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Al-Qaeda Attacks CIA-Trained Syrian "Freedom Fighters"; Commander Captured
Attempts to make sense of the prolonged, bloody conflict in Syria which threatens Turkey’s southern border and long ago spilled over into Iraq, are everywhere and always complicated by the constantly shifting alliances among the various groups fighting for control of the country.
For instance, commentators were taken off guard in April when al-Qaeda affiliate al-Nusra appeared to be working in tandem with rival ISIS in a push to control the Yarmouk refugee camp in Damascus. The siege - which transformed the camp into what Ban Ki-Moon called "the worst circle of hell" - also saw Palestinian militiamen forge awkward alliances with the Assad regime in the face of the militant assault.
Just this week, Turkey began bombing raids on ISIS targets, marking a departure from the country’s previous position and leading many to question why, given widespread suspicion that Turkey has been cooperating with ISIS for some time, Ankara would suddenly decide to go on the offensive (as we’ve shown, Erdogan’s motivation is purely political, but the official line is that a suicide bombing in Suruc forced the President’s reluctant hand). Turkey has also funnelled money to ISIS’ rivals in Syria in an effort to support any and all efforts (well, aside from those of the YPG) to overthrow Assad.
As for the US, it’s virtually impossible to say which groups the CIA has or hasn’t supported over the course of the war and indeed, many suspect US intelligence of funding and training the very militants who eventually became ISIS (a suspicion that was recently confirmed in a leaked Pentagon document).
Through it all, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has desperately clung to power although a speech delivered last Sunday suggested that the strongman’s grip on the country had weakened materially in the face of a manpower shortage.
Amid the chaos, the one thing that is abundantly clear is this: the US, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and other parties with a vested interest in the trajectory of Syria’s political future all want Assad gone, and for Washington, openly supporting the various groups battling the regime is now virtually impossible given the now widespread acknowledgement that nearly everyone the US has trained or armed over the course of the civil war either already was or has since become an "extremist" (however one wishes to define that admittedly amorphous term).
The US effort to recruit and allign with "moderate freedom fighters" reached peak absurdity in May when the Pentagon announced that it would train "appropriately vetted" combatants who would help "meet the needs of Syrian opposition forces."
How has that program been going you ask?
Not well.
In fact, the US has only managed to recruit and train 54 people in three months- and that, believe it or not, is not the most embarrassing part.
Here’s The New York Times with more:
A Pentagon program to train moderate Syrian insurgents to fight the Islamic State has been vexed by problems of recruitment, screening, dismissals and desertions that have left only a tiny band of fighters ready to do battle.
Those fighters — 54 in all — suffered perhaps their most embarrassing setback yet on Thursday. One of their leaders, a Syrian Army defector who recruited them, was abducted in Syria near the Turkish border, along with his deputy who commands the trainees. They were seized not by the Islamic State but by its rival the Nusra Front, an affiliate of Al Qaeda that is another Islamist extremist byproduct of the four-year-old Syrian civil war.
The abductions illustrate the challenges confronting the Obama administration as it seeks to marshal local insurgents to fight the Islamic State, which it views as the region’s biggest threat.
So al-Nusra which, as The Times also notes, "dealt a more serious blow to the CIA program last year, attacking and dismantling its main groups, the Syrian Revolutionaries Front and Harakat Hazm, and seizing some of their American-supplied, sophisticated antitank missiles," has now captured the commander and deputy commander of the new US "force", marking a terribly humiliating blow to the latest ill-fated CIA -backed effort to locate and train the "good guys." Reuters has more on the story:
Al Qaeda's Syria wing said on Friday it had detained members of a Syrian rebel group who had just returned from U.S. training, in a direct challenge to Washington's plan to train and equip insurgents to combat the hard-line Islamic State group.
In a statement that appeared to contradict comments from the Pentagon, Nusra Front said the men it was holding had entered Syria several days prior and had been trained under the supervision of the Central Intelligence Agency.
It described them as agents of America and warned others they should abandon the programme. It also said a U.S.-led coalition had mounted air strikes against Nusra Front positions during fighting between the group and the rebels.
Syrian opposition sources and a monitoring group said earlier this week that Nusra Front had detained the leader of the U.S-trained rebel "Division 30" and a number of its members. The Pentagon cast doubt on the reports on Thursday, saying no members of the "New Syrian Force" had been captured or detained.
