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"It May Come To A Military Coup": Ukraine's "Nazis" Threaten To Overthrow Government
"It may come to a military coup."
That rather ominous assessment of the political situation in Ukraine comes courtesy of a Right Sector fighter who spoke to FT last week.
Like Saint Mary (the militia which recently pledged to create a "Christian Taliban" and insists that "Moscow must burn"), The Right Sector is one of the many volunteer battalions fighting to rout the Russian-backed separatists operating in eastern Ukraine.
As discussed here on Sunday by Justin Raimondo, "the Right Sector and allied far-rightist militias are the core of [Kiev’s] military operation against the east. Right Sector provided the muscle of the Maidan revolution, standing in the front lines against the widely feared Berkut special forces loyal to Yanukovych. If these thugs must be reined in, then the success of the 'anti-terrorist' campaign is doubtful: yet Kiev is increasingly unwilling to pay the high price of appeasing their increasingly troublesome Praetorians."
To let FT tell it, these "troublesome Praetorians" may be set to overthrow the government in what Right Sector leader Dmytro Yarosh calls a "new phase of the Ukrainian revolution."
The problem, as the battalion leaders see it, is that the revolution simply didn’t usher in much change, and that's primary due to the fact that all of the "patriots" got sidetracked by defending the country from a Kremlin-assisted uprising. "The (Maidan) revolution was interrupted by the aggression (in the east) and the patriots left Maidan and went to the east to protect Ukraine. Only 10 percent of people in positions of power are new; the rest are all the same, pursuing the same schemes they always did," Serhiy Melnychuk, an MP and volunteer battalion founder recently told Reuters.
But in some ways, Melnychuk exemplifies why the volunteer militias and their agenda are so dangerous. "The Aidar Battalion has been accused by Amnesty International of committing war crimes [and its leader] member of parliament Serhiy Melnychuk has been stripped of immunity from prosecution and charged with kidnapping, issuing threats, and operating a criminal gang," Raimondo notes.
Among the volunteer contingents, Right Sector stands out and indeed, its fighters are revered by some soldiers in the regular Ukrainian army. Here’s FT:
The troops are members of Right Sector, the far-right group that evolved from among the most militant wing of the protesters who toppled Viktor Yanukovich, the country’s pro-Russian president, in its pro-democracy revolution last year.
But fears are growing that Right Sector — the only major volunteer battalion Kiev has not yet managed to bring under regular army control — could turn its fire on the new government itself.
Dmytro Yarosh, Right Sector’s leader, called late last month for a nationwide no-confidence referendum in President Petro Poroshenko. He was addressing a rally in Kiev of up to 5,000 Right Sector activists, angry over what they say is the government’s slow progress in fighting corruption and excessive concessions to Moscow as it attempts to reach a settlement over eastern Ukraine.
And earlier last month, two people were left dead in a shootout between off-duty Right Sector fighters and police near Ukraine’s previously peaceful western border — 1,500km away from the eastern conflict. The group claimed it was acting to destroy an illicit cross-border cigarette trade. Some observers have suggested Right Sector was actually trying to take it over.
Russian officials and media have long demonised Right Sector as neo-Nazis who, they claim, were the real driving force behind Ukraine’s revolution. Moscow media’s obsession led some Ukrainian officials to suggest privately that Right Sector might have been penetrated by Russian intelligence as a subversive "project" aimed at undermining the government.
Popular support for the group remains low, although a poll found it had risen from 1.8 per cent last October to 5.4 per cent by July.
Yet as Mr Umland notes, the bravery shown in the east Ukraine conflict by the Right Sector battalion has earned it the esteem of many regular soldiers — posing a dilemma for Kiev.
While it's as yet unclear whether the referendum call will garner enough support to further embolden Right Sector as it ponders a military coup, it's certainly worth noting that Ukraine appears to be headed for a similar fate as that which has befallen many a state in the wake of US-supported "deomcratic revolutions." In short, it almost never ends well and on that note, we'll close with the following quote from a Right Sector "instructor" who spoke to FT:
"Having lived in [western] Europe, I realise that they often confuse Nazism with nationalism, which for us Ukrainians is more akin to patriotism. It’s not about considering your own ethnic group as superior, but being proud of it, and of defending your country."
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I thought it was the US until I saw Ukraine.
Another Kagan family member?
This would be fun to watch. I'd actually enjoy to watch Right Sector take control of an entire country. It would be so much fun to watch Obama and Kerry defend people flying the Swastika outside.
They easily defend and fund people in the baby parts business. Same type of euegnics monsters as the Nazis.
Paging Vicky… please come to the front desk..
You are needed to intercept your Nazi’s.
Vicky can't speak on the phone. She can't speak at all. She's still hungover drunk after celebrating all the bloodshed in Ukraine by spending a night out in wild drinking, getting into drunken barfights, and staggering along the streets, howling and puking and cursing at the police.
The coup will not happen. They will be immediately starved of western funds. How are all the bills going to get paid. People will take to the streets and hang the right sektor members. These guys are not that dumb. They would be completely isolated from the west and the east.
