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Ron Paul Slams Gen. Wesley Clark: Is He Kidding, Internment Camps?
Submitted by Ron Paul via The Ron Paul Institue for Peace & Prosperity,
Last week, Retired General Wesley Clark, who was NATO commander during the US bombing of Serbia, proposed that “disloyal Americans” be sent to internment camps for the “duration of the conflict.” Discussing the recent military base shootings in Chattanooga, TN, in which five US service members were killed, Clark recalled the internment of American citizens during World War II who were merely suspected of having Nazi sympathies. He said: “back then we didn’t say ‘that was freedom of speech,’ we put him in a camp.”
He called for the government to identify people most likely to be radicalized so we can “cut this off at the beginning.” That sounds like “pre-crime”!
Gen. Clark ran for president in 2004 and it’s probably a good thing he didn’t win considering what seems to be his disregard for the Constitution. Unfortunately in the current presidential race Donald Trump even one-upped Clark, stating recently that NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden is a traitor and should be treated like one, implying that the government should kill him.
These statements and others like them most likely reflect the frustration felt in Washington over a 15 year war on terror where there has been no victory and where we actually seem worse off than when we started. The real problem is they will argue and bicker over changing tactics but their interventionist strategy remains the same.
Retired Army Gen. Mike Flynn, who was head of the Defense Intelligence Agency during the US wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, told al-Jazeera this week that US drones create more terrorists than they kill. He said: “The more weapons we give, the more bombs we drop, that just … fuels the conflict.”
Still Washington pursues the same strategy while expecting different results.
It is probably almost inevitable that the warhawks will turn their anger inward, toward Americans who are sick of the endless and costly wars. The US loss of the Vietnam war is still blamed by many on the protesters at home rather than on the foolishness of the war based on a lie in the first place.
Let’s hope these threats from Clark and Trump are not a trial balloon leading to a clampdown on our liberties. There are a few reasons we should be concerned. Last week the US House passed a bill that would allow the Secretary of State to unilaterally cancel an American citizen’s passport if he determines that person has “aided” or “abetted” a terrorist organization. And as of this writing, the Senate is debating a highway funding bill that would allow the Secretary of State to cancel the passport of any American who owes too much money to the IRS.
Canceling a passport means removing the right to travel, which is a kind of virtual internment camp. The person would find his movements restricted, either being prevented from leaving or entering the United States. Neither of these measures involves any due process or possibility of appeal, and the government’s evidence supporting the action can be kept secret.
We should demand an end to these foolish wars that even the experts admit are making matters worse. Of course we need a strong defense, but we should not provoke the hatred of others through drones, bombs, or pushing regime change overseas. And we must protect our civil liberties here at home from government elites who increasingly view us as the enemy.
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As soon as I start reading stories about all black or all latino units being formed in the military, I will know the gig is up and the government is about to get busy attacking the public. The Soviets did the same thing, form units of one type of people and then send them to their natural enemy within the state to police the area. It worked very well because there was no affinity to the region so the police could be brutal in suppression. I can't imagine the government would be that stupid but I have seen them do a lot of stupid things in my 58 years so all bets are off.
We just need that giant wall trump wants built, keeping us in. Then we will all be officially prisoners in our country. Thanks for helping to secure what freedoms we still have Dr Paul.
According to the US Supreme Court internment camps are pefectly fine under the constitution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korematsu_v._United_States
yes, and that ruling has never been overturned. People would do well to remember this when they hear of talk from people like trump building a giant wall, or a moat full of alligators. these measures will be just as effective at keeping people IN
Read "We The Living".
Border guards primarily kept their guns pointed inward, as the main character brutally experienced.
"America the Great" had we elected Dr. Paul. Instead we got the Basketballer-in-Chief and the Free Shit Army. If I have to hear one more word from the Hag from Arkansas or the Clown from NYC I think I'm gonna vomit.
No, Mr. Franklin, we can't keep it. Sorry.
The biggest problems are that we are in a constant fog since we no longer have a functional Constitution or a shared identity, we have been reduced to little tribes squabbling over diminishing resources, the real power abusers and war mongers are not widely known, history books are revised yearly with fewer facts and more NWO fairy tales, office holders openly flout the law with no fear of punishment and still run for higher office, central bankers do as they please and are not even fined, we have sadists running foreign policy and creating enemies for us faster than we can count them, it goes on and on.
