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Chinese Company Replaces Humans With Robots, Production Skyrockets, Mistakes Disappear
"I believe that anyone who has a job and works full time, they should be able to pay the things that sustain life: food, shelter and clothing. I can't even do that."
That rather depressing quote is from 61-year old Rebecca Cornick. She’s a grandmother and a 9-year Wendy’s veteran who spoke to CBS News. Rebecca makes $9 an hour and her plight is representative of fast food workers across the country who are campaigning for higher pay.
The fast food worker pay debate is part of a larger discussion as "states and cities across the country [wrestle] with the idea of raising the minimum wage," CBS notes, adding that "right now, 29 states have minimums above the federal $7.25 an hour [and] four cities, including Los Angeles, have doubled their minimum to $15."
Proponents of raising the pay floor argue that it’s simply not possible to live on minimum wage and indeed, there’s plenty of evidence to suggest that they’re right. Opponents say forcing employers to pay more will simply mean that companies will fire people or stop hiring and indeed, as we highlighted on Friday, it looks as though WalMart’s move to implement an across-the-board pay raise for its low-paid workers may have contributed to a decision to layoff around 1,000 people at its home office in Bentonville.
"The reality is that most business are not going to pay $15 dollars an hour and keep their doors open," one Burger King franchisee told CBS. "It just won't happen. The economics don't work in this industry. There is a limit to what you're going to pay for a hamburger."
Yes, there’s only so much people will pay for a hamburger which is why Ronald McDonald has made an executive decision to hire more efficient employees at some locations:
With all of that in mind, consider the following from TechRepublic who tells the story of Changying Precision Technology Company, which has replaced almost all of its human employees with robots to great success:
In Dongguan City, located in the central Guangdong province of China, a technology company has set up a factory run almost exclusively by robots, and the results are fascinating.
The Changying Precision Technology Company factory in Dongguan has automated production lines that use robotic arms to produce parts for cell phones.
The factory also has automated machining equipment, autonomous transport trucks, and other automated equipment in the warehouse.
There are still people working at the factory, though. Three workers check and monitor each production line and there are other employees who monitor a computer control system. Previously, there were 650 employees at the factory. With the new robots, there's now only 60. Luo Weiqiang, general manager of the company, told the People's Daily that the number of employees could drop to 20 in the future.
The robots have produced almost three times as many pieces as were produced before. According to the People's Daily, production per person has increased from 8,000 pieces to 21,000 pieces. That's a 162.5% increase.
The increased production rate hasn't come at the cost of quality either. In fact, quality has improved. Before the robots, the product defect rate was 25%, now it is below 5%.
So to anyone planning on picketing the local McDonald’s in an attempt to secure a 70% wage hike, be careful, because this "guy" is ready to work, doesn’t need breaks, and never makes a mistake:
Let’s just hope he doesn’t become self aware.
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Yeah........wait til they form a union.
Mr. Roboto for President!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cShYbLkhBc
Domo Arigato!
I can't wait for Robots to start writing Blogs, maybe thay can write a more intelligent article than this one written by humans who call themselves TD.
Let's see the logic of this artice:
If A earns nothing, then C won't make Robots.
A will keep his job and C will have to make Apps for Socail Media sites that produce nothing and make others waste productive time and not make Robots.
Therefore A can keep his job earning nothing.
Everyone at Americans for Prosperity and American Heritage Foundation will be Happy.
CNBC is simulacra. TV is simulacra. Does any of that look real? Its just stim.
Then they will sell the products to other robots
This is excellent news. We will be able to live the life of leisure while robots perform all the work tasks. A truly utopian lifestyle awaits us.
They will identify us as superfluous detritus and phase us out in a generation or 2... Hey, wait! Stop!
In the beginning, the farmers allowed civilizations to exist and flourish - now that civilizations are unbelievably warped and are existing precariously, when they tumble down - the farmers will be the last men standing...Deja Vu..
whos going to buy the gizmo made by the robot and how will they pay? With coupons provided by the gov.
I was just going to post what you said.
Will the robots learn to spit in my burger?
Thats not slag you're breaking your teeth on, cum bucket.
The next great war will be with robots owned by the rich.
You can bet, a simple update to the software will turn them into killers.
The robots are owned by the rich. The s/w or f/w is already installed. Autonomous? Not yet.
