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Donald Trump's Soaring Popularity "Is The Country's Collective Middle Finger To Washington"

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Submitted by Paul Brodsky, via Macro-Allocation.com,

Donald Trump’s ascendance as the early GOP front-runner is symbolic of a greater global trend: growing pushback against institutional political and economic power.

To many centrist politicians and mainstream political observers, Donald Trump is a boastful, insensitive egomaniac spouting populist rhetoric. Whether such a characterization is true is not worthy of debate, which may explain why the rantings of enraged career political pundits have no impact on Mr. Trump’s popularity among Republican voters in Iowa, New Hampshire, and across America. It seems no amount of ink or air time spent tarring and feathering Trump’s reputation sticks; in fact it seems to help Teflon Don in the polls, where he leads a crowded field of career politicians.

Donald Trump is a threat not only to the nattering nabobs in the press corps and the Republican Party. His day in the sun may be symbolic of a broader dynamic: the declining power held by historically powerful institutions. Ask yourself if Trump’s campaign is making a mockery of the political process or exposing the mockery that the political process has become. A not-insignificant percentage of Americans away from the coasts, are looking past his utter lack of decorum and political savvy to hitch their wagons to his outrage.

Let’s forget, for a moment, about our personal politics, preferred policies, and individual candidates we may be excited to elect. Are we supposed to forget that the Supreme Court, through its 2010 decision that corporate donors should be treated legally as individual donors under the First Amendment, effectively subordinated individual voters into mere supporting targets to which political aspirants have to appeal? Most importantly, are we supposed to nod our bobble heads in agreement with the heads of the national parties to choose a candidate they find acceptable based on which will appeal to the best funded special interests?

Is anyone really polling in favor of Donald Trump or is he conveniently filling the role of the not-so-quiet counterfactual?

I recently texted one of the premier Sunday morning political pundits with these thoughts and he texted back:

“That's what I am arguing internally. This is the country's collective middle finger to Washington.”

As an investment strategist and consultant observing our current global economy and markets, it is difficult not to extrapolate this sense of helplessness against powerful institutions. Tell us again why six years of central bank financial repression is serving the interests of the greater factors-of-production? As investors, should we care about widening wealth and income gaps that are clearly part-and-parcel with central bank policies devoted to maintaining asset values (see here and here)?

Should we expect free, democratic markets that create, form and price capital efficiently - not that treat financial assets as balance sheet collateral for credit?

Who can voters elect to again have an economy that puts producers over rentiers, or to have markets that price value? I’m sure it’s not Donald Trump (a rentier’s rentier!), but I’m also sure it’s not the heads of the Democrat and Republican Parties. Who can investors elect to keep the rentier thing going? Is that really what investors should want? It’s complicated.

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Thu, 07/30/2015 - 20:33 | 6373414 Supernova Born
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Fly it high, fly it proud.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 20:34 | 6373419 Ham-bone
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Trump or Elvis or Gandhi...it's all the same.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 20:35 | 6373421 Publicus
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God bless Donald Trump and keep him and his family safe from harm.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 21:12 | 6373551 kchrisc
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The god of the Talmud has blessed him.

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..

 

If only Noor Syed had been a regal lion like "Cecil" was: https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/2009.02...

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 21:17 | 6373564 Took Red Pill
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"Is The Country's Collective Middle Finger To Washington"

I don't think this is anything new. I remember a comedian named Pat Paulson running for president in 1968.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 21:40 | 6373652 38BWD22
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THIS is what you will see at the White House after Trump has finished his first year...:

http://lolsnaps.com/upload_pic/c50f5089-the-white-house-if-donald-trump-...

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 22:02 | 6373715 Al Gophilia
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Yup. Multi-storied government. Trump sure knows how to game the fiat money system, borrowing huge amounts to build an empire. Expect more of the same from him if elected, or any one of them. Its the system, stupid. 

Craven motherfuckers.

Who believes that a new prince will change anything anyhow? 

Oh, yeaah ..... A majority of posters here.

Wither goest thou ZH?

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 22:07 | 6373731 chumbawamba
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He would end up bankrupting the United States again, just like he did all his other businesses.  The board of directors of the US corp will never allow Trump to be the President of it.

I am Chumbawamba.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 22:16 | 6373755 Al Gophilia
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Thu, 07/30/2015 - 22:20 | 6373770 macholatte
Thu, 07/30/2015 - 22:29 | 6373793 Soul Glow
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Quiet night tonight.  People must be counting their silver coins.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 22:52 | 6373842 J S Bach
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If only the plebs knew how they were being duped.

Anything the MSM allows to be be displayed is a sure sign of its ineffectualness.

I know... the replies will be - "THEN WHO?!"

Patience.

Let the game play itself out.  A person of character will eventually emerge.  A silver-spooned billionaire is not the answer.  Liberation will come from without... not from within.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 23:08 | 6373904 Oh regional Indian
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Precisely Bach.

My re-written header for this post would be:

Donald Trump's soaring popularity is "The country's Obvious and collective fall into DUMB SHEEPLEHOOD"...

Very curious, are all the Trump Thumpers here also the same people who were Paulites at that Texan mouse's peak?

Yay, ummerikka...yay....sweet land of misery......

Un-fucking-believable...

https://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/02/16/truth-about-america-truth-ab...

