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Trump & The Political Risk Of A 3rd Party In 2016

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Submitted by Martin Armstrong via ArmstrongEconomics.com,

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Historically, it has always been the Republican Party that splits. It has been a odd mixture of liberalism from the viewpoint of citizen rights before those of the government and the original constitutional goal of preserving the sovereignty of the states v the the Federalists. This liberal view has often taken the position of Libertarian whereas the so called “liberal” view of the Democrats is not liberal at all, it is liberal with other people’s money in the battle-cry of Marxism. This Republican “libertarian-ism” is what Trump is tapping into as is Bernie Sanders in the Democratic party. Both the traditional Republicans are owned by the NY banks as is Hillary Clinton, in who more people now distrust Hilary than trust her.

 

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This Republican “libertarian-ism” actually traces back to Thomas Jefferson – the ultimate anti-Federalist. Jefferson championed the Bill of Rights that both the Republicans and the Democrats no longer respect as demonstrated by Obama’s actions being indistinguishable from Bush regarding the NSA and both sides called Snowden a traitor.

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The humility of Jefferson further showing his Libertarian views can be demonstrated simply by reading his tombstone.  There is no mention of him being President of the United States. His accomplishments regarding liberty and for his home state are duly noted. He omitted any mention of being President since he was an anti-Federalist.

The Party Republicans are  dreaming of chasing Donald Trump away since he is dominating the agenda and they want this to be politics as usual. What they fail to grasp is the rising resentment of politicians is the resurgence of Jeffersonian Libertarian-ism. Personally, I seriously doubt that mainstream Republicans will even allow Trump to take their ticket. I cannot imagine John Bohner not engaging in some covert action to try to prevent a Republican Trump ticket.

The Republicans keep publicly rebuking the Trump for his inflammatory comments, yet he climbs in the polls. The very reason the majority of Democrats distrust Hillary Clinton is the foundation as to why Trump is so popular. They at least know he is not beholding to Goldman Sachs as both Bush and Hillary are most assuredly. There is no doubt that a Bush or Hillary victory in 2016 will be indistinguishable for both will represent business as usual.

Where Rand Paul could have been a real contender, he seems to have lost his appeal for he too is trying to stay within the party and play politics as usual. The Republicans could chase Trump out and we could end up with a Trump third-party Libertarian surge. That would be the potential nightmare scenario for the GOP which our computer has been warning about for decades into 2016. NO, we are not advising Trump to answer the questions on this topic.

A populist outsider with unlimited resources attacking the Republican and Democrat nominees in the general election will be perhaps the most interesting presidential election of all time. This will be really raising political hell and our computer has been projecting just that but at the same time a rise in the people voting for 2016 attracting votes from both Democrats fed up with Hillary and Republicans tired of politics as usual.

The Republican Party mainstream establishment are out of touch and are not in tune with what is really happening. They cannot grasp they the emperor has no clothes. They are playing with disaster by trying to go after Donald Trump minimizing him and excluding him. They cannot see that times are changing – out with the old and in with the new.

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Trump has become a their favorite punching bag since launching his White House campaign. Questioning Sen. John McCain as a war hero was really spot on. He said:

  • Trump: “He’s not a war hero.”
  • Frank Luntz, interjecting: “He IS a war hero.”
  • Trump, chewing on his words, speaking quickly, with annoyance: “He is a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren’t captured, OK?”

A person who was a true War Hero did something magnanimous. McCain himself has acknowledged that he was a less-than-stellar Skyhawk pilot. He was a bit too reckless, and, had he made better decisions, might have avoided his shoot-down in 1967. Being captured does NOT make someone a war hero. If that is the standard, then it diminishes all those who received the Congressional Medal of Honor for being a real hero. So Trump was actually very correct and any Vet who respects those who went beyond the call of duty to save their fellow soldiers would agree calling McCain a war hero tarnishes the memory those who died saving their comrades by placing McCain in the same category. Sorry – Trump was right on that one.

Trump has repeatedly declined to rule out a third-party White House run, saying in an interview with CNN’s Anderson Cooper earlier this month that he’s constantly being asked to run as an independent. He has said that his decision to run as an Independent will depend on “how I’m being treated by the Republicans.”

If Trump took up a Third-Party, it might be the biggest shot we have at saving the country insofar as it would at least turn Capitol Hill into a new playing field. It really would not matter who the Third-Party candidate would be, Washington needs to be shaken and stirred vigorously to let these people know being a “representative” is supposed to be OF THE PEOPLE, not of yourself, the Party, and government. Whatever it takes to upset the apple-cart, at this point, we need rather desperately for we are headed in a direction that will destroy our future and these morons are demonstrating that they do not get it and are pissed off at Trump for not playing their game of never telling anything the way it is, sugar coat everything, promise the moon, and deliver nothing.

 

 

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Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:02 | 6353990 Looney
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<<< Trump

<<< Clinton or Bush

Looney ;-)

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:04 | 6354001 realmoney2015
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Already starting with the lesser of two evils? Either way you wind up with evil!

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:05 | 6354008 CIABS
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"They at least know [Trump] is not beholding [sic] to Goldman Sachs [et al] as both Bush and Hillary are most assuredly."

How do they "know" that?

