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Trump May Be Soaring In The Polls, But The Bookies Aren't So Sure
At 1000-to-1, Kim Kardashian is an outsider in the race to be the next US President but perhaps most notable in the odds that bookies are willing to offer is the 7th place that Donald Trump ranks (at 18-to-1 or just a 5% probability of winning), below GOP rivals such as Jeb Bush (23% probabiity) and Marco Rubio (11% probability). Trump even ranks below Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden according to where the money is being bet! Of course, Hillary remains the odds-on favorite at 10/11 (or 52% probability).
Despite Ranking in Pole Poll Position among GOP candidates, bookies remain unimpressed...
So if - as Trump always explains - you put your money where your mouth is, the bookies appear far less exuberant about Trumps #1 GOP poll position
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Trump is not the NSA's choice. Jeb is. NSA alwayss gets its man into the Oval Office.
Obama's first job out of college was working for a CIA-front company. He came preapproved by the NSA.
Probability of Hildabeast being an Insufferable Cunt ------ 100%
No electoral love for Caitlyn Jenner?
But he (she? it?) is so brave. He (she? it?) got an award!
it
I don't think that the D-Team will allow anyone but Hillary to win the nomination. Hillary wins the election? Ugh.
To stop the rot, only Rand Paul and Scott Walker have a realistic chance of winning and making a (small) difference.
Yeah, sure. But their biggest impediment isn't Hildabeast...it's the Ruling Class E-GOP asshats who will rather die than see a non-establishment type steal their nomination. So, they'll either be sunk before the convention or so weakened after it that even if they get the nomination it will be easy pickings in the general.
Think beyond elections, act accordingly.
Are you implying that Trump is some how anti-establishment? lol. He IS the establishment! You don't get to be a billionaire by being a paytriot living out in the woods with a mosin nagant and a can of beans in your trailer with your little garden.
Trump is just telling the sheeple what they want to hear. It's all rhetoric. At the end of the day, he's a stooge for Israel, so that should tell you all you need to know about him.
22/1 via BWIN and StanJames.
I would find it very hard to vote for anyone who has his dick cut off so he can justify dressing in drag.
But, if he did win, do you think the press would say he was the first 'woman' president?
Not that I know...
But it was my understanding he kept Little Bruce...so he is not really a she, perhaps an it...but if you still have a dick and like chicks...that doesn't make you a lesbo...
And anybody even seriously considering voting...for this...
Probability you're going to stop it: < 10%
How could Schwarzeneggar be 150-1?
He wasn't born in the USA..... oh wait...
I hope these aren't the same bookies that prematurely paid out on the bet that the Greeks were going to vote "Yes"
The bookies are probably a lot closer than the talking heads, but its way too early in the game to be placing bets. Trump's big problem in endurance, he has a bad tendency to get bored or distracted. This circus is really going to be strange this time around.....
"The bookies are probably a lot closer than the talking heads..."
Damn straight. Watch the money flows, money talks and bullshit walks.
of course the bookies aren't buying the trump. complete ass born with money stuffed in his mouth. his claim to fame is imigration and insulting mexicans? yep, they are the cause of all our problems.........couldn't possibly be bankers stealing everyone blind with uncontrolled greed no way. wonder what the bookies' odds are that the real estate tycoon who's very life blood is bank loans will even give them an honorable mention!!!!!!
Bookies are using their own money, so it's a lot more honest.....
The bookies are probably a lot closer than the talking heads,
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The bookies know the (s)election is a fuggin rigged joke
FTFY
Always go with the bookies. The odds can change though since there's time left so there is hope for that.
Correct, the establishment will elect who they want to be the next puppet.
These early polls are the actual election because it's the only way people get a real vote.
Trump is popular right now because he's saying how fucked up things are, and not babbling politically correct platitudes until he is out of breath like most candidates.
And what was the CIA-front company, or are you just making this up?
Arnold Schwarzenegger President of the USA? Well I guess it wouldn't be the first time a foreign born person was elected president.
He's australian, so he's bonza.
He's Austrian, Winston.
Actually has a four year degree from the University of Wisconsin - Superior in 1979. He got a bachelor's degree in international marketing of fitness and business administration.
Read more: http://host.madison.com/news/local/education/campus_connection/campus-connection-superior-list-of-famous-alumni/article_d8646d66-ce45-11de-ba14-001cc4c03286.html#ixzz3hxJfy9e4
Did I really need the s/. ?
Guess so.
Weak sarcasm even if you omitted it.
Most Amercans couldn't tell the difference.The sarcasm, or the austalian vs, austrian.
