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Donald Trump's Top 30 Insults

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Amid the 16 (yes sixteen!) candidates for Republican Presidential nominee, there is one, and only one, that stands above the rest in terms of sheer un-filtered, un-political, and some would say un-presidential outspoken-ness. In an oustanding aggregation of abuse, The Hill has documented Donald Trump's Top 30 insults (so far in the 2016 campaign alone).

In no particular order...

  1. Former President George W. Bush: — “You mean George Bush sends our soldiers into combat, they are severely wounded, and then he wants $120,000 to make a boring speech to them?” asked Trump on July 9, after reports the former president charged a vets group for a speech. “Bush didn’t have the IQ [to be president],” he added on June 16.
  2. Former Gov. Jeb Bush (R-Fla.) — “I’m not a big fan. The last thing we need is another Bush,” Trump said on June 16. Trump's account also retweeted an insult to Bush’s wife on July 4th: “@RObHeilbron: @realDonaldTrump #JebBush has to like the Mexican Illegals because of his wife.” It was later deleted.
  3. Hillary Clinton — “Hillary Clinton was the worst secretary of State in the history of the United States," Trump told Business Insider. His account on April 16 also retweeted an attack on Clinton: “@mplefty67: If  Hillary Clinton can’t satisfy her husband what makes her think she can satisfy America?” Trump said a campaign staffer was responsible and deleted the tweet.
  4. Anderson Cooper — “What a waste of time being interviewed by@andersoncooper when he puts on really stupid talking heads like Tim O'Brien-dumb guy with no clue!” Trump tweeted on July 22 after his interview with the CNN anchor. During his interview, Trump told Cooper: "The people don’t trust you and the people don’t trust the media."
  5. Bill Cosby — Trump said he believed the sexual assault allegations against the comedian, calling him "guilty as hell." “I’ve known him, and I’ve never liked him,” Trump said in a July radio interview. “I think he is a highly overrated guy, both in talent and in many other ways,”
  6. Des Moines Register — After the paper called on Trump to drop out, he dismissed it as a "sophomoric editorial" and called their coverage "uneven and inconsistent, but far more importantly, very dishonest."
  7. Forbes Magazine “Why does a failed magazine like @Forbes constantly seek out trivial nonsense? Their circulation way down. @Clare_OC,” Trump tweeted on July 9.
  8. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) —"What a stiff, what a stiff, Lindsey Graham. By the way he has registered zero in the polls,” Trump said, at a campaign speech in Bluffton, S.C. on July 21. “A total lightweight. In the private sector, he couldn’t get a job. Believe me. Couldn't get a job. He couldn't do what you people did. You're retired as hell and rich. He wouldn't be rich; he'd be poor.” Trump also shared Graham's personal cellphone number and said he had begged him to help get on Fox News's "Fox and Friends." "What's this guy, a beggar? He's like begging me to help him with [the show] 'Fox and Friends.’” Trump said of Graham on "CBS This Morning," on July 21.
  9. Jonah Goldberg — “Jonah Goldberg @JonahNRO of the once great @NRO#National Review is truly dumb as a rock. Why does @BretBaier put this dummy on his show?” Trump tweeted, criticizing the conservative columnist on April 20.
  10. Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman — Trump said the Mexican drug lord would be no match for him. “Can you envision Jeb Bush or Hillary Clinton negotiating with 'El Chapo', the Mexican drug lord who escaped from prison? ...Trump, however, would kick his ass!” he tweeted on July 12. Trump later called in the FBI after a death threat from a Twitter account associated with Guzman.
  11. Arianna Huffington — “The liberal clown @ariannahuff told her minions at the money losing @HuffingtonPost to cover me as entertainment. I am #1 in Huff Post Poll,” Trump tweeted on July 18.
  12. Penn Jillette — After the magician and comedian criticized Trump, he responded on July 16, tweeting: “I hear @pennjillette show on Broadway is terrible. Not surprised, boring guy (Penn). Without The Apprentice, show would have died long ago.” He then followed up with, “I loved firing goofball atheist Penn @pennjillette on The Apprentice. He never had a chance. Wrote letter to me begging for forgiveness.”
  13. Ohio Gov. John Kasich (R) — “What people don’t know about Kasich- he was a managing partner of the horrendous Lehman Brothers when it totally destroyed the economy!” Trump tweeted on May 20.
  14. Charles Krauthammer — “One of the worst and most boring political pundits on television is @krauthammer. A totally overrated clown who speaks without knowing facts,” Trump tweeted about the conservative writer and Fox News contributor on June 4. A tweet a day later called him a "dumpy political pundit" and took issue with Krauthammer's support for the Iraq war. Krauthammer brought on Trump's ire by mocking his then-low standing in the polls.
  15. Bill Kristol — When the Weekly Standard editor belittled Trump’s chances against Hillary, Trump responded on July 23, tweeting, “Bill, your small and slightly failing magazine will be a giant success when you finally back Trump. Country will soar!”
  16. Mitt Romney — “Why would anybody listen to @MittRomney? He lost an election that should have easily been won against Obama. By the way,so did John McCain!” Trump tweeted of the 2012 Republican nominee on July 18.
  17. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) — “He’s not a war hero,” Trump said at a rally on July 18. “He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.” This followed a July 16 tweet saying, “@SenJohnMcCain should be defeated in the primaries. Graduated last in his class at Annapolis--dummy!” The insults came after McCain said Trump had "fired up the crazies" on immigration.
  18. Macy’s — Trump called for a boycott after the department store dropped his men’s clothing line. "I hope the boycott of @Macys continues forever. So many people are cutting up their cards. Macy's stores suck and they are bad for U.S.A.,” he tweeted on July 16. “Boycott @Macys, no guts, no glory. Besides, there are far better stores!” he tweeted later.
  19. Mexico  — Trump lambasted the southern neighbor. “The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else’s problems,” he said on May 30 at his campaign launch. “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.” The remarks led a number of businesses to cut their ties with him. He doubled down after the escape of a top drug kingpin. "It's a corrupt place," Trump said on July 17. "It's a terrible court system." "Let's put it this way," he added, "I'm not going to Mexico."
  20. President Obama — Trump has long said he is not sure Obama was born in the U.S. and slammed his policies, calling him the "worst ever president." Obama hit back at the 2011 White House Correspondents Dinner, mocking Trump who was in attendance. But Trump hasn't let up. During the Baltimore riots in April this year he tweeted: “Our great African American President hasn’t exactly had a positive impact on the thugs who are so happily and openly destroying Baltimore!” He also Obama to leave office early and golf on one of his many courses. “If he’d like to play, that’s fine. In fact, I’d love for him to leave early and play. That’d be a very good thing,” he said at his campaign launch in June. After the Chattanooga shooting, Trump pressed Obama to lower the flag for the victims. "We have a president who just can't say a few words: 'Put the flags at half-mast for the five Marines that were just killed.' Why? Why? Why?” Trump said at a South Carolina rally on July 21. “It's almost like, does he read the papers? Does he watch television?"
  21. Lawrence O’Donnell — “Dopey @Lawrence O’Donnell, whose unwatchable show is dying in the ratings, said that my Apprentice $ numbers were wrong. He is a fool!” Trump tweeted on July 16 of the MSNBC host.
  22. Former Gov. Rick Perry (R-Texas) — Perry has been a tough critic of Trump's rhetoric on immigration. “Rick Perry failed at the border. Now he is critical of me. He needs a new pair of glasses to see the crimes committed by illegal immigrants,” Trump tweeted on July 5th. On July 16, he added, “@GovernorPerry failed on the border. He should be forced to take an IQ test before being allowed to enter the GOP debate.” "He's doing very poorly in the polls. He put on glasses so people will think he's smart. And it just doesn't work! You know people can see through the glasses," Trump said at a rally on July 21.
  23. Former Gov. George Pataki (R-N.Y.) — Trump tweeted that Pataki "couldn’t be elected dog catcher if he ran again—so he didn’t!” Trump tweeted July 1. He followed up with: “.@GovernorPataki was a terrible governor of NY, one of the worst -- would’ve been swamped if he ran again!”
  24. Karl Rove — Trump went off on the Republican strategist's record in 2012 record. “@KarlRove wasted $400 million + and didn’t win one race—a total loser.@FoxNews,” he tweeted on July 16, followed by “Irrelevant clown @KarlRove sweats and shakes nervously on @FoxNews as he talks ‘bull’ about me. Has zero cred. Made fool of himself in '12.” Trump even called out the network: “@FoxNewsYou shouldn’t have @KarlRove on the air—he’s a clown with zero credibility—a Bushy!”
  25. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) — “[Sanders] knows the country is ripped off. And I know the country is being ripped off,” Trump told The Hill on July 23. “The difference is that I can do something about it and he can’t. He’ll never be able to negotiate with China.”
  26. Republican National Committee — “The RNC has not been supportive. They were always supportive when I was a contributor. I was their fair-haired boy,” Trump toldThe Hill on July 23. “The RNC has been, I think, very foolish.”
  27. Chuck Todd —“I hear that sleepy eyes @chucktodd will be fired like a dog from ratings starved Meet The Press? I can't imagine what is taking so long!” Trump tweeted on July 12 about the "Meet the Press" host.
  28. Univision — “@Univision cares far more about Mexico than it does about the U.S. Are they controlled by the Mexican government?” Trump tweeted on June 26 after the network cut ties with him over his immigration remarks. “Has anyone seen the financials of @Univision. They are doing really badly. Too much debt and not enough viewers. Need money fast. Funny!” he followed up on July 11.
  29. The Wall Street Journal — Trump has had a long feud with owner Rupert Murdoch. After the paper questioned his candidacy, Trump tweeted on July 20: “The ever dwindling @WSJ which is worth about 1/10 of what it was purchased for, is always hitting me politically. Who cares!”
  30. Juan Williams — @TheJuanWilliams you never speak well of me & yet when I saw you at Fox you ran over like a child and wanted a picture,” tweeted Trump on July 3 of the Fox personality.