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 02:00 | 6374303 Four chan
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no more adelsons and no more kochs.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 03:30 | 6374424 Oh regional Indian
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No more assholes either? How buot that..

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 05:53 | 6374529 Supernova Born
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"Let the game play itself out.  A person of character will eventually emerge."

OK, Linus.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 13:11 | 6375558 fleur de lis
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Americans are responding to Trump because he is saying what the others dare not. They are controlled one way or another. So is he but to a lesser degree. But if he gets in the real puppeteers will have a chat with him and let him know how things really are.

At least Trump would never attend the weird Bohemian event. Our ruling weirdos just love that swamp. He recognizes that it is a weekend for creeps.  

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 23:14 | 6373920 buzzardsluck
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no shit, its funny this story is right below http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-30/debt-slaves-7-out-10-americans-....

Way too many zhers showing their lack of real understanding despite what they normally say.  They just cant leave the 'voting someone TRULY different in will fix it all' box.  I catch myself in it sometimes, seems hard to get away from after the age of 30.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 01:45 | 6374276 Money Boo Boo
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so TRUE Buzz!!!!

 

everytime, they cough up someone from their bowels that sells the "he'll fix it this time meme" and millions fall for it everytime!!

 

Bread and Circuses,  it always works

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 08:24 | 6374807 sleigher
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I find myself in a different box.  This one: "surely NOW after Obama these Americans will see this is all a sham, there isn't anyone who can fix this."

I can't be the only one...

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 06:29 | 6374563 BitchezGonnaBitch
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Let the game play itself out.  A person of character will eventually emerge.

 

Clearly that is not you then, is it. You're too busy shooting everything down from your fucking ivory tower. How about you pull yourself away from typing up shit on ZH and do some fucking work to change the country?... Nah, too hard. Leave it to Trump, of all people, at least you can bitch about him and wring hands about the collective idiocy of the society.

The system will fix itself. Someone will fix it. Just not this guy, I don't like him. Should be someone like me, but I'm too busy playing the same fucking system that I keep bitching on about. Etc, etc, etc. Nothing new under the sun. 

Now, I don't know you, you're probably a sound enough bloke and I would gladly shake your hand in RL (probably) but please climb down one of them days and don't wipe your mouth with "sheeple" so much - you're one of them, as am I. 

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 07:26 | 6374656 Hail Spode
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That is correct. President will be the last office fixed. It starts when every state has at least one group like this..... http://www.arneighbors.org/

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 07:41 | 6374692 slowimplosion
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I took a look at that site.  The home page is very interesting, I pretty much agree with all of it.  Then you drill in and the dude has to whine about his right to keep gays from marrying being trampled.

 

No fucking thanks, the money men suck but the Christian version of Sharia law?  No fucking thanks.  Nothing run by people so easily distracted by their personal religious beliefs is going to accomplish anything at all.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 23:05 | 6373896 TheRideNeverEnds
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I was actually counting fiat earlier.  Disposed of smaller bills or 'boot money' in exchange for larger cleaner bills.  One hundred dollars in one dollar bills does look more impressive to most people than the equivalent in silver or gold but as I write this I look at the kilo bar of silver I keep on my desk as a paper weight.  I like it, holding it in my hand, the ting it makes when I flick it, the shine, the lack of that dirty money smell.  It is not going anywhere though the mint whose name it bears (Johnson Matthey) has already been liquidated and the miner who dug it up probably went to zero years ago my bar lives on.  

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 23:22 | 6373949 poland spring
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Funny you say that.  My 20 1 oz bars came in the mail today.  So happy.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 00:39 | 6374141 MontgomeryScott
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To the Koch Brothers, and that queerbait faggot Lindsay Graham, you are viewed as a 'racist' for your 'stacking habits'!

HOW DARE YOU?

http://rickwells.us/trump-supporters-are-racists-not-patriotic-americans...

 

Those who keep more than a 3-day supply of food (according to the SPLC-scripted DHS directives) are thought of as 'hoarders' (a 'kinder. gentler  way' of sayng 'RAYCISS').

I have twenty 1-ounce bars of Chocolate as well (I have a 'sweet tooth', you know) (that I'll admit to). I'm SAFE, though, because The Directorate just increased my/our Chocolate ration from 60 grams per day to 420 per week. I seems that I am actually holding a 14-day supply... (28.35 grams in an ounce)...

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 06:35 | 6374569 Fukushima Fricassee
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Nope , bulletts mother fucker.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 22:30 | 6373798 Keyser
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It is well past time that the American people gave Washington the middle-finger salute for their inept colusion against the very people that put them into office in the first place... 

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 22:39 | 6373824 Calmyourself
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As long as Donny tears down the conniving excuse for an opposition party and exposes the rapacious gluttony the Republicans in Washington stand for he can be my hero.  The second he says a negative word toward gun rights, balanced budgets and sound money or any other plank of freedom I will light his pyre myself.

 

He gave  money to Hill and Bill, I know what he is, and I know he is being used in another divide and conquer..  The enemy of my enemy, until its inconvenient. I can play that game too..

