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Are We Being Forced Into A "Second American Civil War"… If So, Who Will Win?
Submitted by Mac Slavo of SHTFplan.com
Are We Being Forced Into a “Second American Civil War”… If So, Who Will Win?

A culture war has been stirred up.
Divisions are along predictable lines: racism, police abuse, controversial social issues, and plenty of left vs. right, demographics and regional baggage to clash over as well.
And by all accounts, differences and distinctions between people have been intensifying, not blurring and fading away.According to the Washington Post, many Americans have been relocating themselves in one of the 11 distinct areas of the country to live with like minded people.
The best way to keep us from fighting the real enemy is to keep us fighting amongst ourselves.
But could the culture war ever turn into a real war?
Some people actually think so, and it seems the military has been planning for the scenario, too. The potential for economic and societal breakdown is real.
As Infowars previously reported:
The U.S. military agrees that the chance of a break down in the system is real:
A new report from the U.S. Army War College [here is the report] discusses the use of American troops to quell civil unrest brought about by a worsening economic crisis.
The report from the War College’s Strategic Studies Institute warns that the U.S. military must prepare for a “violent, strategic dislocation inside the United States” that could be provoked by “unforeseen economic collapse” or “loss of functioning political and legal order.” [The report also warns of a possible “rapid dissolution of public order in all or significant parts of the US.”]
Former Governor Rick Perry made a lot of noise about succession in Texas. A Russian scholar even predicted the break up of the United States into six parts (with the bankers secretly in control of the pieces, and the grander North American Union:
He also cited the “vulnerable political setup”, “lack of unified national laws”, and “divisions among the elite, which have become clear in these crisis conditions.”
He predicted that the U.S. will break up into six parts – the Pacific coast, with its growing Chinese population; the South, with its Hispanics; Texas, where independence movements are on the rise; the Atlantic coast, with its distinct and separate mentality; five of the poorer central states with their large Native American populations; and the northern states, where the influence from Canada is strong.
Here’s part of the long answer that one former Marine, Jon Davis, gave to the question, “If every state of the USA declared war against each other, which would win?.”
These are the accounts of the Second American Civil War, also known as the Wars of Reunification and the American Warring States Period.
After the breakup many wondered which states would come out in control of the power void created by the dissolution of the United States. There were many with little chance against several of the larger more powerful states. The states in possession of a large population, predisposition for military bases and a population open to the idea of warfare fared the best. In the long term we would look to states with self-sufficiency and long term military capabilities.
Here are the states that held the greatest strategic value from day one. They have the ability to be self-sufficient, economic strength, military strength, the will to fight and the population to support a powerful war machine.
California
Texas
New York
Others that have many of the qualities that gave them an advantage are also listed.
Washington
Colorado
Illinois
Virginia
Florida
Georgia
His full answer includes sample journals from the nearly 3,000 day war he envisions (which is now being optioned by Hollywood). To make a long story short, California, Texas and New York become the power bases for the 2nd American Civil War, and each carves out an empire from the mainland of allied or subjugated states, which add to the balance of resources.
Here is Davis’ final map and full account:
The attempts to reunify the former nation are shaky at best.
Things may not be as simply as carefully divided states, but there are already many layers of conflict throughout society, and some of it has already turned to violence, riots and bloodshed.
Unfortunately, it can happen here. But will it?
How much farther will things go? And will any notice the hidden hand behind those events?
Who are the real controllers, and who stands to gain from a new civil war?
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California and NY. LMFAO
Colorado? Ever see a stoner load a 30 round magazine?
you had me at violent strategic dislocation ...
That map looks suspiciously like it's taken directly from Ghost in the Shell.
We're in a civil war now. It's a war between the producers and the takers. The takers are winning.
The robots will achieve completely victory.
There will be no uprisings in the US until the day after the EBT cards stop working. Whether that be something crazy like an EMP blast taking down large parts of our electronic infrastructure or something much more nundane, the "social safety net" has caught so many people it's sagging under their weight. But nobody will care or raise a finger to change anything until the day after it finally breaks. Certainly those who are using the safety net as a hammock aren't going to make waves. And I'm not just talking about welfare queens. Corporate welfare queens are on this list, too.
That'd be a lot of people hitting the ground hard and the only way I can see a "rapid" change of status quo in the US.
