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Could Trump Win?
Submitted by Patrick Buchanan via Buchanan.org,
The American political class has failed the country, and should be fired. That is the clearest message from the summer surge of Bernie Sanders and the remarkable rise of Donald Trump.
Sanders’ candidacy can trace it roots back to the 19th-century populist party of Mary Elizabeth Lease who declaimed:
“Wall Street owns the country. It is no longer a government of the people, by the people, and for the people, but a government of Wall Street, by Wall Street, and for Wall Street. The great common people of this country are slaves, and monopoly is the master.”
“Raise less corn and more hell!” Mary admonished the farmers of Kansas.
William Jennings Bryan captured the Democratic nomination in 1896 by denouncing the gold standard beloved of the hard money men of his day: “You shall not press down upon the brow of labor this crown of thorns, you shall not crucify mankind upon a cross of gold.”
Sanders is in that tradition, if not in that league as an orator. His followers, largely white, $50,000-a-year folks with college degrees, call to mind more the followers of George McGovern than Jennings Bryan.
Yet the stagnation of workers’ wages as the billionaire boys club admits new members, and the hemorrhaging of U.S. jobs under trade deals done for the Davos-Doha crowd, has created a blazing issue of economic inequality that propels the Sanders campaign.
Between his issues and Trump’s there is overlap. Both denounce the trade deals that deindustrialized America and shipped millions of jobs off to Mexico, Asia and China. But Trump has connected to an even more powerful current.
That is the issue of uncontrolled and illegal immigration, the sense America’s borders are undefended, that untold millions of lawbreakers are in our country, and more are coming. While most come to work, they are taking American jobs and consuming tax dollars, and too many come to rob, rape, murder and make a living selling drugs.
Moreover, the politicians who have talked about this for decades are a pack of phonies who have done little to secure the border.
Trump boasts that he will get the job done, as he gets done all other jobs he has undertaken. And his poll ratings are one measure of how far out of touch the Republican establishment is with the Republican heartland.
When Trump ridicules his rivals as Lilliputians and mocks the celebrity media, the Republican base cheers and laughs with him.
He is boastful, brash, defiant, unapologetic, loves campaigning, and is putting on a great show with his Trump planes and 100-foot-long stretch limos. “Every man a king but no man wears a crown,” said Huey Long. “I’m gonna make America great again,” says Donald.
Compared to Trump, all the other candidates, including Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush, are boring. He makes politics entertaining, fun.
Trump also benefits from the perception that his rivals and the press want him out of the race and are desperately seizing upon any gaffe to drive him out. The piling on, the abandonment of Trump by the corporate elite, may have cost him a lot of money. But it also brought him support he would not otherwise have had.
For no group of Americans has been called more names than the base of the GOP. The attacks that caused the establishment to wash its hands of Trump as an embarrassment brought the base to his defense.
But can Trump win?
If his poll numbers hold, Trump will be there six months from now when the Sweet 16 is cut to the Final Four, and he will likely be in the finals. For if Trump is running at 18 or 20 percent nationally then, among Republicans, it is hard to see how two rivals beat him.
For Trump not to be in the hunt as the New Hampshire primary opens, his campaign will have to implode, as Gary Hart’s did in 1987, and Bill Clinton’s almost did in 1992.
Thus, in the next six months, Trump will have to commit some truly egregious blunder that costs him his present following. Or the dirt divers of the media and “oppo research” arms of the other campaigns will have to come up with some high-yield IEDs.
Presidential primaries are minefields for the incautious, and Trump is not a cautious man. And it is difficult to see how, in a two-man race against the favorite of the Republican establishment, he could win enough primaries, caucuses and delegates to capture 50 percent of the convention votes.
For almost all of the candidates who will have dropped out by then will have endorsed the last man standing against Trump. And should Trump be nominated, his candidacy would make Barry Goldwater look like the great uniter of the GOP.
Still, who expected Donald Trump to be in the catbird seat in the GOP nomination run before the first presidential debate? And even his TV antagonists cannot deny he has been great for ratings.
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We can only hope
From the recently “leaked” NSA audio recordings:
Donald wakes Ivana up, “Honey, I have a boner”.
Ivana: “Dontcha know where my holes are? Never EVER wake me up again for this shi… zzz… zzz…” ;-)
Looney
The queen is dead, long live the Queen.
Trump has the right emotion: anger. It remains to be seen if the rest of the field will learn from that.
The biggest loser so far is Jeb, from prohibitive front runner, to hanging on for dear life.
And Jeb is the saviour of the Bush dynasty?
Even the CIA under Bush Gramps couldn't get Jeb elected.
Trump winning would be like BERLUSCONI winning in Italia. Sure - It can happen, but that's when you know a country has gone FULL(ER) RETARD.