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 23:03 | 6373890 Son of Loki
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I'd vote for The Don, if for no other reason to see a classy, beautiful First Lady for a change.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 00:35 | 6374127 Bumpo
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The Donald gave money to Bill and Hillary because he knows how to play the game. He admits it outright, which gives him insider credibility. He comes right out and says this is why the system is broke. You may label him a hypocrite, but he comes right out and admits it. So far, he seems to be be doing his best to tell it like it is. All the others prevaricate to be polititcally acceptable, meaning you don't know what they really think or how they feel. So far, I really just gotta like the guy.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 12:18 | 6375786 detached.amusement
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Yeah but will he tell everyone the contents of the conversation the spooks have with him after he's elected?

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 00:50 | 6374162 MontgomeryScott
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As selected resident of the CONUS, I'd like to rebut your comment.

Anyone who remembers the thrill of 'Star Wars', knows how cute and cuddly The Wookie is (on screen).

She's a really GOOD provider, as well, diktating the meals for ALL the public schools here, in the Land of the Free. In fact, if it wasn't for that pesky amendment to the Constitution after my mentor Roosevelt died, you could have HER (and ME!) for an unprecedented THIRD TERM!

Don't you just LOVE the way her PHAT ASS fits into those Armani pants-suits?

Sincerely,

Barry

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 02:31 | 6374343 Al Gophilia
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.......I'd vote for The Don, if for no other reason to see a classy, beautiful First Lady for a change.

.......... and there it is.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 06:02 | 6374541 847328_3527
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Sounds like a good enuff reason to me.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 08:05 | 6374751 Normalcy Bias
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Yep, unlike the Wookie, there's absolutely no question about that one. Melania is 150% female.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 22:17 | 6373758 38BWD22
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Mr. Wamba

ANYONE who does business with Donald Trump deserves what they get.  He has a long record of screwing bondholders.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 22:22 | 6373760 Supernova Born
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The title of "bankrupter of the US" may be arguable, but it was a title won a long time ago.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 22:21 | 6373771 palmereldritch
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Bankruptcy is their 21st Century end-game (sameasiteverwas) hence the SDR and its incipient global currency.

Can you think of a better ringmaster/lightning rod?

 

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 01:03 | 6374196 Klemens
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Donald Trump makes just a good show. That`s all.
Fri, 07/31/2015 - 02:12 | 6374317 Ace006
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Now tell us Trump's net worth and tell us what a moron he is.

While you're at it, fill us in on how many bankruptcies you think Trump's had, why they happened, and what he did to handle them.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 07:27 | 6374659 Winston Churchill
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You'd be surprised how many barely literate millionaires there are.

I have a billionaire client that appears several planks short of a load.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 18:39 | 6377124 Ace006
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Understood.  However, that's no Trump by any stretch of the indignation.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 07:24 | 6374653 rgetty
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And the ones in charge are doing what ??

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 22:13 | 6373749 palmereldritch
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Has anyone asked him to opine on the merits or history of The Federal Reserve or is he still the hooker with the heart of gold ?

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 21:36 | 6373636 NoDebt
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Regular people across this country are pissed the fuck off.  They're sick of being fucked over for special interests whether that be welfare queens or corporate wefare queens.  Being told that we're just not smart enough to "get it" has never cut it with us.  We know what's being done to us at our own expense.  Doesn't matter how much the MSM propoganzies us, we know the difference between rain and somebody pissing down our backs, no matter how many PhD experts they put up on the screen to tell us we're wrong.  

We keep sending messages to DC as loudly as a voting booths and opinion polls allow.  Deep down we know they're done listening to us and don't care how loud or clear our message.  But it still seves a purpose- let them not be caught unwarned that watering time once again approaches.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 21:41 | 6373657 knukles
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What a joy it will be if the Donald remains active, not marginalized a la RP and excoriates the establishment R's and D's. 
God, would it be fantastic to he him Launch into Hillary on Prime Time debates, belittle the shit out of Bernie Sanders, ask Lizzie Warren about her Cherokee ancestry (Or whatever she claims ... Come on girl, do the rain dance, squat I say, squat squaw!)  This guy is the embodiment of everything most American are thinking but are too Politically Correct to Say!

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 22:04 | 6373724 Al Gophilia
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Not you too????!!!!

We're fucked!!!!

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 02:54 | 6374378 StychoKiller
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"Are you not 'Entertained?'"

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 08:10 | 6374768 Headbanger
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It will be Trump-Sanders

Versus Hillary-Caitlyn

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 04:40 | 6374484 Rogue Trooper
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Al, you don't get it. We are all fucked no matter what.....  there is no getting out of this clusterfuck.

So what the hell, I say GO TRUMP, it will create a more amusement as the cards are dealt and those debates may actually be really entertaining.

The 'angry ones' ranting all over ZH over Trumpism still believe this global state worshipping circle jerk can be turned around.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 05:21 | 6374512 Al Gophilia
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No, I don't believe it will be turned around but I'm not resigned to the fact and ipso facto join them because I can't beat them. It's not good enough to turn a blind eye to evil. I may as well become a Hitlery supporter and encourage or cheer her criminal behaviour as Secretary of State. 

Might just bake her a cake and donate to her campaign, knowing how broke she is.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 22:21 | 6373772 secretargentman
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I'd feel the same way if I really believed he'd do that.

 

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 21:49 | 6373681 kchrisc
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The problem of the country is not "special interests," or "welfare queens," etc., but the unlawful, criminal, and treasonous United States government acting as governors for the plundering and exploiting fifth-element colonizers and occupiers Zion.

"It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle." --Sun Tzu

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..

