time.
With acid for blood....
awesome HB
Better to go extinct than have to live under those circumstances.
Oopsy-daisy
http://www.sciencealert.com/new-photos-show-mutated-daisies-growing-near...
So all of those posting here who are plants and insects should have little to worry about...
When and if intelligent life evolves again on this planet, it will most likely be decendents of the cockroach.
And Keith Richards.
Monsanto has already spliced cockroach genes into TPTB to survive fallout. We'll know for sure when they go to a 5 Star restaurant and throw up in their plates and wolf it down.
Guys,
It could have been worse if we did not have experience around mediocracy.
Don’t take my word for it, listen to our ‘American’ religious leader, yourself:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Robertson_controversies
From Headbanger:
"Which will cause Russia and China to retaliate against the US and Europe."
Ok, what would make anyone actually believe this? When has Russia ever defended any of it's so called allies? Never. Iraq, Ukraine, Serbia, Syria, Yemen, Libya. The fact is that most often Russia (and Putin) votes FOR sanctions against their "allies". (Or Russia abstains from voting and thus gives approval.) Russia actually helps disarm the countries before the US/NATO attack, such as Iraq and Syria's chemical weapons. Russia approves no fly zones in the same manner. Russia has partnered with Turkey, who is key in the attack against Syria.
Russia still has not delivered any of the missiles to Iran that were agreed upon many years ago and refuses to even discuss delivering on fully signed contract to deliver missiles to Syria.
China minds the business of China.
And why would the west need to use nuclear weapons against Iran or N Korea to destroy them? Neither have a weapon that can reach the US. There has been seculation that N Korea has something in theory but even if it did it would be so primative as to not be capable of penetrating defenses from that distance. The US would just do an Iraq 3 and 4 using convential weapons. Unless the military wants to play with tactical nukes of limited size.
Putin cannot/will no even stop the rag tag forces of W Ukraine. In fact Putin is so afraid (or compromised or simply is only concerned with the profits of the Russian elite (high percent jewish)) that twice he forces the E Ukraine forces to let the trapped W Ukriane army to safely pick up and drive out of danger.
Sometimes one plays for the long game. Do you think most of those guys in the pockets were right sektor instead of poorly conscripted young men from the west, who disgusted with the way they were abandoned by the Uke military, will fight again? Most of them are probably long gone AWOL by now. IF Russia and China have done nothing why hasnt the USA already bombed Iran and Syria into oblivion.
W Ukraine was defeated once and got more as they needed to. Yes, they will have plenty of cannon fodder. The next time there is a serious push (not the minor killing going on now) they will get more backing and will likely take the area around Crimea.
Iran has not been attacked because Syria has not been completely taken. Syria was not invaded because there was too much public resistance in the US. AND the intent has been to depopulate portions of Syria in prep for going after Iran. The proxy army can much more readily commit open, mass murder and empty entire cities. And you really must not be paying attention. Much of Syria has been destroyed. Mostly by the ground forces but as needed it is bombed by air raids. Including air raids to the outskirts fo the capital.
US troops are not attacked Syria for one reason only. This reason is called the Russian navy, who took up a position between Syria and the US Navy.
Russian Navy has offered to play Russian roulette. The US Navy thought did not last long, and refused to play Russian roulette with the Russian Navy.
It is very difficult to play in the war against the Russian Navy, who from one salvo of 72 smart missiles (with tactical nuclear warheads each), can sink the entire US Navy, with a triple guarantee.
The Russian navy does nothing but sit. Planes fly into Syria and bomb frequently. Nothing from the Russian navy.
While the russian navy sits Syria has been destroyed.
The US+UK and Israel have been the only two formations on this planet, historically, with the sick policy to destroy what they cannot get hold of (so that nobody else can). How much measurable damage has "evil" North Korea done to any other country in the last 50 years? Compare this to the criminal record of those bullwarks of democracy.
It only starts to dawn on the Merikens a) that the US has been turning inside, doing to its people what so far was reserved for the in their eyes asian and south american subhumans - and b) that Ukraine is the blueprint their oligarchs have chosen as their future model for them.