The reaction of ahem... "urban" types will be extremely violent and widespread, but likely short-lived.
“unforeseen economic collapse”
Yep, no one saw that one coming...
“unforeseen economic collapse”
agree, it's here, now. And was predicted by many.
“loss of functioning political and legal order.”
Rutherford institute has already pointed out that the courts are "courts of order" and not "courts of justice." This itself fortells their ending, in a probably violent manner. And everyone knows the political system stopped functioning as a representative system for "the people" a long long time ago.
“rapid dissolution of public order in all or significant parts of the US.”
If we're going to break up our home, can I start with the windows?
Idaho, Montana and Alaska only hopes.
Hawaii as well...as long as O'Bummer is forcibly removed from Mr Masters mansion.
There never was a first American Civil War.
but I could definitely see the Federal Government perpetrating a Second Federal War of Aggression against half the states again in the not too distant future.
The Federal government is already waging a war of aggression against the states in contravention of the Bill of Rights 10th admendment.
Obamacare and queer marriage are just two of the most recent micro-aggessions.
This is the dumbest thing I ever read. California wouldn't last two days in a civil war, let alone be a sphere of influence. California is filled with warring street gangs, their state is almost bankrupt, and with their severe drought all rebels would have to do is sabotage one of the pumping stations along the Colorado River Aqueduct and the Los Angeles and San Diego areas are toast.
Arizona would never join California, it would most likely join Texas, along with Nevada, Utah, and the rest of the Mountain West.
If the Civil War of the 1860s flared up again, the South would win in a heartbeat. This is why the media bashes the Rebel flag over and over again, because they fear what it represents.
The dynamics of North Vs. South are 180 degrees opposite today as they were in the 1860s. The south has all of the industry and work ethic, and the north is the RUST BELT.
Obama and his fellow travelers who worship Lincoln, always are quick to point out the injustices of the 19th Century South because a mere tiny fraction of the wealthiest of wealthiest land owners used blacks as slaves to till the fields. They completely hide the fact that the North utilized women and child labor to work long hours in the factories. (hence why classical progressives have a ban on child labor passed). Today's left worship immigrants, yet the North would conscript new coming immigrants right off the boats at Ellis Island to fight in this dumb war.
By demonizing the rebel flag, and wanting to destroy Confederate symbols, the ninnies want to destroy history and heritage, and dismiss it all as rayciss. This completely ignores the fact despite the North's victory, more blacks are aborted than born, and blacks fill up the prisons and ghettos. So much for progress.
Agreed. Northern California counties are already talking about splitting off and forming a new state. They are the source of most of California's water, minterals and timber. Those on the coast and in the inland valley will be left high and dry. There will be lots of splintering. Those with the most resources - mostly human - will probably survive. That leaves out most cities.
If anything should break up, it should be California. I don't even know why that political subdivision even exists in its current form.
The desert east should be its own state, San Diego area state, Los Angeles area state, the Bay Area as a state, the far north should join southern Oregon as its own state, this would be more appropriate.
A Silicon Valley entrepreneur tried this for real on a ballot, and the media labeled him "an extremist". As usual, they are idiots as it's "extreme" to cling on to obsolete 19th Century boundaries with no significance to the current landscape.
all rebels would have to do is sabotage one of the pumping stations along the Colorado River Aqueduct and the Los Angeles and San Diego areas are toast.
The entire country is replete with soft targets which cannot be fully protected. The entire system relies on voluntary compliance and accession. There is absolutely no resiliency remaining in the system. And the current basis for it, the financial system, is entirely phony anyway.
Too easy.
Your country is something of a mess of historic proportions.
Correct on all counts. But it goes further than that. Texas has something like 90% of the US's land based nuclear deterrent. In a civil war, those facilities would be seized quickly, at which point the war would end. No-one would risk a nuclear Civil War. Better to just let those states that want to go their own way.
I agree. In 2013 a map was published of the ideological makeup of the US and it is similar to what you described. The coastal cities along California Oregon and Washington are of course leftist strongholds, but it is a different story as you go inland. The desert-east part of California is more aligned with Arizona/Texas.The inland portion of Washington state is more aligned with Idaho.
The only reason Virginia is included in Yankeeland above is that it has been the object of aggressive federal takeover for more than a hundred years. This could easily be solved by giving NOVA to Yankeeland. This is the heart of federal influence in Virginia, and is not wanted or needed.
