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American (Predatory) Capitalism Explained In 130 Seconds

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Now, more than ever, with Greece and Ukraine front and center, understanding how corporations take control of countries, and how capitalism drives the expansion of the Military Industrial Complex is crucial: "we have created a mutant form of predatory capitalism which has created an extremely unstable, unsustainable, unjust and very very dangerous world."

 

Source: http://www.studiojoho.com/

 

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Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:05 | 6380055 TeamDepends
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You can call it anything you want, but it has as much to do with capitalism as todays USA has to do with Constitutional Republic.

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:08 | 6380069 realmoney2015
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Where is the Trump article for today??? If he is not constantly in our faces, how will we know what awesome thing he just said?

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:12 | 6380080 Tribulation Blues
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Trump is not getting in anyway, as Obama will not be leaving. According to the Lord's prophecies about Obama the Bush/Clinton Cabal is going to assassinate him aat about the same time the dollar crashes. That will be when Revelation 13; 3 is fulfilled. Satan will bring Obama back to life to wondment of the whole world after they have been informed by the media that he was dead...

http://revelation12.ca

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:16 | 6380087 Seek_Truth
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Troll, false prophet and liar.

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:23 | 6380103 realmoney2015
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Sorry, it had to be said. Trump is getting way too much attention, for all the wrong reasons. I was looking foward to Rand debating him on Monday on CSPAN, but Trump wussed out. He needs his Fox news moderators lobbing him softballs.

I was hoping the masses would hear his actual poliies, instead of name-calling. You know, like 'bombing syria and sending in our great oil companies.'

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:39 | 6380143 Monetas
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 I love the way Trump is bitch slapping the MSM .... every day is a debate .... we don't have to wait for some phony, scripted, staged "debate" !

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:43 | 6380144 wee-weed up
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The problem is not Capitalism per se, but Fascism, by which governments  bastardize Capitalism by "enticing" some successful big companies into projecting their dictates, and then "generously reward" such companies for getting in bed with them. Think Google... think Microsoft... etc.

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:48 | 6380164 Richard Chesler
Sat, 08/01/2015 - 22:37 | 6380281 The9thDoctor
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Capitalism is a 19th Century model.  It peaked out when Robber Barons took everything over.  Capitalism is a logistical function where it begins with exponential growth and then the growth hits a saturation point and levels off.  The Fed, the IRS, Social Security, Current tax payment act, Nixon taking USD off of the gold standard, ERISA, tech stock bubbles, housing bubbles, and now massive bailouts and QE are all tools to keep a failed system going on forever.

Possible future scenarios are bail-ins, NIRP, debtor's prisons, who knows what tools these banksters will use to keep this failed system going. 

Capitalism was good at pulling the masses out of the agrarian age, and into today's information age.  Now with automation and efficiency, we need to rethink employment, economics, currency, and logistics.  Going back to 19th century outdated debates is futile, because we are now in uncharted territory.  We literally have to start from scratch, and debate new economic models.

Debating whether it was capitalism, socialism, communism, fascism, -ism this or that that caused the failure, is irrelevant.  Labels are a waste of time, and change defintions over time anyway.

We have automation and A.I. literally around the corner, so we need to transition into this new system.

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 22:54 | 6380310 jwoop66
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And who makes the decisions about "the new system"?   Smart harvardprincetonyale people?  

 

Free people, free markets.

 

Not sure I get the premise of the video.   So he says "we" go into countries where there is nothing.  Build stuff.  Then expect something in return?    This is bad?   If these people had very little before "we" got there, how did we make things worse?  flush toilets?  cell phones?  fast food?   If I was scrounging for bushmeat just to survive, and someone builds a mcdonalds,  I'm not gonna bitch about the quality of the food. 

 

Also... It is the local GOVTS that take "our" money and fuck their own populations according to the video.  That is not "capitalism".  

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 23:28 | 6380390 macholatte
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According to the Lord's prophecies about Obama the Bush/Clinton Cabal is going to assassinate him

 

for being here only 3+ weeks you sure know how to make an entrance.

LMAO

 

 

 

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 23:35 | 6380400 Manthong
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Good little video.. but off the mark….

STOP VILLIFYING CAPITALISM.

We don’t have that anymore.. it is now FINANCIALISM.

..and we will get the bastards at the top sooner or later..

Think of France in 1793.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 06:30 | 6380775 Keyser
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Government is supposed to protect the people from predatory behavior by foreign entities, be they foreign countries, companies or those apposing the founding principles of a nation... Governments have been corrupted by the very organizations they are supposed to protect us from... By definition, we are living in a global fascist regime... The evidence is everywhere... Take a good look at Greece and Venezuela, that's the future of any nation under western hegemonic control... 

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 07:21 | 6380820 Scooby Dooby Doo
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dis·a·bil·i·ty
noun: disability; plural noun: disabilities

--A physical or mental condition that limits a person's movements, senses, or activities.
"my disability makes getting into bed a slow process"

--A disadvantage or handicap, especially one imposed or recognized by the law.
"he had to quit his job and go on disability"

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 15:03 | 6382129 scaleindependent
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The interesting and tragic thing is that this Economic Hitmen doctrine is being applied to the  center, to the homeland, to the USA now. The U.S. since at least 2006 has been the victim of this practice.   For example, people get FRAUDULENT loans : No job, no income loans (NINJA), by the banksters knowing that people can not pay for it. They profit gratuitously from it knowing that people CAN NOT pay it (as it was designed to be).  Then, they profit by selling the loans to pensions, other countries, churches, and then they short the hell out of those bonds to profit some more. 