If they can take our Astronauts and the Russian Cosmonauts to an accuracy of lining up a connection dowell in the space station, they can probably drop a 20 megaton in the Capitol garbage can. I sure would hate to lose the Smithsonian and all the other history prior to 1973. Thank you Milhous and your fat dwarf Kissinger.
They defended some allies about 101 years ago...
If you want Russia to defend its allies increasingly, the US defeat in Vietnam, you will remember only how easy holiday romance.
Headbanger says: When has Russia ever defended any of it's so called allies?
errr.. WWII? Russia, errr, the USSR gave about 40 million souls to the cause against the Axis, and of course, most everybody knows the whys the hows and the whos underlying WWI and WWII getting a chapter in the history books.
And of course everyone knows how righteous, glorious and nobel war is.
And everybody knows what war is. How war changes our outlook from day to day.
How war allows us to achieve our dreams, Helps people by reducing the burden of living.
How war can absolve past mistakes and lead to a more cooperative understanding of humanities public servants.
And everybody knows how proud and patriotic soldiers feel after defending us from those who hate us for our freedom.
Russian has, and is, supplying frontline defense systems to Iran, that, incidentally, cannot be countered by US cost plus ordinance scams. Russia provided Iraq with GPS scramblers. Iraq used to purchase USSR, Russian ordinance, Somehow they switched to expensive western providers, however, Iraq, during the last genocide under Bush II, did receive GPS signal scramblers from Russia. And, depite the lamestream media incantations,
Iran allow Iraq to hide it's front line fighters in Iran.
I don't think Putin votes at the UN, either physically or metaphorically. Putin, may view his public service, much the same as Mao did when he made this statement to Nixon, "Some look out this window and see only grey skies. When I look this window I see 1 billion Chinese."
Russia UNSC rep voted against establishment of a Syrian no-fly.
But you need to look at this, not like a Sunday NFL fan with a gut full of beer and belly-bumping your buds when your TEAM SCORES. Look at it like it is a long term fight your are engaged in. You want to minimize losses and costs. Your opposed is a bully Alpha Male Ape primped by war and industrial genocide financiers and industries to think dat he, the Alpha Male Ape, is exceptional, and invincible. Of course the rest of de troop know his vanities have been pampered to make him beleive he invincable, and that he been fattened up so the demon will take so much time eating his fool ass, which, of course, will buy time so the rest of the troop can escape. And, also, evey body know dat 90% of the offpring produced by his harem are, instead, genotypes, or the children, of the pesky little lesser males.
Sometimes, narcissism of one individual, is a benefit to the larger society.
Wat do ya do? Shed resources and treasure every time the Ape bullies someone?
You let the the stup fat vain Ape destroy itself, weaken itself, and then take it down, with the least blood and treasure..
Do you see what's going on. China dumped a bunch of US bonds. China, the US's primary lender, and Russia are quietly, profitably building relations with undeveloped nations that the US typically false-flagged into a colonization war. Look a US bonds. Look at the inflated US indexes. See them fall, Look at the corruption in our institutions ov governance, GMO labeling. Protection for the Don's of Wall Street rehypothicating non existent value with a false alchemy claimed to turn blood to gold.
Our entire notion of History, unless we were lucky, is false. We allow ourselves to be called consumers, a slave caste designation, when it it is us, you, me, the rest of our 370 Million strong fellow Americans, who produce, create value. Politicians are employed at our pleasure (i.e. consumers), bankers use the wealth we create for the the extortion and fraud the allows the their fantastical rehypothocating finical structures to be sold as wealth creation.
Wealth and Value can neither be created nor destroyed, they can can only change from one form to another.
Rethink your history about WW2. Russia did not come to the defense of any "allies". Russia was attacked by Germany, actually Russia was about to attack Germany many believe, and then Russia responded for it's own good not for any allies. The same holds to this day. As long as Russia in not attacked within it's borders Russia will do nothing.
Russia still has not delivered any frontline defense to Iran. Not even the missiles that were contracted for many years ago. Russia still has not provided any frontline defense to Syria, not even the missiles that were fully contracted for many years ago.
If you do not think that Russia's vote or lack thereof is directed by Putin you are very mistaken. Do you really think the russian delegate is independent and votes his personal agenda.
