Pre-Crime Is Upon Us - "Schools Assess Students' Threat Level" From Kindergarten Up

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Minority Report, eat your heart out. The real system is worse than anyone could have imagined.

By now, everybody knows that the NSA and a host of other alphabet agencies are spying on Americans, collecting virtually every piece of communications data they exchange, regardless of whether or not they are “doing anything wrong.”

But what are they doing with it?

Apart from its value in consumer and marketing fields, the data is used to create “threat assessments” and put a black mark on the record of anyone who the authorities deem troublesome that will follow them throughout their career, and make it harder for individuals to get a job, qualify for a loan, travel, or enjoy the rights of a (now once) free society.

MassPrivateI reports:

Our government want us to believe that EVERY student is a potential threat and we need threat to stop them.




Every student is given a “THREAT ASSESSMENT” by police and school administrators!


Schools and police are using V-STAG to assess a ‘threat level:


“The Virginia Student Threat Assessment Guidelines (V-STAG) is a school-based manualized process designed to help school administrators, mental health staff, and law enforcement officers assess and respond to threat incidents involving students in kindergarten through 12th grade and prevent student violence.”


The war on terror is out of control! Watch out that kindergarten kid could be a threat!

This program and others like it have been developed at the federal level, with FBI involvement, and coordinated across local, state and private organizations. The idea, unfortunately, is to implement this watch-and-flag surveillance grid across the system at every level, and with every institution that people must participate in.

Hey, if it works for prisoners, it would be great for a once free society.

The intent of schools to nurture children and help them to learn and grow into responsible adults has been subverted by an intrusive and paranoid surveillance system that considers every mistake to be a warning of crimes and misdeeds to come.

And by treating everyone as a criminal before they even do anything, it probably creates a self-fulfilling prophecy.

The Secret Service has the audacity to call threat assessing of kindergarten students a safety concern. “The Final Report And Findings Of The Safe School Initiative.”


“The Safe School Initiative” was implemented through the Secret Service’s National Threat Assessment Center and the Department of Education’s Safe and Drug-Free Schools Program.


Every student is being PROFILED and given a risk assessment rating, according to the Secret Services article titled “Evaluating Risk For Targeted Violence In Schools: Comparing Risk Assessment, Threat Assessment and Other Approaches.”


What’s really being said is police and school administrators can put your kid(s) into mental health counseling which will follow them throughout their adult lives! Oddly there isn’t any mention of the school-to-prison pipeline!

Meanwhile, this system is designed to expand throughout a student’s life and merge with other emerging “threat assessment” systems that follow adults in the general population as well.

Colleges nationwide are using ‘Campus Teams’ to give their students sexual threat assessments, there is a “Legal Compliance and Sexual Violence Prevention Training” being held in Boston this July 27, 28th.


“This training will address the critical intersection between compliance with federal laws to address sexual and intimate partner violence, and the role that threat assessment can play in effectively addressing these issues.”

In adulthood, police departments and private employers are now also using threat assessment scores to profile and target against individuals who have raised red flags.

Think it’s just those have committed crimes and demonstrated what bad people they can be? Think again. Dissidents, outspoken critics, competitors and opponents will all get flagged as the system is abused by its controllers and used to hammer down any nail that dares to stick up.

This system will create a society of compliance and fearful people, not a free society free of crime and trouble.

Whether or not this system can actually prevent crime remains unproven, but its ability to tarnish the record of individuals and place entire populations under preemptive suspicion is certain… and likely dangerous.

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JethroBodien's picture

Does this mean BTFATH....

0b1knob's picture

Next thing you know they will require pediatricians to ask preschool children how many firearms their parents own and report that figure to the Feds.

Oh wait....


If you don't eat your broccoli junior, you are a terrorist. 

Seek_Truth's picture

How can you eat your pudding if you don't eat your meat?

Scooby Dooby Doo's picture

Scooby Dooby Doo says everyone be nice peaceful productive citizens.

These scary stories are scarrrring me! Shaggy! The powerful government is going to get us!

