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Affirmatively Destroying America's Neighborhoods In The War On Suburbia
Submitted by Bob Livingston via PersonalLiberty.com,
Few of us understand patient gradualism. We live and have our being within a few years and mostly in an unconscious automated state of mind.
But people in power are long-term planners. They absolutely understand human nature and how to channel it to the evolution and refinement of the authoritarian state.
Authoritarianism is based on long-term planning. Authoritarianism is a philosophy of collectivism. Some call it democracy. Some call it communism. Some call it fascism. Some call it National Socialism. But whatever you call it, it is all collectivism or authoritarianism; and in its ultimate form it is globalism.
The goal is perfect docility and perfect harmony with authoritarianism (economic, social and spiritual). Until the people accept collectivism under some pretext, they are not docile and completely subdued. Once they do, rebellion and confrontation are impossible. This is the ultimate goal of the globalists, and the American system is nearing this state.
As I told you last week in “Why is the war on the Confederacy still going on today?,” the dismantling of the middle class has become the appointed, full-time task of the largest government alphabet soup agencies and Wall Street on behalf of globalism. The purpose behind this is that if those big middle-class producers and consumers can be decimated once and for all, then they can join the ranks of low-wage workers and more readily accept government largess and, thereby, become “hooked” on collectivism.
Collectivism is a certain means of social, economic and religious control. Politicians regularly espouse individualism, human liberty and democracy at the same time. Impossible! Individualism and human liberty are opposite to democracy and any other form of collectivism. The collectivist mentality or the mass collective mind is the spirit of the New World Order.
But something is standing in the way. Despite the years of indoctrination through the public (non)education system and mass programming by the national propaganda media and public (i.e., government) policy, rural Middle and Southern middle-class Americans — the “Red States” of “flyover country” — continue to resist the globalists’ dreams of a socialist/Marxist “utopia” and egalitarianism. That’s because they are, by and large, more independent and more self-reliant and also demand equitable reward for their labor and product, placing them in competition for resources and goods with the global elite.
Efforts to remove this obstacle are behind the current war on the middle class and individual liberty and the spirit of individualism through the attempts to whitewash Southern culture from existence and distort the true nature of the Confederate cause by casting it and Confederate symbols as racist and treasonous. The bigoted elites in the District of Criminals and pointy-headed “thinkers” in the prestigious institutes of learning continually promulgate the meme that whites — rural whites in particular and Southern whites specifically — are backward, racist buffoons riding in trucks looking for blacks to lynch while ridiculously clinging to their guns and religion.
The purpose is to stir up racial animosity and manipulate the people against one another. Manipulating minorities who are naturally drawn to socialism is basic political strategy to cover government crime and justify government politics and plunder.
The principle of government is that political power is maximized by forcibly leveling every individual to the same status of conformity, collectivism, egalitarianism and serfdom.
The truth goes deeper. Because of perceived social, cultural, racial and psychic inferiority, minorities desire to parasite on government force and socialism to subvert those they envy and wish to imitate. (This includes all so-called minority groups, not just racial minorities.)
Last summer, there was an invasion of illegals from Central and South America stemming from the immigration policies and statements of President Barack Obama. Over the ensuing months, the Obama regime shipped those illegals into communities and cities across the country and immediately began efforts to grant them some sort of legal status in order to ultimately provide them with voting rights in a back-door effort to change the local demographics and, therefore, the voting outcomes in these communities from a conservative bent to one more socialistic.
Third World immigrants are attracted to cradle-to-grave nanny state socialism because it is what they know and all they have known. They are also more accepting of gun control and the police state. They have no understanding of or experience with individual liberty or the concept of natural rights.
Gaining voting “rights” for non-citizens is the main driver of the federal opposition to voter ID laws.
The Obama regime attempted but failed with a mass social re-engineering scheme in 2010. That effort, fueled by corruptocrat Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), sought to fulfill the United Nation’s Agenda 21 plan, adopted at the Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro in 1992 and signed onto by “New World Order” President George H.W. Bush.
Using a typical government “carrot-and-stick” policy, the bill sought to award or deny grants from the federal treasury to cities based on their compliance with amending or passing zoning laws to restrict housing in rural areas and force the residents into city centers.
The stick, in addition to denial of the funds, would be bad publicity generated by “Green” organizations working on behalf of the federal government criticizing local government officials for turning down free money and neglecting so-called “Green” initiatives.
Now comes Obama’s speciously titled Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing edicts from the Department of Housing and Urban Development. This extra-constitutional rule change has been in the works for more than two years, but has been largely glossed over by the MSM. It seeks to do the reverse of the Dodd bill. That is, rather than drive the suburbanites into the cities, it seeks to move inner-city minorities into the suburbs.
The AFFH will have the federal government imposing preferred racial and ethnic composition on neighborhoods in exchange for federal funds provided or denied. It will change zoning laws, require a certain amount of government-subsidized housing in rural areas in order to achieve “racial balance,” control transportation and business development and remove the authority of state and local governments in the areas of zoning, transportation and education.
As National Review’s Stanley Kurtz writes:
Fundamentally, AFFH is an attempt to achieve economic integration. Race and ethnicity are being used as proxies for class, since these are the only hooks for social engineering provided by the Fair Housing Act of 1968. Like AFFH itself, today’s Washington Post piece blurs the distinction between race and class, conflating the persistence of “concentrated poverty” with housing discrimination by race. Not being able to afford a freestanding house in a bedroom suburb is no proof of racial discrimination. Erstwhile urbanites have been moving to rustic and spacious suburbs since Cicero built his villa outside Rome. Even in a monoracial and mono-ethnic world, suburbanites would zone to set limits on dense development. Emily Badger’s piece in today’s Washington Post focuses on race, but the real story of AFFH is the attempt to force integration by class, to densify development in American suburbs and cities, and to undo America’s system of local government and replace it with a “regional” alternative that turns suburbs into helpless satellites of large cities. Once HUD gets its hooks into a municipality, no policy area is safe. Zoning, transportation, education, all of it risks slipping into the control of the federal government and the new, unelected regional bodies the feds will empower. Over time, AFFH could spell the end of the local democracy that Alexis de Tocqueville rightly saw as the foundation of America’s liberty and distinctiveness.
