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Chinese Company Replaces Humans With Robots, Production Skyrockets, Mistakes Disappear
"I believe that anyone who has a job and works full time, they should be able to pay the things that sustain life: food, shelter and clothing. I can't even do that."
That rather depressing quote is from 61-year old Rebecca Cornick. She’s a grandmother and a 9-year Wendy’s veteran who spoke to CBS News. Rebecca makes $9 an hour and her plight is representative of fast food workers across the country who are campaigning for higher pay.
The fast food worker pay debate is part of a larger discussion as "states and cities across the country [wrestle] with the idea of raising the minimum wage," CBS notes, adding that "right now, 29 states have minimums above the federal $7.25 an hour [and] four cities, including Los Angeles, have doubled their minimum to $15."
Proponents of raising the pay floor argue that it’s simply not possible to live on minimum wage and indeed, there’s plenty of evidence to suggest that they’re right. Opponents say forcing employers to pay more will simply mean that companies will fire people or stop hiring and indeed, as we highlighted on Friday, it looks as though WalMart’s move to implement an across-the-board pay raise for its low-paid workers may have contributed to a decision to layoff around 1,000 people at its home office in Bentonville.
"The reality is that most business are not going to pay $15 dollars an hour and keep their doors open," one Burger King franchisee told CBS. "It just won't happen. The economics don't work in this industry. There is a limit to what you're going to pay for a hamburger."
Yes, there’s only so much people will pay for a hamburger which is why Ronald McDonald has made an executive decision to hire more efficient employees at some locations:
With all of that in mind, consider the following from TechRepublic who tells the story of Changying Precision Technology Company, which has replaced almost all of its human employees with robots to great success:
In Dongguan City, located in the central Guangdong province of China, a technology company has set up a factory run almost exclusively by robots, and the results are fascinating.
The Changying Precision Technology Company factory in Dongguan has automated production lines that use robotic arms to produce parts for cell phones.
The factory also has automated machining equipment, autonomous transport trucks, and other automated equipment in the warehouse.
There are still people working at the factory, though. Three workers check and monitor each production line and there are other employees who monitor a computer control system. Previously, there were 650 employees at the factory. With the new robots, there's now only 60. Luo Weiqiang, general manager of the company, told the People's Daily that the number of employees could drop to 20 in the future.
The robots have produced almost three times as many pieces as were produced before. According to the People's Daily, production per person has increased from 8,000 pieces to 21,000 pieces. That's a 162.5% increase.
The increased production rate hasn't come at the cost of quality either. In fact, quality has improved. Before the robots, the product defect rate was 25%, now it is below 5%.
So to anyone planning on picketing the local McDonald’s in an attempt to secure a 70% wage hike, be careful, because this "guy" is ready to work, doesn’t need breaks, and never makes a mistake:
Let’s just hope he doesn’t become self aware.
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They ARE cute!
Do humans make the robots or do robots make the robots?
Are the Robots allowed to join Robo-Unions? ;-)
Looney
We are now entering the post-Jobs era. Surplus humans will be exterminated.
OT. Sorry to hijack. Does anyone know if Jim Stone is ok? His site is down again. Stuck on and old page view.
As Sempai, do you think there is ever going to be a day where humans and robots can peacefully co-exist?
Humans wiped out all other intelligent species on this Earth. I expect the robots to do likewise.
It really is just another step in the natural order of things.
Unless robots can figure out how to capture and store energy efficiently, they are doomed long before humans.
Modern society is nothing but a sick joke without cheap energy.
Oh they can do what human can not/will not do.
Hopefully the robots will buy 3 times as many units.
Can you say next leg down in the Job market.
The long term question is, if your not working, then who is going to buy this stuff?
Layoff / Closing List: http://www.dailyjobcuts.com
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I dunno....I've just got this creepy feeling that Asimov's laws of robotics just aren't going to be adhered to very closely by the robots of the NWO technocratic sociopaths...especially the first law...just a hunch...
Asimov's "Three Laws of Robotics"Hmmm... that list looks strangely familiar.
Oh, I know:
Paveway's "Three Laws of Psychopathic Governments"
Interesting. Do robots require government officials? I see a dilemma.
They do require maintenance, resources and energy to do their jobs but can they become completely self sufficient without humanity? Obviously the goal.