Also dont forget the regular army and all the NATO troops in Ukraine and on the border. No way NATO will let this prize slip away. Right Sektor does not have advanced weapons or skill to take on NATO troops.
What they can do is threaten to kill politicians who dont give them what they want. Threat of selected individual violence is more effective.
toss up as to what is more fun to watch. chinese equities or ruble car crash
You suffocating in that paper bag for starters is more fun to watch. The only crash will be your respiratory system and the dollars in your pocket.
2nd thoughts - the clear winner is ruble train wreck.
Don't forget to get in Kiev 2 hryvnia for your comment.
Right Sector could eliminate those NATO troops in no time. It is not as if NATO has entire divisions in Ukraine. The other thing is that Right Sector would likely use partisan tactics not open combat. They are on their own turf. I know a lot of shit gets written about them here but these are pretty tough people. They lose in East Ukraine because there they are fighting equally tough opponents and ones who operate on their own home turf and are motivated by what is defended. If Right Sector took on an enemy on their home territory that fight would give them an advantage.
Just called into Infowars and David Knight was nice enough to allow me to rant for almost 10 minutes on air. Nice guy.
As long as it's not an historic remnant Rebel battle flag, God forbid.
Not to worry. Pravosekis have distinctive flag.
http://s00.yaplakal.com/pics/pics_original/3/7/3/5348373.png
The words read "rvanii sfinktor", which translates to "torn sphincter".
Geez, I hope you're making that up.
No Stoogie isnt making it up he's self taught or taut on arseholes.
And your semi-conscious homosexualismo-Russophobic rhetoric it is easy to understand that Putin personally on you in the mouth pissed.
How long has it been since the last Nazi regime? 70 years? About time the Nazis got another chance. How long were you going to hold those concentration camps against them?
Just let it go.
Down arrows? Morality is all relative, baby. With Nazis I see fun rallies, neat uniforms and a lots of parades.
Don't be judging.
Didn't Hugo Boss design for the third Reich?
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/341569952961993439/
Maybe Tom Ford should get the assignment this time.
another one?
Redefining the word irony.
It's great to be an American. Everywhere else in the world people have to live serious lives making serious decisions, but here a tough decision is what NFL game to watch during your team's bye week. And we (as a people) don't worry ourselves that perhaps it's our tin-plated policies that are forcing others to live those serious lives. No, we don't bother with that.
It IS great to be an American. But it isn't EASY, living in the Land of Freedom and Liberty©!
Here's what each and every one of you Proud Americans can do AT HOME to defend The Homeland!
1. DRINK alcohol. Remember that "if a little is good, a lot is better, and moar is better YET!"
2. WATCH television. Remember that "if it's on television, it's sure to be true!"
3. GIVE generously to your television preacher. Remember that "America is Jesus' Favorite Country!©"
4. TAKE your medications as directed. Remember that "it's for your own good!"
but most importantly....
5. HAVE FAITH IN THE SYSTEM. Remember that "They Know Exactly What They Are Doing!"
You MUST do all five simultaneously and continually but then you can sit proudly in your BarcaLounger or LaZyBoy, waving your little American Flag and getting all tingly with Patriotism, and say to yourself "I am defending The Homeland!"
Let the Congregation say "Amen!"
Actually, if you get on #1 enough, the rest will take care of themselves and become unnecessary. That's my solution.
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A reason for NATO troops to enter Ukraine.... nice - Nuland bitch...
This is almost exactly the same as Syria now. How can the sheeple not agree with invading when both sides are the baddies.
How many Zionist who aided Hitler still reside in Ukraine? Those are the sicko's creating choas. Target there home of operation. Hint.
Check back with us when you can roll that into a cohesive thought.
Silly Ukrainians, nationalism is only okay for Jewish Israelis.
There is a lot of disinfo about Hitler and NSDAP. I suggest you watch "The Greatest Story Never Told".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWTdZiW_s2I
http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/
Since Hitler died 70 years ago, I doubt that many of the "Zionist[s] who helped Hitler" still reside anywhere. They're dead pal!
We call 'em the "Soros Generation"...
If John Mc Stain had a son, he would be like that....
Songbird Mc Shame should run for Prime Minister of Israel. He killed 3 times as many sailors on the Forrestal as the Israelis did on the Liberty. He didn't need napalm, torpedo boats or missiles either... Give Johnny Wet-start one fighter jet and he's good for at least 100 kills.
They are a bit too proud of not much.
Ah, ah, but they lead the way to a visa-free Europe!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3FIbXIQB2tw/VXOBHJaddII/AAAAAAAAFaQ/YYfb1vnf9V...
Donbass is Russia ? C'mon Stoogie even the Kreml hasnt ceded that....yet.
How about 'Ukrayina eta Evropa' there you go fixed it !
Ochen horror show debil mate
Here is ukropsky portal to Europe:
http://i.imgur.com/YTci5n7.jpg
So go jumping now to glorious destiny!
"Nudelman could not be reached for comment."
