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Could Trump Win?
Submitted by Patrick Buchanan via Buchanan.org,
The American political class has failed the country, and should be fired. That is the clearest message from the summer surge of Bernie Sanders and the remarkable rise of Donald Trump.
Sanders’ candidacy can trace it roots back to the 19th-century populist party of Mary Elizabeth Lease who declaimed:
“Wall Street owns the country. It is no longer a government of the people, by the people, and for the people, but a government of Wall Street, by Wall Street, and for Wall Street. The great common people of this country are slaves, and monopoly is the master.”
“Raise less corn and more hell!” Mary admonished the farmers of Kansas.
William Jennings Bryan captured the Democratic nomination in 1896 by denouncing the gold standard beloved of the hard money men of his day: “You shall not press down upon the brow of labor this crown of thorns, you shall not crucify mankind upon a cross of gold.”
Sanders is in that tradition, if not in that league as an orator. His followers, largely white, $50,000-a-year folks with college degrees, call to mind more the followers of George McGovern than Jennings Bryan.
Yet the stagnation of workers’ wages as the billionaire boys club admits new members, and the hemorrhaging of U.S. jobs under trade deals done for the Davos-Doha crowd, has created a blazing issue of economic inequality that propels the Sanders campaign.
Between his issues and Trump’s there is overlap. Both denounce the trade deals that deindustrialized America and shipped millions of jobs off to Mexico, Asia and China. But Trump has connected to an even more powerful current.
That is the issue of uncontrolled and illegal immigration, the sense America’s borders are undefended, that untold millions of lawbreakers are in our country, and more are coming. While most come to work, they are taking American jobs and consuming tax dollars, and too many come to rob, rape, murder and make a living selling drugs.
Moreover, the politicians who have talked about this for decades are a pack of phonies who have done little to secure the border.
Trump boasts that he will get the job done, as he gets done all other jobs he has undertaken. And his poll ratings are one measure of how far out of touch the Republican establishment is with the Republican heartland.
When Trump ridicules his rivals as Lilliputians and mocks the celebrity media, the Republican base cheers and laughs with him.
He is boastful, brash, defiant, unapologetic, loves campaigning, and is putting on a great show with his Trump planes and 100-foot-long stretch limos. “Every man a king but no man wears a crown,” said Huey Long. “I’m gonna make America great again,” says Donald.
Compared to Trump, all the other candidates, including Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush, are boring. He makes politics entertaining, fun.
Trump also benefits from the perception that his rivals and the press want him out of the race and are desperately seizing upon any gaffe to drive him out. The piling on, the abandonment of Trump by the corporate elite, may have cost him a lot of money. But it also brought him support he would not otherwise have had.
For no group of Americans has been called more names than the base of the GOP. The attacks that caused the establishment to wash its hands of Trump as an embarrassment brought the base to his defense.
But can Trump win?
If his poll numbers hold, Trump will be there six months from now when the Sweet 16 is cut to the Final Four, and he will likely be in the finals. For if Trump is running at 18 or 20 percent nationally then, among Republicans, it is hard to see how two rivals beat him.
For Trump not to be in the hunt as the New Hampshire primary opens, his campaign will have to implode, as Gary Hart’s did in 1987, and Bill Clinton’s almost did in 1992.
Thus, in the next six months, Trump will have to commit some truly egregious blunder that costs him his present following. Or the dirt divers of the media and “oppo research” arms of the other campaigns will have to come up with some high-yield IEDs.
Presidential primaries are minefields for the incautious, and Trump is not a cautious man. And it is difficult to see how, in a two-man race against the favorite of the Republican establishment, he could win enough primaries, caucuses and delegates to capture 50 percent of the convention votes.
For almost all of the candidates who will have dropped out by then will have endorsed the last man standing against Trump. And should Trump be nominated, his candidacy would make Barry Goldwater look like the great uniter of the GOP.
Still, who expected Donald Trump to be in the catbird seat in the GOP nomination run before the first presidential debate? And even his TV antagonists cannot deny he has been great for ratings.
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Only one thing is certain: you will be disappointed
Why don't we ask can Bernie Sanders win? He is utterly offensive to everyone who doesn't drive a Nissian Leaf or Tesla.
...but, Bernie will institute economy-finishing regulations that will reduce temparatures an estimated 1/100th of a degree which will save us all from Climate Change!
Because he is the next natural choice for the fools who voted for Obummer twice.
Please - how is Sanders, as President [not king, and not your drinking buddy] worse than Trump or Hillary or the rest.
In terms of not getting US soldiers and marines and lots of innocent people killed - there's really no question Sanders is best, and I admit, that's my number one issue.
Amazing how the Left/Right bullshit and the word "socialist" just gets people to stop thinking at all.