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:08 | 6354019 Publicus
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God bless Donald Trump and keep him and his family safe from harm.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:12 | 6354036 knukles
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Right now, The Donald nor any of the other R's are electable. 
None have the broad appeal necessary to poll the far left, left and center.  Just the way it is.
Where's Ron Paul when we need him?  Oh, sorry, the Republicans destroyed him

           Enjoy The Donald Show while you can  He'll fold.  Done it before and will do it again.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:14 | 6354050 realmoney2015
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Rand Paul is polling the best nationwide versus Clinton. Paul, again, is the best chance for the republicans. Looks like they are giving Rand the same treatment as his pops. Blackout.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:16 | 6354064 knukles
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Once his polling gets too good (ie thd donald is out) they'll (both the R and media) dismemmber him.  Just like pops

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:21 | 6354082 PrayingMantis
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... "Trump has become a their favorite punching bag since launching his White House campaign. Questioning Sen. John McCain as a war hero was really spot on. He said:
 •Trump: “He’s not a war hero.”"

     ... at least, Trump courageously followed the narrative the lamestream media wouldn't touch ... and that, according to these links below, the "songbird" McCain should've been charged with treason ...

... >>> http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=22941

... >>> http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/07/john-mccain-is-not-a-hero-manchurian-candidate-his-pow-commanding-officer-submitted-a-charge-of-treason-to-military-prosecutors-3189874.html?currentSplittedPage=0

... >>> http://www.etherzone.com/2008/lebo091708.shtml

...

 

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:26 | 6354095 realmoney2015
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McCain is yesterdays news. Where does he stand on the Federal Reserve and central banks? I'm guessing a man whose fortune is tied to real estate (and the cheap cash that keeps the market afloat) has lots of banker friends he will help if 'elected'

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:40 | 6354149 847328_3527
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I like Trump but Tomi Lahren already has my ...vote:

 

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending-now/conservative-news-anchor-s-mess...

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:06 | 6354230 toady
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Perot 2.0

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:08 | 6354239 macholatte
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Trump cannot win as an independent. He can win as a Republican and can then reconfigure the GOP into the Republican Party instead of the Red Team side of the Progressive Party that exists now. The USA has absolutely no chance of doing anything but descending into the abyss of a banana republic unless the Progressives and the NWO crowd are dismembered. The increase in civil anxiety will eventually lead to a very serious situation as the economy crumbles and sheeple become desperate as America is Fundamentally Transformed into something resembling Zimbabwe.

JMHO

 

 

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 20:11 | 6354369 Stackers
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I have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the State, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally.

This spirit, unfortunately, is inseparable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human mind. It exists under different shapes in all governments, more or less stifled, controlled, or repressed; but, in those of the popular form, it is seen in its greatest rankness, and is truly their worst enemy.

The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty.

Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight), the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.

It serves always to distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration. It agitates the community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms, kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which finds a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions.

 

George Washington - 1796 farewell address

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/washing.asp

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 20:44 | 6354431 philipat
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A Third Paty is a great ides in principle BUT it wouldn't attract many Democrats (Aka The FSA) and would probably put "The Cunt" into Office?

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 21:14 | 6354518 ejmoosa
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It's NOT about winning this election.  It;s about destroying the leadership of the republican party that has been selling us out at every turm.

We need a reboot, then we can proceed.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 21:49 | 6354591 philipat
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So 8 years of Hitlery is OK with you then? I would even vote for Pocahontas if she can put down her Brokerage Account statements for long enough to think clearly. She is the ONLY potential candidate who MIGHT be able to do something about the Banks, which are clearly the root cause of so many of the problems?

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 02:28 | 6355036 the kings whore
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There are only four candidates who aren't Wall Street ass-lickers.  Warren.  Sanders.  Trump.  Paul.  A vote for anyone else is a vote for the status quo.  Suck it, Hedgers.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 12:21 | 6355863 ejmoosa
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Was 8 years of Obama ok with you?  And what do Republicans offer as candidates?  More of the same.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 06:09 | 6355168 BarkingCat
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The Free Shit Army is into TV idol worship.

Trump is a big TV personality. There will be lots of them voting for him. All he has to do is push their buttons and given they are mostly self absorbed morons, it will be very easy for him.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 20:42 | 6354442 palmereldritch
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http://sapiengames.com/2014/08/17/george-washingtons-finest-moment-quote...

George Washington stepping down from office after his 2nd term may have been the single greatest act of leadership in favour of humanity, and over tyranny, in all of human history. Throughout his time in power he’d been given ample opportunity to become the American Napoleon — he chose, instead, to entrust his country to its people.

In the words of his old rival, King George III, upon hearing that Washington might step down:

“If he does that, he’ll be the greatest man in the world.

 

http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/WashingtonFarewell.html 

At his First Inauguration, April 30, 1789,

Apparently, George Washington placed his hand on a Bible opened to Deuteronomy 28.  That page held a warning America would  do well to heed today:   

“Now it shall come to pass, if you diligently obey the voice of the Lord your God, to observe carefully all His commandments which I command you today, that the Lord your God will set you high above all nations of the earth....

“The Lord will cause your enemies who rise against you to be defeated before your face.... The Lord will open to you His good treasure, the heavens, to give the rain to your land in its season, and to bless all the work of your hand. You shall lend to many nations, but you shall not borrow. And the Lord will make you the head and not the tail.... if you heed the commandments of the Lord your God."

Deuteronomy 28:1-14


Does that promise remind you of America?