Then they make the whole country and all of its tax payers bail them out by receiving trillions in money from the treasury, not to mention in trillions printed from the USA central bank (thus diluting the regular person's money).  

Then they come and ask for their pound of flesh (just like the video mentions), asking that essential services that regular people receive be cut and taxed more so that those bonds remain whole.  They want cuts in education, sanitary services,city parks, national parks, sewage, street sweeping etc.  , cause the debt needs to be payed. (yeah, yeah, it could never be repayed, but a guy has to make a disgusting profit).

Since the low lying fruit of exploitation was all taken, they are coming home to get theirs. Be ready and bend over. 

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 12:28 | 6381553 The Delicate Genius
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personally I look forward to the sensible, empirically-based debates between this noob and Seek_Truth.

/s

Tue, 08/04/2015 - 08:16 | 6388799 jwoop66
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Not sure what zh says to you all, but my presence here is stated as 4years 26(?)weeks.   In reality, been posting since 2009.

Tue, 08/04/2015 - 08:19 | 6388808 jwoop66
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8 weeks calling me a newb delicate?!

 

 

troll

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 03:17 | 6380656 dark_matter
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The premise of the video is that people scrounging for bushmeat are happier/have better lives than people living in slums and that "we" (I think he means the people he worked for) con them into making the switch because it benefits "us".

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 23:04 | 6380330 Fred C Dobbs
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A.I. will be used against you. 

 

Free markets and small government will get us the future we want.    

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 00:19 | 6380467 orez65
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"Capitalism is a 19th Century model."

No, it isn't.

Capitalism is a free market system where you offer your goods or services to the public. If people want it they buy it, if they don't want it they don't buy it.

It's been around since time imemorial.

What you are talking about is "mercantilism" where individuals use the power of the state to enrich themselves.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 08:55 | 6380914 bigkahuna
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This is what happens when oligarchies usurp republics.

I had a friend who always said for decades that the USA was a "benevolent oligarchy". Before I was awake to the hazards of an oligarchy back then I thought - well they are doing an ok job of running our country so I can go with this. After I woke up to the murderous plot of 911 I realized that the oligarchy was no longer benevolent (if it ever had been), but outright evil. We have allowed the USA to fall into the hands of corporate and MIC interests that feel towards humanity the same way that lucifer feels toward humanity. They hate us and want us dead in as great of quantity in as expedient of time as possible.

The only way to stop the oligarch at this point is to go and put them all in one of the prisons they built along with their sychophants (see politicians), pare down the beloved federal government to its constitutional boundaries, and bring in a new group of leaders and representatives who will abide by the constitution and it's republic. 

Short of that - we are going to have the downward spiraling business as usual until the oligarchs achieve their goals.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 05:42 | 6380758 White Mountains
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An example of Capitalism is where a farmer plants his field, tends his crop, gets the produce to market and you buy food that was produced by the fruits of his production.

OMG, sooooo outdated and evil.  Don't disparage capitalism with your mouth full, it is bad manners.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 11:00 | 6381228 withglee
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Me thinks The9thDoctor gets it.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 11:46 | 6381377 SWRichmond
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we are now in uncharted territory

No.  Human liberty, self-ownership, freedom of conscience, freedom of action, political self-determination never go out of style, no matter how many fads (-isms) come and go.  There are always those who want to harness mankind for their own selfish ends (power, money, sexual gratification, etc).  There always have been and there always will be those, and they will endlessly be coming up with new fads to use in order to gain the power they want.

 

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 14:57 | 6382107 stocker84
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Literally around the corner and literally start from scratch?

That is annoying, ...literally.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.. there is nothing new under the sun. Cliches, yes... Nevertheless, you catch my drift... Figuratively!

There is no need for transition.. There is no transition. We be gettin' screwed... We be continued to get screwed. Where is the transition? Now, the robots will be screwing us? Come on! (Not literally)

 

 

Mon, 08/03/2015 - 00:45 | 6383750 Obama LaForge
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This video is total BS as far as terrorism is concerned. They're not terrorizing us because they're poor. They're terrorizing us because they're oil-rich and finally have an opportunity TO attack us. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJEi79Lj0Ic

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 04:29 | 6380703 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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"Fascism should more properly be called Corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:51 | 6380172 realmoney2015
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What policy or philosophy do you like of Trump's?

in favor of eminent domain?

to ban assault riffles?

to bomb Syria and 'send in our great oil companies'?

"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." Let's forget about his best put downs. What ideas, policies, or philosphies do you like about Trump?

 

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 22:30 | 6380272 BullyBearish
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Or better yet...how about his call for the execution of Edward Snowden?  Distraction.

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 23:08 | 6380340 realmoney2015
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Yes, so to translate that to a philosophy: Trump believes that when the government is obviously breaking the Constitution ( 4th amm.) and someone calls them on it, he wants have them hanged. 

So the government can break the Constitutional oath and it must punish anyone who tries to bring those violations to light.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 13:48 | 6381872 Chris88
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Don't forget Trump also supports socialized medicine, entitlements, welfare, the Fed, the IRS, estate tax, income tax, surplus wealth tax, etc.  The guy is a fucking joke.

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 23:28 | 6380389 falconflight
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I like Mr. Trump merely because he pokes the ruling elites and their media molls.  I'll support him all the way (financially as well) until the voting booth come primary day.  