NOVA is producer of nothing except gubmint jobs. One of the wealthiest and parasitic areas of the nation
Fascinating premise and discourse all the way down the thread.
He who controls the borders + He who has the bigger guns usually wins GUNny wars.
For all of the gun as my keepee of sweet liberty persuation, I sure hope you have 1 genius HACKER for every 10,000 of you gun-men working closely with you, on yor side...
Then AND ONLY then do you even have a fighting chance.
People who can hack drones and remote trigger vehicles and th elike.
Or those who can mess up a CCC network....
Or those who can play the power grid...
Conventionally, YOU ARE TOAST....the nerds and geeks are your BEST FRIENDS...
Here's to FREEDUMB, appropriately enough...
https://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2015/07/31/freedumbs-just-another-word/
Ori,
Have you ever told me the Sanskrit name for douche?
Hey wait a minute...
You forgot Wyoming...
Going at break neck speed, I would start there first, then move on to the windows.
Severe cultural differences already are dividing Americans and the fault line runs right through the U.S. Supreme Court. Decisions such as same-sex marriage and Obamacare were predetermined by the radical makeup of the Court.
Example: Said Justice Sonia Sotomayor in her speech, “A Latina Judge’s Voice”: “I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”
The speech by Sotomayor, who has been a La Raza official, was published, in the Spring 2002 issue of the La Raza Law Journal.
Is Sotomayor’s goal on the Court to pursue justice for all? Not likely; for her stated purpose in her speech is to promote the Hispanic and “people of color” culture. In her own words:
“We, I mean all of us in this room, must continue individually and in voices united in organizations that have supported this conference, to think about these questions and to figure out how we go about creating the opportunity for there to be more women and people of color on the bench so we can finally have statistically significant numbers to measure the differences we will and are making.”
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t604205/
+1M JR.
The Supreme Court lost its credibility as an independent branch of impartial jurisprudence when Reagan was politically-corrected into appointing Sandra Day O'Connor to the bench.
Then again, is the current Supreme Court not an accurate reflection of the social attitudes and practices of the day...?
Thanks, Consuelo. I believe, however, that the Supreme Court is taking its actions against the will of the people. Only tricks and treachery put Obamacare through against the feelings of the people, and the same-sex ruling came after many states had recently passed referendums against it. Was Citizens United the will of the people; were sweeping actions such as Section 8 housing to be inserted into established residential areas upheld by the recent Supreme Court Fair Housing Act decision the result of Americans demanding the action?
I believe the US Supreme Court is owned by the banking cartel, the same as the other two branches, Executive and Legislative.
In summary, the cartel can make the laws (Congress), enforce the laws (the president), and confirm the laws (the Supreme Court).
"Who could have imagined ...." -Former Secy of State Condi
"urban" types
Will be trapped in the cities, few will make it out past first ring suburbs. Far too easy to make city roads and infrastructure impassable. Folks, forget the bike paths from city to country, not gonna work...
Indeed.
Unless one bugs out prior to the event unfolding, they are going nowhere fast.
Exactly. It won't be a war between the states. It will be the pavement apes vs everyone else. The war will be short because the apes will burn their own neighborhood.
This would be a good use of the feds 3 billion 40 cal rounds. When they finish those, I'll gladly pay for more. Damn dirty apes.
They can only loot their neighborhood for so long b4 the shelves are empty.
Then the dogs & cats are the main course. Then it's Soylent Green time.
Panama Red sas always good for trigger time.
Bring it the fuk on ... Fuk The FSA miedras
So, who has sworn allegiance to whom and do they understand or care about that? And what are the REAL causes of the economic and social problems in The US? Questions which, of course, the MSM will never address because it would involve real journalism.
Don't you mean "zombies"?
The biggest 'taker' is government and it's army of sociopath union employees
Billionaires and multi-national corporations are the real "takers". The government just works for them.
Don't forget the union soldiers headhunt. They don't take as much as the unions, but they still take for a lifetime.
Exactly. I would split it three ways, a productive class, a dependent class, and a bureaucratic class.
The bureaucratic class is government, all levels from federal to local.
The dependent class is anyone who relies on handouts from the bureaucratic class to survive. This includes not only the welfare queens, but senior citizens, and corporate welfare. (The banksters, fannie mae, etc.)