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 20:54 | 6354464 palmereldritch
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I just had to excise the following part of the above quote from Stackers great comment for emphasis on the genius and experience of President Washington:

The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty.


Disregard such  warnings at your peril

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 05:17 | 6355146 Terp
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@stackers

Awesome quote I never heard before, thx.

If you tell people in Europe that parties are a pest, they look at you funny because they cannot fathom anything different.

This quote sums up the problem perfectly.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 08:16 | 6355260 MickV
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Washington foresaw it all, including the installation of the foreign Manchurian Hussein Obama (born BRITISH), which spelled the end of the Republic.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 20:02 | 6354343 palmereldritch
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But who will be his Admiral Stockdale?

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:48 | 6354179 PrayingMantis
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... "McCain is yesterdays news. ..."

 

... whoa, not so fast ... the songbird is still an active sitting senator from Aridzona, that, whether you dismiss him or not as yesterday's news, is still one of those who "control" US foreign policy affecting the MIC ...

 

... and just a reminder of one of his alleged misdeeds, according to those Vietnam veterans quoted in that beforeitsnews article I posted ...

 

   ... "McCain was hounded by Marine Sgt. Major John Holland, Army Colonel Earl Hopper and the CIA’s Ted Sampley, all dead now, who cited McCain for crimes as serious as planning air defenses for the Hanoi government to aid them in downing American pilots.
 
Hopper credits McCain with helping shoot down sixty American aircraft. Others who served with McCain claim it was John McCain that nearly sunk the nuclear super-carrier USS Forrestal, killing or wounding nearly 300 of the crew.
 
This would be funny if it weren’t true. If John McCain had been around during World War II, the two primary languages in North America would be German and Japanese.
 
During McCain’s time in the US Senate, when it was known that American POWs were still being held in Southeast Asia, McCain worked to block repatriation though evidence of surviving POWs was overwhelming."

 

   ... I don't know where McCain stands "on the Federal Reserve and Central banks", but if those serious allegations against the "songbird" by the vietnam vets were true, well, God bless America if McCain is given the reigns to run the government ...

 

 

 

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:01 | 6354211 realmoney2015
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I want McCain nowhere near power either. But to make headlines attacking him is a little absurd. (not the comment itself, but the reaction to the comment). McCain is not where the discussion needs to go. How about the government not being able to pay its debts? How about who the government owes the debt to in the first place? That's where the discussion needs to be. Trump is getting tons of media attention. He has the power to get this topic to the masses. So why isn't he???

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:06 | 6354228 SWRichmond
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Still trying to figure out how to divide the electorate enough to get a critically-damaged candidate, Hillary Clinton, elected.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:13 | 6354249 macholatte
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The McCain thing was a mistake and will fade away.  Trump will get better at controlling such outbursts.  Let us see how he does at the debate. Until then, he has the center of the stage and scares the shit out of the establishment.

 

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:19 | 6354258 realmoney2015
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Correction. Trump is the establishment. Why else did he support Clinton's 2008 campaign. Or donate money to the linton foundation.

This is exactly what the republicans did in 2012. They wanted anyone to defeat Obama and repeal Obamacare. Who did they wind up with? Romney and Romneycare.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 20:11 | 6354364 Bay of Pigs
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Don't try to introduce intelligence or facts into the conversation here about Trump.

Bunch of retards posting here at ZH now. Just moar sheep.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 20:41 | 6354440 e_goldstein
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 Still trying to figure out how to divide the electorate enough to get a critically-damaged candidate, Hillary  Clinton, elected.

This, absolutely.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 20:01 | 6354342 PrayingMantis
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... "McCain is not where the discussion needs to go." ...

... why not? ... the bottom piece of the article is about the songbird of Hanoi ... the whole Armstrong article hinges on the fact that the Republicans were ostracizing Trump because of his attacks on John Sidney McCain III ... which, in essence, brought up Trump's ... "has repeatedly declined to rule out a third-party White House run" ...

 

 

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 20:16 | 6354379 JacksNight
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I see what you’re saying, but PrayingMatis’s words are not absurd.  Many people are not aware of Songbird Mccain's past.

 

Thanks for the Before Its News article PM.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 20:37 | 6354434 PrayingMantis
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... my pleasure, JN ... cheers ...

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 22:50 | 6354760 StychoKiller
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Do you know my buddy Zorak?

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 01:04 | 6354977 PrayingMantis
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... lol ... Zorak does look familiar ... kinda spaced-out ghost ;) ...

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 22:27 | 6354712 Bazza McKenzie
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McCain's stance on possibly surviving POWs in Vietnam was difficult to understand.  But if he had behaved traitorously, Vietnam would have the evidence to publicly destroy him and thus blackmail him to support its interests.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:28 | 6354108 realmoney2015
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They didn't dismember him. They ignoired him all the way up to the convention. Sure they cheated him out of delegates along the way, but the convention was an all out war versus Ron and the liberty movement he created.

Ron polled better versus than Obama than the entire field throughout the whole race.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:01 | 6354215 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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This is all delusional, it's a zombie-walk to Hitlery, because demographics and the Electoral College:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTC06FmFNCY&feature=youtu.be

 

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:04 | 6354219 realmoney2015
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And remember it's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the vote....the diebold machines.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:36 | 6354133 localsavage
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Rand is anti abortion...he is unelectable

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:43 | 6354164 realmoney2015
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Defunding planed parenthood. That's one reason I like him.

