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China Demonstrates "Sea Combat Ability" With Live Fire Drill Video
With China laser focused on propping up its manipulated markets, which over the course of the past month have become the laughing stock of "skeptics" everywhere for exposing just how rigged everything truly is (even as CNBC debates whether it is better to manipulate stocks via central bank QE or, as China is doing it, via direct buying of stocks), it is worth recalling that over the past year China has seen another, just a troublesome situation developing in the form of numerous territorial conflicts in the East and South China Seas primarily due to geopolitical bragging rights and natural resource claims.
As previously reported, China is currently pursuing a rapid program of artificial island construction in the South China Sea, despite being locked in disputes with several countries over its claims to almost the entire area.
And yet, even with Beijing focused on halting the market (and economic) carnage in recent weeks, the politburo found a way to remind its neighbors that China has no intention of allowing its domestic financial volatility derail its territorial expansion. It did so as part of a 10 day maritime training exercise which started last week, which culminating overnight when China’s navy carried out a "live firing drill" in the South China Sea to improve its maritime combat ability, state media has reported as tensions flare over the disputed waters.
According to the Guardian, the exercise on Tuesday involved at least 100 naval vessels, dozens of aircraft, missile launch battalions of the Second Artillery Corps and information warfare troops, Xinhua news agency said, citing navy sources.
It added that dozens of missiles and torpedoes, as well as thousands of shells and jamming bombs, were fired during the drill, which tested the navy’s air defense and early warning system. It also “improved its ability to react quickly”, Xinhua said.
China has rapidly expanded its navy in recent years, commissioning its first aircraft carrier in 2012 and adding to its submarine and surface fleets.
This is happening after last week Japan slammed Beijing’s bid to reclaim land there as a “coercive attempt” to make sweeping maritime claims that come as Tokyo is expanding the role of its own military. Ironically for the Abe cabinet, which indirectly asserts that its military expansion mandate is in response to threats from potential local foes (i.e., China), its recent resurgence in military ambitions resulted in Abe's cabinet recording its first majority disapproval rating of its tenure.
Unlike largely pacifist Japan, in China increasing militarism merely leads to a boost in "rally around the flag" morale, and greater patriotic support for the government.
Which is probably also why China was eager to release at least one clip showcasing its latest naval "live fire" military capabilities, as shown on the recording below.
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Asians can't drive.
Well, if they can't drive, Americans can't build jet fighters, alla F-35.
Here's the real story on China that EVERYONE is missing - much more important
Chinese Factory Worker Can't Believe The Shit He Makes For Americans"Chen, 23, who has worked as an injection-mold operator at the factory since it opened in 1996"...
Uh... Forget it...
The Onion
The onion should intersperse real onion-esque stories with their original content just to make it a bit more interesting.
Circa 1990?
Lithuanians can't park
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHcyrNMdtRM
Kerrrrunch
60 hours for about 21 dollar equivalent. We have a long way to fall before the global economy normalizes... oh yeah... Uh... Forget it... Get a can of beer and wait for then next game... USA USA USA... Ukfing Ceptional!
Why not?
Child Labor Joke inserted there...
Must be military designers are just born that way. Seems all these systems look exactly like OUR systems.
I was kinda disappointed. I was looking forward to some Kenny Loggins like when they debuted their J-10 fighter.
Highway to the Danger Zone.................................
pods
China's lead weapons designer was educated in America, MIT I believe it was, his name -- Wi Bang Bang.
Xhi No Bang
Well no fucking wonder tall their shit looks like ours. (And not any Russian or European, but USofA's) Billy (Pull My Bent Finger) Jeff sold all the blueprints and source codes to them for Campaign Contributions, remember?
Over there it's Kenny Roggins.
Sorry, couldn't help it.
I thought the exact same thing (except for Kenny)... must be the pinnacle of advancement in these high tech systems (in blueprint copying tech).
The Huffington Post, of all places, has an interesting video of a Russian Mig-29 taking off vertically like a rocket.
