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China Says US "Militarization" Of South China Sea Shows Washington "Wants Nothing Better Than Chaos"
If you follow geopolitics you’re well aware that China has become a magnet for maritime conflict and controversy over the past six or so months.
It all started earlier this year when satellite images showing the construction of what appeared to be a 10,000 foot runway (long enough to accommodate military aircraft) atop a newly constructed island in the contested waters of the South China Sea touched off an international firestorm as the US and its allies accused Beijing of seeking to redraw maritime boundaries and expand its naval capabilities at the expense of regional security.
China vigorously denied the accusations, pointing to the fact that other nations had undertaken similar land reclamation efforts in the Spratlys.
The situation escalated meaningfully when the PLA threatened a US spy plane, prompting Washington to remind Beijing that artillery stationed on "sand castles" would certainly not be enough to deter the US Navy from navigating wherever it chooses whenever it chooses to do so.
The "conflict" subsided briefly after a propaganda campaign by Beijing put a humorous spin on the entire ordeal, but China found itself right back in the spotlight last week after Japan essentially accused it of stealing natural gas by positioning rigs too close to a demarcation line that separates the two countries' exclusive economic zones.
For the latest on China’s seaborne exploits we go to Reuters, who notes that Washington and Beijing are back at each other’s throats over the Spratly issue, only this time it’s China which is accusing the US of militarizing the region. Here’s more:
China's Defence Ministry on Thursday accused the United States of "militarizing" the South China Sea by staging patrols and joint military drills there, ramping up the rhetoric ahead of a key regional security meeting in Malaysia next week.
China has been angered by U.S. navy and air force forays through waters it claims as its own, especially this month, when U.S. Navy Admiral Scott Swift said he joined a routine surveillance flight.
The United States has also stepped up military contacts, including drills, with regional allies such as the Philippines, which also has claims in the South China Sea.
The United States was hyping up the "China threat" and attempting to sow discord between China and other claimant countries, Defence Ministry spokesman Yang Yujun told a news briefing.
"China is extremely concerned at the United States' pushing of the militarization of the South China Sea region," he said.
"What they are doing can't help but make people wonder whether they want nothing better than chaos."
Well yes, one "can’t help but wonder" that about a lot of what Washington does foreign policy wise (especially in the Middle East), although we suspect that this particular issue can be chalked up to a combination of curiosity and the irresistible temptation on the part of the Pentagon to prove to China that no matter what Beijing says, the US will continue to fly, sail, and conduct war games in the region if for no other reason than to spite Xi Jinping.
But the atmosphere isn't completely hostile because as Reuters also notes, China is fine with "certain U.S. officials taking civilian flights over the South China Sea to enjoy its beauty."
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And whats the matter with chaos?
Rubbleize everything
The Chinese will bring order to the world.
But will it be A New World Order?
It's the Chinese order of old, same as its been for thousands of years.
So just after I'm done with one fight I'm gonna want another one right away?
KAOS agents, a complete list,
http://www.wouldyoubelieve.com/kagents.html
Not a chink in the bunch.
Chinese maps show the South China Sea encompassing the entire South Pacific. There's going to be a problem.
"One-party autocracy certainly has its drawbacks. (Edit: lol...and Tommy?) But when it is led by a reasonably enlightened group of people, as China is today, it can also have great advantages. That one party can just impose the politically difficult but critically important policies needed to move a society forward in the 21st century." My boi, Thomas Friedman
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/09/opinion/09friedman.html?_r=0
Oddly (for the "un-elightened") Tommy boi never expands on what those "drawbacks" are.
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You know whats funny as I sit here and look at (my now down 4's) at the top of the thread? That four (so far) would think "order" is the opposite of chaos, its not.
For example, is order "good" when Chi-Com officials print yuan to prop up a stawk mawkit that is clearly failing so Chi-Com government officials and cronies can get out? Carried over to here, is "order" a good thing when the elites apply monetary pressure so they can get out of the NYSE or prop it up artificially...see QE?