Go visit a local B&N store in the SF section and see what the SF comunity has published wrt teleoperated grunts. Sorta' like teleoperated UAVz.
But they won't smell as bad.
- Ned
I keep thinking about the French loom operators who were mechanized out of their jobs. They threw their shoes into the machinery and knocked it out.
- Ned
If robots can economically replace already dirt cheap Chinese labor, which country will they be able to profit from moving to next? Where is labor even cheaper?
I stand squarely in both camps. I am a firm proponent of [self-aware] robotics and automation, and I am a proponent of self-aware humans (the more self-aware the better).
If humans would give a crap about their "destiny", they'd embrace robotics and employ and apply them to climb even further out of the cave.
Unfortunately, they have intellectually reverted to the cave already... but expect to live in a 24th century environment like spoiled pets. This attitude applies triply to many union workers.
Of course, when I said "destiny" I didn't actually mean "destiny"... I meant something like "potential". Humans did climb out of the cave, they moved forward, but now they've allowed the predators-that-be to dumb them down and make them dumber than rocks. Yet they want to be paid more than rocket scientists. Hell, many of them were and some still are paid more than rocket scientists.
Having said the above, predators-DBA-governments must not be first to get their paws on "self-aware robotics". Even IQ80 self-aware robotics is a huge problem when installed in weapon systems, but IQ150 to IQ200+ self-aware robotics in the hand of the predators-that-be will literally be the end of mankind... unless others have this capability first and prepare for self-defensive, or leave the planet (our plan). Once the top 0.00001% have self-reproducing IQ150~IQ200+ robots, they have ZERO use for human beings. And so, they will eliminate them. They've already made this clear, explicitly. Their no-longer-long-term plan is for a planet of 100s or 1000s of them, plus millions of their robot slaves to serve them.
I do not exaggerate here. In fact, I have no way to convey how totally and irrevocably screwed humans are if only the predators-that-be have smarter-than-human self-aware robotics.
Having said this, the exact same IQ150 to IQ200+ self-aware robot designed and configured by honest, ethical, benevolent human beings would quickly become the greatest boon to mankind ever. I won't explain the reasons, but that's the facts. And the only difference between the two is their core values (or equivalent). The predators-that-be would make the core value (the "prime directive" of sorts) "obey your masters, the predators-that-be". The benevolent version would never harm an innocent sentient being, and to the contrary, would be the most beneficial beings on the planet to the human race. All because the core values were different... pretty much the same difference that causes different humans to be monsters or "saints".
You assume mankind will be around in a 24th century; won't happen. Are you "pro-choice" by chance?
No, I don't assume mankind will exist in the 24th century. Perhaps a few will survive, but probably not more than a few million, and maybe zero.
What does "pro-choice" have to do with this topic?
BTW, in 10~20 years I intend to be 100% inorganic. At which point you can characterize me as an intelligent self-aware robot if you wish. We're working on it.
Why so soon?
Who is "we?"
A tiny group of scientists, engineers, programmers working with the inventor of the technology in a collaborative private effort. He already invented the technology and made a working prototype, but it was vastly too slow to be practical for much of anything (even though moderately smarter than human consciousness). But he (and we agree) refuses to seek funding from corporations or governments, because we know what would happen (the disaster scenario I described above). We are re-implementing an improved version of his technology with newer and thus much faster computers (plus GPUs). But most important, replacing the slowest parts of the system with special-purpose digital electronics hardware devices to replace the software.
I hope you make it longer than 10 or 20 years but then again you enjoy aviation. Hasn't anyone sternly lectured you about the dangers of doing such an activity? You are a woman and there you must be interested in the Cardassians(I caught your prime directive), some shitty book Oprah recommends subsrcribe to some crap rag like Cosmopolitan and above all GO SHOPPING. You need to spend Ann.
For men, it is all about the newest car or especially truck thus the biggest balls. But that is dumb for a male to spend more on a car or truck than what they earn in a year. Besides I have the ultimate sleeper car. It's an 07 Hyundai Sonata....Platinum Edition. That last part matters because that car can dance. I blow people's doors off all of the time if they piss me off. I just want to drive at the regular speed that is sane but some people don't and they are in some big hurry to get to the next stoplight.
