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The Surveillance State Goes Mainstream: Windows 10 Is Watching (& Logging) Everything
If Edward Snowden's patriotic exposure of all things 'super secret surveillance state' in America were not enough, Newsweek reports that, as 10s of millions of hungry PC users download the free upgrade, Windows 10 is watching - and logging and sharing - everything users do... and we mean everything.
Windows 10 should be renamed to Spyware OS https://t.co/4N8x3XJ9dv
— Thomas Fuchs (@thomasfuchs) July 31, 2015
From the moment an account is created, Microsoft begins watching. The company saves customers' basic information - name, contact details, passwords, demographic data and credit card specifics - but it also digs a bit deeper... and finding answers is not easy, as one privacy expert exclaimed, "there is no world in which 45 pages of policy documents and opt-out settings split across 13 different Settings screens and an external website constitutes 'real transparency'."
More than 14 million devices are already running Microsoft’s Windows 10 after its global launch on Wednesday, but it’s unclear how many of their users read the company’s Privacy Policy and Service Agreement before downloading. Tucked away in the 45 pages’ worth of terms and conditions (effective August 1) is a substantial power grab: The company is collecting data on much of what you do while using its new software.
From the moment an account is created, Microsoft begins watching. The company saves customers’ basic information - name, contact details, passwords, demographic data and credit card specifics - but it also digs a bit deeper.
Other information Microsoft saves includes Bing search queries and conversations with the new digital personal assistant Cortana; contents of private communications such as email; websites and apps visited (including features accessed and length of time used); and contents of private folders. Furthermore, “your typed and handwritten words are collected,” the Privacy Statement says, which many online observers liken to a keylogger. Microsoft says they collect the information “to provide you a personalized user dictionary, help you type and write on your device with better character recognition, and provide you with text suggestions as you type or write.”
All this information doesn’t necessarily remain with just Microsoft. The company says it uses the data collected for three purposes: to provide and improve its services; to send customers personalized promotions; and to display targeted advertising, which sometimes requires the information be shared with third parties.
Though possibly surprising to some, the company’s data collection practices fit within the industry’s new normal.
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Also like its competitors, Microsoft says it will disclose content of private communications or files in saved documents to “respond to valid legal process.” In the company’s latest bi-annual transparency report released in late March, it disclosed that of the 31,002 government requests for information received between June and December 2014, it disclosed content of personal communications in 3.36 percent of cases and non-content data in 73.17 percent.
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Microsoft didn’t respond to requests for comment about specifics of the privacy terms, but in a blog post introducing them, Microsoft’s deputy general counsel, Horacio Gutierrez, calls the Privacy Statement a “straightforward resource for understanding Microsoft’s commitments for protecting individual privacy.” Alex Meer of the gaming website Rock Paper Shotgun countered, “There is no world in which 45 pages of policy documents and opt-out settings split across 13 different Settings screens and an external website constitutes ‘real transparency’.”
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In other words, big brother is very much here... and we invited into our homes for free.
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I got the idea from reading what you have been writing over the last couple of days. Frankly, you and I are a lot alike in terms of our mutual dislike of the Corporatists. Moreover, I read what you wrote yesterday about jamming up the system, and thought to myself that you must be being tracked by officialdom if they look for dudes with ideas in their heads on how to circumvent the system systemically. Whatever manifests just stick to your guns and never waiver in the goal directed behaviour. We are winning, and the system is toppling even if it looks propped up.
Always in solidarity with you, kchrisc, just don't point that Carbine at me.
;)
Thanks.
However, it is not that I dislike the corporatists, or anyone really, but that I love Liberty. And I love the American people and the Constitutional republic as exemplified in the American country.
I then abhor any and all threats against Liberty, the American country, and people.
As for "jamming up the system." The main goal, in addition to providing examples that I have thought up, is to highlight that violence should not be the only tool of resistance. There are lots of vulnerabilities in tyranny's system to be taken advantage of if one looks and thinks.
In other words, my primary mission is to get people to think, and avoid only reacting to tyranny, and/or just reflexively utilizing violence in an effort to kill tyranny. To get people to think, and then focus on DISMANTLING tyranny.
As a thinking person that fully and completely understands tyranny, is at war with tyranny, is actively preaching against tyranny, and is actively thinking about how to dismantle tyranny, I figure I do not have a long shelve life. History informs as such.