"We warn soldiers of (Division 30) against proceeding in the American project," Nusra Front said in a statement distributed online. "We, and the Sunni people in Syria, will not allow their sacrifices to be offered on a golden platter to the American side."
So ultimately, the CIA's newest band of "freedom fighters" who are supposed to be fighting ISIS, are now fighting al-Nusra which is receiving funding from Turkey which as of last week, is now allied with the US in a fight against ISIS, only Turkey isn't really fighting ISIS, it's fighting the PKK which backs YPG which is really fighting ISIS and everyone involved is fighting Assad who would probably find the whole thing comically absurd were it not for the fact that it is ultimately his head that everyone is after.
It goes without saying that all of this serves to make Washington look absolutely ridiculous and indeed, this may mark a new record low for US foreign policy gone horribly awry.
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Al-CIA-dugh attacks US backed and trained "freedum fighterz" (ISIS).. Now this is some funny shit.
Herding catz was never an easy proposition.
Who, pray tell, is on whose side?
Oh, that's right, the pipeline!
"said earlier this week that Nusra Front had detained the leader of the U.S-trained rebel "Division 30" and a number of its members" ...
Detained is such a polite word for "liberate your head from your body" ...
CIA is busy choosing their Condo's on Rothschild Blvd in Tel Aviv that was gifted to them from Net-an-yoyo.
They aint got time to teach no stinking fighters!
Is there anyone else we can attack, piss off, and then lose to?
The U.S. Yid Fembot run State Department is a vaginal black hole where common sense and statesmanship sucked into a gapping vortex of tuna matso ball smelling nothingness.
Either back Assad fully or just nuke the whole place.
"Either back Assad fully or just nuke the whole place."
"Backing Assad" seems like it's pretty much off the table.
How about just take the high road and just leave and not kill anyone.?
Nobody's being beheaded.
The faux film bidness is going 24/7, the hours are Killin me.....ahem.
But what if the goal is simply to return the Mid East, save Israel, to the stone age?
This is an absolutely perfect example of a decision-making theorem I hold. No one can control outcomes, one can only control his/her actions. Hence, in the current complex of affiliations and alliances the very best thing the U.S. could do is - nothing. This may be anathema to the neocons in the Pentagon and intelligence establishment, but it is none the less, true.
No, that's not quite right - the U.S. should provide humanitarian aid to those displaced by this incredible mess.
"No, that's not quite right - the U.S. should provide humanitarian aid to those displaced by this incredible mess."
I'm in agreement.
So maybe bombing the fuck out of a helpless population for 20+ fucking years is not really a "plan" after all? (Using Iraq as an example).
Who knew?
Ditto> Libya.
LOL
The US does not need to give humanitarian aid that is what Europe is for , they love refugees.
my roomate's sister-in-law makes $72 every hour on the laptop . She has been unemployed for nine months but last month her pay was $12384 just working on the laptop for a few hours. find out here... www.earnmore9.com
laptop or Lap Dancing?
Since this seems to be intramural fight between two Muslim factions, I say let Allah sort it out.
It's an intramural fight between two CIA factions.
Spy vs Spy
Then let Yahweh sort it out.
Sooo... does the CIA go to Congress and ask for more money to fund both sides, or does the record Afghan poppy crop take care of that?
- That was a JOKE! I'm just kidding, I swear!
"golden platter"?
Barbarians.
Where is Syria's gold?
"Where is Syria's gold?"
Uncle Sham hasn't secured it yet.....like they "secured" Ukraine’s gold.
ZIA Team A clashes with ZIA Team B. This is starting to look like professional wrestling.
McCain says about Rand Paul "... by the way. I don't want to get in a fight with him at all, but it's not true. I know these people. I'm in contact with them all the time, "
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-soltz/five-hundred-million-down_b_7764...
Fuck John McCain! He is a MIC tool. I am not a Trump supporter, but the Donald has McCain figured out. Of course Rand Paul (who I do support) does, too.
The US is backing all sides in this conflict (except the Assad side obviously). If you belive the fairy tale that we want to "stop Isis" this makes no sense. But if you understand the real goal, American hegemony, it makes perfect sense.