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 23:43 | 6380416 bluskyes
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Since most politicians do the opposite of what they promise during their campaign, Trump might be all right.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 00:12 | 6380451 shovelhead
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That he'll send you back to Mexico.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 05:35 | 6380756 negative rates
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I like him cause he can be played like a fiddle.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 08:50 | 6380905 Sparkey
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For the most part people have small minds, this is not a criticism, indeed I surely have a small mind too on many subjects, because we have small minds 'The Donald' excites us, of course, deep down, we know he has feet of clay, but for now, it is enjoyably exhilerating to pretend he doesn't, and that he will carry and speak our, little minded, points of view to the Rulers, of which he is a minor member, so, enjoy the show while it lasts, take your pleasure where you find it!

As Americans we have Idols and ideology, Idols have their day in the Sun and then fade away into oblivion, Ideology, while often poorly understood, is invested with a Religious certainty, the right Ideology, believed with enough fervency can conquer any opponent, if we could only get everybody to believe the same thing, the same thing 'I' believe in then everything will be 'OK'.

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:20 | 6380096 Latitude25
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Psychedelic drugs are dangerous.

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:23 | 6380098 mayhem_korner
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Not sure imposing your intepretations is making people want to listen further.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 00:18 | 6380462 Element
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Probably just a tragic backfired attempt at humor that was too smart by 'alf.

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:48 | 6380163 farmerbraun
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Hell's bells!
Has someone told Jesus about this?

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 22:03 | 6380212 roddy6667
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There is no Magic Sky Daddy. The Bobble is a book of Jewish fairy tales.
Take your meds. Stay off the Internet.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 02:25 | 6380625 DutchBoy2015
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Bingo.   the Bobble is for non thinking weak minded retards

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 10:27 | 6381124 Farqued Up
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John the Divine was hooked on some kind of hybrid derivative of Peyote and LSD when he penned Revelations on Patmos (?), he died and was reincarnated as Timothy Leary.

Ever since a single god came into vogue man added religion to his war chest, prior to that it was mostly over protein and pussy. Of course, the Romans couldn't fully release their addiction to multiple gods so the Trinity was an excellent filler. Besides the Hindu's were in existence long before the Abraham feuds, and they had a sort of trinity. The Romans were great copycats, even stole the Greek gods and re tagged them.

Thesis vs. antithesis, gotta have it, whether in tag team wrasslin', Republicans vs. Democrats, God vs. Satan, two gladiators, corporate duopolies, husband-wife, etc. it's human nature. Communes are foreign to human nature and give rise to charlatan psychopaths.

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:36 | 6380135 jcdenton
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Ask him about 9/11. That is all you need to know about Trump. He is no, has never been, and never will be another Perot or Ron Paul. He inherited his wealth, and the central banking system insures his wealth. He does not even know what real money is.

Grant it that Perot made his billions largely via the defense sector. However, ask Gene (Chip) Tatum why he left Pegasus .. 

You can also ask Lee Wanta. Wanta was to give Vince Foster a briefcase with $250 million for Hillary's Children Defense Fund. Wanta was following orders for the POTUS at the time (Clinton), and had no knowledge of the briefcase contents. This was in Switzerland. The same year of Waco, and the demise of Foster.

Later Hillary's [slush] fund shows up in UBS. Ask Scott Bennett, former Army intelligence. Oh, and before the news of Foster's demise, Wanta finds himself in a Swiss dungeon. Literally, a medieval dungeon ..

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 22:28 | 6380268 Pazuzu
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$250 million in cash? That's more like a couple of packing crate's worth of $100 bills. How much did 'Heisenberg' have in the storage locker in Breaking Bad?

Maybe it was one of those big ass checks like you get from Publisher's Clearinghouse. You know, folded up to fit in a briefcase...

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 10:41 | 6381168 Farqued Up
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Bearer bonds?

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 22:44 | 6380290 monad
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Don't forget Ron Brown.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 01:17 | 6380558 wisefool
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I watched a tabloid peice on Donald trump today. Apparently Hillary wanted a way out but they (her doctor)  said female reptoids do not have to reproduce to be healthy. Donald trump apparently has to be able to bow out of the game because his 3rd trophy wife is pregnangt with his 6th child.

I am no duke of wales, but I am ready to show $43 to every IRS agent (including algore) who thinks they can get my stuff. With a pathetic tax code that only has 70,000 pages.

Try harderder america. The fate of physics revolves around you!

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 08:45 | 6380889 Agstacker
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Sorry, here's the Hillary story you wanted so badly-

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/30/hillary-clinton-emails-u...

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:49 | 6380167 20834A
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What to call it? One of the points made in this very insightful essay. Highly recommend. http://johnhcochrane.blogspot.co.nz/2015/08/rule-of-law-in-regulatory-state.html?m=1

 

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 11:49 | 6381387 STP
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Agreed, that is a very good article and true too!   THe Regulatory Agencies are now powerhouses unto themselves, with no recourse against their actions or decisions at all.   Try getting a building permit in Los Angeles County and you will see that they can make your life hell.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 13:20 | 6381770 michelp
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'Try getting a building permit in Los Angeles County and you will see that they can make your life hell.'

 

Bureaucracies are the banes of mankind.

m.

 

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 08:42 | 6380879 doctor10
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Somebody has confused capitalism with central bank facilitated national and inter-national asset-stripping

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 15:35 | 6382243 sgt_doom
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"You can call it anything you want, but it has as much to do with capitalism . . ."

Oh yeah??????

Try reading Michael Perelman's outstanding book, The Invention of Capitalism.

And, read British Imperialism 1688-2000, by P.J. Cain and A.G. Hopkins.