I don't think that we are winning, as most American remain deeply asleep, and are not resisting. We are in the inciting, "rage," stage of resistance (See Samuel Adams and the Committee of Correspondence) It is our, those awake's, responsibility to stir awake those that are sleeping. More importantly, it is our responsibility to enrage, prepare, and point those that do stir in the correct direction toward tyranny. All the more important because tyranny has been conditioning them that their enemy, and priorities, are gays, abortionists, "illegals," Muslims, etc. But those groups are not printing plunder, demanding usury on same, or choking people out in the streets.
See you on the battlefield, or listen for the tapping out of my song of Liberty from my cell deep in one of Zion's basements.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
The Cloward-Piven strategy cuts both ways!
Can't legally call it an interest rate as a private individual, only licensed financial entities can do that. You can however call it a compound surcharge on the principal and state that it is for operational requirements in managing your licensing of your letter as long as your letter is unique and has been used.
Good luck in your black mail letter writting campaign. May all their base are belong to you.
MASTER OF UNIVERSE is superordinate to all Corporations & governments in the World. MASTER OF UNIVERSE automatically has veto power over all decision making made by any, and all, governments & Corporations Worldwide. MASTER OF UNIVERSE cannot be challenged due to pre-eminent status as untouchable by any entity, or power, in this World, or beyond.
MASTER OF UNIVERSE reserves all rights to change all laws to suit whatever adhocracy MASTER OF UNIVERSE invents as he screws the Corporatists to a wall permanently.
Right on. Fuck'em all...just add a couple of things in there for you...there perfect.
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MASTER OF UNIVERSE®™ is superordinate®™(1) to all Corporations(2) & governments(3) in the World. MASTER OF UNIVERSE®™ automatically has veto power over all decision making made by any, and all, governments & Corporations Worldwide(4). MASTER OF UNIVERSE®™ cannot be challenged due to pre-eminent status(5) as untouchable by any entity(6), or power(7), in this World(8), or beyond(9).
MASTER OF UNIVERSE®™ reserves all rights to change all laws to suit whatever adhocracy MASTER OF UNIVERSE®™ invents as he screws the Corporatists to a wall permanently. To whom it may concern by reading this letter you now owe MASTER OF UNIVERSE®™ 1 billion Zimbabwe dollars by <date>. If funds are not received by <date>, a daily surcharge of 29.5% compounded daily will be applied towards the operational requirements.
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(2).
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(4).
(5).
(6).
(7).
(8).
(9).
Sincerely all your base are belong to MASTER OF UNIVERSE®™ PhD; Universal Universes, Esq.
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Stick with me and I'll make you a Zimbabwe hundred trillionaire in no time. Just fill in the references of the numbered terms. Put that in an envelope, mail a copy to yourself so it's notorized by the post office with their stamping/date machine. Put that delivered stamped copy in a safe place then go forth and cause havoc with your insane ploy of letter writing. If you get bored of printing letters, just shit in a box and mail it away to head offices.
Plus 100 for "adhocracy". Plus 200 for "just shit in a box & mail it away to head offices".
If I ever hit the BIGtime you have a PR job at seven figures.
Sounds like the agents contract I wrote & tried to enforce the first time I went bust & had to start over. Good luck.
This has been going for a long time. The new version of Windows just adds a few things. Windows has always created files called Event Trace Logs. You can do a search for these files on your hard drive, since they all have an extension of .ETL. You might be surprised to find hundreds of these files.
If you try to delete them, you will get "access denied" on many of them. And good luck trying to find the internal program that is creating these file, much less trying to stop them from being created, and information logged.
Since Windows 7 was released July, 2009 this tracking has been going on for at least 6 years.
Welcome to the Matrix.
And if you are curious what these files do, take a look here: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd569137.aspx
And then there's the Customer Experience Program. The information pertains to Windows 7, but should be pretty similar in Windows 8 but probably is much different in Windows 10.
http://securityforwindows.blogspot.com/2015/03/i-recently-upgraded-my-tr...
Once you are finished with that one, take a look at this one describing Shellbags. http://www.williballenthin.com/forensics/shellbags/
Silly name, but here's what Shellbags are: Microsoft Windows uses a set of Registry keys known as “shellbags” to maintain the size, view, icon, and position of a folder when using Explorer. These keys are useful to a forensic investigator. Shellbags persist information for directories even after the directory is removed, which means that they can be used to enumerate past mounted volumes, deleted files, and user actions.