Perhaps just as troubling for The Republican Party:

Donald Trump leads in New Hampshire with 21% support of potential Republican voters, according to NBC News/Marist latest polls. Jeb Bush has 14%, and Scott Walker 12% in New Hampshire

It appears abusing McCain's war-record did nothing to dent Trump's popularity (except in the media).

 

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Sun, 07/26/2015 - 12:49 | 6355926 williambanzai7
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The liberal clown...

LOL!

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 12:59 | 6355953 KnuckleDragger-X
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Just a demonstration of our (very) low expectations. At this time I'd really like to see a Trump vs Sanders match up to while away the time while the world burns.....

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 13:03 | 6355966 Publicus
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God bless Donald Trump and keep him and his family safe from harm.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 13:15 | 6356008 Looney
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During Presidential Debates all candidates should be strapped to electric chairs triggered by lie detectors. ;-)

Looney

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 13:23 | 6356044 Atlas_shrugging
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Trump.  Because, yeah.  We haven't had enough of vindictive demagogues in office using their power to intimidate and get even.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 13:32 | 6356066 Stuck on Zero
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Maybe Trump could import Nigel Farrage to be VP.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 14:12 | 6356186 strannick
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If this quote collection is supposed to make

 me love Trump, it worked.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 14:38 | 6356243 keremetski
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31. Amarosa

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 15:07 | 6356323 realmoney2015
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Here's a reason not vote for him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmM4ZBoppNQ

He is using government power for his benefit BEFORE holding office. Imagine how much worse it can be if he were actually given the reigns formally.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 15:28 | 6356383 James_Cole
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Continuing with my theory that trump is possibly funded by the dems.. the guys biggest insult to hillary is that she was "worst sec state" and his comment on Sanders “[Sanders] knows the country is ripped off. And I know the country is being ripped off,” Trump told The Hill on July 23. “The difference is that I can do something about it and he can’t. He’ll never be able to negotiate with China.” isn't really even an insult, back handed compliment at most. 

Meanwhile he's on a TEAR against the repubs. Don't get me wrong, him throwing shit all over that mentally deranged clown show - i mean political party - is funny as fuck, but doesn't anyone else notice the disparity between his going after the r's vs. the d's? He'll be out before a nom is made pretty much for sure, making it less likely he'll start going after the ds in any real effort at all.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 15:36 | 6356402 macholatte
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Emphasizing the importance of Millennial voters in upcoming elections, progressive activists spoke to a nearly empty auditorium at the College Democrats of America annual conference on Friday.

 

Are they Democrats or Progressives? Is there a difference?

DNC speaks to empty College Democrat event

http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=6693

 

At least Trump knows who he is and speaks his mind. Some of those "insults" were merely statements of fact.

 

 

 

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 15:42 | 6356423 James_Cole
Sun, 07/26/2015 - 18:09 | 6356681 Supernova Born
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There is a cabal worth of warmongering Neocons getting ripped in those insults.

Good for Trump.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 18:22 | 6356854 Never One Roach
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So far he's looking like the best choice ....

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 18:26 | 6356864 realmoney2015
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Trump said that he would attack Syria, send in the oil comapnies, and take the oil. He is a warmonger himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTT9-I4FQG0

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 18:39 | 6356905 realmoney2015
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Here are some reasons that the establishment, including Trump, want war with Syria: http://popularliberty.com/5791/syrian-girl-8-reasons-nwo-wants-war-syria

Hint: New World Order

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 18:46 | 6356921 realmoney2015
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What would happened if they had a war and nobody showed up to fight? Until we demand peace, we will get more war.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 21:38 | 6357361 Keyser
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The enemy of my enemy is my friend... Everyone Trump targeted on this list is my enemy, so by default, he is my friend... The best thing about Trump is that his rhetoric will change the platform for the '16 elections... He is raising topics that other candidates will have to address, instead of sweeping under the carpet... 