I was watching stuff on youtube the other day about liberals attacking libertarians [straw men stuff as usual - penn jillette v bill nye and related vids] and was irritated but for fuck's sake.... I think you have to be kind of an asshole to think Hillary or Trump are better for the country.
I'm willing to be convinced otherwise, but I can not see any argument where, as president, dealing with the fucktards in congress, Sanders isnt the least worst option.
"Please - how is Sanders, as President [not king, and not your drinking buddy] worse than Trump or Hillary or the rest."?
That's a fair question. They're all canditates who bring out the HOPE in me.
Hope.......It's so tangible you can almost grasp it.
Really?
that's all you got?
go back to watching Fox and your lazy red team blue team binary you fuckin' mook.
Methinks you missed out on the sarc recognition gene. Sorry 'bout that.
What would Andrew Marr think?
What would diebold(aka Premier Election Solutions) do?
Whatever Satan's little helper Soros wants it to.
http://investmentwatchblog.com/this-is-outrageous-george-soros-owns-company-that-will-count-americas-votes-in-november/
And I agree unfortunately.
Euthanize Soros
Depends - when is his photo op at the wailing wall?
Trump may have said something quasi-refreshing re the toll of unfettered illegal immigration [if crassly and imprecisely]
But that doesn't mean he gives a fuck about you, or individual liberty, or the country as a whole.
He is another narcissist and his greed and love of power will marry him to the same warmongering cunts who own every candidate except... like or loathe him... Sanders.
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Israel Sees Nazism in Mirror it Mistakes for Window
http://www.globalresearch.ca/israel-sees-nazism-in-mirror-it-mistakes-fo...
Hard to argue with that. However, which other candidate is more likely to help out the middle class? Every other candidate (except perhaps Sanders) is already beholden to our delightful oligarchs.
Oh, I'm definitely for Hill-erie.
She's for the 'Everyday person.'
She even said so.
she's worse, I'll grant ye that.
I know it's not popular here, but I'm a Sanders man as the least awful, his silly statism aside.
I don't know much about Sanders but I believe he has claimed to be in favor of breaking up TBTF banks.
Therefore:- "IT"S THE SYSTEM, SYUPID!"
You made some insightful observations above but fall back on that old saw; He's the lesser of two evils so I am compelled to go with him.
HOPE!
Abandon ship.
I side with you on that.
I am a cynic. Trump is clearly a ringer for Clitnon. It is not more complicated than that.
It is even simpler: this is 100% theater. I chuckle whenever I see otherwise intelligent folks discuss Trump seriously like as if they genuinely had a choice at the ballot box. Discussing Trump is as enlightening as asking the question: "What if Monica Lewinsky's dress was red instead of blue? How would that change the course of history?" Sorry but President Trump can not possibly be any more powerful than a dried cum-stain on a dress --- that is saying a lot, in my opinion. He has to know it too.
Trump is not an idiot. He knows the President has no power.
<<Could Trump Win?>>
Sure, he can win because ANYBODY could win --- you just need to either be a good actor or a succesful dirty rotten asshole with lots of leads on vested interests.
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If you are a Trump fan for any reason other than the laughs, then I laugh in your face.
Do yourself a favor: pay attention to the issues/targets your hero avoids.
She has the women's studies and cankles votes.
There is that;)
She definitely has the malcontent-female-who's-always-been-penis-repellant vote.
I honestly look forward to a Sanders vs. Trump choice. I would seriously have to think deeply about that one...
.....which horseman are we up to now??? ....... I'm sure there are more than 4 or 7 or 13 or ...... where was I ....... oh yeah
Trump is a stalking horse, a distraction.
I think he would make a bad president but possibly not as bad as the others.
A distraction from what, exactly?
The FED and Wall Street Banksters plundering the country and stealing all the money?
Oh, that.
The only damn way I'd vote for him is if he named Ron Paul his VP after promising to wrestle two starving polar bears on inauguration night.
HEY! we are doing just fine, Thank You....
Prefer bacon and arctic char shasimi myself. Politicians taste awful.
I figure they'd taste like a turd that had been rolled in money. Not that I know what that tastes like, pure conjecture on my part.
One day daddy shark was out swimming with his son showing him how to hunt. Daddy pointed out a politician swimming in deep water and said "son, watch me and learn how to do this this". Daddy shark proceed to go to the swimmer and then circled him 5 times with his dorsal fin above water. Ater a few minutes, he ate the politician and swam back to his son. His son inquired, "daddy, why did you circle him 5 times and wait a few minutes"? Daddy shark replied, "they taste a lot better that way".
Kinda like the politician and his son who were standing on a hill looking down on their constituents. The son said, "Dad let's run down the hill and screw one of them
citizens!" His dad (a career politician) looked at him and said, "No son, let's walk down there and screw'em all."