Windows 7 has about 250 event logs. Windows 10 has over 1,000. All to improve your Windows experience, I'd imagine. /sarc
It's Windows that is creating the files. You can read them by going to Control Panel/Administrative Tools/Computer Management and looking at the Event Viewer.
Access denied usually means the file is open. If you want to delete something and get access denied, login in Safe mode, and try deleting it agian.
I'm going to read up more on Shellbags, but if it is in the registry then you can find it and kill it using RegEdit. That said, you should know what your doing before messing with the registry.
#41
Assuming that RegEdit can protect you is naive. The registry is just a clearing house for Windows vaiables - an application is not obligated to store its variables there...
A little off topic but I'll share this experience anyway.
I use Gmail. I've booked a trip for the end of the month and received an email confirmation for the hotel reservation.
Recently I went looking for a calendar - they no longer package such things with Windows any longer - so I elected to use Google's Calandar app. I was shocked when I opened the calendar and they (Google) had parsed my Gmail account and filled in my upcoming trip on my calendar !!
Yeah, like a really horrible relative who has no boundries. They just help themselves.
My relatives put an ugly ugly picture of me on FB. I was livid.
The other day, on a whim, I went looking for my dad's street address on the Internet.
First four results had it. All were family history/roots type sites. Seems that someone has been selling his data, and now his address is available for all to see. One even had a "Street-View" link to see his house from the street.
He was livid, as he thought that he had a very low profile on the Internet, and yet there his address was for all to see/find.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
Yes - people get so upset with government snooping - but you would be surprised with how much information even small companies have on you.
Companies collect info from; the credit bureaus (like TransUnion etc), insurance companies, utility companies, state DMVs, court records, patent databases, SS death databases, birth records, internet providers, school records, service records, the post office, phone companies, property appraisers ... I could go on and on.
Smart people are good at taking all this disparate data and 'fusing' it into a concrete image of you / your relatives / and your neighbors - over decades. They can form 'maps' of all your social interactions etc.
It takes a little work but you can make it harder for these people by - for example - telling your credit card companies you do not allow them to share your data.
Or it is all garbage. I don't show up in my current location, and neither to the neighbors correspond to their addresses.
Or it is all garbage. I don't show up in my current location, and neither to the neighbors correspond to their addresses.
I heard of Windows a long time ago. That was a system that came after DOS and the NWO gave Bill Gates computer tech to market. Last I heard anyone was using was XP. Now like myself and most of my colleagues everyone uses Linux.
Perverts. Honestly. Spying on people is perverted. You make money by being pervs.
The free Windows 10 offer exists to corral as many lemmings as possible into the Microsoft App Store ecosystem. Then after they have you they will eventually make it illegal to obtain software and software media from third party vendors. They are basically Applelizing that shit.
Ok another issue with Windows 10, from Krebs security news on the wireless lack of privacy..it shares your WiFi with contacts..lovely right?
http://krebsonsecurity.com/2015/07/windows-10-shares-your-wi-fi-with-contacts/
So sneaky.
"Hey, we're going to share your WiFi settings to your contacts. Oh, and we're one of your contacts, and you said that we could share your info with outside parties. The DC US and Zion happen to be best buds with us, and so one of our outside parties happens to be the Zasi (Zionist State Security). They may drive by and partake more of your privacy via your now compromised WiFi network. Thanks."
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
Don't use wifi.
I have no intention of downloading it .
This stuff is everywhere and as I have said for a few years now, we are under the Attack of the Killer Algorithms..videos from folks smarter than me
http://www.ducknet.net/attack-of-the-killer-algorithms/
Look at what the pharmacies do to you as well...not enough data, you're scored by default as being non compliant and called an Outlier if you pay cash for your meds, war on cash over here too.
http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2015/07/patients-who-pay-cash-when-filling.html
13 quarters of declining sales...so IBMWatson and CVS cook up a story on how they can analyze data and find better ways to treat people with chronic conditions..it's a bunch of bull as even doctors have agreed with me on this one, it's like everyone in healthcare is working to find better ways with treatment..it's just a bunch of BS. CIOs have a lot of pressure too as IBM will get them fired sometimes if they try to replace some of their technologies in various healthcare entities.
http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2015/07/cvs-and-ibm-watson-projectplease-make.html
Also dont use Chrome, or Google anything - use Linux + Firefox
Ahem - Firefox is already half-owned/-influenced by Google.
windows 7, firefox
In preparation for that, back in April, Microsoft released an update (KB3035583) for Windows 7 (Optional) and 8.1 (Recommended) that is called the Get Windows 10 app.