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 22:22 | 6357470 Laowei Gweilo
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I never really liked Trump before and I still think he's a bit of a douche...

and I'm not American

but if I was... I think I'd vote for him because at least he says his piece and he's not another Lib or Rep zombie

Mon, 07/27/2015 - 00:39 | 6357812 Four chan
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tyler loves hillery and hates trump? got it.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 21:33 | 6357352 Sparkey
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We don't want to hear that! Easymoney, if you could get some real money you would take it to!

Mon, 07/27/2015 - 10:29 | 6358856 Prince Eugene o...
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The Empty Rooms Of Ashley Spillane

Millennials are the “Get Shit Done Generation?”

Fully half have been killed In Utero. http://tinyurl.com/qarjx78

Mon, 07/27/2015 - 14:45 | 6359843 monad
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Thats Tsanders

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 17:57 | 6356773 Pickleton
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Are they Democrats or Progressives? Is there a difference?

 

They are one and the same.  Progressivism swallowed the democrat party years ago and is basically done finishing of the republican party too, althought there are a few of them out there that aren't progressives.

 

"At least Trump knows who he is and speaks his mind."

Which would be a democrat in sheeps clothing, bamboozling a lot of stupid republicans into thinking he's wonderful just because he's not afraid of talking back to the media.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 19:08 | 6356981 Pancho de Villa
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Dem/Rep's Spit!  Trump Swallows!

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 18:22 | 6356849 palmereldritch
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Great insight realmoney.

Given his manipulative and insulting nature, I can see the tag Condemnation is a necessary evil coming back to bite his elite ass.

Trump
Condemn Nation 2016

America...the shining casino parking lot on the hill

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 21:21 | 6357321 Sparkey
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Realmoney2015, everybody who can uses Government power for their benefit, that is how it works today, everyone does it if they can, I don't know the facts, but 'The Donald' would have been stupid to not get some of the cash when it was going around, what ever he did couldn't have been too serious or we would have heard of Indictments or something!

Mon, 07/27/2015 - 17:39 | 6360490 cinderalle
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just watched the video, you are so right, all these freaks are the same! they tell you what your itching ears want to hear and that is what Mr bad hair is doing

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 18:07 | 6356794 Dr. Everett V. Scott
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In almost every example cited, Donald Trump was responding to attacks instigated by others:

"After the magician and comedian criticized Trump, he responded..."  &etc.

Lindsey Graham called Trump a "jackass".  Trump then trashed Graham, instead of turning the other cheek.

What do people expect?  We finally have a fighter who doesn't take that crap from people. When they insult him he gives it back to them with both barrels. People like that; just look at the poll numbers.

The Republican establishment disregards Ronald Reagan's "11th Commandment": don't speak ill of other Republicans. Why not? Because the Dems will always do that — it's their job.  It's not the job of R's to attack their own (and IANAR).

The news media gets the vapors and almost faints when Trump barks back when he's been insulted. They want him to bend over and take it instead. It's high time we had a fighter running the country, instead of a race-baiting, tribalist, islamic "community organizer" — or a woman with absolutely zero accomplishments to her credit.

Donald Trump has balls, and people are responding to that. It's refreshing after seeing all the carreer politicians in both parties who are afraid to say anything decisive, or take a stand without running it by their focus group and their in-house pollster first.

Go Donald! Shove it up their fundaments so far they have to gargle to get it out.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 18:56 | 6356948 The 22nd Prime
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+1

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 21:20 | 6357319 Son of Loki
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They hate Trump for his freedom.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 20:57 | 6357264 Sparkey
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A lot of folks are getting nervous of 'The Donald', and a lot of anti 'The Donald' posters seem to have the cadence and logic of paid posters trying to bend the herd to their Master's will, it won't work, people don't like 'The Donald' because of his policies or even his money, people like him because he isn't one of 'Them".

America is tired of 'Them' with their hand picked candidates, this Guy is new, brash and unafraid, he is will ing to step up to the plate and take a turn at bat for team America, lots of Americans want him on the team and a a lot of Americans are willing to give him a chance, how much worse could he be? Yet, because he is a different, no nonsence kind of guy perhaps he can help us and lead us to a brighter future, a Future that doesn't revolve around sell ing babies body parts and children, are you willing to give him your support, lots are willing, yet many, irrationally  fearing  a change of course will follow the well trodden path.

What is going to happen? since it hasen't happened yet no one knows for sure!

If he makes it to the Oval Office I think he will be the first one to keep a pistol on top of the desk, no nonsence with this guy, just what we need!

Many people

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 21:27 | 6357329 Son of Loki
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The Don is a relatively unknown on the political scene and we don't really know what he would do once elected.

 

However, both Jeb and Hillary are known. Thgat's why the peeples are favoring The Don. I don't think it can get any worse then it is right now.

 

However, if Jenny McCarthy runs she will definitely have my vote!

Mon, 07/27/2015 - 00:16 | 6357755 CheapBastard
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Trump's not slowing down: He's up big in N.H., and close in Iowa

 

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-not-slowing-down-hes-up-bi...

 

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 14:11 | 6356188 God
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God says:
If these aren't 30 solid reasons to vote for this gentleman you're brain dead. Go forth and redeem.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 17:04 | 6356629 HonkyShogun
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I'm voting Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho for president.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 17:56 | 6356758 813kml
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Mr. Camacho would be the highest floating turd in this shitshow.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 19:30 | 6357022 Pancho de Villa
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Bullshit! Nigel would have Nothing to do with This AssClown!

Mon, 07/27/2015 - 00:29 | 6357788 Peelingtheonion
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PTI,

Nigel certainly would be complimentry to Trump in his afront to Obama....Obama knows that the U.K is a vassel state.... as he using his powers of persuasion to influence  the outcome vote of the Brexit of the E.U.....just goes to prove that the U.S. is a vassel state of Israel...as BiBi did the very same thing concerning Iran...except BiBi also muscled his way front and center to deliver Israeli propaganda to his congressional conscripts...

http://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/593617/Nigel-Farage-Bara...

 

the comments have a familiar ring to it....just replace the subject...

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 13:47 | 6356120 JLee2027
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Trump is clearly appealing to the rising anger of the American people at the current set of pols and their media lapdogs. If the voting is honest, he wins big.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 14:10 | 6356185 Lurk Skywatcher
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Trump is being used to show the ungrateful masses that they cannot possibly be trusted to vote on such an important thing as a presidential election.

His winning will be annulled, and from then on all decisions will be made by a commitee of those who can be trusted.