Looney
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/07/28/mig-29-fighter-jet-pulls-off-...
His catalytic converters obviously aren't functioning properly... Some of those Russian designs are simply Bad-Ass, no two ways about it, not to mention they are gritty machines that can land in near anything and take a lot of abuse.
They can actually go vertical as soon as they get control stability. They usually wait until they get some alt to save the runway. Afterburners have a way of melting pavement when they are too close.
pods
That was an extra radical maneuver. I have seen a number of US Navy pilots exit North Island Naval Air Station in a similar maneuver. Going vertical right over the harbor and straight up into the clouds. Not sure if that is approved, but I have seen it, as I spent a year just across the harbor at the ASW School. If I had to rate the radical rating for the two. Russia scores a 10, The US Navy scores an 8. In all fairness, the Russian was more vertical and much faster that USN Jets going off North Island. Still, it was a sight I never forget.
Here's another longer view of the MiG. At about 4:20 the pilot pulls similar moves with the undercarriage down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrHlJmJibOs
That HuffPo should find that of any interest shows how behind the times and clueless they are. First, it didn't take off vertically. It took off then climbed vertically. Second, there were experimental vertical-take-off planes developed during WW II, and the US had several prototypes in the 1950s. BFD.
Meh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=16&v=BP99FI_p8Zs
Meh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaA7kPfC5Hk
in 1955....
Real vertical takeoff F-35... http://breakingdefense.com/2013/05/marines-f-35b-executes-first-vertical-takeoff-straight-up-cool-but/
When I do say USA USA USA! I love planes of all kinds.
Hahaha!! I'm picturing a bunch of ships pulled over to the side of the ocean and a group of confused-looking chink admirals exchanging insurance info.
I think that was their entire South China Sea Fleet.
Now it is back to reef bulding and territorial expansion for the peasants and booze and broads for the Party big shots.
It's good to be a member in good standing.
Oh, and polish up the hardware while your at it...
China does not need a Navy. Send your land troops in and your armed forces will be extinguished in a day.
Our Amish Army would never think about taking on China. So we increased our trade with them almost 1000% over the last 10 years. You think the furniture in our store is made in Pennsylvania? Wrong.
China does not need a Navy.
I think Admiral Wu Shengli, PLA-N would disagree.
Just another in a decades long list of carefully scripted demonstations of military awesomeness. The problem, and the one the American military has forgotten about too, is that in the real world the enemy is shooting back, that's why he's called the enemy. No matter how many shiny toys a military has, it always comes down to some tired, dirty grunt, fighting for his life......
Asians cannot be bothered to follow traffic rules in a blind fashion like the sheep in other countries, they are more creative in their interpretation.
It has the appearance of chaos to others who fit into the category of sheep.
If all this capability is around, why is the USA the only policeman? Projection of force is the factor that matters for global dominance, outside of nuclear arsenals, that is.
Can those ships hold the stock market from sinking :)
The US spends more on its military than what the NEXT 10 countries combined spend on their military.
But-but-but... We're spreading Freedom & Democracy man...
It is a good thing when we actually do that, no? Let's not lose sight of that.
Yep. And, still can't win a War against third, fourth or even fifth world countries.
Yeah, but we're REALLY good at killing people.
We're No. 1! We're No. 1! We're No. 1!
That may be, but in deaths-per-dollar spent we have to be dead last. There's gonna be some place in Africa leading in that category most years. Edged weapons, ropes, used tires, fists, clubs, stones, the occasional shopping bag job. Cheap cheap.
Contrast to Team America with our multi million dollar drones controlled by dedicated satellite links using $100,000 a pop and higher missiles to grease people two or three at a pop, with a dozen salaried people on staff for every HK airborn.
Hell even when we go old school boots on the ground we clear places like Fallujah house to house. The Russians just surround places like that with artillery and rubble them and bounce the rubble some more.
Yeah, but if you're spending $300 for a toilet seat, $15 for a bolt etc.., then the inefficiencies built in through corporate welfare dilute what is truly gained.