But she left a message: "Fuck the EU".
What's wrong with nazi? Oooohh boogyman.
Another failed state created by the Nobel Prize Winner. It's in addition to Libya, Syria, Iraq, Somalia, Yemen, Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Forward.
You forgot to include the US.
You forgot USSA.
OOPS. Great minds and all that.
The Neocons — Masters of Chaos
https://consortiumnews.com/2014/10/17/the-neocons-masters-of-chaos/
So Obama is a neocon
He is a puppet of the Neocons like every presdient
Neocons = Zio Mafia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXz5oIKLqQE
capitalism loves fascism.
They are very compatible. Fascists go after the scapegoat that the capitalists demonize.
What is this capitalism you speak of? I have never seen it.
A transient 19th century thing.
The 20th was the age of fascism.
Not exactly sure what the 21st age should be called.Orwellism or Huxleyism or just Horwellism.
Brave New 1984.
Did you pass economics and/or poli-sci? Didn't think so.
Be sure to vote twice for Hillary.
better failed, cos nothing learned, read the wrong books...
never broke it down, nor named the names...but trained you into system
Try "The Road to Serfdom" by Friedrich Hayek and "Capitalism and Freedom" by Milton Friedman for a start. Then get back to me on how they are all wrong. I presume you've read "The General Theory" by Keynes and "The Communist Manifesto" by Marx and Engels.
Actually I think communism has more in common with fascism.In both communism and fascism, individual choice or preference matter less than society as a whole. In communism, religion and private property are both abolished, the government controls all labor and wealth, and individual choices such as one's job or education tend to be dictated by the government. While private property is permitted in fascism, most other choices are also controlled to increase the strength of the state.
Miffed
finance capitalism made marxism communism
there was large money invested
That's true. It was to push Europe into the US camp. Thus Wall St. funded the Bolshies.
Capitalism doesn't care about ideology.
Fascism is an appeal to both capitalism and socialism while being a tool of capitalism.
Most of the rich did fine under fascism. Many big companies profited greatly from the Nazis.
Not even close. Capitalism is a voluntary exchange of goods and services. Fascism is control of all things. The State will decide how much freedom their is. Fascism allows some market activity unlike Communism, which in it's supreme arrogance seizes all means of production.
Capitalism and any forms of socialism are enemies. However, smarter socialists know they need the power of market activity. In 2015 the world understands the price of unfettered statism.
Fascism simply cuts favors for it's friends in industry. What countries does that sound like, today?
Fascism and Communism are cousins. It was National Socialists versus Soviet Socialist. The proper name of the Nazi's was "National Socialist German Workers' Party". Mussolini was one of the top leaders in the Italian Socialist party before moving to the National Fascist party.
The are both "statist" parties where the State is supreme. Here is a good quotation from Mussolini:
"The keystone of the Fascist doctrine is its conception of the State, of its essence, its functions, and its aims. For Fascism the State is absolute, individuals and groups relative."Communists and fascists would both agree on the supremacy of the State. The both have a single party system with an autocratic ruler at the tope. The State is supreme in both. The State owns and/or controls all people for the collective(ist) good of the people which is the same as the good of the State. It is even directive is interpreting virtue and other moral issues. The only difference between the two is the Communist will actually attempt full state control of industries. The fascist will have some semblance of markets but control all things through regulation, including labor. Private property in the fascist state is a sort of relative term. If the State needed it, it would get it. Economically, most people equate Western government with fascism. The State has the ability to assert full control of any endeavor if it is deemd beneficial to the state or collective population. There are no practical limits. The State, like fascists closely allies with selected and favored private industries as well. It could be Krupps (arms maker) or J.P. Morgan, but the State decides. The two ideologies were usually enemies the same way monarchs were enemies. It is not because their ideologies are very far apart. It is because they are competitors to control the throne/state.
I don't suppose that if they just confiscated one sides weapons that everyone would give up and be friends. I'm pretty sure that would work because so many people say it would prevent gun death
These Azov or Right Sector cowards are never at the front. They hide behind the battle lines.
They would rather murder fellow Christian Ukrainians then take out their Zoligarch dual shit-i-ZZen overlords.
Clueless cowardly morons. Even the EU scum do not want this Right Sector/Azov vermin.
Time for a 'Night of the Long Knives'.
Gaybasher.
So your militia wants to take on Moscow? Good luck.
I'm a little tired of the word "Nazi" being thrown around and used as a cudgel to discredit anybody and everybody who is not an fellow traveler, aka authoritarian socialist/fascist like the EU.
'Nazi' is very specific -- 'national socialist workers party', mixing nationalism + socialism/fascism with some race theory mixed in for good measure as a way to demonize the opposition so it's easier to justify killing them. Socialists insidiously justify killing people for the 'greater good' of the collective, like Obamacare does.