The productive class are the rest, the working stiffs & profitable companies who generate an income in the private sector that the bureaucratic class can tax and transfer to the dependent class.
When the demands of the bureaucratic and dependent classes exceed the wealth that the productive class can provide, the system will fail. I fear we are very close to that point. It's being delayed by deficit spending (a tax on the future productive class) but for how long can that continue?
In a civil war scenario, I wouldn't think of a lot of the working stiffs as the productive class. Our ideas of production would change, and most people flat out don't have the knowledge to be productive in such a situation. Think more basic needs without long distance transport for stuff like food and clothing. You'll find that some of those retirees still remember pre-green revolution gardening as was taught to them by their depression/WWII era parents. That is useful knowledge. Also, something to keep in mind is that the UK still has a textile factory that is powered by a water wheel. In a civil war, our existing supply chains would break, and we'd have to forge new ones, without all of the benefits of the industrial civilization that we grew up in.
This is not something that we want to happen, though it very well may, and it is preferable to WWIII, given the likely end of that.
The working stiffs you have in mind will die of starvation at the very beginning of a civil war. At the initial stages as supply lines and production collapse there will be a famine, especially in the urban areas that will kill millions within months. There will be a clearly visible impact on the demographics of the what used to be the US comparable to the plague epidemic of Europe.
But I have another thing in mind. You know those nukes that are stockpiled here and there in the US, including highly radioactive materials and waste. I am not saying that someone is going to launch a nuclear missile, but they certainly have a good chance of getting a bomb to detonate or get their hands on some highly radioactive material and dispersing it against a hostile state. This civil war people talk about may very well reduce US territory into a wasteland.
A very large portion of the US's nuclear warheads are within 20 miles of me. They worry me, quite a bit. If society breaks down, which ones are operational? Who takes control of them? What I do know is that if I know they are there, our potential WWIII opponents know it is there too. It's a target, along with Sandia National Labs and the Air Force Research Labs.
Uhhhh ... they forgot to tell you?
Actually it's YOU!! You're in charge of the nukes during an emergency. WHY? Well you just explained why. You live within 20 miles of all of them. :-)
It ain't just the nuke warheads on the bombs and missiles either. Once infrastructure begins to break down what will happen to all those nuke plants scattered around the country. The ones with containment pools built for 100 spent fuel rods that now hold 800+ with no where to put them? The one's situated along the rivers alone will destroy vast areas if they contaminate the water.
Read "One Second After". While an EMP is less likely, the results of a breakdown in the banking system will set the stage for a like result.
Always wondered...
How would an EMP device affect a pre-electronic ignition automobile - you know, ones with points & condenser as opposed to solid state set ups...?
All of the tests that show a vehicle getting knocked out by an EMP used a pulse that was strong enough to suggest that if you were close enough to the detonation to get that strong of a pulse, you had other things to worry about. Like heat, blast and the like.
Any vehicle in a metal garage will do fine. Likewise electronic gadgets in a steel filing cabinet.
The B-29s that dropped Fat Man and Little Boy didn't crash.
they had no microprocessors. good old points and condensors. mechanical controls. pre 70 cars would be okay. if it has points and condensors it should be fine.
The effect you have in mind is called High Altitude EMP and is associated with the effects of nuclear explosions close to the ionosphere. They are of very limited effect at ground level blasts.
hey Evil Franklin
Hope you don't have Bitcoin because after an EMP you won't have a dime.
that's a bit of a simplistic thought.
please explain to me how my bitcoins, which are backed up on paper, will be affected by EMP?
EMP dosn't affect paper - you know that, right?
there may be a disruption of the network, depending where the EMP occurs, but the bitcoins will still be viable once you get connected again.
When civil war comes people will bring up Lincoln's example as a "justification" for another war of aggression to keep a rebel state in the union.
I recently went to the Lincoln memorial and asked people what they thought of Lincoln's legacy.
It was an interesting look inside the American mind.
The video is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHrL3VvqZS8
Thanks for the video. Your doing a great job maintaining a reasonable demeanor as you speak with people. The folks you have been talking to all seem well meaning enough, but seem to fail at critical thinking. You do a good job not making them feel stupid while still helping them understand the inconsistency of their views. I think your approach is probably helpful in that the people you are talking too are more likely to consider what you are saying because you have avoided offending them. That said, these videos are really depressing. It really drives home how statist and collectivist most everyone appears to be. Not as depressing, it appears that some of the folks you are talking to are understanding what you are saying and they seem to be open to the idea that maybe they need to reevaluate their perspective.