Also, a bunch of other books on US and global financial history would be advised.

You shoud know your history before making such specious claims, sir!

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:05 | 6380056 kridkrid
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Finance fascism.

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:07 | 6380065 Lordflin
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I think of all of the modern expressions of evil personified, the selling of human baby body parts says it all...

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:11 | 6380076 SgtShaftoe
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But it's for the children...

sorry, someone had to say it.

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:22 | 6380094 Tribulation Blues
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And they have the gall to call the murder of the innocent 'planned parenthood' and 'affordable health care' for women....

Prophet Linda Newkirk had a series of visions awhile back where she saw acres and acres of dead babies crying out for their mothers... she then had a vision of numerous doctors stabbing at babies with knives and scissors and various instruments... the scene shifted and she saw several missiles coming into the USA and she was made aware that no one would see it coming, just as the babies had not seen it coming... the Lord then spoke and said, 'they knew it was wrong'

 

Read Linda's prophecies and visions at http://revelation12.ca

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:26 | 6380110 mayhem_korner
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TB - not sure if you are familiar with Matthew 24:11 and Revelation 22:18, but you may find those verses particularly insightful.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 04:33 | 6380684 SaintInix
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Uhhh....

How do DEAD babies cry to or at anyone?

So all of us decent folk who never killed a baby are going to die because some people didn't wanna wear a condom, or care for a child they couldn't handle?

I'm sorry, but your lack of logic, makes my brain hurt.

What still amazes me, is that in 2015, there are still morons that believe all those claptrap stories and fabricated fairy tales written by ancient smart people...

The Bible and all other books of these so-called 'Faiths' are nothing but a means of control...

Written by ancient smart folks like me, (140+ I.Q.) to make morons like you, do what we say, and give us money to call you bad people. Affording us status, wealth, power and influence.

 

Only one problem, no one decided to let anyone else in on the secret, advance time 2000 years, and we have a majority of a 350 Million person nation.... Believing in fuckin' Angels.

If you believe in Angels, just wait right there while I go tell my buddy the Easter Bunny what a dumbass you are. /sarc

~Edit~ Also, anyone who listens to this 'pro-life' stupidity, knows it has nothing to do with the children, or the lives of these people. Conservitives are always banging on about the 'Sanctity of Life' and unborn babies. Once you're born though, you're on your own, all you get is bootstraps and a food stamp card.

They don't want you to kill the babies, so they have plenty of poor, uneducated laborers, soldiers and sheep to control. They want obidient workers, Debt-saddled over-confident comsumers and mindless soldiers who follow every order.

Get it through your head, The Elite only care until you're born, and then you're a pile of money from your parents until you hit 18, and can go die for them over Oil and Currency markets, exports and chest-banging. The farmer feeds his cows (Food Stamps) even when they don't produce milk. He cares for them, keeps them healthy (Affordable Care Act) and eventually slaughters them for meat to put on his table. (Wars for profit, Cancer deaths caused by cutting corners in waste disposal, Lobbying for higher allowances of chemicals and poison in our food... They don't care, we are nothing but a comodity just like Oil, Coal or Gold. Only we are infinitely more profitable.)

Just like George Carlin once said.... 'It's a big club, and YOU and I, ain't in it!'

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 10:34 | 6381147 Ace006
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Somewhere out there there's a college sophomore who's thanking you for a great idea for her term paper in sociology.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 10:20 | 6381103 falak pema
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You should listen to some real blues : try Summertime by Louis Armstrong or Autumn leaves by Miles Davis or Blue Train by John Coltrane.

It'll cure your metaphysical blues. 

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:28 | 6380111 nmewn
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Not to worry, Obama's "justice department" has launched a full scale investigation of the whistle blowers!

Tells one all they need to know about "justice".

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 00:22 | 6380474 orez65
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"... the selling of human baby body parts says it all..."

The day that Palmer shot the lion, Planned Parenthood killed 876 babies.

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:09 | 6380071 Hugh G Rection
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It's not capitalism, just a series of good ol fashioned mafia bust outs... on a much larger scale.

https://youtu.be/PIZJyXjZXqA?t=54s

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:14 | 6380082 SgtShaftoe
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All governments of any scale die. The only stable governments are those where the population can influence the outcome e.g. city states and small canton styled systems that are bottom-up.

This is simply one more example of how systems fail. It's just very slow, but soon it will be fast.

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:16 | 6380089 Monetas
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Un-American predatory puke !

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 09:33 | 6380972 falak pema
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Trump's ghost ?

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 15:10 | 6382156 scaleindependent
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Monetas,

 

You are an idiot.

How do you explain the Banksters selling debt that can not be payed back. First making a profit by making the debt, then making a profit by packaging it and selling it to pensions, churches, then making a profit by SHORTING ("the bag of shit", by their own admision), then making more profit by getting TARP bail out, then making more profit by getting trillions printed by the central bank (the FED).

Explain that you moronic piece of shit. You scum bag of a thinker.

 

If corporations committed felonies and do not get punished for it, what other name than corrupted, fascist capitalism can you give it?

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:17 | 6380090 mayhem_korner
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"...we have created a mutant form of predatory capitalism..."

 

Who's "we"?  Sleight-of-hand to socialize the cause.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 00:17 | 6380461 shovelhead
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Bad news.

It ain't working.

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:23 | 6380102 nmewn
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"Now, more than ever, with Greece and Ukraine front and center, understanding how corporations take control of countries..."

Really?

What "corporations" have control of Greece or the Ukraine? The "corporations" of the EU and Gazprom?