Miffed
Robots are already replacing surgeons for many procedures. The Da Vinci robotic surgery system has improved patient outcomes and reduced costs.
http://www.davincisurgery.com/da-vinci-surgery/da-vinci-procedures/
Yes, american workers better not band together to fight for better wages and working conditions - lest they be replaced by robots like the workers in china who fought for better wages / working conditions and were replaced by robots. Oh wait.. that's not what happened and the two stories have absolutely fuck-all to do with each other.
...weekend tyler got some weakass arguments as usual.
I prefer robots replacing humans in jobs, than a human become a robot to fill a job.
... " ... Company Replaces Humans With Robots ..."
... another advantage ... reduced 'human' sexual harassments in the workplace ... unless the perverts would find some 'use' for those robots ... ;) ...
Luckily, robots will never be able to execute financial trades or create the complex financial instruments that define the most important humans of the planet.
... I wonder if those pilots and flight attendants with top-level security clearance flying the taxpayer-funded "secret" government airline operating out of McCarran terminal in Vegas are also "robots" ... its designated airline "call-name" is "JANET" ... find out what JANET stands for in this video report >>> http://www.businessinsider.com/us-government-secret-airline-janet-2015-7 ...
"We are now entering the post-Jobs era. Surplus humans will be exterminated."
Through forced vaccinations.
The Luddites are here!
The Luddites are here!
This thread has over 500 comments! Too bad most are like yours.
Whoa, thats some secret.
I prefer humans to have an income.
Robot or person..., whichever one doesn't leave their frikkin dirty dishes soaking in the breakroom sink is who I'm for...
Do the chrome ones work harder and follow instructions better than the anodized ones?
At least I hope these robots don't have 'da attitood' I get with some of these McDs counter people these days.
I had researched the davinci for a surgery I was to have years ago. I found in routine surgery it was good however in a complicated one, post operative bleeding and complications were worse. Plus the surgery may have to be abandoned for conventional in the middle of the surgery. I opted for an experienced human and fortunately had no complications. How many will trust a robot when clinically they are still gathering the long term effects of its use? I chose not to be a guinea pig.
Radiologists and Anesthesiologists are threatened as well. Very high paying careers will end.
Miffed
I also opted out of davinci for my surgery I had last October. Which was a good thing, as complications (with me, not the surgery) did arise and I ended up needing two surgeons, one with fine nerve reconstruction experience.
They did an amazing job, I owe them my current good quality of life and I do not think a robot could have made that call.
There is zero chance I would trust a robotic anesthesiologist...or radiologist.
I had Davinci drain my anal sacks. He did a good job. I cannot complain.
Just waiting for the robotic ambulance chasing lawyers...
http://www.youhavealawyer.com/robot-surgery/da-vinci-complications/
Hyperbolic fool. This is nothing more than an advanced scalpel. It permits keyhole surgery, which is why there are improved outcomes. The surgeon is in 100% manual control of all activity. I've both witnessed and assisted in procedures where they are used. It's a wonderful device.
Nice downvotes assholes. Does anyone care to describe the Davinci's AI suite? No? Oh that's right, it doesn't have one. Your ABS breaks are more in control of your car than this fucking tool is of a surgery. Fight Club indeed.
If we continue to allow ourselves to be ruled over by corporate and bankster oligarchs, we will all inevitably wind up in the Terminator's world.
Not to worry. New technologies like the blockchain are quickly making those people obsolete. Colored coins cover pretty much every non-violent function of government (recording of contracts and such). Just straight up bitcoin lets you be your own banker AND central banker if you want to do some mining.
The other techs will be similar. I foresee an endgame where everyone has an AGI or ASI robot to do any and all labor for them. Every human becomes the CEO of his own corporation. He makes most of what he needs for himself via his robot(s), and some specialized goods for trade (conducted via the robots as well, I'll trade you ten servos for that solar panel, etc).
People would do well to abandon the "employee" mentality and start working for themselves. It is something that will get easier and easier as time goes on.
I hope you're right, TM. I'm not as optimistic until the criminal cabal is done away with entirely.
@tmosley
the economic model you describe is a lot more liberating than the "good old days 1990s" where an employee works at a dead end retail job being micromanaged by an over bloated chain of command. A senior manager tells the assistant manager who tells the supervisor who tells you how to stock a shelf.
I say get rid of the shelf, get rid of the leased commercial space the shelf sits on, fire all of the useless employees, have a mobile app for the customer to see the product on, and have robots take care of the logistics, pass the savings on to the customer.
In 20 years, 3d printers will be as common as clothes washers and dryers are people's homes. If you need something, download the specs off of a wiki type site and print it.
