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For Commodities, It's 2008 All Over Again

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18 of the 22 components in the Bloomberg Commodity Index have dropped at least 20% from recent closing highs, meeting the common definition of a bear market.

 

As Bloomberg details, that’s the same number as at the end of October 2008, when deepening financial turmoil sent global markets into a swoon.

Dear Commodity Investors - Welcome back to 2008!!

 

Charts: Bloomberg

 

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Wed, 08/05/2015 - 19:02 | 6395291 max2205
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We don't need no stinking commodities 

Wed, 08/05/2015 - 19:11 | 6395341 Hype Alert
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But, but but, it's different this time.

Wed, 08/05/2015 - 19:07 | 6395322 Yen Cross
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When faith(fiat) is questioned, tangible assets are gold.

 Where's Larry Fink?

Wed, 08/05/2015 - 19:10 | 6395334 Chuck Knoblauch
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Bull market in commodities in the East.

They like gold and silver.

Wed, 08/05/2015 - 19:20 | 6395368 Bay of Pigs
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Gold sales are surging at the US Mint right now too.

Wed, 08/05/2015 - 19:12 | 6395351 prodigious_idea
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Maybe worse.  The strength of the USD is crushing commodities.  Drop the Euro.USD pairing onto a gold chart.

Wed, 08/05/2015 - 19:20 | 6395370 Yen Cross
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 The export of inflation from Asian and European Countries is causing an artificial rebalancing of the $USDX BASKET OF CURRENCIES.

   Unless you employ a personal shopper, the costs of virtually EVERYTHING cotinues to rise.

  The Fed. IS NOT reducing it's balance sheeet. The Fed has one chance at normalization.

   The Fed. can't raise rates, but they can cut interest on excess reserves held OIS by banks.

 That will force lending, (qualified) and normalize the equity markets.

Wed, 08/05/2015 - 19:51 | 6395467 RMolineaux
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Good point.  But is it not possible that if the Fed cuts the interest rate it pays on commercial banks' excess reserves, that the latter will join the rest of investors in seeking yield at any price and further inflate the stock market ?

Wed, 08/05/2015 - 20:29 | 6395614 JamaicaJim
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Problem is Yen, "normalization" - these days, would be considered damn near radical.

This cat and mouse Kabuki that Yellen and the girls are doing is akin to listening to a tied up soon to be dead guy diatribing his own last rites....

 

Wed, 08/05/2015 - 19:30 | 6395401 GubbermintWorker
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I'm stocking up on coffee and sugar!

 

Wed, 08/05/2015 - 19:41 | 6395439 netpounder
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Are we still addicted to oil mr. Bush?

Wed, 08/05/2015 - 19:45 | 6395447 RMolineaux
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The commodities index is a heterogenious jumble of raw materials that respond to different economic forces.  Farm commodities depend on the weather, base metals depend on industrial activity, the auto market and housing.  Precious metsls depend on government manipulation and energy depends on the policy vagaries of OPEC, Russia and the US.  It is difficult to see how this index serves any useful purpose for economic analysis.

Wed, 08/05/2015 - 19:59 | 6395487 Wild Theories
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green arrowed

 

not to mention it doesn't even say when that previous"bull peak" was, bloomberg is for retards

Wed, 08/05/2015 - 20:05 | 6395510 sun tzu
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Except for precious metals, they all depend on the willingness and ability of businesses and consumers to buy more. Everyone is broke and businesses see no growth opportunities

Wed, 08/05/2015 - 19:53 | 6395471 alexcojones
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How come the price of pussy never seems to go down?

I mean, uh, cat food ....

Wed, 08/05/2015 - 19:55 | 6395476 alexcojones
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Where is Bart Chilton when ya need him?

Here in Alaska the price of sockeye/ red salmon has gone from $1.25 per lb last year to .50 this year. With NO drop in RETAIL price at the supermarket from my research.

Fuckers

Wed, 08/05/2015 - 19:58 | 6395490 Pomkiwi
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Here in NZ we are watching the world dairy prices as this is our major export. The price for milk powder, for example, has dropped from over US$5000 to US$1535 per metric ton in the last year. Let's hope the farmers put aside a financial buffer during the boom years - oh wait.

Wed, 08/05/2015 - 21:13 | 6395764 RMolineaux
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I've noticed the cataclismic drop in milk powder prices also.  If you check the date of the latest drop-off, I believe you will find that it coincides with the imposition of the Russian counter-sanctions.  I believe you Kiwis should tell your government to stop the bullmanure and get yourselves off the US-inspired sanctions against Russia.

Wed, 08/05/2015 - 21:45 | 6395841 Fahque Imuhnutjahb
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Don't fret for the farmers, some "angel investor" should wing it there to buy them out, just before the prices miraculously rebound.

They can keep their jobs, just not their farms.

Wed, 08/05/2015 - 23:01 | 6396072 Mentaliusanything
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I didn't believe you, so I checked 4th Feb 2014 $5005 ---- Today $1590, Holy Crap Batman, so even adjusting for the exchange rate differential this is not going to end well. Good thing grass is plentiful in UnZUd

RENCas is the only bright light in the milk shed

Wed, 08/05/2015 - 20:11 | 6395543 H H Henry P P P...
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Commodities are being manipulated to hide the inflation.  Same with gold.

Wed, 08/05/2015 - 20:31 | 6395619 seek
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Almost there -- the dollar is being manipulated to hide inflation. At the expense of fucking over the rest of the world.

When it comes home to roost, oh man will there be a shitshow.

Wed, 08/05/2015 - 21:23 | 6395786 FreedomGuy
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What peak did they use, 2007-8?

I am sure global warming will drive up the price of fuel as people need more air condiitoning each summer.

Sun, 08/09/2015 - 16:40 | 6407584 RMolineaux
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And less heat in the winter.

Wed, 08/05/2015 - 21:38 | 6395827 Fahque Imuhnutjahb
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Well if it's any consulation, at least the commodities down draft will translate into cheaper finished goods, because the

corporations will pass all the savings on raw materials on to the consumer, rather than pocketing the differential to

boost sagginging margins.

 

Thu, 08/06/2015 - 01:27 | 6396337 Pomkiwi
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Good point Rmol but it is a world price and I see in the news that UK dairy farmers are protesting at supermarkets. Lol, we don't use the S word. Our reserve bank cited 'russian issues' and chinese overstocking as the cause of the price plunge, Our farmers are used to commodity surfing, with land that once was sheep grazing. going to wheat and then to irrigated dairy production. The next wave will probably be horticulture to cash in on Cali's demise if we can get access to US markets through tpp. Meantime there has been a surge in chinese purchase of dairy farms which requires and receives overseas investment commission approval.

Thu, 08/06/2015 - 02:00 | 6396359 TheRicker
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All this bullshit since 2008 has been for the elites and not the little guy i.e. you and me. If it had been about the small invester the powers that be would have let the crash happen and we would be well off and better by now. These greedy bastards, however, decided, that since they cannot stop the crash they would postpone until they would get their maximum profits and leave the now horrific pain for the masses to endure. We the people will reap the whirlwind when if the morons at the top would have had the balls in '08 to man up none of this would be neccessary. Just my take on it.

Thu, 08/06/2015 - 06:45 | 6396516 gianakt
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If banksters really want inflation they need to stop supressing the metals markets and let them rise, this is the only action that will save and get all markets to rise parabolically for the final faze of the mania!!!!

Thu, 08/06/2015 - 06:45 | 6396517 gianakt
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If banksters really want inflation they need to stop supressing the metals markets and let them rise, this is the only action that will save and get all markets to rise parabolically for the final faze of the mania!!!!

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