Would you vote for someone else? Who?
I'd vote for Rand Paul, although his old man would be better. I'd vote for Trump's hair piece as long as he didn't come with it.
Why?
Why? : 1) Rand Paul
or
2) Donnie's Rug
I'm thinking we will be suprised for sure.
He's here to say what people want to hear, and draw interest away from Rand Paul, etc.
He'll drop out by the convention.
It's all about Hillary.
This issue - is really a sad commentary about American voters.
If Trump is elected, America will see WAR. And probably a whole lot of it. So if you are satisfied with the idea of risking your life to defend the "honor" of Donald Trump ... then yes, vote for him.
War is coming regardless of whatever puppet achieves the throne. Even a self-propelled one like The Donald.
You sure about that? We've been neck deep in war with all of the entrenched powers lately. My guess si that there would be less war with Trump in charge.
wait.
the GOP dirty tricks team is puttting their shit boots on,
witness Sen. Cruz. Trump bout to get Thumped
Start a third party- Democraplican.
Not a chance. Sadly, it will be Hillary.
Could he win?
Sure, Obozo won...Twice and he is a complete joke..Just a very bad one. Voters are morons.
However he would have to run as a 3rd party candidate.
The current 0ne party system we are ruled under (that calls itself a two party system) won't let Trump in.
Folks will get all excited only to be severd a another shit sandwhich. You'll get a choice between the Cackling Cunt, and the Douch Jeb.
I invite you to reconsider the consistency of your post.
"Sure, Obozo won...Twice and he is a complete joke..Just a very bad one. Voters are morons."
"The current 0ne party system we are ruled under (that calls itself a two party system) won't let Trump in."
Which is it? Dumb voters? Or a one party system we are ruled under that calls itself a two party system and won't let some folks in to be voted on in the first place?
I don't blame the voters (at least not at the national level) for a milisecond. They are not wealthy enough to put forward candidates, never mind win.
Well, I was talking with Biff at the Club and he was indignant that the Donald is even running. "isn't he Italian"? Biff quizzed. "What has this country come to and my beloved Republican Party?"
"In my day, Italians, Irish and those awful other people just didn't apply for jobs that required someone of WASP background".
And that's why Jeb will get the nomination
If you go back far enough Trump is a German name.
Biff must be fucking ancient, he was voting age well before Kennedy then.
Who better to preside over the bankruptcy re-organization of America?
Then all these morons in alphabet.gov can be fired and pensions slashed!
He definitely has the experience. Let me qualify that; experience with bankruptcy that is.
The country's going to need solid experience with bankruptcy--real soon.
True Dat!
We have been experiencing bankruptcy since at least 1971.
On the other hand, can you go bankrupt if you have a printer, the treasury, and the fed buying treasuries, in the grandest check kiting scheme ever known to woman or man?
The right people aren't going to be elected. They never are. Trump might be the next best thing though. He reminds me of a rich version of Ventura. Perhaps that is what we need. Trump + Ventura. Two people who clearly hate the establishment politicians and are willing to tell them where they can get off. Seriously, if we're going down the toilet, we may as well do it with a smile on our faces.
The issue, to me, isn't whether Trump (or any of the 'good' guys, like maybe Rand) could pull us out of the event horizon. I believe it's too late for anyone to fix our problems, other than to say that maybe they could make responsible, difficult (and not populist) decisions about how we deal with our issues. So basically the question is, who do we want to be in charge of the US bankruptsy? Trump or Trump + Ventura might make the ride all that much more enjoyable as we short the market and have our gold, silver, and bitcoin stashed.
Even if Donald Trump doesn't get elected, at the very least his brash personality and the fact that he answers to no one, will have shaken the entrenched and completely lame republican leadership to its core, and will have woken up a few million americans from their MSM and reality tv induced comas, to the scams the establishment is perpetrating upon them. I for one, wish him the best of luck.
Problem is....he won't change a thing about Shrillary.
Aren't you guys getting tired of Trump attacking our past and present public servants such as Jeb Bush, Hillary Clinton, Rick Perry, John McCain, Lindsay Graham, and others? Me neither.
As well as anyone who gets to 'interview' him. He says all of the shit that Dr. Paul only dreamed about 4 years ago.
The Zio media will shoot Trump down because he doesn't suck their noodle like the rest of the ZWO puppet stooges.
Hillary Clinton represents the worst humanity has to offer.
and Jeb Bush is still retarded.
goddammit - fun facts, you ignorant slut
http://2012.presidential-candidates.org/Trump/Israel.php
Trump position on Israel
• Donald Trump maintains that Israel is our best friend.
• He thinks we should do everything we can to protect Israel
• He believes that Israel should be the cornerstone of our policy in the region.
