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Reports Of Secret Drachma Plots Leave Tsipras Facing Fresh Crisis
On Friday, we brought you the shocking story of the rebellion that never was in Greece.
According to FT, Former Greek Energy Minister and maverick among mavericks Panayotis Lafazanis convened a "secret" meeting at the Oscar Hotel in Athens on July 14 at which he attempted to convince Syriza hardliners (including, in FT’s words, "supporters of the late Venezuelan president Hugo Chávez [and some] old-fashioned communists") to storm the Greek mint, seize the country’s currency reserves, and, if necessary, arrest central bank governor Yannis Stournaras.
(Lafazanis)
Obviously, the plan was never implemented, but if the story is even partly true it betrays the degree to which Greece teetered on the edge of social upheaval and even civil war in the days that followed PM Alexis Tsipras’ decision to concede to creditors’ demands and abandon not only Syriza’s election mandate but the very referendum outcome he had himself campaigned for just days prior.
Now that Tsipras has succeeded in compelling Greek lawmakers to cede the country’s sovereignty to Brussels in exchange for the right to use the euro, tales of unrealized redenomination plots have come out of the woodwork so to speak, and now, in addition to the scheme described above and rumors that a return to the drachma was nearly financed by a loan from the Kremlin, we get a glimpse at yet another plan hatched behind the scenes, this time courtesy of a recorded conference call between Yanis Varoufakis and "members of international hedge funds."
Here’s the story from Kathimerini:
Former Finance Minister Yanis Varoufakis has claimed that he was authorized by Alexis Tsipras last December to look into a parallel payment system that would operate using wiretapped tax registration numbers (AFMs) and could eventually work as a parallel banking system, Kathimerini has learned.
In a teleconference call with members of international hedge funds that was allegedly coordinated by former British Chancellor of the Exchequer Norman Lamont, Varoufakis claimed to have been given the okay by Tsipras last December – a month before general elections that brought SYRIZA to power – to plan a payment system that could operate in euros but which could be changed into drachmas "overnight" if necessary, Kathimerini understands.
Varoufakis worked with a small team to prepare the plan, which would have required a staff of 1,000 to implement but did not get the final go-ahead from Tsipras to proceed, he said.
The call took place on July 16, more than a week after Varoufakis left his post as finance minister.
The plan would involve hijacking the AFMs of taxpayers and corporations by hacking into General Secretariat of Public Revenues website, Varoufakis told his interlocutors. This would allow the creation of a parallel system that could operate if banks were forced to close and which would allow payments to be made between third parties and the state and could eventually lead to the creation of a parallel banking system, he said.
As the general secretariat is a system that is monitored by Greece’s creditors and is therefore difficult to access, Varoufakis said he assigned a childhood friend of his, an information technology expert who became a professor at Columbia University, to hack into the system. A week after Varouakis took over the ministry, he said the friend telephoned him and said he had “control” of the hardware but not the software "which belongs to the troika."
Apparently, Varoufakis planned to take control of the computers first, then hack into the ministry’s software, steal the code, and design the parallel payments system. Here are excerpts from the call, again from Kathimerini, quoting Varoufakis:
"The prime minister before he became PM, before we won the election in January, had given me the green light to come up with a Plan B. And I assembled a very able team, a small team as it had to be because that had to be kept completely under wraps for obvious reasons. And we had been working since the end of December or beginning of January on creating one.
"What we planned to do was the following. There is the website of the tax office like there is in Britain and everywhere else, where citizens, taxpayers go into the website they use their tax file number and they transfer through web banking monies from the bank account to their tax file number so as to make payments on VAT, income tax and so on and so forth.
“We were planning to create, surreptitiously, reserve accounts attached to every tax file number, without telling anyone, just to have this system in a function under wraps. And, at the touch of a button, to allow us to give PIN numbers to tax file number holders, to taxpayers.
"That would have created a parallel banking system while the banks were shut as a result of the ECBs aggressive action to deny us some breathing space.
"This was very well developed and I think it would have made a very big difference because very soon we could have extended it, using apps on smartphones and it could become a functioning parallel system and of course this would be euro denominated but at the drop of a hat it could be converted to a new drachma.
"But let me tell you - and this is quite a fascinating story - what difficulties I faced. The General Secretary of Public Revenues within my ministry is controlled fully and directly by the troika. It was not under control of my ministry, of me as minister, it was controlled by Brussels.
Ok, so problem number one: The general secretary of information systems on the other hand was controlled by me, as minister. I appointed a good friend of mine, a childhood friend of mine who had become professor of IT at Columbia University in the States and so on. I put him in because I trusted him to develop this.
"At some point, a week or so after we moved into the ministry, he calls me up and says to me: 'You know what? I control the machines, I control the hardware but I do not control the software. The software belongs to the troika controlled General Secretary of Public Revenues. What do I do?'
"So we decided to hack into my ministry’s own software program in order to be able break it up to just copy just to copy the code of the tax systems website onto a large computer in his office so that he can work out how to design and implement this parallel payment system.
"And we were ready to get the green light from the PM when the banks closed in order to move into the General Secretariat of Public Revenues, which is not controlled by us but is controlled by Brussels, and to plug this laptop in and to energize the system.
In short, Varoufakis claims Tsipras had pre-approved the creation of secret accounts for every tax filer (which, knowing Greece, might have left Varoufakis short on accounts for quite a few citizens). Greeks would be made aware of the accounts' existence in the event the banking system ceased to function altogether, and Athens would effectively facilitate payments through the new system in defiance of the EMU. Clearly, this would not have been well received by Brussels - especially the bit about hacking their software - but ultimately, because the new system would be entirely controlled by Varoufakis' finance ministry, it could be converted to the drachma immediately.
Kathimerini goes on the quote Varoufakis as saying that German FinMin Wolfgang Schaeuble intended to use Grexit as leverage to force France into supporting a system that ceded fiscal decision making to Brussels (which would of course mean giving Berlin more say over EMU countries' finances):
"Schaeuble has a plan. The way he described it to me is very simple. He believes that the eurozone is not sustainable as it is. He believes there has to be some fiscal transfers, some degree of political union. He believes that for that political union to work without federation, without the legitimacy that a properly elected federal parliament can render, can bestow upon an executive, it will have to be done in a very disciplinary way. And he said explicitly to me that a Grexit is going to equip him with sufficient bargaining, sufficient terrorising power in order to impose upon the French that which Paris has been resisting. And what is that? A degree of transfer of budget making powers from Paris to Brussels."
The new revelations raise serious concerns for Alexis Tsipras. The deep divisions within Syriza are by now well publicized, but reports of covert plans to establish parallel banking systems using tax filers' IDs and the idea that elements within the ruling party plotted to seize billions in currency reserves and take control of the central bank have left some lawmakers demanding answers. Here's Reuters:
The center-right New Democracy party and the centrist To Potami and the Socialist Pasok parties, which all backed Tsipras in parliamentary votes on the bailout this month, demanded a response to the reports.
"The revelations that are coming out raise a major political, economic and moral issue for the government which needs in-depth examination," it said in a statement.
"Is it true that a designated team in the finance ministry had undertaken work on a backup plan? Is it true they had planned to raid the national Mint and that they prepared for a parallel currency by hacking the tax registration numbers of the taxpayers?"
Tsipras thus finds himself in an extraordinarily difficult spot. Passing two sets of prior bailout actions through parliament cost him dearly on the political front as more than 30 Syriza MPs defected on both votes. This means he'll be forced to rely on the support of opposition lawmakers to govern going forward or at least until he can call for elections and get a "clean start" after the third troika program is formally in place.
If Syriza's political opponents come to believe that their efforts to back Tsipras on the way to keeping Greece in the euro are being subverted in secret by members of Tsipras' own party, their support could dry up quickly leaving the PM with no support from either side of the aisle.
Given all of this, it's easy to see why many analysts and commentators still belive that Grexit - and everything that comes with it both for Greece and for the EMU - is still the most likely outcome.
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Tylers, What happened to the article entitled: Initial Jobless Claims Drop To Lowest Since January 2008 As 366K People Fall Off Extended Claims?
The link to the article was http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-24/initial-jobless-claims-drop-low... I have never seen any ZeroHedge article disappear entirely before.
A synopsis still exists here, but its link doesn't work either: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:hwRjN_yA-OMJ:www.ze...
Why? Can you restore it? Will you restore it? Thanks.
Two other links from 1/24/13 (but no other days I've checked) are missing also:
Greek revolution in 3.. 2.. 1..
Heads will roll.
Any sensible person would make contingency plans.
tell that to 98% of Amerikans
… and with THAT the Greek Dra(ch)ma continues ;-)
Looney
Everything Proceeding According To Plan, The House Of SAUD Will "Buy" Greece...
The Mausks Will Rise...
EU Allows Callifrate Into Greece.
Tsirprakis Will Be Very Rich Man In Downtown London...
This hacking story, "I control the hardware but not the software" is utter nonsense, perhaps believable by a few computer illiterates. Plus it's Varoufakis (i.e. the Americans) that want fiscal/economic integration in Europe, not the Germans.