Now tell me about your concepts of "order" ;-)
Order-chaos and centralized-distributed control are two different things. In my understanding of things, evolutions cannot thrive in absolute order because deviation from the norm are a necessary ingredient to its success. Centralized control limits those deviations and therefore will always be inferior to a distributed one. Since money is the primary medium of contro in our society, to maximize the benefits of evolution, we should decentralize the creation of money so that evebody can be a bank if they choose to do so, with all of the consequenes associated with such activity.
Not a small task, but not impossible..
The whole concept of "order" being a net positive is completely upside down when it's considered "normal" and "orderly" for government officials (and their cronies) and the people themselves to openly lie, cheat & steal against their neighbors without consequence.
That's not order or normalcy, that is chaos.
And the promoters of this "new world order", this "orderly chaos"...like the ones who junked my opening comment...have no idea what they are actually percieving. We must have order!...lol.
Idiots.
What was that fine line the Joker said...
"You know what I've noticed? Nobody panics when things go "according to plan." Even if the plan is horrifying! If, tomorrow, I tell the press that, like, a gang banger will get shot, or a truckload of soldiers will be blown up, nobody panics, because it's all "part of the plan". But when I say that one little old mayor will die, well then everyone loses their minds!"
...we have people who OPENLY engage in and promote the interference of...central banks in the market, that is to say, print money and throw it into a burning marketplace.
For what? So officials and cronies can unwind their positions? The positions they aquired through patronage, bribery and theft? To provide "liquidity" to a farce of a free market in an "orderly fashion"?
It's fucking hysterical..."order"...lol.
"nmewn" you are always right on the mark, you seem to have understandings of things well beyond many typical posters. The more I read and become informed, I find my reality is constantly changing, as new facts and understandings are factored into how I thought the world was.Thanks for your post and the often accompanying links.
That is what people are afraid of. The chinese govt are dangerous. They have lured in all the dumb farmers and taken their money. What next?
You can see the dramatic and devistating losses it has bought people.
This guy..... farmer investor has basically lost his entire lifesaving’s and also his entire family fortune as well.Watch the video here ==> http://www.bit.ly/1fMcakI
silly man! But I am guessing its not the only story we will hear about.
He had good money in hand, not content with good money, he thought easy money could be had, now he is fucked, the men in suits have all his money and he has nothing. Lesson? A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
Is it the result of successful GCHQ/NSA trolling that most comments here completely miss the point?
What is unclear about what the Chinese said? They said that the US seeks to destroy what it cannot dominate. See Irak, Libya, Syria, e.g.
Not that the Chinese are better people but with 900+ military bases abroad, a proven track record of destruction since the early 19th century and perfectionized fascist corporatocracy it is a no brainer to identify the US as winner in the race for the most evil empire by a wide margin.
Hope that helps.
Rubberize everything. There fixed it for you
No one gets hurt in a soft bouncy world
What was that catchy latin phrase? Ordo ab chao... Entropy wins in the end, though.
Yep. "Order Out of Chaos." To user in their NWO wet dream.
Oh, here comes the serial red arrrow warrior! Duck!
I think its more than just your usual stalker, seems like a lot of junk votes on this thread.
It's the Chinese 'hasbawwa.'
That there is someone outside of it controlling it and doing all it can to leave you inside.
I guess this means Chinese Intelligence reads Pepe Escobar's work.
Exactly. Taking it to the logical conclusion, since it takes two to tango and all parties to a compact or altercation are complicit, then we have 2 actors on stage, neither of which is "totally" innocent.
Sounds like they are catching on to the zionist playbook... Zio Order out of Goy Chaos
That is exactly what they want.
My opinion... China, Russia, India, Iran need to get those factories humming... don't play by US timing... let's get this shit started... it's going to come anyway... but BRICS can shake up the US on the matter of timing... US needs specific timing for their own purposes...
Time to beat the zios at their own game....
I am looking forward to the chinese navy patrolling near US waters...
All those idle factories in China can make a shit load of weapons... how many ships, subs, and planes can 1.5 billion people make in a month....
US is gonna be sorry they went down this road....