To accomplish its goals, HUD will dig into the racial balance ZIP code by ZIP code looking for areas of segregation, with the segregation threshold being nonwhite populations of 50 percent or more. Federally funded cities deemed overly segregated will be pressured to change their zoning laws to allow construction of more subsidized housing in affluent areas in the suburbs and relocate inner-city minorities to those predominantly white areas. HUD’s maps, which use dots to show the racial distribution or density in residential areas, will be used to select affordable-housing sites, according to the New York Post.
To employ this policy, the federal government has undertaken a massive Orwellian-style data collection initiative, prying into the medical records, credit card purchases, mortgage business records, IRS filings, employment records, educational records and local government policy initiatives searching for racial “inequalities” for the Justice Department to prosecute.
The only way to resist this tyranny is for local governments to eschew all federal monies including Community Development Block Grants going forward. Of course, local residents always pressure their community leaders to accept government monies under the auspices that they have paid their “taxes” and want a return on their “investment.” But once the Feds get their hooks into the local community through the distribution of money from the federal treasury, they can exert total control over local government’s functions regarding housing, zoning and regulations far more than they do already.
The globalist agenda is the most comprehensive program for world fascism and world collectivism ever conceived. Its basis is esoteric deception, as carried out pragmatically by mass politics, international mass banking and the mass media. It operates as a whole — as an organism. Today’s democratic globalists make the communists and the Nazis look like amateur totalitarians.
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Livingston wrote:
"Few of us understand patient gradualism."
"But people in power are long-term planners."
"Authoritarianism is based on long-term planning."
And that is what is so scary. Coming to a nice neighborhood near you and me soon.
Ah but for the metered progress of Fabian-ism
The purpose is to stir up racial animosity and manipulate the people against one another.
And, that describes Obama's domestic agenda perfectly.
Forward (over the cliff)!
Let's hope my municipality refuses their HUD funding and tells them to go fuck themselves. Then, this area will be a shining beacon and will attract home buyers and small businesses. Sorry if that is not compassionate, the world is not compassionate and we don't need that riff raff around here.... that's why i left St. Louis...
Problem is we've been using the wrong models this whole time...
Steve Keen: The Deliberate Blindness Of Our Central Planners - See more at: http://www.planbeconomics.com/2015/07/steve-keen-deliberate-blindness-of...Steve Keen: The Deliberate Blindness of our Central Planners
http://www.planbeconomics.com/2015/07/steve-keen-deliberate-blindness-of...
See I've already waited too long
And all my hope is gone
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lIHOZOZYIHs&itct=CAkQpDAYCSITCJiTvJ_5gccCF...
Keep in mind that cities are the worst ecological nightmares ever developed by mankind. Everything has to be transported long distances. Energy costs to maintain the infrastructure are enormous. Transportation costs within the city are enormous. Infrastructure building becomes prohibitively expensive. Only the enormous power of a government can keep these nightmares functioning.
I guess it would have been better if we had remained hunter-gatherers in the swamps of Iraq 8000 years ago!
I note you are typing this drivel ON THE INTERNET and ON A COMPUTER, neither of which were picked off a tree, dug out of the ground, or raised in a barn. So, your point is invalid. We are all dumber for having read your post. Good day to you, sir. I said good day!
When you say it's going to happen now
Well when exactly do you mean?
If this is pulled off -- this will finish off the last productive vestiges of Americana. §8 coming to the burbs near you.
Enjoy America. I'll be watching from overseas. Never before have I seen such a great nation commit suicide so quickly as the United States in pursuit of "fairness."
i understand creeping incrementalism. maybe that is what the author was trying to say.
to be clear, correct me if i'm wrong, they import and blend aliens into any layer of communities to get an average mixity to ensure the manipulation of the X vs Y is everywhere to diminish the risk of strong resistence, and those who refuse to blend get no social help or gov help...?
German news is breaking that V is getting charged with High Treason in Greece.
He better leave the country, and head to Russia via Macedonia ASAP.
This is the EU getting its revenge.
a new and improved version of economic hitmen, politicians beware, tow the bankster debt plan for collectivism/NWO (ar-ar, austerity) or pay dearly with incarceration- ironic as hell, lol.
This Tyler has just nailed it. This should be a required reading assignment. ZHers, please share this ine with the sheeple in your life so that they may understand the 'benevolent intentions' of the hand that they continue to lick.
Bravo Tyler
Why the HELL is CONGRESS FUNDING THIS?!?!?!?!?!
This is why you never give them more than address and number of people in a house during the census.
Did you think they were going to help you using all the extra info you provide?
pods
I dont even give them that. I told the census worker to "Get off my lawn!"
The federal goobermint can go fuck itself.
I'm a black hispanic transgener lesbian male and will gladly tell the Census assjoles that. - Signed Cracker Ass Craker
END THIS FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NOW!!! Join the Amish extremism movement.
Of course that will mean the end of our favorite personal data mining website ZH, but I'm sure we can buy the domain name for cheap once the dust settles.
I hear you. I have been bitching for 20 years, I couldn't take watching the country turn into a hell hole. I have been in Asia 10 years now. If I thought that people would rise up I would be the first o back but don't see that happening in my life time.
Reductio ad absurdum.
Your the dumb one with your static 20th century thinking. With the technology available now, there is no a-priori reason for everyone to pile into one place merely to facilitate communication and transactions.
Look at these question papers of 8th grade in 1895.
1895 8th grade final exam
Remember when grandparents and great-grandparents stated that they only had an 8th grade education? Well, check this out. Could any of us have passed the 8th grade in 1895?