It will break down eventually, but who knows what will emerge from the ruins. The bulk of these problems stem from the creation of the Fed and its control of governance by its owners.
The Neocon Zionist "endless war on terror" is really a war on America, the US Constitution, and Americans.
Should be obvious by now.
Golfer-in-chief or bower-in-chief might be more appropriate. I did laugh at Basketballer-in-chief though
You highlight one of the reasons I lament the end of the military draft. Drafting young men fresh out of high school or college on a random basis (no deferments at all for those mentally competent) would mean many families would be invested in the concept of an honest government. Since TPTB are so determined to have a strong US military, maintaining a large contingent of draftees would make its misuse less likely. Just my opinion, of course.
Your theory worked so well during the Viet Nam war. There was no problem with corruption in the Federal government then. (sarc)
A bad war using conscripts was why the anti-war movement got so powerful. We'd still be there if it was all volunteer.
Clark is just shilling for the Jade Helm AI system. His idea is EXACTLY what it's designed to do.
"Wrong-Way Clark" aiming his gun at his own people. Un-friendly fire incoming.
Didn't I read the other day that Clark (or his family) actually changed his name so that he would not be recognized for the origin of his species? Is he a dual citizen?
"You highlight one of the reasons I lament the end of the military draft...."
I'm with you Geek. I lament the end to slavery. Nothing like slavery to curb the price of production. If we could just bring it back we'd decrease the price of goods and services.
</sarc>
By the way, conscription IS slavery.
no, it isn't
conscription is at most temporary servitude. the conscripted soldier is - for a time - at most a "war serf"
the difference is profound, then you can't sell a conscripted soldier, and his service time is limited to a term or a war
as a comparison, the graduate saddled with US Student Debt has an unlimited service time for repaying his debt, without the option of personal bankruptcy
ergo he is more of a serf then the conscripted soldier
further, a sound republic restricts it's military ranks to citizens, and at most it creates foreign legions (example: France) or allied units (example: ancient Romans) for non-citizens
call a spade a spade
and since we are there, remember that the US is putting more and more emphasis on mercenaries
as a matter of disclosure, I served. and think that in the historic comparison, it's the better option. if you leave wars to money... you'll have more of them, then business tries harder
further, I found that becoming for a time a war serf has somehow increased my appreciation for liberty. exploring darkness gives a better understanding of what light is
Money replaced the whip as the main means of enforcing slave labor.
Try to eat, clothe yourself or have shelter in today's world without working for money. Those who try are now considered criminals.
"...conscription is at most temporary servitude"
Sure, in much the same way a rape victim is at most a temporary girlfriend.
You're a disgrace, GeezerGeek. You support institutionalized slavery, and the fact you even believe in the ridiculous notion of "government" means you support institutionalized extortion. Why do you think anyone has the right to enslave another person to go die for nothing? This will somehow lead to an "honest" government, which is a real pipe dream to begin with. You stick a gun in someone's face to make them stick a gun in someone's face and to fund that you stick a gun in peoples' face. A true supporter of individual freedom.
Yeah...many families....except for the families who got everybody else's family into the friggin war.
You realize you are condoning slavery?
You are exactly right. And that is the reason why we don't have a draft. To many people would care about foreign policy and would not be willing to stand by as DC sends their boys to liberate Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan. TPTB like to keep the people distracted and then whip them up in a patriotic frenzy when its time to renew their MIC contracts, or time to buy some new fangled toys of death. Sorry you got downvoted.
Yes, because conscription did wonders to improve the quality of the governments of the USSR and North Korea.
Conscription is just another tool - can be used for good or bad, but its least evil use in a free republic should only be as a last resort to hold off clear, imminent and existential threats.
China resorted to the same recipe in 1989.
"As soon as I start reading stories about all black or all latino units being formed in the military, I will know the gig is up and the government is about to get busy attacking the public."
Not going to happen that way, as the CIA wing of Zion's power is winning over the Pentagon wing.