• They’ve always been there for us and we should be there for them. They are the only stable democracy in a region that is not run by dictators. They are pioneers in medicine and communication and a close fair trading partner.
he is another Whore of Babylon - he would sell out the United States for Jewish/Zionist/Scoffield Useful Idiot $.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/spyring.php
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/spy.html
https://www.corbettreport.com/a-brief-history-of-israeli-spying-in-the-us/
http://theantimedia.org/israel-spying-on-america/
I'm pretty sure his views on China and Russia are predictably neocon and stupid, as well.
He has said he respects Putin and that the US shouldn't be meddling in Ukraine because it is a matter for Germany and Europe if they think it relevant. Hardly "neocon".
I know he expressed "worry" Russia would save Greece
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/donald-trump-worried-putin-will-sa...
and said some quite neocon, or at least right wing gop stuff re crimea and obama
Donald Trump slammed President Obama Thursday on TODAY for failing to take a stronger line against President Vladimir Putin in dealing with Ukraine, saying he feared Obama would now make up for lost time with imprudent moves to “show his manhood.”
http://www.today.com/news/donald-trump-putin-has-eaten-obamas-lunch-ukra...
Mr. Trump claimed last month that he had devised a “foolproof way” to defeat the Islamic State “very quickly.” But he refused to divulge it, saying he did not “want the enemy to know what I’m doing.” He calls President Obama “one of the worst things that’s ever happened to Israel,” and blames him for deteriorating U.S.-Israeli relations. He says Russian-backed separatists are acting aggressively in Ukraine because the United States is “not a respected country and we don’t have respected leadership at this moment” – but says America’s European allies should confront Russia.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/17/us/politics/donald-trump-on-the-issues...
Neocon Lite?
“I think Snowden is a terrible threat, I think he’s a terrible traitor, and you know what we used to do in the good old days when we were a strong country — you know what we used to do to traitors, right?” Trump said
Die in a fire, Donnie.
That is just it, Trump is all over the map. He once gave huge dollars to Hillary.
He is like the guy in school "I'm here for the beer"
Good grief! He's a businessman operating in Democrat controlled territory. You want to do business there you payoff the capo. Doesn't mean you like doing it or like them. It is just the price of doing business in such cities.
If you don't realise that you've wandered into the wrong site.
yeah, and not too solid on 2nd amendment - probably not the 1st amendment except for him. but his chutzpah is appealing........at least for the time being.
I really don't know where he stands on most issues, and he probably doesn't, either. It's doubtful that he has spent a lot of time forming geopolitical positions, so most of what he 'believes' is likely superficial. I could easily imagine Israel becoming less of a BFF if Nutty Yahoo gave him a bunch of crap. It will be interesting to watch as he fleshes out his positions on a range of issues. When it comes to trade, we already know he is not in favor of the current TPP that's on the table, and to me that is a good thing. I'm just not sure about war & the MIC. Let's face it. If you were a businessman charged with fixing America, would we be spending more than all our so-called enemies combined on exotic weapons and far flung bases around the world? Or, would you look around and realize we could put millions of people back to work upgrading and repairing our infrastructure? For sure, it's a much better show with Trump in the game.
Can he win the Republican nomination? Not if they can stop him, and they are going to throw everything they can at him.
Will he run as an Independent if he gets pissed with the party establishment? Could he win as an Independent? Conventional wisdom says he could not, simply because no one ever has. However, looking back at Ross Perot in 1992, the last Independent who polled a significant % of the vote, and digging into the exit poll numbers shows it is very possible. Consider this:
Perot won roughly 19% of the popular vote. He pulled equally from both registered Dems and Repubs (it is fiction that he threw the race to Clinton. Daddy Bush lost all by himself).....HOWEVER, exit polls revealed that 34% of the voters said they would have voted for Perot IF they thought he could win. Put 19% together with 34%, and we have a new President Perot. Donald Trump is much better known, more popular, and probably richer than Perot. For sure, he is a better campaigner. If Trump does not implode, and chooses to run as an Independent, there is a very strong chance he could win a 3-way between Bush & Clinton. Very strong. So, when you hear someone automatically dismiss Trump or the possibility of an Independent winning, they either don't know what they are talking about, or they have an agenda, or both.
<< would you look around and realize we could put millions of people back to work upgrading and repairing our infrastructure? >>
The trillions Bush/Barry/Paulson/Geitner/Bernanke handed to Bankers could have been used to achive the above.
It wasn't.
... and that's why everyone needs to give an outsider like Trump a serious look. Otherwise, nothing wil change. Both Hillary and Bush will continue with basically the same policies as the previous two potuses, or worse.
Fuck Israel and anyone who supports them.
Maybe; but I bet he won't drop to his knees as quickly as Bush or SHitlary...He will think which Jeb and the phoney really aren't capable of doing.....