I know this challenges the boomer's mindset of daddy boss making you work 8 to 5 for a wage and a pension, after dealing with a bunch of frivolous useless busy work. The employment model needs to go ASAP.
I've posted this before, but I'll repost it again for those who missed it...
The Abolition of Work by Bob Black
http://www.primitivism.com/abolition.htm
I am a fan of the Bob Black essays - especially Electing Not To Vote, my favorite. First read it in the 1980's.
As for the skilled trades and other work which requires great flexibility of thought and action like electricians, plumbers, auto mechanics, farmers, fishing and hunting guides etc. all will be well into the future. Just avoid work that can be done mindlessly and with little variation and on the spot creativity. On the other hand, a government of ethically programmed robots would be a great concept!
Texting skills will be in great demand.
Add that to your Face page for the love of mike!
I was born in 1946. I was educated to believe in daddy boss. In 1972 I quit the job that my ma & pa & I had dreamed I would get-and-keep for the rest of my life. 1972 to 2015=43 years of learning to live outside the system. It has been no bed of roses but I'm debt-free, not starving and thanking God, morning, noon & night. I am not alone.
Bob nails it.
Always nice to read something that is fresh yet you immediately know it's the truth as still coded into the last vestiges of your hunter-gatherer DNA. Being somewhat of a mesolithic and neolithic culture junkie I can attest that the meaningfulness of life (including the concept of the word "freedom") probably took a big turn for the worse upon the advent and spread of agricultural civilization which required the control structures that grew into what ails us all today.
Thanks for the link it was much appreciated...
WTF???
"...I say get rid of the shelf, get rid of the leased commercial space the shelf sits on, fire all of the useless employees, have a mobile app for the customer to see the product on, and have robots take care of the logistics, pass the savings on to the customer..."
REALLY?? Where have you EVER heard of that happening?
That's the most absolutely God damn NAIVE f'king thing I've ever heard here... NO - the most NAIVE think I've ever heard anywhere. The savings get passed on to the OWNERS - ALWAYS - 100% OF THE TIME. What bizzaro world do you live in??
You're not the real The9thDoctor... What have you done with him, you bastard??
Uhhh, everything is cheaper online. Costs less to do business there, so the products cost less.
Owners might keep the profit for a little while, but then someone else will come into the market and charge a little less, then another will charge a little less than that, and so on, until prices reach a new equilibrium.
"...Uhhh, everything is cheaper online..."
Really? You're certain? EVERYTHING? Do tell...
"...Costs less to do business there, so the products cost less..."
...er... no. This would be A theoretical reason that SOME products may cost less SOMETIME online, but it ignores the dozens of other reasons that go into pricing and sales, or in the consumer's decision to chose a merchant, price or product.
"....Owners might keep the profit for a little while, but then someone else will come into the market and charge a little less, then another will charge a little less than that, and so on, until prices reach a new equilibrium..."
Then everyone should have been shopping at Wal*Mart, then everyone should have switched to Amazon, and now everyone should be shopping on Craig's List with bitcoins from manufacturer's direct outlets. See the problem in your 'cost of doing business - price equilibrium' model?
The other techs will be similar. I foresee an endgame where everyone has an AGI or ASI robot to do any and all labor for them. Every human becomes the CEO of his own corporation. He makes most of what he needs for himself via his robot(s), and some specialized goods for trade (conducted via the robots as well, I'll trade you ten servos for that solar panel, etc).
I like your utopian vision and at some point a similar flat economy may be possible, but currently it's whoever has the biggest computer wins and that will continue to be the case for a long time. There will be growing pains.
This phenomenon is already pronounced with the internet where you have a lot of industry/ people losing big time and all the gains going to a select few who are positioned closest to the biggest computers. It's not clear to anyone (that I've come across) there is a solution to this without a radically new approach to economy / society.
Why do critics always label a more efficient way of doing things a "utopia"?
Today in 2015, we are a "utopia" compared to the factory workers of the late 19th century. We have shorter shifts, easy access to credit, cars, houses, appliances, internet access, water treatment, landfills. Ironically the US has more acres of forest today than it did a century ago.
Today is obviously not a utopia, but comparatively speaking to centuries past, one could argue that it is.
I know most people like to stay stagnant and never grow, and never face challenges. For me, I'm the opposite, as I always want change. Unfortunately a certain politician abused that word, so the word "change" goes over the heads of most of this site's readership.
Speak for yourself, asshat -
Never presume to classify a Hedge reader ! Got it?
Sorry, Dr. Asshat ...
Why do critics always label a more efficient way of doing things a "utopia"?