The CIA utilizes more psychological control versus the Pentagon's brute force methods. As such, we should see a more civilian force made up of family, friends, and neighbors, than some open military force, coming to town to squash us. Much like the Nazis' "Brownshirts," and SS--both CIVILIAN and an arm of the Nazi party (political).
That is why CIA-Obama's Obamacare bill has the ReadyReserve provision tucked away in it. They will utilize people that look just like us, from similar areas, backgrounds, and ethnicity, to come for our gold, guns, Liberty, lives, and children of gun-toting age. They know that it is much harder, psychologically , to resist and shoot "one of your own," than some minority interloper.
Watch for it, as it's baked into the cake.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..
Taking it a step further, one should stop and think about what the noiZ-media and power have been pushing to the American people and society just in the past year. If one then looks at it from an elevated, big picture, point of view, they will see the psych op buried within it all. I.e. they are trying to condition us in favor of their agenda, and against each other.
One can go back and see the same thing in the run up to 9/11. They were conditioning the people about "terrorism," and the boogeyman Islam and Muslims. Then they spring the psych op buried within the 9/11 false-flag. And now they plunder billions and kill millions in the name of stopping "terrorism," and Muslim boogeymen. Well, the next so-called boogeymen will look just like us, and have us fighting their war for them against each other--"See something. Say something."
It's all Kool-Aid. Always.
If you want the military to simply gun down unarmed civilians in the street FOR PROTESTING A CORRUPT government then Welsley is your boy. He doesn't believe in the Constitution or the individual or the natural rights of us all. He is a threat.
Glory 5 - This time it's not personal.
God bless you Mr. Paul. You are a true example of an officer and a statesman.
When are people ever going to get it that the Pauls are nothing but controlled opposition? Him, his son, Paul Craig Roberts etc. role is to point out all the insane BS that the west is doing. Of course, they are right...but: they are shills for the NWO, fronted by the BRICS. By embellishing the crap the west is currently doing, and contrasting it with the 'good' the east is doing, they will make it easier for people to buy in when Putin comes in to 'save the world'...and put us all under one. world. government...and one currency to 'bind us all.'
Dude, I've heard this line a million times. The government is not that smart, really, it's not. They can pull off some phenomenal shit once in a while, but the cracks are there for all to see. Any centrally planned system has edges and faces the "Red Queen Problem". They have to run continuously faster to stay in the same place: entropy, logarithmic complexity, etc.
So there are truly some people of pure heart. The fact that they didn't make it into top spots in politics should be an indicator to both: how the system works, and how candidates are de-selected.
Paul may have been left alone because of your reason to keep an oppositional voice in the stew pot, but candidly, I don't think they really noticed him until he started making serious waves in 2008.
One world government will NEVER happen. The most basic reason is mother nature and complexity theory. You cannot apply enough force, military or otherwise to keep the world population in check. It's a complex system. It doesn't work that way. The system is failing now. If they pushed it much farther, complex systems theory would likely result in all the power brokers in a mass bonfire, a Bastille day of modern times if you will.
Their dreams are completely impossible, and we will likely end up in a less complex, but still very technological and sophisticated society in the next stable state. We are currently in a state termed "structural criticality". Look it up, really. This is important stuff.
+1 sarge
I'm not just pulling this shit right out of the thin air. Read through this and you can see why I think this might be true - Ron and Rand Paul:
http://redefininggod.com/category/ron-paul/
Paul Craig Roberts:
http://redefininggod.com/category/paul-craig-roberts/
The overall agenda:
http://redefininggod.com/understanding-the-nwo-strategy/
http://redefininggod.com/the-rockefeller-plan-for-the-brics-new-world-or...
http://redefininggod.com/nwo-schedule-of-implementation/
Don't just read his words. CHECK HIS LINKS. His viewpoint seems pretty legit to me.
Also, Brandon Smith says many things that parallel what Ken wrote about:
http://www.alt-market.com/articles/2403-the-economic-end-game-explained
http://www.alt-market.com/articles/2168-the-new-world-order-and-the-rise...
http://www.alt-market.com/articles/2074-russia-is-dominated-by-global-ba...
http://www.alt-market.com/articles/2126-false-eastwest-paradigm-hides-th...