This sounds like a post factum story invented in the context of a bigger "game theoretical" plot.
This hacking story, "I control the hardware but not the software" is utter nonsense, perhaps believable by a few computer illiterates.
Indeed Jeff. Your observations both demonstrable and obvious!...
This story has no "legs" and with outlandish and tall tales likes this one that keep coming out of this mess the "heroes" it's looking like there are no doubts anymore that Syriza was a manufactured cover from Brussels. The Greeks are getting fucked over just like they did in the 1968 coup from outside only this one is far, far worse.
Perhaps we should congratulate Georgy "boy" Soros for another "Mission Accomplished" and job well done?!!!
All that and all TSpras had to say was, "We're leaving the EU and the euro." What a waste of time. Someone give a bullet to the fiat debt/credit system already.
LOL - they need to grow some testacleez and JUST DO IT!
Interesting in that Chavez openly talked out against about Jewish bankers, yet was a died in the wool commy. There seems to be plenty of anti zionist "commies" around, which wasn't the plan I am sure.
Those missing links can be accessed here:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-24/initial-jobless-claims-drop-lowest-january-2008-366k-people-fall-extended-claims
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-24/its-official-worst-recovery-ever
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-24/head-greek-statistics-bureau-accused-falsifying-economic-data-puts-blame-where-it-tr
Servers located in Greece, perhaps in Govt facilities, so you have access to the OS but software installed on them is all locked up, all you can do is start and stop it. See what happens when you get rid of Telegraphic Transfer terminals.
You are right.
This hacking story, "I control the hardware but not the software" is utter nonsense, perhaps believable by a few computer illiterates.
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You sound like an establishment hack yourself. What about that does not make sense to you? If you knew the first thing about computers, you wouldnt have made that ignorant remark. Access to the hardware platform in no way shape or form guarantees penetrability to the software platform.
Ok, give me one example of a computing platform whose software cannot be tampered with if you have full unrestricted access to the hardware. It's not as if nobody tried. For DRM purposes only it would be a quite useful feat. Even Hardware Security Modules or TPM-equipped platforms are routinely patched. Or perhaps I'm wrong, and iPhones/Playstations cannot be jailbroken?
But it didn't happen. So this means nothing, save for political wrangeling in Greece, which at this point is meaningless -- absent a KKE or Golden Dawn government.
Greece fucked themselves hard until 2018. Nothing will change, as the violent Leftists are placated by a Leftist government.
It didn't exist for it to happen. This is all bullshit aimed at political damage control and covering up their inpet ass that they never had a plan B. Never considered one, never had one.
The rest is history.
+1 b2b, and btw Haus, KKE has made it clear that they are not interested in running the show (they are happy booing from the cheap seats).
Holy shit. So, when does the movie come out!?!? And, who plays YV?!
Varoufakis always reminds me of Voldemort.
Maybe looks aren't that deceiving after all - at least, not always.
Can't quite figure out what his game really was, but he bailed before the final whistle.
PM-in-waiting.
He & T formed 2-1 punch. They had plan(s).
Besides, you believe they did not have help from behind the curtain?
The Bit coin is part of a contingency analysis to use electronic transaactions as one response to the failing dollar.....
Likely not the best response.
Why tell that to 98% of Americans? He was speaking of sensible persons.
Sounds like double secret drachma probation.
I think that before Grexit occurs, NATO tanks will be on the steps of the famous Parliament building. The NWO will not backslide for such an insignificant number of lazy humans.
UNLESS, this is the new crisis that David Rockefeller is referring to in his famous statement that only one more crisis is needed to seal the deal.
It jumps off the page that their treasury official is controlled by the EU Troika and not the Greek govt. Hey FSA! Are you listening?
Next up, Golden Dawn. It will be difficult (but not impossible) for the Troika to "negotiate" with them. Long scopolamine manufacturers and cute little boys.
Nice work Jim. Maybe the title changed, some backend of the website has an error, or you know the other possibility.
Game Theory is way crazier than I thought.
/sarc
It is.
Interesting that one of the greatest minds regarding game theory had a life-ending taxi ride just before all this happened.
Just because you are paranoid.........
I suspect it is "the other possibility." I suspect it is more evidence of what looks like an effort to scrub any explanation of zero squads from the Internet.
I can no longer find my ZH comments explaining zero squads from around that time, and those posts from 1/24/13 were the only posts on which I commented that are missing from that period, so they must be the ones that contained my comments explaining zero squads. The link I used to explain the source of the concept of zero squads is also missing. It was a page in the online version of the book Out of The Ashes by Johnstone; whereas, the online version of the book no longer contains the pages I had linked to that explain what a zero squad actually is.
Well ... since someone is trying to send zero squads down the memory hole ... A zero squad is a cell of three members known only to each other, and each cell has a target to eliminate in a hostile foreign government should that government decide to attack. In the book, the US (and the world) had collapsed and a new and relatively free country had formed in the northwest and the equally new, and very hostile, government along the east coast, which claimed to be the US government, had just voted to attack the free country. Then, zero squads from the free country in the northwest killed the President an all legislators who had voted for the attack.
Given that there have been sniper kills at over 2,000 yards in Iraq and Afghanistan, one can see why the NWO elites have probably become apoplectic about zero squads.
Keep doing what you are doing. I will bookmark your blog. And yes,k the other possibility is the likely answer as some members here would agree.
The Best number of people in a Cell is ONE...
Future Jim, there are a couple of web sites that enable you to preserve whole pages (inlcluding the comments section), but you must do it mannually. archive.org is the biggest, however it respects the robots.txt file (ie won't archive if the website indicates it shouldn't), however, archive.IS does not, and seems to take a much better snapshot, as both a text file, and an image file. As a further precaution, I then use Evernote to capture the archived page itself.
Here is a snapshot of this page itself: https://archive.is/OgIWl on archive.IS.
The other nice thing that archive.IS allows you to do is download a .zip of the captured page itself for you to preserve offline on your own storage.
Remember, you must manually go to both archive.org & archive.IS and paste the URL of each page you wish to preserve every time, they won't necessarily crawl ZH. You can then link the captured URL back in future posts. There are ways to prevent comments disappearing down the memory hole.
The Greek government should better use the time to properly prepare a grexit. The EU has become a farce in every aspect.
Future Jim, here are your pages, safely archived, with multiple snapshots over time - if you want to look for subtle modifications & deletions.
https://web.archive.org/web/20130305110155/http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-24/its-official-worst-recovery-ever?
https://web.archive.org/web/20130318195618/http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-24/head-greek-statistics-bureau-accused-falsifying-economic-data-puts-blame-where-it-tr
See my other comment above for more info.
The greeks sold their souls,,, so it is what it is.
Just as in the ufsa, and elsewhere, nothing will provoke the masses to change things. The control is too complete.
Not over. Will be the Black Swan when we least expect it
Greece has become a soap opera and I'm starting to wonder if they'll have any kind of a functioning government in six months. It would be interesting to watch Germany etal try to negotiate with a mob.....
I thought the model was Cyprus, but its looking like the PTB are applying
the Libyan template to a European country.Financial carpet bombing this time.
Tsapiris better watch his asshole.Sodomized with a knife is no way to go.
He is a turncoat and traitor to his own people, much like most politicians these days.
None of the EU countries have a functioning government ( maybe france aside ) and judging by Germany's indirect actions France Inc is the intention. Futile i think as Le Pen will be a shoe-in (my own preference ) as the french will not give up their independence to the fascists. Yes the EU is 100 times more extreme than Marine. PS. I am not French.
Desperate times call for desperate measures. But, this one just makes sense. You always need a Plan B ....or D in this instance.
Looks like time is up.... from prophet Glynda Linkous a few days ago...
Oh America, America, the nation once so bright for My Name, you have sealed your fate with your wicked ways, and the days left for you are numbered.
Then horrors shall fill your streets. The dead will outnumber the living, and the sounds of war will fill the ears of your people. As you have trampled over others, so shall your enemies now trample over you.
Your people shall rummage for food, where once it was abundant. They will thirst for pure water, because they have rejected Me, the living water. They shall cry for mercy but find none, as they have shown none to My people.
Prepare to meet your fate, America.You have been weighed, and found wanting. Your reign of power has come to its end.
More warnings at http://revelation12.ca
I vote we have a hash-hish circle jerk on Patmos in honor of the late John the Divine. I'm really planning my life on and around some spaced out prophet, uh huh. Too bad C-4 didn't exist 2,000 years ago, Jesus could have made a truck bomb and sent the Temple Banksters into orbit. Problem nipped in the bud and solved. We are still reaping that crap today.
We need to follow His example, no?
I have no problem following the ideals of Jesus, I just reject that he was or is a deity. JD was a wild man on hallucinogens when he penned Revelations. That stuff is wilder than the Old Testament, Jehovah drowned everything and repopulated through incest, one bad mofo. He simply killed innocent people, still is, if anyone actually believes IT exists. I'm still at a loss if he killed cetaceans, too. ?