Greeks "voted for" moar debt without consequence and the Ukraine I could give a flyig fuck about.

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:32 | 6380124 Ms No
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Was anybody thinking what I was thinking when I saw all of those people who looked exactly alike sitting around the table? I think it can be summed up as... Zionists have decided that it's time to "let America blow away", if WWIII happens we are not coming out the other side.

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:35 | 6380129 Prober
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100% PURE WORTHLESS PROPAGANDA SHIT

JUST ANOTHER COLLECTIVIST SOCIALIST SCUMBAG WITH MORE KEYBOARD THAN INTELLECT

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 00:18 | 6380463 shovelhead
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You should take those medications with food.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 01:10 | 6380548 Bunga Bunga
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He does, but always at the computer, that's why his 'shift' key got stuck.

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:51 | 6380149 Monetas
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ISIS will never bother these cartoonists ! This puke is unworthy of any more comment .... I cede my space to Dutch Boy .... I'm more interested in chaos in Venezuela .... see ya there !

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 15:10 | 6382159 scaleindependent
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You are an idiot.

How do you explain the Banksters selling debt that can not be payed back. First making a profit by making the debt, then making a profit by packaging it and selling it to pensions, churches, then making a profit by SHORTING ("the bag of shit", by their own admision), then making more profit by getting TARP bail out, then making more profit by getting trillions printed by the central bank (the FED).

Explain that you moronic piece of shit. You scum bag of a thinker.

 

If corporations committed felonies and do not get punished for it, what other name than corrupted, fascist capitalism can you give it?

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:47 | 6380160 GRDguy
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Folks just have no sense of history, which is exactly why some of us have to stand by and watch while the fools repeat the same nonsense.  "Predatory Capitalism" or whatever you want to call it, has been around forever. It's just been since the 1600s that Corporations were formed to do the dirty work, and protect those behind them from the nationals they screwed blindly.  Barclays Bank was formed in 1690 and is still around.  Don't you think they've learned a thing or two about how to lie, steal and murder without going to jail.  They've even got a City of London Corporation where things illegal elsewhere are perfectly legal there.  Which pretty much explains the gold and silver manipulations before COMDEX even opens.  Of course, the NY financial mob have offices in London, so the dirty stuff gets done there.  It never ends become too many people are naive enough to keep doing business with them.  Sigh.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 00:22 | 6380473 shovelhead
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Does your Captain Obvious suit come with Spandex tights?

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 00:53 | 6380526 GRDguy
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I'm glad this is old and obvious information to you, but perhaps there's another 10,000 folks not so well versed. If they were already knowledgable, then we would not need ZeroHedge to converse at.  Wish it was so.

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:48 | 6380162 jcdenton
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Two, not so famous, but significant figures of history express the same, but in more graphic detail. (with guns, lots of guns, and bombs) Both were Marines. Both were generals. Both were Medal of Honor recipients. One actually was awarded two. One served under the other as a junior officer. That one, was JFK's favorite who was not an official member of the JCS at the time. That time was a very, very significant point in history. One was CMC. The other was to be CMC, but blacklisted. Who here is keen enough here to identify these two, and cite their individual works?

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 01:35 | 6380575 monad
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Thats real class. Thank you. For everything.

I hope the brainiacs try to find what was omitted from their edu, and why.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 06:53 | 6380794 cossack55
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John Wayne and Chuck Norris?

No?  Lindsey Graham and John McCain?

I know, I know....Gerald McRainey and Fred Gwynn.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 06:54 | 6380795 SmedleyButlersGhost
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Ahemm....while most recognized for his War is a Racket speech, Smedley Butler's story of how a cabal of bankers approached him to lead an attempt to take over the Fedeeral Government from FDR seems to have been consigned to the dustbin of history. See Jules Archer's book

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 11:43 | 6381368 Ace006
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Too bad he didn't take them up on their offer. Cincinnatus II.

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:52 | 6380178 DragonWings
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Oh gosh it ALMOST made me cry...

Actually beside the soothing voice that made me puke a little...

He is not far off one of our major problems. Capitalism is dead. I hate when people use terms like "predatory capitalism"... it is wrong!!!

First, capitalism is always predatory. As a capitalist... I perfectly know that capitalism as an economic system has to work within boundaries. If those boundaries are not in place... capitalism as an economic system has the tendency to seek efficiency in a predatory way... tending to create olygopolistic system. Funny the efficiency it seeks is lost somewhere along the way when olygopolystic behaviour set in place.

So we are NOT in a capitalistic economy anymore (yes we have private property but olygopoly has private property in the same way). The number of companies that control energy, food, insurance, banking, they all show clear signs of saturation and collusion. Also the defense industry is fucked up. I mean... I would love to remind everybody that due to the fact that we are NOT in a capitalistic system anymore, also our defense is overpriced. It means that our equipment is NOT worth what we pay for, which should makes us think twice before behaving like machos pounding our fists on the chest and shouting "bring it on... I am well equipped".

Some cases are so beyond inefficient like the F35, that not only we paid more, but they are also inferior to similar planes from other nations!!!

So this guy that made the movie... should indeed be jailed for stupidity, but he is onto something here...

:-D

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 21:59 | 6380196 DragonWings
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shiiiit, I said "first" and then I forgot the "second" point... if I had any...

:-D

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 00:26 | 6380482 shovelhead
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In the meantime you can take "olygopolystic" back to the drawing board.

Move some letters or shit around until it resembles a word or two.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 04:43 | 6380709 DragonWings
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bad, bad. I saw that. I cannot change it anymore!!! Sorry for the horrible sight. Mispellings are an eyesore. And it came in 3 different ways.