When I say shit, I don't EVER say it in a vacuum.
I understand you've read about this stuff and people have generated data about it. But I've worked for the fuckers in various and very apropos positions.
So if you follow complexity theory, Benoit Mandelbot and such, the macro mirrors the micro (it's a fractal), and when you have seen a good sized element, you can make some educated judgements. You also need to understand entropy and complex systems. No complex system is a top-down system. They're bottom-up systems. Stable systems are always bottom-up.
Have you ever been in a meeting/business deal with people of various incentives? If so, you tend to follow a pattern, cooperation is usually reserved for mutual growth endeavors. When the pie starts to fall apart, everyone goes for each other's throat. It would be a very anomalous situation indeed if the various countries were singing kumbaya together in these times. They are going to start going for each other's throats and the entertainment will soon begin.
The NWO cannot work, nature doesn't work that way, no complex system could work that way. It would be like gravity reversing for the above to work out. I don't doubt they would want those outcomes. I want 10 tons of gold dropped in my lap, but unfortunately both scenarios are incredibly unlikely.
I didn't junk you. In fact, I think that - ultimately - you will be proven right. I just pray enough people wake up fast enough that they hasten the process before things start getting really hairy...
Well said.
That doesn't mean they won't try. They are trying as we comment here.
100 million have died in the name of "communism" so far.
What are 100 million more to those in power?
What are 1 billion more?
We are worthless to them, and they have the power in this scenario of moral hazard.
The government is truly not that "smart" -it's not supposed to be. It serves the elites who put them there. They couldn't give a shit whether things work for the electorate -as long as it works for them. The system is complex, but the elites now in control and have planned all and control it. Unless people pull theirs heads out of their asses, there will certainly be a 1 world government. They have dumbed down the population and will will use the ignorance and immorality of the sheeple to attain their goals. The people are NOT in control -the elites can pull off any brazen lie, false flag or whatever. The fact that they pulled off the 911 scam, the Holohoax and amny others -leads them to believe they are invincible and can pull off any major lie to manipiuate the sheeple. Humanity is in great danger of mass extermination if they do not figure this out -very soon.
Yes, and anyone reading the links I provided above with an open mind can see that you are right. At the very highest levels, this whole shitshow in front of us now has been planned, for at least 100 years. Just check out that Rockefeller article I linked to above to read a document they published in the 50's that lays out the plan they are following right now, and then the Economist article that both Smith and Ken reference from 1988 outlining how they will introduce a one world currency - and how that is occurring exactly as planned, RIGHT NOW.
And that last line of yours, about mass exterminations, is how they intend to make SURE their plans come to fruition - and they are pushing for that, NOW. Just think about these things that have been in the news lately, and how they impact human life:
- Ebola
- Vaccines
- GMO's
- Fluoride in the water
- Fracking
- Geoengineering
- Radiation in the environment (Fukushima)
- WOAR in the middle east
- ISIS and terrism in general
- Military Police State
When you start connecting these dots, it all adds up to a very ugly picture...and the fact that the majority of people *still* don't believe that most of this stuff is happening, shows how total their mind control over us really is.
You know, I often talk to people about the dangers of GMO's and biological agents and geoengineering (three things I have worked with) and present them overwhelming data that this shit really is happening, and you know they still deny it? SO I ask them, why???
Their answer?
They can't believe that such evil can exist in the world. Just can't grasp it mentally, so can't believe it...so, the easiest thing to do is deny it. So, they do.
Cognitive dissonance will get you every time. Denial is not a good coping strategy.
"They cant believe such evil can exist in the world"
yup, the crux of just about every feeble mind that cant grasp the truth of why those buildings fell...
at I V --boy are you full of shit---get a life ---
Don't look now, but Ron Paul has done more to awaken people to the ideas of individual liberty, than anyone since....well..forever.
Twas better this man did not get elected president, fo he would have ended up dead. Paul, that is.
Actually, if that deeply saddening atrocity were to occur (after the first 'if were to occur' of being elected), that may have been the catalyst for expedient reform to stop the asset stripping, rather than the long drawn out reform/collapse the US will see otherwise as it continues to be asset stripped.