Attention senior citizen bashers,
You should seek some cyanide pills in case you become a senior. Some of us paid more taxes in ONE YEAR than you are likely to earn in an ENTIRE LIFETIME. We also contribute each year at rates of multiples of what you earn per year.
Please tell us what you produce, it should be enlightening. Some of us didn't earn it in this country but have to pay for the unfortunate circumstance of popping out of the womb in this shithole. Before you start that love it or leave it routine, I've paid rental tribute to this piece of shit and I'll choose when to leave. If you are smart, you will indicate it by getting another passport while you still can, my fellow beef cow slave. Not every senior is a leach and not every senior is sitting on his ass but are rather still creating jobs. I hope you are being more productive than the average American, especially those 93 million whining parasites that will not work if offered. I'll let you explain your reasons for your pedestal bull pit rhetoric.
LOL consuming orders of magnitude more joules than any other generation in the history of terrestrial life, ever, and thereby living through the most prosperous age, evern, both by a few orders of magnitude, was just not enough, dammit. Where's my free walker! Thanks for nothing, grandkids who will be lucky to find work as enserfed sharecroppers!
They were just as gullable as mellinials would have been (and arguable are,) had the mellinials been presented with the same choices. You might as well blame human nature, because that's what is at play here. The nice thing is that all of that debt that they built up isn't getting repaid.
Generally agree. But when you say "all of that debt that they built up" I hope you don't mean to say that Seniors built up this debt. I'm an old-timer and most of my life there was little or no debt. This 'government debt' thing is a fairly recent phenomenon.
If you want to see civil war just stop working... Literally just stop going to work. Do everything through barter and black market. This oligarchy would show it's true colors. If 20% of producers removed themselves from the system. Through voting the takers are winning. Choose not to participate. :P
Welcome to Fight Club, Mr. Gault
Sounds like the Greeks, they have sucked the banisters into their tar pit.
am playing that part now, and my a bunch of my fellow comrades are thinking along this line as well.
And i am guessing 90+ million other Americans too.
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/05/02/report-more-than-92-million-am...
some by no means of their fault and others prepping for what needs to happen...
R-502
I always thought that what you're suggesting is an excelllent alternative. A passive revolution is the answer.
To Quote Tyler "
Hi, you're gonna call off your rigorous investigation. You're gonna publicly state that there is no underground group, or, these guys are gonna take your balls. They're gonna send one to the New York Times, one to the LA Times, press release style. Look, the people you are after are the people you depend on: we cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls, we drive your ambulances, we guard you while you sleep. Do not fuck with us."
It would not take much to make a large impact :P
>>>If 20% of producers removed themselves from the system....
This is essential, though somewhat tricky, to implement.
Many ZHers have mentioned adopting a more self-sufficient lifestyle, while others (including me) have just physically removed ourselves from The Homeland.
Let the Murican FSA and government employees "support" one another; I'm done with that project.
No. No. No. It is the Debt-Money Monopoly pitting the producers and the takers against each other in order to have their way with both groups and anyone inbetween. You can't win when you have no comprehension of the enemy!
No way there will be a civil war.
America will go to war with china for sure.
1. There are 1.4 billion chinese and growing
2. They heavely depend for food from America.
3. Just now there is a massive drought forcing the formers to cut down on watering crops that normaly go to there.
4. If food production slows for china, all the gold in the world can't help them.
And shortages in food will force them into war.
Actually, I think all the gold in the world would help them out quite a bit.
FRNs not so much.
So now when it stops raining we go to war, just who is the enemy here?
I would suggest looking at the USDAs WASDE reports to see exactly how much China really depends on food produced in the US.
Not. Much. At. All.
YOU (but not necessarily anyone else) will certainly be surprised, particularly concerning their near self-sufficiency producing wheat and other grains.