Not even pro-abortion people want to sell the baby parts for profit.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:57 | 6354201 Babaloo
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Turn off Fox and think for yourself.  In theory that's why you're here, but you've proved you haven't learnt the kesson.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:06 | 6354231 realmoney2015
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Actually, I don't have cable and havent for years. I don't see how anyone who want to force people to pay for chopping up babies and selling their parts for profit.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 21:19 | 6354528 greatbeard
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I can't really believe there are idiots as gullible as you but I suppose that's why propaganda is so sucessful. Un-Fucking-Believeable.

 

 

 

 

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:46 | 6354173 Fahque Imuhnutjahb
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You are right about that.  I watched his announcement to run for office, the damn camera shook like the camera man had palsy.  I flipped through all the news channels that was covering the event and the only one

that wasn't shaky was C-SPAN.  Soon as his announcement was over I flipped back through the channels to see the covering correspondents, and low and behold, no camera shaking at all.  Big fucking deal you say.

Well actually it is, because off center framing and shaky cam. are psyops bullshit to make folks uneasy about something.  The chosen media elites DO NOT want this man as president, so of course that makes me

wanna piss in the wind and support him.  Still wish it was his dad, but watered down whiskey beats no whiskey.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:53 | 6354312 kill switch
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What the hell did you think was goin to happen?? I DON'T FUCKING VOTE AS I WILL NOT PUT MY SIGNATURE ON THE SHIT SHOW..

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 23:18 | 6354805 Fiat Currency
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"Rand Paul is polling the best nationwide versus Clinton."

Trump should ask Rand Paul to be his running mate now - that would really shake things up ;-)

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 10:19 | 6355508 realmoney2015
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Yeah, then we would only be one plane crash away from having a decent president.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:16 | 6354063 Looney
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... Where's Ron Paul when we need him?

+1984! Zacktly!!!

Looney

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:39 | 6354142 EBT excepted
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ad much as we like yo' post hea' bruthah, n' 'preciate yo' in site, I shore hopes dis time you be blowin' outcho ass...by d'way...Mistah Paul don' got d'broad appeel nedah...

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:45 | 6354301 Stanley Lord
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You have no idea hat you a writing about.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 21:35 | 6354565 Freddie
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The USA does not have real elections.  The GOP-e won the house and senate and did everything Obola wanted.  You do not have real elections or a real govt. 

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 08:35 | 6355286 de3de8
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I hope he goes "third party" just to see how much of the vote he gets. I know it will be at least one.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:44 | 6354167 Seek_Truth
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Sycophant.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 00:57 | 6354967 Cynicles
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He gets close he will be Arkancided.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 09:33 | 6355406 Bitcoin Meiser
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Psst! Donald Trump has volunteered to run for President as a Republican in order to put a wedge between Republican voters because he is secretly working for the Democratic Party.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:09 | 6354021 realmoney2015
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Right? I mean people appluad Trump for bringing the talking points where no one else where. What about the most important issue of our day (and the last century)? The Fed. Trump has not mentioned auditing or ending the fed once. Until he does, I'm assuming he is just another banker politician.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:16 | 6354065 localsavage
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First, you would have to act like you have no interest doing that or all of the media who are owned by those banks would just start making shit up.  When in office, yu could do it and hope it happened before the assinated you.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:23 | 6354086 realmoney2015
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So you are assuming Trump is for ending the Fed? Even though he has hinted at it one bit. What could go wrong?

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:26 | 6354099 localsavage
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Where did I say that?  I would say that being a real estate developer, he either hates them or has a close relationship with them.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:32 | 6354119 realmoney2015
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Sorry, I must have inferred that. My point is the Federal Reserve is the main problem in America. Most of the other problems stem from that. Until he even hints at his disgust for it, I will assume he is just like 99.9% of anyone who has ran for the office.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:32 | 6354120 realmoney2015
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Sorry, I must have inferred that. My point is the Federal Reserve is the main problem in America. Most of the other problems stem from that. Until he even hints at his disgust for it, I will assume he is just like 99.9% of anyone who has ran for the office.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:23 | 6354088 monad
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They already do make shit up.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 23:57 | 6354889 Bumpo
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Because he doesn't need their money!

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:40 | 6354139 tosser2000
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Kaitlyn Jenner for VP!

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:39 | 6354146 tosser2000
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Kaytlyn Jenner for VP!

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:09 | 6354020 Seasmoke
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Havent all their Kids married Tribe members ??????

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:10 | 6354031 WhyWait
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<<<  Sanders

<<<  Clinton or Bush

                         <<<  Dunno, all I've seen of Sanders is a few snyde comments and scary labels, nothing on the news (or on ZH)

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:12 | 6354039 realmoney2015
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<<< Paul

<<< Clinton, Bush, Trump, Kardashian, Cruz, Sanders, Rubio, Kasich, Obama 3rd term, Walker, etc.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:20 | 6354078 monad
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< Gun

< A note

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:21 | 6354081 monad
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< Politician

< Bankster

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:03 | 6354218 Pure Evil
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I down voted you looney just to be an evil contrarian.

Mon, 07/27/2015 - 14:28 | 6359778 HughBriss
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Honesty is a virtue that you should not have!  ;)

JMHO. 