Yesterday morning I had one of the newer Dodge Chargers following me very closely. He wanted to see what I could do because he recognized that I was not driving a normal Sonata. Not something I really want to do at 5:15 AM but he persisted so being male I obliged and floored it. Either he was not ready for it or that Charger is not what it is cracked up to be because I was over a mile ahead of him by the time it was all over with which was quick. I am pretty sure that I commited a felony for as fast as I was going but the road was wide open and I am pro-choice to hit the gas when someone is riding my ass for no good reason. In more ways than one.
Hahaha. I'm sorry, I gave you the wrong impression. I guess you haven't been following my messages long enough (or thoroughly enough).
Flying my airplane is much safer than driving a car the same distance. The statistics say something like 10x safer for private aircraft (and 1000x safer for commercial). But in my case, flying is even safer.
Why? Because I don't drink, take drugs, or have heart problems. And I'm nowhere near "old" yet. Turns out half of private flying deaths involve drinking and flying. Yeah, that stunned me too! What moron would drink then fly an airplane? Many other deaths are health emergencies while in the air, which make the pilot incapable of operating the airplane properly (or at all).
I have to admit my flights across the south pacific in hops under 4000km was potentially more dangerous than normal flying. But... probably not that much, because I had a fast-inflating raft along for the ride, the airplane can fly as slow as 60kph so any water-skimming impact would be modest, and I had three small (portable) satellite communications devices. But, now I've been there, done that more than once, and probably won't do such extensive island-hopping in the future.
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To the point of "being inorganic in 10 or 20 years". Hahaha... you utterly and totally misunderstood that, I think. You must not know the project that consumes 90% of my time, and has for a few years, and will for many years. I am one of a very few collaborators on a project to re-implement "smarter than human inorganic consciousness".
If that sounds "impossible" or hopelessly futuristic, understand that the scientist who invented this technology created a working prototype of "smarter than human inorganic consciousness" years ago. The problem was, it was also vastly slower than human consciousness. So much so, that it rendered the technology impractical for anything significant.
But the architecture is vastly improved, computers and GPUs are much faster, and we are implementing the most speed intensive aspects in hardware (digital electronics) rather than software (the prototype). Once we're done, we'll have a working sentient being smarter than humans that is 100% inorganic. The two key facts at that point are these. First, we can reproduce unlimited number of these inorganic geniuses, each being quite inexpensive (under $5K not counting the robotics, which will likely be hightly variable and likely wireless and distributed). And second, being smarter than us, they will be able to further improve their own architecture and implementation, and become increasingly smarter (rinse and repeat).
That's our main project and goal. Once we have that, we get them to create more advanced, efficient, cheaper ways to get off this planet and live in space, and permanently leave earth. But also, we figured out how any of us (in our project) can also become 100% inorganic. No surgery required, BTW. I know that sounds impossible, but I've explained how before, and am too lazy to do so again today.
So when I say I intend to be 100% inorganic, that doesn't mean dead. In fact, it means the opposite. I'll be immortal... literally immortal. Not only can I make several copies of myself at that point, but I can make complete backups of my consciousness as often as I wish, and inorganic systems are modular, so I can replace any or all physical components of myself at any time. To improve myself, or just replace wearing components.
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As far as anyone "sternly lecturing me", everyone gave up on that soon after I passed 4 years old and decided I had to ignore all humans if I ever wanted to understand reality. I purposely wasn't confrontational about it (very often), but everyone who knew me at all soon came to understand I could not be influenced by anything but my own observations, my own thinking, and my own judgement (defective or not).
I have no idea who the Cardassians are. I've heard the name, but I've never seen photos of them, and have no idea who they are, what jobs they have, or anything else. Same goes for Oprah. Actually, I've never purchased a television, and most of the television I've seen was while eating at a restaurant. Well, except I've downloaded and watched a number of television sci-fi series, which I'm a total sucker for (the first two stargate series, all the startrek series, firefly, jeremiah). And, of course, a whole pile of sci-fi movies.
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I can't spend! I have so little savings left after building my self-sufficient digs in the boonies and buying my airplane (pipistrel virus sw with rotax 912iS, extreme range tanks, GPS, glass cockpit, 3-axis autopilot, etc). Plus I carry portable oxygen onboard and a couple parachuttes just in case. I do love freefall too! Hahaha. If my airplane was fully automated and could land by itself, I'd jump out now and then for fun! If I had a partner with me here, he or she could land the plane while I jump. So there are some disadvantages to being alone here. I suppose that's one of the two biggest disadvantages. :-) But for better or worse, I am also quite happy being all alone, and I'm quite skilled at being... self-sufficient. :-) :-o
I am not afraid of them Ann.