AlaricBalth's picture

We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey teacher leave them kids alone
All in all it's just another brick in the wall

erkme73's picture

Homeschooling my 7mo and 27mo is looking ever more appealing...

Seek_Truth's picture

Do it.

No matter the difficulty,

You will never regret it.

Diet Coke and Floozies's picture

Clearly the solution is to stop having kids.

Stuck on Zero's picture

You guys have this VSTAG program completely wrong.  The system identifies perverts, sickos, psychopaths, and the truly evil at an early age so that they can be groomed for government service.

Government needs you to pay taxes's picture

Yes, if you support jihad, hate whites, and show an early bloodthirst, you too could become our Preezy.

Quus Ant's picture

Clearly the solution is to take on the mantle of responsibility and educate our children our own damnselves.  

That is what the system is telling us in its roundabout way- it can't do it anymore, if it ever could.  Now the best the State can do is house our children and try to keep them from killing each other.  To do that they'll need to vaccinate the little buggers like cattle to maintain herd immunity and medicate them to keep them docile and cooperative, but even then some Jonnies and Jillies will grow restive so enter profiling.  And testing.  Endless testing.  What better way to find out if the common core has cored out the mushmelon perched atop your child's neck?   

The state will deliver progressively worse product until the Pooblic gets the message, and given the Pooblic is predominantly state educated  it may take generations for the synapses to fire up.  

In conclusion: Buy a boat.

ebworthen's picture

Too many lawyers...check!

Too many mandarins...check!

Too many sheeple...check!

This kind of bass ackwards insanity is wrought by:  too many people, a lack of common sense, and the three weapons of any despotic regime;

  1. Fear
  2. Guilt
  3. Shame.
Mark Urbo's picture

The real criminals are the leftist teachers.

samsara's picture

"The real criminals are the leftist teachers."


Well, the teachers...   It's a self seeking thing, a self selecting type of thing.  Like the cops.

Does a conservative, entrepreneur, self starter type go into teaching?  No, not many.  

Who does?

There's your answer.

Do a large number of people with a chip on their shoulder, Like being in authority, Type A(ie Just the facts mam) find themselves being cops?

I would say Yes.   It's Self seeking type of thing.

Now the curriculum that they follow, Now WHO developed that?  Not the leftest teachers.

At the highest level I would say you would you find rockefeller, rothschilds et al driving the think tanks, that spew out the "Research Findings" that are crystallized into curriculums..

The "Leftest" teachers are about as responsible for the "Direction" of things as Obama is(or as Bush or Clinton were)

GlobalCtzn's picture



+1000. The above post absolutely nails it. This concept must be recognized, understood, and adopted into your communication tool kit folks. The false arguments that are continuously used to divide the American public are almost all of the nature outlined above. We must raise our awareness, our understanding, and our actions to go after the thinkers, planners, perpetrators, drivers of policy, and stop getting side tracked in the Clintons, Obamas, Bushes, teachers, unions, thugs, labeling bullshit. We need to go after the brain, not the endless minions............. Discernment is incumbant upon each of us.

Arnold's picture

I am surprised your whole post wasn't in caps and boldface.

You may be correct but be rational about it.

In the long run, the left always  eats itself.

Scooby Dooby Doo's picture

Scooby's communication tool kit.


Deathrips's picture

Houghton McMillan is that publishing company....writes 90%+ of every book children will read.



aint no fortunate son's picture

"In the long run, the left always eats itself."

You may wish to consider that in the long run, the right always eats US.

Either way, we of the great unwashed middle class take it up the wazoo. Every freakin time.

And you may also wish to consider that it doesn't matter whether WE are left, right, center or abject, THEY from BOTH political crime syndicates and their bosses in the corporations own our sorry asses. 

Personally, I'm just glad they didn't have those tests back when I was in kindergarten. Ooh, wait, maybe they did - that would explain a lot!

old naughty's picture

Majority Report,

another Tom's sequel - 

dumb down continues...