MS could be installing shit without knowledge, but uninstalling this KB is a good start.
Don`t use MS firewall -use third party
Windows 10 = Window Peeping Tom
Didn't anyone wonder why it is free?
Bill Gates is as toxic as Monsanto, is part of Monsanto, advocates GMO, so why the surprise?
W10 = GMO operating system
Amazing.
Back around 1999 (??) there was some early adware/malware called "Gator" that watched your content and keystrokes and fed you ads, also killed your performance and ate your bandwidth. Did Microsoft provide users with features to Internet Explorer to protect them from Gator (which would not necessarily warn you when it installed, and might hide from detection)? No, they very explicitly made certain NOT to protect Internet Explorer from such exploits. Instead, they publicly considered BUYING GATOR!
And now they're there.
But for that matter, so is Google.
I rather like MS hardware, but they produce software as well ? That is interesting.
With all this spying, maybe they're learn where Jimmy Hoffa's body is located.
They found him already. When they took off Tammy Faye Bakker's makeup/
I still remember how to use a typewritter and ledger.
I have been usiing Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit for 5 years. Downloaded the cracked copy 5 years ago from torrent site and did a clean install.
Works perfect but one thing I always do with Windows is go into SERVICES and DISABLE ''windows update''.
Not turn off update. Totally disable it.
Fuck Windows 8.1 and Fuck Windows 10.
If not for my SAT dish programming software which needs Windows to run, I would just use Android.
You never cease to amaze me.
Pouring sugar in the gas tank of people who annoy you.
Stealing software while claiming to be rich enough to afford anything you want.
Thinking that software downloaded from a cracked torrent site is "clean".
That Android is less invasive than Mr. Softy.
Are you sure-- I mean absolutely, positively and completely sure-- that you are not a member of that religious minority which you hate so much?
I scan all things I download from torrent sites. Android you can manipulate much easier than any other software.
Come on, Dutch, that is only going to find the low-level hackerista stuff that is not sponsored by whichever company provides your scanning software and/or their specific set of governmental overlords.
Unless you go through millions of lines of source code one-by-one, scanning isn't going to find what isn't meant to be found. I'm sure the Iranians religiously scanned the software for their centrifuges morning, noon, and night.
As for Android, I can't say, but the company motto is "Do Evil." so I'm not taking any chances with them.
The truth is that we all run these risks in one way or another (since we're here) and should not expect that other ears aren't listening at all times. We all got plenty of stuff that we don't want to share with nosy parkers worldwide.
Yeah. I know I was rooted automatically. I downloaded the Tor browser before I knew the score. However, I can feed them whatever disinformation I please. Damn, now they know I know they are there. Which part is real and which part was served to the NSA bastards?
"I would just use Android"
I presume, given the previous content of this particular dispatch, that you disappeared in a puff of Irony moments after you typed this.
I try to boycott MS, Google, Facebook, Yahoo, Apple, Twitter, Verizon, AT&T and anything else mainstream internet. You can't hide completely but you can camouflage, obfuscate, and lower your dgital foot print for shits and giggles. But also helps protect you from hackers and public servant perverts at NSA.
1. use Linux, encrypted proxy servers like VYPR (cheap), and completely encrypted email like protonmail.com (free). If advertisers don't see you it doesn't matter so much if their files are scooped up by our faithful public servants at NSA.com
2. use more than one computer and communication devices, compartmentalize use
3. change your device hardware often, and obfuscate ownership. My dead grandmother still uses throwaway phones and takes out the battery when she travels.
4. can also use wireless blocking pouches to transport digital devices
5. splatter your license plate with a little black "tar" so can't be read by machines -- "Ooops officer! Thanks so much for pointing that out!"
6. couple battery powered led lights in a ball cap will ruin the images used for facial recognition
7. Along with compartmentalizing usage of devices, be mindful how your internet habits identify you. Eg., when you visit your favorite internet porn whore videos everyday on the same website(s) you are so busted no matter which computer you use anywhere in any internet cafe -- cause that's unique to you! See? That's your "Digital DNA'
Anybody else got anything to add or subtract to the above? Always looking to share ideas.
Go to work for Geek Squad or some other form of mobile computer repair service.