It won't make any difference if Trump wins or not. The American people are set to lose either way.
Is the White House big enough for his ego?
Cunton's fit
The big question: Running Mate.
The GOP might be faced with trying to broker a Bush/Trump ticket -just to keep the Party from tearing itself in half.
GOD I would love to hear what Pataki and Sessions think about this...
...WAIT A MINUTE.
Now that I've said his name: Pataki is a deeeeeeply underappreciated operative with astounding knowledge of the Republican field: he knows the name of everyone and anyone involved in NY. If someone is running for fucking dog-catcher in NY State Pataki knows their kids names and grade-point averages last semester in grade school. He also has deep feelers extending well outside NY and works closely with Sessions...
Obviously Pataki and Trump know each other.
Pataki might not like Trump; but, ...IF it's pair with Trump or go home...
Pataki might be a strong enough pairing for selling Trump to the base at the Convention. Jeb can be brought into the fold with a promise of appointment at the Cabinet/Secretarial level...
I almost can't believe I hadn't thought of this sooner...
Ok. You heard it here first: eyes on former NY Governor Pataki as a possible running mate w/ Trump if the polls favor Trump.
Personally, not that I'm favorable to either major Party and I'm talking political inside ball here more than anything else: much of what is going to transpire is going to be hashed out behind closed doors in small wood paneled rooms...
I'm distrustful of Trump.
...& IF I was confronted with an either/or between another Bush and Pataki I would take Pataki in a heartbeat.
Good news everyone, POTUS selection has been rendered moot!
http://phys.org/news/2015-07-washington-dc-fast-adding-threat.html
Our long national nightmare is over. The only thing that can save it is a mile thick layer of ice over Manhattan.
"...adding urgency to the models of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change that project roughly one to three or more feet of global sea-level rise by 2100 from global warming."
Pffffffft. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7whL9jvdL5s
How The Donald is Trumping US ‘Fake-ocracy’
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2015/07/92281-how-the-donald-is-trumping-us-fak...
"The three-times-married Trump, who is of Scottish and German descent, started his real estate career around the same time that McCain was learning how to use chopsticks in his Vietnamese prison camp. Trump somehow managed to skip the military draft back then due to a foot injury, although when asked recently which foot, he said he couldn’t remember."
Cute.
My perspective is this. The American (educated) electorate is and has been totally sick and tired of what's going on in and isn't being done in our political system today. Everyone knows that politicians are paid liars and totally beholden to corporations and lobbyists. For me Trump is literally a breath of fresh air. Will he get the nomination? I don't have a clue. In the mean time - I'm positive that Trump's ratings will only grow. He will force any competitor - Republican or Democrat to speak up and speak the truth. That's awesome in itself. He's egotistical - that's his nature. Obama is a sociopath narcissist. I really admire that he's paying his own way (which is really pissing off a lot of politicians/lobbyists) and he's a straight shooter - unlike every other damn politician of either side. And the absolute bottom line for me is that I firmly believe that he does have the best interests of the United States of America at heart. He believes in the greatness and exceptionalism of the U.S. - totally unlike our current president.
True...he may change what and how the pols talk when they are trying to get elected. Problem is, once in office they will do the same schmidt as before.
Seems to me that Donald Trump is like the idiomatic monkey wrench. If the machine of government were in proper operating condition, there would be little need for him. But many people are fed up and out of patience with a government that is broken, possibly beyond repair. When it becomes obvious that the established procedure is not going to fix things, a lot of people might like to grab a big monkey wrench and apply some emotionally satisfying "percussive maintenance" to the problem.
El Donaldo's web site
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/
at last inspection, does not even have a "positions" section.
Maybe that's why he will win?
Or else it's a sign that he's not really serious.
Kudos to Buchanan for pointing out the Bernie/Donaldo similarity. If Buchanan didn't have that kink in his brain that turns him into a ranting racist and anti-semite every full moon, he could have been president himself, he's about the only one who remembers what a good populist position is supposed to look like.
Buchannan is solid in that his positions don't flap in the fucking wind.
He means what he says and is consistent in his views and statements.
He is not in the least ashamed to put Americans first, confront the machinations of the MIC, or trash the zio-minority neo-prog game and dual citizenism bullshit where ever it manifests itself.
I'd take Buchannan over Bush or Clinton any day and every day.
IF Paul hadn't bowed to the AIPAC/Jewish Lobby, Paul/Buchannan might have had promise...
A real rational 'Americans first' anti-globo-corporatist anti-status quo ticket that might appeal to the grassroots Republican base be found in Buchannan/Stockman.
The Globalsists, neo-Keyesians, and neo-Socialist progressives would be stunned.
It isn't about Trump or Sanders winning, it's about one of the Toxic Twins (Dem/Repub) NOT winning. For once.