Just like it always has been, but now openly and out of the shadows. And the American people will cheer and celebrate and chant "USA! USA! USA!"

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 20:21 | 6357163 MontgomeryScott
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Don't worry. Pointing out the truth isn't popular, and people won't admit the truth to themselves.

There was this 'presidential campaign', once upon a time, WAY BACK (in the year 2000), where the Supreme Court of a PARTICULAR STATE (Florida, I believe) decided the outcome of the national selection.

We COULD have had St. AL GORE (THE HOLY AGW GREEN SAVIOR); and BOY, wouldn't have THAT been different! Well, not ACTUALLY different than it is NOW.

MOST people are stupid and lazy and ignorant regarding the TRUTH.

You see, your fanciful 'conspiracy theory' has already been IMPLEMENTED (12 years ago, and to the current time). I REMEMBER 'hanging chads'. Does anyone else?

It can't happen again, see, because DEIBOLD (the company that programs slot machines for Vegas) is (or rather WAS, before the voting machine unit was sold off to an anonymous group/cabal) insuring that the vote-counting is totally, um, 'honest'. Yeah, RIGHT!

Have you ever wondered how the U.S.S. Enterprise E would fare against the 'Death Star'? I wonder how the Death Star would fare against a Borg Cube.

To those who downvoted like your comment, you are 'Lurkutus Of Borg'.

'MERIKUH! FUCK YEAH!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX5ZRE26YWM

 

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 15:17 | 6356342 CognacAndMencken
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Trump is clearly appealing to the rising anger of the American people.......   

No.  That's NOT it.  

Having Donald Trump at the top of the GOP polls proves -- yet again -- the lunacy of the American right-wing.  There's no mystery why Trump is popular among the GOP.  He, along with Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman, Ted Cruz, Rick Perry, etc. appeal to the kentucky fried Amuuurican voter who doesn't care about anything other than lower brain-stem politics, complete with Twitter flame wars and YouTube shouting matches. There's a lot of backwater Amuuuricans who are easily persuaded by carnival barking clowns standing on soap boxes shouting insults and over-used talking points rather than real, workable politics.

Donald Trump is the GOP's new Sarah Palin 2.0

 

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 15:32 | 6356395 James_Cole
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Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman, Ted Cruz, Rick Perry, etc. appeal to the kentucky fried Amuuurican voter

Yeah, but those ones aren't funny. They're crazy / sociopathic / religious fundamentalists. Trump is actually funny, the more I see him the more I'm convinced it's intentional. As i've said many times there's 0% chance he'll win a general election meaning there's little chance of him getting the party nom. Those ones you listed (shudder) theoretically could get elected.

Mon, 07/27/2015 - 00:47 | 6357721 Pancho de Villa
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WOAR: "If someone steals my sheep, I'm going to kill them."

 

Yeah, I think that's just a bit extreme, and very possibly illegal?

I meam, the Saudi's only take an arm for that, no?

 

Oh yeah, and Trump IS Funny...     in a "Crazy / sociopathic" kinda way.   LOL

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 15:59 | 6356479 shovelhead
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"There's a lot of backwater Amuuuricans who are easily persuaded by carnival barking clowns standing on soap boxes shouting insults and over-used talking points rather than real, workable politics."

 

And we're living with 2 terms of the Magic Negro as a result.

Well done.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 16:33 | 6356535 CognacAndMencken
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Magic Negro?

It's difficult to believe people like you still exist in 2015, yet it further proves my point about the character of the typical Amuuuurican GOP voter.  

Bunch of backwater, bigoted, racist hillbillies still bitter about the Civil War.

Perhaps you should watch the Sapolsky lectures, and you might learn something about why you act the way you do:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoA4hJpgDzU

 

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 17:23 | 6356690 WOAR
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"Perhaps you should watch the Sapolsky lectures, and you might learn something about why you act the way you do:"

I see nothing wrong with being a nomadic pastoralist.

If someone steals my sheep, I'm going to kill them. If someone tries to attack me to take my sheep, I will destroy them, and make them an example.

If someone is going to make me waste my time in the fields, take my hard work, and make me work for nothing while they steal the benefits, they deserve to die. Those who live like that are dishonorable.

Again, I see nothing wrong with that way of thinking. The herd of evil needs culling.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 19:40 | 6357041 James_Cole
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If someone steals my sheep, I'm going to kill them. If someone tries to attack me to take my sheep, I will destroy them, and make them an example.

Your occupation in 2015 USA is sheep herding? I wonder if that's a common occupation among zh'ers, explains a lot.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 19:48 | 6357062 Billy the Poet
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They told him in school to pick a job he loves so he chose sheep.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 23:05 | 6357586 WOAR
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Hrrm... :/

I don't think you understand.

The point is, people who produce things shouldn't stand by and let thieves steal from them. If they stand around and let it happen, they essentially create a system where thieves will flourish, and the productive people will die off.

It's a parasitic system...unless you purge the thieves.

Stop rewarding evil! Reward the good, productive people, and punish the thieves! It's the only system that makes sense.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 23:43 | 6357680 Billy the Poet
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I made that comment entirely for the laughs.

Ha!

Mon, 07/27/2015 - 00:18 | 6357762 Pancho de Villa
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It was funny! Thanks Pilgrim!

 

I remember a comment you made about Vonnegut's cynicism in Galapagos and other of his later novels... Bluebeard is maybe my favorite and it was written later. Perhaps, only because I'm an artist myself? ...but check it out.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 20:38 | 6357207 MontgomeryScott
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Your occupation in 2015 is to destroy those who herd sheep, apparently.

Woolen clothing and lamb chops don't seem to be very important to you, I guess.

Why stop THERE?

I'm the CHIEF ENGINEER of a STARSHIP (a glorified mechanic/electrician/plumber). I'M the one that you go to when your car doesn't work any more, or your toilet doesn't flush, or the television doesn't turn on. Of course, those who herd sheep are the ones that produce the fucking FOOD that you eat, so they aren't important EITHER.

FUCK YOU, 'James_Cole', you worthless non-producing parasite who deals in fiat currencies and the souls of mankind!

 

Sheepherders and Engineers also know how to use implements of self-protection (personal protection devices) against assholes like YOU who like to try to belittle both the persons AND the larger COMMUNITY here on ZH.

SHUT THE FUCK UP. GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE.

FUCK YOU (did I already say that? MY BAD!).

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 18:01 | 6356790 Pickleton
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"Magic Negro?

It's difficult to believe people like you still exist in 2015"

 

Oh let me guess, you watch NOTHING involving black people in the media that are much worse when they talk about whites.  Including Meliss Harris Perry, Hussein, Sharpton, Jackson and many, many more.

You're a low-info imbecile, plain and simple. Must be why you've swallowed that democrat bullshit, hook line and bukaki.