Then do your nasty downloads onto a thumb drive from your customers IP addresses.
Good post.
When you take out the battery from you mobile, look for the tiny back up battery as well, it's there somewhere but might be hard to find. Use an old 'phone, I mean very old, mine is about 12 years old, much safer.
Cut a piece of aluminium foil about three times the size of you wallet, tri fold it and put it in the banknote section, make sure your credit cards are covered when the wallet is closed. You do know there are scanners that read your credit card info from several feet away don't you and with these new 'tap and pay' cards the scammers don't even have to know your pin.
This probably explains why I haven't been able to
get a single Arch Linux build to work on a
Win7 Vbox in the last 2 weeks...
If consumers already run it on 14 million devices and growing, then the market makers don't care. In fact, Americans have proven they do not care about spying on them. They almost welcome the chance to have government see how pliable and patriotic they are.
Again, this comes down to decades of Media Mind Control. And the complete destruction of the free mind by Public Education. Where a kid enters free and open to thoughts of all kinds, and leaves totally brain washed and dumbed down to an amazing degree, as college entrance level students reveal when they try and do any real college level work.
exactly right Jack.
This is the price for a free OS, isn't it?
At leas I stopped wondering where the catch is.
windows 10 is watching and logging everything - but how many trackers does ZH have?
over a dozen or so?
at least 10 exterior js scripts, and I also noticed gravatar spyware, and the usual twitter, linkedin and facebook spyware buttons that alert said parties of your every click on zh.
Theres probably 10 adservers too, but I block those.
Or use the tor browser.
Not enough. The network is bugged. You can get around it.
Ghostery blocks trackers and ZH works fine. But there are plenty of financial and news sites that won't allow access with Ghostery enabled.
https://www.ghostery.com/en/try-us/download-add-on/
And there are many financial sites I do not use.
You can turn it off. Just search "privacy settings" and you get all the options in one place in your settings panel. I'm just saying. Don't flame me.
"Microsoft is Israeli almost as much as it is American"
—ex-Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer, who is Jewish
That should give you an idea.
TELLING THE TRUTH IS ANTI-SEMITIC
Now Gates, a virulent anti-White, appointed an Indian national and an African-American to head MS.
They hire H1-Bs and other alphabet visa types to STOCK their warehouse in REDMOND!
The Indians write SHIT code. Just fact.
You have nothing to fear, unless you're doing something wrong or illegal.
Haven't heard that one for a while
I've got news for you, unless you're a rich criminal banker, everything you do is wrong or illegal.
I'm not doing anything illegal, so why am I afraid.
Stalin didn't care if you were doing anything illegal or not. If you wound up on his list you were liquidated.
Stalin great hero of zero hedge.
Since the sheeple have become consumers of marketing, and no longer consumers of goods and services, what's an OS to do?
Try doing searches for things you like to see, rather than things you want to buy - such as bra's, panties, and lingerie.
anyone with half a brain always knew cloud was a dumb idea from a user standpoint. as for mr. softie he grows moar pathetic every year. soon to be utterly irrelevant (yet thoroughly pervish and behind the times) like a bad grandpa who lives in your basement staring up through the cracks in the floor.
Google was hoping to index cloud based information. Only if you're stupid enough to share the information for a fee.
We can leave a Trojan files on our network so Microsoft can copy free intellectual rights. Guess what happens next. Oh noes. Someone has a virus. Chuckles.
We received a unknown variety of viruses when downloading personal paid Web Key licensing accounts. Boohoo. We just want to install Windows 10. /laughs.
Tylers : Please provide the ability to 'page' through postings at the TOP of the page similiar to the way it is at the bottom.
Let's crowdfund a new OS - F. MSFT
Isn't this a big reason to use linux? an open sourced software
YES! Microsoft and it's slimy, disgusting, vaccinating founder TOTALLY SUCK!
I would if there was a single distribution ready for prime time.
I've tried Mint, SimplyMEPIS and several others. No good for me.
smacker: I would if there was a single distribution ready for prime time.
Linux Mint has improved about 99% since version 14 or so. The new 17.2 is more than ready for prime time.
....oh, and it's free....
and it doesn't do automatic updates....and...it's not loaded with spyware... and....ummm, you own it.
Been using LINUX now for about 6 years. No viruses. No anti viruse software...
Go on, pull the other leg.