THAT is the message I hope is sent. That is ISN'T a "TINA" situation. There most certainly ARE alternatives. Many of them. And we could decide to try some of them if the current situation isn't corrected.
Dig Sanders - the Socialist with 2 separate >$500k residences.* No that's not hypocritical at all ...
Make ya a promise Bernie baby, you sell those two cribs** and sign a rental lease in a WashDC section 8 apartment and I'll vote you for President.
* - As per a recnt ZH thread
** - And donate the proceeds to a homeless shelter of your choice
Reason articles on Sanders:
http://reason.com/topics/bernie-sanders
Are Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders Tapping into Rage Against the Machine?
Hey ho, hey ho, the status quo has got to go - especially if you're a Mexican or really rich.
http://reason.com/blog/2015/07/20/are-donald-trump-and-bernie-sanders-tapp
2 >$500k residences with mortgages is not much to show for someone 60+. Tells me he's not a money digger and can't be bought in the twilight of his career.
One of the parties needs to be completely destroyed so that the other will follow suit. They can't exist without each other. That's why the best scenario is for Hillary Clinton to win. It will put the whole charade on display and it will finally be open season on these retards.
If a Republican wins (on schedule after a two term Democrat), it will be dirty business as usual until something really does blow up. You can guarantee a massive war push if one of the Neo Cons' annointed gets into the Oval Office.
>>>If a Republican wins.... You can guarantee a massive war push if one of the Neo Cons' annointed gets into the Oval Office.
Ven-ez-oo-way-la is looking ripe for some freedom-fightin' these days.
Hey!!! They've got oil, too! Boo-yah!
Bernie Sanders is part of the failed political class. What, he is just now noticing the malfeasance orgy? And Trump is a greedy asshole who lives lavishly as he drains his enterprises of worth until they fail. Others are left holding the bag as he moves on to his next scam.
Vote Libertarian or Green or for Rand Paul.
No - fuck Rand Paul.
There is not ONE goddam candidate that is qualified , They are all fucking imbeciles and trash.
I not expecting this system to be functioning by the end of this year. Something's Gotta Give.
I have yet to hear Trump unleash the bombast on the Fed.
Unless and until that happens, it's hard for me to believe he's for real.
not super familiar with Sanders, but I think he and Trump appeal to people because they have the balls to say what they are thinking unlike the sissy boy republicans and zero deviation from party line democrats.
What difference does it make?
The Neoliberal Ideal Will Unite the Human Race?
Trump is fluffing up the American electorate to a frenzied trance state much like a rave. The hysteria is instrumental in so far as it is necessary to drive the masses of serfs towards the inane logic and philosophy of the Republican Party. Without Trump's fluffing of the ignorant masses Jeb Bush, and the Corporatists, would NOT be able to sell America on another Bush as President due to their penchant to push totalitarianism via tax breaks for Corporatists, and Martial Law & Police State Hegemony. Trump is the Republican Party proxy that will usher the despised Bush clan back into the Whore House for another round of American Hegemony.
Trump will get more plumbs from the US Government when Bush is elected to further assault, and abuse, the World with the kind of sadism that only emanates out of the diseased mind of a Bush family member.
Up yours, ignorant masses.
Bernie Sanders is part of the political class.
Sanders is the only admitted socialist among democrats but was only the 4th most socialist by voting record. Obama, Bidenbd Ted kennedy were more socialist than the admited socialist of the political class. I hope Trump wins coz the alternative is really 4 more years of Obama.
Trump is going to be forced to run as a 3 PC.
He will split the conservative vote.
And Hildabeast wins.
I don't like it, but it's already been approved.
Trump, like Romney did, will do what he's told.
The Jesuits from St. Pats will nicely threaten him.
Cruz / Fiorina. Hillary goes to jail.
YOu are on acid. NONE of those motherfucking cunts are worth a shit. Killary needs to be ''offed''
Cruz smokes pole all day for the the AIPAC/LA Raza factions and Fiorina has fucked up everything corporate or public she has ever touched.
How about we forget about these globo-corporatist scumbags Cruz and Fiorina and just do the right thing by putting Clinton in prison for the next 30 years.
Trump purchased his first million $$$$ property when he was 8 years old, his first cessna at 12 and his first syrup of figs ( wig ) at 15.
He's a professional Game Show Host FFS.
That said if he could get his Foreign Policy in ORDER then he's 10 fold better than Hildebeast.
---> (S)elections are more rigged than the stawk murkets
---> Stawk murkets are more rigged than (S)elections
Personally, I'd say both are evenly rigged as they are all controlled by the same assholes...
No. He cant' win. The republican establishment won't allow it, just like they wouldn't allow Paul.
If he remotely looked like he would win, they'd do something to kill his chances. If he looked like he'd win as a third party, they'd do something to kill him.