However, I recognize that jobs rely on the inefficiencies, but it doesn't make it any more digestible.
They acknowledged losing $2.3 Trillion, yes with a T, on 9-10-01 just to serve as a dinner bell for the private contracting feast to come.
Remember how everybody rose up in anger and disgust over this revelation? Yeah, well me neither. If China spends their funds efficiently, then their
true budget could be larger than ours.
You mean that 2.3 million which the Pentagrams accounting dept. was "accounting" for which was coincidentally hit with a missle on 911. That 2.3 Million.?
I'll go back and watch the video, but I thought Rumsfeld said trillion, hell 2.3 million is a friggin' rounding error.
https://youtu.be/xU4GdHLUHwU As I was thinking, trillions. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-war-on-waste/
Type-O. It was & still is 2.3 Trillion.
Affirmative.
Does the loss of that money really surprise you? Progressives have been firmly in charge now for quite some time.
Look how they rule Baltimore and Philly, now imagine the Pentagon under progressive control. You see now?
The progressive stupid, it burns.
Grimaldus
I'll agree that liberal/progressives are wasteful- in terms of social welfare, but I'll disagree about MIC corporate welfare; that I think is the bailiwick of the right.
Everybody's got to have a pie to stick a finger in and pull out a plum.
The money for the secret space program has to be funnelled out of somewhere. You can't exactly ask Congress for it.
I believe that number is closer to the next 25, but I haven't seen the updated list.
Not sarcasm.
This is a prelude to war, China is a wounded animal right now. They value pride, perhaps too much.
They would get hammered in a war.
China's Navy LMAO, brought to you by the same people who make toys that last a week if you're lucky.
Once upon a time China was actually a maritime power. That, however, was hundreds of years ago.
I wonder how the Russian admirals in the early 1900s felt when sending their fleet to the Far East to fight Japan. Did they thing "Japanese Navy LMAO?"
As for them making "toys that last a week if you're lucky", be aware that in the early 1950s "made in Japan" was a term of derision. Things change. By the mid-1970s "made in Detroit" was a term of derision.
Maybe China has borrowed Detroit's 'planned obsolescence'.
CHina is not the same culture of Japan...
I buy thousands of products from China. In many cases the quality is indistinguishable from American made. Sure, its hard to find a source, and you have to pay extra, but it's available. Even if it isn't, you can have it made to your design to any quality level you want. Again, you have to pay for it.
Reason walmart stuff is crap is because they pay the absolute rock bottom price. You get what you pay for.
Made in China. Shortly after these videos were taken these naval vessels began to fall apart in the water. Then father got pissed and threw the whole damn thing in the garbage.
"Made in China. Shortly after these videos were taken these naval vessels began to fall apart in the water".
Made In China... just look at their art and crafts. The perfection of what they produced even as early as the 2nd century before Christ was such that today, no American could dream of getting to the same degree without a machine.
Don't mistake the garbage the Chinese make for YOUR use with what they can really do. These dudes have always been perfectionists.
On the other hand, what can one expect from a guy called "Eastwood"?
Like the Japanese vessels of WWII? As FDR's cartoon stooge Popeye said; you're a sap sap sap Mr Jap.
is their navy made with plastic and lead paint?
Seems the AA guns look very similar to the Amerikan design. Wonder how that could happen.
Just how different is one gun turret from another? All artillery tubes are pretty much the same.
Try this - compare Chinese 304 or 316 steel to Japanese, German or American material. Not the same, trust me. Not even close.
Armament is made from parts. How and what those parts are made is very important. China doesn't cut it for mass production of high grade miltary hardware. Russia is not that far behind.
Naval Vessals & Carriers are outdated & most vulnerable. Hence, submarines would have a field day. Like shooting fish in a barrel.
If they can get past the Sonobuoys, MADs, and the Drones.
So basically we see a promotional video from RT about China's naval capabilities, which involve shooting guns, launching rockets, and driving ships around. Impressive. I didn't know they could do that.