IOW ~ The message it sends isn't so much as:
"We endorse this candidate"
so much as
"Fuck politics & politicians"
People are tired of the current direction we are heading.
Immigration
Jobs
Taxes
Gas/Food Prices.
List goes on and on
Job Layoff Situation - http://www.dailyjobcuts.com
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God bless Donald Trump and keep him and his family safe from harm.
Two of the Most Beautiful Black Women in America Stump for Trump (Video)
Beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder...
Chris Christie is just as bad
Campaign ad: http://www.planbeconomics.com/2015/07/chris-christie-campaign-ad.html
Hilary Clinton attended Trump's wedding on 2005. He has donated to the Demoratic Party, including the time during CLinton's Senate run. On four separate occasions, Trump has donated to Hillary Clinton, in 2002, 2005, 2006 and in 2007. Trump has given between $100,0001 and $250,000 to the Clinton Foundation.
If you want Clinton, vote Trump. Also, Trump is polling double-digits head-to-head versus Clinton. Just like 2012, Dr. Paul is polling best verus the democrates. This time it Rand Paul, of course.
This shit gets better and better. Mark Meadows (R-NC) is now going after Boehner:
Full Text of Rep. Mark Meadows Motion to Vacate the Speaker of the House (Boehner)The US needs a Howard Beale style POTUS and Trump seems to fit the bill... He gets my vote, only because the rest of the political establishment cronies are corrupt to the core and I wouldn't piss on any of them if they were on fire, red, blue or otherwise...
Trump doesn't do Bilderberg or Bohemian Grove like Obama ,Bush, Clinton, Christie, Biden, Kerry...YOU THINK TRUMP IS GOING TO DO A WORLD APOLOGY TOUR LIKE OBAMA DID? Don't hold your breath.
We had a chance to elect the real version of Donald Trump, back in '88 and '92. His name was Ross Perot and he predicted almost everything that has happened since, if he wasn't elected. He was pretty much spot on.
So now, we have this clown version of Ross, and even though I find him despicable, I would probably vote for him over the rest of the clowns.
Ross Perot in '88 & '92. Ron Paul a couple times. Those were our chances to save the country. It's over. We're done here, it's just waiting for the Fat Lady to sing, now.
The short answer is he can't win. He's a great way to show the power elite the people are pissed off though. Once people realize what he has supported in the past there's no way he will draw 1%. Great for the entertainment value though. Watching these Washington scum deal with him on a debate stage should be fun.
BANE 2016
I'd like to see the Ruling Class asshats, the Crony Capitalists and the MFM all have to answer for this story, that also just happens to prove an earlier point made by Mr Trump - http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/07/lake_county_murder_susp...
(crickets)
i agree with much of your thoughts here. i have a couple of questions about trump (and all politicians):
what is her/his position on israel and the too big to fail banks?
why should i/we believe what s/he says?
clinton and obama are eloquent liars. bush is an incoherent one.
it's not what they disagree on that's the problem. it's what they agree on.
Trump's da Man!
http://johngaltfla.com/wordpress/2015/07/28/two-of-the-most-beautiful-bl...
Obama eloquent?
Obviously you have not heard him when the teleprompter goes out.
Voted for Perot. Would have voted for Ron Paul.
Trump? All for stirring the pot and shifting the conversation, but I just can't this guy seriously. He comes across as a walking talking caricature.
Anyone over Hillary the Inevitable. So obviously and blatantly corrupt.
Wish something like "no confidence" was in play, as in if X percent vote "none of the above" they call it a scratch and start over. Draft a random respected city council leader from a big metro area for the interim. They might be bought, but probably not nationally bought.
I know Rand is not Ron, but I wouldnt say he is corrupt to the core.
If you get your wish, I hope you don't own 'assualt' weapons...or have property where Trump want to build. He has shown in the past that he will use government 'power' to take it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmM4ZBoppNQ
Rand is already in bed with AIPAC, so he is dead to me...
Fair enough. I don't like he has sucked up to Isreal either. But come on man, Trump has already done much more for the clintons than Rand has done for AIPAC or Isreal.
Ron Paul was a truer candidate.