 

If only he/she had been a regal lion like "Cecil" was: http://thewe.cc/thewe_/images_5/-----/illuminati-system/obama-injuring-c...

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 22:07 | 6373732 NoDebt
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That works, too.  I don't mean to belittle your point, it's just that there are SO many things to be pissed off at the list could go on almost endlessly.

I think the more important point is identifying which straw broke the camel's back.  It wasn't Obamacare or Benghazi.  It might have been when Obama declared himself king with a "phone and a pen" but I doubt that.  Honestly, I think it was when the Rs were swept into office in a landslide in 2014 with a clear mandate to stop Obama and thier first order of business was to declare they would do nothing to oppose the president's actions.  I think that was the point, for the very first time, most "regular people" realized that there wasn't a damned bit of difference between the two parties and both cared only about selling us down the river to enrich and empower themselves.

Personally, I'm twice as pissed off at the Rs as I am at the Ds.  Obama (and the Ds) are just being the community organizer/Socialist we all knew he was.  And we knew the Rs were done supporting conservative/traditional values years ago.  But when you put the opposition party in a power to oppose a president you expect them to at least OPPOSE THE PRESIDENT.  And they failed that test UTTERLY.

 

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 00:26 | 6374114 kchrisc
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No need to apologize, as I probably owe you an apology for spring-boarding off your comment and possibly offending you. If I did offend, I apologize.

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 02:20 | 6374329 Ace006
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>>  very first time, most "regular people" realized that there wasn't a damned bit of difference between the two parties <<

Excellent. That was it for me. Pissed, puzzled, hoping before, sure. But that's when the pieces all just fell into place.  The Rs were just a bunch of lying, conniving, posturing, weak sellouts. QED.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 22:50 | 6373853 Totentänzerlied
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"We keep sending messages to DC as loudly as a voting booths and opinion polls allow."

And yet nothing is magically getting better without any investment, hard work, determination, thrift, privation, planning, austerity, sacrifice, or violence! In-con-cei-va-ble!

Why isn't the universe bowing to our exceptional wills and providing for us every exceptional thing our exceptional hearts desire! We're Americans dammit!

Can you believe the average exceptional American is only 100 times richer than the average non-American and most certainly non-exceptional person? FOR SHAME!

But fear not! All we need do, being the exceptionally exceptional nation chosen to (exceptionally) manifest (our exceptional) destiny in the most exceptionally exceptional way conceivable, is simply choose the right savior at each regularly scheduled election. And maybe get another credit card too, just for good measure.

---

"Being told that we're just not smart enough to "get it" has never cut it with us." Correct, Americans are both entirely too stupid and infinitely too greedy - the most apt description would be "decadent" - to "get it" in any way whatsoever. Reality denial make America great, now it will America nothing.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 23:04 | 6373889 NoDebt
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You missed the part about watering time.  You don't know what that means, do you?

Without catching that reference you will (and did) completely miss the point of the post.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 23:37 | 6374005 rejected
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That tree has been dormant for quite some time and I'm not sure we americans today are strong enough to carry the water.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 00:52 | 6374166 mbutler101
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I think something a little clearer is in order how about a new Night of the Long Knives?

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 06:56 | 6374596 BitchezGonnaBitch
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Totentänzerlied - It's funny cos you're talking shit to the choir. They all get it man, that's why they're even here in the first place. 

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 21:42 | 6373656 ebworthen
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Pat Paulson was great, would have made a better President than anyone in the past 47 years.

Does CONgress never look at their approval numbers? I doubt it, the clowns from both parties are too busy sucking bankster teat to worry about their constituents.

And the Presidential approval ratings are really a delusion rating; 46% think the current puppet whose strings belong to the banks/corporations/insurers and the M.I.C. is going to improve their serfdom?  Completely deluded.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 01:29 | 6374252 MontgomeryScott
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'tis our lot to laugh at our own flaws.

Here's Pat Paulson, in 1988, stumping the trail for Poppy Bush:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsU8_DSmlXY

Well, he set the future trail for Bill Oh'Reilly as well ('just SHUT UP').

 

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 21:44 | 6373662 Redneck Hippy
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"Tell us again why six years of central bank financial repression is serving the interests of the greater factors-of-production?"

Trump voters are protesting the Fed? Please,Mmost Trump voters never heard of the Fed, think that Janet Yellen is a grandmother from Brooklyn.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 22:22 | 6373775 unrulian
Fri, 07/31/2015 - 05:40 | 6374519 The central planners
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Trump is the new $hit!!!

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 21:21 | 6373580 So It Goes
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IMO - Donald would make a great VEEP.  If someone like Ron Paul were prez and Donald Trump was his VP/attack dog - Geez - that might make a real difference.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 22:51 | 6373825 Nostradumbass
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@publicus

"God bless Donald Trump and keep him and his family safe from harm."


Do you think that your repeated prayers to some mythical deity for the protection of Trump and company really matters, actually does anything? I've seen your posts saying this at least three times now and find them laughable.

Prayer is as effective as not praying. Put your energy into working here and now.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 23:09 | 6373906 acetinker
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Nostra, as childish as publicus' pleas appear, I have to disagree;

It is religion that is based in mythology.  The Deity however, is quite real.

Take an honest look around and tell me it ain't so.

The bathwater is filthy- to the point that it's all too easy to overlook the baby within.  Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater, K?