Most think I'm australian.
Me? I think you're OK.
Think Grapes of Wrath.
put another shrimp on the barbie! facepalm
How's he even eligible to run?
The bookies do not understand that Trump's showing in the polls represents the peoples' complete rejection of the current government.
People and voting is a great magic trick. You think electronic voting machines would allow such a thing?
The State Department's regulations in 7FAM speak of doubts as to the eligibility of those born outside of the US. Also, in August of 2013 the State Dept. quietly slipped in an edict that those naturalized by 8 US Code 1401 "are not considered naturalized", even though 8 US Code 1401 was enacted pursuant to the Constitutional power of Congress to enact uniform rules of naturalization. The State Dept. "reasons" that since "naturalization" means "the conference of citizenship AFTER BIRTH by any means whatsoever" that those naturalized at birth cannot be "naturalized". This is a distinction without a difference, since citizenship at birth means "after birth". Those children are not naturalized in the womb or in the birth canal, they are naturalized by the statute itself (any means whatsoever) AFTER BIRTH occurs (it is like debating the meaning of "is"). Notice the date that the "not citizens by Naturalization was enacted, 8/19/2013/.
They have been preparing for the candidacy of Cruz, Rubio and Jindal in order to support the eligibility of Obama.
7 FAM 1131.6-2 Eligibility for Presidency
(TL:CON-68; 04-01-1998)
a. It has never been determined definitively by a court whether a person who
acquired U.S. citizenship by birth abroad to U.S. citizens is a natural-born
citizen within the meaning of Article II of the Constitution and, therefore,
UNCLASSIFIED (U)
U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual Volume 7
Consular Affairs
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eligible for the Presidency.
b. Section 1, Article II, of the Constitution states, in relevant part that “No Person
except a natural born Citizen...shall be eligible for the Office of President.”
c. The Constitution does not define "natural born". The “Act to establish an
Uniform Rule of Naturalization”, enacted March 26, 1790, (1 Stat. 103,104)
provided that, “...the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born
... out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born
citizens: Provided that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons
whose fathers have never been resident in the United States.”
d. This statute is no longer operative, however, and its formula is not included in
modern nationality statutes. In any event, the fact that someone is a natural
born citizen pursuant to a statute does not necessarily imply that he or she is
such a citizen for Constitutional purposes.
7 FAM 1131.6-3 Not Citizens by “Naturalization”
(CT:CON-474; 08-19-2013)
Section 101(a)(23) INA (8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(23)) provides that the term
"naturalization" means "the conferring of nationality of a state upon a person after
birth, by any means whatsoever." Persons who acquire U.S. citizenship at birth by
birth abroad to a U.S. citizen parent or parents who meet the applicable statutory
transmission requirements are not considered citizens by naturalization.
Obama III 75% probability
Rick Perry tied with John Edwards. Wow.
I say we give The Don a chance. We already know about Hillary; she loves war and is in the pockets of the MIC; she is a shill for corporate Wall Street and Bankers and she is a major league FSA, community organizer, Safe Zone, Section 8 advocate.
Bush is, well, another Bush who will wan tmore war and MIC.
The Don is a relative unknown but we know for sure he has not been bought off so far by the MIC, Wall Street or the FSA.
You sure about not being paid off?
How much corporate debt does the Don have ?
I deal with billionaire all year,you'd be surprised at their vulnerabilities.
Now if he was a net trillionaire, I would believe it.
They need a hero. America loves a hero. It is why they remake over and over and over and over and over again those mind numbing moronic comic films.
There is no need to lie over the internet, Churchill.
It's The Don all the way for me. I can't stand Billary and Bush will be simply another Bush the only difference being this one may know how to spell.
The way I see it, Hillary would drive the wing nuts over the edge. Eight years of Oshitbag have them tetteering on the edge of losing it and seeing the Hilcunt as CnC would push them over the edge. Plus one for the HIlcunt.
With Jeb, much like George the Lesser, you get what you vote for. Jeb is, was, and always will be for the MIC, Big Corp, Big Ag, Big Pharma, police state, more war. At least he's up front and honest about where he stands. Plus one for the Jebster.
The Donald. The penultimate "Ulgly American". He personifies greed and hubris. He's an obnoxious boor. Wingnuts idolize him. At this point I'd say plus two for "The Don", but then again, I'm ready to bring the house down and that should do it.
But it's up to you folks really, I don't vote.
847328_3527 Bush is, well, another Bush who will wan tmore war and MIC.