Olígos is a word that I hate so much that my hand refuses to comply :-D

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 09:32 | 6380970 J Jason Djfmam
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All I can get out of it is stoly pogo stick.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 10:49 | 6381193 Klaatuwept
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Never drink stoly on a pogo stick, bad idea trust me

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 22:35 | 6380277 eclectic syncretist
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TBTF banksters going predatory on credit unions......

http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/central-bank-to-cap-credit-unio...

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 22:00 | 6380202 Cabreado
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Well, damn you who pretend "capitalism" is the problem.

That comes from either ignorance, or a choice to take pressure off the corrupt.

And go figure -- what ails us is a twisted mess of ignorance and corruption.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 05:30 | 6380753 bunnyswanson
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Business people who come to the table with an undisclosed Bag of Tricks is the problem. 

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 22:17 | 6380245 22winmag
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More evidence the South was right!

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 09:33 | 6380973 J Jason Djfmam
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About what? It's warmer down here?

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 10:52 | 6381198 Klaatuwept
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Slavery and incest ?

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 22:39 | 6380285 VW Nerd
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After reading his (John Perkins') book, I was able to connect many unconnected dots.  Corporate racketeering on a global scale.  John was a mob goon enforcer during our engagement in Central America in the late 70's and 1980's.  99 percent of americans have no clue how the game has been and continues to be played or who and how bad the bad guys really are.  On one of my posts on another article, I posted "Know the truth. Ponder this..."  Something the 99 percent refuse to do.  They're too busy researching the latest on trans Jenner.

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 22:52 | 6380303 Reichstag Fire Dept.
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That (this) is not capitalism. Capitalism requires CAPITAL! ...not this fiat paper debt notes that they tell us is capital. 

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 22:53 | 6380306 Peter Pan
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Over the last decade the businesses of the middleclass have been bought or squeezed out by the big boys which has enabled them in turn to stay afloat.

But once they run out of middle class victims they will invariably turn on each other because they will find their customer base having become too poor to buy their products.

So war will continue in one shape or another.

 

 

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 23:03 | 6380328 Reaper
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What's new? Predatory lending? Loan sharks? Kind generous priests inviting young boys?

There is no free lunch. There is no good banker. Gifts and loans are bait.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 13:09 | 6381710 NeoLuddite
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Here in Alberta Canada the alternate lenders are charging 600 % APR for payday loans and advances.

And it's legal!

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 23:12 | 6380351 q99x2
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I think the world should be globalists. At UCLA people from everywhere are getting the same grades. The corporations are what don't want democratic globalism. They want to use NATO forces against the entire world's populations. Let's make our own world government without them.

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 23:35 | 6380402 DragonWings
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Let me guess... the smartest in your class?

:-D

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 09:35 | 6380976 J Jason Djfmam
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Let's destroy about 99% of government on every level and try it there.

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 23:21 | 6380375 Rebel yell
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I read " Confession of an Economic Hitman" by John Perkins about 5 years ago. It really opened my eyes! It is a must read.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 09:46 | 6381000 headhunt
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Perkins points too the corruption and sins but his end game is the destructive disease called liberalism which always results in misery and death of a country and its people.

 

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 23:23 | 6380378 VW Nerd
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Kevin Trudeau shed light on the pharma mega corporations and the monopoly protection they enjoy through regulation. Congress, as gatekeeper has made it financially impossible to bring an effective, low cost remedy to market.  He obviously stepped on some toes.  He got totally shut down.  Kooky, maybe.  He did shed light on how gov/corp work to the economic detriment of consumers.

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 23:28 | 6380388 The Ram
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To respond to JC D,s question. The two Marine Corps generals were Butler and Shoup. Shoup won over JFK by impressing upon the Joint Chiefs the potentially huge cost of launching an invasion of Cuba. As the story goes, Shoup overplayed a map of the island of Tarawa over Cuba and indicated that the little spec of land that was Tarawa cost the Marines over 5,000 casualties.

This impressed JFK because he was actually quite skeptical of the war in the Pacific. In fact, if you really check into JFK view of the Pacific war, he saw it he basic strategy of the Pacific as a huge meandering waste. When Shoup explained the potential loses, JFK was impressed that a General actually considered the price to be paid.

Ok, did I pass the quiz?

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 00:59 | 6380533 PADRAEG
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You seem insufficiently aware of how much Ike cared, & how successful he was at minimizing casualties. JFK had his good points, obviouisly Bay of Pigs was not one of them. 

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 23:54 | 6380428 WTFUD
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Thoroughly enjoyed reading the considered comments on this post. If you keep this up 'Deep State' sooner rather than later will establish 'just cause ' to take Z/H off-line.

Sat, 08/01/2015 - 23:56 | 6380430 RaceToTheBottom
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Eating your own children is a later stage of Capitalism.

It prompts the goal of having cannon fodder citizens to stomp on and allow the .1% to abuse.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 09:41 | 6380986 headhunt
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Where exactly is this 'capitalism'?

The top 1% are primarily made up of leftists stealing from US citizens.

The US has been engulfed by leftists and their illegal hordes stealing elections and an entire country.

The leftists are a disease on the world and will consume it like locusts if given the opportunity.

Free shit for everyone and misery for all.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 13:23 | 6381783 RaceToTheBottom
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If you are going to blather on about theft, at least get the numbers right.  

The bankster steal way more than the fat welfare lady killing herself eating fried chicken on welfare dollars specifically designed to keep the slaves and uninformed staying uninformed and not focusing on the real thieves.