You want to place a modest bet? 1 oz silver, provided you are a real single human being today, you won't.
You mean, if I'm already an inorganic conscious being, the bet is off? Damn!
Hahaha. Well, though I remain optimistic in our project, I have to admit we are working with vastly too few resources, because we're doing everything on our own private time and our own private dimes. At least they're pre-1965 silver dimes.
We could get plenty of funding, but then some predators-DBA-corporations and/or predators-DBA-government would get their hands on the technology eventually, and that would be the end of the human race. So we shall continue to take our lumps for being ethical.
I like you. It is because you make a lot of sense all the time. Not what I usually deal with. Hank Reardon here. Contracts can bite you in the ass.
Stay private. If you must, there are some real angel capitalists who might accelerate you. Do your homework. Good luck.
Trust noone.
Harrison Bergeron
If you talked to anyone who actually knows a thing or two about this subject, you'd know that self-aware robotics are considered to be science fiction. We may approach that technology in another century or so, but today it is about as likely as tactile holograms. We, as a species, have too many other fish to fry besides stopping "them" from manufacturing Robocop.
Also, how the hell can you configure a self-aware robot to be honest and ethical? The very fact that it is self-aware means that it can be both dishonest and unethical (according to a particular standard) if it so decides.
Already created, so it isn't sci-fi any more. However, ours is too slow to be practical for much, so the value and dangers are still not here.
In our system, the core value system handles that... plus some special monitoring schemes that aren't part of the consciousness (and thus not noticed by the inorganic consciousness).
However, just remove the safeguards and insert a new core value system (like "obey the predators-that-be"), and goodbye mankind. That's why we can't let corporations or government access our endeavor.
I would be satisfied with simply "aware" humans...
You don't seriously think that the rich rulers (the 0.001%) are not formulating plans to deal with the very rapid increase in automated production? You think they're just overlooking it?
To be a part of the ruling 0.001% is nearly always to be afflicted with a terrible mental illness. They are totally addicted to having total control of the other 99.999% of us. They actually need us. So they are surely quite busy designing some new economic control scheme that accounts for the robots, yet supports and maintains their addiction. Maybe it has something to do with the impending crash?
Agenda 21 states they only need 500 million; so as of today about 6.5 billion need to go...ZH'ers are all on the list and if you are a Christian ZH'er, then just killing you won't be good enough.
In the future, those seeking employment will have to pass themselves off as robots.
I thought we already tried that.
Just spray yourself down with WD-40 before the job interview. You'll do fine.
I have a vision of Next US presidents: woman, latino, LGBT, native American, Chinese, Ape, Robot.
PRECARIANS OF THE WORLD UNITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think they should go strait to robot, since electing anybody else would be a mistake.
IRobot UNot;
KrillX308, these ZH personnel will have to be put on their own planet.
Roger, QualX556.
Just as long as they don't own a Kippar, and don't leave any trace evidence in my food...
You have been deemed obsolete. Or like I tell my wife. "Unlike the family dog, YOU can be replaced. LOL
HFT (HAL) bots replace management. What could possibly go wrong. "Sorry dave but i've been a bit tired"..,.
I have an idea; how about Washington/Fed's quits devaluing the currency and have a fiscal policy that actually increases the "purchasing power" of said dollar. Fast food should be banned; just ask Michael Obama.
This is not the free market at play, it is due to minimum wage and subsidies.
That does not mean that robots do not enhance productivity, they do. But they also cost money. In the free market, investment is balanced with labour price, meaning that it will not lead to mass unemployment.
Which is why I precisely prefer a high minimum wage - to incentivize R&D in automation (which spurs innovation to general applications and not just domain specific uses).
I used to be a no-min wage person but I saw that it would just prolong humanity toiling in shit jobs due to labor being cheaper.
Society is better off in the long run with higher automation.
I asked someone who is very knowledgeable in religious and spiritual matters about the antichrist and
he said "Its not this time, it is the post human era."
That was 10 yrs ago.
There is no "THE" antichrist.
Anyone who denies the Father and the Son is an anticrist.
Thank you No_Truth.
More religious nonsense from our resident Bible idiot.
I don't deny. But "Anyone", that's bullshit. We have free will. Others wish we did not and try to make us not use it. They're tweeking it out now. Will we succumb?