I wasn't being critical, but when people suggest systems radically evolved from current utopian seems a fine word.
Dystopian also comes to mind.
With cloud technology, EVERYONE has the biggest computer. My PHONE can recognize my voice and transcribe it accurately.
The first AGI/ASI most people will be exposed to will likely be served through their phones. For a while, we will act like its hands--it will walk us through preparing a gourmet meal, rebuilding a transmission, or assembling a new 3-d printer. Not long after, someone will get smart and come up with a robotic attachment that you just hook your phone to and we're off to the races.
Crypto-tokens like the block-chain force a divide between those who control the traffic and those who do not.
With universal platforms you and everyone else would price the resorces higher then the labor to make it. So robots only help first in users, as only those robots would be competeing with human labor after that its robot vs robot.
The "employee" mentality is forced labor. You are just not allowed by millitary might to do your own thing, just ask half of those in prison.
Step back and look at it through the lens of control, force, and domination. For that is what all tools that can be used for, will be.
"Guaranteed Three Laws Safe".
If we could get humans to follow those same three laws....
The humans we have built are going to lose out to robots.
your asimov rules are shit from an past dusty utopist book writer.
reality is :
on earth 60% of the dating are internet website based now...
last decade japan made dildo with usb wifi and sensor to put your dick on plastick to be fucked other dildo reproducing movment in pussy of any other person who got the link and the program...
a physicial exetention to skype in other words...
i am oldshool guy, when a computer crash, do not want to reboot, or obey, i got the ac cable in hand and i unplug it.
me 1 - computer 0.
if one day a computer based entity try to fuck with me, i will install him a 45 acp upgrade.
end of discuss.
~"Hopefully the robots will buy 3 times as many units."~
Screw that, I hope they can learn to drink whiskey, smoke cigars and sit around in their underwear on weekends. Then they can be my equals!
Bender for president.
Foxconn finally realizes they have gone too far when the robots start jumping out the window ...
BTW Tyler, what's with the "So to anyone planning on picketing the local McDonald’s in an attempt to secure a 70% wage hike, be careful, because this 'guy' is ready to work, doesn’t need breaks, and never makes a mistake" bullshit??????
Hmmm, what to do, what to do, work three times faster and make 5 times less mistakes, work for 6% of my previous wage (depending on how the calcs work out) or let the robot do the job? Gee, I dunno, maybe if only I work hard- FUCKIT! LET THE ROBOT DO THE FUCKING JOB!!!! THAT WAS THE WHOLE FUCKING IDEA IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!
What are you going to do? Work for a third of a Chinese wage? 6%? (Depending on how mistakes affect production). STOP PRETENDING WE NEED JOBS. WE DON'T. WE ONLY NEED PRODUCTION. AND THEN WE NEED TO RE-THINK DISTRIBUTION!!! But as long as you're stuck in your bullshit idealistic 100% Anarcho-Capitalist vs Communist/Socialist paradigm you'll never see it. You'll replace people with robots, wonder why all the customers disappeared, destroy excess production (becoz no-one is buying anything so their must be no demand!) and send everyone back to slavery "becoz their iz no better way! The God of the Fwee Markits haz spoken!"
"Gee, if only I worked harder and cheaper than that 350 tonne dumptruck, I cood have a jaawwb!"
"There's plenty of work, if only everyone worked for nothing, then employers cood hire infinite employees!!!"
"If only those horses worked harder and didn't want to eat hay all the time. They cood hav kept their jawwwbs! The motor car would never have been invented!"
Cut the fucking bullshit. We live in the era of the awkward transition. A few jobs are still necessary, but if we get it right then perhaps one day no jobs will be necessary. Then we can attend to more interesting matters. Machine is 3 times faster? That means we can work a third of the hours for the same production, does it not? So can the Chinese now work 30 hours per week instead of 90 hours per week? Now you can hire 3 Chinamen instead of one because the excess production pays their wages? Oh no, the excess savings are passed onto the customer. Yeah, sure they are ...
Still can't wait for the robots to replace the CEOs. That's where the real savings are.
Check out number 8:
http://listverse.com/2010/03/23/10-pretty-stupid-business-moves/
Of course, people will interpret this as "The more efficient survive" or whatever and that is true. What is ALSO true is that in the beginning they off-shored the blue-collar jobs and in the end they "off-shored the CEO" too.
Robot CEOs? We may have to wait a little longer, but we can hope.
Robot CEOs may be difficult. What will be even more difficult is "doing it right".