I don't think the other religions of Abraham, Judaism, Muslims, believe Jesus is a deity because they reject polytheism, then just be a pagan, the Sun and Moon make a lot of sense, energy, tidal cycles, etc. if God exists it has to be the universe, because the concept of NOTHING, does not exist and the idea that God has eyes, lungs, alimentary canal, etc. is fucking ludicrous.
Believe what anyone wants, I wish I could talk myself into it.
Given where all this shit was written, I doubt cetaceans were even a concept anyone had imagined.
God doesn't exist - men who wanted control over others invented him.
Russian state-owned gas giant Gazprom faces a record drop in gas production amid a decline in domestic and export demand and growing competition from other Russian gas producers. Gazprom, which generates some 10 percent of Russia's economic output, is battling a slump in demand both from the key export markets of Ukraine and Europe and from consumers in Russia, which is mired in recession. Large planned exports to China will not come online until at least 2017. The company's output in June fell by 19 percent compared to the same month in 2014, to a record monthly low of 24.7 billion cubic meters (bcm), according to a report by analysts from Sberbank CIB, a Russian investment bank. In the first half of the year Gazprom's gas production dropped by 12.9 percent year-on-year, said the report, which was based on data from Gazprom and Russian monitoring agency CDU TEK. Exports by Gazprom, which has a monopoly on selling Russian pipeline gas abroad, declined by 8 percent in the first half of the year compared to the same period in 2014, according to Sberbank. This is partly due to European buyers delaying purchases of gas, said Yekaterina Rodina, an oil and gas analyst at Investment bank VTB capital. Gas prices move in parallel with oil prices, but with a lag of around nine months, meaning they will likely fall sharply later this year. Europe is also seeking to diversify away from Russian gas to other suppliers and renewable sources of energy, and Ukraine is fast reducing its dependence imports of Russian gas amid political tensions between the two countries. The share of direct Russian gas exports in Ukraine's consumption, which was 74 percent in 2014, declined to 37 percent in the first half of this year as Kiev switched to European suppliers, Sberbank's report said. Gazprom on July 1 suspended the delivery of gas to Ukraine after failing to agree on a price with Ukrainian state gas company Naftogaz in a dispute that has dragged on for 18 months. Lower exports will reduce Gazprom's revenues, which Sberbank said would come in this year at $105.8 billion, down 27 percent from $145.9 billion in 2014. But a weak ruble will offset the effect on profits, the bank said. Foreign sales account for two-thirds of Gazprom's revenue, said Valery Nesterov, oil and gas analyst at Sberbank CIB. The company sells around a half of its gas inside Russia, but domestic pricing is kept low by regulation. With domestic consumption of gas also falling as an economic recession curbs industrial activity, Sberbank said Gazprom's total production of gas in 2015 would not exceed 410-420 bcm — the lowest output in the company's 22-year history. In 2014 the company produced 443.9 bcm.
Turkmenistan says Russia's Gazprom has not paid for any gas this yearTurkmenistan, irked by falling natural gas exports to Russia, hit out at Moscow's gas export monopoly Gazprom on Wednesday, saying the energy giant had not paid for gas purchased from the Central Asian country so far this year.
"Since the beginning of 2015, OAO Gazprom has not paid for its debts to state concern Turkmengas for the shipped volumes of Turkmen natural gas," Turkmenistan's Oil and Gas Ministry said in a statement on its official website (www.oilgas.gov.tm).
It did not say how much Gazprom owed Turkmenistan, nor did it say how much Turkmen gas had been shipped to Russia to date.
"Russian company Gazprom has become insolvent on its natural gas purchase-and-sale contracts due to the continued global economic crisis and economic sanctions imposed by Western nations on Russia," the ministry's statement said.
Russia military falling apart
Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu has ordered an investigation into the shocking loss of seven military aircraft in crashes during routine training exercises since the beginning of June, news agency RIA Novosti reported Friday.
The crashes appear to show that an increase in Russian military activity connected to the crisis in Ukraine is straining the air force to breaking point.
“The accident rate for military aviation continues to be one of the most acute problems [facing the military],” Shoigu said in a meeting at the Defense Ministry on Friday, RIA Novosti reported.
“We need to thoroughly understand the causes of these accidents and to identify specific measures to improve the situation,” he added.
Over the past 18 months, Russian military aircraft have been flying at a much higher rate than in previous years, as the Kremlin seeks to demonstrate its military power by sending bombers and fighter aircraft to probe NATO defenses in Europe and North America.
NATO reported intercepting 400 Russian military aircraft near alliance airspace last year — a 50 percent increase from 2013. The heightened operational tempo is catching up with Russia's largely Soviet-built and aging fleet of bombers and fighters.
According to news agency TASS, Russia from 2010 to 2014 lost on average one aircraft every two months. But the past seven weeks have seen seven crashes across a spectrum of designs and classes, pointing to problems larger than flaws in a single aircraft design.
Since early June the air force has lost two Tu-95 “Bear” strategic bombers, two MiG-29 fighters, an older Su-24 strike jet, a newer Su-34 fighter-bomber, and most recently an Antonov An-12 military transport.
Engine problems appear to be a common theme. One of the Bear bombers careened off a runway when an engine burst into flames on takeoff, and according to one unidentified source quoted by RIA Novosti after the second Tu-95 crash in mid-July, all four engines on that aircraft died mid-flight.
The problems come despite rapid growth in Russian defense expenditure in recent years and a 20 trillion ruble ($350 billion) rearmament program begun in 2010.
China turns away from Russia
China's direct investments in Russia shrank by 25 percent in the first half of this year, even as its overall foreign investment increased, according to Chinese Ministry of Commerce figures cited by Russian media.
China invested $56 billion in the non-finance sectors of 147 countries and territories around the world in the first six months of this year, marking a 29.9 percent increase from the same period in 2014, Ministry of Commerce spokesman Shen Danyang said Tuesday in Beijing, Russia's Prime business news agency reported.
The greatest increase was reported in countries of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations, or ASEAN, where Chinese investment grew by 92.6 percent, Danyang was quoted as saying.
Investment in Hong Kong increased by 71.8 percent, and in the U.S. by 30 percent, he said, without specifying absolute figures.
But Chinese investment in Russia saw a 25 percent decline, Danyang said. Investment in Australia also dropped by 39.1 percent, Prime quoted him as saying.
P.S. Where are those putin regime pathetic puppies - stoogie and maxi? They should be here and make a bark when I call them! :D
In other news:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/reviews/opinion/item/21015-why-crime-rates-are-soaring
http://time.com/3965478/children-poverty-usa-recession/
http://www.wnd.com/2015/07/americans-more-dependent-than-ever-on-independence-day/
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/these-lurking-debts-may-turn-us-cities-states-into-greece-2015-06-30
https://go.berniesanders.com/page/event/detail/july29organizingmeetingat7pmetpt/wrjr
http://www.theguardian.com/money/us-money-blog/2015/jul/05/student-debt-retirement-funds
http://fortune.com/2015/02/09/automotive-credit/
http://thefederalist.com/2014/07/08/food-prices-are-soaring-and-washington-doesnt-care/
http://nypost.com/2015/01/29/a-grim-warning-cry-on-soaring-us-debt/
US sucks and is run by zionists who must be crushed at all costs before they can perform the genocide of all whites from America.
White America's only hope is for christian Russia.
By all means act with your feet and move to Russia.
Do it for America
Have definitely considered it and will continue to do so. No GMO's, no intentions of invading other countries, no debt to speak of. Won't see any statues of Satan being built there. Has it's plusses.
Love it or leave it, that is original. Why don't you move to Haifa
God says:
Thou shall not provoke in the fight club.
TY for news but your bold headlines are absurdly hysterical compared to the stories themselves
A reply bought and paid for by the highest bidder, NATO.
Jewsoutlet you forgot this one.
http://www.rt.com/news/310788-tank-biathlon-contest-2015/
The Sukhoi Su-35 is set to follow in the wake of the Soviet Union's legendary Su-27 and Su-30 fighter jets in becoming a major military export.
The Indian Air Force revealed the enhanced capabilities of the Su-30 in a 2004 training exercise between the US and India; Indian pilots in the Su-30 were able to outmaneuver the US F-15s and win more than 90 percent of the mock air engagements conducted during the exercise.
http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150726/1025064028.html
And only this is all of Russia's problems?
This drop in the bucket when compared to the problems in the US economy and Europe. Particularly in the energy sector in the US, the US financial sector and the US Army.
Compared with the problems of the United States, Russia now has a period of prosperity! LOL
P.S. Where are those WH regime pathetic puppies - stoogie and maxi? They should be here and make a bark when I call them! :D
Gazprom purchases natural gas from Turkmenistan for its own use or resale. But the volume has fallen this year as Turkmenistan ramps up natural-gas deliveries to China.Gazprom has filed a lawsuit against Turkmenistan's Turkmengaz at an international arbitration court in Stockholm.Officials from the Russian gas giant said on July 24 that the lawsuit was filed over the price in a supply contract, but gave no details.