His ideas were sound, but, he is no leader. That rare quality of driving fire is not in his soul. Such heat can only be procured in the cauldron of suffering. Only when this country and world begin to truly feel the pangs of physical hardship will such a person appear. That time is coming. Be on the lookout and discriminate to your utmost to ascertain the truth in his message when it finally emerges. When it does - back it with all your resources. Those ideas and that leader will, of course, not appear from the MSM (i.e. Trump), but as an unstoppable undercurrent with the few independent thinkers surging it forward. All revolutions are driven by a tiny minority. Alas, the more recent examples are of the malevolent stripe with usury and biblical tribalism as their motivating factors. Obviously, these are based in lies, and thus they cannot be sustained. What we are looking for are the revolutionary ideals based on truth and the indomitable laws of nature. Once this victory is attained, it will be our responsibility to maintain an everlasting vigilance against those satanic forces which always strive to enslave.
great thoughts! but i have been duped by these blow hards for way too long to give two shits anymoar. haven't voted for 12 years and trump is just another oligarch type guy. doubt anybody can rise against the establishment. and if that special leader does arrive and actually gets elected, the task is formidable to impliment any real change without sever consequences. ie balancing the budget w/o numerous serverly bad consequences before the good arrives. political suicide too.
this, merica, is way too gone to be retrived. fsa is a formidable problem, not to mention balacing the budget and causing millions of layoffs and an economic depression, fucking toast, enjoy the ride til the crumble evolves to a chaotic crash. greece is the template - hope i'm dead by then...
Don't be despondent, new game...
As long as you go to your grave KNOWING you stood for the truth, you can rest easy and live life to its fullest.
In doing so, never lay down your guard or courage in fighting or thwarting the liars in our midst. Right now, we are mere mosquitos pestering TPTB, but in time, our swarm of truth will overwhelm and doom them. It's actually inevitable... not optimistic, but realistic.
"he is no leader"
That in itself is a great deal of his appeal. No wonder he was ignored, he refused to become a demagogue.
i hope we get the, "go over to the window and open it and cry out, 'i'm madder than hell, and i'm not going to take it anymore'." and not the you have interfered with the galactic forces and you must atone part.
I think that is what we are getting right now with Trump... The "silent majority" are feeling this sentiment and Trump is their voice... Simple as that...
Maybe people will go back to shouting out of their windows when they break the Internet because it's become too much of an annoyance. But you will only be allowed to shout between the hours of 7 - 10 PM and no profanity will be tolerated.
Stop playing red vs blue real money. It is 50+ years of this kind of gotcha bullshit that has us being bent over daily by the political class. Although Trump has worts he scares this shit out of the establishment because he cannot be controlled. This is the point of liberty and he has awakened the silent majority. Win or lose he is a breath of fresh air.
I hope he becomes more outrageous so it wakes the sheeple from their mind fuck slumber.
Actually, I have not voted for a red or blue in the past 2 presidential elections. Nice try! I know that they are just different gangs working for the same masters. I just stated facts. You infered party politics. So how do you explain his continued support of the clintons?
Bad judgement? Several bad mistakes? Or do you honestly believe he is a different person from 2003? Or a different person from 2004? 2005? 2007? 2008?
Pretty sure the man answered that question several times and i think he answered it honestly. He paid both sides of the isle because that's the game. The guy doesnt even try to lie about it and in his answer he exposes how corrupt the system is and he doesnt try to pretend he was above it. This is how shit works, good government to the highest bidder. The media morons who interview him can't get their retarded heads around that thinking they have ammunition but this dude simply doesnt give a fuck. Period. Read between the lines.
Still, he gave money to Hilary Clinton MULTIPLE times. And now we are all supposed to believe that he actually doesn't want her in the White House?
And if he was just playing politics, before he was a politican, why did he support her Senate campaign? Why did she attend his wedding?
Also, almost everyone that likes Trump does so beacuse 'He is different. He is not a politician. He doesn't have to play games.' So was he just playing politics? Or does he actually like Clinton? Either way the dude isn't who everyone is saying he is.
Don't think you're getting the point. You need to take things in context. The man said he gave money to the wicked witch.. he also said, he gave money to everybody indiscriminantly. Why? Because the guy was buying favor. You act like he is the only one who does this. Noone is saying Trump is an angel, most of all himself, but you're stuck on this Hillary thing and your obstinant stance on this seems rather disingenuous. Regardless, someone like Trump will never be allowed to win the nomination. Its already been explained by another commentor that the election is rigged just like everything else. So calm down there Ace.
His concern for the Hillary donations is disingenuous. He's probably a three letterer.
A drowning man grasps at straws.
The Murican electorate sure as Hell qualifies as a drowning man...
He was friends with Rosie O'Douchebag in the past too. I think she came to his wedding. Last time I heard him talk about her he called her a pig or a fat pig. That was few years ago. So it seems that he has had friends and associations in the past that he disowned.
I don't care how you vote nor did I infer who you have voted for in the past. My point is simply this: I acknowledge that Trump has been part of the crony capitalist regime (I.e. "He hs warts"). But finally someone who is taliking back when his individual liberty is challenged by the establishment.
He is certainly not Lilly white and pure, but by definition nobody is in today's political class. Including either Ron or Rand Paul. I'll give you this both of the Paul's speak/spoke up but when pressed the were suppressed because they did not hit back at the MSM or establishment.
Thus why a candidate like Trump is exactly what we need. White guilt, man bashing, and PC starts to end with his candidacy.