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 23:30 | 6373967 Nostradumbass
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acetinker,

I won't quibble over the existence of some deity/force/un named consciousness etc. which underlies creation and the uncreated. I will maintain my stand that prayer is merely grasping, hoping for things to be as one wants them to be and as such, is rather infantile. Are we to consider ourselves impotent?

Noone knows better than I (for myself) that there is something much greater, deeper, powerful than that which appears to our perceptions. Still, I maintain that hope and faith and belief in something outside of oneself are not really useful in the long run and serve only to keep one in mist-ery - not mystery.

In particular I want to point out that belief is merely this - not knowing. When one says "I believe' as to anything or concept, what one is saying essentially is "I do not know".

It is OK to not know. Be with the unknowing...

 

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 00:06 | 6374084 acetinker
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Nostra, we are on the same page then.  That makes me happy.  I rather like the way Jordan Maxwell phrased it:  "I don't know what God is, but I know what God isn't."

I don't pray.  I think praying is way too presumptuous.  I try to give thanks daily for that which I have and for which I have not, for that which I 'know' and for that which I am ignorant of.  I'll stop now.

May the One we don't know bless and keep us and ours!

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 03:02 | 6374392 StychoKiller
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"Tis the Father's good pleasure to give ye the Kingdom!"

Very few KNOW how to pray effectively, but you're not far off.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 03:00 | 6374387 StychoKiller
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Meh, "Pray, but MOVE YER FEET!"

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 23:26 | 6377824 acetinker
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Why so much hate for the StychoKiller?  We're each and all just makin' our way the best we know how, after all.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 02:35 | 6374349 Al Gophilia
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Circular hopium.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 23:03 | 6373891 Hugh G Rection
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Do you morons actually think Trump is a middle finger to DC?  The guy is another fucking zio insider, Netanyahu ball licker.

 

The fake awake clowns are just as irritating as the MSM watching zombies.

We're fucked

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 23:35 | 6373993 acetinker
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Fake awake.  That's good.  Might even become a meme.

Anyway, let's say you're the UPS guy and a Trump worshipping moron is the FedEx guy, and you're being chased by a big, bad dog from the zio insider complex.

You don't have to outrun the dog- only the FedEx guy.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 23:52 | 6374047 Hugh G Rection
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Pretty sure I coined the phrase a few years back while debating some disinfotards on facebook.  (They were pushing Judy Wood space beam and Fetzer mini nuke crap)

The last POTUS election I was actually clinging to a strand of hope that Ron Paul would pull it off, so I shouldn't blame others for being naive.  I was even ready to give him a pass for failing the 9/11 Truth litmus test.

 

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 00:21 | 6374108 acetinker
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I know.  I even tried to become a delegate so I could vote for RP.  I could tell ya' all about it, but suffice to say, it only became another nail in the coffin of my perception of truth, justice, and the American way.

9/11 is a bridge too far for most.  So, basically it's as you said earlier, we're fucked.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 00:50 | 6374160 Implied Violins
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Don't worry, more and more of us are waking up. Just keep putting the message out there and suck up those red arrows like badges of courage; I have. Simply exposing people to these truths will make a big difference when the SHTF and people go, "AHA!"

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 01:19 | 6374195 Hugh G Rection
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Thanks brother.

Red arrows don't mean shit to me, but my evangelical brother and sister tend to burn my ass.  

It amazes me how the "never turn your back on Israel" dummies can support a group that openly hate their lord and saviour... Even above their own Country.  They repeat Rupert Murdoch horseshit about Muslims and give me a blank stare when I tell them Jesus is the 2nd most quoted prophet in the Quran.  I tell them the Talmud says Jesus is boiling in his own excrement in hell, their eyes glaze over like retards contemplating quantum mechanics.  Israelis caught with truck bombs on 9/11... That's impossible! It would have been on the news!  Oh, it was on the news the day of with no follow up... Derrrrrp.

Lavon Affair, USS Liberty... The fucking asshats still can't get it.

 

Here's my youtube channel and a video I put together of all the evidence I could find on the Mossad front company "Urban Moving" and their truck bombs on 9/11.  I'm still working on a full length documentary, but have been sidetracked with other stuff lately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDqNLrOd_SY

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 02:09 | 6374312 maxwellsdemon
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Want Israeli foreknowledge of 911?  Then check out the Chesed Gomel cemetary incident:

http://www.rense.com/general74/heard.htm

 

In October 2000, approximately 11 months prior to Sept. 11, 2001, a former Israeli Defense Force member and veteran of theYom Kippur War (1973) was collecting English Ivy cuttings at the Gomel Chesed Cemetery located at McCellen and 245 Mount Olive Ave. in Newark, NJ. The Gomel Chesed Cemetery is a 'Jewish' cemetery. While he was scouting the cemetery for ivy cuttings, he overheard what he believed to be a conversation spoken in Hebrew, which drew his attention. Curious, he walked toward the voices until he was close enough to accurately hear the conversation and confirm that it was indeed being spoken in Hebrew.

 
He found himself along a heavily vegetated fence line that sat on top of an eight-foot high retaining wall, which concealed his presence from the men engaged in the conversation. The two men he saw and overheard were casually leaning against the retaining wall beneath him.
 