This is the eighth-grade final exam from 1895 in Salina , Kansas , USA .. It was taken from the original document on file at the Smokey Valley Genealogical Society and Library in Salina , and reprinted by the Salina Journal..
8th Grade Final Exam: Salina , KS - 1895
Grammar (Time, one hour)
1. Give nine rules for the use of capital letters.
2. Name the parts of speech and define those that have no modifications
3. Define verse, stanza and paragraph.
4. What are the principal parts of a verb? Give principal parts of 'lie,' 'play,' and 'run'
5. Define case; illustrate each case.
6 What is punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of punctuation.
7 - 10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.
Arithmetic (Time,1 hour 15 minutes)
1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.
2. A wagon box is 2 ft. Deep, 10 feet Long, and 3 ft. Wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
3. If a load of wheat weighs 3,942 lbs, what is it worth at 50cts/bushel, deducting 1,050 lbs for tare?
4. District No 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals?
5. Find the cost of 6,720 lbs. Coal at $6.00 per ton.
6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7percent per annum.
7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft long at $20 per metre?
8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent.
9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance of which is 640 rods?
10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt.
U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes)
1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided
2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus .
3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.
4. Show the territorial growth of the United States ..
5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas
6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion.
7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton , Bell , Lincoln , Penn, and Howe?
8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, 1865.
Orthography (Time, one hour)
[Do we even know what this is??]
1. What is meant by the following: alphabet, phonetic, orthography, etymology, syllabication?
2. What are elementary sounds? How classified?
3. What are the following, and give examples of each: trigraph, subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals?
4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u'.
5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e.' Name two exceptions under each rule.
6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each.
7 Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: bi, dis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, sup.
8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last.
9.. Use the following correctly in sentences: cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane , vain, vein, raze, raise, rays.
10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.
Geography (Time, one hour)
1 What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?
2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas ?
3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?
4. Describe the mountains of North America .
5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia , Odessa , Denver , Manitoba , Hecla , Yukon , St. Helena, Juan Fernandez, Aspinwall and Orinoco .
6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S. Name all the republics of Europe and give the capital of each..
8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude?
9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.
10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give the inclination of the earth.
HUH??? Are they kidding??? This is hard to believe....
Notice that the exam took FIVE HOURS to complete.
Gives the saying 'he only had an 8th grade education' a whole new meaning, doesn't it?!
Also shows you how poor our education system has become and, NO, I don't have the answers!
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I suspect the lower half had dropped out before the eighth grade. One half the population is below average. One half of that is dismal. In an effort to leave no child behind, we have drop the bench mark so low that a planarian can cross it.
We have technology now so we don't need no stinking education.
The machines that our "owners" possess create our productivity and as citizens of this planet we deserve to share in that productivity. I don't know why we deserve it other than our ideological leaders say so...and I really want to believe them.
When I was in school the most basic calculator was not allowed in tests as it was considered cheating. Now it is only considered cheating if you get caught.
Dear Stuck on Zero:
You're a fucking idiot.
That is all.
Funny in early 70's when our schools were being destroyed by busing. Grammar was removed, math was lowered down to + and _ , homework removed, science consisted of movies.
None of the people in the suburbs gave a rat’s ass about our schools.
If you want an effective strategy there are really only two short of revolution.
Organize opposition to the Federal Reserve.
Deprive Washington on money.
That is it. Short of that the Wall Street March to totalitarianism will continue unabated.
Glad to see the suburbs getting a bloody nose. Maybe you will wake. It’s possible.
remember that? then we had socialist studies tale over civics and im not sure kids even pledge alegence in the morning any more.
deprive money of DC. will not work because they do not work in fiat phys but in electronic writes on books, they do not give a fuck about money for money, the print is just 000 on computers.
QE has never injected a single dollar in reel economy, why it would bother DC. now... ?
Exactly, people still think the .gov in the US needs their "taxes". The money is just zero and ones anyway; only the US can get away with this for now on account of the "reserve" currency scam - can't last forever though.
Yeah but the government can't print money.
They borrow it from the FED. It will blow up though. It is a certainty.
pods
I swear idiots just read the argument they want to read so they can attack the straw man they want to attack with the argument they are just dying to make.
Nothing in my post suggested I support suburbanisation in any way. I was merely observing the idiocy of one of the esteemed members of this prestigious site's inability to accept that cities exist because they "make sense".
Yeah fuckers, downvote me for calling a spade a spade (and unlike the typical post on this site these days, I mean that without racial prejudice).
I just returned from a couple of weeks in Amsterdam and Dublin. Those cities are not ecological nightmares the way that most North American cities are. But in those cities, the highest buildings are maybe 15-20 stories, not the 60-, 70-, and even 100-storey buildings common in North America, and most buildings are 5 stories or less.
The far lower population density means traffic isn't as bad, energy costs are lower, etc. etc.
Looking at things this way, the elevator may have been the most ecologically disastrous invention, ever!
Their symbol is the turtle.
knukles
It's great seeing you around. An anniversary is coming in a month. :)
All is well for me, hope the same for you, yours, and my other long-lost friends!
Congrats, my brother!
Ain't nothing like this journey! Nothing!
May His peace be upon you.
What group structures from generation to generation?
some day, my son, this will be all yours.
It is their nature and their nurture.
Or those city people living out in the country just might adopt the attitudes of those country folk. We'll just have to see. In the country, there's nobody nearby to the the broken, pump, fireplace, water heater, etc but you and your neighbor a few miles down the road. In the suburbs, it's gonna cost you big money to get those repairs done....unless you learn to do it for yourself (ie independence again).
All farmers are more virtuous, noble, neighborly, and freedom oriented than all suburbanites. /sarc off
When it all goes sideways, yes. The burbs will be eaten as a second course by the zombies.
So, just can't/won't get out from under that McMansion, eh? Do it man!
Farmers are industrious GMO loving, roundup spreading, wood lot burning bastards.
That being said; the real problem is too many of us and not enough space, food, tolerance, repect, etc. Mother nature and nuclear will get rid of us all.