I'm pretty sure you need a Hitler mustache a Gay Propaganda head a fat man in charge of the Air Force and a Jewish banker for the Nazi throw down.
well, these people are flying swastikas and even some particular symbols from the old German Waffen SS! So how would you like to call them? They admire Hitler and NSDAP. They are not just nationalists. Besides, like the old Nazis, they hate Russians and consider them subhumans. They would like to kill all the Eastern Ukrainians, who speak Russian. So, how would you like to call people, who have such symbols and openly call for a genocide???
tough to know who to root against the hardest in Kiev - the Zioligarchs, the US/NATO puppets, or the bona fide street nazis.
How about the United States just stop fucking around in Ivan's backyard?
In a saner world, the Ukrainians could have had an association agreement with the EU to allow for more trade and movement, while retaining a relationship with Russia.
Putin proposed this as an option, just as he proposed 'talks' to discuss some sort of autonomy for novorussiya within ukraine.... the US/NATO was not interested.
I'm not saying Putin is some saint or anything - but it's been largely Russia that has kept a lid on this thing.
This is squarely the fault and responsibility of the American Deep State - and it is too bad the military and spooks have let the Kagans and Nuland's and Brzenskis hijack our country's power for their needless warmongering fuckery.
Why haven't the Ukie Banderites figured out that their enemy isnt their russian speaking countrymen or russia so much as it is the neocons and other American/British militarists?
What Neocons Want from Ukraine Crisis
https://consortiumnews.com/2014/03/02/what-neocons-want-from-ukraine-cri...
Neocons and the Ukraine Coup
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/22253-neocons-and-the-ukr...
Obama, the Neo-Cons and Liberal Interventionists
http://portside.org/2014-08-27/obama-neo-cons-and-liberal-interventionists
Are there no loyal America-Firsters in the deep recesses of the secret government?
Seriously?
Poroshenko Claims Putin May Attack Baltic States, Estonia Disagrees
http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150803/1025358811.html
Nazi's overthrowing Nazi's. Sweet.
So, how long befoer the Uke's figure out they've been had?
Right after the Poles.
"Nazi's overthrowing Nazi's. Sweet."
Fascinating comment :-)
Moar cookies should fix this
Haha.. Their bravery killing children, women and shooting artillery at hospitals and civilian houses. Bravery. Running away when traktorists and miners from Donetsk saved their homes and their loved ones, leaving poor ukrainian conscripts to die in Debaltsevo without mercy. Brave boys these right sector scum.
Popular support for the group remains low, although a poll found it had risen from 1.8 per cent last October to 5.4 per cent by July.
Wow. They are hated more than CON-GresZ, Hillary and the Jebster.
Why Russia Shut Down NED Fronts
July 30, 2015
Exclusive: The neocon-flagship Washington Post fired a propaganda broadside at President Putin for shutting down the Russian activities of the National Endowment for Democracy, but left out key facts like NED’s U.S. government funding, its quasi-CIA role, and its plans for regime change in Moscow, writes Robert Parry.
https://consortiumnews.com/2015/07/30/why-russia-shut-down-ned-fronts/
What summer camp is that in the vid?
Tough guys prancing around in their underpants will impress few.
When you think about it my friends, victory of Novorossian people over this scum, supported by richest and mightiest force on this poor planet is biggest story of this century! Think about this my friends, because they show that it is possible!
I have huge respect for the people of Donbas/Lughansk aka DPR and LPR plus the Syrians and Syrian military.
You never hear a word in the corrupt western media about their epic struggle for survival.
Guess why Freddie.
But Caitlyn, he z a hero!
/cutout dick
ZH as putin regime propaganda asset is boiling again same soup on this same topic regarding events in Ukraine using same ingredients: Nazis, Fascists, coup, etc.
So again here is my reply to that.
Ukraine was a satellite state for putin regime. That means it suffers great deal of same problems as in Russia under putin regime. The main problem is corruption at all levels and deep in every citizen way of thinking. It’s hard to get out if it is so rooted still from USSR times. So what happened here is that there where corrupt border patrol personal and local police officers who smuggled from Russia illegal weapons, alcohol, drugs, etc. As local authorities responsible from stopping such crime where corrupt (now they are fired from their job) didn’t do nothing – those militia took this situation in their own hands. It’s not how it should be done under normal situation but it was only thing they could do to stop coming those drugs and weapons from Russian side. Than when they turned weapons against local authorities who where corrupt – things went out of hand quickly but in the end they gave up them self and laid down arms. Of course putin regime propaganda made a great deal of this and I see that Zero Hedge as putin regime asset continues to invest in this story to twisted as loony as it can get.
I won’t go down to each of the lie in this article – because it would be like anyone saying to you “You are a donkey” and then you have to invest time to prove it you are not a donkey – that’s just idiotic and was of time.
But when you think about Ukraine than know these facts:
1.) Ukraine had free democratic parliament and presidential elections (far right sector got super small minority seat) – that where recognized as legit from whole world including Russia Federation.
2.) Ukraine government signs deals and their representatives shakes hands with all leaders from other countries in the world – including with putin.
3.) People from east Ukraine that are occupied by pro-Russia putin regime terrorists – can and are traveling both from occupied territories to west Ukraine and back – bringing their pensions, products, relatives etc.