 

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 19:42 | 6382990 Ace006
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RTTB confuses capitalism with centralization, political and economic. Resisting centralization requires more intelligence, historical knowledge, patriotism, time, money, and focus than normal, healthy citizens have. Jay Walking, Watter's World, two hours in a Greyhound bus station, and one hour listening to a college sociology, wymyn'studies or black studies professor are, um, indictative of more than we care to admit.

Against motivated, intelligent psychopaths and sociopaths the fight for decentralized government is doomed to fail. 

The Constitution and the anti-trust laws could not prevail over the centralizers. A 1% is inevitable. No exceptions unless it's Switzerland and small, poor nations or tribes.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 00:04 | 6380434 Element
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I'll just point-out that this "predatory capitalism" propaganda theme that is doing the rounds, is the ideological softening-up 'artillery', prior to the full-scale nationalist communist invasion frenzy to come, in places like China, Russia, and others ideologically aligned or sympathetic.

Careful what you wish for, as you aren't going to like either.

But one you will not like, less.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 00:26 | 6380481 kerr
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Leftist propaganda bullshit

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 00:35 | 6380500 shovelhead
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A scintillating rejoinder.

Would you care to expand on that line of thought?

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 00:28 | 6380488 GRDguy
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One of the main predators (KKR founder) passed away today according to WSJ.  Sun Tzu quote:

“If you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by.”
Sun, 08/02/2015 - 00:40 | 6380511 shovelhead
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I don't know about enemies, but if you're waiting by a Chinese river, you're sure to see a pig or few thousand float by.

Moo Shi Pork.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 01:20 | 6380564 TeethVillage88s
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No Reference to Police intended I guess.

Yeah, there is a lot in Asian rivers. And in the Tutsi war in Rwanda there were a lot of people in the rivers.

Heard on Drudge that there were a lot of fish cooking in the lakes or rivers this week. Like 160 degrees or something.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 14:00 | 6381923 RaceToTheBottom
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It would be interesting to have heard what he thought of what Wall Street has turned into.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 00:48 | 6380523 DeusHedge
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we laugh, the archo-capitalists. The reality is simple. If you're not eating it in your kellogs, it's in your medication, your drugs, or your water. Greed is a sickness. I'm less afraid of an economic collapse so much as the real reality, that is, cyberpunk, fascism, orwellian state run by retarded cronies as the real nightmare. I think some people who post here are crazy, but there are slaves who we have yet to recognize who hold all the cards to our wellbeing.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 01:14 | 6380556 dexter_morgan
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Welcome to the new Zerohedge, also known as HUFFPO-lite. LOL, what a load of crap.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 01:30 | 6380571 TeethVillage88s
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I met the guy he is a hard ass. He is for real. He has been working this stuff and trying to build people that want to help for like 18 years that I can confirm.

I call you are bull shit.

I don't agree with John Perkins treating me like crap, but he worked for 30 years as a hit man.

Fuck him if he won't help me or has no time for one guy.

But he probably always did help people that were sharp, wanted to discuss the issues, who were awake, and who were real individuals.

But I met him. I didn't see him as fake. You are just a troll. You don't know all his attempts.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 01:41 | 6380583 dexter_morgan
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Hey, call whatever you like. I don't care if you met him or not, but what he is describing is no form of capitalism, it is facism mixed with Fabian socialism. Perhaps he has been fighting the wrong battle.

Not sure I comprehend what you are trying to say about him helping some people, not helping you, or whatever, but the fact of the matter is he is describing facism enabled by central banking and fiat money not worth the paper it's printed on. Big corporatism only flourishes when they own big government.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 09:03 | 6380931 falak pema
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Big corporatism + Big government = Pax Americana around the world since 1945.

Now tell me do you wipe your ass with real paper or with virtual paper?

Cos if its  "virtual" you ass will be always dirty and thats Perkin's whole point.

While yours is : my ass is clean as I believe in true capitalism ....

Who lives in reality? You or Perkins? 

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 09:35 | 6380978 headhunt
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Lots of infiltration by socio/communists on ZH these days

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 03:19 | 6380661 smacker
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The narrator, in describing the problem of predatory capitalism, fails to mention that it cannot happen without explicit support and assistance from government, both legislatively, financially and militarily.

IOW vast sums of taxpayers money is spent to promote it, pave the way for it and to enforce it when necessary. Invariably with a large payback to the political elites from the corporate sector by way of revolving doors.

"predatory capitalism" = "corporatism" = "fascism" = "jackboots".

This is what we see happening in America and the West today.

 

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 03:50 | 6380675 monad
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In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. There is no safe store of value. If there were, the government would have to make its holding illegal, as was done in the case of gold. If everyone decided, for example, to convert all his bank deposits to silver or copper or any other good, and thereafter declined to accept checks as payment for goods, bank deposits would lose their purchasing power and government-created bank credit would be worthless as a claim on goods. The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves.

This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists' tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights. If one grasps this, one has no difficulty in understanding the statists' antagonism toward the gold standard. Alan Greenspan 1966

 

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 03:56 | 6380677 farmerbraun
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It still seems to me that ownership of land is not a bad bet: there is no more of it being made ' and the demand is increasing at present.
And it returns a good income while increasing in value.
What is not to like?