Handful of Dust's picture

The tried and true method to check for criminal behavior is to feel the bumps on their head and the shape of their dreadlocks. 99% accurate.

boattrash's picture

Erkme, Seek Truth is correct! Our only regret of home schooling; Not having started sooner.

P.S. Do you think these brilliant, omnipotent, cocksuckers have done accurate "risk assessments" of the grandparents?

I don't...

Oh regional Indian's picture

Homeschooling is THE answer. Close second is a alternate system like Waldorf etc., but they have their own cultish beliefs that can warp a child.

But mainstream education....I spent a life-time rebelling.... It's all false....the science, the history, the GEOGRAPHY even.....

Government needs you to pay taxes's picture

I think online courses, similar to the Kahn system, are the future for indoctrination-lite education.  The good news is that an online education system is far less expensive than the gold-plated gym down your street.  

There is a HUGE political cadre supporting the status quo of dipshit public schooling where indoctrination trumps education.  Of course this bloc will reach ever further in order to justify their salary.  'Safety' from those deemed 'dangerous' is merely the beginning of the next chapter.  "Re-education and Wesley Clark's announced internment camps are the next step.  


If our nation keeps heading in this direction, we will all be making a decision:  Will we become a killer or a slave?

wendigo's picture
wendigo (not verified) erkme73 Jul 26, 2015 8:43 AM

Everyone should homeschool their kids. Anyone who sends their children to public school is guilty of child abuse in my opinion. 

Buckaroo Banzai's picture

Anybody who puts their kid in a public school is an irresponsible parent.

Meat Hammer's picture

My kids go to public school and I teach them exactly what to expect and how to deal with it.  They'll learn to walk amongst the enemy, learn about the enemy, and become free thinkers.  My oldest boy (2nd grade) already knows that Abraham Lincoln was a fascist.  I ask him if he says anything in class about it and he says no, he just sings the silly songs and waits for recess.  Most kids aren't as dumb as their parents because their minds are open and they haven't been "educated" back to stupidity yet.

conscious being's picture

MH - that's like people saying they don't mind TV because the advertisements have no effect on them. If you can, you should get them out.

Meat Hammer's picture

I disagree.  Not all public schools are created equal.  I live in a neighborhood of hard-working professionals who pour a lot of money and time into the schools and who will not tolerate their kids being taught "social justice" or any other liberal nonsense.  They aren't enlightened enough to know the truth about the Fed, Lincoln, etc, but they're not progressive douchebags.  My kids are taught the Constitution and the curriculm is great in terms of the 3 R's (well, 2 R's -not math - common core math is useless).  

This may come as a shock, but many ZH commenters, including myself, speak in absolutes when many of the topics are broad and region - even neighborhood - specific.

For the most part, yes, public schools in major cities are progressive shit-holes, but there are a few that are ok, even really good.  It depends on what the parents expect and demand.  If my kid comes home talking about gay rights, someone at his school is going to hear about it.

Also, when I mention the "enemy", I mean the ignorance of glorifying someone like Lincoln. And I know that they will probably be taught more nonsense as they get older because they won't be at this specific school forever, but I want them to know how to deal with it and thrive amongst the ignorant masses.

nibsy's picture

Definitely agree all schools aren't equal.

My oldest, homeschooled until JH was in a great US rural HS and ended up US-Ivy and UK-Golden Triangle. Wouldn't take anyone's BS re social issues of the day, etc. Just that child's nature.

My youngest I couldn't find a good school for until we moved over to Germany. In Germany you can go to school anywhere you want. There's no residency requirements like the US. The youngest found the best school for them, luckily, and ended up with an IB. Just not the dedicated student type, though.

I was lucky because I could always get another job and move at the drop of a hat and my wife was OK with our single income when the kids were young. Many people aren't as fortunate as I am.

Government needs you to pay taxes's picture

I attended one of those US colleges and was repulsed by the mindless indoctrination there.  It was only @ Oxford that I found intellectual freedom.

nibsy's picture

My child liked the UK environment much better. Isn't an indoctrinable type of person, so The US situation was OK.