China has been "buying" eastern european and Russian farmland for a few years now.... that is where the exports from these countries go.
the FATUS reports are not aligned with the WASDE reports, btw...
let's look at this plainly... China has to support a fifth of the world's population with only 8% of the world's arable land... they've rocketed past the chance for self-sufficiency a looooong time ago... "near self-sufficiency" translates to "starvation" if you're Chinese... what arable land they have is being sacrificed on the altar of industrial growth and becomes more polluted by the day... no one looking at this basic set of factors is drawing any conclusion that China is self-sufficient when it comes to food, not even the Chinese... you're going to have to carry the water for that assertion on your own, it's simply not correct...
PTS, the Chinese are buying east Africa for a reason... If you think they are dumb enough to count on the US for food you need to rethink your premise.
Totalitarians are not stupid, just power hungry psychopaths..
well, I didn't mention the US but since you did... 20% of all US farm exports go to China... someone over there is eating it, and wants more...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0F174HJpRI
The Chinese communists would not mind losing a few hundred million of their people. They'd welcome it.
There are a number of actions government can take as an attempt to prevent internal strife. War is one of them. "Patriotism! Unite!"
China's first target will be HAARP in Alaska. Search it if you are not up on it.
You research it, it stopped operating 2 years back
http://www.arrl.org/news/view/haarp-facility-shuts-down
Unless you're personally checking their Watt-hour meter, how do you know?
nonono... you have to take it in context, silly!
It's a "violent strategic dislocation" caused by "unforseen economic collapse"
Clearly there is no unforseening going on in this establishment.
Well gather 'round, gather 'round chillin' get down
Well you can get down chillin', get loud
Well you get loud and be proud
Well you can be proud an' be proud you're a rebel
'Cause the South's gonna do it again, yes it is
+100 for the CDB. In that map It has the confederacy and fly-overs clean to minnesota and montana. i welcome our newest members. We have worked together in adversity before and we have had 150 years to think over what we did wrong and how to avoid the same mistakes. leave us alone, if you invade us do so at your own peril. A Southern Man don't need them around anyhow."
Fewest members of the tribe also.....just sayin'
That region also has the lowest levels of education and highest levels of poverty in the USA. Ignorant people are much easier to manipulate. I could envision a Pol Pot type of scenario, where some charismatic asshole gets all the gun toting rednecks to come into the cities and start killing intellectuals or anyone who looks smart, as happened in Phnom Penh.
But personally, I think a civil war is highly unlikely -- it would disrupt the billionaires' cash flow.
But if those states broke free of the money changer parasite states, YKW would emigrate to the source of the newly and deservedly wealthy. Sucking blood is in their nature.
Yes, but what your 'just sayin' merits further exploration/explanation. These people (not all), but as a general rule, tend to be very Pro-government, at least in the large population centers, mainly on the East Coast. I believe they do not necessarily 'fear' the Goy, as much as they want to make certain those gullible Goy herds remain subdued, distracted (entertainment-addled) and obedient. And you think they roll hard on the West Bank...? You ain't seen 'no mercy' until the progressive East Coast dogs-of-war are unleashed on the 'uppity' Goy who refuse to play along.
This next war will take the tactics of Sun Tzsu, not Gen Lee.
It's a song dumbass, not a philosophy.
And who said we would let you join us? Maybe. First step is to agree to renounce chattel slavery.
Funny, it is only very, very rarely that I hear a denouncement of slavery from those promoting "southern culture" or a right to secede.
Were you crossed bused in elementary school by the barrel of a government gun , mother fucker? What the fuck do you know about race or the south or freedom or your own ass ? Can you speak ebonics bitch? The song was just funning but since you opened ignorant mouth there you have it , punk ass white boy , Piss off .
California is actually a good bet.
After the Mexicans killed off all the greenies, IT nerds and coke sniffers, they can redo the Mexican war all over but now their average enemy will be 400 pound wheelchair driving Americans.
Just head to Walmartian.
It'll be like shooting fat asses in an olympic sized swimming pool.
Arizona will form a Union with inland parts of CA and NV against the CA coast. New Mexico will opt out of the Fray. Utah will form an alliance with Arizona and probably Idaho.
CA will hire movie extra's to fight telling them it is a reality show.
No worry for the CO stoner. The fat, drunken slobs trying to climb the CO mountains with a spare load of KFC will die of heart attacks anyway.