Surely Al Nusrah Commander in Chief and American Hero John McCain can put this RIGHT.
If Nuland wasn't a women Al Nusrah/ISIS would welcome her experience in dishing out the IMF Funds earmarked for Syrian Freedom Fighters.
Yeah, but that's what Bibi and King Salman told us to do !
"Moderate" extremists vs. Extremists Not on the CIA Payroll.
This entire shitshow is getting worse by the minute.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/who-is-ambassador-robert-stephen-ford-the-a...
School of the America's, Honduran and other Central American mercs in the M.E.. They've gone absolutely batshit nuts.
Who cares which side is killing whom. The key is US can continue generating clandestine funds in the name of democracy.
Then people such as Nuland and family can use the money effectively as they have done in Ukraine and everywhere else.
American people do not seem to mind all this and let it happen,
The day is not far, when American people will be forced to pay for their sins.
This include sending jobs overseas so corporations can earn better profits, so people can earn money by playing stock market. Full 30% of US population don't work anymore.
The mighty US has gone to a level where they need terrorist to steal oil and sell to them cheap on black market.
US had to give excuses shamelessly for not putting sanctions on terrorist oil trading.
Who cares which side is killing whom. The key is US can continue generating clandestine funds in the name of democracy
As long as the people of the USA keep complying with a tax code that it at best absurd. more realistically evil, there is nothing done on their behalf around the world that is not justified by TPTB.
And it is not about the revenue, (17 trilllion dollar debt) it is about these self re-enforcing currents of psychosis flowing freely through the entire framework. Not that much different than another certain facist war machine in the 20th century.
"American people do not seem to mind all this and let it happen"
calling bullshit, even if the majority knew wft was going on, there is zero, nothing, nodda that would stop this madness.
starting to look like the pentagon is running merica.
and where is russia in all this? minding its own business and securing its borders, unlike merica.
russia tried and stopped the syria madness once, but this tyme they are very smart. they are patiently watch a top spinning til it topples.
prelude to civil wars 9.0 culminating
in billions of corpses piled beneath
the surface of the ground? oh, man.
Headline:
Al-Qaeda Attacks CIA-Trained Syrian "Freedom Fighters"; Commander CapturedO.K.
Just to be sure about this:
Tim Osman is DEAD, RIGHT? I mean, he died of kidney failure shortly after being visited by the CIA at the American Hospital in Dubai in August 2001, and then CONUS flattened the Tora Bora Highlands where he was hiding in a cave complex (with a laptop and a cellphone at his side), and then there was this 'daring Seal Team Raid' in Abottobad, and his body is at the bottom of the Indian Ocean, RIGHT?
The proginy of the CIA's planned database compiler Osama Bin Laden ('the base', shorthand English translation in Arabic for 'the DATABASE'; or 'Al-Qaeda') is now 'attacking' the CIA-backed ISIS and the Syrian 'freedom fighters' [ALSO CIA-backed]).
??? ??????, ???But it seems as if the Free Syrian Army cooperates with the Al-Nusra Front and that the US approves of that:
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/neocon-watch/2013/may/27/mccain-spends-memorial-day-with-al-qaeda-allies/
NY Times Admits: U.S.-Backed Free Syrian Army Under Effective Al-Qaeda Control
Posted on December 29, 2014
http://counterjihadreport.com/tag/john-mccain/
American weapons intended for the Free Syrian Army seems to wind up among Al-Nusra Front fighters.
Wounded Al-Nusra Front fighters have previously received medical treatment on Golan.
So I don´t think that is unfair to say that the West cooperates with the Al-Nusra Front.
(Note: I am not a counterjihadist. I am not very interested in Islam and how Islam affects societies.)
it is always wise to study your enemies
those who would like to harm you
like a muslim jihadist
but unfortunately many here think this is all fake
walking into a nice trap I say
dsty:
"it is always wise to study your enemies
those who would like to harm you
like a muslim jihadist
but unfortunately many here think this is all fake
walking into a nice trap I say"
My comments:
Does that mean that you think the Israelis were stupid when they provided Al-Nusra Front fighters with medical treatment and when they released the Palestinian Hamas founder sheikh Yassine and let him create the PLO contender Hamas? My impression is that Israelis don´t take Muslim Jihadists seriously (unless they stand face to face with an armed Jihadist).