Russia's plans to drop Ukraine as a route for pumping natural gas to Europe will still leave state-run Gazprom facing about $1 billion in annual transit fees to Slovakia and Bulgaria for years to come, analysts and industry sources say.
Russia wants to circumnavigate Ukraine to pipe its gas to Europe because of pricing disagreements, which at times have led to disruptions in supplies to the European Union, but doing so will come at a cost which some analysts say is too high.
Billions of euros will be needed to build and expand alternative routes, and the route of the existing pipeline means transit fees to Slovakia and Bulgaria will have to be paid by Gazprom even if Russia manages to bypass Ukraine by 2020.
Under the contracts with the two countries, which ship gas on to western and southern Europe respectively, Gazprom will have to pay Slovakia until 2028 and Bulgaria until 2030 regardless of whether they actually ship any gas through them.
Gazprom (OGZPY), the world's biggest gas producer, saw its net profit fall 70% to 189 billion rubles ($3.3 billion) in 2014. The weak ruble was a big reason.
The profit does not include Gazprom's subsidiaries, such as its oil-producing arm Gazprom Neft (GZPFY), which reported its own 2014 profit falling 32% earlier this month.
The state-run energy giant has been hit by Russia's conflict with Ukraine. Its gas supplies to Ukraine have been at the center of the conflict. Moscow has repeatedly threatened to cut off Ukraine's supply.
In other news, price of oil world wide went down and Gazprom is still making a profit.
Yes, profits aren't down 100%, only 86%. No worries.
I am sure that US shale companies are just fine going more and more in debt. How is Canada's oil sand doing? Norway posted $6.8B in profits on $108 B in oil revenues <golf clap>.
Really yeah thats why us shale cmpnaies arw fiki g for bankruptcy.
Give that list of bankrupt companies - or you are just a pathetic putin puppie :D
How ironic! It is yourself that gives real meaning the epithet "pathetic puppies". And you haven't a clue.
Topic missed!
It is horrible that EU wants to sell Greek state assets, stop it now. That is their receipe for the world.
What's with all these media "leaks" all of a sudden, bull about Tsipras asking Putin for $10 Billion now this? Is Greece still a target even after surrendering to all demands? It seems that as much as Greek referendum was an unexpected Yes for Tsipras, so was his surrender unexpected to Troika. Is it possible that the goal for Tsipras all along was for Greece to stay in Euro zone, while the goal of Troika was for Greece to get expelled?
Now that Greece appears to have been handed over to the foreign bankers by Yanis and Tsipras they need to regain their illusion of being dangerous rebels. Hence these types of stories being "leaked" to the controlled media.
Untuck those shirts, unbutton those top buttons ride your motorbike with your leather coat (very nice designer leather) and voila - rebels again.
Yanis and Tsipras need the titles as rebels and for these stories to be printed to give them time and lessen (for now) the protests as they sell off Greece for pennies on the dollar to the bankers and elite. If they can get the people to believe they are rebels again then the people will also believe they are doing the best possible efforts with the best intentions. And by convincing the people that they had this super secret plan before the people may stay sitting in the belief that they must have some super secret plan, while they watch their country being dismantled and ownership of all public assets transfered to private interests.
X2
Malakas sold out their own people. Malakal politicians whose entire philosophical bent means absolutey sweet f-all when faces with a well greased gifted fiat stuffed envelop.
Bottom line - we cant help the Greeks...sorry, but theyre royally fcked. But we can use their situation as a wonderful refresher of why the fck u shoukd stack and get the fck out of dodge
More Greek government subterfuge and unethical shit that will never be prosecuted.
After WW2 the so called aggressor nations had genocide performed against their peoples. It was not well publicized.
Zio plan is for USA to lose WW3 so that all whites can be eliminated from USA. Minorities will be left as they will be seen as “no threat”.
Then zios will have complete control of USA.
You can see it now with the war on “whites”
At the same time wage war against the last Christian power, Russia, and bring it to heal. Establishing once again zio's to murder millions there and eliminate religion as was done after the Russian Revolution - same will be for America. Close the churches, remove prayer from schools, on happy holiday cards....
That crank bait will only hook Christians.
it's bad for you as they don't really accept converts- time for your shower
Oh look omega-nazi retard is a retard. What a fucking surprise there...
Zionists are the ultimate 'nazis'
To call someone who criticizes Zionism shows you are clueless.
I disagree with most of what he said, but better to put together a reasoned argument than call someone a retard.
This story is better than a fucking movie
This is the greatest soap opera of all time.
The book is always better than the movie.
Our money or your life.
Tsipras and Varoufakis are just old fashion communists masquerading as fools, and doing a good job of it too.
Varoufakis to take over the computers and hack into them! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
These TWO MORONS couldn't even run a lemonade stand, without constantly requiring to go to the bank for a loan.
They are just the same old fashion communists that have been around for the last 100 years, stupid, corrupt, incompetent, arrogant and snobs.
Bah! Humans like Tsipras and Varoufakis are the very reason why humanity will always be at risk of being hurled back into the Stone Age.
Tsipras and Varoufakis are just old fashion POLITICIANS.
Other than that, I would agree.
All that shit, all that honking and blaring not to do anything in the end... meanwhile, war-torn Donbass has created its parallel banking system, has gone back to the ruble and is quietly paying salaries and pensions, and all without making a nuisance of itself in the medias.
Of the difference between wankers and men.
Bankrupting the Russian sugar daddy in the process. Good job!
WHat RUssian sugar daddy is being bankrupted?
Fair enough comment Lea but Putin's got their backs. Greece is being savaged on all fronts.
Summer hole! In Greece they will diligently pour the out pressed reforms in legislative texts, so that can be negotiated the third [aid package] creditors foray after the expiry of the bridge loan.
Placing the blame doesn't help the creditors get their money back.
Debt reductions early on would have provided creditors with the lowest losses.
Tip - Don't lend money to people who can't pay it back.
It's called prudent lending.
Wouldn't that be an interesting turn if the Greeks would take the new bailout money and use it to establish a new currnecy before defaulting on their debt? Seems kind of doubtful considering Greece wouldn't just be a bankrupt nation financially, but ethically too. Yeah, say what you want about the ethics of the ECB, Greece always had a choice to walk away from the bailout. There wasn't a gun to their heads. They chose to be bailed out. If they were to use bailout money to fund a new separate currency, they would probably lose the right to trade with 1/2 the world and the other half would never trust them for anything. They wouldn't be able to borrow a dime till the 22nd century.
There are worse things.
When France went for their socialists they were immediately punished by the markets.
Now it is Le Pen's Far Right that is leading.
France is ahead of the game here, they left the centre long ago, they swung hard left first and then hard right.
The Left are often dreamy intellectuals, whereas the Right know how to play hardball.
It took Hitler to default on Germany's impossible debts back in 1933.
If Syriza fail, Golden Dawn could be next.
The Greek's had their referendum and Syriza aren't going to deliver.
What's left on the table?
There will be NO GREXIT ever.
And if you don't like it, then go fuck yourself and die.
Regardless, I am the smartest.
And if you don't like it, then go fuck yourself and die.
Tsipras is really disgusting. What a pussy !! He should have pulled the trigger on both plans.
What US Christians fail to realize is that Russia is the last great Christian power. Greece is also a Christian nation.
USA, EU, are no longer Christian nations as they are run by Zionists.
These zios want to destroy Russia. So what will happen to Christians in the USA??? You too will be destroyed.. Look at America now… Whites are bad, immoral.
So when US Christians suck up to Israel… they beg for their own demise, tricked to support Israel and turn their back on their true brothers.
There are many, many, Europeans that are professed atheists, especially French and Russians. Unlike FSA citizens they are proud of it, openly discuss it. I've never seen Europeans force their prejudices on others as Christians do in the States.
USA, EU are run by zionists... all the media, politics... central banks, major banks, etc etc... the agenda is clear. If you follow US news you can see war on Christians... war on white people...same tactic used in Russian Revolution - eliminate christians, close churches....
Lenin, (not his real name) Trotsky, Stalin (not his real name), Poroshenko (not his real name) Yats, all the oligarchs, most of the power in the US are zios
The reason you and many others are atheists is due to a long term, never ending barrage from the media for that purpose........... even on CNN they run ads featuring Ron Regan Jr as a proud atheist. Movies, music industry, removal from state houses, supreme court... after years of war on Christianity no wonder you are an atheist. It is what your social upbringing taught you.
O_M
You come across as a closet homo. Not that i'd hold that against you. When you reach 18 you can make your own decisions.
I'm an agnostic, myself.
Atheists make the same mistake as theists, but in the opposite epistemological direction.
I've actually read, over time, the entire Bible. Have you?
I don't know what a Supreme Omnipotent Omnipresent Be-ing could be {if it could be} but I **know** it ain't the tribal desert father sky g0d of the ancient Israelite Canaanites, nor the strange jewish zombie palate cleanser of the NT.
All that shit's derivative of higher, older sources anyway
https://xenophilius.wordpress.com/2008/03/11/42-principles-of-maat-2000-...