As a parent I know my child was taken care of very well in both places. Always found work with/for professors, which led to good recommendations. I am very grateful for the opportunities and care in both places.


UK GT universities are a different milieu, i agree. I liked it myself when I visited. It's uplifting.

J Jason Djfmam's picture

Don't worry. Kids in most schools are too worried about "Knockout Game" types ruining their day, to learn anything too subversive.

rejected's picture

Yes, most I ask say their schools aren't like the rest.

greenskeeper carl's picture

Good for you. My oldest is just shy of 2 and I am terrified of sending them to public schools, but I probably won't have a choice in the matter, we both work and it would be difficult to cover everything and be able to save with her doing that for for two kids that are almost 2 years apart.

I wonder about teaching them certain things when they are as young as your son or letting them figure it out on their own. I didn't get any 'Lincoln is a fascist' type speeches at home, but I still managed to figure that out( although it took me until my mid 20s to do so). Nowadays I just worry about getting some unpleasant visits from the school offcials(accompanied be the police, no doubt) because my kid is lecturing his teacher on how wrong she is about everything, cuz if he is anything like me, that's exactly what he will be doing, all the time.

Meat Hammer's picture

Agreed, carl.  I tell my oldest to just nod and smile in class, then come ask me for the truth. He knows that his job is to memorize things for tests and that his real education will have nothing to do with his schooling.

Brazen Heist's picture

"I never let my schooling interfere with my education"
- Mark Twain

Nostradumbass's picture

Initially, I wanted to down vote you but this is Fight Club.

I was a single, custodial father in the 80's and had real misgivings about sending my daughter into the machine. I wanted to home school her but as her sole parent and provider, I had to work and could not find the way to home school her.

What I did do was to tell her what I thought she would encounter in public school and that above all, she was to keep to her own opinions and observations and not be persuaded through bullying or peer pressure and to simply remain respectful of her teachers. If she had any problem at all with school authorities, she could come to me and I would deal with it. I did not pressure her to spend too much time in 'homework' but let her know that school was her job and her responsibility. This back fired somewhat as she took the easier route and ended up completing high school in what was called 'continuation school' in those years. She really thrived there though.

You just love your children, do the best you can by them and spend time talking and LISTENING to them. It goes by so fast. 

We have the best relationship I could have hoped for and she is a great woman and mother today.


Nobody For President's picture

Yep, wife and I took the same tack with our two - parent directed community school we and our friends and neighbors built for the first six years, two years of special schooling before they hit the local smallish high school - they did just fine with their built in bullshit detectors, did fine in college, and are still doing fine as adults.

ZeroPoint's picture

Depends on the public school. If you live under the tyranny of the big cities or the big burbs, your kids will definitely be warped by the system.

I think the better advice is to you keep your kids off:

  • Television - first and foremost
  • Social media
  • Radio

These three influences are teaching children culture and values, which consists largely of spending money and feeling, not achieving. While there is a fair amount of stupidity in the world, there is a much, much larger group of the willfully ignorant. It's too hard to learn or do, so I give up, is the primary programming children receive today.







junction's picture

Schools should be assessing the threat levels of pedophile teachers, cops who beat up students for the sexual thrill they get and administrators who loot school funds.  But it is much more fun to be mean to kindergarten students, they can't fight back.  America has become a country ruled by degenerates who push their transgender agenda.

chisler's picture

Naturally you must: "Keep them balls floating at any cost". (KTBFAAC)

Christianman's picture

LOL...this world is nuts.  I wish I had something profound and smart to say but I don't, I'm a idiot on an idiotic world.

Canoe Driver's picture

I've noticed that the point where many of you deviate from reality is the moment your have your first child. Something about it seems to unhinge the mind. And few, if any, of you can even begin to articulate why you have them. Manifestly, you do not know. People used to have reasons, believe it or not.

Christianman's picture

...I don't have any children . The idiocy of this world just amazes me at times.