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:35 | 6354281 rubiconsolutions
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The last time a substantial third party candidate ran was '92 and Ross Perot. Perot siphoned votes from Bush the senior and hello president Clinton. If Trump runs as a third party candidate it'll will lead to another president Clinton, first name Hillary.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 23:39 | 6354850 Two Feet Studs Up
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Nope. Last third party candidate of significance was Jesse Ventura and he won on a state level.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 13:21 | 6356037 11b40
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That is a common misconception, but the exit polling indicated that Perot pulled 50/50 from each party and got a lot of independent voters to vote.

Daddy Bush lost all by himself.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 09:21 | 6355376 newdoobie
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same replay of clinton bush. Who was the first guest of bill clinton after he won the white house??? Good ole Ross Perot!

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:02 | 6353993 Tallest Skil
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Yes! Split the vote! That'll be wonderful for getting elected! The opponent won't just steamroll over you at all! /s

The only mistake Andrew Jackson made was to force winner-take-all EVs in elections. Not that a British-style system that has 20 parties and can get a "president" with only 9% of the vote is good, but the psychotic false dichotomy has to end.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:09 | 6354025 wendigo
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His other mistake was promising war to the Southern states, instead of resolving the nullification issue through a constitutional convention or other legal framework. 

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:15 | 6354056 Farqued Up
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Screw the UK, the UKIP candidate got a respectable percentage of the vote and got only ONE member of Parliament. They're controlled as badly as we.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:10 | 6353995 realmoney2015
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Here we go! The media's favorite! A day can't go by without Trump in the headlines. Today, he didn't even have to open his mouth. Trump willnot bring down the system! He is part of the system!

Ask yourself why and how Trump is a household name. The media!

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:12 | 6354042 kchrisc
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"Ask yourself why and Trump is a household name. The media!"

And the banksters. I have read his bios. over the years, and he is really nothing but a brilliant front man for some of the banksters' fiat-debt loot. I.e. his entire empire depends upon borrowed loot funneled to his projects, and then the buyers of his product. He is a brilliant marketer and practitioner of the "cult of personality" though.

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:16 | 6354061 realmoney2015
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It's fairly easy to be a good marketer when you have the 6 major media corporations supporting your 'empire'.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 20:25 | 6354398 palmereldritch
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Don't blame me. I voted for

President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho


Camacho/Not Sure
2016

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 22:09 | 6354661 palmereldritch
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pluss won essay

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:03 | 6354217 g speed
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And of course he really hates Snowden---says he'll get Vlad to turn him over----I stopped considering Trump when he came up with the impenetrable wall BS. The last wall I remember the one in Berlin was to keep people in, not out---Trump is a very scary fellow with a huge ego and a bad temper-- I think he might want to do good for America but I'm afraid HE will get in the way. As far as banks go --Trump is a speculator and will a friend to the banks--count on it. As for ME policy it looks like he is a bomb um type. 

So this is the Trump platform so far-- Friends with hard line world leaders, decisive actions to curtail freedoms and control populations inside the country, continued persecution of whistle blowers, continue to bomb enemies of the state, continued war on terror, use personal power to negotiate trade (ala Obama and the fast track trade powers acts), fire those who don't perform to his standards ( shades of Joe S), and of course last but not least increase the power of the executive. 

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:06 | 6354010 roadhazard
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Keeping up with the Trump.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:13 | 6354048 CheapBastard
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Well, I'd much rather watch him then the Kartrashians or Jason beeper, or hear more about Al Sharpton's mantra how merikans are so racist. Trump is very refreshing.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:33 | 6354123 realmoney2015
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Just turn off the TV. There is a reason the call it programming!

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 00:01 | 6354896 Bumpo
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Who said it was on?

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:07 | 6354015 kchrisc
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So, a man whose business empire is completely and totally dependent upon the banksters to function and remain viable, is supposedly a candidate against them and their violence-puppets, the DC US government?!

Yeah, and now I'm going outside to watch for flying pigs.

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..

 

I saw this skit in 1992.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:10 | 6354033 Seasmoke
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and we should have voted for Ross Perot too.....

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:15 | 6354055 knukles
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Yes we should have.  Perot, Paul and got Sarah instead of McCain/Obama
Would be better off today for it.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:27 | 6354106 Dollarmedes
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Trump running as a 3rd party candidate WILL SHAKE UP NOTHING, because it won't increase uncertainty. It will make Hillary's election a certainty. If one thinks TPTB will learn a lesson from that, they need to lay off the crack.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:54 | 6354195 Aaronson.Jones....
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Finally someone nails it. Trump is there to do precisely that; split the vote & make it a cake walk for the Southern cabal, with whom he's very friendly. TPTB aren't looking for lessons, they're the ones doing the teaching. Did it with the last Clinton.... twice! Take note other 2 party, non-blatant dictatorship countries..... this is how you roll!

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:43 | 6354298 kchrisc
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With respect, but your very good analysis has led to the wrong conclusion.

Trump and Hillary are smoke-screens for the platform and agenda of the coming much more aggressive, militant, and oppressive neocon regime coming post 2016.

The piece you, and many others are missing, is that CIA-Obama is a manchurian office holder for the said same neocons. This is most evident in his so-called policies and actions--Bush Jr. II.

The next puppet that will reside in the Oval Office has already been selected, and is Perry of Texas. But even if I am incorrect about Perry, the next president will be very intelligent, charming, and a very aggressive and pro-Israel neocon, wrapped and bowed with evangelical Christianity.

Watch for a morality scandal involving CIA-Obama (homosexuality?), and another false-flag with the "too soft on Islam/Iran" message following quickly behind.