Now, if there where Nazis / Fascists in west Ukraine – none of this would be possible.
This is an information warfare – it’s easy to become a victim. Only thing is you can do is to look at facts you can check your self and do your own conclusions. Look at map of DNR & LNR and ask a question how come such a small territory can sustain war for 2 years. Russia 5 day war in Georgia costs 12,5 billion rubles that’s 2,5 billion RUB for one day.
If there is Nazi ideology rising somewhere than it is in Russia under putin regime hate propaganda. After that only Nazi zombies comes out:
https://youtu.be/g5E_qMHTO0U
Speeches just like Hitler had his time. Even if you don’t understand Russian – you will feel that nazi hate energy :
https://youtu.be/AKABlOs6DWY
Hate propaganda on Russian TV channels 24/7:
https://youtu.be/3vm0jgv525I
Hate and lies - that is all putin regime can offer and that is only putin regime paid trolls will bring here - Hate and lies.
They even have ministry of truth, and forbid the commie party.
Oh, the intellectual copy-paste talking.
God, what verbal diarrhea. They in their Yatzi propaganda finally pupated.
The Anti-Crimean Pogrom that Sparked Crimea’s Breakaway
http://rinf.com/alt-news/editorials/the-anti-crimean-pogrom-that-sparked...
p.s. Hey Vlad, where's my check, you big, sexy, bear-wrestling beast? Seriously, I took some Danes to a Providence strip club and things got out of hand. Did you know that you could hunt the most dangerous game - man - on Block Island? True story.
Mr News I'm sorry to say that in general you are pissing into the wind with the majority on this site
you can write and paste anything but it wont change the putin myopics in their mindset that anything
that is on MSM is lies therefore Russia Today, Vinyardsaker and global research and all the other
Moscow sponsored media (alt MSM) must be true. Keep posting its important to balance the views
on this site albeit a thankless endeavour.
Oh yes, I forgot, you're from the Ukraine, where the internet and TV are working in a special way.
Ukrops shit the forum, apparently they can smell the end is near and finally poops.
Sick of these mushrooms are retarded. Let them jump!
ZH as putin regime propaganda asset is boiling again same soup on this same topic regarding events in Ukraine using same ingredients: Nazis, Fascists, coup, etc.
So again here is my reply to that.
Ukraine was a satellite state for putin regime. That means it suffers great deal of same problems as in Russia under putin regime. The main problem is corruption at all levels and deep in every citizen way of thinking. It’s hard to get out if it is so rooted still from USSR times. So what happened here is that there where corrupt border patrol personal and local police officers who smuggled from Russia illegal weapons, alcohol, drugs, etc. As local authorities responsible from stopping such crime where corrupt (now they are fired from their job) didn’t do nothing – those militia took this situation in their own hands. It’s not how it should be done under normal situation but it was only thing they could do to stop coming those drugs and weapons from Russian side. Than when they turned weapons against local authorities who where corrupt – things went out of hand quickly but in the end they gave up them self and laid down arms. Of course putin regime propaganda made a great deal of this and I see that Zero Hedge as putin regime asset continues to invest in this story to twisted as loony as it can get.
I won’t go down to each of the lie in this article – because it would be like anyone saying to you “You are a donkey” and then you have to invest time to prove it you are not a donkey – that’s just idiotic and was of time.
But when you think about Ukraine than know these facts:
1.) Ukraine had free democratic parliament and presidential elections (far right sector got super small minority seat) – that where recognized as legit from whole world including Russia Federation.
2.) Ukraine government signs deals and their representatives shakes hands with all leaders from other countries in the world – including with putin.
3.) People from east Ukraine that are occupied by pro-Russia putin regime terrorists – can and are traveling both from occupied territories to west Ukraine and back – bringing their pensions, products, relatives etc.
Now, if there where Nazis / Fascists in west Ukraine – none of this would be possible.
This is an information warfare – it’s easy to become a victim. Only thing is you can do is to look at facts you can check your self and do your own conclusions. Look at map of DNR & LNR and ask a question how come such a small territory can sustain war for 2 years. Russia 5 day war in Georgia costs 12,5 billion rubles that’s 2,5 billion RUB for one day.
If there is Nazi ideology rising somewhere than it is in Russia under putin regime hate propaganda. After that only Nazi zombies comes out:
https://youtu.be/g5E_qMHTO0U
https://youtu.be/o9gL8FR_vWQ
Speeches just like Hitler had his time. Even if you don’t understand Russian – you will feel that nazi hate energy :
https://youtu.be/AKABlOs6DWY
Hate propaganda on Russian TV channels 24/7:
https://youtu.be/3vm0jgv525I
Hate and lies - that is all putin regime can offer and that is only putin regime paid trolls will bring here - Hate and lies.
Nazis In Ukraine? German TV Shows Ukrainian Soldiers Displaying Nazi Symbols
http://www.ibtimes.com/nazis-ukraine-german-tv-shows-ukrainian-soldiers-...