Donald Trump appears to have Mark Cuban's vote, at least in terms of how the billionaire real estate mogul is conducting his political campaign.
Cuban took to his Cyber Dust messaging app this week to congratulate Trump, referring to the Republican presidential candidate as "probably the best thing to happen to politics in a long, long time."
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/07/28/mark-cuban-says-donald-trump-has-changed-...
You all downvoted facts, with no comment. It still doesn't changed things of your false hero. Trump is a friend of Hilary's. It wasn't just a phase or a campaign, but repeated behaivor. Why no comments about his continued support and connection to the Clintons???
Trump called Hilary the worst Secretary of State in history...Yeah, they're tight
Yeah in an election year when he's running against her. But what about the previous decade of support to clinton? that goes out the window because of one tiny statement. Yeah I guess you're right. I believe Trump now too. I mean words are so much more honrable and believable than hundreds of thousands of dollars (or more)!
100,000 of thousands of dollars to trump, all tax deductable is like you putting up 100 dollars, particularly when he also makes the statement that to do business you have to pay the lobbiest to pay the politicians because thats how the game is played right now. i get the message from trump that maybe he wants to change this system. not getting my hopes up but think about it, i'm tired of voting for the least stinking toilet bowl, at leat the sumbitch has run a business and made a penny or two, people claim he has been bankrupted many times, well the sumbitch got up dusted off and got back in the saddle, thats what a man does and its a hell of a lot more than the pastey faced weak ass jackoffs we have had in office most of my life. come on most of the assholes we have had as president could be knocked out by asparagus piss, i want a president that is mean as catshit on linoleum. one that people are physically afraid of, walks into congress and says, you will do this, and starts kicking ass to anybody that wants to argue the toss. i want andrew jackson but he is dead.
Trump is no dummy, he gave a bunch o money to both parties. Keep all the wheels greased
No he cant and wont, sorry to burst everyone's bubble but we seem to forget TPTB are behind the curtain continuing to orchestrate this Kabuki theater. Nothing will change unless the whole system changes
And why not Trump the start?
...or the beer holder.
Wow...some kind of beautiful! They're terrific.
fuck man. their combined vote is worth twice what yours is. dont ever forget that.
They're still damn funny.
Sure he 'Could' win and he will win,,, Unless, well you know what I mean, it would be a scary situation for powerful interests to see a man who does his own thinking sitting in the Oval Office.
'The Donald' is good with money too, The story is; he inheirited $400 Million from his Father and he turned that into a fortune, this country is going broke, we need a no-nonsence man like "The Donald" to get us back on prosperity's highway!
This is just magical.
The delicious irony that the one political entity that chimes with the people of America is an egocentric billionaire from Manhatten!!
Obama made big promises and didn't deliver anything...
Who doubts that Donald Trump can't "get things done".
Trump is so rich and so old, he no longer gives a shit about money. His salary is $250m FFS. He can say and do whatever he likes.
Throw the kitchen sink at him, he doesn't care. Trump doesn't need anyone and therefore he is free to rise above the politik.
I think Obama has delivered plenty...
Of treachery.
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowhere remotely near as delicious as the irony that everyone here is giving Trump a free pass for his absolutely rabid Zionism and militarism that border on self-parody.
Actually they aren't self-parody, because anyone should be able to recognize that he doesn't believe a single word of his own "platform." The man is a lifetime New York Democrat and damn well couldn't care less about immigration.
Sorry, Fool. Country already went FULL RETARD with George HW and Obozo....
I'd be willing to give up a LOT to have a President who would prosecute the criminals who occupied the office before him. And their lackies...
Obama
Hillary
Corzine
Jarrett
etc
Oh I see, but a cock sucking mulato queer with no skill no acomplishments is just fine. Right?
Nuh uh.
The message is, "Finally. A leader!"
I do not approve of his candidacy.
I am the New York Yankees’ Jumbotron and I approve his message. ;-)
Looney
For anyone who has seen how the nomination process works from the inside, it is NOT about who the masses support. The delegate selection process is often opaque and complicated and varies state to state. The folks who are part of and control this process can significantly bias outcomes through all sorts of manuevers up to and including flat out breaking the rules.
Don't believe? If your republican party flat out broke the nomination rules and picked a candidate their members didn't want ... what is the recourse? Take them to court? They are a private organization with their OWN rules ... much like a board of directors can set rules for themselves to follow and promptly break those rules if they feel like it. It isn't a LAW, its an internal RULE of a PRIVATE organization. Who is going to enforce that?
But they try to avoid that because they need folks to play along ... and most folks don't pay enough attention to realize how it really works.
Regards,
Cooter
Constitutional convention anyone?
Supposedly on tabs for 2016. Supposedly 38 or more staes have approved it. maybe a few inquiries from the public is in order. We all know how sloppy this current administration is about info and details of things not in their advantage.