 

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 18:08 | 6356813 RiverRoad
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No one goes to jail for sayin' "Honky".....

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 18:42 | 6356915 Arnold
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"David Ehrenstein, an African-American columnist for the Los Angeles Times."

 

 

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/eric-ames/2011/08/03/sherri-shepherd-mistak...

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 18:56 | 6356949 bilejones
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You are an ignorant fucker, aren't you?

It was an idiot liberal

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 21:19 | 6357318 acetinker
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It seems you are educated well beyond your capacity for comprehension.

More like AbsintheAndMencken, if you ask me.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 16:09 | 6356499 Oquities
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they are simply happy to hear plain talk about bad trade deals and open borders and nation building needing to be reversed.   with a side helping pf "fuck you" to the established pols.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 19:51 | 6357072 Billy the Poet
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Ron Paul was a far better man and a more convincing plain talker than Trump. The media blackballed Ron (except when they called him a racist) but the media eats up Trump. The media talks about Trump all the time. The media can't get enough Trump.

Does that get your wheels turning?

Mon, 07/27/2015 - 17:58 | 6360544 HopefulCynical
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Agreed. The media clowns know that Trump's whole act is just for show. He's there to insure that we get stuck with Bush/Clinton 2016. And they're all down with that.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 20:25 | 6357165 chubakka
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yeah like the lunacy of the left wing when Obama was at the top.  Trump is to the repubs and conservatives as Obama was to the liberals.  and so the pendulum swings.  lets hope that if he actually wins he actually delivers and isnt the windbag i think he is. 

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 21:43 | 6357372 Sparkey
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Chubakka, dream the dream now, all dreams turn into night mares eventually, the trick is to enjoy it now don't spoil the fun by anticipating furture problems, God knows we'll have enough of them then!

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 22:30 | 6357495 neidermeyer
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Trump appeals because we know he means what he says ... he's a blowhard in the mold of P.T. Barnum... SURE ... he has big city northeast liberal policy ideas? YES ,, but he loves America unlike Obungholio ,,, I think if he is elected he actually implements some meaningful reforms before the whole thing implodes...

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 18:14 | 6356828 logicalman
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If Trump gets in as pres, I want to move to another galaxy - Mars ain't far enough!

 

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 13:34 | 6356072 Pure Evil
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That and a gullotine ready to swoop down once the number of lies reach maximum credibility.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 15:35 | 6356404 J Jason Djfmam
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Just pull the lever.

We know they're gonna lie.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 16:14 | 6356512 Ethelred the Unready
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Can you imagine the sparks if any of the Clintons were strapped in as described.  "Oh say can you see..."

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 16:58 | 6356618 Radical Marijuana
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Hah!

Looney,

As you know, if that was done they would all die.

(Assuming that there are none so psychopathic that they could lie in ways that could trick the lie detector.)

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 18:17 | 6356837 logicalman
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I think there are some so self-interested and they believe their own ramblings - that would get 'em past the detector.

 

Mon, 07/27/2015 - 00:09 | 6357745 remoran
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Awesome!!

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 13:19 | 6356023 mophead
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Thanks to Trump: say hello to your new master, same as the old master.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 14:43 | 6356257 Max Steel
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His remarks on Mccunt is priceless lol.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 21:01 | 6357101 Billy the Poet
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My Uncle was captured at the Battle of the Bulge. He was a medic left behind with the wounded. He was a hero.

In the camp he took care of dozens of men with no supplies. One day an American medical officer was captured and brought to camp. The officer started screaming at my Uncle about the condition of the hospital. My Uncle tried to grab a rifle from a German guard but the guard just pulled away and shook his head. He knew that my Uncle wanted to shoot the medical officer and not any Germans. He was a hero.

Mon, 07/27/2015 - 07:10 | 6358232 Moe Howard
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Other than both being captured, what does one have to do with the other?

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 17:42 | 6356737 Fahque Imuhnutjahb
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He'd do well to stop talking shit about El Chapo.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 13:03 | 6355967 Publicus
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Sun, 07/26/2015 - 13:12 | 6355972 knukles
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LOL

OMG, I can just see it now!  The Donald going off in all directions presenting Sanders with the multitudes of facts that the Libtards conveniently ignore or have simplistic excuses for, shredding his very syllogistic (etymological root shared with "silly") logic and turning him like a frog without basting.  Probably wind up with Sanders starting to cry in public like Ed Muskie in NH ....

https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=ed+muskie+crying+video&ei=UTF-8&hs...

Priceless! 

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 13:45 | 6356109 Billy the Poet
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And then he'll make the Founding Fathers cry.

 

"I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun." -- Donald Trump

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 15:06 | 6356320 Oldwood
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It's a little late in the program to worry about gun control.

I imagine everyone already has more than they will use and even if they are not out tlawed, they will definitely be deemed illegal for what you might imagine they be used for...they already are. Any sense of security we still retain is delusional if things go the way they think/hope.

The wealthy and the leftists will always feel their security is best held by the state as the rest of us are the risk. any republican who claims to be for gun rights will have the same backbone as they do on everything else. These types of promises are for electoral purposes only.

Trump is a potential threat to the core if the public fails to reject him. Gun restrictions are the least of our problems.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 18:07 | 6356811 g speed
Sun, 07/26/2015 - 18:20 | 6356844 realmoney2015
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I agree that our biggest problem isn't the right to bear arms, its the Fed. But guess what? When everything else turns to crap (and we are moving faster and faster to that) having a public that is armed is very important to take back our GOd given rights that the government has ignored for too long.

I also agree that Trump is a major potential threat. Not to the establishment, which he is part of, but to the liberties of everyday people like you and me.

Oh yeah, he is also 'the most militaristic' candidate out there. His words, not mine. We need more war, like we need more bankers!

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 15:34 | 6356401 Klaatuwept
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Yeah I'm sure the founding fathers had fully automatic assault weapons ( which weren't even invented yet ) in mind when they drafted the constitution

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 16:01 | 6356484 Pig Circus
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Yeah I'm sure the founding fathers had fully automatic assault weapons

 

Neither did the criminal's or the government but I repeat myself.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 16:13 | 6356510 Klaatuwept
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Senility will do that to you, by your rationale you need to be getting hold of some cruise missiles and nuclear warheads, after all why stop at fully automatic assualt rifles when the state has bigger toys 

And by the way, my point was that I am sure if those weapons had been around at the time the founding fathers would have perhaps limited the right to bear arms to non automatic weapons

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 16:27 | 6356540 wendigo
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Do you have any idea how many americans own automatic weapons? A few hundred. You need a class 3 license, and then the gun it self is going to set you back 5, maybe 6 figures. You can't just buy a new automatic, it had to have been made prior to 1986. Even if you have the license and the dough, finding a legal automatic weapon is going to be difficult. 