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They all eventually want more war. That is why power needs to taken away from Washington DC. I don't care if you put the most libertarian non interventalist in there.
If you told me 3 years ago this asshole would be leading the polls in anything north of being dogcatcher I would have packed it up and left. Yet, here we are.
No shit, just because people are smoothing his shit over, this is Donal Trump for crying out loud.
We have sunk into the deep end of the septic field. Can't be long now till someone, or something, kicks over the first domino.
So you want Hillary? Anyone but Hillary for sure imo.
No, I don't want that lying sack of shit, either.
The lesser of two evils, however, is still evil.
The money is coming in for The Undertaker to beat Brock Lesnar at the WWE Summerslam.
http://www.oddschecker.com/tv/wwe/wwe-summerslam/brock-lesnar-v-the-unde...
DUH! It's so hard to pick a winner because it might just be fake!
Still have my money on Diebold Jeb. In order to keep the left/right meme going they need a conservative in office next, the great destroyer has killed about as many people in stealth as he can without completely blowing the cover of the left "peacenik" party. War is brewing.
Hillary will completely implode, vomit pea soup and float to the ceiling either before getting into office or shortly after. If she got into office they would probably have to do her like they did the Queens sister.
Correction: her cousins. So much murder, institutionalization and inbreeding in the family it becomes hard to keep track.
The Bush's were only Conservative in the mind of leftwingnuts.
Abraham Lincoln 75/1
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/16/donald-trump-quits-2012-r_n_862...
Count on it.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/pope-francis-proves-bookies-wrong-...
Don't cry for the bookies, Argentina — Jorge Cardinal Bergoglio’s ascension to the papacy created a holy payday for the bettors who chose the extreme long shot, but doesn’t effect the oddsmakers, who take their cut off the top.
Bergoglio was given 33-1 odds on the website of the Irish bookmaker Paddy Power, and was 25-1 on William Hill’s site.
http://fortune.com/2015/07/06/paddy-power-greece/
A betting site was so confident Greek voters would say “yes” it paid out by mistake. Meanwhile, it has new odds on who could leave the euro.
The online bookmaker Paddy Power paid out thousands of euros to gamblers who incorrectly predicted that Greeks would vote in favor of proposed austerity measures in Sunday’s referendum. The Irish betting site was so confident of a yes vote that it began the payouts early – a mistake that proved costly after the Greeks issued aresounding 61 percent “no” to the austerity terms.
“Paddy Power is feeling a little red faced this morning after calling the Greek referendum wildly wrong … [We] got a little overexcited,” the oddsmaker said in an email to Bloomberg, which reported the story, adding that it “paid out five figures” on July 1.
If you think Donald Trump is going to be the next President then you need to questionn your grasp of reality.
Oh fuck off with the Clinton thing, shes unelectable.
But that Bengahizi bitch is appointable
But, unfortunately, totally selectable.
One thing about bookies...they usually know all the other bagmen, so...
So was O HO MO....yet here we are.
I am going to take some of that fucking action. Trump can do it.
Trump is the horses ass Clown Show Act before the main event high wire act starts. The only thing missing in Trump's act is the red nose.
May be true but DC in itself is one big fucken ass clown show. So he would git right in...
So, what he lacks in integrity he makes up for with entertainment value?
Talk about bread and circuses.
trump's biggest problem with this particular poll is the 3 repubs in-front of him. IF he wins the nomination, he most likely shoots alot higher. he very well might get destroyed by her in a general election because our country is so fucking stupid. if the people who look at bill clinton as their savior actually realized what NAFTA meant to manufacturing and how trump MIGHT want to reverse it + piss on the TPP, they would ALL vote for trump and he would win in a landslide. unfortunately, people hear "free shit" and just can't help themselves. like i said, stupid country we live in.
I feel like I'm living in the Matrix. VIX at all time lows but the economy is in depression and has been for 8 years, the largest wealth gap in history but the poor love Obama, and Donald Trump is running for POTUS vs Hillary Clinton. Oh, and there is still a Bush in the mix.
My god people are stupid.
Wheres the line for Obamas 3rd term? You know the O man wants to keep on free golfin around the world and the Moochster "wife" wants to keep them vacations going
Obama wants the hell out of Dodge as much as BushCo did . You've got your two term immortality so to hell with having to deal with it anymore.
Every one loves a dark horse cadidate, especially Kim Kardashian.
Where are the votes for the Republican Primary…are they these bookies or are they members of the Senate? NO, the voters are the people. And at the moment they seem to be betting on Trump. Is it possible that the bookies once again are picking the ruling establishment, believing it can use media to get Hillary or Bush elected and stop Trump?