Actually, I tried LinuxMint v13.0 and it was one of the best but it still fell well short of being used as a replacement for Windows. I have some irreplaceable audio/video s/w that doesn't run under Linux even with Wine.
I guess it might be time to take another look at Mint to see if it could be a partial replacement.
Thanks...
Does anyone still remember a hidden system file called "nsa.dll" from MS-DOS days?
And there was "NSAkey" also
And there was "NSAkey" also
And there was "NSAkey" also
Well, it is really Windoze Nein... is anyone suprised? LOL.
DO you think google is as pure as the driven snow? And which OS is really, really not col-lecting info? Please.
OT: Government Motors got hacked: http://www.wired.com/2015/07/gadget-hacks-gm-cars-locate-unlock-start/
The network is the computer. - Bill Joy
The network is tapped by so many entities that sharing and selling your data was a multibillion dollar racket by 2003.
Bring back Windows XP!
Linux.
Well said.
It is nice to know that our government is using Microsoft... I am very confident those privacy settings work and those IT admins at .gov have taken the time to flip through each screen on every Windows PC in their midst. Also, I am confident that Microsoft would never steal the data anyway and I am even more confident that Microsoft would harden their OS so that the NSA, Mafia's and/or various syndicates would not have a back door or hide a zero day exploit in plain site! not.
Personally, I don't like Windows, neither Mac. It's not just about security, the entire OS and GUI sucks.
The last MS product that was more or less decent was W7. Then, with W8, they tried to unified desktops with mobile devices, making a horrible OS that nobody likes. The same applies to W8. They are not good for working in a normal PC or laptop at work, and they suck in mobile devices.
Now, regarding MAC, they are even worse. They are capped, so the average stupid blonde who just wants to show off, can't fuck the system. You can't uninstall a program, you can't add another hard drive, you can't even format a fucking SD card. Anyway, who cares, it has nice icons with animations and a very nice aluminum body, that's the only thing people seem to care about.
Regarding Linux, it has a lot of problems as well, The GUI si far from being perfect, but you can always find a customized linux for you. Aren't you good at computers? Install Ubuntu. Do you want something specially tailored for you? You can go for Arch or even Gentoo? The range of Linux distributions is so big, that you will find what you need.
whats the difference with your smartphone? android or ipone. its may even worse
they track you where you are, even if you disable wifi and gprs.
they convert your conversations into words and send them to nsa and 3rd party etc.
they steal your personal data, your number and contacts.
they upload your images and crate a profile about you.
It's reasonable to assume whatever you share with M$ is ultimately shared with government -- or even perhaps governments, given the Five Eyes are basically a co-op singularity.
MrSofty has always made a living stealing other peoples code and information. They paid 50k for MS-Dos -:) Then MrSofty contractually had the nitwits at IBM build the first release of Windows for them (which they stole from Apple who stole it from Xerox - along with the mouse) but retained the exclusive rights - remember OS9? I think that was IBMs release that last a couple years before dying - true multitasking though -:) MrSofty went on to steal Excel from Lotus, Word from WordPerfect, IE from Netscape, Powerpoint from PageMaker (I think it was) - the list goes on and on. The only thing they have done on their own which appears to be successful is xBox - although they haven't been innovative, that's been the others leading the way...xBox is probably a bigger "spy" than any other device right now - well, except the cellphone of course. I really thought that open-source and Apple would destroy MrSofty and while they have too a large extent (for consumers), it is the corporate domain which they still dominate and that trickles over to personal use so. MrSofty is more than happy as is Google and the rest to hand over everything they know about us because that translates to their survival and fat paychecks - corproations colluding with the gubmint is called Fascism but today's normal is Symbiotic. This is why, I guess, MrSofty is willing to "give away" upgrades to Windows10 - they are being heavily subsidized by the gubmint and, probably, other entities (gubmints, corporations, oligarchs, etc). I stopped using Windows personally in 2001 and would never look back, unfortunately I still end up using it to support various software implementations - sux and I hate it, always painful.Agree with many others here, use open source, the applications are as good or better than many of the "standards" and I don't think they spy on you...
Microsoft Windows 10 Most Intrusive and Restrictive Version Ever? http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=272455.0
Certainly gives new meaning to the book titled "The Cost of Something For Nothing." (1904)
The more things change...