P.S. Mike Krieger, seems this would be right up your alley. Milestones
I suspect the only answer to all of this is to keep on stacking.
Yes, stick with the narrative no matter what happens.
Just like Ramon in Fistful Of Dollars.
"The heart Ramon, always aim for the heart."
the LAST thing you want in this country is a constitutional convention. Watch the Mark Dice video where he gets a bunch of people to sign a petition to repeal the bill of rights. When this country is full of people that hopelessly stupid, a constitutional convention would be a disaster. For starters, you could kiss the right to bear arms good bye, at least in the sense we regard it.
I know you have the right idea, that we could fix a lot of things, and we could, but the problem is too many americans are just too hopelessly stupid to act in their own self interest, and the exact opposite would happen. You have WAY too much faith in the intelligence of your fellow citizens if you think it would go in our favor
I concur. best to just keep improving yourself and your survivability in a SHTF situation. Worry about yourself and family first.
Yes.
True. A large portion, perhaps a majority of people have been Gruberized.
Strongly agree. How about following The Constitution, before having a convention to change it? It has not failed us, we have failed it.
At green Carl
Oh I beg to differ. We have close if not a majority "looking out for their best interest": keeping the free shit train on the tracks.
Constitutional convention?
Turn off Mark Levin.
You ever seen Mark Levin (not-so-deep-cover kike) openly carry a gun in public? Or pray to Jesus?
Fuck you.
I've never seen a private citizen carry a gun in public.
So what's your point.
I was going to say no that would be a bad idea since the people that would attend would eliminate our rights. But that's a moot point since the Roberts Supreme Court with the "Wise" Latina, the kosher people et. al simply rubberstamp whatever the power brokers of the DC-Manhattan axis of will want. We have no Constitution. We have no rights. The Republic is kaput.
See Greece.
Good points, Cooter, but this Dude is a loose cannon. He understands mass media. For better and worse, he is a drama queen. If he wins big in the media centers, NY, Joisy, Calipornia, he'll pick up more than enough elsewhere.
The real question is whether he will get bored with this, throw a hissy fit, and go home.
The republican party machinery will not pass Trump as a candidate regardless of what registered republicans do or want. Just. Wont. Happen.
Consider the Saga of Russ Millete and Debbie Brown (do your own digging - here is one article) in Alaska.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/13/debbie-brown-ousted_n_3073122.html
Federal and State election LAWS have to be followed, so it isn't a complete street brawl, but the nomination process is run by PRIVATE organizations (i.e. Republican and Democrat parties) and they can do whatever the hell they want.
If Trump is serious, he should be getting his third party machinery in order.
Regards,
Cooter
I can assure you donald trump has no interest in becoming president,,,,,and jeb bush isnt acutally running a real campaign nor is hillary as this is all business as usual until the actual campaigns begin AFTER the end,,,,,,,
"Americans are going to want that new car smell" Barrack OBama
Sorry Folks dont believe Jeb Hillary or even our beloved billionaire are "Actually" going to run...... this JIG is up
To win, Trump will have to overwhelmingly capture the primary states, because the convention states are going to be heavily stacked against a candidate with no track record of party involvement and thus no base within the party structure to carry his banner in convention halls.
In 2012, I wanted Ron Paul. The GOP-e/Adelson were backing Romney. Adelson also was backing CFR Gingrich to siphon off conservative votes from Santorum. Santorum won Iowa and was destroying Romney in the Midwest. So what did the GOP-e and Rove do? They stole it for Romney in the cities like Detroit plus other cities in Wisconsin, and a few others. Santorum would carry every county except the cities. Santorum was then threatened to force him to drop out. He did it all with very little funding.
When the general election came around, Obola did the same thing to Romney in cities in Ohio, Florida, VA and other key states. Early voting and voting after the polls closed. Romney and the whole GOP-e disappeared for days after the election was stolen.
The GOP-e did it again in 2014 when Thad Cochran stole his Senate seat (twice) against conservative Chris McDaniel. The GOP-e got Democrats to offer $15 for black Dem votes for Cochran. They also rigged the vote in various counties. McDaniel won twice.
The USA does not have real elections. 2012 and 2008 were all rigged and 2000 and 2004 were not much better.
You nailed it ..GOP establishment would rather ha e another establishment pick even a phoney commie CIA asset community's organizer..anyone who thinks the ""magic negro""did not have massive help from central banks, Jamie Dimon had his head so far up Obama ass he was looking at his tonsils. Obama got more money from rhe TBTFB than anyone..like Carter who was a Rockefeller protege..media made OBAMA Trump will not be president ..the ONE PARTY SYSTEM WILL NOT ALLOW IT. But damn its GREAT FOR a CHANGE TO SEE SOMEONE NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT GIVE VOICE TO THOSE WHO NO LONGER HAVE ANYONE. They will push us into whatever kind of abomination new world order they have in mind..some regions will not go willingly and for decades therevwill likely be armed revolts here and there..until we are the Balkans or millions separate from the central govt. If they getbtotal control of food production ..then 90 percent are toast but that 10 percent might make life hell for them for somebtime. Sooner or later the bad guys lose ...but it will take awhile.