This is a real mess.
Whatever people think about Assad, it has to be admitted that he maintains incredible sangfroid in the face of all the attacks. Not the sort of man that does a Draghi flinch.
Cluster fuck 101> {Pentagon Entrance} to your left.
Was Adam Lanza there?
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..
WMDs? Apollo 11? 19 guys and box cutters? MH-17? McVeigh? Bauman? The Tsarnaev brothers? Incubators? Mobile launchers? Bad hard drives? Magic Bullet? Chucky?
Why are we so against Iran's ally Assad .... then on the other hand .... we cave to Iran .... on the nuke treaty ?
Because it was prophesied.
INDICTMENT
Americans are criminals because Americans violate the Constitution of the United States of America.
The U.S. President Obama, the entire U.S. Congress, the CIA, the FBI, the U.S. Military, and the entire Police Force of these United States SWORE to protect, serve and uphold the U.S. Constitution.
The U.S. Constitution forbids usage of debt as money (referred to as 'notes') and stipulates that only gold and silver can be used as money.
Yet,
Americans commit or support and condone the murder and torture of human beings throughout planet earth in the name of democracy and freedom, all for the sake of acquiring Constitutionally fraudulent and illegal Federal Reserve Notes a.k.a (counterfeit) U.S. Dollars.
Since the United States is a democracy and Americans only elect Democrats and Republicans who perpetuate this unlawfulness,
Americans are indicted criminals according to the United States Constitution.
Spread the word.
People's Front of Judea or the Judean People's Front?
It's like one of those American undercover sting operations where a whole bunch of guys shoot at each other only to find out later that they all work for the ATF, DEA and FBI.
Tango #1 "Hey Ahmed, stop shooting I'm CIA".
Tango #2 "Hey Mohammed, put your weapon down I'm Mossad"
Tango #3 "Hey, I'm a British merc hired by the Qataris"
Tango #4 "Hey, I was trained in Jordan by Americans so does that make me CIA?"
#1,#2,#3: "No, that makes you cannon fodder. Shoot him!"
"Al Qaeda's Syria wing said on Friday it had detained members of a Syrian rebel group who had just returned from U.S. training, in a direct challenge to Washington's plan to train and equip insurgents to combat the hard-line Islamic State group.
We warn soldiers of (Division 30) against proceeding in the American project," Nusra Front said in a statement distributed online. "We, and the Sunni people in Syria, will not allow their sacrifices to be offered on a golden platter to the American side."
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This internecine war between factions of ISIS, al Qaeda and [insert your other favored bad guys] must explain why Washington & Westminster are so desparate to start bombing themselves directly; they simply can't trust johhny foreigner terrorist (aka freedom fighters) to stay loyal and avoid squabbling among themselves.
They must be getting very confused working out who the bad guys are when it changes almost daily.
I wonder how many naive young men and boys who joined up to fight Assad are now pushing up daisies? This thing has gone on for awhile now...
Friendly fire I call it, and it is all a cover for the truth, same as it ever was. Syria have done a great job of holding back all these terrorists sent by THE WESTERN AXIS OF EVIL. Of course the chief puppeteer holding all the strings is none other than IZRAHELL, the filthy terrorist land of Rothschild creation.
ISIS AND RIGHT SECTOR: NATOs LATEST OFFENSIVE AGAINST RUSSIA.
http://www.sott.net/article/298951-ISIS-and-Right-Sector-NATOs-latest-of...
ahhh! the Sunnis still want America all to themselves,
so cute! its ok ,Canada will provide the extra oil it needs,
then you`ll be free to exploit your own markets! and no one else will bother you!
win win!
The West should realize by now that you should never get in the middle of raghead on raghead violence. Just accept the gift and sit back and watch with a beverage.
Can someone color code these guys or something like that? It's giving me a fuking headache.
Mr. Brown, Mr. Pink, Mr. White, etc.
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It is like the standoff in Reservoir Dogs.
The expenditure of life and destruction is the whole idea.
Peace is unprofitable.
All these terrorist groups are created by Satan America.
America is a rouge nation promoting terrorism.
America is a threat to human race .
Sanction and boycott America now.