Russia has sat back and done nothing while Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Serbia, EUkraine are destroyed. The Putin fans always make excuses and claim it is master chess moves. Meanwhile those who were once "allies" of Russia are slaughter and now dead, countries that were once allies are now destroyed.
I thought these guys were about to attack Germany?
Perhaps our conversation would be better served with an inclusion of a pararagraph from the ""why's and whos" of WWI and WWII getting ink in History books:
Now Germany -- not a shot had been fired on the German soil. Not an enemy soldier had crossed the border into Germany. And yet, here was Germany offering England peace terms. They offered England a negotiated peace on what the lawyers call a status quo ante basis. That means: “Let's call the war off, and let everything be as it was before the war started.” Well, England, in the summer of 1916 was considering that. Seriously! They had no choice. It was either accepting this negotiated peace that Germany was magnanimously offering them, or going on with the war and being totally defeated.
While that was going on, the Zionists in Germany, who represented the Zionists from Eastern Europe, went to the British War Cabinet and -- I am going to be brief because this is a long story, but I have all the documents to prove any statement that I make if anyone here is curious, or doesn't believe what I'm saying is at all possible -- the Zionists in London went to the British war cabinet and they said: “Look here. You can yet win this war. You don't have to give up. You don't have to accept the negotiated peace offered to you now by Germany. You can win this war if the United States will come in as your ally.” ......
In other words, they made this deal: “We will get the United States into this war as your ally. The price you must pay us is Palestine after you have won the war and defeated Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey.” ....
At that time, everything changed, like the traffic light that changes from red to green. Where the newspapers had been all pro-German, where they'd been telling the people of the difficulties that Germany was having fighting Great Britain commercially and in other respects, all of a sudden the Germans were no good. .....
The Zionists in London sent these cables to the United States, to Justice Brandeis: “Go to work on President Wilson. We're getting from England what we want. Now you go to work, and you go to work on President Wilson and get the United States into the war."
The WZO's ageement with the UK Home Office is referred to as the Balfour DeclararationSimply put, it's purpose was to prevent Russia from attacking Germany. Brandies' little visit with Wilson was immediately followed by laws, some not properly enacted, that established the Federal Reserver, direct election of senators, the IRS and the Federal Income Tax, to finance and pay for America's entry into WWI, and the the "forever war" that has continued since.
Jeff Weber has a collection of supporting historical facts and documents, including the exception strength of the German economy during the depression, whixh was the target of the WZO, aka, London Shadow Bankers.
Nazi Germany, in fact, transported the first Zionist settlers to Palestine, gave them machine tools, Marks, etc, hoping that would keep the infestation. But most German Jews stayed in Germany, their homeland, and wanted nothing to do with the Zionist Plans. BTW, the name of the vessel that transported Germany's hardcore zionists to Palestine, was the "SS Tel Aviv"
Now take a deep breath, and think: What is the difference between a "refugee camp" and a "concentration camp"?
That result is coming either way. Both parties bought and paid for, and their masters' fuckups must be covered up with WAR.
Maybe Iran is talking about war, but all 0bama hears is "glub, glub, slurrrp".
Iran's public statements are merely propoganda for their sheeple, just like any gov does. What they say in private is what really matters, and you ain't in that club.
When the US decides it's Iran's turn for regime change, it won't be difficult. Remember, Iran and Iraq fought to a standoff for 10 years. And Iraq was easy pickings for the US. For now, Syria is next in the neocon sites. Iran is in the on deck circle, unless they hurry up with that nuke deterrent.
the name of krishna's warrior is arjuna, which means silver in sanskrit.
Someone should tell Kerry there are girls in this world that will always play hard to get, irregardless of looks.
Or maybe shes just not that into you
US can't win a war in small Afghanastan. Of course they wouldn't win a war in Iran, if they are the aggressor.
"We just marched in, we can just march out." - Ron Paul
Why do Arabs love the English weather ?
Because it's either Tsunni or Shiite
zat's raciss !
Hey Obama fuck you too. And I am not a terrorist . I can only imagine how much the hate you.
From his lips to Allah's ears.
What's with the silent T?