 

You know nothing about guns though, you're just a fool. I'm ashamed to call you my countryman. 

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 16:53 | 6356602 Klaatuwept
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If only a few hundred own automatic weapons please tell me how they are going to be much help in combating government tyranny ?

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 17:33 | 6356722 Billy the Poet
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Up until a few minutes ago you didn't even know what an automatic weapon is and now you want a crash course in fourth generation warfare? Somehow I don't think you're up to speed.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 18:06 | 6356808 Klaatuwept
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Yeah thats it avoid the question asshole, that'll work

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 18:30 | 6356869 Billy the Poet
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One can combat tyranny without fully automatic weapons. Why do you think they are necessary? Even the regular US Army grunt doesn't carry full auto anymore.

Next time you engage a target be sure to use facts and real world analysis rather than the talking points foisted on you by some political action committee.

 

 

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 18:32 | 6356881 logicalman
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Molotovs spring immediately to mind.

Trouble is, so many drinks are now in plastic bottles.

 

 

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 18:54 | 6356943 Klaatuwept
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Fine so you agree arguing against banning automatic weapons on the basis of combating government tyranny is a ridiculous argument ?

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 19:07 | 6356972 Billy the Poet
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The "assault weapons" ban didn't ban automatic weapons. It banned semi-automatic weapons with certain other features like pistol grips.

So what was your point?

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 19:27 | 6357017 NoPension
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He's a feckin idiot, Billy. Save your breath.

Here's one for you, Keptokraut; full auto just wastes ammo.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 23:45 | 6357023 Billy the Poet
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full auto just wastes ammo.

 

Saw my cousin at a party today for the first time in a year. He's back from Afghanistan.  We talked about weaponry and he said the exact same thing you just did.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 19:54 | 6357084 Klaatuwept
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This was your post above ;

And then he'll make the Founding Fathers cry.

"I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun." -- Donald Trump

My point is that there is nothing there that would upset the founding fathers, as you have conceded assault weapons are not necesssary or indeed much help at all for combating tyranny, domestic or otherwise so your argument is a fallacious one.

You see there is a rampant problem with gun crime as a casual glance at the statistics versus other countries will readily testify, and the easy availabliity of thes weapons are the main cause of this problem. There is nothing in the constitution to prevent stronger gun controls so you will have to try another argument.  

 

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 20:11 | 6357129 Billy the Poet
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you have conceded assault weapons are not necesssary

 

No, I said AUTOMATIC weapons aren't necessary. The "assault weapons" ban is against SEMI-AUTOMATIC weapons not AUTOMATIC weapons.They are different things. They are not the same. I don't know how I can be any clearer than that.

You can't discuss a topic reasonably if you don't know the specifics of that subject. Has it ever occurred to you to actually research firearms before making policy declarations?

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 20:18 | 6357151 Klaatuwept
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Ok, my mistake, so you think the right to bear 'assault weapons' is necessary under the constitution for defending against tyranny, is that right ? 

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 20:57 | 6357262 Billy the Poet
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What do you mean by "necessary under the constitution?" I have a constitutional right to free speech but it is not necessary that I do speak in a given situation. Nor is it necessary that I operate a press or follow a religion although those rights are also constitutionally guaranteed.

Remember, Trump wants to ban certain semi-automatic weapons. That is the issue. Is there any reason why you'd like to avoid the issue?

Mon, 07/27/2015 - 03:47 | 6358055 Angry White Dude
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A for effort, but in reading your back and forth with Klaatuwept, it was like you trying to explain math to a dog. He may look at you and tilt his head when he recognizes a word, but beyond that it's just a waste of time.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 16:36 | 6356552 Oldwood
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It is our responsibility to resist oppression, even if we must use sticks and stones. The fact that we have continually bent over with each and every usurpation of our liberties does not mean we are allowed to absolve ourselves of this responsibility at this late date. Our right to self defense, regardless of choice of weapons is our inherent right, far above any that our government would choose to endow us with (at considerable cost to others). Our right to defense is not one of preemption of theoretical threats but of imminent ones, to our personal lives. That does not require nukes. Nukes are a collective solution as are any weaponry capable of killing multiples at a single trigger. Our defense must come at a very personal level....face to face, with the ability to define as closely as possible the true threat. Not one rendered from reading history...or blogs. Our fight for liberty is a fight of conscience, likely one that our opponents will have none, but it is the only fight worth having.

Mon, 07/27/2015 - 08:22 | 6358382 Ace Ventura
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By your rationale the founders would have specifically included language limiting the people to ownership of pitchforks and shovels. Thankfully, since the specific and clear intent of the 2nd Amendment was to acknowledge (not grant) the right of people to fight tyrannical government....the founders included no such specifics regarding the technological features of 'arms'. Further, they were abundantly clear when expressing the level to which the government could 'reasonably regulate' the ownership of weapons amongst the people.

SHALL. NOT. BE. INFRINGED.

Any and all activity regarding the incremental 'regulation' of weapons enacted since has been in complete and total violation of the constitution.

P.S. If cruise missiles, M1 tanks, and aircraft carriers ever become arms carried (to bear) by individual soldiers....then yes, I see no problem with the average joe owning one.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 22:03 | 6357427 ImGumbydmmt
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I could explain the difference between a rifle and musket to you in detail, but it would be lost on you

Let me put it this way, 

In multiple engagements, the American militiamen with RIFLES during the Revolution are credited with sniper shots from covered and concealed positions killing British officers at 350 yards, FAR beyond the 50-75 yard effective range of the British Muskets.

The Civilians of the American Revolution had a technologically superior weapon to the Royal British Army.

Futhermore, The "Shot Heard Around the World,” ie. The Battle of Lexington Concord was brought about because of the British march to seize the American Colonialists’ Cannons and ammunition supplies.

These Cannon were Privately Purchased equipment for the communal defense of the colonies.

Think about that, Effing Cannons privately purchased for the defense of the colonists.

Other postings have tried to explain the difference between semi-automatic and full automatic.

This is also an important distinction.

Summary,

Yes the intent of the Second Amendment and the Entire US Constitution is to keep the  Federal Government from growing too powerful ( such as the restriction on no standing Armies), and therefore allowing populace to be armed on par or above that of the current military technology is the EXACT idea of the Second Amendment..

Next, the topic of automatic weapons is often cited because of the "mass shootings" by "lone wolf gunman"

Noveske was one of the early persons to carefully document ho ALL of the "lone wolf gunmen" in the past 20 year were ALL on prescription psychotropic drugs.

Samual L Jackson is quoted as saying something to the effect of guns being everywhere in the south growing up, folks just didn’t do stupid shit with them.