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 03:58 | 6380679 farmerbraun
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Apart from the fact that one has to work the land to obtain the stated benefits, that is.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 08:43 | 6380882 jemlyn
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What is not to like?  Property taxes, regulations on use of land, etc.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 09:41 | 6380985 ThrowAwayYourTV
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A couple of years ago I got tired of the banksters lending my hard earned income out at 18 and 24% to some poor unknowing bastard and only giving me a 1/2% on it. So I took every bit of cash that I had in savings and paid cash for a large piece of land with plenty of hardwood and a nice stream on it.

Then I started building a camp cabin on it, which is almost finished.

I figure when I go I will leave it to the boys who will enjoy it as much or more than I do. And they will be able to sit there and say, "I remember when dad built that fireplace. Or, I remember when dad got drunk and fell off the picnic table trying to tie that tarp over it.

Much better than, I remember when dad gave us all his money and we blew through it like a couple of drunkin sailors.

In fact! I'm off to there in just a few minutes. Maybe I'll get to hear that moose snorting again today.

Mon, 08/03/2015 - 03:08 | 6383910 monad
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It seems to me you have to DYOH.

No more hints. Nada. When God looks me over I will not have your toothmarks in my Tralfamadorian body.

Make sure you understand this. Some men made you possible. Men died for you. Women delivered you, and raised you.

Enemies abound. Fuck multi-RACISM, kill all the liars. Fuck multi-RACISM.

You Brits feeling Irish yet? You better get it. Soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31E1gHowYcA

Michael O'Heyne

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 05:46 | 6380760 Tigg47
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Bitgold. I want payment in Bitgold.

 

Mon, 08/03/2015 - 02:25 | 6383904 monad
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TILT

Mon, 08/03/2015 - 02:33 | 6383908 monad
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Distribute over all EMP impact and you've got bitDrachma.

Antarctica, or satellite.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 04:09 | 6380678 Batman11
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Capitalism is pretty much the same as every other social system since the dawn of man.

The many toil to provide a life of luxury and leisure for a few at the top.

The UK's aristocracy has seen social systems come and go, but they all provide a life of leisure and luxury with someone else doing all the work.

One of the main differences between today and earlier social systems is the discovery of the “carrot” as well as the “stick” to motivate the masses to provide for the few.

Today’s harsher Capitalism is more “stick” and less “carrot” as it seeks to return to an earlier form that existed at the beginning of the 20th Century.

Whatever the ratios of “stick” and “carrot” those at the top still seem to be able to live a life of luxury and leisure.

Today they are just being greedy.

(In the UK the idle rich are more on display thanks to reporting on the Royal Family and their idle associates) 

 

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 08:40 | 6380873 falak pema
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As one famous statesman was apt to say : A LIE with its skirt up moves faster around the world than the TRUTH with its pants down.

I think that predatory capitalism, based on leveraged buy outs and surrounding media hype about "Capitalism's Occam razor shaving clean" to give shareholder maximum return, is a bit like that sexy witch with her skirt up !

It looks a good proposition until you get close up ! 

Mon, 08/03/2015 - 01:11 | 6383805 Ace006
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You still cling to the idea that it's some kind of capitalism that's at issue. Fraud, unfair competition, fraudulent transfers, breach of contract, monopoly, excessive regulation, confiscatory taxes, etc. hamper and distortion free markets. Outrageous crony capitalism and fooling with money, financial instruments,  and equities, and throwing factories, IP, and trade privileges at foreigners have created the 1% and the impoverishment of the middle class and savers we like to talk about.

But this is "capitalism" that is "predatory"?

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 04:05 | 6380683 Batman11
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This is different?

1920s/2000s - high inequality, high banker pay, low regulation, low taxes for the wealthy, robber barons, globalisation phase

1929/2008 - Wall Street crash

1930s/2010s - Global recession, currency wars, rising nationalism and extremism

1940s/? - Global war

 

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 04:04 | 6380685 Batman11
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Capitalism works best with competition.

It used to have that from Communism and those at the top feared Communism and revolution and so had to show Capitalism worked for everyone.

Now the competition is gone and the 0.1% can funnel everything up to themselves.

The older generation grew up with a more benign form of Capitalism and everyone was allowed to acquire some Capital.

But now Capitalism has no competition the younger generation are screwed. 

The inherent trickle up effect of Capitalism:

a) Those with excess capital invest it and collect interest, dividends and rent.

b) Those with insufficient capital borrow money and pay interest and rent.

Which category do the young fall into a or b?

The inequality of the 1920s was due to lowering taxes for the wealthy, much like today.

When inequality is growing taxes are at an insufficient level to balance the natural trickle up effect within Capitalism.

(The trickledown effect was an invention of US billionaires looking to lower their tax bills).

Mon, 08/03/2015 - 01:15 | 6383813 Ace006
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Interesting points. Too simple a view re taxes, esp. as regards incentives. Not only the super rich are affected by lower taxes.

Mon, 08/03/2015 - 01:15 | 6383814 Ace006
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Interesting points. Too simple a view re taxes, esp. as regards incentives. Not only the super rich are affected by lower taxes.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 04:11 | 6380690 pcrs
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I don't understand why people still call it capitalism. It's like calling the Soviet Union a mutant for of monarchy or facist Germany a mutant welfare Republic. The last one even makes more sense,  since the violence underpinning the welfare state I trounced by Bismarck has to flow naturally to the facist oppressive state when the money runs out.

Sun, 08/02/2015 - 11:58 | 6381421 redd_green
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Most of us, too many of us, are easily confused by sound bytes.   What people confuse the most is capitalism (an ideal),  and corruption (the real).  

Mon, 08/03/2015 - 01:17 | 6383818 Ace006
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Yes.

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