You do realise that psychiatrists urinate without making a sound, don't you?
shumba, I couldn't re find your comment on individual "sovereignty" so this will have to. Legal comment by B.C. Law Society on "Freemen on the Land" "Creditor-Debtor" or other such nonsense.Type in "Freemen on the Land" in the search window for a true legal view.
dohttp://www.lawsociety.bc.ca/page.cfm?cid=2627
That's funny, but would work better as "Irish weather".
But it's never sunni in Ireland , it's always Shiite ..
Perhaps "English Leather".
3 down arrows! Tough crowd... Am I wrong in thinking the Irish accent fits better?
The US couldn't defeat North Korea or North VietNam. We barely won Grenada...
Was not Grenada a stalemate, shit comms and all that??
You need to define winning and losing in war - as long as the war machine gets its pay, it wins
Exactly spoonful. Look what the PTB got out of Viet Nam, the unbacked $ that can be printed to infinity and the rest of the world has little choice but to take for their goods. A huge win for Team Zino.
you mean, regardless
or irrespective
I think 'regardless' fits well.
'Without regard to' morality nor humanity.
Thanks John Kerry. For future security and safety. Asshole.
Oh, and yes, O love you to 'Murica!!!
The State Dept has not had a brilliant diplomat in their house for years.
They don't exist.
Well, not on earth, anyway.
I don't know, Sergey Lavarov seems pretty sharp to me.
The US like all the rest of the governments of any consequence are run by psycopaths. This includes the politicians, Generals, and especially the Bankers . . . Just look at the lead-up to every war in the past few centurys, if not all past wars, and you will see the same crazies in action. They always know how to control their populations ... up to the point of defeat.
Of course the stakes in play in the war games these days are catastropic. So what? TPTB are already on record saying they want to see population reduced by several billion. And so it goes...Et tu Brute...Cest La Vie... Cui Bono... etc,etc,&,etc....
I think they were aming for the Bawls.
whatever... fuck you Iran and the camel you rode in on... it's just fucking talk from you guys... what are you going to do, photoshop us into submission?
fucking backwater moon "god" worshipping ankle biters... fuck 'em all...
Apart from nukes, this is probably quite true. It's not within the realm of conceivability that the USA could occupy Iran, its just not possible. Israel already proved that bombing a bunch of hospitals and terrifying grannies isn't actually a successful strategy - not against Shiites, at least.
Maybe not but they could make a hell of a mess of the place thats for sure
Which, as proved in Lebanon, does nothing to degrade Shiite military capacity and only serves to make them mad.
Yeah like that knight in the Monty Python sketch just kept getting madder as his arms and legs got chopped off till eventually he was just a torso on the ground. Not a winning strategy is it
And the military capacity doesn't really degrade due to the fact that there is precious little there to begin with
Hezbollah fired more rockets on the last day of the July War than the first. The facts have a quality all their own.
You can perform mental acrobatics in an attempt to defy reality but reality will remain exactly as it always was. If you wish to pretend that iran is some sort of match for the us militarily carry on but dont expect people not to point out the idocy of your position
See, you're just not thinking. A match for what? Iran has no capacity whatsoever to invade and occupy even the remotest and most defenseless US territory. None. But what can Iran do?
Can they wreck America's ability to be safely present anywhere in the Middle East? Definitely. Can they detonate a nuke with one of their subs in San Diego harbor? I dunno - ask AQ Khan. All the fancy engineering bullshit in the world isn't enough to perform the wrong mission for the wrong reasons, and attacking Iran is both of those things.
"Can they detonate a nuke with one of their subs in San Diego harbor?"
My guess is that it would be a sailboat on the Hudson or Potomac rivers. The material and physical constraints on a simple gun-type fission weapon are greatly relaxed when a long barrel is used. A sailboat's mast allows for a long gun barrel that reduces the peak acceleration required to reach a velocity that enables the proper assembly of a critical mass. The mast/gun barrel would be evacuated and a sabot would be used with the projectile mass. The target uranium mass would be in the sailboat's keel. The keel could thus contain not only the HEU required for critical mass assembly, but several hundred pounds of depleted uranium that would contribute to the overall yield through neutron capture by atoms at a distance from the critical mass. Of course, this would be a suicide mission, but considering recent history and the current state of affairs in the Middle East, I suspect that they would have more difficulty finding competent sailors than they would in finding somebody who is willing to arm and trigger a nuclear device from a bosun's chair.