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..

 

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 20:18 | 6354386 August
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>>>Trump running as a 3rd party candidate WILL SHAKE UP NOTHING, because it won't increase uncertainty. It will make Hillary's election a certainty.

There's a chance that Trump as third-party candidate could lead to the death of the Rethuglican Party.  This would be no loss to any decent human being, and might, conceivably, lead to the emergence of an actual "opposition party".  But naah... the USA is doomed anyway, thank God.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:12 | 6354038 deflator
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The idiots that sold us out are getting scared because their little enclaves are under attack and are just now==40 years too late looking for a savior and it is Donald Trump???

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:14 | 6354053 H H Henry P P P...
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It is my belief Trump will be the next Hitler.  Not because he will elicit genocide, but it will be due to an overwhelming popularity win, and will have the people amending the Constituton to have him as President indefinitely.

Trump may be the reason why I will finally register to vote.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:18 | 6354072 deflator
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 Trump has no chance--no women and no non Whites will vote for a demagogue.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:37 | 6354134 gammab0y
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No non whites will vote for a demagogue

Have you been to South America?

Or Latin America?

Or the Caribbean?

 

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:52 | 6354299 deflator
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 Isn't living in the United States close enough to being in Latin America, South America or the Caribbean?

Have you been following U.S. immigration policy for the past 40 years?

 

 Maybe should have qualified the statement with--"in the U.S." And, "White demagogue"

 

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:15 | 6354059 aliki
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george bush sr. + ross perot = bill clinton

al gore + ralph nader = george bush jr.

head of GOP needs to do his fucking job & pull ALL fiscal conservatives together INCLUDING the ones he doesn't like - libertarians, tea party, independents, evangelicals, establishment - if the people want trump to be the nominee, so-be-it - that is what a democracy is

I love how the republican establishment says they don't want government to pick winners & losers but they wanna railroad trump so the people don't have a chance to elect him captain.

I lol at the fucking hypocracy

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:42 | 6354154 realmoney2015
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Of course they want the government making every decision. The republicans are no different than he democrates. Remember the scripted 2012 RNC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77W5OKStO5s

Not even the delegates get a vote that counts!

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:31 | 6354269 aliki
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donald trump + any other GOP candidate = 4-8 years of hillary

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:18 | 6354073 monad
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What risk? 1 more year of this shit and the open war begins. The only risk is that the agenda pursued by every administration since JFK will continue.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:29 | 6354110 Fahque Imuhnutjahb
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I'm not necessarily a McCain fan, but he had an opportunity to get out of the POW camp because of who his dad was and he refused to leave his fellow captives, to me that shows some honor.  Where the hell was the

Donald during the Viet Nam Police Action (War)?  I wouldn't run around criticizing folks for something I was too chicken shit to do myself.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:41 | 6354153 gammab0y
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Agreed.  Whatever else to say about McCain, I think most people would agree McCain was heroic for his behavior as a POW.  

Trump was a dickhead with that comment.   It doesn't exclude him from anything - a strong leader should be allowed to say some stupid shit once in a while - but author looks silly trying to defend the comment, all the while ignoring the POW issue.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:09 | 6354240 wendigo
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There's nothing heroic about it. Why? 

 

The honorable thing for him to do, given his experience as a POW, would have been to oppose war at all costs, so as to prevent other people from meeting the same fate as him. Instead, he never found a war he didn't like. 

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:59 | 6354334 Fahque Imuhnutjahb
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I guess I'm not playing up the McCain as hero angle as much as the Trump criticizing him when his ass wasn't there angle.  In other words I'm not gonna go around criticizing Trump for his lack of knowledge on how to

appropriately be a serial bankruptcy filer, when I've never done it. 

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 21:38 | 6354573 g speed
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I don't think Donald's mommy would let him out of the house or I'm sure he would have been there----no??

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 00:04 | 6354903 Bumpo
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If McCain and Graham want to pick fights, don't be suprised if you get punched in the mouth.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 22:14 | 6354678 Bazza McKenzie
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So you believe McCain's version of his behavior as a POW rather than the comments of other POWs.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 22:31 | 6354726 Fahque Imuhnutjahb
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Don't know about all that, just know McCain had an opportunity to go home but didn't(according to what I've read).  Regardless, I wasn't there and neither was the Donald, but McCain was, so the Donald needs to talk

more about what a tough bastard he was when he was in Viet Nam, oh wait--he wasn't fucking THERE, so he needs to STFU.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 22:06 | 6354655 Volkodav
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so avoid illegal war and killing was not correct choice?

"War is a Racket"  Major General Smedley Butler

 

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 22:24 | 6354703 Fahque Imuhnutjahb
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I'm probably wrong, but I don't think Trump's not serving in Viet Nam was as much about moral qualms, as it was about not wanting to be fucked up by Charlie.  He's made a few speeches about spanning the globe,

kicking ass & taking names, so his moral aversion to blood shed must not be at the core of his being, in fact if Smedly Butler worked for Trump, he would be told "You're Fired! Smedly, and you're no hero, and you've got

a stupid name!"

 

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:35 | 6354127 The 22nd Prime
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I always thought he was an asshole. Now I'm pulling for him. Strange times indeed.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:37 | 6354135 monad
Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:42 | 6354138 DosZap
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If Trump took up a Third-Party, it might be the biggest shot we have at saving the country insofar as it would at least turn Capitol Hill into a new playing field.