Do you even know any farmers? When things go south I'd take one farmer over 20 suburbanites.
America was destroyed decades ago.
Soul Glow
That goes for you too, SG! Hope all is well for you & yours.
A few years ago when the morons of S. Dakota voted to keep property taxes even though they have enough gas and oil revenue, I realized we had pretty much lost the fight for liberty and were now officially sheep.
Something tells me most South Dakotans voted AGAINST keeping the viciously-tyrannical implement known as 'property taxes'. However, as with ALL such referendums across this newly forming mega-banana-republic....the establishment simply programmed their DIEBOLD machines accordingly. Awww gosh, sheeple....the referendum 'passed' by a 56/44 percent vote. So close, but oh well....guess we're keeping those taxes. Besides....how would we pay our cops and teachers if we got rid of them?!!!
A lot of horseshit speculation in this piece. No evidence whatsoever.
"Manipulating minorities who are naturally drawn to socialism "
Really? So minorities are genetically predisposed to socialism?
Apparently so. they see government dick and all they want to do is suck it.
That's interesting, since nearly all of african culture is tribal and hierarchical.
"That's interesting, since nearly all of african culture is tribal and hierarchical."
African culture? Who the fuck is talking about that on this thread? Oh, you are, ok. How's that fucking African Culture rollin' in the inner cities?
Oh.... right, it's not.
Go sell stupid somewhere else, ok?
That you can't get a simple point is not my deficiency, it's yours:
Me: Really? So minorities are genetically predisposed to socialism?
You: apparently so.
Me: The origin of africans, africa, has no socialism whatsoever.
This is not hard to understand.
Quick question: are the ghettos in America egalitarian?
Fuck no. Farmers in the midwest are MORE egalitarian than black neighborhoods in the US.
You got me, I missed your point, entirely.
"Quick question: are the ghettos in America egalitarian?
Fuck no. Farmers in the midwest are MORE egalitarian than black neighborhoods in the US."
Zippppppppp right over my head. Are you arguing with yourself here? I'm trying to understand your POV but it's not computing.
This ain't Africa, and crime will come with this crap. Lots of it.
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FORWARD SOVIET!
I agree and disagree with both of you.
Aspiring to eat the proverbial free lunch is, in my estimate, intrinsic to all humans. Some are just better than others about the longer-term view on the lunch's repercussions, however.
Yes, minorities in U.S. inner cities would get DT shakes if they had to stop sucking gov't dick. But look at entire nations like Greece. And the Rooskies in the 1920's. And so on, and so forth.
He never said they were "genetically predisposed to socialism" - stop setting up a STRAW MAN.
He said that a lot of people coming over the border from the south are pre-disposed to socialism. Guess what? - lot of countries in Latin America are Socialist! The people there have been living under various socialist governments for decades, hence they are predisposed to socialism.
Why the hell did you even bring Africa into the debate?
Yep.
http://therightstuff.biz/2015/07/29/dear-cuckservatives-you-wont-win-the...
Thank you for setting that straight BruntFCA!
I'm not even sure if he knew he was setting up a Straw Man or if he is just an imbecile. Based on my observations of discussion threads and discussions with people in general, there are serious deficiencies in basic logical reasoning skills in the average person these days. It's beyond the pale.
While I care about I everything that is going on (we live in interesting times - I'm actually fascinated by all the crazy sh*t) and will continue to follow it with interest and comment about it now and then, I kind of have just thrown in the towel. I'm not going to worry about tomorrow. I'm going to go with the flow man, kinda like The Dude. Yeah, I'm starting a business, and things are getting complicated here, but "he who regards the wind will not sow, and he who regards the clouds will not reap," so I'm going to just keep going with the flow. But, there sure are a lot of idiots out there - it's kinda comical and scary at the same time.
Yeah.
I guess that's why Africa is such a raging success because of that superior tribal hierarchy.
http://gawker.com/5535293/suburbs-the-new-slums
It's a 2010 article but still relevant.
Does anyone have a link to anything that could be considered more "official?"
It would be interesting to see if there is anything currently on the books that supports/substantiates this. Its a logical extention of data collection, technology, and a state run by psychos looking to distill regional/ethnic identitites.
If anyone has links please share. The only info i can find is articles like the one above linked to other articles like the one above.
I must admit I am skeptical as well. Gubmint employees who can't count don't particularly surprise me, but anyone who thinks they can hit 50% non-white in the burbs is smoking crack. Just because you can count on dead voters in Shitcago, doesn't mean you can find enough breathing non-whites to invade suburbia. There simply are not enough bodies who can fog a mirror. http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html
Throughout history, the rich have always concentrated in cities, making them centers of trade, entertainment, and power. America of the last sixty years is an exception. Because we consider collective self-defense "racist", whites have abandoned our cities to third-world tribes.
Whites who resettle blighted urban areas will end up like Kevin Sutherland unless the white people they hate take over America before the black people they love take over the city.
Don't forget that their enriched melanin skin that also makes them superior! Pointed stick technology in Africa is far ahead of anything the white man can produce!
And have had so much more time to perfect their system
Right. So we have tribal and hierarchical elite coming to America? Or just people looking for better economic opportunity?
In 100% agreement with you , I call you my base! " when fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying the cross." sinclaire Lewis
Furthermore, collectivism does not equal fascism. Look at the Scandanavian countries. They are not fascist. And what's wrong with egalitariarianism? Our declaration of independence was wrong stating that all men are created equal?
Read " The Germans, they thought they were free 1933-45 by Milton Mayer
http://www.press.chicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html
Rebel Yell :"In 100% agreement with you ,"
African Culture, how's dem Somali's doin' in Lewiston Maine.
Jeez, you guys make me laugh.
At least you're laughing. Your ignorance and cruelty makes me cry duc888
Yup, that's me, ignorant and cruel (rolling eyes)....
Confused? mebbe....I'm just not seeing your POV.
Oh well.