It mitigates my shame in drinking heavily on a Tuesday night to know I am not alone
ROTFLMAO
Thanks for the bellylaugh!
Santorum will bend over for AIPAC and get on his knees for Israel anytime they want him to so I don't see why old Sheldon would have a problem with him.
@ Cooter
You only had to be a Ron Paul republican in 2008 and 2012 cycles to know the truth of what you say.
There are morlocks who dwell in the republican party sewers who run the processes.
They have the levers, and the buttons to get what they want.
The problem with that theory is that if Trump has strong public support and should be winning the nomination but is blocked by establishment chicanery, he will go third party and destroy them. They might be prepared to give up the presidency but there are all the other candidates up and down the ticket who depend on the coattails who would be put at risk.
And if Trump does go third party, expect him to do something that seems outlandish but is calculated for a big effect, like appointing Oprah as VP nomination. She'd pull more women than Clinton.
What the Republican establishment could get away with against Ron Paul becomes very high risk for them against a multi-billionaire who has a massive ego, only plays to win, and operates on the basis of hitting hard anyone who hits him, none of which could be said about Ron Paul.
Trump is there to siphon off votes from Jeb and get Hillary elected. He's a Clinton operative who knows where his bread is buttered.
Obama 2016!!!
Moochelle can run with a McRib as VP.
Perhaps a DiBlasio/Moochele ticket?
Trump / Cosby
Gets the black guilt vote, plus rednecks and the all-important molestation vote.
Women, not so much.
@MH, its not really inconvievable to picture him doing a "gruber" moment on a hot mic saying something like that.
"call it the stupidity of the american voter, but republicans are so easy to fool. All you gotta do is say you are sick and tired of a bunch of mexicans hopping the fence and committing crimes, and take jabs at the political establishment goons like mccain and graham that everyone already hates anyway, and viola, you have millions of moronic GOP voters eating out of your hand. Then all I gotta do is sit back and say ill run third party, and syphon off enough votes to ensure hillary wins. Works everytime"
far fetched? perhaps, but not inconcievable, especially for someone who has given her money so many fucking times. For a bucnh on people who were ready to hang peter schiff for not strangling ben bernanke when they had a picture taken together, yall sure are forgiving to someone who has donated money to billary so often
Carl, we have nothing to lose. Jeb can't beat Hillary and it doesn't matter. They (Jeb and Hillary) are on the same team anyway.
"Trump is there to siphon off votes from Jeb and get Hillary elected. He's a Clinton operative who knows where his bread is buttered."
similar things were said about every and each candidate that was not in the the favourite son of one of the two big parties that dominate American politics
fact is that whenever there is only one seat to capture, two contendents will lead the race (A & B), and the third one (C) will be seen as a detraction from one of the two
fact is that a one seat, one winner takes all system can lead to a polarization of politics. polarization means a division in two camps only, btw
as a reminder, George Washington, the rebel general and first president, believed that such divisions into factions (his words) was deleterious to the young republic
as a further reminder, many other countries that do have a presidential system based on direct elections have a first race and then a run-off of the two leading candidates
if you were brought up in a religion without any comparison to other religions, you might believe that burning widows after the husband died is "just the way of the world"
if you fervently believe that your constitution and electoral system are great... but you have no comparison to other constitutions and other electoral systems...
... then you are an easy victim of propaganda. like that of the two-party system
what does a one-party system abhor above all other things? more political parties
what does a two-party system abhor above all other things? more political parties
what do they both have in common? a simple slogan: "you are either with us or against us". the hallmark of fundamentalism and radicalims, btwIt's a fantasy bruh..
Trump can't/won't get more than max 25-30% of the 'general population'. The people who live in America are (obviously) collectively retarded.
Thats the truth. Its reality.
El bozo has been elected TWICE.
Don't mistake your own ability to desire a shakeup with the reality of a nation owned by its media.
Trump is most likely a Clinton plant. Even if he isn't ( I believe strongly he is) the guy will not ever be POTUS.
Sorry.
Just telling the truth.
65 million Americans voted for Obama in 2012. That's about 20% of the total population give or take.
That's who rules all of us. So to say that Trump 'can not be elected' is actually playing into the hands of the propagandists and the current power structure.
He most certainly can be elected. If half of white men and a quarter of white women voted for him, it would be more than enough.