Easier to go for tel aviv
haifa
Very creative
Sounds like you've thought this through.
Sounds like that Barney Miller sketch, he's building one in his basement, or sewer. He must have the latest revision of the Anarchist's Cookbook or that Army Field Manual we had to keep locked up back in the 60's.
He always told everyone he was gonna do something 'great' one day
Re: "Sounds like you've thought this through."
Having sailed a bit, I knew that racing yachts had already used depleted uranium for keels. After watching a few documentaries on the Manhattan Project and seeing the specifications for "Little Boy" on Wikipedia, it seemed kind of obvious.
Edit: I failed to credit one other source of inspiration. About 40 years ago my brother and I picked up an old hitchhiker in Berkeley. He told us that the French had planted an atomic bomb underneath the Richmond-San Rafael bridge and that when the time was right they would detonate it in order to start a war between the USA and USSR. Years later, sailing under the Richmond-San Rafael bridge caused me to think about nuclear weapons in a context where they would normally be the furthest thing from my mind.
on its own soil, Iran is absolutely a match for what remains of the US military - its not even debatable.
However, the US would rely on its navy and air force and would never dream of trying to occupy the country - at most, it might use Sf with support from rangers and marines to try to decapitate the leadership.
However - the *reason* the US does not do so is Iran would not only target US bases - but would actually say fuck it and launch missiles at Israel.
Israel could deploy all of its nukes on Iran, but Iran xcould level Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.
and hit Dimona.
Not even debatable ?????
Now when someone announces something with such utter certainty you know they are talking out their ass
They will fuck that country up and then leave, or maybe not, that is all there is to it and somewhere inside you know it too
And what, exactly, do you think is gained in "fucking up that country" and leaving? It won't substantially change their leadership or their policies. It will make Death to America more than just a patriotic slogan, but reestablish it as a national passion, in the minds of the next two generations of Iranians. Do you really not grok the futility of starting a losing, multi-generational fight for illegitimate reasons? Even if you "win," you lose.
Now this i can agree with more or less.
Not sure what they hope to gain although it seems israel are the ones with the real hard on for iran
The fact is it hasnt happened which means either there is nothing to gain or what their is to gain isnt worth the level of effort they have calculated as being necessary
it seems israel are the ones with the real hard on for iran
You don't have crowds in Israel chanting "Death to Iran".
The day the US or Israel take those threats from the leadership of Iran seriously is the day that Iran ceases to exist as a country.
Isreal and the United States don't give a shit about Iran except to the extent that Iran is a threat to them. Without the threat of terrorist attacks or nuclear weapons, Iran is just another feudal pest hole that mistreats its women.
I think you are probably right
I think you are both hasbara trolls.
You're the dude posting reams of spurious links, and from reading your posts i see thinking isnt your strong point
Jewish settlers burn, destroy Catholic Church on the banks of the Galilee sea
http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2015/06/jewish-settlers-burn-destroy-c...
How Israel Covers Up Its Ugly Racial Holy War
http://www.alternet.org/world/how-israel-covers-its-ugly-racial-holy-war
‘How to kill goyim and influence people’
http://mondoweiss.net/2010/08/how-to-kill-goyim-and-influence-people
How to Kill Goyim and Influence People: Israeli Rabbis Defend Book's Shocking Religious Defense of Killing Non-Jews (with Video)
http://www.alternet.org/story/148016/how_to_kill_goyim_and_influence_peo...
We never hear about Jewish attacks on Christians, or on Palestinian school girls, or the destruction of Palestinian crops, orchards, and homes. Nor are americans told about open and obvious racists in Israel's government, nor the absurd xenophobia and supremacism of Orthodox Jewish leaders.
This is a country that has received TENS OF BILLIONS from the US and other western, christian states.
Meanwhile, Iran was attacked by US supplied chemical weapons in a horrid 8 year war which the US essentially directed, as well as the overthrow of its democratic government for a US-imposed dictator - all to steal Iran's oil.
Go fuck yourself.
Wow, either you came prepared or thats a lot of time and effort right there
Do yourself a favour and save yourself the trouble, find something more meaningful and enjoyable to do with your finite time on this planet, cause no one cares what you think or is about to change their opinions because of what you have posted here
Duud, step aside the mirror.