 

BULLSHIT

 

It would guarantee another Democrat in the White House.

Period,end of that story.

One more Democratic POTUS, and this nation splits and separates,or WORSE.

We have been to this party before,it cost the GOP the White House then, and Perot knew it would(paybacks a bitch), Mr.Herbert Walker Bush.

No more Bush's no more Clintons,and for SURE no more Marxists.

Same results this time times 100.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 20:26 | 6354415 August
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One more Democratic POTUS, and this nation splits and separates....

If you can guarantee that outcome, sign me up as "Ready for Hillary!".  Let's roll....

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:42 | 6354157 MATA HAIRY
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Trump is easily the best major candidate out there....he should easily win the gop nomination and the presidency...

 

however, the only way for the white majority to beat the overclass is via an article 5 constitutional convention of the state legislatures.

 

38 state legislatures would be need to take power back from DC....the GOP currently controls 31...38 is -- in my opinion--doable....however, first the radical middle needs to take over the GOP at the state level

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:49 | 6354183 monad
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The VP pick is critical. Can't be a toadie insider like Sanders et al. Can't be somebody you wouldn't want as president. Has to be an alpha who can run herd on the Senate and the DOJ.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:04 | 6354225 Fahque Imuhnutjahb
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PALIN!!

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 20:00 | 6354339 monad
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No fucking way.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 20:41 | 6354441 Fahque Imuhnutjahb
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Aww c'mon you know you wanna.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 06:14 | 6355170 monad
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I like Alan Keyes. He has it. Locked and loaded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmujttc0oJc

 

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 22:00 | 6354639 Volkodav
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Mr. Trump has told that he knows the right people for the jobs, cabinet and such,

to get the job done... I believe he tells truth and selections will give suprise results..

 

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 20:52 | 6354466 Stormtrooper
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The Article V Convention is being framed as a way to provide a few limits on the existing DC reign of terror I.e. a Balanced Budget Amendment and the like. Since the states are beginning to see the need for an Article V, which would exclude any DC participation, it will be important that they think at a higher level, such as, do the states really need a central government to fulfill their (and their citizens needs) or could they establish common state organizations to do the same thing? Certainly, the Supreme Court has not proven itself to be a defender of the Constitution and should be abolished and replaced with a state run equivalent. If done well, the Article V could result in a much stronger America. If done wrong, it could result in revolution.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:07 | 6354206 Laddie
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Libertarians enable Demonrats to win. They siphon off just enough, as an example the recent Governor's election in Virginia, the Demonrat won due to libertarian getting a tad more than the split between the Demonrat McCauliffe and the GOP fellow.

Ross Perot stated that he entered the race to prevent GHW Bush from winning, seems that they had a Texas feud going. So Ross ran twice and Clinton won twice.

Trump has MILDLY spoken about ILLEGAL immigration. He is FOR legal immigration just like EVERY OTHER GOP Candidate.

Legal immigration is the MAIN PROBLEM as bad as illegal immigration is it is NOTHING compared to LEGAL.

Ted Kennedy is not responsible for the Immigration Act of 1965

https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/

So the mainstream media is acting as if Trump was the Great White Hope. He is not. Do you think the Tribe would permit Whites a way to VOTE themselves out of this HELL? NO!

White California Police Officer shot dead by Mexican gang-banger

A police officer was shot and killed during a traffic stop in the San Francisco Bay area Wednesday morning.

Sgt. Scott Lunger, a 15-year Hayward police veteran and father of two, was responding to an erratic driver about 3 a.m. with another officer when the routine stop turned deadly, authorities said.

“As Sgt. Lunger got out of the car and approached the driver’s side of the vehicle, the driver shot Sgt. Lunger without warning,” Chief Mark Koller said at an emotional press conference.

The second officer was able to return fire into the suspect’s vehicle before that driver sped off, only to dump his vehicle in the nearby city of Oakland, Koller said.

Mark Estrada, a 21-year-old Oakland man who police say has gang ties, was later arrested in the attack.

Twitter has no problems with Farrakhan and other blacks calling for genocide of Whites on Twitter.

Black Youth: You are the generation that the enemy knew was coming. This generation finishes it all.

— MINISTER FARRAKHAN (@LouisFarrakhan) July 21, 2015

UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS
Article 19.

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

However Twitter NOW has a real problem with straight talk about the Tribe and is going to nuke any tweets that do so.

Jerusalem Post:

Over two years of behind-the-scenes dialogue has led the social media organization Twitter to establish an online “Safety Center” to tackle Internet abuse, including racism and anti-Semitism.

The Community Security Trust, a British organization which protects and defends the Jewish community from anti-Semitism, played a key role in the development of the new tool, along with a number of other “trusted organizations.”

Dave Rich, CST’s deputy director of communications, told The Jerusalem Post that while they recognize that there is still much progress to be made in the battle to thwart online abuse, “generally speaking, we have definitely seen an improvement in how Twitter handles anti-Semitism since our involvement [with the project].”

Labor MP Louise Ellman, a Jewish parliamentarian who last year was the victim of anti-Semitic online abuse, told the Post that she congratulated the CST for its work in making it easier to challenge anti-Semitism online. “The growing use of social media sites for anti-Semitic and other abuse is a menace. This development should restrict the use of Twitter to fan the flames of prejudice and hatred,” she added.