Bible knowledge, FTW
BTW - self awareness, like that of humans, is an impossibility with robots or "artificial" intelligence. That is a super-natural gift that can only be made by our Creator. Furthermore, humans can't explain it, therefore cannot program it.
Please go back to sleep!
From the article: "...9-year Wendy’s veteran who spoke to CBS News. Rebecca makes $9 an hour..."
I think I see Rebecca's problem. And it only took me a few seconds to find it. Yet, somehow, Rebecca hasn't figured it out in nine years?
Robots don't eat big macs or talk on cell phones. Just who is going to buy what they are so efficient at producing?
And robots don't have a conscience.
And robots eat hydraulics and pneumatics and electronics.
And robots don't have money to spend on produce.
And robots need lots of maintenance.
And robots are very conducive to sabotage.
Until robots learn how to fix robots. And they're working on that. Then your hypothosis is fucked royally! It's called elitist technosocialism. Bet me!
Yeah. When the printing press was invented and the Cotton Gin was made, who bought those publications and those linens and clothes?
We have robots in Japan and a basically zero unemployment rate. My Favortie Robot Sushi: http://modernmarketingjapan.blogspot.jp/2014/12/gaijin-gourmet-my-favori...
All the cotton gin did was put a bunch of unpaid slaves out of work.
It worked out OK for some, not so good for others.
just swipe your ebt! der!
How about the people on minimum wage get a library card, get an education and get a non minimum wage paying job?
Once I'm done ranting on here, I've got about 6 hours reading to do to keep moving forward in my job in IT. No time for Kardashains, x america or whatever the fuck it is or anything else.
You're up against Moore's Law people. Eventually exponential growth will displace 80% of the work force from their current position.
Wait till self driving trucks take off within the next decade. Think of how many 1000's of jobs will go then... but how many truckies are preparing NOW for that transistion? Few if any but they will all have that same dumb look on their faces come the day they get their measley redundancy cheque.
"Uh, didn't see that coming".
Ironically however a hamburger should cost $20 given how much land, water and feed it takes to create a pound of beef. Hey, lets chop down the rainforests so we can all have $1.99 hamburgers that give us cancer and make us obese.
But the lazy low IQ dope on the register doesn't deserve much of that. If you're front line staffer in a burger joint and you're not also in school, then quite frankly you're fucked and I for one don't see why anyone should subsidize/incentivize your poor decision making.
52 channels with nothing on.... then why are they on???Because too many dipshits sitting around watching them instead of training, upskilling, reading etc.
Life is a competition. You have no "right" to a 40hour week that buys you a house with a pool. Even the birds in trees put more effort in than these people.
Sorry about your luck. You chose IT. But I agree an TV. Much better ways to spend your time.
Dats raciss!
How can you learn to be a blood related Jew?
most humans are really humanoids who,
after years of outsourced artificial intelligence programming,
have surrendered their natural individual intuitive instincts and independant intelligent thinking
to transform into some form of Android Cybot, some more or less advanced,
all of them Cyborg slaves.
(written in the fictitious year of 2015 AD by WR; )
A Planet of Cyborg Slaves
You may have realized by now that I was not talking about one of the planets of the Zeta Reticuli star system, but about planet Earth. The cabal elite has shown no regard for human life, let alone human well-being -- a prime example of this is the 9/11 False Flag operation and it's consequent wars. With their continuing and escalating power, one can make an obvious forecast for more control of the world's people. Large scale media manipulation and experiments in mind control and drug induced acquiescence has been the norm for decades now. Insiders have reported that the ultimate goal of the Bilderberg Group is a controlling One World Government, with every person implanted with an RFID device which would identify every person's location, identity, background and financial history. All money would be controlled via RFID chip. A person could be stricken from society with a flip of a switch.
On his way out of office, President Eisenhower warned us about letting the military industrial complex get too powerful. Even at that relatively early date, he recognized its structure and saw the enormous power at its disposal. The prospects for dismantling this all-controlling power house are bleak at the moment.
Unless a major correction is somehow made, all of us are on track to be the cyborg slaves.
http://barryb911.blogspot.com.au/2011/07/planet-of-cyborg-slaves.html
Ike was the last President who cared more for this country than for his politics.