Yeah, i know, this is the very definition of wasting my time trying to talk some sense into a bunch of morons who I will never meet and whose opinions will never change. I am actually here for the economic threads but debating crazies and idiots is strangely compelling
Wrong,
I find that post extremely informational and opinion changing. Sorry.
You know what Klutztoowept, I will post those links on Facebook and other places.
You hence will be called "Hasbara gone wrong" cause you are sinking your case.
I don't have a cause and am not a Hasbara troll as much as you might like to label everyone who has a different opinion like some childish bolshevist back in the day denouncing everyone who questions them as a trotsky-ite. Unlike you I have a complex multi-faceted opinion I arrived at myself given the evidence available, which is why I have criticised the actions of israel and the US many times. I just do it without resorting to your particular brand of jew hating zio conspiracy bullshit. I find it makes you appear a bit less insane.
Feel free to post all the dubious links you like, I expect there are thousands on there already for people like you to pore over while the rest of us with fully functioning bullshit detectors get on with our lives
"it seems israel are the ones with the real hard on for iran"
No kidding? The country Rothschild built has a hard on for one of the few remaining countries without a Rothschild central bank? You don't say...
Yeah, I think it might be a country whose favourite meme is 'death to israel/us' getting their hands on nukes that has caught their attention in a big way. Had to laugh at the guy showing up at the senate with his roadrunner picture of a bomb though, hilarious way to go about things.
It may be as you say but the fact remains that fucking up countries and leaving has been our official foreign policy for the last 60 years.
Why that is, I have no idea, but there it is.
There are lots of theories about that
Some say its due to clash of ideologies, some say american 'insecurity', some say american messianic wish to spread democracy, some even say its about capturing new markets
Personally I think the main driver is the out of control american MIC. Just look at the defence (attack) expenditure, all that money will find a channel and will also find ever more ways to justify its ever inflating existence
And some say Oded Yinon and the PNAC boys' "Clean Break" is the actual reason.
I have no idea what you are talking about but knowing this site i am gonna take a wild guess, its a zionist conspiracy !!
Luciferian, child raping, idol worshipping, murderous conspiracy is probably a bit closer... But hey, if the shoe fits and all that...
I have no idea what you are talking about but knowing this site i am gonna take a wild guess, its a zionist conspiracy !!
You have no idea. Quelle suprise. Here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYrZkFEiY1I
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing...
Wow, nation states have global policy initiatives and agendas, quelle surprise indeed, who would have thought such a thing.
I guess you are right, there must be a luciferian baby murdering zionist conspiracy behind everything bad in the world.
Or maybe all nation states commit crimes and immoral acts in furtherance of their own global interrests, dya think ?
You see I am no fan of the actions of the israeli government, particularly what happened last summer, but all this satanic zio conspiracy bullshit just makes you look crazy and doesnt help in applying political pressure on israel to change their policies, in fact, you are probably helping them by making the cause and its support look like a bunch of crazy anti-semites who can be safely disregarded as racist nutjobs.
Fucking things up and leaving has definitely been the US foreign policy for the middle east. The reason for that is leaving them weak for the foreseeable future -- like de-clawing a cat.
If you don't know that, then you are either very young or not paying attention. This is basic stuff.
with what troops?
were *you* ever in the military?
As I said, air force and navy.
There will be no ground invasion of Iran because on its own soil, the US is no conventional match for Iran's armed forces.
Period.
Now -stop opining on subjects about which you are plainly ignorant.
Period. Wow that really told me. I guess you must be right, the US would fall before the might of the Iraniain military.
But as I said before, reality doesnt give a shit what any of you armchair generals think
Yeah, if Dubya was prez again it might be different. We definatley could take Tehran just like we did Baghdad, it is that darn pesky aftermath that is problematic
Not sure if you are a genuine idiot or a satirical genius
Who are you calling an idiot when you claim up thread that you never heard of Oded Yinon and the PNAC boys' "Clean Break"??
Idiot or bad liar? You decide.