Deep philosophical questions on "religion-which only means pathway to truth) deserve more than a couple of paragraphs. I have been watching the blind lead the blind over here for sometime. It is time someone shed some "light" on the subject. I thought I was a Christian for the longest time, still am by way of understanding. I finally realized I was a Hindu when it was explained to me, all it Hindu means is the search for truth. Who can be agains that? As the ancient Rishis say, anyone can be a Hindu, even an atheist for he also has embarked upon his own search for truth.
https://dublinsmick.wordpress.com/2013/10/09/religion-means-pathway-to-t...
Who wrote the bible anyway?
https://dublinsmick.wordpress.com/2014/02/17/who-wrote-the-bible/
https://dublinsmickdotcom.wordpress.com/2013/06/18/king-james-bible-phon...
King James Bible, Phony & Engineered By British Elite, John Dee And Francis Bacon+1 I admire the Essene Gospel of Peace which you link to {I wonder what Seek_Truth would think - a person who seems to believe that the books left outside the canon should be ignored}
http://www.thenazareneway.com/essene_gospel_of_peace_book1.htm
Hinduism also contains much more beauty and less violence than the Abrahamic religions.
But where we are is the most harmful beliefs in the US are the duped "Christian Zionists" who will, one hopes, begin to wake up to how they were used and deceived:
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The Greatest Hoax!
By Charlie Samples
"Your churches will be used to teach the Jews' religion and in less than two hundred years the whole nation will be working for divine world government... All religions will be permeated with Judaism without even being noticed by the masses, and they will all be under the invisible all-seeing eye of the Grand Architect of Freemasonry."
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/hoax/scofield.htm
Who Was Cyrus Scofield?
And who was Cyrus Scofield, author of the Scofield Bible? As a young con-artist in Kansas after the Civil War, he met up with John J. Ingalls, an aging Jewish lawyer... and was taken under the wing of Samuel Untermeier, who later became chairman of the American Jewish Committee, president of the American League of Jewish Patriots, and chairman of the Non-sectarian Anti-Nazi League.
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/hoax/scofield.htm
Where Does Samuel Untermeyer Fit Into the Scheme?
Cyrus Scofield was taken under the wing of Untermeyer, and got financial backing for the Scofield Reference Bible from wealthy Jews. Untermeyer blackmailed President Wilson and chose the next Supreme Court Justice. —Louis Brandeis.
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/hoax/unt.htm
Delicate Genius
Powerful!
Few have read even the new testament.
I made a point to read both testaments when I was about 15.
Old is truly scary!
New is a bit better, but neither really struck me as making any real sense if you stop and think.
When the old testament was written, the guys with the 'pens' knew sod all about anything, just making shit up as they went along.
New testament was written long after the events portrayed actually happened by various people with vested interests.
Hardly seems like the best manual for running anything.
This is what revolution in the 21st Century looks like.
Not a shot fired. If what happened in Greece was attempted here, martial law would be imposed and millions would be arrested. It is amazing that force was not used to punish the citizenry to pay up to TPTB.
That may have been the next step.
TPTB probably breathed a sigh of relief when they didn't have to play that card - might have given the game away once and for all.
Tsipras lacked the Cojones and a genuine plan "B", which the banksters knew from the beginning, that’s why they continually call Greece’s bluff. The banksters have a play book more advanced and in-depth than the Steelers and Cowboys combined. The banksters have seen it all and seen off all challengers over the last 250 years and that included Hitler. The banksters play for keeps and neither do they believe in an afterlife, so that is the mindset you must also have, but their Achilles heel is their lust for mortally. There is only one way to get rid of them and history is proof of that. Negotiations and reason doesn't work with the banksters. They have to be covertly rounded up and assassinated. It's as simple as that IMO.
Tsipras as a Greek should have let them know, they game they are playing is an existential one. He should have let it be known, that all the string pullers in the background would die and at best it would be a Pyrrhic victory and their Pyrrhic victory would leave them mortally wounded to have gone after another European state. The banksters have become too powerful for their own good and the cowardice on modern western politicians has exacerbated their fucking HUBRIS! It will take a genuine patriot and the external security forces of several nations to embark on a policy of assassination to defeat them, which is easy enough if they just had the Cojones. Instead they choose serfdom for their fellow man.
The "solutions" that you recommend would surely send us even faster To Hell In A Handbasket!
There are no currently intelligible ways to fix the problems that civilization has been based on backing up lies with violence for thousands of years, which social pyramid systems have been growing at a roughly exponential rate throughout that time due to progress in physical science, since the vast majority of people deliberately ignore the underlying science that has enabled technologies to be developed that are trillions of times more capable and powerful than ever before in human history.
While I AGREE that the banksters are the biggest gangsters, and therefore, will do nothing else than continue to back up lies with violence, and would not voluntarily stop doing that, the view that it would be possible to round them up or assassinate them is preposterous. We are discussing globalized systems of electronic frauds, backed by atomic bombs. I AGREE that the banksters systems of debt slavery backed by wars based on deceits can not be reformed, but rather, must necessarily drive themselves through their own runaway madness towards their own self-destruction, any and all attempts to assist them to do that will certainly accelerate the overall destruction, which, of course, it going to eventually happen anyway ...
There would be NOTHING "simple" regarding attempts to "covertly round the banksters up and assassinate them!" That is especially the case due to the background being that "money" has been made out of "nothing" to strip-mine the planet, for a long, long time, and so, WE HAVE ALREADY HIGH-GRADED OURSELVES TO HELL. Changing the monetary systems continues to be politically impossible to implement, due to the vicious spirals of the POLITICAL FUNDING, already having gone past the event horizon into its own social black hole, and moreover, any change in the monetary systems would be too little, too late, and too trivial to matter much, since the planet has already been raped and plundered to the point where the exponential growth of doing that has seriously overshot. While I AGREE with your assessment of the nature of the problems, and the nature of the banksters, the name you chose to post under on Zero Hedge states the overall situation: WE ARE HEADED TO HELL IN A HANDBASKET!
The banksters' debt slavery systems have ALREADY generated numbers that are debt insanities, which must automatically continue to get worse, faster, and for that to be matched by provoking death insanities. Inside of that context, should there ever actually be any assassinations of any banksters, that will merely be more death insanities, spinning out of control ... Indeed, in my view, the only theoretically possible realistic resolutions to the real problems would depend upon the social storms of death insanities, provoked by the runaway debt insanities, PERHAPS enabling the emergence of better death control systems, after those psychotic breakdowns of collapsing into crazy chaos. The BACKGROUND REALITIES will continue to be based upon the relatively objective situation that the political economy became based upon ENFORCED FRAUDS, which debt treadmills were strip-mining the planet at an exponential rate.
Everything was built on the basis of being able to continue what was effectively presumed to be the endless exponential growth of strip-mining the planet's natural resources. The established systems will not stop until they are forced to stop by running into the real limits of the consequences of having strip-mined the planet at an exponential rate. When we run into those consequences, the results will be catastrophic. The consequences of that will show up first and foremost within the fundamentally fraudulent financial accounting systems, no longer being able to continue their pyramid schemes, in the manner that were previously accustomed to being able to do.
At those points, where the "money" made out of nothing as debts to "pay" to strip-mine the planet can no longer find enough actual fresh planet left to strip-mine, there may well develop some murdering of the banksters, however, at the same time the banksters will be way more mass murdering others. Overall, when the exponential growth of strip-mining the planet overshoots to the point where that greatest boom is followed by the greatest bust, we may well see some cases of banksters being assassinated. However, at that point, doing that will no longer matter much.
Human systems manifest in ways which are consistent with general energy systems. What we describe as the path of least resistance in other energy systems in human terms is the path of least morality. Greece is merely one of the leading edges that are manifesting the consequences of civilization following through the path of least morality, due to civilization being "controlled" by ENFORCING FRAUDS.
The problem with solely blaming the banksters for THAT is that such a view does not look at the bigger picture. The banksters did NOT create the chronic political problems, they only developed expedient sets of solutions which benefited them. The short-sighted view that blames the banksters for everything, because they were actually the biggest gangsters, that were most controlling civilization, tends to NOT provide better death control systems, to replace those which the banksters operated through their debt slavery being backed by wars based on deceits.
I AGREE that it was essential to the successfulness of the banksters' political projects that they, from time to time, assassinated politicians who otherwise could not be bribed or assassinated. There is no doubt in my mind that money is measurement backed by murder, and that the banksters dominate the established systems because they were the best organized gangs of criminals. Therefore, I overall AGREE that: "Negotiations and reason doesn't work with the banksters."
Social systems based upon ENFORCED FRAUDS do not care about more rational evidence or logical arguments, EXCEPT to the degree that those could be applied in ways which enabled those systems to become better at backing up lies with violence. However, that overall issue manifests inside of the context of chronic political problems which are inherent to the nature of life, and must necessarily be resolved somehow. Human history has been the development of organized crime on larger and larger scales, as the history of warfare, based upon backing up deceits with destruction, which gradually morphed to become our political economy based upon ENFORCING FRAUDS. However, it is short-sighted to blame the banksters for the existence of the chronic political problems inherent in the nature of life, and even worse to believe that killing the banksters would provide any genuine solutions to those problems.