I guess Putin's paying German tv to troll too.
Don't forget the Latvians! Their Hitlers march annually in Riga in a festive celebration of life under occupation.
http://www.ibtimes.com/hundreds-participate-annual-nazi-veterans-march-l...
You have the "Putin regime" confused with the deadliest regime on earth whose headquarters is in Washington, DC.
There is absolutely no corruption in the USA, or the UK, right?
Why didn't you just say that?
There speaks the Daily Slime.
http://fakti.org/globotpor/quo-vadis-orbi/bivsi-premijer-azarov-na-celu-...
You're still here? You only post on Ukraine articles. Freedom123 was also doing that but then he get kicked for trolling. Your bio btw. is very funny.
Anyway, Ukraine has been out of the news lately. Personally I thought that the whole conflict would flare up again after winter. It did to some extend but not into a full blown conflict. These nazi thugs can't seem to wait though. That would spell the end of Ukraine as we know it. This nazi guy -with the crazed look in his eyes- says that Western European countries mistake nazism with nationalism (I guess he meant the other way around but nazis are not known for their intelligence). He will find out how much Western European countries will drop Ukraine like a brick once he and his nazi thug colleagues would seize control of the country.
newsoutlet, read this and weep:
http://thesaker.is/treason-of-the-century-84-of-ukrainians-would-trust-p...
lol
Ah yes, the miracle of the "right-wing socialist" label because government media is uncomfortable with leftists acting like leftists.
Both Raimondo and this article skillfully avoid the proverbial elephant in the room:
The widly disproportionate Jewish role in both the coup [Nuland - Pyatt {who spent most of his time as our ambassador meetign with Ukraine's Jewish community - less than .2% of the Ukrainian pop.} and at the UN Feltman
http://www.un.org/sg/management/senstaff_details.asp?smgID=164
To a situation where
- President Petro Poroshenko
- Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk
- Chairman of Parliament Volodymyr Groysm
IN A COUNTRY WHERE 0.1 percent follow Jewish religious practices, and ethnic Jews are certainly under 2% of the population
the president, prime minister, and parliament chair are all of largely Jewish background and sympathies
not onlt that - but so were the 2 other contenders mentioned by Nuland in her phone call - Klitchko and Tymeshenko.
most made substantial efforts to hide their Jewish background, but it seems quite clear for all of them, especially Yats and Grosym.
Add to that IDF soldiers at Maidan and there is a heavy Jewish question here
Which no one will talk about
[of course, someone may now suggest they just "happen" to be Jews - or that the Zios/Bankers/Lizards are merely "using Jews" in some way, and Israel and Zionism and Judaism have fuck all to do with it - and hey, maybe thats true for all I know.
It just surely doesnt seem so.]
There was a time some months ago when I had a nagging feeling that jewish people were trying to retake the Ukraine as their historical ancestral homeland. Which for many of them it is since when Khazaria broke to pieces (home of Ashkenazi jews) a lump of it became what we now call the Ukraine: Map of Khazaria
Genes Suggest European Women at Root of Ashkenazi Family Tree
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/10/09/science/ashkenazi-origins-may-be-wi...
The Irish - commonly thought of as "Celts" - have significant pre-Celtic DNA, and share a lot with notonly the Scots and Welsh, but the Basque.
The Irish {and some Welsh and Scots} get Tay Sachs - normally thought of as a "Jewish" {Ashkenazi} disease.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304458604577488842861558400
This isnt because the Irish had a lot of Jewish gene introduction - the Jews came with [and funded] the Anglo-Normans, and later Cromwell... and always remained a parasitic merchant class.
And it isn't because Jews are simply/mostly "Khazars" - a term for a blend of Turkic and Mongolic peoples hemmed in by Islam and Byzantium.
Its because along the matrilineal line the Ashkenazi, like the Gaels -come from an ancient, pre-Indo European population in europe.
That is - there is some Khazar/Caucus, definitely non-Semitic/Canaanite blood in those red haired fair skinned Hasidim who claim a "birthright" while denying it to the most direct descendents of the people who lived there for eons...
But there's also very old, European genes - the link above is manifestly NOT KHAZAR - but it is European and not-Semitic.
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Surprise: Ashkenazi Jews Are Genetically European
http://m.livescience.com/40247-ashkenazi-jews-have-european-genes.html
'Jews a Race' Genetic Theory Comes Under Fierce Attack by DNA Expert
http://forward.com/news/israel/175912/jews-a-race-genetic-theory-comes-u...
{closer to the standard Khazar theory, though he tested people closer to Georgians}
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgians
[not, btw way Gerogian Jews who probably really ARE "real" Jews, or mostly...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_Jews
There's a lot of dancing on pinheads in some of those articles. EG:
Truth is, the Khazarian Emperor mandated that Judaism was to be the state religion in Khazar. When the Empire imploded, the people migrated all over the place, including Russia, Eastern/Western Europe which explains why there are/were so many jews right across Europe etc. A lot went to Spain and when they were kicked out, went on to the Island of Ireland. In later years, many migrated to the US.