Yeah, all nation states have global policy initiatives. They come up with new ones everytime there is a change of regime. I dont have the time or inclination to read every one for every country, if you thinks that makes me an idiot thats your call. The fact that you choose to see this particular one as evidence of some luciferian murderous zio-conspiracy says more about you than it does about the world we inhabit.
Are your views proceeding from logic and analysis of the evidence, or deep-seated emotional responses and pre-established views that grasp at any evidence to build a case ? You decide
Remarkably, your nose is getting bigger.
And reality dont give a shit about downvotes or upvotes either shithead
I didn't dv you, but whatever it takes to fuel that persecution complex.
Sorry that was meant for the cowardly clickers whoever they are not you, just to be clear I am appalled at US imperial actions and hope they quit messing with other countries including iran who have legitimate cause to be pissed at the US and deserve to be left alone, I just see no point pretending the US would struggle to level the place if they wanted
Dont let the door hit you in your zionist ass
Ok you win the award for most pointless post of the day, congratulations numbnuts
Klaatuwept, if by "leveling the place" (sic) you mean saturate the sector with nuclear weapons, yes , in theory USAF/USN could do that.
To what end though, and at what price?
But if you think that US army could ground invade Iran, then no, they definitely couldnt without expenditure of tens of thousands of lives and a long war of attrition.
Of course, it would only be goyim dying, so our fraternal allies in Israel could sit like an effendi and eat.
Yeah, how bout they foment a revolution, lot of young iranians want a more modern less religous state, how's that work for ya ?
And I didnt say anything about nuclear weapons or ground invasions, I said they could level the place with traditional ordnance and anyone pretending different is living in wish upon a star land.
You can save your little buzzwords for your next moron meeting
Damn, I like your avatar..
Yeah! If that's a Zionist ass, i'm gonna want me some of that!
Just like Rome, one day the US will take on the war that will destroy them, financially and politically.
It's the way empires end.
From roisaber: It's not within the realm of conceivability that the USA could occupy Iran, its just not possible.
Iran can be destroyed and turned into another Iraq just as easily as Iraq was turned into present day Iraq. The bombing conducted by the US is many magnitudes beyond that done by Israel, there is no comparison. Iran's general population is more refined that Iraq's was and this will work against them. Iraq had more military "tribes" than I believe Iran to have. Iran's population/culture accepts a centralized govt much more than Iraq's or the Afganis.
So a geopolitical strategy of total war. Huh, I wonder if there would be any economic, geopolitical, terrorist ramifications of that. It ain't going to happen, Dubya can't run for president again...
Oh good grief. I still hear "It's all Bush's fault". Like Obama has been different. Like the next on will be any different.
Until Obama invades Iran and starts with the nation building propaganda bullshit in Iran, it ain't all the same. Iraq was a buffer against Iran one of the easily recognized consequences of the power vacume in Baghdad among many that the NeoCon idiots unleashed. Pretending we are in Orwell's 1984 and that you can re-write and mis-remember history does not cut it here on ZH. BTW I can't stand Obama but that does not negate Dubya's fuckups..We are still dealing with them and probably will be for a 100 years just like Rumsfield said might be necessary...Has Obummer started a full scale war yet?? Maybe I missed it!!
I see you are a satirical genius after all, kudos and i agree with your post. The actions of the Bush neo-con regime has caued the present instability in the middle east and we will be dealing with the aftermath for a long time. Obama has been fire-fighting in his foreign policy as a result and so will the new guy or girl.
You are blaming the glove puppet.
Blame the guy with his hand up inside it.
There is some responsibility attached to the glove puppet if he makes an effort to become one. however.
There's always Jebya.
to paraphrase Mike Tyson, we would bomb them until they loved us... looks like that's going to be a LOT of bombing...
Is there glory to die for Obama's glory?
Don't bother our leader; he's busy eating with his relatives in Kenya.
Why those belligerant Iranians...
...who haven't invaded another country in over 200 years.
They's be a threat. The teevee snake said so.
But BEEBEE's bomb cartoon say's...
Shots will be fired.
Big reset is getting closer. Time to wipe the drool from the banksters mouths.
As incompetent and bumbling as the US military may be, I think Iran would still lose if the US invaded. Yeah, I know the US failed to win in Iraq, but they still destroyed the country anyhow. I imagine something similar would happen in Iran.