I think the USA is already sorry they pulled China out of its communist mess at the cost of creating another super power and a mega producer who has closed their factories. I am sure we all remember the mantra that "China will be only a low cost producer and we will be still selling them all the high end stuff."
well blame the zio businessmen who exported all the factory jobs... besides... most mexican jobs in US are there cause americans won't do them...
I always like what you have to say, but I sincerely hope you are kidding about Mexican's only do jobs Americans won't...Mexican immigration is vitally important to the destruction of the American Middle Class. There are millions upon millions of Mexicans here (the majority of Mexicans have come to America after the year 2000, so that gives you an idea of how high the actual migration traffic is), ready to work, problem is they compete with high-school kids who need to learn job skills, and low income and low skill Americans have to compete with the Mexicans as well. This is just the very tip of the iceberg, but as you seem seems to know about the destructive nature of zionism in America, you most likely know zionist organization make open borders their highest priority, dumb down the population. Millions of Mexicans deeply dependent upon government hand outs are going to be the last people to question Washington, its war or its corruption. We are not turning Mexicans into American citizens, Mexicans are turning America into Mexico.
Don't know about anyone else but I for one would be only too happy to see all the land stolen from Mexico in the nineteenth century by the US returned to its original owners, with compensation on top.
http://academic.udayton.edu/race/02rights/guadalu3.htm
Viva los San Patricios!
First of all, what exactly is an "original owner"?
People migrate, land "ownership" is based on one's ability to enforce ownership. The idea that Mexicans did not follow the same rules is ridiculous. Mexico was a terror to indigenous American Indians.
I would totally be for giving huge amounts of land back to the native Americans, but certainly not Mexico.
And as for compensation, what the fuck are you talking about, Mexico's second largest contributor to GDP is remittances sent to there my Mexicans living in America.
Immigration is the greatest destroyer to American middle class.
You're contradicting yourself. You say land ownership is based on one's ability to enforce ownership, and then you cry about Mexican immigrants "destroying" the American middle class. Please excuse me while my heart bleeds for a few minutes ... Be right back!
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There's that's better. Nothing a healthy dose of laughter won't cure!
Mexican immigrants are just enforcing ownership of lands that were Mexican before the US stole them using their usual methods. 1) False flag attacks create 2) an excuse to go in with boots on the ground which culminates in 3) the US taking possession illegally of territories they never had any right to.
Even US generals declared the 19th-century wars against Mexico illegal. So spare me the crocodile tears over Mexicans reclaiming the south-western states by immigration; at least they didn't cook up any old excuse for a war to achieve their ends. If the US middle class, which has stood full square behind America's aggression over the last 200 years, ends up fucked over this then so much the better. There's a whole load of us here in Europe who would be only too happy to see the fuckers get a taste of their own medicine for once, instead of imposing it by force on practically every other continent on Planet Earth.
molon labe muchacho
You see ships, subs, and planes, I see future artificial reefs. Its a win-win.
Big egos inevitably lead to big guns, big plans, big houses, big disputes, big money but funnily enough they still all have little dicks.
Gona be A FITE! Some southern dude. All jokeing aside , what did ya expect? Two, three swinging dicks Gona mix it up soona or lata.
How much ammo and fuel can US store near the china sea? After a week of fighting, they'd be done.... I am sure the base in Japan would be toasted....as well as the one in Korea...
Korea is sure as hell not going to fight agasint China...
All this talk from US must be BS... they would have to be crazy to have a war with Russia and China on their own turf...conventionally it would not last long before US loses...
Who will the US get to fight, conscripts?
Poor ignorant gentiles... same as they always get.
Won't bee us southerners. We are done with those county sized states up north who think they can rule the world. And that drought out west might bring them here , don't do it we are racist etc
They could subcontract it to China.
Wait a minute!
Krugman's "alien invasion".?
PNAC. It didn't end in 2006...