Furthermore, even including these abhorrent acts of mass violence; homicides of all types in the USA hovers around 11k annually, compared to Auto Accident Fatalities of over 36k per year, and "hospital acquired infection" deaths of 99,000 per year, we are kind of pissing up the wrong rope, especially when the FBI claims total Rifle type homicides (including semi automatic types) hover around 150 per year. The crime contribution contributed by the over 3million AR-15 type rifles in this country is statistically a very small number.

IF EVERY Life mattered so effing much to folks, it would be WAY the FUCK easier for you and politicians to do something about Hospital Acquired Infection Deaths caused by dirty hospital conditions and poor staff training (I am a former Hospital Architect, I know from which I speak) These are licensed medical facilities with licensed professionals and they are killing nearly 100k folks per year, and you want to rant about 150 deaths per year by assault weapons?

What The Fuck?

 

Please do some homework before you speak of these topics.

Or to avoid future embarrassment, you may wish to keep your ignorance to yourself.

I Fucking Miss America.

 

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 18:06 | 6356796 Pickleton
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"Yeah I'm sure the founding fathers had fully automatic assault weapons ( which weren't even invented yet ) in mind when they drafted the constitution"

 

Of course, those people had canons and mortars in their personal inventories, as well as the state of the art guns of the time, so you might just want to STFU.

 

No doubt imbeciles like you are out there every day saying first amendment free speech rights only applies to quill and ink.  Oh wait, you dont do that now do you.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 19:07 | 6356980 MachoMan
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Exactly.  Clearly the founding fathers weren't privy to advances in military technology through all of their other schooling, research, and experience...  *facepalm

The point is simple, the second amendment does not give us the right to bear arms, rather that comes from natural law...  our birthright.  The second amendment only prohibits the government from interfering with our natural right.  When you hear anyone ask why you need a "high capacity magazine" or "fully automatic" weapon (which is one of the requirements for an assault weapon btw), then tell them they're committing a logical fallacy, shifting the burden of proof...  it's irrelevant...  I do not need to show a "need" to bear arms.  

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 20:06 | 6357110 Klaatuwept
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The right to bear arms is not incompatible with tighter gun controls. I am trying to understand the argument for not have stricter controls when there is a massive gun crime problem. The founding fathers argument doesnt hold water and nor does some sort of 'natural right'. If there is another defence against tighter gun controls I would like to hear it.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 20:16 | 6357140 Seek_Truth
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Criminals do not obey the law.

Think about this.

The right to bear arms is not limited, by anything.

Everyone should bear arms, of any kind.

Only you can defend yourself and your loved ones.

When seconds count, cops are minutes away.

"To serve and protect" is propaganda.

Detectives might find out who the perpetrator is,

but it will be minutes too late.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 20:22 | 6357162 Klaatuwept
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The trouble with that is that a quick glance at the statistics reveals you stand an exponentially greater risk of being a victim of gun crime in the US, so clearly lack of gun controls are not actually helping defend anyone, rather it appears to be the main cause of the problem.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 20:38 | 6357205 Ms. Erable
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"...statistics reveals you stand an exponentially greater risk of being a victim of gun crime in the US...".

Bullshit. Learn what per capita means and get back to us. The U.S. is 23rd in the world in gun violence.

Ignorant fucking troll.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 20:48 | 6357237 Klaatuwept
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I was comparing with modern western societies. If you are happy with being up there with Guatemala and Somalia thats your call.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 21:54 | 6357402 Sparkey
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What ta Hell are "Modern Western Societies"? and what good are they really, Could anyone of them produce a man like "The Donald'? I just don't think so, but America can, that is American exceptualism on display and it is something we should all be proud of, it might just, Save our Lives!

Star chanting; Donald, Donald, he's our man if Donald can't do it no one can!

(unfortunately, the truth!)

Mon, 07/27/2015 - 01:41 | 6357924 monad
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In a modern western society, Bill Cosby would have been a public spectacle in March. Hanging from a tree.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 23:00 | 6357570 Ms. Erable
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Oh, you mean third-world shitholes like the U.K., which has a higher per-capita rate of gun violence than the U.S.?

Can't we at least get some decent trolls around here? This one's just fucking lame.

Mon, 07/27/2015 - 07:20 | 6358249 Ghordius
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Ms. Erable, where do you statistics come from? I read in mine a homicide rate of 0.05 for the UK and 3.55 for the US, per 100'000

Mon, 07/27/2015 - 07:13 | 6358238 Moe Howard
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Sweden has had hand grenade and car bomb attacks in Malmo, last one yesterday. Don't remember those happening lately in the USA.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 20:43 | 6357222 Seek_Truth
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First of all, it's not about safety, it's about taxation and regulation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

Second, it's bolstered by propaganda:

http://rense.com/general32/nine.htm

Third, check the facts:

http://thefiringline.com/library/

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 21:29 | 6357339 Pickleton
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I am trying to understand the argument for not have stricter controls when there is a massive gun crime problem.

 

Amazingly enough, the US cities with the HIGHEST gun control also have the WORST gun homicide rates, including DC, Detroit, Oakland and Philly.  Now check those with places like Utah and Tx that have far easier and far higher rates of gun ownership. 

Basically, you'll NEVER see what you just don't want to see and you my low info democrat dingbat, clearly dont want to see it.

http://www.takepart.com/photos/gun-homicides/gun-violence-baltimore-maryland

 

 

Mon, 07/27/2015 - 00:35 | 6357800 monad
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The first thing Adolf Hitler did was, disarm the German people. We know how that worked out. Dumbass.

Call me back after you read Inside The Third Reich. Fool.

Mon, 07/27/2015 - 04:11 | 6358070 Icelandicsaga.....
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Hate  to burst your bub le but most crimes with guns including homicides are done by blacks ..so if you want gun control start there..but wait  cities with large black population also have strctest gun control laws, Chicago and NYC and DC COME TO MIND. So lets impose even harsher laws in black communities where most of  crimes usung guns are committed on a daily basis. The numbers for violent crimes overall is higher among blacks by a huge percentage. Gun crimes by whites who are not in the psychotropic drug are mostly suicide. But here are the numbers, am sure they wont matter to you. Blacks have a problem with violence..those living in urban areas committ three to four times more violent crime than whites. Its a problem of culture, single parenthood, povert, and no male figure in the home given that blacks have a 70 to 80 percent illegitimacy rate. Familes with 4 kids or more usually have 4 different sperm donors. It is a tragedy and the reality. http://www.pewresearch.org/daily-number/blacks-suffer-disproportionate-s...                               http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2014-08-20/the-stark-statistics-on-...                     http://americanfreepress.net/?p=14864

Mon, 07/27/2015 - 07:11 | 6358235 Moe Howard
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They did have cannons however.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 13:07 | 6355981 Bitcoin Meiser
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Yeah why not. The nation seems to be doomed anyway. Why not have a little fun while we wait?