JFK's assassination didn't catalyze anything.
..and the economy would likely have collapse, leave all fingers pointing at libertarianism. That Ron Paul did not get elected is #WINNING!!!
that's another big issue - to go down the path of truthfulness and righteousness, necessarily entails collapse, because the fraud is that big, its tentacles that deep in the mechanations of the world
I'll bet that CU#T Hitlery likes the idea..but doesn't have the balls to admit it. Wait... doesn't have the balls....??? Yes HE does.
I'm in full agreement with General Clark's policy of internment camps for disloyal Americans.
However, I suspect that we entertain radically different ideas of what disloyalty entails.
Regardless of whether his vision or mine were to be adopted, I believe that he and I would end up looking at each other through the barbed wire.
most of Congress belongs in internment camps as a disloyal American. And that's just a start. But I don't think we need such camps. let all non-violent drug offenders out of prison, and there is plenty of room for the real traitors.
I think I'll side on the no internment camps side. If the state can't balance a budget properly they sure as hell won't get the internment camps right.
Good for you Ron to point out that Trump sees Snowden as a traitor.
How does the Trump circlejerk on this site reconcile with the fact that their candidate wants one of the most important whistleblowers of the 21st century to be left high and dry?
...don't think Trump is thinking much, just blurting out all the long list of shit the government is doing (or rather failing to do) and soaking in the applause. He does not have a deep understanding of the monetary system because if he did he would know things can't be fixed and America can not return to 'greatness' until the bills are paid.
Like all the rest he just does not see that hyperinflation or default are the only long term solutions.
No politician will get elected who admits the real problem.
One's best candidate is the one who lies, saying what you want to hear.
Nobody gets close without speaking as if "they are of the body"...Kirk and Spock did a good job of it in that episode of trek..
While Trump has done some bastard things without caring for the consequences, I'd like to think at this point he's made his money, knows how to play the game, and maybe just maybe actually change things (and still have the balls knowing that if he does attempt to change anything significant, then that will necessarily entail attempts on his life by the security services.)
Some people care about their legacy...I dont know Trump well enough to say either way, but his willingness to say things straightforward and unfiltered is refreshing...
Hopefully not a mirage in the desert, not that I hope, it'll be what it'll be and us peeons will keep peein' on...
Have the other candidates made a statement about Snowden? Maybe they all think he is a traitor.
Wesley Clarke is just pretty creepy anyway. He rose up to become a general for the UN, not the USA.
Indeed....and in the process came very close to starting WW3 with the Russians during the Bosnia war.....errrrr, policing action.....errrr, liberation thingy.
"It is probably almost inevitable that the warhawks will turn their anger inward, toward Americans"
This is a far sighted statement! And probably right on the money. The hate building up internally between the elites and a population the elites see as getting in the way of elite plans and power. It is natural that the elites will use their police and intelligence friends to go after anyone seen as of a contrary opinion.
Back during Vietnam, the nation was on the brink of a policy of extra-judicial executions. That Kent State shooting was seen as the right policy by large numbers of elites, who wanted to begin to shoot down these protestors in the streets. No reason todays elites would not seek the same, only mouch more carefully done.
The elites would demand and get more support from thir media than thye did with Kent State. The elites funded and promoted the Hippie Liberal movement of the 60's - part of their takeover by transforming and takeover of the character of the American people and their control over government, the media, and thwe educational system. Peaceful revolution and takeover as per the Frankfurt School. In that regard, herbert Marcuse was the most influential person in America in the 20th Century. The takeover is largely complete. The orwellian State is firmly in place. Sheeple do as they are told -despite the internet revolution. We are fucked.
and then as now it is a very very big mistake--
This time those fired upon would quickly learn to fire first. Then the elites run..... Chase them down and find them. Should take some time but just like the Nazi war criminals they would be found.
Round up the dual citizens first.
What a brilliant idea. We'll call it "The Death Camp of Tolerance".
So, lets put WEsley Clark in his own internment camp for those people that have phsycosis and neurotic behavior. The camp will be quickly filled by others like him...Nuttyahoo for one and then we can put in Huckabee and the governor from Wisconsin and lets see.....I could go on. We could fill it with the Kagans and other neocons.