;)
I have no problem with you spending your own money to lift up the poor unfortunates and carry them on your back.
Just go and be quiet about it and don't involve me with your dippy utopian fantasies.
I have no problem with leaving you out of it as long as you are not capitalizing on the surplus of labor shovel head.
You mean like now with record low worker participation rates? Yeah, I've been capitalizing on that shit big time.
The only survivable system is a voluntary one.....so its up to you to convince me, lie to me, manipulate me and scare me into voluntary submission. The problem is that it NEVER works. You can never get 100% participation so we create other means like prisons and wars to thin them out.
http://www.press.chicago.edu/
Misc/Chiago/511928.html
As a European I can tell you that places like Sweden are collapsing into failed states. Highest rapes, highest amount of ISIS terrorists, and massive government debt.
Socialist welfare states can sustain themselves as long as they can retain a high degree of conformity of social values and community. Open borders kill any hopes of a socialist utopia as they become prime targets of those looking for easy domination. They might as well print invitations. Feed your coyotes and watch what happens.
As I noted above, I just returned from two weeks in Amsterdam and Ireland. In both cities, I noticed the relative civility of the population (e.g. cars not only not trying to run down cyclists, but yielding the right of way to them, people forming orderly queues on the sidewalk and getting out of others way, etc. - stuff I never see in North America), and I also noticed the relativeness "paleness" of the citizenry. When I looked up the demographics, I noted that over 95% of Dutch and Irish share some kind of Christian background and Caucasian ancestry. So your comment "Socialist welfare states can sustain themselves as long as they can retain a high degree of conformity of social values and community." rings true with me. The problem in North America is in our pointless and misguided pursuit of 'diversity' we have forgotten that diversity of ideas isn't a bad thing, but diversity of VALUES is. When everyone believes in the same values, as you point out, it's easy to achieve consensus and to 'work together' (i.e. make some small sacrifices), because you believe that everyone else will do the same.
In our diversity-ridden culture in NA, there's a huge schism between those who follow the Bible's "If a man does not work, neither shall he eat", and those who follow "where dat gubmint cheese at?". The fascist Lincoln was correct when he said "A house divided against itself shall not stand", but the 'elites' will never admit that this is our basic problem.
sorry, duplicate post.
it's a shame. They imported feces by the ton from the turd world, just like France, in hopes to keep supporting the older people in the system.
Scandanavian countries have been mostly heterogenous groups for at least two centuries. (Although it's changing now). By brining poor, broken, ethnic minorities into wealthy suburbs, you don't raise the bar for them, you lower the standard of living for the people paying for the schools, roads, hospitals, and jails. Have you seen any of the statistics on blacks and latinos? I have no problem living next to Neil DeGrasse Tyson, but I'll be damned if I am going to be living next to Pookie and Julio and their 23 children they don't live with.
Do you think that if they are shipped out to the burbs, they are going to give up one dollar in free benefits? Not a chance. All this will do will force those who can afford it into the wealthiest communities where no HUD money is ever taken, and further erode the middle class by cost shifting poor people onto them via police, jails, courts, prisons, and hospitals. Obama and his ilk recognize they weaponize the poor against the middle class and that's what they are doing. Obamacare was the first great slaughter.
I think you will find most Socialist Parties were led by Jews whether Bebel or Kautsky, Luxemburg, or Trotsky, Bukharin, Radek, Bela Kun
You will find Jew as libertarians and conservatives, as well. It's the ideology that matters. So, if a black guy from Kenya without an ounce of Jewish blood wants to do collectivism it is not better or worse than a Jew, a Celt or an Asian.
Let's see.
The Libertarians want you to become passive and use peaceful protest to control the violent use of force by the state. They ignore the blacks as being a huge part of the problem with their behavior and criminality and appeal to feminists and progressives alike and give side-mouthed compliments about Marx in the bylines.
Conservatives, want you to worship a guy from a book that SACRIFICED himself for the greater good.
How much dumber can you guys get? I mean seriously. As sad as it is, the NAZI's at least made sense. They blamed all their woes on a group of people that brought all of these ideologies to Europe with them. All of these ideologies are tearing our cultures apart. I say the Euro descendants need to reject these middle-eastern religions, and push off these Khazar created ideologies. Go back to what makes us who we are, and fuck everyone else. Who am I kidding though, it will never happen because the European man has been broken and colonized. Too busy paying Jews for hope fantasies and delusions.
Nid, have you found a new branch of Libertarians? I never heard of the group you are describing.
BS on the whole post. It is childish and idiotic.
Where do you see passive political tolerance as part of Libertarian beliefs? They are generally anti-war but that is a different animal.
Conservatives and libertarians may be atheists. They are not all evangelicals. The fact you do not grasp Christian doctrine makes you a moron, not them.
If the Nazi's and there racism make sense to you then you are the one that needs to look in the mirror for the idiot. You should immediately emmigrate to the nearest totalitarian racist regime for the sake of your own logic and superior intellect.
If the "European man" has been so easily mislead and fooled by Jews and their "hope fantasies and delusions" then he is indeed a twit.
The same socialists fooled Mao, Pot, Minh, Kim, Chavez, Castro and people of every race, continent and ethnic origin. It is not a Jewish thing unless you believe they have secret mind control techniques. Marx's buddy Engles was a total European Man, German, Protestant, white dude.
I think he wanted to point at that a lot of extreme leftist thought comes from the Jewish intellectual community. There are also a lot of Jewish Supermacists that openly hate Europeans and view leftist policies as a way to destroy both the European people and culture while at the same time fanatically maintaining their own via the most extreme measures imaginable.
"...minorities who are naturally drawn to socialism"
Yes. I think that this is a valid observation. Rebut it if you will please...
Do you think the poorly educated peasants that Mexico and Central America send our way from their socialist/fascist systems really have a grasp of rule of law, property rights, subsidiarity, and limited government? Don't lie.