Plus one. That guy obviously isn't familiar with the root of the word assassin. http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2012/12/where-did-the-word-assas...
the root of the word assassin is fairly well known, i read about it in robert anton wilson's "illuminatus!" trilogy 20 years ago
however, the hashishin were a CULT specifically brainwashed.
a stoner smoking a joint is not prone to violence - if anything, they are prone to apathy.
Of course that apathy disappears once you put a drone (aircraft, armored vehicle, whatever) controlled as if it were a video game in front of them.
Yeah, you know, all those stoners that command killer flying robots and bomb weddings for a living... Shut the fuck up.
I'm sitting here smoking a spliff right now and I'm not some murderous statist savage. Go outside, get out in the real world, and quit blaming things on the wrong people.
it's funny to watch ignorant people rant about things that they have no clue about.
CO has always been one of the skinniest, healthiest states. they are in 8th out of 50 for thinnest state by BMI index:
http://www.insureme.com/insurance/bmi-index-state
True, they also have the best weed and are gun phobic. Good luck with that.
Denver is gun phobic, but not the rest of the state.
You are controled by "Denver" and have no rights.
@stacking 12321
Thank you for pointing out the asinine statement by the knuckle-dragging imbecile above. The lowest common denominator of the intelligence of the average person commenting on here is sinking real low. Somebody thinks he's funny, but he's actually quite stupid. There's a whole lot of us out here in the Mountain West that could run his ass ragged up and down some pretty wicked mountain trails.
The plurality of our nation once made us great. It is now our biggest downfall. Uneducated imbeciles vote.
i hear you on that...but voting doesn't really matter either way. the entire system is rigged and captured by the elites and their corporations to protect their own interests.
if there's going to be a solution to the current cluster-fuck that is the ussa, it's going to be after the nation collapses (not too much longer now!), and it's going to be built from the ground up, not by decree from useless bureaucrats in washington
Colorado, unlike the south, probably has some of the fittest people in the country.
^This
Can they outrun a 5.56 mm?
Nor Motorola.
Ever heard of war being outlawed, oh boy what would you do with yourself then?
I have ten mags already loaded. Pass the pipe.
why so few? that would be only 1 magazine for one fifth of my weapons.
You are so awesome I didn't down vote you.
Sometimes it's sad to wake up and realize your living in the wrong state.
Miffed
Miffed (and Sgt below),
Don't be too quick to beat yourself up over not being there. As someone who just left a week ago, I feel qualified to speak on the subject. I moved to CO in '94 and had every intention of living there happily for the rest of my life. I love CO, but its changing, and fast. Its filling up with California refugees who have fouled thier own nest so badly they can't live in it anymore. Unfortunately, they think this qualifies them to foul other people's nests.
There is a massive housing bubble nearing the pop. When my husband and I sold our house there, we declared there would be 5 days of showings, and at 5pm on Friday we would choose the best bid. We had 6 to choose from, not one was the asking price. The amount of money we made was nothing short of obscene.
The whole state is going anti-gun. There are people fighting the good fight, but they are losing. Once a big time ag state, the farmland is disappearing underneath subdivision developments. The population is soaring, and depending how long this goes on the resivoir system may or may not keep up. http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_27195411/colorado-ranks-fourth-amo... In my former neighborhood, we used to have a beautiful view of the mountains. You can't even see them anymore.
Of course, the influx of "progressives" is being closely followed by thier attendant "vibrants." Don't know how you feel about that, but personally I don't care for crime that goes with it. Gun laws, water laws, housing density laws, (houses are crammed in like freaking sardines) taxes and more taxes. The Colorado I fell in love with is no more.
This is sad to hear. Some of the best moments of my life were spent in Pagosa Springs near Durango. I loved the people and the simplicity of life. I had always wanted to live there but I certainly don't want to move to anywhere and experience what I am trying to leave behind.
I guess we in California export our undesirables yet take in the undesirables from other states. Makes for an unappetizing life for the few rational conservative types who remain here.
Miffed
What he said.
It's the home of US Army 10th Group (SF) and a ton of pissed off former SF and infantry types that understand they went to war and bled for bankers and fascists. The Marajuana industry has also been a pretty unifying success for those in the state, further galvanizing the libertarian bent. It's also composed of some extremely tough terrain (like Afghanistan but with more tree canopy). So, yea, I wouldn't rule Colorado out. I'd certainly feel comfortable moving there.