Nothing a few tariffs couldn't fix
PT's comment was the best one I have read on this automation topic on Zero Hedge in a long time.
I don't have much to add to it, because PT summed everything up.
ever watch the Zeitgeist films?
I saw all three Zeitgeists. I saw the first one back in 2007 on the old Google Video.
Peter Joseph is really cool guy. Very recently, he broke ties with the Venus Project, which I'm glad he did. Jacque Fresco has some interesting ideas, but his ego gets in his way. I have some fundamental disagreements with some of Fresco's ideas which I won't go into on here because it's beyond the scope of Zero Hedge.
Here's an excellent interview Peter Joseph on London Real
https://youtu.be/4-bdr68jHe8?t=9m24s
I liked how Peter evolved views. He now advocates abandoning Fresco's centralized computer and having a Linux-type decentralized computer to manage resources. This would liberate the people as opposed to a technocratic elite running things.
Peter in that interview also said that Buckminster Fuller was the original "solution" in the second Zeitgeist. Had Peter used that as opposed to Venus Project, he would would have had less division in the Zeitgeist Movement.
Robert Kiyosaki who made the Rich dad Poor Dad series also advocates Buckminster Fuller as a solution to today's economic inequality in His "Second Chance" documentary...
https://youtu.be/4KHUsdZeKoc
I will check those out. Thanks for the links. For those not familiar, robotics is a big part of it. Here is Peter being interviewed by Jesse Ventura;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6F1ZAncqM8
I just watched the Jesse Ventura and Peter Joseph interview. It was excellent!
Production and distribution are largely privatised. Re-distribution would require that the distributors have a conscience, and they don't. They're not going to get it all of a sudden either. There is no intention of a free-basic-necessities-for-everyone-so-we-can-work-on-greater-things model, which is the scale of production we are not only capable of, but are currently at.
But that's just one aspect of it. You have publik skooling, teevee, and what have you. It'll one big clusterfuckatrix.
There are 7 billion people on the planet and it doubles every 40 years. There is only productive work for about 2 billion. The rest are parasites.
Now the social welfare loonies want to forcibly raise wages, so the few productive workers have no choice but to support even more parasites. The only reasonable defense against that is to hire fewer workers and get more robots. When the human population isn't so out of whack, this won't be a problem any more.
EXACTLY THIS PT THANK FUCKING YOU. IM FED UP WITH PEOPLE THINKING WE NEED JOBS. NO WE FUCKING DON'T. SPECIALLY JOBS THAT REQUIRE MINDLESS DRONE WORK FOR 10 HOURS A DAY. THAT IS NOT LIFE.
Here's your reward for participating.
http://www.certificates4teachers.com/images/participation04.gif
You can fill it in yourself.
The robots are already more than capable of replacing the fast food worker, and we'll see that happen in the next couple of years.
Check this out (600 custom burgers an hour): http://www.gizmag.com/hamburger-machine/25159/
“It is not the strongest or the most intelligent who will survive but those who can best manage change.”
? Leon C. Megginson
Sadly, this increases downward wage-pressures on most of the rest of us
Ever hear of the truck driver who became a nurse?
But I don't want an industrial burger, I want my burger hand crafted by buger artisans! <- See what I did there? Just made a new industry.
And who will these artisan burger makers be employed by? More small biz? One would hope so, but small biz as a whole is under threat of extinction from the ever increasing regulations.
When I worked at the local Subway at the end of hi-skool, my job title was "sandwich artist." LOLOLO!
Nice thing about a robotic workforce is that it removes a lot of regulatory interference. No salries to pay. No workman's comp. No OSHA. No minimum wage laws. Etc.
So how are Thugs going to hold up Robots?
How about the knockout punches?
I expect a suit from the NAACP any moment!
yes but what do buger artisans have to do with food?
Bugger artisans craft the laws..?
“It is not the strongest or the most intelligent who will survive but those who can best manage change.”
Leon C. Megginson
Methinks the most intelligent overlap heavily into the second group.
Methinks you haven't been to prison-- yet, fortunate man-- and haven't had to fight-off "The Thing" or "Superman" (who leaps tall men in a single-bound)!
And in Cambodia, when Pol Pot wished to enact "cultural-change", remember who they went after first (note the popularity of stupidity and ignorance in USSA culture and be wary, my friend).
Not too knowledgeable about prison - haven't been there - but as far as my limited understanding goes they are not known for being dynamic environments in the evolutionary sense. Prisoners tend to know where their next meal is coming from, where they will be sleeping that night etc.