The origin of the Ashkenazi may be determined by which era one takes a snapshot of the DNA. If one goes back far enough, one finds that it originated in Khazar but appears to be European in later periods.
The one thing everybody can agree on is that the majority of jews who claim that Israel is their ancestral homeland are Zionist/Ashkenazi jews who have no more connection with Israel than the goy does. IOW it's a false claim.
well as to the first article and paper
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/10/09/science/ashkenazi-origins-may-be-wi...
the point is that matrilineally, it is not Khazar -which is not European for the purposes of these dna studies.
It's European - but - in fact, its very old European - pre indo european....
Irish {and Basque and a few other small groups} are also - edge of europe, largely pre-indo euro with a Celtic overlay, right
its why I mentioned tay sachs....
they arent getting it because they are "really khazars" - they are matrilineally ancient european.
its the ashkenazi that get tay sachs, not the sephardim {to any significant extent anyway}.
The Khazar hypothesis is, from what I can tell, partly right but overstated. Theres no question the royals converted - but its less clear to what extent the peasants did.
The point is that what you have is a mix. there also middle eastern origin.
But the punchline is that no one is more related to the ancient inhabitants of Canaan than the people who were living their pre-zionism - that includes mizrahi jews, and it includes most of the "Arabs"
like the "Celts" the Palestinian Arabs are not "just Arab" - but pre-Arab with an arab overlay. The Irish speak english but are not majority anglo-saxon dna wise.
The "Arabs" of Libya are heavily Berber/Moor with an Arba overlay.
Anyone claiming ashkenazi jews "are khazars" simply doesnt undertsand the genetic studies done.
Thats part of the explanation - but not all of it - and the matrilineal side is NOT KHAZAR!
I'm not aware of any definitive study and there's a lot of people who interpret the results in different ways to suit their own agendas. I find it difficuilt to believe that the 13th tribe originated from "Europe" (what is Europe?). Their human characteristics alone indicate they originated from the Turkics who migrated to Khazar centuries ago.
"The Khazar hypothesis is, from what I can tell, partly right but overstated. Theres no question the royals converted - but its less clear to what extent the peasants did."
It might be overstated, but doesn't that prove the point about how difficult it is to drill down into the origins and how easy it is for multiple interpretations of evidence? Given that the Khazar Emperor mandated judaism as the state religion at a time when Khazar was riding high on the trade routes probably indicates that the people went along with it.
“Israel has not changed for the worse, it’s always been bad”
http://www.redressonline.com/2015/08/israel-has-not-changed-for-the-wors...
Is Yat the Rat "ethnicaly" Jewish b/c I understand he is actually a Scientologist?
believe so. the deal is, though that in ukraine the ricght sektor types use it as an accusation so I wasnt sure about Porky - but him too apparently.
Ukraine’s leadership team now – Prime Minister Yats, President Petro Poroshenko, and Speaker Groysman – are all Jewish…
http://investmentwatchblog.com/ukraines-leadership-team-now-prime-minist...
Given the very small amount of Jews in Ukraine, given the jewish oligarchs, IDF vets, and Kagan-Nuland's Zionism... the jewishness of the Kiev putsch should be a big aspect of th estory.
But "Jewish Privilege" means Jewish power is never discussed.
it is, if you will, verboden.
Chocula's father's name is Walzman. Porky took his wife's maiden name too obsucre his heritage
The Maidan 2.0 already started in Kiev last week.
Interesting development was also that the levy imposed on Poroshenko's candy factories in Russia was dropped just after Ukrainian court dropped charges of illegal landing of Russian airliners in Crimea. Things are happening.
Here is a quote from my yesterday's comment of Ukraine for those who missed it.
For more latest info on Ukraine MH17 and rebellion in other parts of the country and interesting analysis of situation go to:
https://contrarianopinion.wordpress.com/ukrainian-war-update/
For background on Ukraine:
https://contrarianopinion.wordpress.com/2015/01/18/ukraine-no-country-fo...
It had to happen, but you can hear the gritted teeth..
Ukraine is holding talks with the self-proclaimed Lugansk People's Republic to buy coal, the republic's prime minister Gennadiy Tsypkalov told journalists on Sunday.
The country faces a heating crisis as it lacks the amount of coal needed to last the winter, according to Ukraine's prime minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk. The country's energy minister Volodymyr Demchyshyn told Ukrainian television on Saturday that Ukraine would buy coal from "problematic directions." "The thing is that they are today holding talks for purchases. This actually exists. But for now Ukraine is not ready to recognize us as a business partner. We are ready and holding talks on this subject," Tsypkalov said. Tsypkalov did not make clear the nature of the talks.
Shipments from coal-rich Donbass largely ceased as a result of Ukraine's military conflict with independence-seeking local militias. The head of Ukraine's national electric utility Ukrenergo said on Friday that it may begin electricity shut-offs as long as 2.5 hours at a time if the country is unable to maintain adequate coal reserves.