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 14:26 | 6356215 83_vf_1100_c
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Is it Bitcoin Miser or Bitcoin Meister? Or did I sleep thru the English class where they covered meiser. btw, take the time to fix the duplicate posting.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 13:07 | 6355982 Bitcoin Meiser
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Yeah why not. The nation seems to be doomed anyway. Why not have a little fun while we wait?

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 16:51 | 6356548 Inexcye Solm
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Sun, 07/26/2015 - 13:00 | 6355958 realmoney2015
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“Hillary Clinton was the worst secretary of State in the history of the United States," - Donald Trump

So why does he give her foundation money? Why did he support her 2008 campaign. Was it bad judgement and now he has changed his ways and learned his lesson? Or is this all for show to win support? Until he admits he was wrong and made a mistake, I will assume he is still a clinton supporter.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 13:17 | 6356019 ctiger2
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Ummm... cause Trump realizes you have to BUY influence in a fascist faux constitutional republic with rigged democratic elections? Like the bankers Trump funds both sides.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 13:46 | 6356113 Billy the Poet
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And that's not a point in Trump's favor.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 13:48 | 6356124 JLee2027
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And I thought Hillary was Sec of State after 2008. Silly me.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 13:53 | 6356138 Billy the Poet
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If Trump, who donated to Hillary's 2008 presidential campaign, would have gotten his way then she wouldn't have been Secretary of State but...the President of the United States!

Silly you indeed.

 

http://assets.bwbx.io/images/iTVKK6C4YhsM/v1/-1x-1.jpg

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 15:15 | 6356341 Oldwood
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Billy, we live in a corrupt system. To succeed you have to participate in a big way. Politicians are simply on the other end of the equation.

Everyone is seeking some purity in a choice that there has NEVER been. We are where we are because of a long series of bad choices, elections as the least of them. The best we can hope for is the "syndicate" destroying itself or at least weakening itself in order for us to have a chance.

Trump, for whatever his cause, is creating chaos that could potentially give us that chance. They have been creating chaos and destruction for years as a means of weakening and destroying us. This may be THEIR black swan.

Hoping...

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 18:47 | 6356689 Billy the Poet
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Billy, we live in a corrupt system. To succeed you have to participate in a big way.... We are where we are because of a long series of bad choices,

 

A sane and moral man would realize that behaving corruptly for whatever reason is a bad choice. But if you want to be corrupt so that you can succeed in a corrupt world why not wear a dress and vote Clinton?

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 18:57 | 6356957 Oldwood
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If you do not think that we are all living and contributing to this corruption, you are again confused. The one real reason why things don't change is that most, even the least informed amongst us, understands that to shut the corruption down will cost us all...possibly everything. After all, is this not what a reset entails?

The thing that pisses most people off is not the corruption, but the fact that most are not profiting nearly as much as the few. They don't care about corruption, they care about their take.

If principles mattered, we wouldn't be in this position today.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 19:13 | 6356988 MachoMan
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The thing that pisses most people off is not the corruption, but the fact that most are not profiting nearly as much as the few. They don't care about corruption, they care about their take.

This pretty much summarizes any strife, the world over.  When the protests start to demand a civilization where all we want are the fruits of our own labor, then wake me up...  until that day, I'll do my best to keep from getting robbed and I trust my robbers to innovate and multiply.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 19:18 | 6356990 Billy the Poet
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If principles mattered, we wouldn't be in this position today.

 

The beast has consumed you. You argue in favor of corruption and against principle because you see corruption as an easy way to get along while behaving in a principled manner is too difficult.

The sentiment of our founders, "We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately," is lost on you not to mention the stories of Jesus, Beckett and Thomas Moore.

You are ripe for the mark of the beast. You're practically demanding it.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 21:25 | 6357331 Oldwood
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No, I do not argue against principles.I argue that most by far do not stand for principles over profit, so to do so leaves you at a disadvantage. Principles, ie morals, in most cases only reward in heaven...and future generations, which revert back to corruption as they see those who sacrifice for principles as fools. Those who seek easy profits over principles are always the easy mark for those who want power and riches. I just returned from a business trip to Vegas and witnessed the towers of babble filled with fools there to be fleeced. A microcosm of our world.

For those of us who seek principles, we still live and breath in the world of corruption. To participate in this economy implicitly supports it, so we try to preserve what we can. But do not be fooled, this is a losing effort. We all know it. We've always known it.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 13:58 | 6356156 realmoney2015
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Indeed she was. If she failed at that task imagine how big of a flop she would have been if trump had his way and helped her win the presidency? 

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 18:34 | 6356884 logicalman
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He just wants to stop being the one paying and be on the receiving end.

 

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 13:01 | 6355959 Headbanger
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Looks like The Donald wants Bernie for his VP...

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 12:51 | 6355932 l8apex
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If he can actually secure our borders, I don't give a shit what he says.  Even though I happen to agree with all of it.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 13:02 | 6355963 realmoney2015
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So you don't care about your right to bear arms?

"...but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With today’s Internet technology we should be able to tell within 72-hours if a potential gun owner has a record." - Donald Trump

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 13:08 | 6355978 Headbanger
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Many states already ban "assault weapons"

And even many NRA members support a longer waiting period to buy a gun

So The Donald is saying nothing new about gun control laws

You fucking idiot.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 13:09 | 6355990 realmoney2015
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Just because the NRA wants something doesn't mean I do.  "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

He's just another traitor to our country and the constitutional protected rights.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 13:11 | 6355995 Headbanger
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Then vote for Hillary

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 13:13 | 6356002 realmoney2015
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Fortunately, there are other choices at the moment. Unfortunately, Trump is a clinton supporter.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 13:21 | 6356035 dogfish
Sun, 07/26/2015 - 14:00 | 6356155 aint no fortuna...
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Good article and I agree. I saw a side of Bernie at the 2007 Warren, VT 4th of July parade that shocked me, left me scratching my head, caused me to stop supporting him. In retrospect, it shouldn't have surprised me - he's nothing but a pol catering to the polls.

At least Trump's an equal opportunity hater.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 14:42 | 6356256 NeoLuddite
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Sanders isn't a wolf in sheeps clothing - his real MO is that of a wolf in shepherd's clothing.

Fixed it for you.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 15:24 | 6356370 Oldwood
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If you don't have yours by now, you never will. And if you think you will ever be able to legally defend your self from the state, then you definitely are deluded.

We will be crushed by financial repression that will make all means of self defense, be it bullets or gold, illegal. As as none of us will surrender these means, makes all of us outlaws, the exact person they always wanted us to be. A person dependent upon them, submissive and obedient, like every prisoner everywhere. Our outlaw status guarantees that our rights no longer exists.

Sun, 07/26/2015 - 16:10 | 6356502 shovelhead
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Don't forget that works both ways...

A numerically untenable position in the long run.

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