Rather, I promote the theory of series of intellectual scientific revolutions, which drastically change the ways that we perceive the political problems expressed through the human death control systems in general, and the human murder systems in particular. Assassination of the banksters would not make enough sense unless that was integrated into an overall artificial selection system, that radically transformed the ways that we perceived the death control systems. Superficial changes such as those which advocate assassinating the banksters would not be enough, but rather, would probably end up making things get even worse, even faster.
The central issue is that the banksters have the power to make the public "money" supply. Killing those banksters is not necessary to changing the social systems regarding the creation of the public money supplies. While it is certainly correct to regard money as measurement backed by murder, it is a gross over-simplification to assert that murdering banksters would resolve those problems in any more favourable ways. Rather, within systems of better death controls to back up better debt controls, killing individual banksters would probably be mistaken, since within better perceptions of the overall death control systems, such assassinations would not make much sense.
Greece: No Plan B
That 10 minute audio discusses that there is NO Plan B, because NO Plan B is politically possible, due to the basic background issue having been that civilization was based on making "money" out of nothing, in order to "pay" for strip-mining the planet, which processes are reaching real limits of diminishing returns.
Since the world is actually controlled by backing up lies with violence, which primarily manifests as governments enforcing the financial frauds of privately controlled banks, it is politically impossible to deal with the runaway problems that doing that so much, for so long, have allowed that to develop to astronomically amplified sizes. Since the established systems were based on being able to back up lies with violence, the only Plan A "solutions" are to continue to do that more than ever before. While it is relatively easy to annotate the ways that Plan A is actually doing that, there still is NO practical Plan B.
What I recommend I may refer to as a Plan C, which is a creative synthesis of Plan A and Plan B.
Plan A is for the banksters to continue to control civilization through ENFORCING FRAUDS.
Plan B is for some of the people to attempt to resist that, in various ways, such as speculated about in the article above. However, such manifestations of resistance tend to be myopic in the degree to which they blame the banksters as solely being responsible for the problems. That tends to be expressed as the superficial notions that the banksters should be arrested and/or executed. However, those superficial notions do not address the deeper reasons for how and why the banksters currently dominate civilization, and control what civilization does by being able to ENFORCE FRAUDS.
The essential issues are that there are, and must necessarily be, human death control systems, which back up all other systems. Furthermore, the most extreme examples of those are the human murder systems. Those who advocate "killing the banksters" tend to never come remotely close to being actually able to do that, and even worse, have no revolutionary theories regarding how to develop overall better integrated human death control systems, especially since those kinds of reactionary revolutionaries, who advocate "killing the banksters," tend to not develop any better ideas regarding human artificial selection systems in general, nor the human death controls and murder systems in particular.
The BIG PROBLEM is that historically the most socially successful human murder systems were operated through the maximum possible deceits and treacheries. THE DEVELOPMENT OF WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION HAS DRIVEN THOSE KINDS OF PSYCHOLOGICAL AND POLITICAL HABITS TO BECOME RUNAWAY CRIMINAL INSANITIES! The social successes based upon being able to back up lies with violence were the reasons for how and why we ended up with political economy based upon the banksters' systems of ENFORCED FRAUDS. Therefore, almost nothing exists now but a core of the banksters' organized crime, surrounded by controlled opposition groups, all of which have become forms of runaway criminal insanities.
For such controlled opposition groups to overthrow the core organized crime gangs appears to be politically impossible, except after the core organized crime gangs drive through their own mad self-destruction to their own breaking points first. Thereupon, some of the previously controlled opposition groups may go out of control. However, there are no good reasons to believe that those groups will do anything overall that makes things actually get better in that context. Rather, previously controlled opposition groups going out of control would most probably be yet another facet of the overall psychotic breakdowns of the previously established social systems.
The INTENSE PARADOXES are that when one fully faces how and why civilization is being controlled by the biggest gangsters, the banksters, the deeper reasons for that requires that the only realistic resolutions for those real problems must be better organized crime. That is what I would refer to as Plan C. In that context, new systems of death control MAY emerge out of the death insanities that are provoked by the runaway debt insanities, which were "paying" to strip-mine the planet, until that was no longer possible to continue to grow at an exponential rate, but rather has already overshot seriously, and must collapse into chaos.
Progress in physical science has changed things, EXCEPT that kind of progress has not been allowed to happen with respect to anything regarding human systems, since those systems were based on backing up lies with violence, in ways which have resulted in progress in physical science enabling the development of an oxymoronic scientific dictatorship, that adamantly refuses to become any more scientific about itself, but is only interested in becoming more scientific about how it can continue to ENFORCE FRAUDS.
Those problems with respect to the development of social pyramid systems to become oxymoronic scientific dictatorships includes BOTH the core of organized crime, the banksters, AND their surrounding layers of various controlled opposition groups. The essential problems are that human beings and civilizations ought to develop genuinely more scientific systems of artificial selection, BUT, the existing systems of artificial selection became driven by natural selection pressures to become based on the maximum possible deceits and frauds about themselves, and so, for all sociopolitical institutions to be operated by the best available professional liars and hypocrites, because that is the final result of social successfulness based upon being able to ENFORCE FRAUDS.
Plan C would require developing better artificial selection systems which were consistent with natural selection systems. However, that would demand dealing with how and why the existing systems of artificial selection are primarily those of the banksters' ENFORCED FRAUDS. The deeper issues are that money is measurement backed by murder. Therefore, the monetary systems can not be changed without changing the murder systems that back those up. Some people superficially see that, and therefore, call for some sorts of arrests and executions of the banksters. However, I do NOT agree with that! Rather, what I recommend is much more comprehensive transformations of the public money supplies, in ways which would theoretically require that enough of the people understood and agreed with the imperatives that the debt controls be backed up by the death controls.
The on-coming social storms of the establish debt slavery systems driving their numbers to become debt insanities are surely headed towards their own mad self-destruction, which may, in extreme cases, result in some of the banksters being caught up in the overall, mostly out-of-control, death insanities. However, the longer term goals should be to thereby catalyze the development of different death controls, within the context of different artificial selection systems, that are better reconciled with the natural selection systems, which therefore appreciate how and why the previously existing human murder systems became based on the maximum possible deceits and treacheries, which then enabled the political economy to become based upon governments ENFORCING FRAUDS by the banksters.
In my view, advocating that the banksters should be arrested and executed is a grossly over-simplistic view of the deeper levels of the problems that we face, which would actually most probably make things get worse, faster, rather than better. After the development of globalized electronic frauds, backed by atomic bombs, it is theoretically imperative that political science go through profound series of paradigm shifts that surpass those which have already been achieved by physical science. Primarily the means a creative synthesis and reconciliation between the natural selection and artificial selection systems, which should be done through greater use of information, enabling higher consciousness regarding how and why we operate the human death control systems.
I believe that better death control systems are the ONLY genuinely better solutions to our real problems. Of course, that appears to be politically impossible at the present time, since we are actually headed towards the banksters' systems of debt slavery backed by wars based on deceits driving their debt insanities to provoke death insanities. However, it is precisely those kinds of crises conditions that MAY PERHAPS provide some opportunities to develop better death control systems, within the context of better integrated human, industrial and natural ecologies. While I am interested in real, radical revolution, that is NOT going to be achieved merely by murdering some banksters. Rather, that is practically guaranteed to become counter-productive, since such actions would necessarily be based upon mistaken ideas regarding the death controls that back up the debt controls.
We are going to see the death controls change (primarily through more out of control death insanities). However, changes in the death controls that were expressed as assassinations of the banksters would be quite stupid and misleading things to do. Rather, only from within revolutionary transformations of our basic understanding of human beings and civilizations as entropic pumps of energy flows, that manifested natural selection pressures through those human systems, would it become possible that we MAY PERHAPS develop better overall perceptions of the death control systems, to enable there to operate better death controls to back up better debt controls.
However, OBVIOUSLY, we are currently on the tragic trajectory of the established systems of debt slavery driving their debt insanities to provoke death insanities, so of which death insanities might also include some assassinations of the banksters. However, such assassinations, in my opinion, would primarily be an expression of death insanities, rather than any saner resolutions of the real problems.
Most humans don't want to take responsibility for their own actions, education, physical fitness etc. it's a long list.
If you let others do these things for you, you will be exploited.
I'm OK with that.
What I have a problem with is having some brain-dead ill-informed arsehole putting himself in a position where the threats of violence may be directed at me.
Anarchism is the only way forward for humanity.
"Anarchism" never lasts, because the best organized gangs of criminals create the biggest forms of organized crime that call themselves the "government." That kind of government is able to operate within this rough categorization of different kinds of people:
http://sapiocracy.com/
So, is the professor at Columbia Angelos Keromytis? He's Greek, he teaches CS at Columbia, and he specializes in network security and cryptography.
Someone likely threatened several of Syriza's leading lights, but still:
Greece absolutely should default, leave the EU/EZ, and ask for reasonable help from the BRICS.