''As a leaked 1992 Pentagon document states: “Our first objective is to prevent the reemergence of a rival that poses a threat on the territory of the former Soviet Union. This is a dominant consideration… and requires that we endeavor to prevent any hostile power from dominating a region whose resources would, under consolidated control, be sufficient to generate global power…Our strategy must now refocus on precluding the emergence of any potential future global competitor.”
A decade after this policy objective, US forces were in Afghanistan, and in 2010, the Obama administration launched its “pivot to Asia” foreign policy initiative, its very name drawn from Mackinder’s Heartland theory.''
http://www.unz.com/article/the-new-great-game-the-west-uyghers-and-china/
It is much better to have the neo cons arrested or suppressed to save humanity. It will save a lot of money, and no war.... we can get rid of fiat and have real sovereign money…
Where is the A team?
This is why China is expected to purchase more US Treasury debt. If they continue, Treasury Secretary Jew Lew will put a chinese women on the new $10 bill.
fat chance of China buying any more of that garbage
if there is another world war... how are chinese going to get to America to occupy it? They will need thousands of ships to transport all those soliders... once they get a beachhead in California, it's game over...
The easiest way for the Chinese to invade America is to ask Mexico for safe passage. The PLA can send hundreds of thousands across the border between Mexico and the US, each claiming that he's merely an undocumented immigrant. Obama will provide them with EBT cards, drivers' licenses, and Medicaid. Far better than a military style invasion, because they wouldn't have to provide their own supplies.
You are thinking in obsolete terms (pre-nuclear weapons terms). If a war against any of the biggies was to happen (USSA, China, Russia), the territory of whoever lost would be left to rot, and turn into some kind of sci-fi nightmare of mutations.
Of course, that's assuming anyone survives.
The USSA is the evil empire.
Enough said.
That doesn't forgive other predators, but needs to be remembered.
I have no problem believing we are stirring up the shit. China was civilized way before being "discovered". Seems when ever we discover a people or culture our next step is exploit. If you look at this from Chinas point of view, possession is 9/10ths of the law. We are too late and too bad, so move on and let it be.
USofA is doomed the best thing Washingoton DC can do now is surrender and stop putting the life of the American people in jeopardy.
--- Americans don't want war with China or Russia, Americans want to live in peace like the rest of the civilized world.
It is difficult to know what "the American people want". For one thing, we all know the vast majority of them don't have the facts, which are required to even formulate an informed opinion or desire.
NATO cannot engage a first strike against the Russian Federation, or China, but China has my permission to nuke the Americans, and so does the Russian Federation. My bias is obvious I know, but I am going long Russian Federation because I'll call first dibs on New York State after they bomb New York Shitty. I figure there is likely to be some good old junkyards left in rural New York State that I want to pick over.
Following video says a lot about the huge differences in the political systems of the two largest powers. Watch this 20-min video to have better grasp.
Eric X. Li: A tale of two political systems - with embedded Bilingual subtitles
https://youtu.be/ebXA1lRqDfM
The rest of the world is taking a big chance by letting the US military be run by banksters.
I think America should vacate Diego Garcia first before asking others about anything:
https://www.intellihub.com/cover-new-reports-claim-u-s-military-shot-fli...
They are shooting down hundreds of civilians and the people involved should be tried & awarded death death sentence, in case Obama had made decision, his Nobel prize should be taken back , should resign , put on trial and face death sentence.
Nuland ex plutonium
In this theory the Lizzy Borden of the State Department stipulates that the Russians have enough nuclear assets to destroy the US, whether they strike first or respond to a US first strike.
But then she goes on to opine -- and this is where her grandfather's tertiary syphilis takes over -- that because neither the Chinese or the Russians would ever start a nuclear exchange, the large American military can back both of those countries into a corner, beggar them, starve them, and line their borders with tens of thousands Patriot missiles.
And the docile Russo-Chinese alliance will put up with whatever atrocities that the Negro and the poxy granddaughter of a syphilitic pimp dole out to them.
Hey, it's worth trying, no?
She is mistaken.
Best not say anything if you enjoy your sexual organ attatched to the rest of your bod.
Chinese are projecting with their artillery islands
I don't see the US building islands in the SCS.