I haven't been to prison in several years, but I can claim some insight based on personal and professional exerience.
Some are there because (as you said) it's 3-hots-and-a-cot. And maybe needed medical care. (if you're lucky... ...no insurance required as lack of care would be considered a human rights violation (where there is some oversight), in contrast to the outside). Or a sense of routine and stability-- something too difficult to find in the outside world for many.
But others got jacked by the system-- being poor can seriously limit your options. And once you are in, you are totally emersed in the evolutionary food-chain in the most rawest sense-- a life not limited or governed so much as by law as by cunning and power.
I don't know why the hell you were junked, maybe because that you did not recognize that prisons actually are indeed "very dynamic in the evolutionary sense" in the context of Darwin's emphisis on adaptability. And for that, be grateful for your limited understanding of this: some things, and awareness of these things, is sometimes best gained second-hand.
PT that was fantastic!
You forgot...Robots don't need to borrow any money either! No need for credit. Yay!!
Excellent post. Zerohedge should JUST stick to reporting on the MARKETS and not even the economy which they have no clue how real economy works, which they show by often quoting the incredibly stupid but terribly wrong Margaret Thatcher about Socialists running out of other peoples money.
NO you run out of people for elites to loot and who can no longer support the 1%, that's why economies collapse. The BOTTOM does all the work and pays for everything, the TOP does not do anything other than behave like a parasite.
When businesses no longer require workers or profits...you think they'll give the technology to YOU, so YOU can be free?
They won't need your money. They won't need your labor. Politicians won't even care about your vote at that point, because you have no power over them.
The whole point of Fight Club was this: "Listen to us peons at the bottom, because we make your food, wash your car, etc."
When we no longer do that, we have no voice...we're just useless eaters waiting to be culled. The politicians will just write laws making it illegal or impossible for the common man to have 3D printers/Robots, and we won't be able to rise up to the level of businesses because money (and therefore the whole model of an exchange based culture) is moot.
The people need to take the power away from the abusers. This should be the focus. How the fuck do we get there? I guess we fight. Wish I enjoyed fighting.
Uhh, the technology is already out there. You can download machine learning software that will run on your PC TODAY. Everyone has a cloud based AI assistant in their pocket.
People will rise up to the level of business, even without money. They just won't be in the business of selling goods. Each person will instead be a self-sufficient economy that produces everything they want and need. With an AGI robot, you will have an employee that you can tell what to do (ie--go mow the lawn) and it will go do it. With an ASI robot, you can give it more abstract instructions or much more difficult goals (ie--Make this place look nice, or I want a spaceship capable of travelling to any body within the solar system), and it will figure out what needs to be done and do it.
I can see a future where many people who rent or live in apartments buy small plots of land in the desert so their robots can build underground production facilities there. Might be a good time to buy a small amount of cheap land if you don't already have any.
robots do make mistakes, and sometimes ,many , many mistakes in a short time.
Yo Publicus:
Thank the gods that you said 'human' and not 'lawyer'. There's nothing that a lawyer won't do.
- Ned
cheap energy is readlisty abundant and the sick joke is that artificial scarcity is actually a real thing.
we have CENTURIES OF CHEAP COAL FOR 20 BILLION PEOPLE TO LIVE WELL AND HAVE SUFFICIENT ELECTRICITY.
FULL STOP.
and yes, there is 'cleaner' burning coal. not everything has to be totally smoggy, especially with coal factories moveable far away from cities and power lines delivering electricity to electric micro cars , with more densely spaced cities.
there is no energy shortage that isn't induced by the powers that be.
whoever downvoted you is a fucking idiot... coal energy can be used cheaply, cleanly, and efficiently... the US is sitting on ~$17 trillion worth of known reserves by themselves, not to mention coal available in the rest of the world...
if you don't like coal, there's thorium btw...
If energy could be easily collected and stored using the sun, the vacuum, some new technology, or whatever, there wouldn't be scarcity, real OR artificial.
Without cheap energy, man will go neolithic in rapid sequence. Stone tool farming! We did it once, we can do it again.
I am not sure we can do it again, Jack. Our ancestors weren't all autistic as our kin will be...
That fight is over before it begins. There are more efficient ways but they are not cost effective. Robots would not identify with things like wages or shareholders. They would formulate what they needed and get to work. Robotic miners fuel the robotic power-plant, that is guared by robotic soldiers, which were designed by the R&D department, which also makes robotic miners.
To anyone who has not seen The Animatrix, it is worth the watch. It does a good job of explaining how we could one day get to that apocoliptic era in a realistic manner.