Unfortunately, Greece has chosen to be repeatedly raped for years to come - essentially all so young Greeks can keep trying to find work as gyro makers and organ-donaters in other EU countries.
Is Portugal next, or will France's carefully crafted illusions fail?
And behind it all - the cabal stands to rape country after country... just as the cabal raped Russia, more than once.
http://www.softpanorama.org/Skeptics/Pseudoscience/harvard_mafia.shtml
Soon it will come to America... zios will run the show...
So USA - want to take a shower? Any gold in those teeth that can be removed?
We need to de louse you white Christians... step this way...
Zio US pushing for war... at the same time they shall crush the US markets leaving even more Americans poor and starving.
http://sputniknews.com/analysis/20150726/1025071410.html
If the FED ECB and or Congress really wanted to help the people, QE would go into creating employment, such as public works.... but that is not the plan...
Driving up the markets to a fantastic crash allows zios to have controlling interest due to share buy backs from borrowed money that can be seized upon non payment...
Then the ruination of Christianity in Russia and US can continue as it did under USSR communist times..
Putin is the only Christian world leader.
wow - thanks for the link...original referenced article is
http://www.politico.eu/article/europe-russia-denial-ukraine-baltics-cent...
This is batshit crazy and brazen in its willingness to Orwellize the narrative of who is being aggressive.
Michta appears to be a warmongering globalist in the image of Zbig...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_A._Michta
...Sooo, a population which scrambled to extract as many Euros it could get out of the old banking system, because it did not trust the government, would have happily gone along a cockamie scheme by which the sole repositor of all ther financial wealth would have been the tax authorities.
Gee, Brilliant.
Greece exits and Deutsche Bank goes bust. This is why the Germans are so tough on Greece.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-12/deutsche-bank-next-lehman
Way too many puppets on the stage. Nothing's real except for the suffering.
The Greek government has to seize assets and get control of the Greek Central Bank? All these years we were told that central banks are part of the government and you were a kook if you thought otherwise.
So who owns these "central banks"? Who owns the Federal Reserve? How can we destroy their control of our ability to transfer money between parties?
This is so confusing at this point...it's worthless trying to keep up with what and why!!! At this point.......GO UNDER!
The Trail of the Troika
Hour and a half long documentary demonstrating:
THE MORE YOU KNOW, THE WORSE IT GETS!
Tsipras may be presently in a reasonably comfortable position. That will change as soon as the economic situation deteriorates further and as soon as the citizens understand that despite of the deal capital controls shall remain in force. As soon as any kind of bail-in is executed he will be out of his office. I think that is precisely the problem for the Troika. They can not lift the capital controls until the bail-in has been done. They can not do the bail-in until the 3rd "rescue" package has been agreed and signed because otherwise Tsipras will be gone and the "rescue" will be hanging in the air. The Troika needs about a month to finalize the "rescue" with Tsipras. Then their will be some additional time needed to execute the bail-in. By the time the capital controls could be lifted in October the Greece economy shall be toast. The 85 billion will be gone in no time and the talks about round No. four need to begin.
See you in couple months when Greek debt is $400 Billion, or we can wait for 2016 and make it even $500 Billion...
The EU has become a farce.
To the Greeks.. Take the time to prepare for a grexit and take your own destiny in your hands..
Debt Crisis Looms as Putin's Pledges Bankrupt Russian Regions
Three years ago, President Vladimir Putin promised the Russian people a kind of utopia: salaries would grow by up to 50 percent, average life expectancy would rise to 74 and waiting lists at kindergartens would disappear.
Conceived as electorate-pleasing proof of the state's concern for its people, these so-called "May orders" have instead become a towering testament to the reality of today's Russia: that the Kremlin's political ambitions have pushed domestic concerns into the shadows.
Russia's regional governments have fallen deeply into debt under the weight of these pledges. And with a drop in aid from the federal budget, which is increasingly tied up in such expensive projects as military rearmament and the integration of Crimea, relief is nowhere in sight.
The regions will need to cough up about 400 billion rubles ($7 billion) to service their commercial loans and bonds this year, according to ratings agency Standard & Poor's. A report issued by Moscow's Higher School of Economics (HSE) in May found that 20 of Russia's 83 regions may be technically in default already.
Default is politically impossible in Russia, the report added, but there is still a price to be paid. Dozens of regions have already axed investment in infrastructure and local industry, and more cuts are on the way, according to HSE.
In addition to pushing Russia's poorest citizens further into poverty, these cuts will in essence slash investment in Russia's human capital at a time when this investment is pivotal.
This is precisely the opposite of how developed economies reacted to the global financial crisis of 2008-09 — and the choice will have lasting consequences, said Alexander Deryugin, director of the Center for Regional Reform Studies at the Russian Presidential Academy of National Economy and Public Administration.
"In the long term, we won't have any chance of competing on equal terms with the major economies that we competed with only a short time ago. Russia will fall behind. This is what worries me the most," Deryugin said.
As spending obligations rise and incomes fall, the regions have one choice: borrow. And borrow they have.
Total regional debt, excluding federal aid, rose from 22 percent of the regions' income in 2009 (excluding federal aid) to 34 percent, or 2.4 trillion rubles ($42.3 billion), at the end of last year. Their debt could climb by around 25 percent to hit 3 trillion rubles ($52.9 billion) by the end of 2015, Vartapetov said.
Some regions are in significantly worse shape than others: 40 of Russia's 83 regions — excluding Crimea and Sevastopol — have debt exceeding 60 percent of their revenues, and 10 are nearing 100 percent, he added.
This debt load may not seem exceptionally high by international standards, but the bank loans obtained by the regions are largely short term and expensive to service, leaving the regions with huge yearly loan payments and a perilous dependence on the environment on financial markets.
This exposure to the markets came crashing down on the regions in late 2014 and early 2015, when lending rates soared after the Central Bank abruptly hiked its key rate to shore up the ruble currency.
Oil and gas crunch pushes Russia closer to fiscal crisis
'Russia is going to be in a very difficult fiscal situation by 2017. By the end of next year there won’t be any money left in the oil reserve fund,' says UnicreditRussia has fallen into full-blown depression and faces a mounting fiscal crisis as oil and gas revenues plummet.
Output from country’s state-owned gas giant Gazprom has collapsed by 19pc over the past year as demand shrivels in Europe, falling to levels not seen since the creation of the company at the end of the Cold War.
A report by Sberbank warned that Gazprom’s revenues are likely to drop by almost a third to $106bn this year from $146bn in 2014, seriously eroding Russia’s economic base.
• Shoplifting in Russia is soaring as the economy crumbles
Gazprom alone generates a tenth of Russian GDP and a fifth of all budget revenues. It will be several years at best before the country benefits from a new pipeline deal with China.
Russia is already in dire straits. The economy has contracted by 4.9pc over the past year and the downturn is certain to drag on as oil prices crumble after a tentative rally. Half of Russia’s tax income comes from oil and gas.
Core inflation is running at 16.7pc and real incomes have fallen by 8.4pc over the past year, a far deeper cut to living standards than occurred following the Lehman crisis. This time there is no recovery in sight as Western sanctions remain in place and US shale production limits any rebound in global oil prices.
“We’ve seen the full impact of the crisis in the second quarter. It is now hitting light industry and manufacturing,” said Dmitri Petrov from Nomura.
“Russia is going to be in a very difficult fiscal situation by 2017,” said Lubomir Mitov from Unicredit. “By the end of next year there won’t be any money left in the oil reserve fund and there is a humongous deficit in the pension fund. They are running a budget deficit of 3.7pc of GDP but without developed capital markets Russia can't really afford to run a deficit at all.”
A report by the Higher School of Economics in Moscow warned that a quarter of Russia’s 83 regions are effectively in default as they struggle to cope with salary increases and welfare costs dumped on them by President Vladimir Putin before his election in 2012. “The regions in the far east are basically bankrupt,” said Mr Mitov.
Russian companies have to refinance $86bn in foreign currency debt in the second half of this year. They cannot easily roll this over since the country is still cut off from global capital markets, so they must rely on swap funding from the central bank.
Russia Industrial Output Falls 4.8% on Year in June
MOSCOW--Contraction in Russia's industrial sector continued in June as output shrank in annual terms across mining, manufacturing and utility sectors, data from the Federal Statistics Service showed Wednesday.
Industrial output fell 4.8% on the year in June after contracting 5.5% the preceding month. This takes the slump in the country's industrial sector to 2.7% in the first half of the year.
In monthly terms, however, industrial output rose in June, fitting its usual trend, which is driven by long May holidays in Russia when many businesses are closed.
The weak industrial output data underpins the need for further monetary easing to boost Russia's economy, which shrank 2.2% on-year in the first quarter. But the scope for further monetary easing at the board meeting in late July is limited by high inflationary pressure.