Yeah we have seen how much the US Military, SF and the Pentagram have upheld their Constitutional oath since 1861, LBJ whacking JFK for the Vietnam War, 9/11, Obola and never ending bankster criminal bullshit.
As long as the defense contracts roll and Jethro can make his pickup truck payments and gets cheap beer and smokes down at the PX then life is good.
I heard the housing for the 10th Group is total shit. Someone there from GA said it is like the projects in Atlanta. McCain's boys.
Can the curent game continue for a very long time?
NO.
Will radical change occur soon?
YES.
Is it going to be bloody, nasty, violent??
Probably.
Sorry..The truth is normally not what you would 'wish' it to be.
" Ever see a stoner load a 30 round magazine?"
Yes.
Underestimates the adversary right out of the gate.
Really! You won't be laughing when Tony and Vinnie Gambino show up. Also the NYPD is the six largest militarized force in the world. New York would do pretty well between the crime families, police and bankers. Could Rival Nazi Germany.
the author of this article is a nut job... just Sunday red meat for the ZH doomer brigade...
NY'ers will only fight if their Government paychecks or EBT are cut off.
So-called "progressives" of NY City and State are living on the fumes of dollar hegemony and Federal Reserve money printing.
excellent point - and touching on what i suspect is a real factor to TPTB allowing (and in all likelihood, encouraging) the widespread acceptance of pot-smoking, and anythng that makes the sheep more docile.
who gets the 'national debt'?
New York.
force majeure
Taco Bell wins
What is the definition of "wins"?
'The Runs'...everyone eating that poison will have the shits and be debilitated. Taco Bell wins...
"After the franchise war, all restaurants are Taco Bell"
--Sandra Bullock "Demolition Man" (1993)
This movie correctly predicted Arnold Schwarzenegger would enter politics and become president after the 37th amendment allowed him to run for the job.
I think native born provisions have been nullified by the resident Kenyan.
Straight outta Kenya
NY and California will eat themselves.
Let's see . . . NY, CA, and Texas are in the strongest position?
Guess which state Jade Helm is being focused on?
You can't treat all states as monolithic entities. Most states have urban and rural parts that are very, very different--with suburbia sandwiched in-between. Just look at NY, CA, IL, TX, VA, and NJ. The urban parts will quickly eat themselves. The suburban buffer areas are most at risk and will be heavily damaged & looted. The surviving remnants may try to take over the rural areas, but they will probably get their asses kicked. The new power centers will be states that have large, heavily armed rural populations, so: TX, PA & upstate NY, GA, rural CA, and IL & WI.
And, yes, the trigger for much of this will be the failure of the Welfare state.
Milwaukee would be better off than Madison. I'm also convinced that Wisconsin and Michigan's upper pen go with Texas.
I've always thought of Milwaukee as little Chicago, but really haven't spend enough time there. Madison might be okay if things break down when UW school is out. It's mostly just a big Leftist suburb, but (trust me) not everyone there fits that mold.
Green Bay will do just fine.
He who shoots first, wins. Hesitation cannot be tolerated. Take no prisoners.
When you see a group approaching, use fire. People fear fire.
Watch AMC’s “Walking Dead” for tips.
There will be no new civil war. The government will increase the level of fluoridation and that kills off your desire to protest. And now they have many new chemicals to accomplish that. Besides, they know lot more about you than your spouse. So control and blackmail is trivial.
A catastrophic crash on Wall Street may bring about violent protests which will be easily managed.
Not to worry, the Deep State has everything covered.
Of course there'll be another civil war. At least one. Then power will be returned, but only through the return of powerful, beloved generals from the far-flung corners of Empire as they abandon outposts to return home and conquer the mainland.
Really. I can't see any violent revolutionary movement being able to organize successfully given the current all-encompassing survellience technology.
Your link on fluoride is absolute horse shit. Zero science. Just the opinions of a scientist, without starting why those are his opinions.
Show me something from a neurologist that can point to the part of the brain that flouride affects.
Amongst other things flouride calcifies your pineal gland. Don't worry you don't really need it............
If you are truly interested, the amount of google effort required is miniscule.
If the government cared about your teeth, they would give out free dental visits. They wouldn't waste time and resources dumping chemicals arbitrarliy in the water supply. Most water isn't even used for drinking anyways.
+1.
If they're so concerned, why don't they put vitamins in the water as well?