Or has Trump awakened America’s sleeping rulers, the disenfranchised voters? If so, it is far too soon to predict this outcome.
The Senate’s position on the Planned Parenthood funding, for example, goes along with the cartel rulers. As such, it was unable to muster the votes to shut down Planned Parenthood’s federal subsidy. On the other hand, speaking of shutdown, Donald Trump outlined his position alongside that of the American people: Defund Planned Parenthood or shut down the government!
And of all the comments on the PP videos and its activity, none have peeled away the disgusting barbarism like George Will. He calls Planned Parenthood activity, “federally subsidized meat markets – your tax dollars at work.”
Says Will: “The abortion industry’s premise is: At no point in the gestation of a human infant does this living being have a trace of personhood that must be respected. Never does it have a moral standing superior to a tumor or a hamburger in the mother’s stomach. ..
“In partial-birth abortion, a near-term baby is pulled by the legs almost out of the birth canal, until the base of the skull is exposed so the abortionist can suck out its contents. During Senate debates on this procedure, three Democrats were asked: Suppose a baby’s head slips out of the birth canal — the baby is born — before the abortionist can kill it. Does the baby then have a right to live? Two of the Democrats refused to answer. The third said the baby acquires a right to life when it leaves the hospital. …
“We are wallowing in this moral swamp because the Supreme Court accelerated the desensitization of the nation by using words and categories about abortion the way infants use knives and forks — with gusto, but sloppily. Because Planned Parenthood’s snout is deep in the federal trough, decent taxpayers find themselves complicit in the organization’s vileness. What kind of a government disdains the deepest convictions of citizens by forcing them to finance what they see in videos — Planned Parenthood operatives chattering about bloody human fragments? ‘Taxes,’ said Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr., ‘are what we pay for civilized society.’ Today they finance barbarism.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-barbarity-of-a-nation/2015/07/31/344f5140-36eb-11e5-9739-17
Guessing you can never become pregnant. Or be looking at having your 5th child.
Dear Killer,
It's a puzzle to me how a person can be born and grow up in this country and, like our polilticians, look at another innocent human being and kill it. It would help me if you explain how you do it, especially if you are the mother. Planned Parenthood says it is always a difficult decision for a woman to have an abortion. One can imagine that it is difficult to imagine tiny arms and legs and face and a potential and then decide to "suck out the contents of its skull."
If Trump starts dropping in the polls I bet he quits.
you heard me
SHUT UP
A Clinton clan pres. will just affirm the hollow facade democracy in the US has become. Not much better here in Europe to be fair. Germany's opposition party to Merkl (SPD) are not even keen on appointing a next candidate. They're happy with her. God knows why. How many terms will it be for her? Can't even remember. Too many.
France has Sarko knocking on the door again. Who the fuck needs him again? 80/70 mill people repectively and they come up with the same assholes? What. The. Fuck.
Democracy is so 20th century.
The Left better hope and pray that Hillary is not elected because if she is, they will see a division against them like they've never seen before. No longer will Americans trust that they can work with elected officials because those officials, and Hillary will be the proof, absolutely do not represent them. It will be a signal for millions to instantly turn against their government in all its forms. The Left will find that in a civil war its support will be mighty thin. And the reason for that is that most thinking, honest people want a future for themselves and their family that will include justice and freedom and opportunity. They will not be deceived that Hillary Clinton is their friend.
What are the odds on trump committing suicide by nail gun if he doesn't drop out and continues to do well amongst voters?
Compare the Founders with those on the board above. Behold the laws of thermodynamics.
100% probability I won't be voting.
I love pissing away money so I'm betting on AHNOLD... who, if memory serves, is ineligible to be President? Seriously, who's betting on him?
Odds are interesting but sometimes way off. Who could have bet that Horseface would ever be chosen lead the State Dept?
It will be Cruz vs O'Malley.
Cruz voted for the TPP so he is already bought. I don't see him winning, but he could be the Veep candidate.
Arnold isn't even qualified to be President, which means whoever is coming up with these numbers is a moron.
Hillary means secession. Rejoice.
but but but
Hillary also means BILL
I think it is not just the bikies that are unsure. I doubt bookies are offering fixrd odds on this bet. They are adjusting the ods according to bets placed.
When I put some money on Trump to win the presidency about 10 days ago he was 34:1 (in Australia). The next day he was 26:1. He is now 17:1. Odds change, they aren't a statement of what will happen.
Does anyone now believe Clinton has a 52% chance of winning the presidency?