No, they are culturally predisposed to socialism. That's why countries like Mexico and Nigeria are so efficient, productive and hotbeds of innovation. (Or is it more realistic that they are hotbeds of corruption and cronyism-and the origin of the term kleptocracy)
Socialism/collectivism is a virus that is at its strongest in the weakest among us.
The appeal for something for nothing is strong with those who have little to lose and much to gain.
It is also strong in many at the top as they understand that this love of something for nothing is the primary driver that creates their opportunities for more wealth accumulation.
This fever drives the weakest into actions that make it weaker still, poorer still.
We are watching the end cycle of this virus. The brain is in feverish delirium while the body convulses and collapses.
I once in both humor and frustration stated that "Socialism is for losers and wannabee autocrats." As I thought more about it, I decided there was more truth in that than I first thought. Those are the two groups most attracted to it.
It then makes sense that leftists first convince us all that we are losers, one inch away from being losers and in constant danger of losing unless we let "them" the good guys control those nebulous others who will make us losers. We must give the leftists more power to prevent or rectify that.
Funny thing is that when we give them lots of power the entire country becomes losers.
Niggers are genetically drawn to "muh dikk" and anything free, yes!
Why does no one ever speak out about the group that bought up all of the housing that was abandoned during the first Fair Housing white flight, and the fact that they still own, and profit from, what are now blighted slums today?
You can be first. But don't say jews.
Whoa Dammit,
Engineer a crash whether it is the Great Depression, the Fair Housing Act, or the 2008 housing bubble, and rich elites of all stripes and their buds will swoop in and buy up real estate for pennies on the dollar.
Anytime the economy sours or there is a war, look for the ones on the sidelines with that "mule eating briars grin." Those are the folks playing and planning the long game, and all that money that that 90% lost went in the pockets of the 1%. Rinse and repeat a couple of times until 99% are serfs.
What a crock of shit.
The rednecks who think they should turn their back on social programs to resist "authoritarianism" are stepping right into the global corporatist plutocratic trap. They vote against their own self interest when they vote against taxing the rich more to support the majority of citizen's basic needs like health care, education and food. When your taxes go to these things instead of the bogus "War on Terror", its easier to see the value of paying them. The "self reliance" meme serves the corporate masters well as people are willing to work for less than a living wage as inequality expands.
Hum. I wonder who the "dependency" meme serves.
So far it's destroyed cities and kept entire populations in slavery. Keep peddling it and goosestepping to your true masters, cog. We elitists who tell others the same thing you just did need to remain in control. We couldn't survive with too many "self reliant" people.
The "rich", the wealthy actually, are not net tax payers. They are net tax beneficaries. The only people being taxed to pay for social programs are the middle class and some new rich like NBA players who aren't part of the club.Furthermore many social programs are a way of driving down wages. Those who get the government checks can afford to bid their labor lower. The price of labor is driven down and the middle class tax payers pay what should be business costs of large corporations.
"Those who get the government checks can afford to bid their labor lower. The price of labor is driven down and the middle class tax payers pay what should be business costs of large corporations."
WTF?! Econo-babble from some Junior College Economics 'professor' who has never faced real-world work in his life.
Apparently you have never actually attempted to hire a current day welfare recipient. We pay $23 per hour for local, non-union, untrained drivers (that we train), ony to have them walk off after the first day because they realize they get MUCH more in benefits and don't acutally "have to get up early to go to work" (to quote quite a few of them).
There is no need, desire, or ethic, to work when it's so much easier to accept the hand-outs and sit in front of a TV all day instead of getting up early, get sweaty during the day and actually DO things.
And this is welfare recipients of all races, colors, ethnicities...if they're on a hand-out, that's where they want to stay in today's world. Any other thought is complete bullshit.
Well said.
hence ... "[dependency has] destroyed cities and kept entire populations in slavery"
Makes you wonder what will happen when the money runs out..
Or, maybe it'll be a repeat of what my in-laws went through during the Cultural Revolution. Great Grandma had a decent amount of property until the Red Guard took her to the courthouse and declared her and the other landowners to be the cause of all human ills. Former workers feasted on the looted wealth for a year or so, and then famines followed because there was no more wealth to take. The official response was to beat the drums harder and bust a few heads if people complained too loudly about the quotas.
Trading up a job for slavery didn't turn out to be such a great move.
@ oldphart :
in the 1970, WE all wanted to delete harrassing jobs, repetitive tasks, etc... technical progress were oriented to make easy life. we all planned " in 2000 we will no longer have to work, machines will do the jobs "
arrived totday, what we encounter is what was expected, jobs, in general, are fading... we didn't lost productivity, we gained productivity, but humans transfered the tasks to the machines, who replace 'em.
problem, in global form, is, human have a life to live, not a life of work, but he works to live.
a machine have no hollidays, no resting time, it can works h24.
problem is, in capitalist world, the companies do not transfer event a small part of the % of productivity that the machine created to the human that has been replaced....
what do you conclude in the end of this decade and in the end of the others, when technologies will have filled the gap between factory basic robot programming and very unique skill task like a robot able to fully cut a beef from the killing to the boxing...
you do realize what is coming ?
Ask why workers do not buy the productive technology. They spend their earnings on crap, smart phones, wheels, HBO, but very very few actually "invest".
How do you think most small businesses get started? Winning the lotto? Most sacrifice their consumptive desires to invest in a business that typically eats far more than it rewards for significant periods off time. After 40 years of watching this in action I have no pity for those who believe in the rewards for coasting. I do not suggest they are lesser than anyone else. It is a choice. But when they attack me because I have invested and ultimately profited, I call bullshit.
Human productivity has seen significant gains, but it is not the worker's productivity that has increased but the business's productivity as it was the business that invested in the technology, not the employee. On top of that, if the employee has any motivation at all, they demand that the employer pay for their training, and if successful, that they be rewarded.