WWall-E and Bruce Willis movie Surrogates does the same thing. Man becomes a couch potato controller ..until the whole system goes haywire, the he either takes back his life..or he dies. Look into SINGULARITY if you want to know where the technocrats have in store for most of mankind..which is death for 98 percent and being uploade into the Borg for the extra spe ial like Fuckerberg and Kurzwell.
We are surrounded by potential sources of energy and raw materials.
These items are free.
The only thing required to harness the energy and to create useful things is labor.
By automating the supply chain form end to end, all things become virtually free since very little human labor will be required.
Yup. Harnessed the ACA we did, yup.
Very little human labor involved.
They won't be suckered into believing in Manmade Global Warming or "Green Energy" projects that are just another name for corporate welfare.
You consider Humans an intelligent species?
Considering the short amount of time since we evolved as a species, I'd say yes.
People that say stuff like this don't understand the complexity of life. Robots will never care to be self-sustaining let alone will they achieve conciousness anytime soon.
We've had tools a long time and they've constantly upgraded productivity. This issue is very much what Frank Herbert saw which was one of the few highlights of his stories: a small group of people will control advanced robots and will thus control all production and military force. Complete tyranny. Have a nice day.
Robots and machines serving food is so passe.....robots are already able to cook and act like a chef!
A UK based compay demonstrated just yesterday that a dish (that too a crab bisque, no less) can be cooked exacly as per the hand movements of a chef!
All for USD 75,000 but prices could trend lower if it becomes popular!
Robot chefs designed to work in kitchen unveiled in UK
It remains to be seen whether it lead to job losses or create more jobs. Just like they said at the time of internet and the launch of computers that there will be less jobs which turned out to be completely untrue.
Launch of computers = less jobs
Certainly made a drastic reduction in clerical/support positions. Yes, there is the help desk/IT support, but that is one department vs. positions across an organization.
Not unusual now for an admin to support a department of 40-80 people. Only the big chiefs get a personal secretary anymore.
From a former executive admin (broker-dealer, finance, healthcare) who worked supporting VPs before becoming a stay home mom.
Oh, surely had a fairly big affect on the travel industry too. Used to be you called an agency. When I was working I booked flights and hotels directly online for my various bosses.
Fair enough.
Jobs have been created in a different sector and past sectors have become useless, just like when planes and trains were invented, the horse cart and bullock cart became useless.
It is sad that more productive employees are there at a time when computers do jobs more efficiently and yet we have job losses. Google, Facebook and Alibaba would not be possible without computers. But they need less people at a time when we have more population.
Travel agencies became more productive and we can pay for tickets, compare airlines in a fraction of time but due to the productivity gains, we need less people though it is a great achievement.
However, if we did not have an oil crisis or banking crisis or real estate crisis, it could be justified that IT did create new departments in all companies or created medical research or healthcare apps or online businesses. But since we are undergoing a collapse scenario, it seems unjustifiable because the causes are varied.
Eventually as the kitchen becomes robotic and highly efficient, the customers lack the ability to afford the product having lost their jobs. Crab bisque is made the old fashioned manual way at home. Well okay, maybe Alpo Pate served with Soylent crackers is the more likely menu item.
Miffed;-)
That is absolutely AMAZING. Put that thing on overhead rails and it could do ANYTHING.
What do we do when the unemployment rate hits 80%?
Same here, it was fine til last night now it's a 3 week old page and the contact window is dated July 10. I use his IP address http://82.221.129.208/ and connecting from Canada hasn't been an issue before. Encountering more DNS lookup failures for random sites too.
That's why they made the Wayback Machine:
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://82.221.129.208/*
Jim Stone was replaced by a machine.
gdogus,
Jim's site is still updating but the PTB have hacked his current redirect method to prevent updates. See this thread http://www.reactorbreach.com/showthread.php?tid=4912 for a solution I posted there.
And who will all those multinationals sell to?
To other robots. Doh!
.... using bitcoin...
multinationals run by robots won't need to sell things to other robots. they don't need cars, food, toilet paper or ego-driven consumables. the borg will decide resource allocation. fiat will be an archaic human construct no longer required.
I think advanced AI would come to the determination that aquatic life is essential to maintain a livable environment, haman, and AI. Think how Fukishima is too hot for robots and that portion of the ocean that is starting to cook in the sun due to a lack of plankton's photosynthesis process. But then again, they could just cover the earth in solar panels. : /
Now wait just a moment. I've been promised for fifty years that when robots start doing all the work, I and all the other surplus humans will get to do whatever we want with all the wealth that will flow from our robotic utopia. Are you saying I've been waiting my whole life in vain?