It's the surface to air missles that lead, doesn't matter what a jet can do, when 15 mach 6 missles come at you, you're dead. Been happening since John McCain took a powder in the Vietnam war. Manned jets are no match for missles
beachhead west coast training
Ret the bodies hit the froor
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As a former military guy, I can't really understand why everyone here is bashing the Chinese military. We've actually fought the Chinese in Korea and that was a stalemate. What they lack in hardware and capability, they make up for in sheer numbers. I spoke with a Korean War vet who told me the Manchurians were fierce warriors. Something also to consider is we really haven't had a war with anyone of the caliber of the Chinese since Germany in WW2 and thankfully the Russians were drawing them into defeat. We are used to fighting guerillas - not trained standing armies. Don't get me started on the Russians either. We have no idea how we would fare in a confrontation with them. My thoughts are it would get ugly quick. They have very competent troops, planes and hardware. We have the F35 boondoggle that some say is a far inferior fighter to even an F16. I hope that we never actually have to fight these guys because I fear we would take a beating and someone would take it nuclear quickly. Scary times. Best to get the warmongers like McCain out of office to save our future.
I truly doubt anyone has an accurate perception of what a war between two major powers would be like. If nukes were excluded, the US is toast because our land forces are pathetically small compared to China, for instance. I'm not sure what the size of the Red Army - or whatever they call themselves these days - but they would probably be fighting with much shorter supply lines then the US would be. If tactical nukes enter the picture then any use of massed arimies is futile, I would think. Then consider the lack of success the PLA has had against adversaries such as Vietnam and India. (Conquering Tibet doesn't count.) And the stalemate in Korea, even earlier, was the result of a political decision made by Truman.
Lots of smart people may have gamed future wars to the nth degree, but I seriously doubt they have any idea what would really happen if the US and China got started in a war.
The shear size of these countries would make the task of war within their nations impossible. Territorial disputes are likely where we would likely have confrontation. That's the whole point of the exercise- demonstrate to us that they are capable and don't mess with them in the South China sea. I have heard they have an anti-ship missle that we would be incapable of defending against.
And I'm sure if they gamed the Russo-Finnish war of 1940 Finland would lose in three days.
Interesting thought about the Winter War of 1939. With passage of time, new weapons etc, each new war will have a new twist which can not be predicted. Basically, I think the only given at this time is China is unable to project conventional power beyond its local boundaries. But locally, it could be tough sledding for any adversary.
I don't know for certain, as no one does. However, I would guess a land war inside China's borders would be unwinnable for the american military. Too many people, logistics is on the side of china, etc.
I speculate that in a war of any real length, on say the scale of WWII, china would have a slight edge over the US because it has greater industrial capacity. Sure, the american military on paper is far superior, but that's now. What will china have in 3-4 years if they devote all their resources to combat? Who will be able to build replacement hardware faster, the US or China?
Vietnam yes but India?
"Best to get the warmongers like McCain out of office to save our future."
I agree with the principle. Unfortunately, those warmongers and their talking puppets outnumber every politician and MSM shaper of American minds that it would take a catastrophic collapse or civil war to make it happen. After American hegemony is effectively challenged, there would likely be a global oligarchical system even worse to replace it.
A Stalemate that probably won't be repeated.
Team_USA (and friends from the UN) was in a middle of a massive(longest in USA's History) Retreat due to the PLA_CHN rushing the Border as a Counter Attack. IIRC, MacArthur was planning on dropping 5 Nukes around the Peninsula as a response. Without the Inchon Landings and the availablility of JPN, it couldn't have been pulled off.
Even though "We" practice the Inchon Landings year after year (Full Disclosure, My Late Father was in the Korean War, did the Far East Flt Excercises; and I did the Inchon Drills for a couple years myself), I don't think Team_USA will be able to pull it off again.
DPK and CHN should be better prepared.