I don't recall reading about Americans of German heritage being interned during WW II en masse, but I do know that the liberal icon Franklin D. Roosevelt, in the most blatant case of racial repression ever by a U.S. president, interned many Americans of Japanese descent. What is with these damned progressives? Why are they so eager to put Americans in internment camps (or Adult Fun camps in Hitlery's case.)? Sounds like an inherent mental defect in pregressives.
I have an idea: put all the progressives in internment camps. Let's try it for a decade or so, and if it doesn't work out we can let them go and say we're sorry.
They were.
But their internment camps were known as "basic training".
As for progressive internment camps, I prefer to let them go their own way into exile and find some other country to ruin (to our obvious advantage).
It wasn't like the Japanese on the west coast. Many Germans were detained based on their degree of threat to the war.
"I don't recall reading about Americans of German heritage being interned during WW II"
Over 11,000 German-Americans were interned during WWII. In addition, the US accepted more than 4,500 German nationals deported from Latin America, detaining them in DOJ camps. The US internment camps to which Germans were directed were in Texas (camps Crystal City, Kennedy, Seagoville), Florida (Camp Blanding), Oklahoma (Stringtown), North Dakota (Fort Lincoln), Tennessee (Camp Forrest) and other sites.
http://www.gaic.info/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_German_Americans
Italian-Americans were also detained:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Italian_Americans
I want to know his definition of a "disloyal American".
Anyone who is contrary to my best interests. My best interests are; America first and only. All soldiers return home and deport the rest of the world from our borders.
Anyone that disagrees with him on any subject.
Simple, anyone who is debt free.
What kind of American could be more disloyal to the American people and American stability than one who continually uses terror as a means of provocation to get us into wars where our sons and daughters are not only killed, but also become murderers and terrorists themselves?
General Wesley Clark, you are a traitor to America, the constitution and the American people. Put yourself in a concentration camp.
Or maybe you should start by proactively imprisoning all of those with dual citizenships, especially those with Israeli citizenships who show a greater loyalty to Israel than they do to the US. OR you can prophylactically imprison all Wall Street bankers because EVERYTHING they do is a crime.
The fucker should be behind bars for bombing our former WWII ally in 1999... the white Christian Serbs.
Handing power to a king, a robe to a judge, a generalship to a soldier corrupts. You pay and die for their glory. You serve; they command. Sheeple crave a master, because they doubt their ability to think. The chosen, the exceptional, the master race, the historic destiny, the promised land, and such ilk are bait to con a sheeple.
Dumber than baited animals, they swallow the hook of faux praise and agreeable words.
Pro-Activism.
Let's face it we're pussies. As long as the Neocons and their killer goons know this then nothing changes.
When i hear of some lunatic in the USSofA walking into a cinema and opening up on folks i think to myself , WTF. Or the lunatic setting off an explosion in Europe at a fucking bus stop, where folks have just done their weekly shopping, again, WTF. Why not walk into a cop shop or a governmental building and make a statement?
Look at the rebel Tuareg's in Niger. Areva , the French uranium miners who operate 2 mines in Agadez and Irlit are polluting what's is already 70% desertification. So the rebels said fuck this and blew up a car causing 10's of millions euros of damage to one mine with several deaths and at the other mine killed 20 french soldiers, wounding 50+.
Hollande , Areva now have to spend millions securing these towns/cities rendering the mines uneconomic.
Still they need electricity in Paris at any cost.
With the Libyan fiasco the French now need to secure 3 borders and a Dessert with traffickers/bandits/smugglers/tewwowists of every description. Vive La France.
-Why not walk into a cop shop or a governmental building and make a statement?-
You're on the right path with this line of questioning. Now just follow it through, and you'll come to the most likely reason. Mainly, all these 'lunatic' extremists are either hoaxes, patsies, or agents of the very institutions they are supposedly targeting. The primary goal behind their actions is to instill fear and division amongst the sheeple, with the subsequent demand for 'more security'. Only in modern society, successfully dumbed-down over the decades, would the average person believe that someone who truly hated the government and wanted to act on it.....would chose to blow up a mall full of his fellow oppressed citizens.