If he keeps saying the things most white people are thinking, he will continue to gain momentum, simply because neither party in the establishment represents the interests of straight white Americans with jobs.
They claim to do so during elections but never follow through.
Not that Trump would be any different in that regard, but they fear him because he's a catalyst. A spark plug to ignite the combustible mixture of economic frustration, racial persecution, and just overall sickofitallness present in large swathes of taxpaying white Americans.
ZH is full of comments along these lines along with m any other websites that cater to our demographic.
Folks are waking up, and once fully awakened things might start happening that the PC crowd doesn't like.
fuk da republicants..
Q: How many republicants does it take to change a light bulb?
A: Answer: No one knows because no one has seen one since Ronald Reagan the president who cleaned up the mess left after the second worst democrap president, passed away.
get out of here with your ronnie worship. He ran on a bunch of libertarian rhetoric and then did exactly NONE of it. There is a common problem on here with people remembering reagan for what he said rather than what he actually did. Promised fiscal dicipline, he was even going to abolish the debt of education, and assured everyone that govt wasn't the answer, but the problem.
Then, as president, it was his admin that gave us the 'deficits don't matter' meme, he FUCKING TRIPLED the national debt, ramped up the unconstitutional and immoral war on drugs( he even tried to change posse comitatus to use the military to help, small govt of him..), and not only did he NOT end the dept of education, it got a bigger budget every single year he was in office. As for him somehow causing the collapse of the USSR, it was a crumbling facade of its former self by the time he got into office and was on its way out anyway, as ALL socialist, central planned countries eventually do.
He was a disappointment and utter failure of a president, and Im sick of people on ZH still being stupid enough to worship at the alter of Saint Ronnie of the republicans. and yes, Im your second downvote as i type this, so looks like Im not the only one
One of my favorite reference points is the last president to actually reduce the federal budget YoY was ... Eisenhower. Every one after him grew it by some percentage YoY (how much varies quite a bit).
Regards,
Cooter
Sure He will win! The only people who won't vote for him are the ones who want someone else to win! there are not very many of those!
Reagan was given .22cal message about what he would be allowed and not allowed to do less than 90 days into his first administration.
He was a good man-but had he not listened-they would have properly JFK'd him before the next mid-term elections in '84
IMHO, Reagan was a two-bit cowboy actor who parlayed leadership in the screen actors guild into the presidency through sheer luck, good looks, and Hollywood money connections. Sleeze and Astrology and favors for the well-connected. Could not hold a candle to JFK.
And for many, Reagan was the beginning of the whirlwind we are reaping now. All just blowing in the wind.
the Reagan adminsitration derailed by about 20 years the whirlwind we are now experiencing.
He may just have prevented the NWO as its creators envisioned-but we won't know for about another 10 years or so
fukem.... fuk the republicant party power miedras...
" If your republican party flat out broke the nomination rules and picked a candidate their members didn't want ... what is the recourse?"
Ahhh, maybe pull a JFK on the 'heads' of the GOP?
Crazier things have happened!
"If your republican party flat out broke the nomination rules and picked a candidate their members didn't want ... what is the recourse?"
What do you mean 'IF'. They cheated Ron Paul hard in 2012. Straight up stole delegates from him and refused to let him get nominated from the floor (he had enough delegates to get nominated even with all their cheating). I believe there are books out there on all the ways the cheated and manipualted that 'election'.
Trump said "it's all how the repubilican party acts during this election" He means it, he will go rogue and they won't win shit.
Our political system may as well keep us entertained while it screws us.
Zacktly! We are effed-up anyway.
Now, are we? ;-)
Looney
The "Selection" has already been made for the next Criminal CEO for the Criminal Fradulent entity aka the UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. during the last Builderberg meetings.
Why own just one candidate when you can own them all?
I love the smell of Hope in the morning.
Your statement reminds me of the old saying "When rape is inevitable, lie back and enjoy it."
Why not? That last clown proved it's possible....
Precisely. I'm voting for Trump exactly because he's the biggest buffoon in the running.
His election would accelerate the burning down of Rome, which has to happen before it can be rebuilt. Trump 2016!
He does have solid experience presiding over corporate bankruptcies, which would come in handy for USCorp's.
It would certainly be popcorn-worthy to watch him do battle with the US' creditor predators.
"We can only hope".
Because that's all that's left.
IT"S THE SYSTEM, STUPID.
False heroes are the ruse of the statist system who spin false promises of hope to those without the power to effect change. We relinquished that power long ago. TThe sysyem has to be changed.
Trump's campaign slogan: Change we can believe in.
It worked once.
The perennial slogan. Works for both parties.
And people are too stupid to realize that we're always electing politicians to clean up after politicians. So, just maybe, POLITICIANS (and their owners) are the problem?
Stop voting...it only encourages them.
Can Trump win?
Did he purchase Diebold inc?