My theory (and reading the messages here, I'm not alone) is that he's in the race specifically to throw the election to Hillary. If he runs 3rd party, we'll know for sure that's what has been done.
Yep, when the GOP adulterated the primary rules in favor of the RINO's it made it nearly impossible for a non-RINO to win short of going third party.
So who cares if it's Hillary over Bush? One faction of the Illuminati elites controls the democrrats and another the Republicans. It's a game to them -a sporting event- a gentleman's bet -both parties are controlled by the same masters. So if the Dem factions outmaneuvers the Rep faction by getting trump third party, the Rep faction can get Bernie to run to counter this. It's all a game to them - they control the elections as they own all "serious" candidates. Those candidates who really represent the people are good for no more than 5% of the vote. We are a nation of sheeple - people who graze in the beautiful green fields continue to do as they are told to avoid the fictitious "wolves" outside the protection of the Shepard -who will eventually lead them over the cliff or to be sheered and murdered at the appropriate time in the future. Sheep do as they are told -as do sheeple.
Thats it exactly. Even if they force someone like Trump (real candidate or not) to go third party they wouldn't care. As long as one of their bought out minions wins they win. That's the beauty of a coin toss that has heads on both sides.
yes, he could win.
ABH PLIBY- Anyone But Hillarrhoid! Please LORD... I'm Begging YOU!
Remember, remember!
Pol-lard in November,
The Zionist treason and plot;
I know of no reason
Why the Zionist treason
Should ever be forgot!
“I will make sure that you and I meet one day while we’re in the courthouse. And I will take you for every penny you still don’t have. And I will come after your Daily Beast and everybody else that you possibly know,” Cohen told the website. “So I’m warning you, tread very fucking lightly, because what I’m going to do to you is going to be fucking disgusting. You understand me?”
More Kabuki theatre. Yawn.
Does he know anything about bankruptsy?
Why not? We've got an assclown for president now and asshats for representatives. This country is a joke
As if it matters who is elected president. Another circus to entertain the masses. The politicians have managed to divide us into groups and put us at war with each other. The rich against the poor, the blacks against the whites, the republications against the demogogues, the religious against the secular. Little teams of "people like me" with our matching hats and our rhetoric. Geez I'm sick of this shit.
That is entirely the wrong question.
The question that needs to be asked is: Who in America can walk into Washington and stand up to (actually eliminate) the 50,000 lobbyists and paid political hacks whose lifeblood depends on maintaining the status quo?
The incredibly naive college students that voted Obama in thought he was the one but they were deceiving themselves. He was no match for the machine.
The correct answer is:
No one
The American political machine is exactly that. A machine that has been built piece by piece for over 200 years. Americans are in deep denial and until they snap out of it and flush all the corruption out of Washington, nothing will change
Statist, oligopolist, elitist, Wall Street, war-mongering, fascist, zionist, liberty-hating ass hat.
Jesus fucking Christ. Its 15 months to the election. This is insane,/ all these fucking bastards are all worthless including Trump, Killary, Sanders, Cruz and the rest of the asskissing Zionist retards.
Fuck Israel Fuck them one million times.
They will be the death of America.
This is our Kabuki Theatre, which helps us focus on something else for a while. Our two party system is grand. TPTB have a red puppet on one hand and a blue muppet on the
other, one to bash you in the face whilst the other picks your pocket. Luckily, we get to pick which does which, " Freedumb baby!, yeah!" <--- done with Austin Powers' accent.
Jesus fucking Christ. Its 15 months to the election. This is insane,/ all these fucking bastards are all worthless including Trump, Killary, Sanders, Cruz and the rest of the asskissing Zionist retards.
Fuck Israel Fuck them one million times.
They will be the death of America.
How did you get so many down arrows on this post? -you are spot on -including your inclusioin of Cruz.
Is [S]Trump[et] a ringer?
Me thinks so!
The "fix" is already in per Stuart Webb's article:
Jim Messina, political adviser of newly elected prime minister David Cameron, former campaign manager and staffer to President Barack Obama, will be attending the 2015 Bilderberg meeting in Telfs-Buchen, Austria June 11-14. The reason this is news worthy is that Messina will be a key factor in Hillary Clinton’s campaign for the White House in 2016.
It'll be Hitlery-Hellary and Jeb, the next sprout of Prescott/GHW/GW pernicious weed Carlyle crime syndicate.
do ZH"ers really think the empire is gonna let this guy take the oath? please.
Obama took the oath, and no one knew one damned thing about him.
He's got balls, he's got money, and he knows how to connect with the pissed off masses (sans teleprompter) .. you better fucking believe he can win.
He supports the ZioNazis of Israel so he is a son of a bitch.
How fucking old are you?
You know the Zios will never allow anyone that they don't approve in office.