The whole notion is bullshit. People buying into the notion that they are entitled to some living standard, that they should be held harmless from the personal choices, be it to work at a job as dead weight to be forced into motion by their employer, or pissing away their earnings on crap to fill some fictional hole in their life, or simply buying cheap imported crap rather than the production of their neighbor while being shocked and amazed that their nonproductive job has been eliminated.
Do you realize what we have done to ourselves? Voluntary slavery. We sold ourselves for a lie of something for nothing.
The free shit train makes it way too comfortable to ever want to get off.
Why is it that water, and air never included among the basic human needs cited by you central planners? Who are you to speak on behalf of another individuals' self interests?
Have you ever considered that dependence is slavery, house nigger?
Yo,
Dem whiteys gonna be payin for Jizzy J's offal while he be slangin rock.
Dat's egali-wha da fuck.
I would *almost* agree with that ...... if it were even remotely true. The FACT is that the rich write the tax laws, so to think that they're going to tax themselves due to some kind of imaginary social contract or as an investment in the future is sheer lunacy. The only people that end up paying more taxes (as a real percentage of their income) are the people who can't afford to drop $100K per year on some tax lawyer to help them "restructure" around the tax laws - i.e. the middle class. State-forced equality just puts everyone on the same (shitty) footing - dependency. It escapes me how someone can look at the "egalitarian utopia" of Detroit and not see the unmitigated disaster that "forced-equality" created. Additionally, those tax funds - stolen under threat of violence - are distributed by bureacrats who have no moral or ethical problem using that money to buy votes or fatten up cronies. Why is it that Statists can't see that the average politician or bureacrat is not some kind of superior intellect - and are usually dramatically *inferior* to the average person who has to work for a living. It's like handing money to a crack addict and expecting him/her to pay the rent and go to the store to buy some healthy food - they're going to buy what THEY want and screw the greater good.
I believe in charity - I tithe regularly - but *I* want to determine where my donations go - not some fat pasty pedophile with a cheap suit and a greasy comb-over.
Hear hear spooz
Workers Unite!
But what if workers really don't want to work?
Shall we call it "Moochers Unite"?
Its not that they are not willing to go to work, they just don't want it to BE work. They want jobs where there contribute by their very presence, where they are not faced with demands and pressures, and virtually NO responsibility, yet most deservedly share in any proceeds, real or imagined, of their employer.
What if they simply want a socially accepted quality of life that can only be funded through the expropriation of the labors and innovations of others.
Seems fair, no?
Your goal is to keep the underclass at a subsistence level
The goal is to keep EVERYONE dependent upon acknowledged corruption. At that point we know there is no rational point in demanding justice, like a member of the mob calling the cops after being assaulted.
"Affirmatively Destroying America's Neighborhoods In The War On Suburbia"
I could pull you into a an alley and try to rape you. Are you going to let me?
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
Nowhere to run to, baby
Nowhere to hide...
AK, AR, Glock and I are not running or hiding.
See you on the battlefield.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
We are preparing firing positions though.
Tattoo them white frogs and slowly bring them up to cooking temperature. It's what's for dinner.
"Today’s democratic globalists make the communists and the Nazis look like amateur totalitarians."
Of course they do. The same democratic globalists are the same Jews that slaughtered 60 million russians in cold blood.
To all of you goyim out there, watch what you say. They (Bolsheviks) were effective because of their meticulous record keeping abiltiies. Now they have the power of cloud computing on their smart phones.
THEY ARE WATCHING.
THEY WILL COME FOR YOU.
THEY WILL TORTURE AND MURDER YOUR LOVED ONES IN FRONT OF YOU.
Heed my words as a warning, not me talking down to you because of my ashkenazi superiority.
GOOD LUCK!
Actually, it was the Nazis, not the Bolsheviks, who had great records - courtesy of IBM, in part. The Nazis were evil bastards who had their shit together, which made them even more grotesquely evil. The Bolsheviks revolted in a giant serf farm which barely had running water. Certainly in the wake of Stalin the USSR developed highly organized and effective tracking. But, out of the gate they didn't have shit.
Plus, WTF are you talking about Jews killing 60M people? When was this? Are you referring to the Holocaust? Because in that one Jews were the victims.
Or are you not calling out the Nazis because you are one?
60M people died in the Soviet Union under Stalin's watch.
The Holocaust wasn't a real thing. There's no evidence and even the museum at what was supposedly the worst camp during WW2 has been proven to be a fraud. Auschwitz. They later went on to change the story and say that all of the death camps happened only in Eastern Europe. It's all bullshit dude. All of the so called "official" reports came from a sham of a trial and the USSR, which was known to be a notoriously dishonest regime. Communists actively lie to win arguments and create support.
Obviously you don't care about the truth or honesty using the NAZI term as a pejorative though. So you must be a communist or other sort of socialist then..
I call bull shit on revisionist history. I had an Uncle, Frank Young who was a tank commander in WW II. He drove up to Buchenwald. He said you could smell the stench for miles. The bodies were stacked up like cord wood. The genocide was real.
I suspect that Lenin and Trotsky had their genocide under Uncle Joe. The only difference was that Russia did not get invaded by the western media.
The internet has given us a massive amount of "data" from which to select, building a "factual" basis that supports whatever we want to believe. It works on every level, from the free shit army grunt to the emperor.
It is amazing to watch so many "cynics" who lack any cynicism at all in their own "beliefs". Like every tyrant in history, they are absolute in their beliefs.
My grandfather entered one of the camps and said the same. But..
People in the camps died of starvation, along with a lot of the civilian German population after the Allied bombing campaign destroyed supply chains.
No homicidal gas chambers. No mass extermination orders. That's the Holohoax part of the story.
+1. Right about the Holohoax.
Typhus, starvation, overwork, a supply system devastated by allied bombing. Lots of dead bodies. But no gas chambers. It was a hoax.
Duplicate
Holodomor - google it.
Then look up who the bolsheviks were (hint: most were "tribesmen").
Go ahead, learn something.
ive read elsewhere that the Jews killed off 60 million Christians in Russia....but nobody makes movies and endless tv shows devoted to their 'plight'
I'll bet you read that on the internet.