If I remember, the Republican'ts nominated wacko crazyass underfunded and unsupported John McCan't......
They will nominate the man that came from Barbara's Bush ;)
Yep. Just one more empty-headed chickenhawk war monger who operates at a 7th grade intellectual level; the hero of the GOP!
The country needs another Cunt-on with sexual predator husband or Bush as President as much as it needs a third term of the "I did a pretty good job" fudgepacker.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over then expecting a different result. The sheeple and idiots have been electing and reelecting and reelecting career politician miedras over and over and over and look where the country is - pushibng $20 trillion debt, gubmin overreach and in your face in everything and loss of prestige on the global stage... the gubmint treats U.S. tax paying citizens as criminals and decimating their finances with higher and higher taxes and fees and destroying the middle class with policies of tax and spend giveaway freebies to illegal aliens and nonproductive, non tax paying reprobates.
Maybe it's time to elect a non career politician US. born, U.S. citizen as a President. Sh*t yes I say, sh*t fukn yes...
I'm sure Trump will quickly and gladly show off his birth certificate...unlike some others.
If they keep showing that movie he made with Bo Derek ("Ghosts Can't Do It") he should be a shoo-in.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOOLTiZIt6c
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEYEGGx-k5U
I could not think of a more qualified person than Trump. Sure he had some luck but he didn't fall into that fortune and fame he has today. Trump is no chump and I think he would make an entertaining and effective president.
The real question is one posed by Hillary "what difference at this point does it make?".
If anyone has the brains and balls to do the things necessary to save this country its Trump. He's shown that in the business world better than any candidate in modern time I'd say.
Perot or Ron Paul the first time running may have been the last chance though, feels to me like the cards are dealt at this point.
"I could not think of a more qualified person than Trump. Sure he had some luck but he didn't fall into that fortune and fame he has today. Trump is no chump and I think he would make an entertaining and effective president"
You are right about 'The Donald' Never ending Rider, he is qualified if not by birth at least by accomplishments, the story of the fortune he didn't fall into, as I understand it, is, he inhierited $400 Million and he turned it into a fortune, lesser men would have been satisfied to play golf for the rest of their lives but not 'The Donald' he has the fire in his Soul that makes a man great, let him be a great man for all of us! Surely we need him now!
Let me tell you something, if Donald wins then get ready for the economy to collapse. Because they just said we don't care who's in charge it's going down anyway.
Look - I love the refreshing brash of Trump;The rebel verbiage of non-political correctness.....I love it...BUT...we've been through election cycles before - at least i have. Everyone gets juiced up for the same old shit - empty promises.
Remember the 'Republican' takeover of Congress last year? yea, they came through on how many promises?????? ZERO
Like I said - love that that the DONALD is talking, but let us not forget he actuallly gave money to Hillary in 2007 and supports an 'assault' weapons ban.
NOW has he changed??? is he a CONSTIUTIONALIST??? HMMMMMMMM.....if he played that role and broke the back of the corrupt GOP I'd (and milllions of conservatives) would join hands
Donald -what say you, Sir?
A year from now you won' hear about him
Its ludicrious to start electioneering this early,
He doesn't attend Bilderberg, so you are correct.
#1 reason to like him. Bilderberg is the biggest enemy of all citizens of the world without doubt.
END THE CARTELS
If he is a player nearer the end, he will attend Bilderberg.
What you think they will give him a choice?
It doesn't matter if Trump makes it to the ballot or not. The sheeple will be trained who to vote for and in the event the sheeple vote wrong there is always the Diebold solution.
Votes dont count, its who counts the votes that matters.
Unfortunately, no 'regular' person could win because they don't have the money. To get the money they would have to sell out to the monied powers and special interests. Also, even if they 'survived' on grass roots donations they would then get marginalized, excoriated and raped by the MSM. This is why the system needs to change. Otherwise it will be more of the same rigged game.
A ZHer made the best comment the other day.
Paraphrasing.... America: where you need to raise $50 million to get a job that pays $400,000.
Yeah - reflecting on that for a while puts things into perspective, doesn't it?
Pray tell; who will we be hearing about genius? Some status quo puppet retard who only appeals to a brain dead, conditioned, conormist populus? Like you?
He can win.
Not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing. I guess he might know what to do when our bubble blowing leverage machine blows up.
After all, he has made his $$ on leverage.
pods
The part of me that just likes mad shit happening wants Trump to win. The part of my brain that wins say that Trump winning would probably be a bad thing.
Bad compared to what (or who)?
Bad, as in just BAD. It doesn't need a comparison.
Worth a shot. We should be willing to try anything considering the current ass fucked no brain monkey pound show that passes for the US GOVT.
The man has emerged unscathed from bankruptcy countless times. Maybe he can shepherd the US thru it's bankruptcy.