Last year, party colleague Jewish Liverpool MP Luciana Berger was repeatedly targeted with online anti-Semitic abuse, and called for strong action by social media companies.

Police subsequently arrested a man from the city who was later jailed for sending offensive messages to her.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:00 | 6354210 FIAT CON
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Rands's biggest mistake was ditching his father and supporting Mitt Dumbney.

 he then lost all the respect of his Fathers following!

 

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 21:44 | 6354590 Anunnaki
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He is an Israel Firster.

Next..l

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:08 | 6354236 FIAT CON
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The US needs a third Party in a BIG way. A new party that is not already in bed with the MIC, the Bankers and is not already corrupted beyond belief.

That is your only way out of this two party corruption.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:10 | 6354242 FIAT CON
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Here in Canada if we have a majority .gov that starts to screw things ie. the people too badly the other two/three parties can gang up and stop the dictatorship.

 

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 21:53 | 6354617 Volkodav
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so why dictatorship going strong there?  and even outside Canada?

example: meddle in Ukraine

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:19 | 6354257 Pancho de Villa
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He's Nothing More than a Trumped-up Carnival Barker!

 

"Step up Rubes! Pay Your Money, See the Show!"

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:26 | 6354263 lordbyroniv
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Oh thats just Martin.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:35 | 6354280 dojufitz
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My money is on the Donkey to win....in this fight he will score more due to the Elephants trunk.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:38 | 6354283 WTFUD
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It's a sad indictment of the state of Vichy DC politics that youz are rootin' for D.T. but it's understandable as there is NO alternative, at least on the current horizon. Donald's foreign policy is to confront Russia, purveying the same or similar sociopathic tendencies/traits as Nuland the cunt and McStain. Can anyone hand on heart imagine D.T. sitting down with Putin? At the end of the day it's all immaterial as nobody can save the USSofA's descent into irrelevancy or mediocrity at best.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 22:08 | 6354663 Bazza McKenzie
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Actually that is not Trump's foreign policy.  He has said publicly that the US should not be interfering in Ukraine, that what happens there is a matter for Germany and Europe.

Mon, 07/27/2015 - 16:49 | 6354700 honestann
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Mostly true, but that is a mischaracterization of what I heard him say about foreign policy.  Basically, it was more like (but not exactly), "carry a big stick, but don't get involved unless there is substantial real interests for the USSA)".  Not saying he knows how to do that, but that's what I heard.

BTW, the entire Iran game is almost certainly total self-serving hype.  Take a look at the history of Iran, and how long it has been since THEY started a war against anyone.  Hundreds of years.

Compare that to the USSA... serial war-mongers.

To be sure, any fictitious nation with nukes might become a problem, depending on who gets in charge.  But the most dangerous of all... by HUGE margins... are the USSA and Israel.

BTW, don't you think Iran knows they would be utterly and completely vaporized if they nuke anyone?  Of course they do.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 23:53 | 6354879 holdbuysell
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Annihilating a country with nukes creates a nuclear winter that destroys nearly everyone else on the planet, regardless of counters. The nuke card is a red herring and the elite know it, unless they want to live in DUMBs for their lives and not enjoy 'their land'. Of course, space is limited.

There will be another way for sorting this out.

An economic crippling of opponents via cyber means seems to be the most fitting.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 19:55 | 6354317 JacksNight
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Great article.

 

Jefferson will always have a place in my heart.  No man is sinless.

 

Pray for Songbird Mccain, and Rand Paul 2016.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 03:45 | 6354322 Jorgen
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Below is the latest tally available. Also, Donald Trump has 3.35M followers on Twitter, Jeb Bush... 236K. I know it is not indicative of winning the election, but at least it gives some idea on their respective popularity. Btw, Hillary has 3.93M at the moment.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 20:05 | 6354330 BigRedRider
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This scumball Trump is playing his ego against the welfate of America.  Although he talks about what Americans feel, he is a hypocrite and a Democrat mole in sheep's clothing.  Trump just thinks about himself.  However, enough low infrmation voters will vote for this loser thus shedding Republican votes to Clinton. 

Ross Perot pulled the same stunt in 1992, knowing he could not win the presidentcy, thus pulling votes from George HW Bush to allow the sleezeball Billy boy Clinton to become president.

 

Like Laocoön said in the Aeneid,  timeo danaos et dona ferentes...Trump is that Democrat Trojan Horse.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 20:10 | 6354358 WTFUD
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It's all irreverent. Bring on the ticker-tape streaming. Out with the old and in with the new old same same. Do i need a loud speaker to tell you the party's over and nobody gives a fuck about your DemPubs Crock-O-Shit?

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 20:13 | 6354372 djsmps
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To me, Trump has all the ideal qualities of a facist dictator. He is delivering a message many people want to hear, as did Obama. He's a blowhard that publicly will not suffer his opponents. He has a supreme ego. And he wants the final prize: Trumpmerica. And people may allow him to get that. He's a very dangerous person.

Sat, 07/25/2015 - 20:25 | 6354409 i8emallup
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By this time everyone must know that of course, Donald Trump is going to run in a third party. Donald Trump is the Manchurian Candidate and has now been activated.

 

Just as greedy billionaire Ross Perot was recruited by Rubin, Greenspan, summers, et al,  so that Bill could win in 92, greedy blowhard billionaire Trump has been recruited by the puppet masters of Hilary so that she can win. Good luck and have a happy day.

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