The Federal Statistics Service also said Wednesday that consumer prices rose 0.1% in the week to July 13 after growing 0.7% in the preceding week due to a planned increase in utility tariffs. Though weekly inflation slowed back to levels seen in June, annual inflation remains high. So far this year, consumer prices have risen 9.4% compared with 5.3% in the same period a year ago.
first of all - your perpetual one note, off topic trolling should have got you kicked long ago;
second: http://www.usadebtclock.com/
Posting one sided articles all the time: pro-putin and bashing EU & US - is actual manipulation. I just blanace out for readers.
alance out ? Hahhah you troll like a stupid.
you dont need to provide balance, man - the ENTIRE FUCKING MAINSTREAM MEDIA provides this "balance."
The point you miss is that ZH, largely, is appealing to independents, ibertarians and iconoclasts because we get a different take {we are all familiar with the mainstream economic and political narratives} and a long leash free speech wise
- increasingly rare on all counts.
So due respect, but you posting anti-Russian/anti-Putin stuff ad nauseam [I am not talking abot providing links when its a story on russia, of course] is kinda fuckin' it up.
Look around the media: for the most part it's anti-putin and washing the EU's balls.
The whole point is to have an oasis - a break from that shit.
and as it happens, the "alternative narratives" as to Russia, or Palestine, or the banking system, etc - appear to be less false than what the msm and neocons are peddling.
Name ONE single fact that you think is untrue from what I wrote about Russia & Putin in that last comment - and prove it.
ONE!
Because I can give you MANY putin regime lies.
sure, politicians lie, Russia is sanctioned for letting Crimea rejoin and for complete lies about an invasion of the east.. but you can still read this:
http://www.softpanorama.org/Skeptics/Pseudoscience/harvard_mafia.shtml
and, if inclined:
https://consortiumnews.com/2014/03/02/what-neocons-want-from-ukraine-cri...
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/22090-neocons-and-the-ukraine-coup
"As for Nuland’s sidekick, U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Pyatt previously served as a U.S. diplomat in Vienna involved in bringing the International Atomic Energy Agency into a line with U.S. and Israeli hostility toward Iran. A July 9, 2009, cable from Pyatt, which was released by Pvt. Bradley Manning, revealed Pyatt to be the middleman who coordinated strategy with the U.S.-installed IAEA director-general Yukiya Amano.
Pyatt reported that Amano offered to cooperate with the U.S. and Israel on Iran, including having private meetings with Israeli officials, supporting U.S. sanctions, and agreeing to IAEA personnel changes favored by the United States. According to the cable, Pyatt promised strong U.S. backing for Amano and Amano asked for more U.S. money. [See Consortiumnews.com’s “America’s Debt to Bradley Manning.”]
It was Ambassador Pyatt who was on the other end of Nuland’s infamous Jan. 28 phone call in which she discussed how to manipulate Ukraine’s tensions and who to elevate into the country’s leadership. According to the conversation, which was intercepted and made public, Nuland ruled out one opposition figure, Vitali Klitschko, a popular former boxer, because he lacked experience."
I won't bother noting that both Pyatt and Nuland are Zionist Jews, as is a disproportionate amount of the new Ukraine leadership - from Yats, to Porky, to the chair of the parliament.... pretty good when you consider JEWS ARE LESS THAN 1% OF THE POPULATION.
As are the founders and the majority of "neoconservatives"
http://www.voltairenet.org/article178638.html
I encourage you to actually take 30 mins to read these links... you'll get better insight.
I cant speak for everyone, but for some, maybe most - it's really not so much about supporting Putin the man or politicians s opposing the forces arrayed against him - NWO, ZWO, Anglo-Zionist Imperium... whatever.
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2014/09/anglozionist-short-primer-for-...
It may be that**you** dont really understand that whatever Putin's crimes and sins and failings.... he *resists* {or seems to} the machinations of the DC/London/Tel Aviv axis of evil.
You didn't name A SINGLE LIE in text I posted.
You just didn't do it - instead you posted some other materials not regarding what I posted.
First putin told that there are no Russian army forces invloved in seizing Crimea - later in "documentary" he admits that he personaly organized this invasion even before so called "referendum":
https://youtu.be/NKvpVDBpahI
So now he lies again that there are no Russian forces in eat Ukraine - but that is again a lie - unfortunatley many doesn't understand Russian - I do:
https://youtu.be/OhktrWVO4V0
https://youtu.be/T9l-31M87VQ
When It comes to topic about Ukraine & Russia - I watch information in than language. I do understand it. So it's information from the ground. So I have not gathered info in ENG.
In the aftermath of the Ukrainian crisis, The Moscow Times was criticized by pro-Kremlin pundits like Izvestia columnist Israel Shamir, who in December 2014 called it a "militant anti-Putin paper, a digest of the Western press with extreme bias in covering events in Russia".[6] In October 2014 The Moscow Times made the decision to suspend online comments after an increase in offensive comments, possibly related to Russia's alleged online misinformation campaign over the Ukrainian crisis.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moscow_Times
no, its just propaganda - trying to {mostly} blame Putin for Russia's economic woes is fucking absurd.
Its like if someone gave a review of the American economy in the past 8 years - and every fact was true, but the agitprop was to blame Obama, without actually being able to do so.
Thats basically all you did.
Put another way - YOU are the one that copied and pasted from anti-Putin sources, on a story about GREECE, all of which seem to revel in a declining Russian economy, withotu mentioning GLOBAL trouble, or the legally questionable SANCTIONS russia has had to endure even as states like Israel get weapons and $$ for literally murdering children in their hospital beds.
aw, go fuck yourself, troll.
So again and again - YOU WHERE NOT ABLE to name a single lie in what I re-posted.
That is a point.
Ok, off you go now putin troll.
trouble reading? try it again asshole - you are trolling anti-Russian propaganda on a story about Greece.
I think I explained above how you are being deceptive.
pasting in text from several articles about the Russian economy, in an article about Greece, makes you a troll.
Trying to do so in order to somehow make it Putin's fault, irrespective of global conditions of absurd US sanctions...is the work of a cunt.
Now, good day, Sir.
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I SAID 'GOOD DAY'!
If newsoutlet is posting TRUTH he must be thanked for doing so.
The posting of truth by those who support other political sides must also be thanked. But only the truth.
Making up excuses for avoiding the truth always does disservice.
The truth from one political camp does not negate the truth of the other. Once you know the turth's you can try to walk through the sewage fille swamp without stepping into either sides sewage too deep.
I was not aware that Putin may have put local govt.s into debt. When this has happened elsewhere it is called out as assisting the bankers extract capital from the people. Same applies for Putin if he has done so.
Did you also know, or was aware, that the first stage of Saturn V rocket had fuel efficiency of 5 inches per gallon? Discuss.
Some 930m rubles (£10.4m) of goods were stolen from Russian stories in 2014, an increase of 44pc on the 648m rubles-worth swiped the previous year.
This is debunked on Reddit already as it doesn't account for ruble devaluation (wonder why is only the first number given in British £), nor inflation. So there you go about your "line".
Let me clue you in, nobody really cares what you have to say here as what you are saying is just an echo from the mainstream media, thus informational value of your contributions here is zero.
I lived in Crimea, great place... all Russians there. They don't like zionist Pres and Pm and oligarchs in Ukraine gov.
What does it have to do with the article? Stay on topic you ADD moron or GO AWAY.
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Laughed. Your trickery is feeble and transparent, kazu draazejs, because you wrote nothing. Your "facts" are just bull-psak that you copypaste in efforts earn a daily potato.
What can envy semiliterate paid troll such as you? It's all garbage...forget it! This material is worked out, find a new training manual.
OK, then it will be easy for you to show his information is not correct, no?
Listen Bub... when zio's took office in Kiev, in the first week in office they passed a law that Russian speakers could not use their language in work business or school.... many do not speak Ukrainian... so how the fuk would you like it if mexicans took over your state and said now all is in Spanish,,, and you don't speak spanish.... now how the fuk would you like that? Would you pick up a gun, or take spanish lessons??? I think the latter for you...wus face..... what kind of man are you? I suppose you cream your jeans when they shell east ukraine and kill women and children... that doesn't seem to be a problem for you and your media.
Ok, fine. But how does that make the items he claims as facts untrue?
His posting seems to have so much truth in it that it scares you, why?
ya, we got CNN, CNBC, Reuters, CBC, ABC, NBC, etc etc ...and now we got this goy...
It is hard to believe isn't it... this dude laps up the lies of the zio media and then is so riled up by them he feels it's his duty to convert us on ZH....
Truly this is comedy... like dumb and dumber.
what a tool... wants to work for zio's who would roast him in the oven at first chance... while they destroy his heritage, country....
This is the definition of stupid.
Reminds me of an idiot I know... he wanted to work in the financial sector and make big money so he thought being a jew would help... went to speak to a rabbi who was also a convert... rabbi told him.. "your plan won't work, they won't hire you when they find out you do not have the genes"
guess rabbi convert was not in good grace either...
Putin is a christian bub.... perhaps if you are a christian you should consider that and what is happening in your own nation
he is funny.. I got the biggest laugh all day from this troll... a goy defending zio media...
hahahahhahahahahahahahhahaha!
Discredited sources . Try hard .