Are you saying I've been waiting my whole life in vain?
Yeah, it looks like that from here. Sorry.
Having more helping hands used to be the winning formula during the century of abundance. Having fewer mouths to feed will be the winning formula through the century of diminishing returns.
We're getting some awesome comments today :)
Thx.
Great, no more work, they can send us some of that money from the ether to consume and enjoy life.
Wait until they replace the customers.
You are being fed intellectual pap to keep you docile and nutrition targeted to make you obese and your organs fail. When the time is ripe, your wobbly body will stagger in a carb-fuelled semi-trance to the vat, there to be made into oil, the better to service your new masters, the automatons. You never even had a chance.
The article said the robots were making cell phone parts. I'm sure they aren't very sophisticated, not like the ones used in auto manufacturing in Germany and in the US in "right to work" states.
Buying sophisticated robots are prohibitively expensive. You don't just buy them at Walmart and put them to work. They have to be engineered from scratch. The time between decision to buy and implementation is YEARS. And it takes very, VERY big money. Only giant corporations can afford sophisticated robot assembly lines at this point.
Which is why 125 thumbs up is very puzzling to me. Robotics is an ENORMOUS BARRIER to implement.
The surplus humans will be exterminated is extraordinarily assinine as big corporations don't want anybody exterminated. Every single person is a consumer and has potential for profit. Which is why Uncle Fraud does not enforce the border with latin america.
Higher grade oil applicators and more frequent lube jobs
About the only benefit I can see is you won't see any hair in your food. And, he can't spit on your hamburger if you piss him off, or attempt to piss him off.
One question. Will the eventuality of driverless cars eliminate jobs in the police state for traffic enforcement?
instead of spit it will be leaking hydraulic oil. And the driverless cars , they will be fining the police instead of the other way around.
On the bright side, the next human to go postal at work will only have to use a wrench and spray bottle of saltwater.
Their union is called Skynet. Arnie is considered a lousy scab.
Robots make the robots who are controled by computers who are then turned on by a single human.
I've hated humans for years now. You all are finally coming over to my side.
Video games she play me
Face it on the level but it take you every time on a one on one
Feel it runnin' down your spine
Nothin' gonna save your one last dime
'cause it own you
Through and through
A quick web seach says "robots make the robots" ...
https://www.phdinc.com/industries/view.aspx?industry=semiconductor_manuf...
http://www.brooks.com/products/semiconductor-automation/wafer-handling-s...
http://www.brandtautomation.com/automation-capabilities/automated-assemb...
http://www.assemblymag.com/topics/2638-automated-assembly
Humans make the initial robots, then they make themselves. Theres a few cases in china where a single robot builds an entire factory full of robots....
Time to rethink the value of 'jobs' in our economy.... Frederico Pistono predicted this, along with many other individuals and groups. Jobs are an outdated concept in a species that has the technological capacity to provide for everyone, without much need for human labor...
The current paradigm is stuck with industrial revolution ideas.... time to move on.
ALL HAIL BENDER!!
You can be sure that congress will never allow robot labor to replace any governmental position- only blue collar jobs that the ruling class would never stoop down to.
the IRS (and most Co. accounting departments) can be easily replaced with an off the shelf calculator..or one 50+yr old person with a yellow notepad and a #2 Ticonderoga...less sass and zero errors on both counts as well....but then again theres the coffee to think about...
For some time I've wondered if Tyler is a self aware robot. 'He' certainly doesn't get much sleep. ;-)
why not have the robot shit the burger directly into your mouth and save on packaging as well?
Complete with hydraulic fluid 'sauce'..
Domo Arigato BITCHEZ
"I am the modern man with this guitar in hand
I will do my best and try to keep Rock and Roll alive!
Keep it alive!" --- Kilroy Was Here
They made them cute on purpose so you would not want to destroy them. Intelligent Design 101.
Yep, they'll probably make killbots all chubby and cute with a big 'ole smiley face.
Even nature does it. Could you squish this guy?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2144717/Happy-Face-spider-gives-...
Miffed;-)
Cute AND they do not sue the employer for sexual harassment, termination, workers comp, etc etc etc. This is BIG
Labor Force Participation Rate.....BITCHEZ !!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU
They took our jobs! When will the bigots want to deport all the robots, becuase they are too lazy to acquire skills, knowledge, and experience to be sought after by employers.