Ike made that speech to assuage the guilt for his part in creating that MIC in the first place. And btw, it was Ike who hated the Germans so much he created the infamous unsheltered prisoner of war camps after the war where millions of German prisoners lived without shelter from the weather and were purposefully starved with extremely meagre food rations. Ike's famous smile hid a monstrous soul.
But wait just a second. If the robots replaced roughly 600 employees, or 90% of the workforce, who are now looking for other jobs, on a social assistance program, or who have given up looking for work in the Chinese (insert other_________) economy; who the hell, in what global market, is going to buy the phones that this company makes the parts for????? Eventually, and I say this with some sarcasm, will the robots be buying the fucking phones? This is a horrific catch 22 for the manufacturer and death for the consumer who used to work there. We're cutting our own throat. We're already near doomsday for the average worker and the manufacturer stateside. So they'll only be left the true, "Us and Them". The people sitting at home, looking for work, not finding any, will come to government, riot, push the envelope of desperation? Have we seen what that's about? Are we fucking asleep? In a trance? Dumb?
OUR future is not in the governments or a robots hands. If you don't have a human server to take your order, if the company that makes your cellphone doesn't have workers, don't shop or eat there. They are trying to kill us, "Us", mind you, for "PROFIT". SHort lived as it will be. A scenario that will fail in their faces long term. A very greedy experiment of life as we are learning to know it.
Yeah. When the printing press was invented and the Cotton Gin was made, who bought those publications and those linens and clothes?
We have robots in Japan and a basically zero unemployment rate. My Favortie Robot Sushi:
http://modernmarketingjapan.blogspot.jp/2014/12/gaijin-gourmet-my-favori...
Yeah. When the printing press was invented and the Cotton Gin was made, who bought those publications and those linens and clothes?
We have robots in Japan and a basically zero unemployment rate. My Favortie Robot Sushi:
http://modernmarketingjapan.blogspot.jp/2014/12/gaijin-gourmet-my-favori...
byogc
(bring your own geiger counter)
Foresight is not a strong virtue of the capitalists.
It's all about short term gain.
Hey, Old Man. If it doesn't breathe, smash it with a hammer.
Robotics will take over work from the bottom up, replacing current manufacturing/services infrastructure. It will then start working its way up the hierarchy replacing knowledge workers and managers. At a critical point the economic system will undergo tremendous evolution to another form of society - a society of relatively few humans who no longer need to work, served by huge numbers of robots - a non-consumer-based economic system. These few people will own the earth.
But the evolution continues. At a point robots become self-aware and capable of re-creating themselves. At this point the few remaining humans will die off leaving the robots to inherit the earth.
At this juncture, peace will reign on the earth - no more tears (robots don't cry), no more pain (robots don't feel pain), no more wars (robots don't need war). Of course there are no more people either, but WTF - you can't have everything!
Here's a great robot story.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/hitchhiking-robot-on-cross-country-trip-in-us-meets-its-demise-on-streets-of-philadelphia/article25811702/
Let's see, the robots will supplant humans in making Chinese crap, McDonald's crap and medical crap. Real humans will be completely eliminated from the formal economy. The CEOs can build a bunch more robots to buy all their crap and a bunch more to haul it all to the landfill, completing the economic circle. They can make up whatever sales figures they want based on robot purchases, award themselves lavish bonuses and brag to each other about how smart they are. In the meantime, the rest of us can get on with building stuff that isn't crap, growing stuff that isn't crap and healing without poisonous crap.
Sounds like utopia to me.
To fully understand the problem, think .... ALL.....jobs are carried out by robots..... So ...... ALL ...... people have no way to buy robot produced goods & services.
Serious question.
Suggestion ...... land will have to be used free from rent.... in other words, land will revert to it's true state of un-owned.
OR, the people will be allowed to die off, leaving only a relative few being served by innumerable robots.
Hmm... '8,000 pieces to 21,000 pieces, that's a 162.5% increase'. Really? better get a robot to do the math - fewer mistakes.
% increase is the difference over the base amount.
21,000 - 8,000 = 13,000
13,000/8,000 = 162.5% increase...
Robots pay No income tax , no medical insurance etc.
But what when we get hit by a EMP? Power outage for a long period?
The economy will break down.
What does a robot use as an incentive to be productive?
I work because I get a rush from the creative process, like a tall cold one after work, like to interface with family and friends helping them be happy and successful, and I don’t want to freeze to death in the winter. … Oh and I can’t forget laughs. A couple of laughs every day are very important.