I have been watching their M.O. for decades.
Remember that THEY control AlL media in the USA.
Wake the fuck up and pay attention.
Weren't you banned a few months ago, CuntBoy2015? And why do you give a shit about American politics? Go back to building dikes.
How fucking old are you?
You know the Zios will never allow anyone that they don't approve in office.
I have been watching their M.O. for decades.
Remember that THEY control AlL media in the USA.
Wake the fuck up and pay attention.
The Zio Banksters likely control Trump. Don't Flatter him by suggesting he is an independant who is pro-Americans. Trump and bernie sanders are likely "controlled opposition" -just like my idiot senator Ted Cruz.
He's on Hillary's payroll
And Hillary's on Satan's payroll.
RE Could Trump Win?
Yes - if he plays his cards right...
Honestly, if I thought we could get a President that could secure our Border, I wouldn't care about much else they did. They could cut themselves a $100 billion dollar check for all I care. We probably spend that every few weeks taking care of the 3rd World.
Here is a fact for you The USA is NOT the Number one in Foreign Aid.
Where do you get these bullshit ideas from?
USA is the number one purveyour of state sponsored terrorism and suppliers of weapons, NOT HUMANTARIAN AID.
You're a special kind of retard. I just looked it up. the US is the #1 country when it comes to foreign aid, in absolute terms anyway. UK is second.
Fired? Why so lenient?
Biden v Walker 2016
2 more complete MORONS
That's who it is gonna be for the big dance
NEW CALIFORNIA: MASS IMMIGRATION TURNING VIRGINIA BLUE….Work harder america, the third world is expecting that welfare check
..."In the span of one generation, Fairfax County has seen an explosion in its immigrant population. In 1970, more than 93 percent of Fairfax County’s population was white and middle-class. In the fall of 1970, a white 6-year-old child beginning elementary school in one of the county’s developing towns… could look to his left, or look to his right, and see a classroom full of children who, at least 90 percent of the time, looked like him and who spoke English. By 2010, a child entering elementary school in Fairfax County would almost certainly encounter a classmate who did not speak English as a primary language, and whose parents or grandparents immigrated from places such as Vietnam, India, Korea or a country in Africa."...
http://investmentwatchblog.com/new-california-mass-immigration-turning-v...
You know... I may be the only handsome, big-dicked fellow here deliberating between Sanders and Trump, eh?
I'm all for legal immigration to be adjusted up or down as the economy and national climate allows - but see no logical reason to accept the false premise that not wanting to become a minority in my own homeland makes me "racist."
I think most immigrants, certainly their kids, are good, decent, hard-working.
But how much is enough in 2015?
Why cant these countries get their shit together as our own goes down the tubes?
http://patriotrising.com/2015/07/28/immigration-surge-continues-30000-ex...
Luv the immigrants. They so love their fellow American. Oh yeah, that is right, even if they do get permanent residency or citizenship eventuallly, this group NEVER ASSIMILATES. While groups before them were forced to learn English, we coddle this group by having signs and documents produced in both languages. In public schools, the kids have their studies taught to them en Espanol. Even at the grocery store in the US - have you read most labels lately? You'd be hard pressed to find English before Spanish on many American brands.
Funny thing is, we from Dade County, FL warned the rest of you back in the 1970's and early 80's AND NO ONE LISTENED. Buena Suerte now, suckers!
well expectations changed over time as government grew and grew.
If the deal was - if you can find a job and house, you can stay... I wouldn't really care. It's not really a race thing [though isn't it normal and healthy and sensible to not want to go from being th emajority to a minority ruled by a tiny hostile elite? PC brainwashing aside, there's no really coherent argument by which it is immoral to not want to be replaced and weakened, and one need not be all Nietzche about it either]...
anyway, what we have now is - all sorts of free benefits,
"rights" groups who are really "Free Shit for Us" groups, Press 1 for English etc etc.
The fucking Left should have to host all of these precious immigrants in their own home.
Separately - The Obama plan to build low income housing in affluent suburbs is yet another Fed over reach but I'm not at all opposed to the rich WASPs and JEWs who have brainwashed the country with the idea it is "racist "to oppose open borders" and who love to malign the "selfish" libertarians and "racist" right wing having to live near gangs from El Salvador and "urban" youths.
See how they like it - see how mugged by reality they can be...
forget Trump - I nominate TYLER !!!!
It is a 15 months until the election. Unfortunately, those that look strongest at the beginning of the race usual never make it to the White House. That being said, Trump has already had some Howard Dean moments and came out unscathed, so maybe, just maybe this time it is different (we can only hope!).
Hair Farce One has landed.
+100 that there's some funny shit alright. he he
No way. Not a chance. He's the Ross Perot of 2016. He's there to win the presidency for Hillary. Trump and the Clintons are very old friends.