United States v. Microsoft Corp.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft
United States v. Microsoft Corporation 253 F.3d 34 (D.C. Cir. 2001) is a U.S. antitrust law case, ultimately settled by the Department of Justice, where Microsoft Corporation was accused of becoming a monopoly and engaging in abusive practices contrary to the Sherman Antitrust Act 1890 sections 1 and 2. It was initiated on May 18, 1998 by the United States Department of Justice (DOJ) and 20 states. Joel I. Klein was the lead prosecutor.
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Criticism
Economist Milton Friedman believed that the antitrust case against Microsoft set a dangerous precedent that foreshadowed increasing government regulation of what was formerly an industry that was relatively free of government intrusion and that future technological progress in the industry will be impeded as a result.[32] In the January 2007 edition of the Journal of Business & Economic Research, Jenkins and Bing argue that, contrary to Friedman's concerns, the settlement actually had little effect on Microsoft's behavior. The fines, restrictions, and monitoring imposed were not enough to prevent it from "abusing its monopolistic power and [did] too little to prevent it from dominating the software and operating system industry." They conclude that, remaining dominant and monopolistic after the trial, it had continued to stifle competitors and innovative technology.[33]
Great weekend thread everyone.
Learned a lot. Thanks for sharing.
I would think that the government just taps the internet lines and sucks all the information out..why worry about which version of microsoft is being used..
Do your web surfing on a Pad type device that stores nothing. Wipe or re-set it often. Clear cookies and history every time. Web access or Facebook (etc) on a PC or smartphone is like inviting snoopers into your home and life.
Think about this:
Anyone who is in a fiduciary capacity cannot use Windows 10. The terms say it has access to and shares private folders.
Lawyers, Doctors, Banks, Brokers, you name it - if there is sensitive customer data that you are entrusted with you absolutely cannot use Win 10 ever. It is a massive, losing litigation waiting to happen as soon as the data leaks happen.
If MSFT has access to the data, how long do you think it is until a hacker figures out how to redirect it? I give it about 2 months, max. Even without that - you cannot have private information shared with a third party - that is strictly against the law without client consent or a judges order.
You have the option of turning all that stuff when you install it.
AT this point if the NSA wants your data, XP is not going to stop that. Hardware has back doors, and you cant control your ISP. I am afraid this scare of win10 is much to do about nothing.
Window 10 should have an opt-in box for users to agree, otherwise it automaticallymeans opt-out of the privacy clause. Just use use windo7 and dont need to upgrade.. It is good enough for anything so far. Windo 10 will be able to detect all conterfeit software downloaded from website and sue you
Fuck, I feel old.
Long USB sticks. I'm just kidding.
Windows 10 is actually pretty kool.
Windows is just so heavy/ Vista was a nightmare. Seven was good, then MS did 8/8.1 {yuck}
Now we have 3.0/3.1 Firewire and usb slots that are even smaller.
5 gig transfer
rates? antiquated
New Firewire rates 30 GPS Insane. Thats multi' 4K x2
NSA much?
Since America is broke
It will now read every business document you create
in order to give its own businesses ,
an advantage
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What a great plan HomObamma
u can see whats inside the undies of everyone
1. moron and idiot everyone, who does not use FreeBSD, Linux, open source software.
2. very unwise, who is using US made and US certified HW and SW
3. very unwise, who uses tech gadgets, even if he can do his work and communication without the stuff
4. moron and idiot, who des not use GnuPG for emails, who talks on the phone business and private agenda.
simply do not use it and if you use it, then only as much as possible anononymized and encrypted. Otherwise do not touch that technology. Somebody can turn it against you, be it in privat elife, on the job, or the worst, the state will turn it against you.
So what?
I stick to XP and will not change! Don't tell me that microsoft will not store the data if you switch recording off. If the ability is there they use it - always - same is valid for Apple.
Isn't it intersetsing that all this spy-crap is coming from the fu... States!
Yet another exmple of how pathetic the human species is.
How anyone can see all this shit and not feel the species needs to be wiped out by a giant asteroid is beyond me. You have a species where people just can't fucking leave everyone else alone.
Humanity is a FAILED experiment. Time for it go.
What some of you here are posting is that Congress should pass tougher privacy laws.
Have you still not figured out that those bobble heads are all in the pockets of the banksters and their henchmen? The NSA has dirty laundry on each and every politician and is always willing to strike a 'deal' to keep it under wraps in exchange for 'favors'. Really stubborn people are taken out by our friends in Mossad. That's really the only thing Israel does for us anyway.