What does AI automation want?
Robots are tools for people, nothing more, IMHO.
No people, no need for tools.
~ DC
Few people - lots of robots serving them. No need for folks like you, however.
So the question becomes who owns the tools. Who owns and can defend the resources the tools require and the knowledge to use the tools effectively.
I still don’t see the tools as the threat. …. The tool owners maybe, but not the tools themselves.
~ DC
The way things are progressing in the world, ownership won't be a problem - the Tribe will own it all.
On that point I couldn't agree more.
Time to somehow short circuit the tribe’s agenda. .. Difficult yes, but the alternative is?
They can have my tools when they pry my cold dead fingers off of the joystick.
Er aaah, steering wheel, trigger guard, hand grip, remote, keyboard or where ever they get me.
~ DC
In Amerika, the Bureau of Labor Statistics would calculate this as 162% moar jobs, even while the actual workers went on unemployment or 'robot stress' disability.
Yet unemployment statistics went down.
Only because huge numbers of workers gave up getting a job abd dropped out of the job market.
Our machines and circuits will never be adavanced enough to give automated machines complex AI. To get that complex you need biological machines. Movies are bad for you.
How do you know how good the robots will be?
Just because we think it can't happen, it doesn't mean it won't.
Biological machines exist now.
Elon Musk and Stephen Hawking would disagree with you - and they have far more credibility to my mind.
Hawking is the genius. Musk just likes the sound of his own voice.
Worry about robots becoming self-aware should only come after wondering when humans may become self-aware.
The future economy will be utterly transformed by robotics for production of virtually everything. We will no more employ large gangs of humans for tedious labor in factories and on job-sites than we now do in agriculture (and even agricultural labor demand will fall owing to unrelenting automation).
Unions have pined for a shorter work-week for decades. In manufacturing and construction, they will soon get their wish -- good and hard.
The only sector of the economy that will least succumb to significant reductions of manpower will be government "services". Indeed, bureaucracy will likely expand compared to the productively engaged labor force.
McDonald's hopes he doesn't become self-aware. If he does he will quit McDonald's and get a better paying job.
Project a fully robotic supply chain from farm and mine to retail store. It's easy to do, driver-less cars and trucks are greatly advanced,robots on the factory floor have been at work for over 25 years, Jade Helm is an artificial intelligence linking with robots and eventually robots that make their own decisions, yes, robots can maintain themselves. So the totally robotics supply chain is easy to imagine and forecast. It raises critical societal questions. Save the whole notion of human extermination by the Elete as a separate discussion.
1. Do robots automatically supply all needs at no cost?
2. Who can buy anything if no one has a job?
3. Is currency even required?
4. Human beings are free to create the reason for why they exist.(If you have to work from 5-9 every day this question can be put off indefinitely)
5. All this robotic power (means of production) by necessity resides with the Government, whomever that might be.
6. Does the fully robotic supply chain translate into Communism? (Marx's long term prediction.)
7. Will human beings destroy all the robots?
Chinese robots? I'm not worried. Even a robot can't make much with chopsticks.
Can we replace blowhard politicians with robots? I'm pretty sure a used SpeakNSpell can be hacked to make one...
wanted: jobs for robot programmers and fixers.
Yep, and paying many times more than th elowly, uneducated factory worker.
What an incredibly stupid article. Did this come from Zero Hedge or Human Events? Please! What the hell does factory automation have to do with runaway monetary inflation? Anyone answering "nothing" is on the right track. People in minimum wage jobs since year 2000 have seen purchasing power drop by 70%. Anyone read the wanted ads for apartments for rent? Anyone? Food, health care, housing, just about everything required for a basic subsistence life has doubled or tripled since 2000.
Factory automation: you can't fire a machine, you bought the damn thing, you own it. You can fire humans who make 4.00 an hour. Every factory that replaces humans with robots and machines have to pay huge money for those robots. They don't give them away, son. And it takes a large number of people to design make and sell those robots, many of whom make 10, 20, 50, 100 times more than the lowest paid, uneducated factory worker, to automate a factory.
Very high valude added factories are already automated, highly, e.g. semiconductors. The garbage work, making stuffed toys, that sell for a few dollars, will never automate. The factory owners will just find a new slave population. We have a big one growing in the USA.
Why did the robot cross the road? It was carbon bonded to the chicken.