Yeah, makes perfect sense.
Exactly, it makes no sense to blow up the local police station, and federal institutions where the real crime comes from, nobody gets near.
Which is why false flags are performed.
So, how many Americans can read the tea leaves, and are firing their resumes to recruiters overseas? Seriously, the moronism is terminal here.
I was just looking at Costa Rica firearms laws, you can have them there just not "military weapons". Any other ideas on a decent place to go?
All they have to do is trump up tax evasion or anti-Americanism on anybody at this point and you could get stuck in fusion center hell. I feel sorry for the general public who thought camps were a tin foil hat story, would be almost worth it to stay just to see the look on their faces when TSHTF. Now we have politicians and generals discussing internment camps openly, the same day a western government detains a damn 3 year old.
I believe revolving door Rahmbo has already set up internment camps in Chicago Ms No. Now there might be some undesirables who deserve incarceration but 'guilty' before charged and swiped like they do in the Georgian Secret American Gulags is a slippery slope.
Missed our banter. Am getting more depressed at recent events in this sick depraved world. Sorry for my colourful language of late; keep forgetting to take 2 of the red and one blue pills.
No need to apologize to me for cussing FUD there is a time and a place for everything, I am pretty sure I outperform you in this catagory anyway ( ; After living in Scottsdale for a few months I find any realism refreshing. Don't be depressed it just encourages the bastards. I'll try to catch up to you on ZC.
We should detain more three year olds. Most of them, in fact. Indefinitely. Pre-emptive action.
Look into Uruguay. While it may be "Kansas on the Atlantic," for the most part they have pretty libertarian laws.
FTA: 'Wesley Clark... proposed that “disloyal Americans” be sent to internment camps for the “duration of the conflict.”'
Sorry, Wes, but the disloyal Americans are running the show. Lock them up and we'll have no Congress and no top brass at any government department or agency. The TSA employs only disloyal Americans, as does the CIA, DEA, FBI, DoD and a dozen or more federal agencies. Hey, wait... maybe you're on to something.
This is a problem for the 0.01% and once they've built Elysium in America's green and pleasant land, cancelled all your passports and turned the whole country into an internment camp using the Gaza template you certainly won't need to worry about it.
Ilove the US election show, every time it comes around it seems the characters get more ridiculous.
These morons better start internment of the banksters and bankster families or they're soon going to be out of money to eat with.
So - it always seems to baffle the elites why we have home grown "terrorists".
... "Last week, Retired General Wesley Clark, who was NATO commander during the US bombing of Serbia, proposed that “disloyal Americans” be sent to internment camps for the “duration of the conflict.” "
... "Gen. Clark ran for president in 2004 and it’s probably a good thing he didn’t win considering what seems to be his disregard for the Constitution."
What's going on in this retired warhawk general's mind? ... PTSD tantrum? ... proud ex-NATO commander, yet failed run for presidency? ... genocide experiences in Vietnam and Kosovo? ...
... one wonders what fucked up this guy's war-mongering brain ... well, who knows, but here's a tiny background ...
... "Clark's father's family was Jewish; his paternal great-grandfather immigrated to the United States from Belarus in response to the Pale of Settlement and anti-Semitic violence from Russian pogroms.
Clark was born Wesley Kanne in Chicago on December 23, 1944. Kanne came from the Kohen family line. His father Benjamin died on December 6, 1948; his mother then moved the family to Little Rock, Arkansas.
This move was made for a variety of reasons, including escaping the greater cost of living in a large city such as Chicago, the support Veneta's family in Arkansas could provide, and her feeling of being an outsider to the remaining Kanne family as she did not share their religion. Once in Little Rock, Veneta married Viktor Clark, whom she met while working as a secretary at a bank. Viktor raised Wesley as his son, and officially adopted him on Wesley's 16th birthday. Wesley's name was changed to Wesley Kanne Clark. Viktor Clark's name actually replaced that of Wesley's biological father on his birth certificate, something Wesley would later say that he wished they had not done. Veneta raised Wesley without telling him of his Jewish ancestry to protect him from the anti-Semitic activities of the Ku Klux Klan in the South." >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Clark