As he watched and listened, a third man arrived to the meeting in a Lincoln Town Car. He emerged from the rear seat of the car while the driver and another passenger remained in the car. The two men leaning against the wall, upon seeing the arrival of the 3'rd man, changed their relaxed posture into that of attentiveness, signifying respect and the importance or ranking of the person that had just arrived. It was clear that the two men were waiting and expecting the arrival of the third, indicating that the meeting was pre-arranged. What the observer of these happenings heard beneath him after the normal niceties were exchanged between the three men alarmed him.
 
The man who arrived in the Town Car said, "The Americans will learn what it is to live with terrorists after the planes hit the twins in September."
 
One of the men that had been leaning against the retaining wall expressed concerns regarding whether the upcoming presidential election (Nov 2000) between Bush / Cheney and Gore / Lieberman could impact the plans. The man that arrived in the Town Car pacified the doubts by saying, "Don't worry, we have people in high places and no matter who gets elected, they will take care of everything."
Fri, 07/31/2015 - 22:14 | 6377686 acetinker
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Hugh, did you catch this guy?  I dunno if you're still following this thread, but if so-

This guy looks, and talks, and thinks like me- even though he ain't me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTWi5GefKYc

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 00:59 | 6374185 mbutler101
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Trump is a clown and carnival barker...why people continue to vote is a mystery. Apparently we haven't figured it out yet after decades, so let the shit show continue.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 00:56 | 6374176 edotabin
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All I know is, I am more cautious than most here about earthly "saviors".

The Greeks voted for Tsipras. The Irish had voted against the EU. The French had voted against the new Constitution. The Dutch had voted against the new Constitution.

 

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 22:55 | 6377762 acetinker
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I'm convinced that the only earthly savior is you for you, and me for me, edo.

That said, I do favors for others on a regular basis, hoping that they will reciprocate.  They usually don't, being the self-centered assholes that they are.  I keep mental notes though, and I could turn them away from my door without a moment's remorse.

Oh, and then there's this;

If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal.

Emma Goldman

Does that surname sound familiar?  Since when does a khazar like Blankfein get to hide behind the Goldman name?

Since forever, apparemtly.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 08:07 | 6374759 Tribulation Blues
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Trump will not be getting in.... read the Obama antichrist prophecies...

http://revelation12.ca

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 20:36 | 6373427 keremetski
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Hitlery must question his birth certificate, then farce is complete.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 20:51 | 6373480 TahoeBilly2012
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Is Trump calling out the MIC, or Wall St, or just Mexicans? I am all for border control but what is he really challenging? I realize my questions are so obvious to be annoying.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 20:54 | 6373488 knukles
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But valid.  Nobody's asked him and got a full, complete and straight answer, yet.
T'will be a blast watching this!

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 20:57 | 6373500 Amish FinEng
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Fuk that damn FEDERAL government. Give them hell Donny!

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 21:09 | 6373512 OC Sure
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"... it is difficult not to extrapolate this sense of helplessness against powerful institutions. Tell us again why six years of central bank financial repression is serving the interests of the greater factors-of-production?"

Pssst! ...

"Haven't you heard it's a battle of words

 the poster bearer cried

Listen son, said the man with the gun

 
There's room for you inside" -Us and Them

 

Tyranny of what people do begins with tyranny of what they think.

Tyranny of what people think begins with the tyranny of words.

Tyranny of words is to detach the concept from its originating percept and "re-attach" it to its opposing percepts (this is not a factual re-attachment, only a belief of the attachment.) 

Although the Devil-Fish's sustenance comes from fractional reserve counterfeiting, why would anyone dare cut its lifeline as long as "bankers" are "printing money" to "stimulate" "investing"?

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 21:22 | 6373582 Al Gophilia
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There are no heroes and there are no champions willing, nor able, to deliver us back to a Constitutional Republican system of government. If a candidate is willing to participate under the patronage of the current banker controlled system, never once uttering a return to Constitutional Governance, then they are a false phropets trying to cash in.

Not once have I heard Trump mention anything close to it. He appeal is based upon hot topics such as the treatment of veterans and border controll, rather than substance.His approach is no different than Rand's (I promised never to utter his vilness'  name,.... dead to me). There is not a canditate worth voting for if you hold the Constitutional Repubic's Laws to be sacrocant. The founding fathers did, terrorisyts that they were. Our laws have been trampled on since Lincoln issued money to pay for his war of aggression (banker supported).

This round of the to and fro between the talking heads and the current crop of champions is theatre, designed to indulge their supporters in confirmation bias of their faith in their champion's ability to deliver their version of political Nirvana.

That's fiat democracy for you; Constitutional Treason.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 21:30 | 6373615 overmedicatedun...
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al all you got left is to lock and load and put it on rock & roll..let god sort em out. (don't throw out the good for the perfect if you know what I mean?) who gonna give you all you want? nobody...what's your answer ??..as i posted at least he aint a clinton or bush. and he ain't perfect but who else you got?

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 22:15 | 6373751 Al Gophilia
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I got nuttin, 'cept faded dreams of Liberty and a Constitutional Republic based on that quaint practice of expecting more from my representatives than just platitudes of "I'm here to serve".

Fuck these cunts. Get fucking angry and more-so, get fucken even.

Fucking true belivers.

The story of Santa Clause is more believcable than believing that after 200 years of "governance" that these curs and bitches would expend one quark of brain matter for you. 