It's time to take a break from reading Zero Hedge everyday-this article is crap.
Tyler, shut it down, come back when it's over, there is nothing left to say.
The batshit crazy right wing populists ran off anyone with a brain a year or so ago. That's why I barely post anymore. Your idea is good. It's time to stop visiting ZH and vote with my clicks.
You kow the way out, don't worry about us either.
It is obvious to me that anyone who does not agree is batshit crazy.
Those who are insecure with their beliefs are the first to demand the silence of their opposition.
We watch as people who express their opinions that conflict with popular consensus as presented by the media are not debated or argued with, but attacked on the most personal level, their character, their sex life, their finances. Destroy the messenger to destroy the message.
As the left often tells us...the debate is over. Telling us to disagree is to demonstrate ignorance and stupidity, and further constitutes a threat to the consensus, to the artificial harmony that they have worked so hard to produce. A threat which must be eliminated at all costs. Our liberties, the constitution, LAW, JUSTICE, all are secondary to maintaining the consensus, the illusion.
Oldwood, well done sir. The left will crush opposition they have never been able to actually defend their ideology using a chain of logical thought that stands up to basic scrutiny, he who disagrees and can cite history and examples of failed societies that practiced their merit less system are just bat shit crazy. Batten the hatches down because they must be resisted in other ways.
Dude, Tyler cannot time the collapse. No one can. He (They) do a great job of reporting / expoing the collapse.
Place blame where the blame belongs. We are all impatient. Don't blame the messaeger. Prepare to doll out consequences to the heads of Media and Banks.
Encourage Tyler(s) to keep the fire burning. Cause who else is?
Someone killed a lion.
You can kill baby's here but you can't kill stray cats
Depends on the demographics. 7 billion humans, means that there isn't exactly a shortage of them, that's for sure. The big problem is the declining birthrate of. e people that count.
That was a nice Two Minutes Hate this morning about the Lion slayer. There wasn't a single other story out of Zimbabwe to be enraged about. This thing put them back into play.
Excellent point, especially when you consider their head of State, who has reportedly slain many PEOPLE, yet get fed a wafer from the Pope (I've seen the picture, y'all!)
Actually, I don't know who the hell to believe. If the money trail leads back to the guy doing something elusive and paying off the others, then of course he should be shipped in a 3'x3'x3' crate to North Korea's labor camps. I've heard the other side and have a harder time believing he's a Saint in all this.
Good, lions eat herbivores, I love herbivores they taste great next to mashed potatoes..
The solution is growing clearer every day.
OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!
I am so tired of reading "the solution is government" in one form or other. The author correctly describes the approach of most authoritarians, but then says "local government is the solution".
Humans are soooooo finished.
To have a chance to solve the problem, one must correctly identify the fundamental problem. What is that?
#1: predators versus producers.
#2: authority is a fiction.
Nobody has ever stated how ANY human being can become "authority" over ANY another human being. And nobody ever will, because doing so is inherently impossible. In fact, this second meaning of "authority" is inherently a fiction.
That's all one needs to know to formulate a solution or plan. Think back to ancient times. When dangerous, vicious predators are a problem, what to do? Simple. Exterminate them, build an impenetrable barrier, or leave the area and go somewhere without dangerous predators.
No other solutions are possible.
Approximately all [non-financial] articles in ZH, and virtually all articles everywhere else are completely worthless and counterproductive. They only serve to further confuse producers, and misdirect them from identifying and choosing one of the three viable options.
"Nobody has ever stated how ANY human being can become 'authority' over ANY another human being."
How to become an authority over another human being? That's easy. If I have a gun to your head, I am your authority. You can complain all you like about how I have no moral right to be your authority. Meaningless, because you see, I have a gun to your head.
THAT IS NOT AUTHORITY.
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Both you and RM now define "authority" to be an exact synonym for "predator".
Perhaps we need to create a third meaning for "authority", because that is NOT the meaning of "authority". However, I am beginning to realize how vastly far insane most humans have become.
#1: authority - someone who knows much about a specific topic (derived from "author").
#2: authority - someone who has an ethical basis to tell others what to do and what not to do, and kill you if you do not obey.
#3: authority - someone who can force you to obey them (your new definition).
The second definition is fiction. As I said previously, no ethical way exists for ANY human being to have or acquire authority over ANY other.
The third defintion is just STUPID.
That so many humans apparently believe the meaning of "authority" is the third one above simply proves how completely insane the predators-that-be have managed to drive normal people.
When you are walking down the street, and a pack of predatory thugs jam guns into your head and demand your purse or wallet, they do NOT have any "authority" to do so, and are not your "authorities". To claim they are is to absolutely side with the predators-that-be, and become one yourself.
Hey Ann, I managed to teach my wife to ride a Harley. It takes a lot of patience and she is still learning. All this from a woman who was terrified of even riding passenger all the way to a very cool piece of iron on her own. Without me. Now she knows a form of freedom but if you fuck up it's over.
I hope you are well Ann.
Bike blood is still the best THE FABULOUS POODLES/THINK PINK/19??
Of course you know which famous Canadian learned to ride a motorbike. Right? (hint: he's in a RUSH)
Congrats! Tell her to be careful. Obviously she has longer legs and worse hearing than me if she can ride a harley. Hahaha!
See my post elsewhere for more about motorcycles.
#4 Power gives you direct authority over the immediate situation for as long as you hold that power.
That gun is power over your life, it grants the holder and the person in authority of it's holder, POWER.
POWER != AUTHORITY.
Power and authority are different.
To be sure, they often occur together, in the same situation. But they are different. To treat them as the same is to assure you and virtually everyone else will forever be slaves to human predators.
I see your point, but have you considered the fact that we start out as helpless infants needing the care and protection of (what seem to us then) all-powerful parents? I think the syndrome of attitudes and habits engendered thereby go a considerable way to helping to understand the problem of authority.