Ukraine refused to continue buying natural gas from Russia in July, instead opting to buy "reverse" flow natural gas from neighboring EU countries at a smaller volume.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150802/1025326278.html#ixzz3hgG74agd
Will there be cookies?
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission..
"No honor amongst Zion's thieves."
Regarding the earlier WSJ BS story about Putin selling out Syria:
Here is a conflicting story:
If Putin really said this to that piece of shit erdogan then I am an even bigger Putin fan. The Turkish people hate Erdogan.
http://awdnews.com/top-news/russian-president-to-turkish-ambassador-tell...
Russian president to Turkish ambassador: "tell your dictator President he can go to hell along with his ISIS terrorists, I will make Syria a 'Big Stalingrad' for him!"
Another conflicting story along those same lines:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/russian-brokered-high-level-syria-saudi-ara...
It seems that Putin recently convinced Saudi and Syrian oficials to meet in Riyadh. Assad isn't going away anytime soon.
The ongoing situation in Ukraine is a class act from the Russian perspective.
Every month that goes by some us on here probably look with admiration at the unfolding strategy being deployed by Moscow (I intentionally do not credit Putin) to delay as long as possible any face to face stand-off with the US enabling them to gain strength. The window of opportunity for the US to put one over on Russia is closing fast. Just look at these Russian areas:
- military production has really come on stream in the last 18 months, there are regular deliveries of new, and in many cases updated, missiles, ships, subs, aircraft and vehicles. In addition, serious changes are occuring in the structure of their military, both on the Western and Eastern fronts. The days of a demoralised, ex-USSR, military are long gone along with the heavy conscript army.
- financially they have survived the oil price war and the sanctions. It has hurt and is hurting but the impact is mainly on the public and they, as we know, are solidly behind Putin. They even, together with the Chinese, now have an alternative to SWIFT, which was a real weak spot. As insurance they are still exchanging dollars for gold every month. This is no longer an economy on which the plug can easily be pulled.
- on the oil/gas front they will be facing two ways with new pipes to Germany and China (TurkStream is just to poke Brussels) and a huge LPG plant just contracted in the East.
- politically they have powered ahead, in conjunction with their best mates in Beijing (they thank DC for bringing them closer together), rounding up all kinds of countries into new alliances.
- US financial strength continues to morph towards mirage status (don't mention the French helicopter carriers).
Whilst Ukraine, Syria, even the South China Sea, keep bubbling along demanding attention the strategic goal is slipping away.
Meanwhile, China is heavily involved in the Ukraine fire sale, using some of their huge stockpile of US$ to make huge land deals (building massive amounts of cheap housing, probably with big displacement of local contractors) and buy so much grain (at huge discounts) that Ukraine has overtaken the US as their biggest supplier by volume. Must make the Mid-West voters real happy. Law of Unintended Consequences again.
Kiev will struggle to get enough food, gas or coal this winter and all the West seems able to do is refinance existing loans (the IMF looking after its mates, like in Greece) and utter comforting words. Moscow is just going to sit back and watch Ukraine consume itself. If Kiev decides to use the well worn tactic of having a war to distract the population, any advance will probably go nowhere as a hell-storm hits. When hundreds of shells and/or missiles decend out of the sky it can be difficult to identify what they are or how far they came from, know what I mean.
The Right Sector are well aware of this, so will be well away from the action, waiting to pounce in Kiev.
115 raw videos that give you a real perspective on the front line situation in Ukraine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_L0mzW4dIQ&list=PLw613M86o5o5zqF6WJR8zu...
Every last one is worth watching!
Sure they are./ sarc off. Vice News is propaganda for trendies. More BS from the USSA state department.
Vice News used to be good. Their reporting on Ukraine took a turn for the worse after Simon Ostrovsky was allegedly detained and roughed up by one of the DPR militias. That was about the same time that Rupert Murdoch bought a minority stake in the business.
After Vice scored the behind the scenes footage and interviews with ISIS, you knew what the real game was and Vice News was just another zio-propaganda outlet for a younger audience.
"In short, it almost never ends well ..."
Baloney, everything worked out well ... the US flew all of the gold out of the Ukraine the day after the revolution.
Meanwhile, survey says:
http://thesaker.is/treason-of-the-century-84-of-ukrainians-would-trust-p...
Source http://peremogi.livejournal.com/10968040.html
What politician would you trust to run your country?
Yet another informational tragedy in Ukraine. It started like nothing unusual: the patriotic site “Week.ua”(“??????.ua“) organized a vote. Respondents were asked to answer one question: which politician would you trust to run your country?
[Original survey here: http://nedelya-ua.com/content/kakomu-politiku-vy-doverili-upravlenie-svoey-stranoy]
41,664 respondents voted. The result virtually killed the organizers: landslide victory of Russian President Vladimir Putin!
This is treason! Let’s look at the results:
...hang on...hang on...let me find our Latvian friend "NEWSOUTLET" and show this to him.
I Fucking Hate NAZI's! NeoCons are NAZI's! There are a bunch of NeoCons in Congress. Get It?