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 00:43 | 6374149 Bumpo
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A Vote for Trump is a Vote for Turning the Fucking Table Over. Isn't that good enough?

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 02:38 | 6374353 Al Gophilia
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Absolutely not. I want to see trials.

And then hangings, starting with bankers and then those socialist enablers called representatives.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 05:00 | 6374499 Rogue Trooper
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Feel your pain brother.  Interesting to see how many of their fellow travellers get a seat in the helicopter to the Corporate Jet when the fall begins (picture rooftop Goldman Sachs HQ in NY).  I suspect few and then it will be payback time.

"You're ghosting us mutherfucker...." Mac from Predator :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NLb98vBTpc

 

 

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 05:33 | 6374515 Ace006
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All true. Three (3) of the GOP candidates now aren't natural born citizens but they're content to ignore that clear requirement as are their competitors. Santorum is most likely to raise this but probably not.

I like what Bumpo (below) says about turning over the table. Trump's refreshing that way even if none of those jokers is going to talk about restoration. Kinda like idea that you go to war with the army you've got.

Anyway, the border's the critical issue now....

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 21:55 | 6373698 Row Well Number 41
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Is Trump calling out the MIC, or Wall St, or just Mexicans? I am all for border control but what is he really challenging? I realize my questions are so obvious to be annoying.

I don't think he truely knows.

#41

 

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 21:46 | 6373673 logicalman
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Whoever you vote for the Government gets in.

If you vote you are complicit in the crimes of government.

 

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 23:03 | 6373887 Nostradumbass
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"Whoever you vote for the Government gets in."

If you vote you are complicit in the crimes of government."

Exactly!

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 00:46 | 6374155 Bumpo
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Not Voting is so Cool! What a Bad Ass! Whooo!!! Now that's something! Real John McCain Courage there, I tell you. Watch this, I'm going to stay home and do nothing. Take that!

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 08:01 | 6374741 Took Red Pill
Thu, 07/30/2015 - 20:45 | 6373453 drendebe10
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Fuk da elected & reelected career politician miedras. Fukem all. That goes quadruple for the fudgepacker.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 21:24 | 6373589 Al Gophilia
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Yes. Divided we fall.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 00:04 | 6374080 Alpo for Granny
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Trump on Oprah in 1988.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEPs17_AkTI

 

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 01:22 | 6374247 Meat Hammer
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Have you guys heard Trump's stance on The Fed?

Yeah, me neither.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 03:21 | 6374414 bentaxle
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Not surprising! Why would the people vote for the same businessmen/bankers that have trashed their lives? Might as well vote for some new ones.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 04:28 | 6374480 Bingo Hammer
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Trump is probably in the employ of the Democrats in order to totally split the Republican vote particularly if he is "forced" to run as an Independent...

Its the perfect plan, he gets to shoot his mouth off (and no one knows how to do that better than The Donald) but actually saying all sorts of truth about what is actually going on and giggling himself to sleep, while many in the US think OMG could he be real then only to find out later when he makes some monumental gaff that destroys his campaign and thus give Hitlery the perfered carpet ride into the White House will people wake up to the game.

Hmm the only caveat on that would be that, Trump being Trump, actually really starts to see his popularity and the truly believe and want to win the Presidency, then things would really get interesting

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 20:35 | 6373422 Publicus
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Thu, 07/30/2015 - 20:36 | 6373428 CHC
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If nothing else - for me - Trump is a huge breath of fresh air.  Washington, DC and everything it stands for is a wasteland of toxic ideology and hasn't truly served the American people in 50 years.  The hubris and arrogance out of our politicans has been literally breathtaking.  I'm with Trump in 2016 exactly 100%!

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 20:53 | 6373486 magnetosphere
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u must have voted for obama in 08, and bush before that, and clinton too.  remember clinton's campaign slogan in '92?  "change."  LMAO

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 21:25 | 6373594 Bilderberg Member
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They murdered Robert Kennedy. They threatened Ross Perot to drop out or they would come after his family. They falsified Ron Paul's delegate numbers and he went away...What corruption are they going to use against Donald Trump?

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 21:44 | 6373663 Al Gophilia
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Donald Trump couldn't shine Ron Paul's shoes. Comparing a populist to a Libertarian is a long stretch. Tell me, why are you voting for him.... EXACTLY? Think hard now.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 21:53 | 6373693 Bilderberg Member
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I don't have to think that hard AL. I paid for enough Ron Paul 2012 brochures to cover 3 counties in Missouri. 

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 22:19 | 6373764 Al Gophilia
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Are you saying that Trump is the New Ron Paul?

Again. Why would you vote for Trump?

Anybody?

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 22:28 | 6373791 secretargentman
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Um... because he's a Middle Finger to Washington?  Sort of nebulous, isn't it? 

 

If I really believed Trump would order his attorney general to prosecute Obama, Hitlery, Jarret, et al, I'd vote for him in a heartbeat.  Unfortunately I've been burned too many times.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 23:01 | 6373830 Al Gophilia
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I feel exactly the same way. The One Party Corporation we now have for government has merely two factions jockying for control of the Board. 

It can't be changed by voting. The Board's role is not to borrow money into existance, its to keep reading the same bedside story to the children. 

.... and they lived happily ever after.