CHN now has a (Brown Water) Navy(Nuke Boats too); and their Bombers, ASMs(Anti Ship Missiles), and their TBMs(Theater Ballistic Missiles like the D21) have long enough Legs to take on an Amphibious Task Force or two.
It's all a scam. Just another MIC ad. Be scared.
Whoa, Pentagon Influences TV Shows Like 'American Idol'? New Documents Show Scary Collaboration The military is everywhere in our arts and entertainment looking for a way to promote its public relations agenda.Looked lame.
Qoute:The US spends more on its military than what the NEXT 10 countries combined spend on their military.
The US spent to make one F35 the equivalent cost of 10 different countrkes' jets add together.
The US has the most war heros like Mc Cain. he was only captured.
The US spends the most on space rockets. Imported from Russia.
Has the highest paid ranks from Pvt. To General.
Has the highest reitrement pay, expecially combined with disability pay.
Value is more important than price.
"The US spent to make one F35 the equivalent cost of 10 different countrkes' jets add together."
... and they would have been well worth the money if they worked.
militarism
nuff said (about the article writer)
Oh, bang bang bang. Whoopee.
Carbon copies of US designed/built military hardware. Espionage is profitable. Billions spent on R&D, blueprints sold for pennies by traitors.
Did you say, "Pollard"
Fuck you China (and fuck you too, Putin),
I'm not buying your bullshit good cop, bad cop story.
You Chinese told your OWN people to buy gold and then you crashed the gold price in collusion with JPM, CITI, Goldman Sachs and the Fed.
Filthy lying animals you are, you Chinese pieces of shit.
Your military is a house of cards. Your technology is second rate and your people are without conviction, education or balls.
You don't stand a chance with the Japanese, especially the American military. One Jap or American is worth a 100 Chinese pieces of shit on the battle field. Same ratio in case of tanks or planes or ships.
Go fuck yourself with the worthless Treasuries that we screwed you with already.
Fuck you Chinese dogs.
And fuck you Russian banker dick suckers, too.
(Russian women are natural-born professional whores like the Chinese are cocksuckers by birth.)
Perfect example of a tool... No ideas, just boiler plate BS !
Remember even a small nation North Korea can crash the entire system of USA & its allies with its nukes.
China is zillion times stronger than N.Korea.
What you see is only the conventional weapons , dont make a judgement based on these.
I guess a single nuclear bomb on any major US city is enough to crash the economy. What about more?
Fear, learn to live with it.
Establish air superiority, then air supremacy. And then continue the exercises until the Chinese do what they're the very best at, use a truce to build up again. And remind China there is only one thing worse than a nuclear war, and that is losing a nuclear war.
There is no air superiority (much less supremacy) in a world where a top notch SA missile costs just a small fraction from the price of an military airplane. Hell, you can even fire a several mediocre ones and any jet would be toast. US air superiority works only against enemies like Serbia, Libya or Afghanistan. We've been conditioned to believe that our planes can win any war, but it's only a load of crap...
I would love to drive down Wall Street with one of those weapons.
I watched as that large hovercraft (US called LCAC landing craft air cushion) hit the beach and the first guy out carried a large red Chinese
flag. If you shoot him does everyone stop until a new flag bearer arrives or does some wanna-be hero pick it up and yell, "Let's go men,"
This could be good for business, we made a killing in Iraq
Where is the crying Chinese ex-farmer?
I like that guy.
Can ZH do a follow up story?
I guess in the US-Russia-China mash up, it's time to put up, or shut up?
rook, rook its ree day!
Almosty as scary as riding a Chinese elscalator.
Careful they use yankee designs and the results are impressive. You Know They like American designs and they have good copies. Having sailed against these folks I respect their efforts.
MIGs are garbage. The Sukhoi's make them look like fluffers in comparison.
Once the new 'islands' with their airfields are in full operation, China won't need any aircraft carriers. Wasn't that what Macarthur said? The islands with air bases were "unsinkable' carriers. Way to achieve local air superiority fast. It is called the South China Sea for a reason.
Time is coming when all will fall down at the feet of China.