Now, go to sleep.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 22:57 | 6373868 Nostradumbass
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Al Gophilia,

I'm with you. I don't waste the time to vote at all anymore in elections for our overlords. I do vote with my feet and money.

Trump seems at best a magnet for those among us (and what a large group we are) who are utterly disaffected and disgusted. Still, WHAT DOES HE STAND FOR?

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 05:43 | 6374522 Ace006
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Closing the border and not being a patsy for every foreigner on the planet. More rational economics.

I worry that he's an amnesty man. NumbersUSA just gave him a C- on immigration.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 23:13 | 6373916 FredFlintstone
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'cause he's awesome

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 22:33 | 6373808 Freddie
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Trump's daughter converted and I think one of his (Eirc) son's did.  Donald Jr. married a Catholic girl.  Donald also loves Bibi.

He is not the savior and yeah they all suck.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 23:15 | 6373924 Al Gophilia
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Kim Kardashian's cat wore a pink ribbon today.

Yeah, they all suck,( except for Hillary).

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 05:46 | 6374523 Ace006
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>>  Kardashian's cat <<

Now you're talking.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 21:40 | 6373654 Al Gophilia
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Well said. Utter stupidity. The poster might elaborate EXACTLY why he will vote for him. Hope?

Read the Constitution and jot down how many laws that the previous admininistrations have broken or failed to recind, then come back and tell us why it is you are going to vote for him. 

Pitiful, abject populism.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 05:47 | 6374524 Ace006
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Works for me.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 22:14 | 6373746 free shit plz
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Trump is a huge breath of fresh air.
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Yeah it would be nice having a rich old white man dictating for a change, one whose riches and success depend on the conservation of a corrupted status quo.

And he's doing it all through one of the two major parties, a real outsider this one.
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This new Trump trumpeting zerohedge would be less sad if they dropped the Durden motif. This place with its bias toward the lesser of two evil republifags is more project gayhem than project mayhem.

'Tylers', please find a new pseudonym to barrack for the status quo under. Pansy wallstreet fags pretending to be subversives only fool those tards dumb enough to hold that $1900 bag of gold you've been pushing.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 00:50 | 6374161 Bumpo
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Your mythological perfect superman does not exist. Ill settle for somone with 10x the fight Ron Paul has, and 1 or 2 fixes our country desperately needs.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 05:37 | 6374517 Al Gophilia
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And what would those one or two fixes be. Elaborate if you can and not sound mainstream at the same time.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 05:51 | 6374526 Ace006
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Mission Control, we HAVE lift off!!

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 17:05 | 6376859 free shit plz
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Your mythological perfect superman does not exist.
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This coming from the cheerleader account that has been raving about Trump the minute the TV began dangling him in front of you.

My myth? That's fucking hilarious you gushing little trump fanboy, tell me more about morning in america once trump is prez.

Anarchism trumpo, when given a choice between two rulers, I don't choose. I'm a big boy and can govern myself.

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 01:13 | 6374222 mbutler101
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You summed it up nicely. Either the last bastion of critical thinking in the galaxy, Fight Club, has gone full retard, or the the Eye of Sauron looks upon us now and has unleashed his hordes of manufactured consent minions.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 21:19 | 6373570 Id fight Gandhi
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Wait wut?

 

He's a billionaire and a corporatist. He pledged support to izreal.

 

 

 

 

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 21:32 | 6373628 kchrisc
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My God man, have you not been paying attention?! None of it--N O N E--is real.

"I'm Adam Lanza, and I approved this message."

Unlike a movie, the story is in the theater, and not in the play. And after 9/11, Sandy Hook. Boston "boom," and Paris, you would think that more would know this.

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..

 

If only they had been regal lions like "Cecil" was: http://rossbishop.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/kids-drone.jpg

 

 

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 21:46 | 6373674 Al Gophilia
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BRAVO!!!!!!

Eyes wide open.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 20:40 | 6373437 TeethVillage88s
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Nice Article Hook on the Home Page.

Great.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 20:40 | 6373440 Dogbert
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Well somebodys got to do it!

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 20:59 | 6373506 Freddie
Thu, 07/30/2015 - 21:48 | 6373668 knukles
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See, all a bunch of Bohemian Grove, Bilderberger, Illuminati, Soros Cronies supporting the NWO to enslave the peasantry a la Greece.

Edit:  I forgot pedophiles....  Yes, some of them went to some of those Dolphin House and Caribbean places, didn't they....

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 20:40 | 6373441 Atomizer
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Keep up the good work Donald Trump. 

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 22:20 | 6373768 38BWD22
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I upvote my friends.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 20:42 | 6373445 matermaker
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if you can tap into their anger, you can tap into their power.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 21:07 | 6373533 pipes
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...and subsequently MITIGATE OR NULLIFY it.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 20:46 | 6373449 JC-BI
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My 2cents: Trump is only braggadocio, no substance. Has he come out against Israel? NO! Has he come out against the FED? NO. He knows if he does he'll end up like Kennedy.

https://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2014/08/24/the-corrupt-federal-...

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 20:55 | 6373490 MATA HAIRY
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during the speech wherein he declared for president, Trump said that the stock market is too high and interest rates are too low.

 

Pay attention!

Fri, 07/31/2015 - 05:55 | 6374531 Ace006
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Check.

Check.

Thu, 07/30/2015 - 20:58 | 6373504 Volkodav
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ever hear of choose your battles?

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